Conor

I think there'd be a probably bigger audience for that than there is for our uh C plus plus content here.

Bryce

Speaking of which, rambling like C plus plus content. The closest we've got to C content is the Python script that you're currently running.

Conor

Welcome to ADSP the podcast, episode 66, recorded on February 5th, 2022. My name is Connor, and today with my co-host Bryce, we quickly solve a Wordle in record time and then hop into some exciting C news. Also, find out which co-host guest got COVID.

Bryce

Alright, you ready? You ready for the first time?

Conor

Here we go, folks. So this is this is the Wordle for February 5th, 2022.

Bryce

So so do we want to try do we want to try I rate instead of a rose?

Conor

I don't really know. I want to do a rose.

Bryce

We are traditionalists here. We are traditionalists in the hardcore wordle school.

Conor

You ready?

Bryce

Yeah. Ooh, we might get it in two.

Conor

We might get it in two. I already have a decent guess. But let's see if we can come up with the same guess individually. Actually, I've got two guesses now.

Bryce

Well let's see. I want probably. Hang on. Let me think.

Conor

I probably So actually we we're not even explaining. Jesus, we're terrible podcast hosts. Uh we have not explained what happened. So we guessed a rose and we got the A and the O, the first letter and the third letter, both green, both in the correct position. So it's gonna be A blank O blank blank.

Bryce

I mean I think I want like an A L O word.

Conor

One of my words is like that.

Bryce

Yeah. And what would the rest be you definitely know one of them. Do I?

Conor

Yeah. It has a the next letter is an N.

Bryce

Oh uh I'm saying a long, but that doesn't work. An N?

Conor

Yeah, what goes after an N.

Bryce

I don't know, what is it?

Conor

A long.

Bryce

A long, yeah.

Conor

However, let's not guess that yet, because I have another guess that is a void.

Bryce

I feel like that's riskier.

Conor

It is riskier, but the question is, is like we're going for this in two. We've got we've got solid info here. My guess is that the list of words is like less than 10. We've got a really good shot of getting it here.

Bryce

Well, we should think of uh yeah.

Conor

Um And the thing is, is although avoid is lower, like axiom, except the I would be the third letter there.

Bryce

So so I guess the appeal of void is we get um I is higher frequency than L and is a vowel, and we get I gu yeah, I guess that's really you get I and then T. Agony.

Conor

Agony is another word. So here's the thing is we should just take a couple minutes to come up with words that fit this pattern, and then choose the one that overlap the most. So agony and a long both share an N and a G, which makes abit. Is that a word? A B O T T. I'm not actually sure if that's in a uh That's a bad guess. That's a terrible guess, though, because it's got two T's.

Bryce

I feel like A-X-O-What about ATO words? Like a tone? No, no, no, E, but um epoxy?

Conor

I think that's a word. Although I'm my guess is that's not a valid wordal word. But that also that's the thing, is I'm guessing there's a few that end in Y.

Bryce

No, I I think epoxy's gotta be a valid one. Yeah, yeah, like like Anganine, so. Um, but what about the ATOs? Is there any any any ATO?

Conor

A loft?

Bryce

That has a T and an L. I like that one. What about what about um what about are there are there any A question mark OU question mark words?

Conor

Allowed? Yeah, good one.

Bryce

Yeah, yeah, allowed. That's a good one. Um About. About, yeah.

Conor

I don't know how to say it as a Canadian, but so I think we actually have a decent number of guesses here. So what's the most common letters? L shows up.

Bryce

I L T. Um, we only got I in one of these, but we have L T in a bunch. Oh no, we only have L T and Loft.

Conor

Well, L shows up three times, T shows up twice. Um, so I think it has to be one of the L words.

Bryce

Yeah, yeah.

Conor

Um I feel like allowed.

Bryce

I mean, allowed is probably better than a loft because the F if is, I think, unlikely. Or the F doesn't appear in any others, whereas for allowed it does appear in other words. You know what? You know, here's another here's another reason why a loud is nice, is because I guess like like it the D might be in place if it's yeah.

Conor

Yeah, let's do a loud. I like it.

Bryce

Yeah, let's do allowed. Okay. Alright. Oh brutal!

Conor

No.

Bryce

So a loft?

Conor

So let the listener know.

Bryce

It could be a loft or it could be a long.

Conor

Let the listener know, though.

Bryce

Oh, sorry. We we did aloud. We got um a we got we got the L in place, so we know it's a word that starts with A L O.

Conor

Between a loft and a long, I would guess, you know it's gonna be so sad if it was a long. Like my first my first guess was actually the two. But uh a loft is less likely to be a wordle word, in my opinion. A long is definitely a word alord.

Bryce

Should we do it?

Conor

Yeah, I say we just go with a long.

Bryce

Okay. Please, please don't do this to us, Wordle. Oh god! So we once again we tried a long and we missed on the N and the G. We need we need to think about whether there's any other words that are not like aloft, but cause it's gonna be embarrassing.

Conor

Nah, I'd say we just go for it.

Bryce

You wanna just go for it?

Conor

It's got a T in it. We still got two guesses after this.

Bryce

Jesus!

Conor

I mean, I mean, still pretty decent. Um still also interesting to know that if you skip a day, you lose your streak.

Bryce

No, no, that's not true because I haven't done it. I I have not done it two days in a row and it said I had a streak, and that maybe it's But didn't we?

Conor

That one said our current streak on the computer is only one. So very interesting.

Bryce

Brutal.

Conor

Brutal Honestly, what can you do though in that situation? We nailed it all three words. I mean a lot.

Bryce

Well we we could have not played the hardcore strategy. Maybe we would have gotten there in three. No, but that's the thing, is like we we What if if we were if we were guessing if we were guessing for more letters for the second guess, what would we have guessed?

Conor

Wait, let me fill in first. So our our third guest was a long, and then our fourth guest was a loft. So just in case it wasn't clear, we got it on a loft.

Bryce

Oh yes, yes, we did get it on a loft.

Conor

And so here's the thing. We came up with what was it, eight, nine words? The word that it was was on that list, so good job to us. And I think our strategy was solid. The if it was a void, we would have locked it in for sure, and so we would have got it in three.

Bryce

I think I think the order we got how would we have gotten it in three?

Conor

So if if it was a void and we guessed allowed as our uh second one, the only word that ended in D on our list other than allowed was a void. But that was what you pointed out. You were like, oh, if we go with allowed, we're locking it in if it ends up being a void. And then the L narrowed it down to only two other words on our list.

Bryce

What I want to know is how many were how many of the words that it could have been did we get?

Conor

Oh yeah, yeah. So here we here's my um and I, you know what I'll do?

Bryce

I'll Connor wrote a little program for this, of course. In Python, I'll note. He wrote it in Python, not in C.

Conor

This is true.

Bryce

I would have written it in Python too. I would have written it in Python or Dash. I probably would have written it in Dash. Did you use did you use Rapids? Did you use NumPy and code numeric?

Conor

No, I did not. Alright, then we run it. Interesting, interesting. So here, I'll s I'll share a screenshot with you so you can.

Bryce

Are there a lot more words than we thought?

Conor

There was 30 words using the Scrabble dictionary. Only using Wordle words. There was 12.

Bryce

Where do you get the Wordle word set from? Like for your script.

Conor

You can just find it on uh if you Google Wordle word list, it takes to a Reddit, which then redirects you to a GitHub. Oh, do you integrate the script? Oh, it's just yeah, it's just no, it's not in it's uh just a text file uh in uh my folder.

Bryce

And by the way, for people who are worried about the New York Times takeover of Wordle, you can just download Wordle plus the JavaScript file. Like the website is just like it's all client side. It's just the web one HTML page plus like one JavaScript file. So you can just download it and then like play Wordle forever. Because the word list, everything is just in that JavaScript file. So even after the New York Times takes the reins of Wordle.

Conor

So there's 12 12 word valid words.

Bryce

Is that the ones that aren't wordle words?

Conor

Yeah.

Bryce

A hold isn't a wordle word? Come on. So we oh we didn't get adopt. I guess adopt is one that we should have. I would have actually maybe more.

Conor

The full the full list of 12 valid wordle words after a rose that go A blank O are allowed, we got that, along, we got that, aloft, we got that, a foul, we missed, a boat, we got, among, we missed, adopt, we missed, agony, we got, avoid, we got, a toll, we did not get, a foot, we missed as well, and a loof, we also missed. And actually, based on the fact that after allowed, the three valid guesses left were along, aloft, and aloof, we actually should have guessed aloft because it it would have told us that it was aloof if we missed. So actually, the only reason that my program puts it as the last guess is that it has a duplicate O. It always ranks duplicates last.

Bryce

Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. Well, we did okay. We did okay.

Conor

I think we still did it was a song. And also, too, irate TikToks. Yeah, I don't I don't think you know what's up. I don't think you know what's up, okay? Okay. Yeah, listen to your ADSP uh fathers here, you little TikTokers.

Bryce

Maybe we need to start a new podcast that's just about Wordle.

Conor

I mean, I think there'd be a probably bigger audience for that than there is for our uh C content here.

Bryce

Speaking of which, what C content? We the closest we've had to C content is the Python script that you're currently running.

Conor

Nope. Nope. So here we go. We're gonna wrap up. That might I might release that all as just one episode, because I don't think we can do two back-to-back Wordle episodes. Like our listeners are gonna get pissed. So now we're gonna actually record.

Bryce

But if Wordle is a fad and the fad fades, and then you release the second Wordle episode after, you know.

Conor

It's definitely getting released, but just not we're are we really gonna do two back-to-back like episode.

Bryce

I feel like you have to. I feel like you have to. Because, like, Connor, it's become such a big part of our life in our relationship.

Conor

And then there was the wordle phase of ADSP.

Bryce

What tea are you drinking?

Conor

Uh, it is imported merchies from Vancouver, British Columbia, all the way imported to Toronto. And uh it is Miss Gray.

Bryce

I'm gonna I was gonna judge you for your tea, but I've actually had tea in Vancouver and and uh like I've had very good tea experiences in Vancouver on Victoria Island, well, on Victoria Island specifically.

Conor

Vancouver Island is the name of the island, and Victoria is the name of the city that's on Vancouver Island. But uh we'll forgive you. You're American. You're American. Yeah, New Yaka. You're from the East Coast. We're at what, episode 67?

Bryce

What would it take for us to miss a Friday? Um pandemic didn't do it.

Conor

Oh yeah, should we should we talk about tail end of this?

Bryce

Oh my god, yeah, we should. Like, we didn't even talk about that. That's good.

Conor

Yeah, so unfortunately, um yeah, I got COVID.

Bryce

I like how you were gonna start into like unfortunately, I don't got it. I'm just like, I don't got COVID.

Conor

Also, too, remember that I made a list of the two things we were supposed to talk about. We haven't talked about either of those.

Bryce

I I have a thing that we have to talk about too, but but let's why don't you talk about your COVID experience?

Conor

Yeah, well, very briefly, I I got it. I had both vaccinations, but my booster got cancelled on January 17th because of a snowstorm. Thanks, Canada. And uh it was pretty rough, I gotta say. Get your boosters, get your shots, and stay healthy because it was it sucked.

Bryce

And even uh Can you still like you're okay though now?

Conor

Oh yeah, yeah. Thanks to Bryce who uh so didn't send me medical.

Bryce

So Connor tells me he thinks he may have COVID on like last Thursday, and I'm like, Connor, like like okay, like can you get a test? And I think you said I you can't go out to get the rapid test because if you're feeling symptoms, then like they tell you to not go get the test. And like, I guess you can't get them at the pharmacies up there.

Conor

It's it's ridiculous. So, like, without spending 30 minutes talking about this, you cannot currently at one point they were giving them out slash selling them rapid test. Now, at the current state of affairs, February 5th, 2022, and this has been the case for the past couple weeks when I got it. You can't go buy a rapid test. You can go get one administered for $40 Canadian, but you have to be asymptomatic at most locations. Some locations, so like you're allowed to go get a rapid test if you don't think you have COVID, basically. There are a few locations that do take symptomatic uh individuals, and uh yeah, it's 40 bucks everywhere. And I don't and and I you have to qualify for a PCR test, uh, which if you've tested positive, you do not qualify. Like you have to be pregnant, um, you have to be indigenous, or a couple other things. And so like I tested positive on a rapid test and was like, okay, can I get a PCR test? And they're like, sorry, you don't qualify.

Bryce

So so but but the way the way that Connor got, or the way so so Connor tells me like he basically doesn't have access to tests, and I'm like, Connor, like send me your address, and he sends me his address, and I just like immediately stop what I'm doing, and I go and I get two of the rapid tests, and I live in midtown Manhattan, so I walk 10 minutes, I go into a FedEx, and I'm like, I need this to be in Canada tomorrow. And the FedEx people were like very helpful. One of them, uh, I hope I'm not getting anybody in trouble, but I feel like it'd be hard to track this down. One of them is like, that I might be admitting to an international crime here. One of them is like um like filling out the form, and then another person comes in, they're like, whoa, no, no, no. Put down that it's personal effects. Because apparently, if you put down that it's rapid tests, then like the Canadian border guards hold up the package for some period of time. And so I overnight FedEx this decor at exorbitant costs, and like they were they were like they were like, well, there's two options for like overnighting it, and like one of them is like cost four dollars more and and gets there like at 9 a.m. to 1 p.m. And the other one is like $4 cheaper and gets there in like the afternoon. And like the the the cost for this shipment was like $4 was very small relative to how much this is gonna cost. So I'm like, sure, I'll pay the extra $4 for it to get there in like the morning. And I'm like, all excited. I tweet Connor, and Connor's like, wow, I can't believe you shipped it already. And so then like the next morning comes, and the package goes from like having like a very firm like delivery date to showing up as like pending and they're like operational delay, and I'm like, what the heck? And then they didn't show up for like another day or two. So now I'm like oh no, not another day or two.

Conor

It was supposed to show up on Friday, didn't show up till Monday.

Bryce

Oh my god. I like I want my money back. FedEx, if you're listening, I want my money back. Like, thank you for helping me smuggle these rapid tests into Canada, but I expected you to smuggle them into Canada next day. Connor needed me, and because of you, I let him down. But anyways, you were able to get a test. And uh now are you now COVID testing negative?

Conor

Well, so that's the thing is I have to take one later today. So I I initially tested on a Tuesday.

Bryce

Do you need me to send you more?

Conor

No, I still have three of them left. Uh so I initially tested negative on a Tuesday um because uh someone who I'd spent a lot of time with tested positive, and I was like, Well, I should if they've got COVID, I should have gotten COVID, and I tested negative, and I also felt totally fine, so I was like, okay. Then like Wednesday felt a tickle in the back of my throat. Thursday was definitely sick, and that's when I was like, Well, most of these places I can't go get a rapid test. UFEX didn't show up on Friday, so I went and got another rapid test, tested positive, and then I took one of Bryce's rapid tests uh this past Tuesday, which is we're recording this on a Saturday right now, and still tested positive, even though my quarantining period was done, and supposedly Omicron, you're it's supposed to disappear from the test results. So stay tuned, listener. I'm doing fine, but um take your shots, get your boosters. I went and got my booster on Wednesday.

Bryce

Aren't you supposed to not get the booster when like when you have COVID?

Conor

Uh so no, like the quarantine period was supposed to be you know five days now, and you're you're supposed to still get it. And then Canada came out and issued on Friday, two days after I got the booster announcement saying, if you've just been infected, don't get it for eight weeks. Um, but that recommendation didn't come out two days until after after I got the booster, so you know, constantly changing, but I think I'm like super inoculated at the moment.

Bryce

Yeah. And uh to wrap up this episode in lighter news, Eric Niebler's keyboard has been found.

Conor

I don't think we technically get to take credit, but we're gonna take credit over it.

Bryce

Oh, yeah, we're gonna oh, we're definitely taking credit. Like, like the keyboard was missing. We announced on the third most popular C podcast.

Conor

Soon to be second.

Bryce

Soon to be second. We're coming for you, CPP chat. We announced that his keyboard was missing, and then magically somebody, some good and wonderful and excellent person who I desperately hope listens to this podcast, um, found the keyboard and sent it back to Apple, and Apple sent it to Eric, and now Eric has his keyboard.

Conor

Do you mean Facebook or do you mean Apple?

Bryce

Facebook. Facebook is behind that.

Conor

Speaking of Apple, no. Yes.

Bryce

I'm probably thinking of Apple because uh You can say it because this won't come up for like a month. My dear colleague Olivier, who's been at NVIDIA for 20 years, or 19.7 years, I'm gonna round up on his behalf. If it was me that was leaving NVIDIA after being here for 19.7 years, you know me, I would just say I've been here for 20 years. But uh Olivier left uh NVIDIA this week uh and is going to Apple, where he will be the director of GPU compute um at Apple. Um so I'm very excited for him, and so that's probably why I have Apple on the mind.

Conor

Yeah, but congratulations, Olivier. It'll be sad to see you go.

Bryce

We'll still see you at conferences and we're gonna have you on this podcast at some point, and then it won't be three guys who work at NVIDIA, it'll be two guys who work at Nvidia and one guy who works at Apple.

Conor

Yeah.

Bryce

I uh so so before Olivier left, like literally in his like last like hour or two of like being an NVIDIA employee, I'd been bantering him for like the past like week or two, like, send me all your slides. I make sure that I have all your slide text. And so then he sent me like three emails with like all of his slide text. And so now like I have like an email folder that's just like Olivier slide weaponry. And it's like I feel like I've been given like the crown jewels. Yeah, it's like I have this great responsibility to uh to use these slides because like Olivier was amazing at like taking information and turning it into very effective weaponized slides that could just like convince anybody of anything.

Conor

Yep.

Bryce

And so now I now now I have inherited those slides.

Conor

Yep, Eric Niebler, Facebook and the keyboard, Olivier and Apple. And we also have one other piece of news, a future guest started at NVIDIA.

Bryce

Oh my god! Yes! Andre will be on this podcast at some point in the near future because Andre Alan Kondrescu now works at NVIDIA.

Conor

Has that been like is that common knowledge yet?

Bryce

Yeah, yeah, it's on LinkedIn and there's a Twitter thread that talks about it. Yeah, we can talk about that. Yeah, Andre, so we now have Andre, Eric, on oh, like if you if y'all think I am done hiring C people, let me tell you, I have plans. NVIDIA has the best C team out there. And if you want to come and be a part of that team, you you come contact me. You let me know. You let me know. I'm hiring.

Conor

Yep, pretty exciting. We'll maybe we'll even have to uh actually we'll we'll we'll let the we'll let the listener wait. The listener's now what listening to This sometime in March, and we're recording this at the beginning of February. Uh, which means that whenever we do record with Andre, it's gonna be like it's gonna be like April or May by the time it's out. So I was gonna say, oh, we should maybe get him on and then just like cut him in. We'll cut him in, we'll let him jump the line, but no, we'll let the listener wait. You gotta, you gotta, you know, that's what happens when you are the soon-to-be number two C podcast. The contents, it's just so juicy, but you gotta you gotta wait for it.

Bryce

I think we got an exciting year ahead of us, cuz, you know, like guess wise, we're gonna have Andre, we're gonna have Tony Van Eard. Um I think we should have.

Conor

We still gotta have back Dave Abrahams.

Bryce

Um, because we haven't we haven't finished on for sure.

Conor

Yep. We're gonna branch out, we're gonna get some Rust folks, we're gonna maybe uh bring on uh Go folks, a Go folks, a gopher? Go 1.18 came out, they got generics now. It's big news. Big news, that was the big problem with the Go. Are we?

Bryce

Yeah. You don't know why yet, but but you'll see. You'll see. It's gonna be it's gonna be cool.

Conor

Holy smokes. Even even some juicy stuff that I don't know about that uh Bryce is keeping from me.

Bryce

Well, you know, it's you know, Chandler's got the best stories. He's got the best stories.

Conor

Does he have the best stories?

Bryce

Like after Sean, he probably has the best story.

Conor

I mean, Sean almost killed a couple people.

Bryce

But like Sean's just such a next level.

Conor

Let me roll that back. Let me roll that back. Near misses on people's deaths does not necessarily make a great story. Please do not go out and nearly kill people to get on ADSP.

Bryce

That's not we do it, we do not endorse for whatever you do to get on this podcast. But that said, it better be good. It better be really good. We take no responsibility. But um, like if you have a great story about a time that you smuggled something across the Canadian border, let us know.

Conor

Yeah.

Bryce

I'm gonna I'm gonna get arrested when I come to CPP North, aren't you? They're gonna the the little the little horse police are gonna be waiting for me at the border.

Conor

This is the beautiful thing, is that we don't really take this podcast too seriously. Like uh our other podcast, this is this is a random tangent because we're this we're this landing of this episode is real rough. Is uh I wanted our the executive producer Bob Terrier to cut in a clip of the uh internet is evil song from the Bo Burnham special or whatever, or Internet is everywhere. Could I interest you in everything all of the time a bit of everything all of the time is a time and more than crime anything and everything all of the time, could I interest you in everything all of the time? Little bit of everything all of the time, it's a crime and more than it's a crime anything and everything and anything and everything and anything and everything and all of the time. And uh he was worried about like copyright. And I was like, My guy, what nobody listen, nobody listens to our like in the scheme of podcasts, nobody's like the podcast police are not listening to a ray cast and ADSP.

Bryce

Don't worry, if we do get sued, my mother's a lawyer and she'll she'll represent us, right, mom?

Conor

We that's awesome. We actually have an ADSP, we've got we've got a legal team.

Bryce

Yeah, yeah.

Conor

So so really like Bryce's mom's our legal team. What's up? What's gonna come after?

Bryce

Many of you know my mother, but you know me, and you know that I'm pretty, pretty I'm a handful. So like before you before you think about suing us, think about whether you want to deal with the lawyer version of me. Um, like, yeah, because that's a little a little much.

Conor

Yeah, that's awesome. We've got a legal, we've got a legal team here at ADSP, the podcast.

Bryce

It's Bryce's mom, and that's like it sounds like and if you're like a big company, Connor's dad is gonna go find like whatever stuff you did. Connor used to tell me these stories about how like he'd meet like people would be like the companies would be like terrified of his dad. So don't don't mess with his podcast.

Conor

Yeah, that's true. And my dad's a journalist. That when certain when he shows up, like red flags get raised in corporate whatever, and emails get sent as oh, oh shoot, Gord Hookstra is uh he's on the phone. This isn't good. This isn't good.

Bryce

So unless you want that, so so so stay away from us unless you want that to happen to you.

Conor

Yeah.

Bryce

But seriously, please don't, please don't sue us.

Conor

Well, so what are the what are the clips? We've uh we've got the fiddler on the roof uh tradition. Did you what did you listen to that one?

Bryce

I guess I have to now.

Conor

It's miss it's the it's the best, man. I cut in a whole like 60 seconds of fiddling.

Bryce

I feel like that's kind of I think that's public domain now. I think we're good there. Yeah, but we're well okay, but where'd you get the clip from?

Conor

Uh I mean I'm not I'm not gonna give the people that want to sue us like material. If you want to sue us, you're gonna have to do your work, okay? And we're gonna counter sue you real fast. Because we've got a legal team here at ADSP, the podcast. And um, you know, does what do you think your mom, you and your mom do all that yoga for? It's to be nimble and quick, boom, counter suit. Slander. All right. Uh Jeff, I hope that answers your question.

Bryce

Thank you for putting up with us, Jeff. We uh we love you. We we love all of our listeners.

Conor

Tune in next time to find out who Jeff is and hear our answer to his question. Thanks for listening. We hope you enjoyed and have a great day.