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Ladies and gentlemen, it's I John Truman Wolfe Financial Hour. Now here is John Truman Wolf.

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Hi folks, John Truman Wolf here with John Truman Wolf Financial Hour. Thank you so much for joining us on a kind of a cloudy afternoon broadcasting uh live from the Los Padres National Forest uh way north of LA. A little chilly up here today. There's no sunshine, it's all uh overcast and um and uh cold. No snow, not that cold, but uh um uh well it's chilly outside. Uh okay, a quick look at today's investment uh numbers and uh areas. We have a new Fed chair, so um things are um uh uh not hugely different, but um he has uh he stepped in a little bit to the inflation picture, of course. Um uh looking at the um uh equities, uh with the stocks are trading, the Dow Jones is trading uh uh over forty-three six. Um and I think it's gonna continue going up. Where's the top uh of the Dow Jones? I don't know where the top is. Um uh my crystal ball only goes so far. Uh the crystal ball still shows up but um doesn't have a t my doesn't have a top to it. Um the precious metals uh which have been kind of bouncing around um uh gold up really substantially today uh but we're still short of the famous uh uh or infamous um five thousand dollar an ounce gold um trading uh forty-five in change and um silver um at uh I think it's seventy-five dollars an ounce in change. So uh both of those are strong if you look at a graph and and and look at the uh the history and the time track of of both the precious metals. They're strong, but they have been both of them uh have been just kind of treading water in their current uh uh areas. Uh I think the area for the b you know biggest potential return uh is crypto. Uh last week's show I talked at some length uh about XRP, a crypto uh put out by a company named Ripple. Um I looked today before the show uh and uh XRP's uh trading at a I think it was a buck twenty. Maybe it was a buck fifty. Um but in my opinion, a very, very, very good buy uh if you're gonna stick your toe into the crypto market. Uh grab some XRP. I think at less than two bucks, which is where it is, um is is uh uh the buy the buy of a lifetime. Um we'll we'll see how that goes, but um uh I I feel very strongly about XRP. Uh mortgage rates bounce back up a bit. Not good news uh for home buyers. Um they bounced from around six and a half to around six seventy five. Um this is not uh beneficial to potential home buyers. Okay, uh I'm John Thermomolf. This is the John Trimmel Wolf Financial Hour. Uh we'll be right back after these messages and talk to our friend Mike Letz. Stay with us.

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All right, folks, we are back. I am John Truman Wolf, uh, joined as we are often by our good friend Mike Letz, the CEO of Investusa.org, a magnificent nonprofit that helps uh men and women in law enforcement. Um and Mike and I usually touch base on some political aspect of uh of the environment. Um Mike, I'm just uh something I've been curious about. It's not really um uh a hot issue these days, and uh any decision about it doesn't uh really affect anything. But I was very sad to see Christy Nome go. Uh and there was talk uh that she went because she spent a bunch of money on some ads. Do you have do you have any information on that at all? Yeah, that's uh partial what you said.

SPEAKER_04 6:31

Here here is the issue. Is uh first of all, of course, we were attempting to scale back, not in terms of operations in the field, but in terms of what we called excess. He felt like they needed uh a couple, or especially one, two is what she was looking for, two new private jets to crisscross for transportation. Now the air fleet didn't seem to agree with her on that, but she was the director, she won out on that. That was the first thing they caused a red flag. I remember just because you have a red flag doesn't mean you're walking out the door. But then there was the uh issue of that we had all agreed upon, and I think John, you would even agree with this, the messaging was not being as productive as could be. And so we took that to suggest that she should concentrate more on putting out that message, including paid messages. Okay. We didn't appose now. Well, when we she made the comment that the president approved it, that was stretching it further than what had been said. What she approved was a contract to a company for one of her key aides who was working on the side and it was uh no con n no big contest. So I see. That will you know. No, we don't we don't go there. So when you add those things together, that's when you began to lose the confidence in the press from the president.

SPEAKER_18 8:07

I see. Uh I see that kind of that kind of explains it. Uh well, on to a uh uh a hot issue just before the show, there was an announcement that there was an agreement between the U.S. and Iran that said the president hadn't signed it, but it sounds like there's something at this point that they've basically agreed to verbally. Do you have any data on that? Yes, there is.

SPEAKER_04 8:33

And uh, you know, the uh what they're working on in the schedule now is initially the we made it dead in the water, was Iran was taking the position that there was no discussion on its enriched uranium, i.e. meaning they would continue to pursue atomic weapons. That has not changed. They're now in discussions on the timing on how to remove it and where it gets removed to. That seems to be going in the direction that we have indicated, and that once it's done, the president will sign off. But what's causing all this? The president was very astute in his response. Look, you think I'm being hurt, maybe I am being hurt in the polls, what's going on, but it's nothing compared to what's happening to your country by the naval blockades. And you're losing every day, and pretty soon you're going to collapse without us. So your call, we'll sit and wait as long as necessary. Once it was clearly understood that we were not going to remove, and you recall last night they attempted to attack a U.S. flag ship. They did cause some damage, by the way. But what most people are not understanding, because the mainstream media is not reporting, is we have been aggressively over the last few days targeting uh key uh infrastructure and key locations, logistical positioning, to make it uh very clear that with the snap of a finger we can go in and finish this thing off in a matter of a couple days. And they have been seeing that we are aggressive, we're not uh crowing about it anymore. We're just taking out what needs to be done to pave the way for us to move in and finish out. Where's the problem? The Revolutionary Guard. We understand now that their administrative infrastructure wants peace, they want to do the right thing. The Revolutionary Guard wants to fill the vacuum with their craziness. Not gonna happen. We are now moving, and you're seeing this, we're taking out the middle uh leadership in the Revolutionary Guard on a very rapid basis. I think they clearly understand they're gonna be gone. Their leadership will be dead. And uh their soldiers do not want to take co-wars with somebody, which is gonna lead to their death.

SPEAKER_18 10:51

There seems to be from some of the news reports a uh uh uh a disagreement between the IRGC and uh other political people there. In other words, they're lead yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_04 11:04

Well that's that's good news. You know, the revolution guard for some reason felt like, ooh, there's a void in leadership. We'll volunteer, we'll take it over, and we'll be even worse than the IRCOLs. We'll run this whole show because we're the only willing to step up. Well, they weren't the only ones willing to step up. They were the ones willing to step up who wanted to exercise the most force in doing so. And uh the uh Iranian people are tired of being shoved around.

SPEAKER_18 11:31

Uh, I hope they get uh I really hope they get replaced. I hope this thing wraps up uh soon because I think uh that there there isn't uh true hatred for the Iranian people by the administration. Just the leadership needs to be removed. And you're uh, you know, it's a it's a it's a nice country, and and uh I've got a bunch of Iranian friends and nice folks. Uh I think they have this um c you know crazy theocracy um uh that's uh been holding that country hostage for damn near fifty years.

SPEAKER_04 12:09

So hardly I think one of the things that that needs to be said, John, is this we are behind the scenes positioning to make sure the dissidents are armed. And I think the Revolutionary Guard knows that when we eliminate the middle leadership and the average soldiers soldiers are going to be said, you're the one that killed everybody, we're you're gonna pay. Uh-uh. They don't want that. So they're they're they're they're revolting very quickly.

SPEAKER_18 12:34

Um it it'll be it'll be a good thing to see. Um a hell of a good thing to see. Um all right. Well you know, he uh we we're living through history, Mike. I mean, what uh Trump is uh what Trump is doing is uh is historic. I don't agree with everything from uh from the Donald, uh, but I'll tell you he's the most productive president in American history. Um he just gets stuff done. That's all.

SPEAKER_04 13:07

He gets we never said it was gonna be easy, we did say we were gonna get things done.

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Well, that's exactly what's happening. Uh okay, folks. Well, we've been talking to our good friend Mike Letz. He's a CEO of a nonprofit that he established to help his brothers and sisters in blue. Um it's called InvestUSA.org. It's an organization that provides bulletproof vests to uh men and women in blue, to the uh to law enforcement, um, and it deserves your support. Um uh Mike Lutz, uh chairman of uh InvestUSA.org. We will see we will see you next week and hopefully uh we'll have a war wrapped up. Talk later. I'm John Truman Wolf. This is the John Truman Wolf Financial Hour. We'll be right back.

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All right, folks, we are back. John Truman Wolf here with the John Truman Wolf Financial Hour. We are uh uh just delighted to have a friend uh uh join us, Peter Green, a uh uh one of the finest artists in uh I was gonna say LA, but probably uh in the U.S. Peter is uh is uh uh an artist of of of great renown, um, has done a lot of work for the LA Times and uh uh is uh engaged in in other art. Uh Peter, thanks for joining us. Yeah, my pleasure, John. Uh I I I'm sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 18:13

No, no, I uh yeah, I may need to kind of explain a little history here because LA Times was part of my life, but uh many parts of it for sure. When it comes to the art, if you have any any questions or whatever, I can fill in the gaps.

SPEAKER_18 18:29

There there is a uh uh uh a site here, uh artofpetergreen.com, folks, artofpetergreen uh uh uh dot com. And uh on that site there's uh uh different sections. One's called uh charcoals, and others called caricatures, and others called LA Times, then portraits, and then about. The about section's got a little bio on you. You're uh Peter, you're one of ten kids.

SPEAKER_05 18:59

Yes, I am. I I listened to your commercial for Harmony Cheese, uh Wisconsin Cheese, that's that's my home state there. And uh uh yeah, so I'm I my dad had a dairy, and it was uh a nice business when you have ten kids to have a dairy.

SPEAKER_18 19:17

Uh well now tell us about uh let's kind of take them a across. Uh the f the first section is charcoals. Um and those are um folks, if you go there, artofpetergreen.com, you just click the charcoal ones. There's a bunch of uh several uh lots of uh of charcoal drawings there. Uh and and where what was what's the emphasis of those uh uh pictures, Peter?

SPEAKER_05 19:49

Uh well let's see, if you're uh on that site, for instance, you'll see the uh Nixon and Agnew in the upper left corner. Uh you probably see that, right?

SPEAKER_18 20:00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see it.

SPEAKER_05 20:02

Yeah, now that was done, I was in New York. That's kind of where I started with Esquire magazine, uh, my career as a caricature artist. Uh and I did that uh caricature for uh a Vista magazine. It was right around the time of the Vietnam War, and of course a lot of pressure on Agnew and Nixon at that time, and of course, this was a great suggestion for a Christmas gift that they might enjoy, uh with the dove popping out of the Christmas box. Um I did probably more caricatures of Nixon uh in my career probably than any other politician. Uh he just lent very well to to doing caricatures. Um but that you know that uh is the first one you see, and then you see uh, you know, uh the whole page is full of other caricatures. Captain and Teneal is right next to that one. That was for AM Records. I at that time I did pretty much all the AM Records people, uh Cap Stevens and uh they were they were a pretty large group back then that were with AM, and uh the art director said, Oh, it'd be kind of cool to do caricatures of these guys. By the way, that would not happen today. Uh what happened over the years is celebrities and you know, movie stars and performers um got a little vain and they were not quite willing, they're not so willing to have their faces distorted uh the way they were back then.

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SPEAKER_18 21:38

Now are these charcoals sorry to interrupt here, but are now are these charcoals d d uh d d are these for sale?

SPEAKER_05 21:46

Do people buy them or or Yeah, no, they they uh have I've sold them over the years. I've sold many of my originals. Uh they there's a period um I I did charcoal back then because in Printing, newspaper printing, magazine printing. Color printing was not what it is today. Everything is color today. And uh back then you had to work in black and white uh for newspaper particularly. Uh and so uh yeah, so I've done I used to do uh charcoal was a a really good medium because it gave me a chance to get black blacks and white whites, and I would sort of smear the charcoal around to get the gray tones. Um the one right next to Captain Internal is Bill Buckley. And uh that is part of a deck of cards that I did back in 1972 called Politicards, which uh he was a joker along with Norman Mailer, who was the other joker. And uh that was the first uh my first venture into a political product, because as an artist, you're always looking for a way to sort of sell your work. And uh it's easy enough to do work for magazines and newspapers, but you know, if you want to sell the work, you have to create a product.

SPEAKER_18 23:05

And I create folks, uh uh Peter, hold that thought. Uh folks, I'm John Schumanwolf. This is the John Schuman Wolf Financial Hour. We're talking to artist Peter Green, whose site is ArtofPeterGreen.com. We'll be right back. Stay with us.

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And we're back on Don Tumul for the Don Tumwall Financial Hour talking to artist Peter Green, uh, whose site is artofpetergreen.com. And uh he's got various sections of the types of art he creates. And we're talking about uh some of the uh uh drawings in the charcoal section. Uh uh the on the top uh uh tier there, uh Peter, off to the right. Who is in that booth? That looks like Malcolm X. Um is that Eldridge Cleaver behind him?

SPEAKER_05 28:13

Yes. Yeah, and then uh Baldwin is at the very back. Uh and I forget, you know, that third guy. Uh he he was another uh a black uh I I'm not sure if he's Black Cantor or he was very much involved at that time in the in the whole black movement. And this was done in 1969, you know. So these were they they were all uh they were rowing about full of a minefield uh that could that could blow up at any point. Um but it's it's an interesting go ahead.

SPEAKER_18 28:47

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 28:47

Uh I was just gonna say that you know this this uh we probably have a bit to cover here, but this is the charcoal, you know, time period that that uh represents probably about ten years of my early uh drawing. And I I started out by doing caricatures of people on the street in Chicago, in old town Chicago, and uh sort of got my chops uh you know, learning how to do quick caricatures on the street. And then by the time I got to New York, uh I went to Esquire with my portfolio and the and the art director said, Oh, this is perfect. You know, we're we're looking for exactly that kind of caricature for Esquire, and uh and then I uh moved to LA uh a bit uh about a year later and then got into the movie world and and movie advertising. I'm kind of jumping around a little bit here because we we've got much to cover, but I switched my style uh after I moved to LA because it became much more entertainment uh oriented work, uh whereas New York is a very editorial world.

SPEAKER_18 29:52

Very the uh next to next to the charcoal, speaking of uh LA and entertainment, is uh uh a section that's got uh uh caricatures, and and that's almost all uh uh movie stars. I there's Pacino, Brad Pitt, and Cameron Diaz, Clint, etc. Now, do uh uh d do people buy the uh buy those, Peter?

SPEAKER_05 30:18

Yeah, that was another deck of cards because the politicards I mentioned in 72, uh which by the way I did when I was in LA, and I was working for the LA Times doing editorial drawings, an interesting story because I was every week I would do an editorial drawing for the LA Times back then, and I came out with Politicards, and they they said we'd like to do a story on it. And before the cards were even out, uh they were printed, but they weren't in stores, the LA Times did their story, and uh they were syndicated at that time by 350 newspapers across the country, and their story said Politicard sweeps the nation with a picture of me standing in front of all the pictures and yeah, and they syndicated it to every one of their papers, and I had probably orders for a million decks of cards overnight. Wow, wow, and the problem you think, well, that's a nice problem to have. No, it's not a nice problem because at that time I was printing my cards in Japan. Japan was China back then when it came to cheap production of things. Uh so I I was printing them in Japan, and ironically, Nixon put an excise tax and an embargo tax on everything coming in from Japan, much like Trump is doing now. And it m made my cards go from thirty-five cents a deck cost to print to a dollar a deck, which made it impossible to sell them at my retail price of three fifty. And so I had to find another printer. I basically couldn't fill any of the orders that came in. I sold all 50,000 decks that I printed in Japan immediately. One one order. Sold. And then it came time to sell more. I had no more product until three months later I bought a place in Chicago to print the cards, but all the orders were canceled at that point. So anyway, uh the good news is it it became a very collectible product, and it's still it'll is a very collectible tr uh the cards sell for quite a bit of money, about $150 a deck uh today on politic cards. But since then I've done political cards, political cards, from uh I got the name back again. I lost a name and I got it back in 96. So I did 96, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016. Each of those election years were a deck of cards that the combined sales were something like a million decks. Um but I will tell you, uh John, that the you know, although Politic Cards did well for me, uh within the last two weeks, uh I think I mentioned this to you, uh, I did a product called NBA All Pro Deal Cards about 20 years ago that were caricatures of the top NBA players at that time, the all-star players. And I got a license from the NBA to do it. And uh I thought, well, you know, I'll make a a lot of money off of this, except I couldn't sell them in the arenas because uh Lakers arena would not sell anything but Lakers merchandise. So I I couldn't sell products that had other players until about two weeks ago a blogger by the name of Nicholas Burton Burton's Brakes is the name of his Instagram account, he discovered these cards and he declared they were the hottest cards in the collectible world right now. And they went from me selling them online for about $25 a deck to a thousand dollars a deck in the last two weeks. And uh the two cards that are driving it were Colby Bryant and LeBron James, they're both in the deck back in in 2004 and 2005. But um this uh auction market has gone absolutely wild when it comes to collectible stuff. And as a matter of fact, the company Heritage Auctions, which is the largest pop culture auction house in the world, uh recently about a year ago, sold one NBA card, uh, which is with a Kobe and uh Michael Jordan. Uh they sold one card for uh twelve million seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. And uh that's how crazy uh sports collectibles are these days.

SPEAKER_18 34:45

So uh okay. Peter, sorry, sorry, the but they we uh we lost the sound there. Um and I was just catching your your your last uh uh comment. Wow. Uh oh, we're gonna take a break. All right, we're gonna take a break. We're gonna be back with artist uh Peter Green, the art of Peter Green, uh right after these messages. You stay with us, folks. We'll be right back.

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SPEAKER_18 37:33

All right, folks, we're back. John Truman Warfare, back uh live with the OSR. We uh lost you there uh briefly uh talking to you uh the artist Peter Green, and I'm looking at a section on his site, uh, Art of Peter Green, of uh portraits, and uh there's a bunch of portraits there. Uh I see uh friends of mine, uh Grant and Elena Cardone, that's a gorgeous uh portrait, uh Peter, that you did of them. Um But uh do other are you still doing that? Do people call you for portraits? I happen to see I happened to see on Facebook yesterday a portrait of a uh, I guess a mutual friend, Freddie Ulan, um, Dr. Freddie Ulan. It's a wonderful picture of him.

SPEAKER_05 38:22

Yeah, yeah, I've known Freddie a long time, and uh I took the original picture of Freddie, that photograph that he used for years, uh that that is still on his Facebook page, but the picture is 20 years old. And I uh said, boy, you know, I'm gonna do a new updated picture because he lives in in Clearwater, Florida now, so he should have a casual shirt and uh a beach scene behind him and not a uh a suit and tie. So um, you know, I I uh sent it to him and and he flipped out and uh it was interesting because I just visited uh uh Clearwater and I ran into him in a grocery store uh there and uh I said, Freddie, I can't believe you I bumped into you, I just did your portrait. And uh it was just one of those coincidental things, right? But uh he it was his birthday and so he he thanked me for it and put it online. But yes, I still do them and uh I d I do you know more portraits than probably anything these days. I love portraits because there's something about capturing the spirit of the person. Uh and uh the fact that you've got people that know that person and and it hangs on the wall and they you know it's it's different than a photograph because you can kind of interpret a little bit into it.

SPEAKER_18 39:44

Yeah. Yeah, I see uh I see a picture of uh a portrait of Walt Disney there. Um reminds me of uh many, many, many, many, many years ago. Uh uh during the summer, I worked at Disneyland as I was uh uh earning my way through college. And um worked at a place called Carnation on Main Street. It's a little soda shop, and uh a friend of mine was my friend of mine was manning the window serving ice cream cones to people that walk by. And uh there's a huge line there, and he's just scooping it up, and he's handing the the ice cream cones out, and he says, next, and he did next, next, and the voice comes and goes, Next please. Uh and he goes, next, okay, Mr. Next please. And he looks up and it was Walt Disney.

SPEAKER_05 40:38

Um now you were working there at that time?

SPEAKER_18 40:45

I was working there at that time. My my between my uh sophomore and junior uh freshman and sophomore year college, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 40:54

Ah, you you might have been in the same time Steve Martin was there then, right? Because he worked there around that time too.

SPEAKER_18 41:01

Uh uh, I see this would have a job. This oh, it was. I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_05 41:08

Well um I don't know it was that he talks about Disneyland all the time. Um but uh yeah that uh that that uh as you scroll down that page, by the way, another you see the picture of Shaquille O'Neal. Yeah, Santa Claus. That I've worked with Shaq now for many years, and uh he does an event every s every year called Shack uh Shack a Claus. And so that's his latest updated um the original one that I did of him at Santa Claus was twenty years ago. Again, it didn't look like him i anymore. He looked very different. So it was time to debut a new updated Shack. And uh uh that's the that just was launched last uh Christmas, as a matter of fact, as his official Santa portrait.

SPEAKER_18 42:03

But uh it's a it's it's a marvel it's a marvelous picture.

SPEAKER_05 42:08

Uh he's a tough guy because he you know you don't with caricatures you don't want to really make people look mean and ugly and nasty. And he's he kind of really uh he loves to big that do that big smile, and that's a picture from I used that was Epson because he represents Epson now. And uh I figured I'll I'll be on safe ground because if Epson is good enough for Epson that expression, it's good enough for his shack of claws.

SPEAKER_18 42:37

There you go. So wonderful shots here. I see Prince, um, but there's a a lot of quote ordinary people. Um so folks, if you're in the market, you know, this would be a great thing for an anniversary or a Christmas present or that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_05 42:56

That's great. That prince portrait was a gift that his manager hired me to do for him for his birthday, by the way.

SPEAKER_18 43:04

Oh, oh, interesting, interesting.

SPEAKER_05 43:07

Uh uh and then right next to that is a picture of the these guys in a stagecoach, you see, with a biker. Uh that that was uh uh I did that for Universal uh music, and that was the those are the new riders of the Purple Sage back in the 80s. Uh and uh it was just uh that was a way of of kind of depicting uh performers instead of photographs. Uh you know, I did a lot of caricatures of of performers too, uh that were musicians. Uh but yeah, I do a uh ne next to them is uh are is my brother and his wife, by the way, Tom and and Phyllis. They live back in Wisconsin.

SPEAKER_18 43:51

Uh and that that is All right, hold Peter, hold Peter, hold that thought uh on your brother, and uh we're gonna take a break. Uh talk. To the artist Peter Green on his site, artofpetergreen.com. I'm John Truman Wolf, and we'll be right back.

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SPEAKER_18 47:34

All right, folks, we're back. John Truman Wolfe here talking to our friend Peter Green, whose uh website is artofpetergreen.com. Uh and we're talking before the break about um uh a portrait. If you go to his site and click the um icon that says portraits, you can see portraits of all kinds of people, famous people and just ordinary people. And uh yeah, to my mind, um uh this would be a just a wonderful gift for uh for a what anniversary or a birthday or whatever. Uh if if uh Peter, if somebody wants to do that, uh how do how do they uh uh retain your services for a portrait?

SPEAKER_05 48:19

Bottom of that page, it'll say contact, got a contact point, you know, at Peter at Art of PeterGreen.com, and they could certainly contact me. I'll give you an idea of of typically what these cost. Uh you know, there's there's probably on the low end it's you know maybe $750 for uh a black and white uh drawing, and uh about $1,200 for a color, and then that could be watercolor, and then it could be uh as much as say $3,500 for oil. Uh it could be more than that, too, but those are sort of the range. I didn't want people to think they're they're hugely expensive, they're not that costly. Uh but they will have uh I think a very unique uh gift to give somebody when uh when you you go that route. Um a lot of it depends uh on the quality of the photograph. I really uh sort of demand that the pictures I'm working with are well-lit, sharp, interesting pictures of the person. Uh and uh it's it sort of uh helps me tremendously to pull out that person, the the beingness of the person when I have a good photograph to work with.

SPEAKER_18 49:35

Well, I think that's uh I I think I I think it'd be a terrific gift. Now I think that pricing is um uh very, very, very reasonable for uh art of this nature. Um folks, we're talking to uh artist Peter Green. Uh go to his site, Art of Peter Green. Uh if you're interested in a portrait, there's a section there where you can click and see the kinds of portraits that he's done over the years, uh, as well as uh caricatures and charcoal drawings and and work he's done for the LA Times. Peter, it's been a delight having you. Um uh folks, art of petergreen.com. I'm John Truman Wolf. This is the John Truman Wolf Financial Hour. Uh and we're uh wrapping up today's show. We're here every week, same time, same station, uh, and uh we'll be looking forward to uh talking to you next week. Uh Peter, thank you for joining us.

SPEAKER_05 50:37

Yeah, and John, thank you for having me. It was a real honor to have me too. So great. I'll uh talk to you soon.

SPEAKER_18 50:46

Our our our pleasure. Okay, um uh Mike uh that uh uh wraps me for um the afternoon. Um just as a reminder uh for folks, I'm just looking, I'm still on Peter's site. Um and if you take a look there, you can see the charcoals that he's done over the years, some really fascinating stuff. I mean, really fascinating stuff. Uh charcoals, then some caricatures, some of the some celebrities, uh, some great pictures there. Um, you know, Jack Black, Jack uh Nicholson, Johnny Depp. I'm just kind of scrolling through. Uh Julia Roberts, uh, etc. etc. Um anyway, uh next uh next week, uh hopefully we'll be able to report or the wrap-up of this uh war. Uh we'll have to see. Um but uh we'll see you here next week, same time, same station, uh, and uh have a good week, folks.