This episode is for anyone who ever experienced culture shock.

Kenzie Grimm and I both grew up in West Bend, Iowa. She had 44 kids in her high school class. I had 32. Our town is a mile long, and it has no stoplights. It has far, far, far more cattle than people.  And growing up, we both thought this was normal!

But since growing up this way, Kenzie has become intercontinental--she's been to 17 nations. 

This interview will be different for me, too, because usually I try to let my guests do 85% of the talking. But I might have a few stories, too.

(This episode was recorded August 11, 2021.)