From Spiritual Collapse to Cosmic Language: A Conversation with Energy Worker and Artist Brian C. Mears

I am SO excited to chat with this incredible human! HIs intro alone is just transformative! Check out is art here-  (and as always...thanks  for being here!)

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Everything changed the moment my old life fell apart—and the teacher who kept reminding me “you’ve got this” finally sat down to talk. Meet Brian C. Mears: acupuncturist, energy worker, and visionary artist whose light-coded paintings feel less like images and more like transmissions. Together we pull back the curtain on awakening without the fluff: what channeling actually is, why your body shakes when energy upgrades, and how tones and light language arrive long before your mind catches up.

Brian’s story begins in the body, with severe asthma and eczema that sharpened his sensitivity and taught him to read energy as survival. That vigilance evolved into a grounded channeling practice he describes as stepping out of first-person into the observer—choosing a perspective (Pleiadian, Arcturian, dragon, crystalline grid) and transmitting what serves. We talk kriyas and somatic symptoms, how to trust what feels like love, and why frequency doesn’t lie even when words can. If you’ve ever felt your face flush during meditation, heard a tone rise unbidden, or watched your hands draw symbols you don’t recognize, you’re not broken—you’re remembering.

We dive into Brian’s art, where sacred geometry and light codes create fields you can feel. He works until the canvas carries more frequency than his eyes can hold, then uses light language—spoken or written—to tune specific zones like a luthier shaping resonance. The result is a meditation you can see: track a spiral, pause where you’re pulled, and let the work recalibrate your nervous system. Along the way we refuse to float off the planet. Ascension here means staying human, lifting with the world, and honoring that there are many paths up the same mountain. Maybe yours is dragon-backed. Maybe it’s a childhood constellation calling you home. Either way, curiosity beats judgment every time.

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Transcript

Julie’s Origin: The “Spiritual Shit Show”

SPEAKER_00 0:02

Hello and welcome back to the spiritual chit show. My name is Julie Wynn, and I am so excited to share today's podcast with you. As many of you know, this podcast was burst from my own spiritual chit show, that time in my life when my identity got wrecked from me. I left my job, I didn't have an income, it really rattled my marriage. I was kind of just dropped in the middle of the woods and no direction and completely naked, cold, and trembling, and wondering what the fuck has happened. And in that forced me into the spiritual truth of becoming. I would have never ventured on this journey of becoming and remembering and uh embracing more parts of myself if it wasn't for that very uh somewhat traumatic. I lose, I use traumatics mostly now because it just doesn't feel traumatic. It feels like that's what needed to happen. Um so yay for healing. But in that space where I was, you know, really lost and needing direction, I am so grateful for the people who showed up as my alchemists in life, those teachers. And today I got to sit down and share a conversation, which I have never done before because I have always just sought out the services of this particular soul. And so today, I'm not gonna lie, I was a little nervous talking to him because, again, we've never actually just had a conversation, but today on the show is Brian Seymour, who is an artist, an energy worker, acupuncturist by trade, and somebody who in my life was there to so lovingly and compassionately ground me and to point me in the direction that I needed to go. And anytime life was feeling like I couldn't do it by myself anymore, he was there to help me in the becoming and always, always grounding me back into you got this, you got this, and let me just offer you a little nourishment of truth and light. So I'm gonna stop talking because you have a lot of listening to do. As always, thank you so much for being here. And I hope that these shares and these podcasts really open something, just even if it's just a little nugget. I know for me, if uh, I really suggest watching this one on YouTube because he has his art behind him. But to me, on the receiving side of being able to hold these conversations with my friends, I just feel yeah, like a really beautiful, grounding, energetic transmission. And I hope that that um comes through for you as well. So grab your tea, grab your blankie, settle in and yeah, enjoy this share. Welcome to the spiritual shit show and thank you for being my second ever guest on the podcast. Um, I'm really grateful to be able to practice the space of sharing information. And when I um sent a little voice memo over, it was my intention for right now with all of this is to hold transformative conversations, but that they're not performative. Um, and then also, but they're very informative. So thank you, Brian, for being here. I'll let you introduce yourself in a minute, but before we do that, um, you know, this the podcast is called The Spiritual Shit Show. And my own personal spiritual shit show, which is when everything in my life kind of crumbled, and it's been this slow army crawl back to remembering who I am and what I'm doing and what lights me up. And in every moment when it was like really rattling for me, I think you have met me in these spaces where I'm like, I don't know what is happening. You have been such a strong and guiding force in my life to offer me clarity and uh grounding. So I just want to start off this podcast for a really deep acknowledgement for you being such an incredible teacher. And in many ways for me, I see you as a master, a master in energy work, a master in spirituality, just here in this messy human form, which sometimes is never fun. Um, but so many interactions with you have been so transformative energetically for me, not just spiritually and you know, physically, because I came to you and I was a mess always. But uh yeah, there's just something about I can't even name it how it feels like you have always just kind of opened the door for me as I get into the next phase. And then I meet you again and you open the door and you and you usher me into the next room, and then I come and meet you again, and you're like, it's nice to see you again. So, in many ways, I just really, really respect you because I feel like um the way I am able to receive you is somebody who is always patiently ushering with so much human compassion us through these doors of life to get us through. So thank you.

Childhood Illness, Sensitivity, and “Face Dancing”

SPEAKER_01 5:33

Thank you, Julie. That's I I can't do anything better on an intro than that. It's been wonderful to work with you uh and your family and everybody else that comes into my office uh and spend uh spend time sharing with them and their journeys and the pathways that they take uh to be able to become better versions of themselves on a day-to-day basis. Um, thank you for this opportunity. It's great to be able to uh share on a podcast, uh especially with as much work as you and I have done uh together over the years. Um and uh just being even just the birth of the sh podcast itself, uh, I believe has come out of some of the work that we've done. So great to be a piece of this, and thank you for having me as a guest. Um as Julie said, uh my name is Brian C. Mears. Uh, I'm an acupuncturist by training. I've been doing that for about 21 years. Um over that amount of time, um, the energy work that I used to do as a kid has shifted and developed into something that's much more difficult to define. Um, in talking to one of my friends, they uh gave me the this concept that I'm an interdimensional node holder on the cosmic crystalline grid. Um I use this placement that I have as an activator and illuminator of the path for others. Um and through the time uh that I've been spending both in my office as an energy worker and as an acupuncturist, um I also have uh developed uh a visionary style of art um that dives deeply into sacred geometry. Uh, I use light language in all of my transmissions at this point in time. Uh, there's always cosmic connections within my artwork um and then channeled messages that come in from different surroundings star systems. Um, one of the pieces that we've got behind me happens uh to be one of my pieces of art, and then off there to Julie's left is also um this beautiful piece that uh so honored that you you love that one to have it be part of the show. So um thank you for uh having me and um I look forward to our conversation today.

SPEAKER_00 7:30

Me too. And I scripted it all, and now I'm just gonna toss, I'm gonna set that away actually.

SPEAKER_02 7:40

All right.

SPEAKER_00 7:41

Yeah, because I well, I'm curious if you don't mind talking about uh in your in your intro of these things that you um can acknowledge that you've always done as far as energy work from childhood. So, what did that look like for you?

SPEAKER_01 7:56

Um as a kid, I used to have just knowledge that I wasn't supposed to have. Um I had uh life-threatening asthma and debilitating eczema uh since birth. I actually was born with lesions across my back. Um, and so as a young kid, it was breathless moments and just moments of absolute raw vulnerabilities because I had weeping lesions on my body um all throughout childhood. Um and in that space I learned to be able to start reading rooms and reading what was going on uh around me. And some of it was self-preservation because somebody's anger, I need to put up an extra shielding there to keep myself safe because I literally had holes in my body. Um, and that created a space where I started being able to channel without realizing that's what it was at the time. Um so as a kid, I used to get in trouble for saying things uh to adults about you know something that they should, a choice that they should make, or have you thought about looking at it in this perspective and they're like, well, you're 10, you shouldn't know that, so be quiet, kid. Um and then um uh early 20s, uh, when alcohol came online, um, I noticed that uh not only was I getting those transmissions clearer, and I think it was just because the conscious mind was out of the way in early experimentation with um pharmaceutically uh related uh sedation, um, but I would also notice that people's faces would shift and change on me. Um and at first I was wondering what the heck was in the drink that I just had. And then over time I've learned that I was actually seeing which chakra people's energy was coming from. And when people are young and they're drinking, they don't know how to align their chakras and they don't know how to be which where where they're supposed to be from. Um and so they would constantly shift. And I think most of us have seen this. I think the easiest example is uh our significant other, right? When our partner comes home and they're in a great mood, their face looks completely different. Versus if they come home and they've had a really hard day, it's not just the frown on their face, but there is subtle shifts and changes there. Um and then if they're in a mood to go have some intimacy, then you know they're coming from a different chakra there and they absolutely look different, subtly in the face, but energetically, it's very loud. So I used to call that face dancing. Um, just as just as a way to describe how the chakras were influencing the way that the face uh will shift and change, depending upon where our energies are centered and within the moment. Um, and then from there we got into the acupuncture world, did a little bit of Reiki, figured out some of my own energy stuff. Um, and then light language came online later on, and that totally transformed everything.

What Channeling Is and Isn’t

SPEAKER_00 10:27

Will you what is your best explanation of what channeling is? Because I think more and more, oh, I think we are all channels, but I feel like in maybe like an arm's distance away for some people who are like that is too woo-woo and or witchcraft kind of stuff. Um, but it's not, but I haven't figured out a great way to even explain the work that I do. So, what is your best explanation for what channeling is?

SPEAKER_01 10:59

Um, my experience of channeling is when I get myself out of first person, right? And I go back into the space of the observer and I listen to whatever is there and I just transmit whatever's coming through. So, like in a video game, uh, there's the first person one, you can see the hands and we're moving around and we're engaging with the environment, or if you zoom back out one in your third person and you see your little character run around on the stage. And in the third person, you have a totally different view of the world that's around you. And you can talk about things that you don't really see in first person. Um, so my experience in getting into the channeling state is getting out of the immediate 3D perception of what's going on, going back to the space of the observer, just listening to my own thoughts and uh things that are just the collective thoughts that are going around, and then transmitting whatever that happens to be. Um, it's a very conscious piece, um, at least initially to make the shift from the first person to the third person, and then depending upon how many times I decide to step back and you know observe the observer or observe the observer observing the observer, um, then the channeling will shift and change, kind of the sphere of awareness um will shift depending upon how far back I choose to go.

SPEAKER_00 12:15

And is it always self? Or you sometimes people channel also, you know, um yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:26

So no, it's not always self, but it's it's stepping back into the observer, and now okay, I'm observing from uh a star system. So then I'm channeling from that star system, but I'm observing from that perspective, or I'm stepping back into the realm of being with a dragon, and so then I'm channeling from that perspective, uh, and that's what's coming through. So it's like, where do I choose to observe from will determine what the channel is coming from.

SPEAKER_00 12:52

And how do you see people? Do you see or know or feel that everybody has this ability? But dot dot dot.

SPEAKER_01 13:08

I think that all of us came into this world as an awareness, and then we were taught what our name is, and we were taught that we were in a certain type of a body, and we were taught what society expects us to do, and all of those teachings trained out of us the ability to do what we were innately here, which is just being an awareness who's here to experience um a 3D reality. And so we get it trained out of us. Um, so everybody has the potential to do it, but depending upon how that training happened, if it was violent or if it was parents that said, no, this is wrong, or indoctrination from a certain perspective, like a religious organization, then that's something that's not accessible to somebody as an adult, even though innately they have that ability, just because they're afraid to go open that door. They're not sure what's on that other side.

SPEAKER_00 13:55

And and you're going back to in your 20s when you were like, ah, more and more of this is coming online for me. You're learning how to trust it a little bit more. How did you practice stepping into it as truth and not like losing my mind? Or nobody's gonna understand this, or you know, those other people kind of come along with when that happens, you know? It's like, um, it's like for lack of a better word, like truth and spirit versus like the ego like mind of like, this what are you doing? People are gonna you're nuts.

Can Everyone Channel? Unlearning the Limits

SPEAKER_01 14:29

Um I've always felt like I was nuts. I've always felt like I had a perspective that was totally not embraced by the rest of the world. And that initially started with having a body that was compromised and having a completely different experience of moving through the world because everybody else could go for a hike out in the woods, and I had to make sure I had my rescue inhaler and then I had my lotion and I had all the other things, you know, tools of Western medicine that I grew up with to be able to keep myself stable. So when these other things started coming in, I was like, well, I'm already half crazy anyway, and nobody can understand what I'm saying as far as my experiences. So it just added into that space. Um, and so some of the blockages that I see other folks having, I didn't pick up so many of those because it was always like, okay, I'm just the weird guy. I'm fine with that. What does that mean and how do I show that? And yes, there's stories about what you know family says I should and shouldn't do, and you know, what my kids are comfortable with and what they're not comfortable with as far as the energetic presentations that I can show up with. Um, but it's always been an end, how do I get more true to myself?

SPEAKER_00 15:33

When you were sharing too about your backstory, um, my guest, Chris, uh, on the first podcast, she also experienced a lot of um limitations within her body first. And that was kind of this very reckoning, almost like doorway into her own spiritual awakening. Do you see that there's a connection between those who are physically here? Because I see both of you as like these incredible like masters in light. Um, that it almost feels like it's too, you can't even like put all of you in this body. Um, and so it makes sense that to come down into form, that there might be a connection between the unease of the physical body and those ailments that um I don't know, need to be transformed or looked at or seen. I don't know. Do you know what I'm trying to say here?

SPEAKER_01 16:30

Maybe I do, and I would agree. There's a space of to be able to hold an awareness that's greater, to be able to have that slightly out of focus perspective from everybody else. Um, there's an extra heat that builds up inside the system within my own case, right? And that heat and that friction of having multiple realities that this is the way that people are saying the world is, but I'm seeing that one over there, it creates an extra friction inside the physical structure as we're trying to contain as much light as possible. Um, and is it in my own case, it would uh cause cracks in the surface. Um, and every single time I'm about to go through some sort of an up-leveling, um, I always have an eczema flare. And I keep asking, like, all right, dear body, please let's we we can do an up-leveling without breaking the vessel anymore. Let's let's be more gentle on the system. And that conversation is starting to work, um, although it takes a lot of time.

SPEAKER_00 17:28

What how would you describe um like energy symptoms? You know.

SPEAKER_01 17:33

Um, in my own case, energy symptoms typically uh end up as creus, uh K-R-I-Y-A-S, which is defined to me as uh involuntary movements. So it looks like spasms. Um, usually I get uh fluttering within the abdomen. Um sometimes I'll end up with uh extra sounds that end up coming out. I'll have conversations um that I'm aware of, but something will come out that has nothing to do with what's going on around me and everything else. It's not just being stuck in my head. There's a there's a like a negotiation that's happening. There's another awareness, another bubble of reality that's that's opening up for me. Um those and then the physical piece of that you know the skin gets really itchy, uh, and it's like okay, it's crawling underneath, and there's a the the microcreas of the uh the blood moving underneath the skin that I become aware of. I usually become very aware of um physical organ functionality. Um so if I happen to have um a glass of wine with my partner, then I will actually feel my liver be in more constraint. Um and I'll feel like the processing as soon as it's done processing out the alcohol, then the liver just relaxes, and there's no concerns in that space. Um, the really large ones that I've had as far as the big upgrades have been ones that threw me into light language and I couldn't speak English for three days. Um, you know, complete body convulsions where I was totally in control. It's like I could stop this as I want to, but it actually feels really good to have the shaking. Um and having a sense of wholeness and wonder with a different vibrational state that I hadn't experienced before.

Energy Symptoms, Kriyas, and Upgrades

SPEAKER_00 19:12

Okay. So when I first started Spiritual Shit Show, it was spiritual shit show normalizing the woo. So these woo concepts are just actually like it is who we are, it's just a part of what we forgot. Um and I want to segue next. You know, some of this is like because I wish I would have had that information when I was going through it. But when um, you know, in my life things went away, dismantled. I had to really um understand what the process of like losing an identity, you know, like for so long I was Miss Julie, and this was my life, and this is who I was, and this is what I did. And then all of that kind of washed away. And I feel like now I'm in the and crossing the branch to this unknown, but I'm meeting the unknown without the fear and this like total survival grip on what once was, you know, of who I who I identified myself to be. Um but with that in that, you know, these nine, it's about to be nine years, um, which is very significant because I feel like nine is the that year of completion too. So I feel like things are really shifting. Um, but in that nine year space at the very beginning of the like the rumbling and the trembling and like the grief and the uh all that stuff, literally when I would meditate, that's like these like things like my body would just start moving or I would start shaking or my head would just want to, you know, move. And then that's when for me, uh, light language came in. But at first it came in as tones, you know, like I just wanted to sing certain tones. Um, and then I kept it very secret because I'm like, this is this, I don't know anybody who is who processes anything like this, and this is a little wild, but at the same time, it felt so like illuminating, something that I couldn't describe and explain that was happening to me, just felt so like like ah, here I am, here I am finally. But at the same time, it was very disarm, like disorienting, very disar, like it was all the things. Um, and then light language came through. Um, and then I kind of kept that on the down low. And so it's been a slow, like, I feel like a little like a mouse coming out of the house every once in a while. And I go back in, and then I come out for a little longer. Um so I guess my question to you is for me, the process of awakening and understanding, you know, the power of the body and energetics and shaking and and trembling, and then also tonals, you know, and singing, and then most of the time that leads to light language. Um what was that experience for you? I'm sure it was way quicker for you than it was for me. But then also, how would you describe it in a way that is supportive to other people who may be going through this, but suppressing it because they're like, what the heck is going on? You know, like this is not normal and this is not normal. So they suppress it. So, how can we create more of a container for the energy of it's normalizing that woo that it's actually energy moving through, or what else you have to say?

Tones to Light Language: Normalizing the Woo

SPEAKER_01 22:35

Yeah, so your experience is the normal one, right? And I had a very similar version of it. I kept light language to myself for quite some time before I started putting in my art. I didn't share any of the auditory version that I can channel um for a long time until I started talking about my art and feel like, well, what's light language? And all of a sudden out comes you know a whole paragraph. I was like, oh wait, that wasn't English, sorry about that. Um and so working in just the the shifts and the changes there. I the I the way that I tend to think of it is that in at nighttime, we don't, or I'm sorry, at nighttime is the only time that we turn on the streetlights. They don't come on during the day. But once you have one light that's been illuminated, then other ones start to light up as well. So the initial waves, the initial people that came on that um that had the challenges and kind of laid the path, uh, the pathfinders, the the path seekers, the way showers, right? We had to figure out a way to be able to make this normal first. And we had to go up against what the stories of society was telling us, what's right, what's wrong. Um, we had to go through all of the pieces of what does it mean to be illuminator, what does it mean to work with light language, what does it mean to have an awareness that's greater than what my physical eyeballs are actually holding on to, right? Being able to see the subtle little distortions within energy fields is something that's very disorienting to people. But the initial people had to be able to do that to be able to help make it normal for people that are coming on afterwards. And so the second and third wave of people that are waking up are absolutely being activated, right? And the energies that are out there in space right now are gonna have a whole other wave that's about to be activated, um, or that are actively in the process of waking up. And so they're going to have um weird tonal sounds, or they're gonna have strange movements in their body that they're not sure how to do, or where those actually come from, right? They'll have the shaking, they'll have the all the changes in their dialect, in their eyesight, uh, maybe even in their smell, and some of the ways that they're just shifting energetically around the world. And each one of us had to the each one of us has to hold the light for the next wave. Right. And as we're holding the light for the next wave, then we've got the original ones, of course, we're still working on what's the next path. Where do we have to move forward from? Um, and how do we keep everybody moving forward so that we've got the space that humanity can actually make things um much better for each other as a collective.

unknown 24:58

Right.

SPEAKER_01 24:59

I think a great way to look at this if you're looking at normalizing it, is that the human eyeball has structures in it that allow us to see magnetism, but our brain doesn't know what to do with that information. So somewhere in there, developmentally, we have the ability to see magnets or the magnetic lines that come off it, but our brain can't process it. So, what's the science behind that? What would be an evolutionary benefit of us being able to see magnetism, but the brain can't function or can't process that information? So as people are coming online, they're picking up larger and larger percentages of the known frequencies within the universe. Right? The average human body can only hold on to about 4%, or can sorry, can only perceive about 4% of the known frequencies. That's the light spectrum, that's the sound spectrum, uh, as far as the two big ones. That means that 96% of what we would define as reality from a scientific perspective, the human body can't perceive without some form of technology. But our eyeballs are hardwired to be able to see something that we can't process or comprehend. So all this process of waking up is plugging back in the things that somehow somewhere became unplugged as a species, that we're now starting to pick up other information, right? I can take my vision and turn it from physical world. Great, here's my laptop, there's the camera, there's the stairs, all the things that I've got that are in front of my field of vision, and shift it into an energetic scene. So, okay, well, now I got uh one of my little guides is sitting over there in the corner, and I can see my dog's energy pouring out from underneath uh the table, and all those fluxes are there, and it's just part of the perspective shift that I think we're all getting ready to go through.

SPEAKER_00 26:36

I think so too. So, what is the awakening process in your words that you're seeing many of us go through? Because honestly, I um I think when I first started doing this, it felt crazy because there wasn't enough talk about it. But now more and more and more and more, you know, you can, I don't know, it just it's feeling like all of it is becoming more normalized. And people are even non-believers are kind of like leaning into the possibility that we are more than what we think we are, and we have the power to heal and all of that kind of stuff. So as more and more of us are awakening, what is the actual awakening process? Like what is actually happening? What is it about?

Awakening as Perspective Shift

SPEAKER_01 27:17

It's a shifting of perspective, right? It's people taking a space and all of a sudden we were told this is the only way that the world is, this is the way, this is the box that everything's supposed to fit into. And something happens, doesn't have to be big, doesn't have to be a major event, but it's something that creates a question mark that says, well, that doesn't fit inside the box of reality that I know of. And so we're looking just slightly outside that box. And we've been told it's not safe to go outside that box, but we're shifting outside of it and trying to find a way to define this thing that that we don't have language to really define because it doesn't fit within the mold of what we were told we were supposed to be experiencing as life on this planet. And the more light that is coming on to the planet, right, um, both energetically and physically, right? The sun is much brighter now than it was when I was a kid. Um, you know, the amount of space weather that hits the planet on a regular basis is just ridiculous. I've been watching space weather for 20 years, and we're in the center of a hurricane right now as far as what's swirling around the planet, and it's all high-charged photon particles. It's all light that's coming pouring into the planet. So, what we're getting is we're getting a slightly different perspective. It's like if you pick up a new hobby, if you've never ridden a horse before, you don't know anything, you can identify a horse, but you don't know anything about it, and you say, I'm gonna go get horseback riding lessons, within a couple of weeks, your body is sore, right? And you've got a whole new set of terminology that you didn't even know existed before. Because that wasn't part of your reality. That wasn't part of your perspective about what made up the world. You knew it existed on some level, but you'd never experienced it before. And so once you get into you know uh taking care of a horse and all those things, now you got 40 words to describe what it is to be around a horse. Whereas potentially a couple weeks earlier, you had nothing other than that's a horse, it's big and it's brown. So we're just shifting our perspective and we're and we're enlarging our field of vision, right? Our field of experience in this planet, because what we're told we're supposed to be experiencing inside this box does not hold the light of the human soul. We're far too bright as energetic beings. We've got way too much energy to try to contain within our small structures. Um and as we're starting pushing against those those confines of what we were told we're supposed to experience, that's when we start shifting perspectives and realities and seeing things that weren't there before. And maybe not actual like hallucinations, but just what's outside the box? How do I define this? And that's why people are talking about it and are curious and the questioning, right? Somebody else is having experience this before me. What did they say about it?

SPEAKER_00 29:52

That's why I'm asking you.

SPEAKER_01 29:54

Right?

SPEAKER_00 29:58

Um, okay, let's say. going to art because I just can't stop seeing what's behind you too. I would say when I um started light language, um it was interesting because uh it would come in for certain people and not others. And I have one friend and we actually went to high school together. And then we um connected in 2020. She was randomly here on a work trip. And then she started what she was calling the circle. So it was um you know people it's five of us and we would practice Reiki and Reiki shares and that kind of stuff. And that having a group that I could practice and then also not that it needs validation but it was nice to enforce with validation like if something was coming in for me and then something else that same thing was coming in for somebody else it felt like it was just kind of strengthening the curiosity and the the truth and the energy of what was coming through. But my friend when we would do chairs together nothing was in English and I was talking to her like my sister but in this tone and she was like I don't know what you're saying but I can feel it in my body. I just I don't know what is happening but it feels so transformative. And I was like I don't know I mean I understand the tone I feel like I'm talking to you like a big sister and my hands are waving and I'm telling you what to do. But that's just how it's coming through and I'm trusting it. And then another time when I was teaching dance uh we were uh I wasn't making vision boards but it was something to that effect and we're just kind of doodling and I started writing light language in my picture and at the end I I was showing I didn't tell them that that's what it was and one of the girls was like I felt that and I was like what and she was like when I looked at your picture it looked like it felt like the ocean breeze blew over me like I felt that and I was like cool um so you are working same that same way it feels like it is an energetic um I like to call them like uh plugins you know like when you get like a scented toxic plug-in that you put in your room that real art with light language in it becomes like an energetic plug-in that helps amplify the space energetically but that's what I think I would completely agree with that I mean the the way that I create my art is the space of I keep working with it until my eyeballs the physical eyeballs cannot contain all of the frequency that I've put within my art and so it has a wave it has a presence it has um a push that comes off of the canvas that actually encourages people to engage with it um and there's an energetic washing that happens as well.

SPEAKER_01 32:43

And is it does it feel different in your physical body when you are speaking it versus when you are creating art with it or is it the feel the same very different right with the with the vibrations of having of using the voice and moderating that you know down from deep inside and going all the way up into nasal and the the different tones that come out I can feel the vibration in the body from that from the more somatic experience. When I'm writing it it's coming as a channel down through my hand and that's I I sense it and I'm feeling the waves coming off the paper instead of the waves resonating out of uh out of the trunk.

SPEAKER_00 33:22

When you're writing it and creating with it do you like when I first started writing it it was almost like it's not even like how I would normally write it was I think I just would start from like right to left and down almost you know that way. And I was like what is this? It feels like it felt like something that I have done before just not in this form that was kind of through like an old remembrance.

Art as Transmission: Codes and Geometry

SPEAKER_01 33:49

Yep absolutely well it it it writes in all directions. So sometimes it actually so right to left left to right up to down and vice versa uh and sometimes it writes in a circle or it writes out um or writes in um so then you'll have a code with another code with another code with another code and it will build on itself and then when you zoom out and you're actually done with whatever has been um channeled you end up with a totally different experience depending upon the the direction in which it was written and why is it important why is it coming through what is it um that's a great question. That's I contemplate that often I think that what it is is that we the human tongue lacks the ability to express the frequencies that existed long before we were here long before the planet was here right just the awareness that is um and we cannot define that we don't have the language to be able to put that out I've heard light language described as the language that humanity used to speak um before we went into the Tower of Babel when all of the all of humanity was was fractured and language became difficult so we couldn't understand each other. And it makes sense that if we're speaking in a frequency then it doesn't matter if I'm using the word apple or I'm speaking it in French or I'm speaking it in Japanese or I'm speaking it in light language. Right? This is the frequency experience of what that item happens to be. You can't lie with light language I think that's important. Because the human ego loves to lie and loves to tell stories so that we look whatever we want our facade to look like um and people that do try to because I've actually tried it like and actually have the intention and say something it's like and it it just does not come. It does not flow the way that it normally does so it's a space of humanity being able to step back into um a more authentic um expression of higher integrity of just beings being on a planet and seeing and acknowledging all of our light and not judging it but being with curiosity.

SPEAKER_02 35:55

Yeah.

unknown 35:57

Right.

SPEAKER_01 35:58

And how's the curiosity and how do we help you to shine brighter and how do I help you to shine brighter and how do we help everybody to shine brighter instead of the judgment of you're doing it this way is wrong or that way is bad.

SPEAKER_00 36:10

Yeah and or the your own personal shame and giving doubt that we just are attuned to that's what we're taught right that's what we're taught as we're going through this is bad.

SPEAKER_01 36:23

You shouldn't do this. This is what a good person does this is what a bad person does and some of those make sense let's not hurt each other or hurt ourselves but most of it is constructs of society trying to be able to be the animals don't worry about savings accounts. I mean we're the only species that pays to live on our home planet um and you know there's a there's a whole reality based around the financial system um and people work all the time for the finances and it's just a construct of what human society has decided was important.

SPEAKER_00 36:56

Yeah I have so much I wouldn't ask whining um I will say this when I so for those who are listening if you know a deeper vibration is coming on in your body it is always important to remember that if it feels like love, trust it and allow that to continue to move through. And then with that whether it's singing or like I feel like more personal self-expression and expansion is really needed. So then more of our light can continue to be seen and witnessed and sung um light language itself can be experienced through song or art or speaking or yeah but for me when it comes through for certain people and I am hesitant sometimes I'm like I think like what are what who is this person? But I know it to be true because it comes it literally comes from here and I can't control it. I I can't interfere with it and the way it is received though, it is received like the freshest breeze, you know, or some what I feel like what it does sometimes it is literally speaking to the soul of that person and not to what they want to hear or need to hear in that like their mind, their mental part of what what they think they need to hear. It's really speaking the remembrance of who you are. Don't forget it it's who you are.

SPEAKER_01 38:29

Absolutely yeah absolutely you've been doing light language a lot much longer than you knew it was light language right all the way back for your dance instruction career when you and I first met and I don't know how long ago that was but the movements that you are able to do and to channel the extra vibrational frequencies of the music itself is an expression of light language.

unknown 38:51

Right.

SPEAKER_01 38:51

And becoming comfortable with it and you're putting it in the the in the lens of dance. And then that allowed that expression to break enough out of the mold that finally you started seeing larger expressions that you couldn't quantify as just this is dance movement.

unknown 39:08

Right.

Writing Light Codes: How It Flows

SPEAKER_01 39:08

These are other these are the I need to add the tones I need to add some things that aren't smooth with the rhythm I'm hearing it's from the internal rhythm um that vibrational space. My uh first acupuncture teacher uh very first day of school said if you want to be a successful acupuncturist um you need to do three things um you know first you need to be humble if you want to succeed this isn't a hold my beer and watch this type of medicine that makes a lot of sense um second you've got to um become the medicine okay right you can't be a smoker and tell your patients not to smoke and but most importantly or much more important than first two is you got to chop off your head because this medicine doesn't care what you have stuffed between your ears it resonates out of that sacred space you have inside of your chest and so light language is coming from that space where it is sacred connection right there's a difference between us and you know a corpse that doesn't have life within it and what is that light where does that that frequency coming from and the more that we tune into that the less we are up here and the more we're down into that sacred space the lighter the bright shines the more we hear it um the more we allow it to move our system and our structure in ways that may seem really weird on the surface because of what we've seen you know other people do but it feels it's intoxicating right it feels like love it feels like a total effervescence that washes through the entire system you can and you can observe it flowing through and you feel like oh that that thing that was locked up is not locked up anymore. And all of a sudden I've got a different movement that I didn't realize was even possible within this vessel.

SPEAKER_00 40:38

Mm-hmm yeah yeah it's been a wild journey for sure um and again just for the listeners that if this is something that you're feeling a nudge towards and it you know like it's like it's when I feel the the calling it's down here you know in my belly and in my heart. So just continue to lean into it. And it's gonna require especially if you're unraveling I'm I guess what I'm trying to say is allow yourself to be in the full somatic and energetic experience of what is needing to come more online for you so you can remember who the awakening and the truth and the love of who you are. And again I want to say thank you because I literally feel like you you help while we're in the process of that ground us to the earth too. So we're not experiencing like us you know wanting to fly out of here. So I just want to also just honor that I I do see that the work that you do is very grounding so we can ascend but still stay in a very grounded real state of of witnessing and becoming thank you.

SPEAKER_01 41:42

Yeah I think the ascension process this time around is not what we've seen the ascended masters do where they disappear out of a reality. The current process of ascension is we're taking the planet with us to a new reality. So we have to stay grounded to be able to lift up our mother to be able to lift up the planet in a totally different vibrational state um than what uh our ancestors were able to even contemplate as being possible.

Why Light Language: Frequency Over Words

SPEAKER_00 42:06

I feel that in one of my sessions I heard that we are all um the doulas for self we need to stay here stay here and shine brightly yeah yeah um just gonna do a quick little time check it always goes by so fast. I do have a question then I want to talk more finish out our segment with um art but in the awakening process too what I have been able to experience and I think where I hold a little bit of like I don't want to go too far in the rabbit hole because I've seen what I've seen the path that other people have led which isn't bad. But number one, I always want to make sure that I remember that I am a human doing this that I don't become so spiritual that I think I'm not a spirit that, you know, that I'm not of this human form, that I really want to I don't want to cheat myself out of the human experience and all of the human experience even when it's tough. But I know that if I tether to the truth and the light of who I am I can experience the human experience probably with a little bit more grace, joy, fun, and embodiment and community. So that's my own personal goal. And in working with other people I feel like there are different dimensions that people work from as well. Is that true? And there's no yeah and it's not right or wrong like for um I'm a family member and she does stuff and I let her do a session session on me and I just heard very clearly like don't listen to what she's saying. If this is right this is okay but it's just not for you so I was and they were like told you not to do this anyway. So I was like okay I know I don't listen I'm here um but I got what I've been getting is again there's no right or wrong it's just a chosen point from which you want to experience energy and then ultimately though the goal is to keep kind of seeing how you can um at least align with the the highest purest source of love and all these other parts are that too but you know on everybody's individual personal journey it's not for us to know and experience what everyone else is experiencing.

Staying Human: Grounded Ascension

SPEAKER_01 44:39

Right? If you and I climb the same mountain but you're on the north side and I'm on the south side we have two completely different experiences. But we still make it to the same peak. Right? And so I can't go talk to you on the other side of the mountain and go, well how's it going over there? What's that cliff like and you go what cliff what are you talking about? Right? And so it's finding the people that are close to the trail with us that we can walk together as a collective of humanity that we all end up traveling up the mountainside together. And so the people that are on the east and the west they'll have more in relationship to us than those that are on the opposite side of the mountain and nobody is right and nobody is wrong. We just have the perspective of what we're eat what we're doing in front of us. And those that are around us are the ones that you know are the ones that are close and that we can help guide the most thank you you're welcome I'm gonna learn how to speak shorter and clear okay your art I just can can you step away so we can see what's in the center yeah so that piece is this is called Pleiadian portal um this is a painting it's four foot by five foot uh across and it's all light language throughout the whole thing. So everything from the Besica Pisces in the center um all of the lines on the spiral that are there um and each one of these orbs is nothing but light language throughout the entire piece. This is actually the third face that I've put inside the Besica Pisces it keeps shifting and changing on me as far as the uh the energy that wants to come through. But it's the uh this one comes channeled from the Pleiades itself, which is why it's has the name that it does. In that earlier in the conversation we talked about um kind of uh increasing awareness and where are you observing from so um you know star seeds are a thing people are talking about what planet or what uh star system are they from it's like well what does the planet Earth look like from Pleiades? What does it look like from our turf? Um and so then I would expand to that space and this was the frequency that came out of Pleiades for me. Pleiades are very feminine uh as far as the energetics that they have very loving and very motherly very like if you're gonna fall and you're gonna hurt your knee and it's okay we're gonna help the you know clean the wound and keep you moving forward. And I think it's really where the best of ICE comes in so strong. And then there's these energetic trees um that are uh the top of tail of the entire spiral there um all told that's about 150 hours or so of uh time with a paint I think your first happened numerous times uh or I've redone the center a couple of times so um I think it's settled on its final presentation at least it hasn't talked to me recently okay talk to me about that like when you're what is do you have a prep ritual that before you go do you are you like do you connect into the channel to allow yourself to channel the work or what is this artistic process for you and I want to know how it started um two completely different answers um the uh so artwork itself started for me as far as I I have no formal art training um all this came from uh 12 years ago my dad was given a terminal diagnosis of cancer um and I had this realization that okay I don't have a good relationship with death I've got to be able to find a way to make a relationship with it and I started drawing what I call the empty set monk um and it's basically just monk's robes as if he's sitting in Lotus position but there's no body it just the robes are in the position of the body and I drew it again and again and the aspect was looking for what's inside. Right? Dad told me who I'm supposed to be as a young man at that point in time and what does that mean? Right that stuff I saw it and I kept looking deeper and deeper into that space and through that investigation I found sacred geometry I found light language I found cosmic connections um and the way that art's working for me at this point in time is that I'll have a vision of an energetic expression that I need to create. And that usually comes somewhere within the last 20 hours of the current project that I'm working on. And so my projects are usually somewhere 100 to 200 hours as far as how long I spend working on each one of them. And right towards that end where I can just see the finish line I'll have some other awareness I'll be fascinated with something right it could be a sacred geometry it could be suddenly I'm fascinated with uh hawks is a piece that I'm uh is coming next I can feel it. Um you know there's piece like uh the orchid that's behind you I got fascinated with orchids all of a sudden and it didn't make any sense because I always think let's go do an orchid drawing but all of a sudden here's orchids that I need to be able to engage with. And then as one piece is finishing the other piece just comes online and I see the entire thing all at once. And so the channeling is taking that snapshot vision and turning it into like teasing it apart to be able to turn it into whatever is there. And now when I'm chanting the light language I'm hooking into that initial picture that I see um and fine-tuning with the light language. It really is like a tuning process of like oh I need this vibrational frequency over here and I need something different there. And then this piece here definitely has to have different light language than it does way out on the edges.

SPEAKER_00 50:07

What I am hearing is your work is I don't know what transdimensional means but energetic trans-dimensional portals for us to remember and to be wrapped around with the remembrance of all things thank you yeah one of my favorite things is when people walk this sits in my living room um when uh people walk into my house they see this thing just holy cow because it hits them because it they walk into a totally different dimension that they've never experienced before. Well and honestly just you know looking at you sitting in front of it so my eyes are there this entire thing like just being looking at it for the past 45 minutes I'm like it's shifting it's changing it it look like yeah it's very powerful.

SPEAKER_01 50:58

Thank you. One of my favorite things to do is sit and watch this at sunset because as the light processes across it and the the the uh rays of the sun shift and they change color and so the mist thing will reflect the yellows different than it does the reds than it does the purples that we'll get in our night sky or that transitional period.

SPEAKER_00 51:16

And it's quite um quite intoxicating actually do you feel like your work your own like soul mission energy work has also up leveled you like where at first it was you know um acupuncture and Reiki like you said doing energy work. And now it feels like you can do this and have the same sort of transformative um hold or you you're now opening the door for other people but it's through um beautiful art and the remembrance of light.

SPEAKER_01 51:50

That's a very yes is the short answer. I feel that not only with the light but also when I'm doing energy work in my office.

SPEAKER_02 51:58

Right.

Different Paths, Same Mountain

SPEAKER_01 51:59

When I actually am sitting starts off as cranial cycle and hands on somebody's head I see the energetic blueprint of what they're working with. And then I'll I'll tie in small little light codes across their space to be able to open up blockages or reinforced areas that have become weak. And my entire experience nowadays is almost like Neo in the matrix when all of a sudden he had uh matrix vision and everything turned green. It was going up and down and I I still get the correct colors but I can see the sparkles of energy um and I see that within the pieces of art that I create. And that's how I know that they're done because they actually sparkle within my own vision uh in the the frequencies that I'm trying to articulate um in a way that just absolutely define uh defies human language.

SPEAKER_00 52:47

Yeah yeah I'm gonna cry about it actually it feels very thank you just thank you. Absolutely absolutely let me know about that hawk one because hawks are my every time I'm really preying on something or they're just yeah they always fly so I always know I'm on the right path or I'm being blessed when the hawk comes by. So yeah we had one that we did last year that was uh a golden eagle that actually had uh the Andromeda Galaxy across its back um and that one came in from the Andromeda Galaxy itself and that sucker was that was a a lot of uh a lot of energy that was packed into that much more actually than this thing happens to be you're so you're talking a lot of more like um places in the galaxy for us to receive energy do you have any I don't want to say caution but like maybe an encouragement to keep looking forward like to not get stuck for those who are beginning to investigate these types of energies and places and terminology like starseed or light language or you know Arcturian pleat like all of that. Right.

SPEAKER_01 53:59

Most people actually had something that they were fascinated by when they were a kid right they really loved finding the Big Dipper or they really loved Greek mythology. And I think the things that or we had an imaginary unicorn or or something that was a childhood friend or even a real animal that we were just fascinated with as a kid. And I think as we're moving forward and starting to expand our awareness going back to those original things that fascinated us when we were young keeps us safe. It keeps us into the space where we can step into okay I was fascinated in Greek pathology and was really interested in that specific story. And what else does in that area and how does that vibrate with me now that I'm an adult and I can look at it through a lens of curiosity and that starts to open up a space that that holds us in a realm rather than just like all right we're gonna Google where are star seeds from great there's the Pleiades or the other things it's really the embodied piece and what's what is actually calling and speaking to the heart um is the is the beautiful way to guide ourselves through it rather than just the intellectual oh I think I'm from the star system which a lot of people get trapped into. And if they're thinking that and they're trying to force an agenda then usually the cosmic sense of humor come shows up and gives us a nice little backhand and reminds us to get back on your path.

SPEAKER_00 55:17

So I love cosmic sense of humor I enjoyed it every day. I was helping or supporting two friends last week simultaneously like text and book coming in from both of them and then I had to pause and I had to take my dog to the to the dog sitter and I just heard very clearly it was like Julie you think you're helping them but really they are showing up for you and their mastery wink wink meaning how the universe works and they're actually showing you what you need to learn about in this situation and about yourself. So just remember that I mean yes it is it is um you know of course in the conversation and you supporting them of course there's benefit in all of it and they behind all of this facade is them standing in their in their mastery the master of who they are and they are actually showing up as a very humble and beautiful teacher for you in this moment. So and it was like and this is how it works.

Pleiadian Portal: Inside the Canvas

SPEAKER_01 56:25

Yep yep absolutely I I remind myself daily that the things I catch myself saying the most throughout my day um are also the things that I probably needed to hear as well. Because I was present for the conversation and if I'm saying that repeatedly then great I gotta work on that part of my own experience um just like my the patients that find me to yeah can I ask a personal question uh because this is what something is coming up and I don't have an answer for but dragon energy have you heard of the Sophia code?

SPEAKER_00 57:01

Yes. Okay what is all of what's dragon energy?

SPEAKER_01 57:04

Uh dragons are yeah this is gonna go more into the woo than anything else. Okay. Um dragons are um keepers of ancient knowledge right ancient wisdom um for a long time they worked in partnership with humanity as we worked as uh co-creators on this planet to be able to help the frequency of the planet to be able to rise to higher and higher levels so that the planet that we call Earth was able to ascend and work through its own process of growth and learning and changes and shifts that it has to go through. And at some point in time humanity took a downturn um and we got really dark and we got really manipulated and the dragons went I can't do this anymore right we love you guys we love humanity we love the the planet that you're on and they all phased into a different dimension. So they're all around us at all times um but they're just in a in a frequency that our eyeballs can't pick them up and so all of the the dragon codes typically work with the grids that are the crystalline grids that are around the entire planet and probably these places of power a lot of those we know about already the places where we have ancient pyramids or really powerful sites that exist and they're just chalk full of dragons. I've experienced dragons my entire life I see them everywhere that I go I see them in trees um they'll they're always in clouds and this is all the way back from when I was a kid and I just thought when I was a kid dragons are kind of cool they breathe fire and they're big and you know from a wounded child's perspective they were as close to invincible as I needed them to be um but they hold a huge amount of wisdom um and I think our society's uh storytelling around them where they're just mindless beasts that come in and just you know burn fire and you know eat uh you know eat whatever the food is and kill the villagers um is is made to strip away the actual power about what dragon energy is. It's a higher level of consciousness that humans have forgotten. And we're working on being able to embrace it stronger. We're working on being able to um translate their wisdom into an actual embodied experience um both for the individual and for the collective thank you absolutely I mean I dragons are in probably 50% of my artwork um that I do and they're uh they I don't I very rarely plan on drawing a dragon I usually start drawing and a dragon comes out of the pen cool all right okay light language conference you have that or you participated that and another one is coming up yep yep so we had one that was um all three of these are through um the Conscious Awakening network um conscious awakening network.org um there was a light language conference that we did at the beginning of the summer where we got uh seven Light language practitioners from around the world. And each one of us gave both our experience with it, how depending upon the person, you know, how uh what it was like for us to be able to transform or how that changed our lives. And everybody did a transmission as well as far as expressing their individual form of light language. And I think the beauty there is that nobody sounded the same. Right. You know, some people are like, hey, yours sounds similar to mine, but it was you it's like a different dialect, even though it's like we're speaking English, but you go anywhere else in the English-speaking world and the accent is slightly different. Um, there's another light language conference that's coming up, uh, also through the Conscious Awakening Network that happens to be on the 18th and 19th of October. Um, and then I was just asked um earlier today actually to be in another one in December, it's specifically on Dragons and the Crystalline grid. Um, so thank you for that stepway. Um and that will also be on the uh um on the Conscious Awakening Network once that one's up and ready to go.

Death, Vision, and the Birth of Art

SPEAKER_00 1:00:59

Awesome. And then where can we uh find your artwork?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:03

Uh so my artwork is uh I've got uh um online, we've got Instagram. Uh I'm at Brian C Mirrors, V-R-I-A-N, C isn't Charlie, mirrors M-E-A-R-S. And my website is the same, BriancMirrors.com, uh, where I have most of my artwork scanned. This one actually is not, um, because it's I have to make sure that it's settled in the final expression of what it wants to be. Um, but certainly the one that's there behind you uh is up there along with, I think I've got over 100 pieces there now.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:34

I'm gonna get it closer to the screen so people can see.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:39

Yeah.

unknown 1:01:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:43

That one itself was uh, I mean, if you look, there's light codes that are going all the way around it on those outer circles. Um and then the uh, and then within each one of those little cells of the toroid field, there's some light language pieces, uh, and it's also on the crystals, and the uh the orc is in the center there. Um yeah, uh that piece of it's uh the radiance that comes off of that rainbow.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:07

I know, I know.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:12

It's like the more you look at it and are with it and view it, you literally can feel a shift inside happening.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:21

Yeah, yeah. Well, and if you take that as a meditation, and either you start at the extremities and you move to the center or go the opposite direction, right? And just allow your eyes to follow wherever line you're on, whatever light coat is there. And if it's interesting, then we pause and we focus on it for a moment. It just becomes a meditation uh through the artwork itself. Um, and everybody that I've ever mentioned that to has always said that it's it's awakened something within them.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:48

Well, thank you so much for the work that you do. Thank you for all of the patient and compassionate space that you have held for me um through the messy times in my life. And is there one thing that you would want people to know and or remember?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:09

Um It's been an honor to work with you, Julie. And thank you for holding the space that's there. Um and just being willing to work down the path that you're going now. Um, I think the things that are the best for us to remember as humans, that we are all humans and we're all on the same path. Um, as far as trying to figure out the best and most authentic expression of ourselves. Um so spending the time to be able to connect with who we are, not who we told we're supposed to be, but who we are, uh, and allowing that to illuminate brilliantly through every single day helps to guide each one of us forward in our own little steps. Throughout the judgment, replace it with curiosity, right? Why do I do the things that I do? Why do I think the way that I think? Is it actually me or is it something I was told was important? Um, and just looking at life through a lens of curiosity um helps us to illuminate our innate gifts um of just enjoying this beautiful world that we live upon.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:06

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:08

You're very welcome. Thank you. It's been a pleasure.