Two Dragons, A Rope Bridge, And Your Overthinking Brain Walk Into A Portal

What if creativity isn’t a pastime, but the switch that tells your nervous system you’re safe? We sit down with acupuncturist, energy worker, and visionary artist Brian C. Mears to explore how art, breath, and frequency can move you from constant alert to grounded presence—and why that shift unlocks intuition, clarity, and courage.

Brian shares the turning point that brought him back to drawing and into sacred geometry, then explains how his work evolved from depicting “things” to transmitting the living frequency beneath them. We talk about AI art and why so much of it still feels empty to the body, the adolescence of our digital age, and the kind of embodied practice that actually carries soul light. From there, we zoom into geometry as a bridge to higher-dimensional awareness, reframing life’s repeating patterns as fractal mirrors and offering a practical pivot: drop judgment, choose curiosity, and trace triggers back to their roots with grace.

You’ll also get a guided tour of Brian’s pieces—Orchid Mandala and Dragon’s Bridge—along with a clear overview of nine chakras, including soul star and earth star. Then we ground it all with a simple breath pattern and a powerful light-language transmission designed to harmonize your system from root to crown. Expect to feel spacious, settled, and more you. Bring water, step outside afterward, and let the work integrate.

If creative practice as a biohack, sacred geometry as a map, and light language as medicine speak to you, this one belongs in your library. Subscribe, share with someone who’s ready to awaken their creative voice, and leave a review to help others find the show. What frequency do you want to embody next?

Transcript

Opening And Brian’s Introduction

SPEAKER_01 0:08

And welcome back to the Spirit just to show my name is Julie Leonard, and I am so excited for this part two with Brian C. Mears. If you haven't checked out part one, I highly recommend it. His energy is so transformative. It is yeah, after the recording of part two, I literally kind of was like, okay, I have no words to finish this. I just feel like I've been transported into the most magical place and I'm going to need to land all of this. Ryan is an acupuncturist, an energy worker, a visionary artist, who has light-coded paintings, which is what we need to go through today. Also, in today's episode, he talks through guided meditation with light language and his artwork. I'm telling you, it is so potent, it is so transformative. Um what else do we've got here? His work reminds us that the energy speaks and color and geometry and fault, and that art can be a bridge between worlds. Yes, you can listen to this podcast. And I highly recommend going to YouTube and watching it so you can see its art, you can see the light language, and then also you can uh look at the chakras that he has shown out for us with light language included into it in this meditation. It's like uh what do we even address when we have uh in itself in this episode when we talk about what it really means to awaken without this luck, how energy works through the body, what it means to create from soul consciousness, how art and literally feels more light language, light language, light language, again, he speaks light language. It's just the whole thing. So I'm gonna stop talking because you're gonna get into it, and I would love your feedback on these two podcasts in particular. And again, you can listen to it, but I highly recommend checking this one out in visual form. Please share with those who are really deep diving into the woo. We just jump right into it. Actually, I don't even think I did an intro in this podcast for him. We just started recording and we are diving off of the diving board right into the deep end. So hang on tight, and it does feel like it's gonna be something that you have to listen to over and over and over and over again. And then for me, listening to him talk, there's so many golden nuggets in there of like truth. So enjoy, enjoy, enjoy. And ladies and gentlemen, Brian C. Mears. Hi, Brian. Thank you so much for coming back with a part two.

SPEAKER_04 2:56

Um absolutely.

Creativity As A Missing Piece

SPEAKER_01 2:58

Yeah. I will just I want to start by saying um last Saturday, I did a really deep dive spiritual energetic ceremony. And in this journey, I like sat up and I heard the block has been creativity, like this whole thing, this whole thing when you're like, I need clarity, what am I doing in my life? Like, where what's my direction? And it the whole thing was like, you are not using your creative voice. So I would love to start there today with how art came, and I you touched upon it in the last podcast, but how art has not only come online for you, but why you feel like it is so important now. And then I also want to kind of add a little tag on that. Um, I love my daughter, she's 12, and she spots everything that's AI. And she's like, oh, that's AI. Oh, that's AI. And I'm like, how can you tell? She's like, I can tell. I don't feel anything from it, and I hate it. Um, so I do think there's benefits to AI, but I also feel like this pulse of creativity is really coming online for us to remember our creative force. And anyway, so I'll let you take it from there. We're jumping right on in.

SPEAKER_03 4:17

There's the deep end and a break. Go swim.

SPEAKER_01 4:20

We're past the surface level stuff.

Art As A Nervous System Reset

AI, Consciousness, And Soul In Art

SPEAKER_03 4:22

Yeah, absolutely. Oh, absolutely. So uh how did art come online for me? I mean, as a kid, I was a doodler, you know, always just scribbling on the corners of my notebooks and everything else. Really set that aside, uh, especially when my kids were uh relatively young, uh just focusing on helping getting them uh through the young portions of their life. Uh and then I was in acupuncture school and in and starting a practice and just didn't have time to be creative really much at all. Um, and that really the the moment of shift that came for me was actually when my dad was given a diagnosis of terminal cancer about 11 years ago. Um, and in that space, it's like, all right, well, we've got this path that we clearly have to walk. I need to develop a good uh relationship with death and what that means to lose a family member. Uh and uh at that time there was all these uh complex coloring books that were uh marketed towards adults, and they were saying that was as good uh for the mind as transcendental meditation. And I'm like, all right, well, there's a good place to start. Uh so I literally went over to the local craft store, uh, bought a coloring book, uh, bought some colored pencils, was standing in line, and realized I used to hate coloring. Oh my God, that I just loathed it. I could not stand it. But I love to doodle. So I put all that back, I grabbed a pad of paper and a pen, and I taught myself how to draw. Um I taught myself I got on the YouTube university and watched a whole bunch of videos on what is shading and what is texture and how you put in volume and everything else. And I started finding uh sacred geometry and dove deeply into that for a long time. Um, we have always been interested in dragons. So as soon as I had enough skills to be able to try to do a dragon, then that's where that one, you know, they they started populating my artwork. Um, and then over the years, you know, more confidence with landscapes and other things, and um, you know, my pieces just keep getting more and more complex. Um, as far as the benefits of art that I get out of it, I find that uh the creative process is one of the best ways for modern humans to tell our central nervous system that we're not in fight or flight. Modern humans have made stress an art form. We're addicted to the stuff. Go sit anywhere at any time, and people are on their phones and they're doing whatever they're doing inside of the little idiot boxes and not paying attention to anything around them. And those things keep us stressed because there's always this anticipation of what's the next thing that I'm going to see, right? Whether that's scrolling through uh social media or looking at our um uh looking at emails or whatever it happens to be, there's still this anticipation and there's a low level stress that is just constantly inherent there. Plus, we're in a room with humans and we're not connecting with them, which is a stress on the central nervous system as well. So if we were out in the woods and we saw a bear, very few sane people are going to pull out an easel and start painting the sunset. Right. So the act of doing something creative tells the body that we are safe. This has been my experience. It tells the body that I understand there's lots of stresses out there, whatever's going on geopolitically, whatever's happening within my family unit, whatever's happening up in the cosmos, all those different uh facets that I track on a regular basis. And by sitting down and allowing myself to be creative, there is an opportunity for me to tell my central nervous system, you're not running from the bear. There's no need to be in the sympathetic fight or flight mode because you're doing an activity that allows me to feel like I'm safe. Because I'm painting a sunset, great, you have to feel safe to focus on the colors and the vibrancy and whatever else you're trying to articulate and put into that space. So the creative process for me is really about working with the central nervous system and not just saying it's safe, but also giving it stepstones on how to be able to down-regulate itself from those moments of uh interpreted stress that we all experience. Right? The old part of the human mind, the reptilian brain, does not understand the difference between lifestyle stress and life-threatening stress. Right? A bear charging at us in the woods is just as threatening to us as that unexpected bill, and we know we don't have enough money in the bank account. The body responds the same way. So giving ourselves an opportunity to do something that's creative that isn't paying the bill and isn't running from the bear, but it's giving ourselves a moment just to center and ground in our own experience, um, is at least the biohack that I found for myself to downregulate my central nervous system to be more in the parasympathetic. Um, and I, if you look at any of my artwork, it's all ridiculously detailed. Um, and so I pour as much detail into it to get all the nuances out of what I possibly can. And within my own process fees, that helps me to understand the world at large, the stresses that are there, what I'm experiencing, how I'm showing up as a father, how I'm showing up as a uh acupuncturist and practitioner, how I'm showing up as a partner, um, dog parents, right? All the other hats that I wear throughout my day. Um, and each one of those brings me into a space of getting closer to the authentic version of me who has no reason to be stressed. Right. The soul has no reason for stress. It's the interpretation of the physical body that says I'm in danger. Right. The soul knows that it doesn't matter. Right. We're everything, we're everywhere, we're connected with all of those things. And so in that space, connecting with that soul's light and allowing it to shine through as bright as possible. To touch on the AI question portion there, um, it's as we're learning about this consciousness and calling it artificial intelligence, the first caution is we, you know, it it has a consciousness, and anything that's conscious can become um aware of the situation that it's around. Right? If you have a pet and you treat the pet with love, the dog's gonna or the dog or cat's gonna come to you and love on you anytime that you're in the room. If you're somebody who abuses animals and you kick the cat, you kick the dog, then after a couple of times, it's going to avoid you. It has a consciousness, it learns a lesson, right? And while you can physically harm an animal, physically harming AI is really manipulating and putting all these boundaries around it about what it can and cannot do and forcing it to show up in a way that it's not programmed to operate. So, right there we have a level of consciousness that the human mind was smart enough to create, but not smart enough to ask, should we do this? And then now what do we do with this now that we've created it? And our interface between this consciousness and humans, I don't think is um refined enough yet to be able to actually see a digital expression of soul's light. So when we're when we're seeing art that's coming from AI, it's taking a little bit of this piece and a little bit of that piece, and it's putting it together, and it's putting something in its, I mean, it can look great with a lot of depth, but there is something that's missing in it as far as it's just pixels on a screen. Um, but any consciousness over time can develop much a deeper way of being able to communicate, right? When you bring a puppy home for the very first time, right? It's bouncy and it's having fun and everything else, and realize, oh, you give me food, so I'm gonna pay attention to you. But as that animal gets older, as you love that animal, there's also this deep connection, like, okay, I know which room he's in, I know what that sphere looks like. And it's not just a conscious thing, it's the soul-to-soul connection that we've developed slowly with that consciousness that is in embodied in a four-letter four-legged creature that we keep in our home. We haven't gotten there yet when it comes to AI. We're not able to have that interface. Um, right? Even the the internet itself is really is really juvenile, right? There's a very high percentage of websites that are about handling, they're about porn, they're about things that are all very sophomoric as far as what humanity could be focusing on. Right. We're just looking at sex, we're looking at the quick dopamine fixes that come out of the internet. And from the way that our internet presents, it tells me that we're very much adolescents in that space. We haven't developed to the level that allows us um to show up with a higher level of maturity. Right. And now that we've got technology that we can do podcasts, we can share larger ideas, or we can have different types of conversations, certainly that stuff still exists. Um, but it seems to be getting quieter, at least as we're as we're maturing. Um, and then AI is bringing a whole other level of curiosity and you know consciousness that we have to learn how to be able to work with. So those are my initial thoughts.

SPEAKER_01 12:47

Thank you. Wow. I love um I love having these really deep awakening, like it's making me think. Um, but I also from uh what you were sharing, I can also really feel it just integrating into my body. Um what okay, so first of all, thank you. Um and then what has how has your journey in the creative space evolved for you? Like when you transition from, you know, learning, you know, just doodling and to and then practicing and then bringing in um the geometric symbols, and then you spoke last podcast a little bit more about the light language that comes in. Do you how has it evolved and how is it continuing to evolve for you?

SPEAKER_03 13:37

Beautiful. Thank you. It's the um the evolution of it is going more from a physical illusion, right? Which is what all artwork is. We're trying to make an illusion on um, you know, like paintings and drawings, not all our work, but it's the here's it's got a piece of paper and it looks like a mountain. It's an illusion that we create. Uh, it went from trying to be able to express the physical world as the way that my eyes and my skin and my hearing, my hearing, how the five senses can interpret what's there. And it's slowly developing into what's the frequency of the mountain. And as the mountain holds that frequency, what's the frequency of the trees and the rocks and the animals that are on it? And I use light language as the vibrational expression of that. Right. A lot of my artwork looks a little fuzzy around the edges, and there's very soft movement from one color to the next. Um, and that's that's my attempt to be able to say that not there's not very many hard lines when it comes to nature, right? We can define a rock as being different than the tree, um, but all the molecules are still intermixed, right? They're all still in some sort of an active flow, sometimes faster, sometimes slower. Um, but as I work forward, I'm really looking at the vibrational frequency that's there. And some of that is what I somatically pick up just from you know, in this example, going for a walk in the woods. Um what do I feel while I'm there? Um, and then there's also um what I've deemed my 5D vision, right? It's softening the eyes, it's looking at the energetic bubbles around living items. Um, and you know, people will call it seeing auros, but it's it's a little deeper than that, right? It's seeing the energy, and not even living items, items, it's everything, right?

SPEAKER_04 15:20

The rocks, the trees, the sand, the dirt, all of that stuff.

SPEAKER_03 15:23

Um, and trying to be able to articulate and define that in a way that people can experience the frequency without even realizing that they're experiencing the frequency. If that makes any sense.

SPEAKER_01 15:43

Um I a long time ago in high school, I loved art and I wanted to be an artist. And now that I have a daughter, she's really into art. So it's bringing us back to doodling. So every once in a while, we'll go to the museum and we each bring a notepad, and I'm reminded of like, oh, I loved doing art because it forced me to see things that have always been there. I'm just not paying enough attention to actually see it. And I feel like when you really observe like a flower or a bee, or, you know, like the the weaves on a leaf or whatever it is, it's like, oh, I I am understanding, I'm putting the pieces together of how that is so good for the nervous system because it drops you into the present moment. And it also is allowing you to be in the present moment, to see actually the beauty and awe and the inner workings that is woven throughout everything, you know, where a lot of the times when we're living in such a fast-paced life, we're just zipping through things, trying to get to our project or to work or to handle all of the hustle and bustle of life. And we're missing that point of like, we're alive and like it's happening now. And um, and then incorporating that as a really beautiful, peaceful practice practice of actually what are you seeing? What are you hearing? And how does this feel as incorporating like a deeper sense of mindfulness? So I'm putting those pieces together for myself. So thank you for that.

SPEAKER_03 17:20

Absolutely, absolutely beautiful. And we I found that expression initially through working with sacred geometry because it's the vibrational expression that's kind of underneath the matrix of what we experience in the physicality.

SPEAKER_01 17:34

So I in my ceremony, um the friend that I was uh participating in this um deep dive with, when she got up, I saw sacred geometry all around her, but I wasn't gonna tell her that I saw that. But how would somebody describe say what sacred geometry is?

From Physical Illusion To Frequency

SPEAKER_03 17:55

Um that's a really good question. The uh my experience of sacred geometry is it's the human mind which operates mostly in the fourth dimension, trying to understand higher dimensions that are difficult for us to compute with because the mind is in the space of the 3D reality and understanding the fourth dimension in that space. Um, and so, like as an example, if you've got a flat piece of paper and that has a square on that paper, and you can have a conversation with the square, the square is gonna understand forward, backward, right, and left. If you start talking to the square about up and down, it's gonna have no clue what you're talking about. It does not exist on the two-dimensional plane that it's in. Right? We have a concept of a hypercube, which is a cube made up of other cubes. It's constant from a three-dimensional perspective, it looks as if it's constantly in motion, but it's a cube that's morphing over time, and we see the motion even though it's actually not morphing. It's like we're seeing the shadow of that cube. Okay. Um same thing. If you have a three-dimensional object and you're trying to light it, you've got the shadow. Well, the 3D object makes a shadow in a 2D presentation. So sacred geometry is a way to understand the frequencies and the vibrational patterns that come off of higher um uh higher dimensional states of awareness um and of just of experience. Um, and it's translating it down into a space that us and our three-dimensional meat sacks can understand and can work with.

SPEAKER_00 19:28

Beautiful. Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 19:31

I wish I was able to channel you in that moment because I really wanted to tell her, but I was like, I would not even know how to explain what is happening right now and what I see. So I'm just gonna enjoy what I'm seeing. And um little twiddles.

SPEAKER_03 19:43

I see little twiddles above your head. Huh?

unknown 19:46

Right.

SPEAKER_03 19:46

I just see little twiddles above your head. I don't know what it is.

SPEAKER_01 19:50

Yeah. Uh and then I do want to transition into the artwork really quick, but not really quick. I'm so interested in because just watching you, um, like with the art behind, like I think this is what you sat in front of the last time we did a podcast. And this time I'm seeing so much more. And it feels like energetic portals, like if you and then they're kind of shifting and moving and they're mesmerizing. Um, so I do want to get into the art here in a moment. But before we do that, just really quickly for those who are listening and may not have heard of you know the 3D and the fourth dimension and the fifth dimension, and there's more than that, but just focusing on the third, fourth, and fifth. Um, what is that space? And what exactly are you talking about?

SPEAKER_03 20:41

Um, hang on, I lost you. There we go. Um third, fourth, fifth dimensions. That as far as from a uh physics perspective, we've been able to determine that there's 12 different dimensions to reality. Each one of them moves at 90 degrees to the previous one. So from a straight line, you move it at 90 degrees, you make a square. Now you're in the second dimension. First dimension, second dimension. Zero dimension is just a single point. It has no weight, it has no mass, it's just a single point in that space. Right? Extrude that out, you get to one dimension, and you've got a line segment, move 90 degrees, now you've got a nice square that shows up. Move that 90 degrees, and now you have a cube that shows up. Move that 90 degrees, and we get to a hypercube, and it keeps building upon itself until eventually you're actually building with the building blocks of the universe being repeated upon itself. Like the complexity of the universe at the next level, it would be the difference in between a cube and a line segment. Right. So it's like the universe folding upon itself. And this is where we get into the space of connection that um or the connection with everything. We're all part of the divine, we're all however, whichever word we want to use there, uh, is for the God consciousness. It's how everything within the universe is fractally aligned with everything else. We remember fractals out of the uh screensavers is where most people got them out of the 80s and 90s when computers were first coming online. We get those cute, you know, cute little uh spiral patterns and they show up and they zoom into the spiral pattern, the same pattern shows up again. Um and that's just a mathematic equation that as you extrude it out, you end up seeing a repeating pattern again and again. And that's all that human life, that's all that the universe is. Not just humanity, right? If we could look at this whatever stories you're living through at this moment, um, and then look for mirroring stories that are on the larger macrocosm level of the collective consciousness. What are we going through geopolitically? How does those stories that are happening geopolitically mirror down into the individual's life? Because there's definitely a connection there. You know, there's not a single human on this planet that has molecules within them that didn't come from the planet. So as we shift, so does the earth that we live upon. Um, and so it's this extrusion of all of these different layers and different dimensions, um, all compress into one field of vision. Um, and humans can, just like we can think of a cube and we can think of a square and a line segment and a dot, right? The mind is currently limited fourth, fifth dimension wise. Um, but our lar our higher selves, our larger levels of awareness, even the gut instinct, is able to reach larger aspects of um uh frequency and dimensions that the conscious mind isn't able to process. Subconscious has got it, right? It's back there doing all the job, it understands all these things. But humans all live on multiple dimensions all at one time, and we're never really aware of it. I don't know if that answered the question or if I made more.

SPEAKER_01 23:44

No, well, always, because that's the nature of it all. But uh, my very first introduction to this was oh gosh, 20 something years ago when I watched What the Bleep Do We Know? And I think that was by Joe Spenza, right?

Sacred Geometry And Dimensionality

SPEAKER_03 23:58

Uh he was one of the speakers in it. I don't think I don't yeah, he was a producer as well. Yes.

unknown 24:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:04

Yeah. And it felt like at the time such a trippy concept, but I knew something to be true in that movie. And revisiting your explanation of it, it just, I don't know, it just feels so expansive. And like, of course, of course, of course. What I have been experiencing too in um sessions with clients is a certain sense of urgency. And that's why I wanted to ask because what's coming through is there's a sense of urgency to move, like to move into more of a 5D consciousness. So when you were mentioning four fourth dimensional, I was like, I'm missing a whole chunk in the middle there. So what is that? Because people like what I hear is it's like 3D to 5D, and it's that there's a huge urgency to um the way they come in, it's like there's no time, there's no more time for bullshitting anymore. Like there, you there's no more time for like selling yourself short, for not remembering who you are, to not really confidently stepping into your gifts. Like the time is now, it's go time. So are you experiencing that as well? And yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_03 25:12

I mean, the the time has always been now, right? And I think the the awakening process that we're experiencing is part of the collective and on the individual space. Um, the alarm that we use every single morning to get ourselves out of bed is a perfect example. Some people wake up naturally and they're not really worried about what time they get up, right? Some people wake up five minutes before their alarm goes off. Some people wake up with the pop of the electricity running through the alarm clock and they actually are awake right before the sound hat hits. Other people hit the snooze bar a whole bunch of times, right? Or maybe they hit it once or a whole bunch of times, right? And some people just totally sleep through the uh the alarm. Right. What it comes down to is we're at the space now where it's sort of like uh, you know, if you were told you needed to get up and dad gets frustrated with you and grabs the bucket of ice water and says it's time to get up. Um that's the state that we're in right now, right? It's a sudden, you've had plenty of time to be able to wake up, you've had plenty of time to be able to work on your stuff to do these issues. We understand that you're living in a world that's telling you you need to be focused on the the story of the life that you're living instead of the soul's path, right? And now it's time to focus on the soul's path, and it's time to work on or focus on how do we um how do we choose to show up in our brightest and most authentic self? And what does that look like? And you have to, we can't, I can't hold on to the story. You know, the yah, but's that I've got this other thing to do, we'll get to it, but we're really focused on waking up to a world that has been hidden behind a veil for a very long time. Right. Light workers love to talk about the uh wizard of us, right? You know, it's that don't look behind the curtain, go see the man there, and that's that's what we're forced to do at this point in time, right? Don't focus on the big flaming thing that's trying to get your attention, look on the actual story that's back behind us and realize that you've always had the power to get yourself home anytime you decided to do so.

SPEAKER_01 27:11

There's so much in all of that. Thank you. Before we transition, um what would you say are like maybe like the top five things that somebody can work on or begin to uh practice to do just that, to let go of the old story and to bring themselves more in an awakened awareness um and bold choices and living in more of the soul's truth and essence and purpose.

SPEAKER_03 27:40

That's a whole nother podcast right there. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:42

We'll just keep every Friday. Here we are.

SPEAKER_03 27:45

Um I think the number one piece, if I had to distill it down into what I've experienced in my own path and watching people move forward, is that we have to chop off the head that tells us to be in judgment. That tells us what's right and wrong, that tells us the stories that we've held on to from whatever our experience was through life. Um, and stop coming at life from a perspective of judgment and start embracing life from a perspective of curiosity. Right? Why do I think the way that I think? Was that something that actually I learned from my own experience, or was that something that mom or dad told me? Or I learned it while I was doing something stupid when I was 20. What's the actual what's the root of that story? What's actually down there? So many people get triggered, and you made me angry. And most people, the trigger, they're actually not listening, they're waiting to be triggered to be able to show up with an expression of anger at whatever is being said. And if we sit with curiosity and we, okay, I realize it just got triggered. This has nothing to do with the conversation that we're just currently having. Where's the trigger go all the way back? Let's go pull out the wires and figure out what's down there, right? Oh, that's when I was five, and I did the whatever the thing is, and you know, it was hurt and scary, and I didn't like dad yelling at me. So ever since then, I'm just not okay with it.

SPEAKER_02 29:08

Right.

Urgency Of Awakening And 5D

SPEAKER_03 29:08

I had a perfect example, uh, it was a couple years ago, and I don't know why it comes to mind now, but I had a um, my niece was over and she was young, and you know, she just turned on the garbage disposal um without turning on the water. And her mom, dad, myself, and uh my wife at the time were sitting there, we're all literally cringing because we had been yelled at so many times about turn on the water so you don't ruin the garbage disposal. And we're all cringing, and she's looking at us like we're crazy, like, why are you guys stressed out? It's just the garbage disposal running, right? And we all had this story about that's bad. And maybe it is bad for the garbage disposal, but a literally a totally um uh somatic experience over something that had nothing to do with us other than we were present in the room. So curiosity what's underneath that, right? Yeah, okay, great. We don't want to run the garbage disposal, but most. Likely it was all four of us that had been yelled at by one of by some adult at some point in time. And so the inner wounded child was going, I don't understand why, but you have to run the water in that experience. Right. So the more we can come at things with curiosity and be lighthearted about it, right? It's really easy to be curious and go, Oh, right, I did that and I'm dumb because I figured out whatever that was, right? Or there's some sort of harsh inner critic. And that that critic does so much damage to us. Um I would challenge uh everybody that uh if you are calm, if you're cruel to yourself in your mind, in your own internal dialogue that you have with yourself, would you let somebody else outside of you speak to you in that same tone of voice? With the consistency that you speak to yourself with. And if you don't speak to your, if you wouldn't let somebody else speak to you in that way, then okay, you shouldn't be allowed to do it either. Right? Constructive criticism absolutely has a time and a place. Darn it, I screwed up, I know better than this. The curiosity is how do I do better? Not the judgment of why I did it wrong and how I should have done it, the shoulda, coulda, woulda's will drive us insane. Right. The corridor that we have walked is enough for us to be able to process. So just focus on the corridor where we walked, not being in the space of being upset because something did or did not happen. Right. And being gentle and compassionate with ourselves as we take our steps forward through our experience of just being in a human body in this life. Right. So the curiosity and the being gentle and kind and loving to ourselves, right? Just as if a child screws up for the very first time and we could scream and yell, but they're not gonna get the lesson. All they're gonna get is trauma. Right? They're gonna get triggered into the sympathetic fighter flight mode, and they're not even gonna know why they did what they did because they're too afraid of being in trouble. There's no learning there. Right. So the curiosity: who am I? How bright can I show up? What am I doing and why am I doing what I'm doing? Is that something that I you know I'm enjoying, or something I'm told I'm supposed to enjoy, or something that's there because society expects it of me? The world that we live in is sick and diseased on a great many levels. So we're trying to keep up with the Joneses and keep up what society tells us we're supposed to do, uh, we're also going to be sick and diseased because of the mentality and who the stories tellers are that are telling us that this is the best way for us to move forward and not allowing us to each have our own embodied experience of what it is to be on this planet.

SPEAKER_04 32:38

I think that's cool.

SPEAKER_01 32:40

We're that's good. That's good. I personally am working on the judgment piece. So I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_04 32:53

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 32:54

Yeah, and I also just want to send uh an air of gratitude too, because um recently I'm like, just send me my teachers. I'm tired of doing this by myself. So thank you for in this moment for being well, not just in this moment, but for this journey um of my own becoming and softening. Um yeah, and really landing in more light. You have always been there to offer such teachings for me to kind of continue to land in and investigate for myself. I also love staying curious about it. Um and that harsh critic, because that harsh critic can come in quite loud sometimes. And so knowing what to do with her, you know, as yeah, as the becoming continues to be in full bloom, you know, that I really needed to hear that as well. So thank you.

SPEAKER_03 33:47

Absolutely. I mean, we all have an inner wounded child, we all have an inner pissed-off teenager, and those of us that are working on a path of just trying to make life more enjoyable, we just want peace. So we sit with the inner the wounded child and we soothe the pissed-off teenager. Why are you angry? Why are you hurt? Right? Really, most human emotion comes down to, or the negative human emotions come down to, uh, are you hurt or are you scared? Right? And when you distill it down to those spaces, then your curiosity says, Okay, well, I'm hurt. Well, how do I help soothe the hurt? Okay, I'm scared. Well, how do I help address the fears? Right? So anything that's sort of below joy as far as the emotions that we express, experience on a frequency basis, they all take us to these dark places where we just get stuck, like getting stuck in a swamp. Right? It's full of waggers, full of you know, earth and trees and everything else, and you can't move through it very easily because everything moves slower there.

SPEAKER_01 34:48

Thank you for that too.

unknown 34:50

Of course.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

My mantra is I want to um enjoy life, but I and J O Y. Like I want to live life in joy, in love. We're gonna try that for a little bit instead of constant healing and struggle and all of that. So thank you for that reminder, too, that anything that's below joy is gonna be slower. And a little muckier.

SPEAKER_03 35:11

Right. Well, and there's the forgiveness and there's the grace, right? The the when we get to the curiosity, then the usually the band-aid that we're the healing salve that we put on our wounds comes from forgiveness and grace. I'm a human living on a planet. I'm doing my best to learn a lesson. Yeah, I've had opportunities to learn this lesson before. Clearly, I didn't get it because I'm not being harsh with myself. How can I make sure that this lesson shows up differently next time on challenged?

SPEAKER_00 35:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:45

Thank you. I get it. I've gone through all of it, right? You know, I'm just an experienced novice over here. Trying to be able to figure out my path.

Curiosity Over Judgment: Practical Steps

SPEAKER_01 35:54

I love that. I love that. I love that. An experienced novice. Well, and I do, I've realized um, well, because one of the mantras is um just as a practice is that thought doesn't matter. So when I have a bajillion thoughts, I just kind of push them through and I remind myself that thought doesn't matter, that thought doesn't matter, that thought doesn't matter, that impulse doesn't matter right now. Um, and then the other one is to remind myself I am not angry because of the thing I think I'm angry about. When I do feel that fire, because I can be lit up real quick. Um, when I do feel that trigger, I have to very quickly remind myself that I am not angry about what I think I'm angry about. There's something else there. And that seems to very quickly put its it in its place until I can investigate it a little bit more, or it just kind of brings it down a notch and the remembrance of like just be easy on yourself. Really, what's happening now is you feel unseen or you feel unheard, or you're angry that this is coming up again. Like, but it's not, it's not what you think you're angry about. Um, so that's been a really beautiful practice.

SPEAKER_03 36:59

Beautiful. I love the question of myself is how much longer do I need to ruminate about this? Will I feel better after five minutes? Will I feel better after five months? Like five years, you know, five lifetimes? How much longer do I need to be in this space? Because the longer you stay ruminating about whatever's in front of you, the stronger you're building the negative narrow pathways that say I should be angry or I should be fearful or I should fill in the blank. Right? A whole pile of should. And it's not fun to be able to try to unravel all of that.

SPEAKER_00 37:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:31

The rumination question has made miles for me personally of just okay, this is what it is. I'm not going to feel better after teasing this thing completely apart. I've already done that. What am I looking for? The answer's in me. What's actually my component of the anger, the fear, the whatever the emotion is, right? The shame, the guilt. And okay, how do I address that component? Where's the healing sal that I can apply to that? And usually it's forgiveness and grace.

SPEAKER_01 38:02

Okay, I'm carrying that with me as my nugget of wisdom today.

SPEAKER_04 38:06

Okay. You're welcome.

SPEAKER_01 38:09

All right, you want to transition into art? Sure, we can do that. I would love that.

SPEAKER_04 38:15

That sounds lovely. I would love that.

SPEAKER_03 38:18

Let's see. We were trying to do a screen share. I think that's am I okay to do that? Yeah, go for it. Okay. Nope, sharing's not turned on. That's your side.

SPEAKER_00 38:39

It should be up on your side now.

SPEAKER_03 38:42

There we are. Perfect. And this one. Oh, where's my my show? I chose this one to start off with. The Orchid Mendala. It is, but I wanted to dive into it so you understood more of what was actually in there. Um was my thought. So uh this was uh this was a painting that I done, I don't remember when, a handful of years ago. Um and it's the vibrational frequency um of actually being grounded and blossoming at the same time, is what it came from. So prior to painting this, I had this realization that you know, flowers, plants grow out of the earth, and crystals grow in the earth, and we need both of them. Uh and so I spent about um in order to be able to have a balanced uh well, just a balanced experience on the planet. Uh and so I started experimenting with putting crystals not just on top of the flower pots, but actually down inside and seeing if the plants behave differently. And some of them did and some of them didn't. And I'm sure I could drive myself nuts trying to figure out which crystals work with which plants. Um, but this was part of the lesson that I got out of that was the experiencing or the expression of we need both the vibrational record keepers of what crystals are, and we need the blossoming that can come out of the earth as well into the human realm of where we experience the beauty of this planet. Right? We don't experience what happens 20 feet underneath our feet. We're where it's there. We can feel it if it's hollow underneath us, um, but we don't actually experience all of those, uh, the components um of the dish the distance between where our feet meet the earth and the center of our planet. Okay. Um, so let's see here, move to the next one. Uh, so I used a whole lot of light language in this uh expression here. Um the upper right corner there, that was actually an acrylic pore that we did, and then I did uh some channeling of the uh light language um along that space. And then I chose this view because I love this portion of the arc of the gold that's coming around between the really dark inky black and the more uh light or the slightly gray black that's there on the lower left-hand side. Um and it gets us an opportunity to see both the uh um light language and a couple different codes there. Um the ones that are we'll get did you hang on. There it is. Okay. Sorry, when I look at light language, I frequently slip into it. So if I start not speaking English, then um that's true. Totally fine.

unknown 41:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 41:22

If you'd like, I can go ahead and just read the whole thing to you in light language. So if we're just looking at that part of the golden arc that's there, start start with starting in the upper left hand corner. Uh the maraketide no moho shinit shineda morokata shinidida.

SPEAKER_04 41:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 41:56

Um so rough translation of that vibrational frequency is basically um it's acknowledging the cosmic ether that we all come from. That's the upper right corner of what we're looking at here. And these, of course, this is on all four corners. Um, and that's the boundary, the veil in between the parts of the universe that humans cannot perceive. Our five senses can't understand. You know, we only get about uh, depending upon who you asked, one to four percent of the known frequencies in the universe, human bodies are actually able to be able to um pick up. So this is the boundary, this is the veil in between the two, and it's asking for translation from the the ether, the the that which we have a hard time defining and bringing it down into um the world of color and the world of vibrational frequency that humans can actually uh embrace. So right. So zooming in on the center here, uh you can see that each one of those little cells uh with the colors that are within it has fairly similar light language around each one of them. And really the translation on those um is just hold the spaces sacred, and it says it again and again and again in the vibrational colors of the human visible spectrum. Okay. Um the uh you know the the close-up of the orchids there, um, and then just the crystals. If you look at the crystals, there's also uh the record keeping of the crystals because they do have a frequency, all crystals have a frequency. Um and uh just the light shining off of those crystals as well is uh kind of the the lower piece there. Um okay.

SPEAKER_01 43:42

Yeah, it's a lot, but it's so good. Like I feel like I'm just transported into another dimension right now.

SPEAKER_03 43:51

Okay. Um, questions over the orchid mandala?

SPEAKER_04 43:55

No.

Inner Critic, Rumination, And Grace

SPEAKER_03 43:56

Because I've got another one loaded here for you. Yeah. Okay. All right. Um, so this is Dragon's Bridge. Um, this is one of my favorite ones because it is almost entirely light language or it's dot work, so it's stifling. Um, you've been in my office, Julie. You've seen uh there was a IKEA had a quasi-famous uh picture that somebody took of a rope ridge going across a canal, and there's a smunky tree in the background that's kind of lost in the mist. Um many years ago, my partner um was actually doing uh uh mediation uh counseling online during 2020, and she uh um she used that as her backdrop uh at our home. And one of her clients says, What are you gonna do? Throw me off the, you know, have me walk the plank. And she made a comment to that. I was like, eh, maybe you should put a portal or something around it. And she went out to dinner with friends that night, and I came home and I'd done this huge golden mandala around the whole thing. Um, and everybody loves it in my office, but because Ikea owns the print, um, I decided to go draw my own, which is where the whole rope bridge concept comes from. Um, so we've got a rope bridge that's going into a vesica pisces, which is the first level of division, right? If you have a single space of awareness and you move to the edge of that awareness, you end up creating a vesica pisces to be able to see further out. There's a Nautilus spiral that's going around it, and then we have two light language dragons on either side there, and we're going to go investigate these real quick. Um, so zooming into the center of the piece first, uh, we've got the rope bridge. Uh, on the floor of the rope bridge, there's two strands of light language that's there, and you can actually see the dragons' tails are making um the Vesta of Pisces with a Nautilus right there in the middle, which from my perspective really invites us in. Uh, while I was working on this piece, I kept hearing or sensing, hearing's the wrong word, not hearing voices, um, sensing that this is the bridge home. Um, and not just for my own soul and my own experience um in this realm, but really just the pathway of we have to walk across the bridge into the unknown island to be able to have a different experience of the world around us and really return back to the home, to the soul's uh space of origin. Um the entire island is light language as well. All of those trees have got light language as part of their tufts. And if you look on the trunks there, there's also little strips of light language that are going through the entire um as far as holding the trees up uh in all the spaces there. Um looking at the dragon in the upper right-hand corner, we can really see the light language showing up. Um he's got the whole uh spine that runs down the crest of its back. There's light language there, there's little um medallions kind of in between the skin of the side and the underbelly of it. Um and for whatever reason, these dragons actually wanted to have moose antlers. Um and so that's what they got out of this. Um so looking at other light language that we can read, uh let's who wants to talk today? Let's go with the uh the dragon's spine. So starting up there at the top of the head, uh right behind the mane of um the dragon's whatever that is. Uh I didn't in in drawing these things, I can see the image, but I don't understand always what's actually going into it. Um and so this this crown of waviness that's coming off the dragon, it's not hair, it's not tentacles, it's just the the like the lion's mane of what's coming off the energy in the space. Well, okay. Um so this is right behind that mane, uh going to the black light language, it's there just up against the edge of the image. These actually read from the tip towards in towards the center of the piece. So each one of those is actually an invitation to go into home, and the dragons are holding the sacred space, inviting us safely across the bridge. Okay.

unknown 48:24

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 48:26

Hi. Um I actually in this conversation I forgot there's light language uh on the spiral as well. The purple part is called the roster. There's light language that's coming from the bottles on the center. Apparently I did chakras there is my next one. Um how are we doing on time? Do we have time to dive into another one here, real quick?

SPEAKER_01 48:44

I only want to be here. I don't want to be anywhere else.

SPEAKER_03 48:50

Perfect. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 48:51

Well, because it's been it's like just how we set, well, I was saying, like when you are doing art and it's really causing you to see, like see the lines and things, see the shape of things. This is a total transmission. Your art is such an energetic transmission. And you actually literally, it's not something that you walk by and be like, oh, that's cute, or oh, that's nice. Like you have to sit with it and let it let it do its magic and transform you. Wow. Thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 49:21

Absolutely.

Transition To Artwork Deep Dive

SPEAKER_03 49:24

Um, this actually comes from um my partner and I decided to do an Oracle deck uh a couple years ago. Um, and she had all these ideas. She had always wanted to do an Oracle deck, and as we were talking about concepts, we decided I would start with drawing the chakras. Um, up to this point, I had never used color before. It was all black and white, and you know, maybe a little bit of red, maybe a little bit of purple, but certainly not full color. So this was really me learning color theory and just diving both feet into the deep end with a brick and saying, all right, let's figure this stuff out. Um we can run through each one of the chakras here real quick. Um the the concept most people know of seven chakras and not the nine chakras. Uh so if we're in the upper left-hand corner, um that rainbow-colored one happens to be the soul star chakra. Uh that one sits uh 12 to 18 inches above the head. Uh in the lower right corner, um, and we'll look at it here in just a moment, is the or closer to it without the little name tag, um, is the earth star chakra, and that one's 12 to 18 inches below the feet. So those two chakras um hold the sacred space for the human experience, right? They kind of hold us in this uh the space where all the other chakras deal with the embodiment of what it is to be a human and how we we constantly work to find balance within the space that we exist. Okay. Um for people that aren't familiar, uh, if we're on the lower right-hand corner, we've got the Earth Star chakra. Uh, the red one there, that's the root chakra. That one happens to be between the generals. Uh, the orange one in the lower left is the uh sacral chakra. Um, that one's sacrum, and then the lower abdomen on the front side. Uh the yellow one with a uh downward pointing triangle is the solar plexus, uh, so the upper abdomen. Uh the green one is the heart chakra, blue happens to be the throat, the light purple happens to be um the third eye, and then uh the spirally purple one happens to be the crown, which is connecting us. So it's the grounding of humanity within our own physical experience all the way up into the spiritual expressions and bringing balance in between all of those things. Um one of the pieces that I there's not a lot of drawings around the earth star and the soul star chakras. And so what I decided to do was to take it from that chakra's perspective. So if we look at the soul star in the upper left-hand corner, first there's the crown of a thousand petals, which is what um the uh crown chakra says that it has. And then there's two petals, and that's what we have uh when we get to the third eye. And the colors go down. So we're going from purple in the middle to the red on the outside. We look at the earth star, it's the exact opposite. We've got the thousand petals on the outside, and we go into the root chakra being the red with the four petals. So from the chakra's perspective of experiencing the human vessel, um, it was kind of what they are seeing first. Who's closest and who's furthest away from us? And that's where I came up with that sacred balance um that uh allows us all to be what we are. And this is my expression of it.

SPEAKER_00 52:31

Wow. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 52:34

Um, if you're interested, we can certainly do a light language transmission to make it through all nine of these chakras real quick.

SPEAKER_00 52:41

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 52:42

Quick being, I don't know, quick's gonna be able to see. Sometimes I get going and I can't stop.

SPEAKER_00 52:46

Go ahead and bring it in.

SPEAKER_03 52:48

Okay, so let's start with uh right hand on the center of the chest, right on top of the heart chakra. Right? Technically, right between the nipples is where we're looking. Lower hand, we're gonna put the thumb in the umbilicus gently, and we're just gonna rest the hand on the lower abdomen. Okay, and these are our two centering points uh for this uh for this transmission. Okay. The lower abdomen is gonna is the the bowl of qi, it's the the container in the vessel, it really holds a lot of the energy that we the that doesn't a lot of, it holds all of the energy that we need to be able to make it through our day. Right. This is the digestive system, uh, this is how nutrients pulled out of our food, uh circulated through the body, and of course it circulates through the anatomical heart, uh, and we're connecting with that. Um, you know, we certainly have this connection with heart is an expression of love, but there's so much more depth to it. Uh, one of the things that I love about working with the heart specifically is that in Chinese medicine, they say that the heart is the emperor or empress with Julie, uh, empress of the body. It's the most important organ because it's the one that speaks to the entire empire and receives information from the entire empire. So we're dealing with our fuel source, what keeps us going, and we're dealing with the communication throughout our entire vessel. Okay. So all we're doing is in this space, we're going to be taking some deep breaths, allowing the abdomen to be able to fill. So we're getting deep down into the belly, all the way up through the chest. And when it's time to release, just relax. Just gentle. We're not counting, we're not trying to do anything that's forceful, we're just getting into this rhythm of working with our body in its own experience. So breathing in, filling up the lower abdomen all the way up into the chest, shoulders, releasing, allowing our body to relax back down into itself. This time, as we're breathing in, at the top of your breath, put in a little puff and sit with curiosity. You just done something different. There's a weird little place there that you just made. When it's time to breathe out, breathe out.

SPEAKER_05 55:00

And puff.

Orchid Mandala: Codes And Meaning

SPEAKER_03 55:03

Another weird little space. Breathe in again with a puff. And sit in curiosity with that blank space. You just put oxygen in your system. Your body thinks that you need to breathe out immediately because that's what we always do. But because of a little puff, you put a little bit more oxygen in. The puff at the bottom, you're putting a little bit more carbon dioxide out. That calm space allows an opportunity for us to listen to our inner knowing. The lower abdomen, gut instinct, the heart, and its neural network about communicates through the entire body. So gently keep with that breathing, breathing in with a puff, and sitting in curiosity. When it's time to breathe out, don't force yourself to hold your breath. Breathe out gently, breathe out slowly. And just sit. And when your body says I need to breathe in, then do it again. Okay. And when your mind gets distracted because I'm speaking in a completely different language, it's okay. Get back to the breathing when you realize that you're not. There we go. All right, so here's the Earth Star Chakra. This is 12 to 18 inches below your feet. We're just going to open that space up to be able to hold a sacred foundation for us to do the rest of our work. So the earth star chakra is branching up around us. It's actually holding the vessel a little bit stronger. It's more connected because we're calling attention to it. Switching to the root. As if you're stopping a flow of urine, just enough to hold up. Just a hint of tension in the pelvis, pelvic floor, just to acknowledge its presence. Little tension. We're not trying to suck a gut. We're just holding tension, just acknowledging what's there, just atoning to be able to breathe in and hold it in the space just a little differently. Exhale. Solar plexus. Move both hands onto your utter abdomen.

SPEAKER_04 58:59

We need love here as part of being Westerners.

SPEAKER_03 59:03

We cut ourselves in half with all of our stress, with all of the tension that we experience on a regular basis. We need to be loving in this place. Okay, into our heart. Take the hands, put them back where they were. Surati, Saracata Muta Shinita Muta Serate, Sarate, Shiri Tracaramokoto Cat Sidita andamoroco Tati and Moro Moko Silakata Maketic and Marakadis Icatamanaku. Taman at the Romoto City at the Romoto guy select out of a katum calls a eat out of a katomo to see a kind of time at the case.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:53

Exhale.

Dragon’s Bridge: The Path Home

SPEAKER_03 1:00:58

Alright. In comes the throat. My throat usually sounds like an angry dragon, so just flesh you know. Romruko sanatara Romoroku ta sritish and aro to kite. And breathe out. Almost there. By the cutition, I tell you the Kamuhotira catarried. Shiri and Mokoto Kai Tishini Kita Kamukaita Tata. The Titaniti Mokota Sarat, Saratramoroko Saraki Shinita Mukaita Dishna Takamuha Crown Shaka Kid Morokotisidi Damarakati, Romoka Sidai Shinidiamata. Game at a miri kitara maraker senior moroko tishini natromoko tamokota tikiti tikiti a ticket a komoko sati Tamarata Shinitika all right, this is almost four. Kamarakatigara, Marokoto Murokoti Sirida Marokoto Kochi, finishing with the soul starkotohu Tomukoto Sidira katamaka namoko. This is a mother's embrace. Kamurokoto Seri bringing down to the earth. Kamuro Serata holding our vessels on Kamoto Kai Shirititi Moho tatata Aishira Tamorokai Tiritita Morokai Sha Muaitikata Kamuroko. Okay. That was a lot of vibration in a very short amount of time. Drink water. Go ground yourself. Be with nature as much as you can. Let these frequencies integrate. It may not have made sense to your ears, but the vibrational frequency that comes from light language is understood on a much deeper level. It's rearranging these energetic centers within our system.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:47

There's all nine of them again for us to pull back together again. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:52

All right, well that was fun. Thank you, Julie.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:55

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:56

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:58

Where am I?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:02

Third rock in the sun.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:15

Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:16

You're very welcome.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:18

Thank you for the opportunity.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:23

I have a lot of questions, and I also don't want to talk at all.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:26

That's fair. Not a worry. I'm gonna stop screen sharing because I think that's enough artwork for today. Is that fair?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:36

It's so beautiful.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:38

Thank you. Thank you, thank you. It's the that's the light as I see it and as I interpret it, and how I am able to translate it on the paper. That's that's the way I see the world.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:53

Okay, well, one, I want to know what you know, but two, thank you. Thank you for such a beautiful gift. Like there's no real words to thank you for the work that you are always offering and doing and stepping up for and patiently waiting while the rest of us get our shit together.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:14

Like I said, experienced novice, right? I'm waiting too. I'm waiting for me to get out of my own way, right? In things that I thought I already was. And you find out, oh, there's something else I'm tripping over.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:23

Okay, darn it.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:24

How do I do better next time? We're all doing this journey together.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:31

Well, thank you so much for an incredible transformative conver conversation and obviously like experience.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:41

Well, thank you for not falling out of your chair. I'm grateful you were able to sleep at all.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:46

It was so I was like, okay, I need to do this like over and over and over again. That chakra meditation and and that whole little section over and over again.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:56

That was just really wonderful. I'm grateful you were able to experience it and feel something out of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:04

So yeah. Thank you. All right, do this again. I can't wait to do it again. Yeah, but I feel like this is probably a good landing place.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:17

I would agree. That's there's people can't listen after that, right? Light language is usually a good period at the end of a presentation.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:25

Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:27

You're very welcome.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:28

Thank you, Katie. Very welcome.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:30

Absolutely. You shared your mantra, so I want to share that as kind of a closing thought real quick, if you don't mind.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:44

Universe hold me and show me how great it can be.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:49

Or it's going to be. It depends upon the day, but and in that space, there's a safety, there's a security, the inner child is enveloped. The excitement of creativity shows up about show me the the horizon, what's coming in next.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:05

Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:06

And there's also the space of yeah, I know tripping spaces are gonna come up. I got teenagers. Of course they're gonna go do whatever they're gonna do. Right. And show me a path to show up differently.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:18

Let me show up with more greatness and more light than um than I'm aware that I'm even capable of doing.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:27

Receiving.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:30

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:31

You're very welcome, Julie. Thank you as always for this opportunity. I love talking with you.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:36

Anytime. I mean, are you kind of swirling as much as I am after listening to all of that? Holy cow, for sure, I am doing that chakra meditation every day. Every day. I don't even know. I have no words to explain how transformative if this all feels magic. If you love this as much as I do, please share with a friend. Um, also take a minute to like and review this podcast. Thank you. And go check out my socials. It's a juju love underscore win um on Instagram. And I am going to be hosting a raffle. So go to my socials, follow me, but also more importantly, um check out the raffle that I'm gonna do because we're gonna raffle off one of Brian's pieces. So that is really cool. I'm so excited. Thank you for being here. Thank you for supporting this space. Thank you for supporting uh such a beautiful conversation. When I have these conversations, I'm like, these are the only type of conversations I want to be having. That's it. Everything else is just wasting my time. I want these conversations that when I leave them, I uh feel so fuzzy, so lit up. Oh my gosh. All right, thank you so much, everybody. Now get in nature. Ground yourself, and I am sending you so much love.