SPEAKER_00 0:08

Alright.

SPEAKER_03 0:10

Add that into the intro.

SPEAKER_01 0:12

Yeah. A quick Diet Coke. Talk to the intro guy about that.

SPEAKER_03 0:17

Oh my gosh, please don't. Please don't read a voice. I liked it.

SPEAKER_01 0:20

It's a little much, maybe.

SPEAKER_03 0:21

Not cherry coke this week, though. I'm not a classic Diet Coke. Can I be honest?

SPEAKER_01 0:27

I'm not a fresco guy. Do you want to drink this, John?

SPEAKER_03 0:29

It's too sweet. Do you want to switch? Do you want the Diet Coke? He doesn't like Diet Coke either.

unknown 0:32

Not a Diet Coke guy either.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

Hi everybody. Welcome back to What the podcast? I'm Ryan. I'm John. Together we are back again. I'm gonna drink this candle. In the Bluuth again. We've got my lovely wife. Big dent right there.

SPEAKER_03 1:01

Yeah, I dropped that bottle the first week I got it. Oh and that's the dent.

SPEAKER_01 1:06

Joining us this week in Scopes Government. You know, just four friends sitting in a booth talking about stuff and things, lifelong friends, no boundaries, bada bing, bada boom. Guys, let's get into it. John?

SPEAKER_02 1:24

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 1:25

Popcorn John.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

Yeah, I mean What are you thinking about? I'm surprised Annie's upright these days. She had a crazy weekend.

SPEAKER_03 1:32

I had a crazy weekend.

SPEAKER_02 1:34

Did you take Monday off or no? Um when you're finished, actually.

SPEAKER_03 1:39

In the sense that I didn't work my desk job, yes, but I did take two client meetings.

SPEAKER_02 1:43

Well, that's fine. That's no big deal.

SPEAKER_03 1:45

That's pretty good. We worked together this weekend. Did you charge them holiday pay? No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

I spent the whole morning driving basically to your house, all the way out here, to the car dealership, trying to sell Kara's car. Guy was not helpful at all, didn't want my car, and then drove home. It was about the most demoralizing.

SPEAKER_02 2:08

Help go into a different place. No, no, definitely not. So you're gonna get 10k pretty much?

SPEAKER_01 2:13

I hope so. I gotta do a little road trip, but Oh, all the way up. All the way to Irvine. So weird. And now, but now I'm like in my head about if I drive for the listeners and the viewers. And I don't know if Annie even really knows what's going on here. Hey Annie. Trying to sell Kara's car. A dealership in Irvine said they want Kara's car.

SPEAKER_03 2:34

And they said this the best we can do is 10k. When we went to the dealership today, he had told us I have to see the car by the car.

SPEAKER_01 2:44

He's like, let me check out the car. So I'm I'm worried that we're gonna get there and it's the same situation. And so I've been texting this girl back and forth, like, hey, like, I need your verbal, a verbal confirmation that this is the offer that you can give us. She's like, Yep, it's totally good. Okay. Bring it up.

SPEAKER_02 2:59

More easy to work with. I'm like, okay. Because if I drive all the way to Irvine and it's like actually, we'll give you 7K.

SPEAKER_03 3:06

Yep. Here's my question.

SPEAKER_02 3:07

I'll light the car and fire your parking lot.

SPEAKER_03 3:09

You drive all the way to Irvine, you sell the car. How are you getting home? You drive for us.

SPEAKER_01 3:13

They pay for an Uber. Shut down. I know.

SPEAKER_03 3:17

Which is so funny because I feel like we could just hop on the train. Like, hey, can we get money for the train? Well, I that's what I kind of thought you were gonna do is a train ride back. That's kind of sweet. Well that'd be good.

SPEAKER_02 3:24

I thought you were gonna caravan up there and then drive home in your own car. No, not if they're paying for another car. They offered. Yeah. Paying for an Uber, they know you're in San Diego. That's crazy. I know.

SPEAKER_03 3:33

So I'm thinking the demographic of Irvine is a little bit more rich and richy than the demographic of here up in El Cajun. A hundred percent it is. So that's why they're saying, yeah, 10k is good.

SPEAKER_01 3:46

I don't know. Maybe. Maybe they'll get the car, maybe it'll be a big waste of time. Okay. They make you feel like a crazy person because he's like, yeah, you know, he brought back a bunch of papers and was like, here's the car facts. And like I self-proclaimed, I fell for it. Like, I fully was like, oh, maybe we should. On the way there, I was like, Kara, we're not taking anything less than what we want because we already got an offer. Kara's like, yeah, good. They make you feel like a crazy person. Really? They're like, Yeah, with the damage on this car. I'm like, it was in the post. He's like, Yeah, well, uh, best we can do is this. What'd they offer you down here? $7,500. Oh, wow.

unknown 4:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:28

I'm like, that's a a far swing.

SPEAKER_03 4:31

We brought up like, hey, we're seeing this car with $50,000 more miles being sold for $17,000. I'm like, and he goes, not in this area.

SPEAKER_01 4:40

I'm like, Irvine offered me this. He's like, did they actually see it or was it just pictures? I was like, well, it's just pictures. He's like, yep. Yes, so there you go. So you're gonna now I'm like, okay, maybe he's right.

SPEAKER_03 4:52

I should have known when he drove drove my car without asking me.

SPEAKER_01 4:54

But then I have to remember that it's literally the guy. Well, he didn't not ask you. He didn't he's gonna buy the car. He's gonna drive it.

SPEAKER_03 5:01

No, he didn't ask me. He said, Why? Do you have your keys? You're there to sell the car. If you go check out your car, yeah, he's gonna check out the car. I'll just hang out. Didn't tell me he was gonna drive it. I thought it was gonna get in the car. That didn't bother me.

SPEAKER_01 5:13

What bothered me was the runaround.

SPEAKER_03 5:15

And also that he didn't put my seats back or my meetings.

SPEAKER_01 5:17

Literally, this guy's job to be.

SPEAKER_02 5:20

To be fair.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

I mean, yeah, totally. If he was gonna buy it, you can do whatever you want.

SPEAKER_02 5:26

That car is really small, though. It's a very small car.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

You kind of just need to get great miles.

SPEAKER_03 5:31

It's a great college person car. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

You're gonna try to fix my market?

SPEAKER_02 5:35

Because that that that'll really obliterate you. People will be like, oh, for you three dollars. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:39

I got a couple of those today. They're like, oh, let's do this today. Best I can do is $5,000. I'm like, no.

SPEAKER_02 5:44

Don't you love when they try to expedite the timeline and then undercut your your thing? They're like, Annie, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_03 5:50

I'm buying a candle.

SPEAKER_02 5:52

I know it's not that simple. I know it's not that simple.

unknown 5:55

See?

SPEAKER_02 5:56

She wants to play with the wax.

SPEAKER_03 5:58

No, she wants to play with the smoke right now. Sage the room.

SPEAKER_01 6:01

Um We kind of talk about this podcast being like a pop culture thing, you know, talking about what's hot, what's in the news. And I was just I was scrolling my my news app just moments ago, and none of it is interesting to me. So I I think we need to stretch some news. Yes, we need some stretch some muscles. Of course. Yes, start some rumors. Well, maybe not rumors. What's important to us this week? What are we talking about?

SPEAKER_03 6:26

I'm not too educated in it, but there's a new documentary. This is a perfect place to be. There's a new documentary the crash. Okay. Yes, I've heard about this. And it's about a girl who was driving her car like a hundred miles per hour to kill her boyfriend. Her boyfriend and her friend are in the car, and she drives a hundred miles per hour, crashes, and it's like the whole investigation about the crash.

SPEAKER_02 6:51

So she survived and they didn't?

SPEAKER_03 6:53

Yes. Yeah. So she was successful. In this documentary, this is a really valuable thing. I've heard a lot about it. It must be big. A big fitness influencer who kind of came out with like, yeah, I don't look super fit, but I lost all this weight because of all this. It's just a YouTube influence, like fitness guru. She is in the documentary as this girl's friend. Oh. And like kind of like on her side. So now everyone is kind of like unfollowing her on YouTube and it's like.

SPEAKER_02 7:28

They're very perspective driven. I feel like Oh, you can change the whole narrative a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 7:32

Everyone's watching it going like, wait, is this the same I don't remember her what about it?

SPEAKER_01 7:37

Here's some key details about the case and the documentary.

SPEAKER_02 7:40

Thank you, AI.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

The investigation. What initially appeared to be a tragic accident was later ruled a calculated crime. Prosecutors presented evidence of a volatile, toxic relationship and established that Sherilla intentionally caused the crash. You can obviously tell that this is AI.

SPEAKER_03 7:56

Mackenzie was like not helping anybody.

SPEAKER_01 8:03

She was convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison. Damn. Okay, so no mystery.

SPEAKER_02 8:09

Think about the adverse though. Crashed into her boyfriend and killed it. What if there was no malicious intent and she just accidentally crashed your car? Oh, I see. And her friend died, and now she's in prison.

SPEAKER_03 8:18

Life in prison. That's like the Amanda Knowles of it all. Amanda Knowles was a foreign exchange student living in Italy, and her roommate gets murdered, and she gets arrested in Italy for the crime saying, like, oh, well, obviously you murdered her. And she's like, No, I did it. I did not murder her. Like, when and she got arrested, and it took forever to get her acquitted. The the camera footage is out. You could see, you could watch the car. Uh the fitness girl is Rosie Graham. Interesting. But everyone's posing, like, wait, is this the same like person I've done? Rosie Graham from earlier.

SPEAKER_01 8:57

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 8:57

Yeah. The Rosie Graham from Fitness Talk.

SPEAKER_03 9:00

It's you know what? And speaking of crimes that was it. Was it murder or was it not? Alec Murdoch just got off. They just acquitted him.

SPEAKER_02 9:10

Uh one crime, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:12

On one of his crimes.

SPEAKER_01 9:12

Now tell me who that is.

SPEAKER_03 9:14

The Murdoch murderers. Oh gosh, you guys. This is like 2020 news. It's like a rich, rich uh Southern guy, redheaded. His son crashed a boat. His son was drunk driving a boat. Like he was like a prosecutor. Was he not? But his the dad was like a defensive.

SPEAKER_02 9:31

Yeah, he was a lawyer, yeah. A lawyer. Big time lawyer.

SPEAKER_03 9:33

Gets his son basically off of this crime where he murdered people. He he drunk driving a boat. Kills people.

SPEAKER_02 9:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:40

Um gets his son off. And then eventually he murdered his wife and his other son. It was all very mysterious.

SPEAKER_02 9:48

The drunk. It's kind of a making driver. No, the d the dad. The dad of the drunk driver.

SPEAKER_03 9:51

The kid, the kid and the mom were found with gunshot wounds in their barn. So the the kid who killed all the people on the boat is now dead. No, no, no. He was he was at school. He like got acquitted of it. His younger brother. He murder he murdered his son. Oh, it was a whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 10:08

Where we just break down and document basically. No, it was the whole thing.

SPEAKER_03 10:12

He just got um acquitted of one of the crimes. Awesome. But he got he got the murder charge, I think. One of the murder charges, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:19

So that was a ton of financial crimes.

SPEAKER_03 10:21

Oh yeah, because he was he was yeah, he was doing the embezzlement and whatnot. And he got got and then he decided to. It can't all be murdered. He was doing a famous side. He was gonna murder the city. Here's my thing. Here's my thing.

SPEAKER_02 10:35

What's your favorite side?

SPEAKER_03 10:37

If you're gonna do a like a murder suicide moment, you m you have to do the suicide part. You can't just do the murder.

SPEAKER_02 10:44

You can't shake it out on a lot of that duo, though. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 10:48

Yeah, but like, come on.

SPEAKER_01 10:50

Matricide, I think, is pretty good. Murdering your mattress. You kill your wife.

SPEAKER_03 10:53

On a mattress. Oh. That's a pretty good one. Is that mattresside? Fratricide is when you kill a sibling. I know the family side is your whole family.

SPEAKER_01 11:02

Family side seems lazy.

SPEAKER_03 11:04

Lazy. Family side. Lazy. Friend side.

SPEAKER_01 11:07

So when you kill your friends.

SPEAKER_03 11:09

I don't think they have a word for I think that's just homicide. You get knocked out of peg. Is there a word for killing your friends? Friend aside.

SPEAKER_02 11:16

Matricide is killing your own mother.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

List of types of killing. Because pesticide is killing a kid.

SPEAKER_03 11:22

List of types of killing.

SPEAKER_01 11:24

Killing other people.

SPEAKER_03 11:25

Now what happens when you kill your parents? Okay, patricide.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

Here we go. Amiticide is killing your aunt. Avunculicide. Uncle. Killing your uncle. Obviously. Familicide.

SPEAKER_03 11:38

Familicide, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:39

Familicide.

SPEAKER_02 11:41

Your whole family.

SPEAKER_01 11:41

Filicide or prolicide is killing your own child. Oh my god. Fratricide is killing your brother. Honor killing. Wait, that seems like a big thing. Honor killing? The killing of a family under perceived to have brought disgrace to the family.

SPEAKER_03 11:56

Well, obviously, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:57

That doesn't it seems like it doesn't belong. Matricide.

SPEAKER_02 12:01

They all come into the room and then.

SPEAKER_03 12:02

Patricide killing your mom.

SPEAKER_01 12:03

Meriticide is killing of one's husband.

SPEAKER_03 12:06

Meriticide.

SPEAKER_01 12:07

Matricide is killing of one's mother. Okay, so I had that wrong.

SPEAKER_03 12:10

So then what's killing your wife?

SPEAKER_01 12:12

Killing your niece is nepiticide.

SPEAKER_03 12:16

That's not funny.

SPEAKER_01 12:17

Killing your nephew is nepoticide. Nepiticide or nepoticide.

SPEAKER_03 12:22

You know, if it wasn't, if the meaning wasn't that, it'd be a pretty name.

SPEAKER_01 12:26

Patricide is killing your father. Parricide is killing your mother. Siblicide. Come on.

SPEAKER_03 12:37

Now it's getting it's fake. Now it's fake.

SPEAKER_01 12:39

Okay, this one makes sense. Sororicide.

SPEAKER_03 12:42

Killing someone in a sorority. Yeah, it's the same as fraticide, like a f fraternity. Killing someone in your sorority. Sororicide.

SPEAKER_01 12:51

Soror side. That's what um Um this list is a lot longer than I thought it was, so I'm just gonna leave it there. Yeah, I feel like that's all that's gonna make those names. That's all the family.

SPEAKER_02 12:59

I think that's why people just say I think that that's what makes those murder mystery documentaries so interesting. Is obviously like I think a lot of them they actually did it, but the thinking about the like the how to make a murderer. Remember that one? I just I just rewatched that, which is crazy. That was uh Stephen Avery. Making of a murderer making a murderer.

SPEAKER_03 13:19

Speaking of movies coming out, things that are outsession. Um, the back rooms is coming out. Have you even seen the obsession one? No, I was talking about the Michael Jackson movie that's out.

SPEAKER_01 13:29

Okay, yeah, Jimmo.

SPEAKER_03 13:31

What about it? Well, it's kind of bringing up because the Michael Jackson movie came out, and then another documentary about like the Neverland of it all has come out.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

Another one?

SPEAKER_03 13:43

Yeah, another one. Kind of like right after that one came out, another one kind of came out. And it's bringing up a lot of conversations I've been ha hearing about people trying to figure out whether or not he did he was like a pedophile.

SPEAKER_01 13:55

Okay, this is actually something that's interesting because this generation, like I feel like when we were kids, before he died, it was like an open secret. It was like OJ. Like he was not like he was acquitted, but like everyone kind of agreed that he did diddle those kids.

SPEAKER_03 14:16

Yes. And now this generation is like, no, he didn't.

SPEAKER_01 14:18

Maybe he didn't. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:20

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

Well, you didn't I feel like also in some of the interviews I saw a lot of those kids that were like rumored came out and were like, no.

SPEAKER_01 14:30

A few of them did. And like the ones that were kind of pushing the ones that were the biggest focus behind leaving Neverland, which is the one of the more prominent docs that came out, basically ran the whole thing back and was like, yeah, none of that was true. I kind of made it all up.

SPEAKER_02 14:48

So I'm like, So now we're I was it's wild to be a star that to have that kind of scandal and it doesn't ruin it. He had so much money that there was like it's like not even close to ruining the water.

SPEAKER_03 15:00

I feel like people also aren't remembering, like, even so this is a conversation we had yesterday at work where we were talking about my boss had saw the documentary, or the not the documentary, the movie, and she we she was talking about it and then we were talking about their kids, like his kids. And I said, Oh yeah, like what's blanket up to? And a bunch of the younger girls in my office were like, What? And they had no clue that he named his kid Blanket. And I was like, I feel like we got to see the end, which like obviously was not necessarily the best parts of his life, like near the end. Oh yeah. But like him holding his kid over the balcony. Like I remember that on the news and his like eccentric being at the end.

SPEAKER_02 15:41

Kind of a lot of access to the news, more than kids your age, I think, a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 15:45

Yeah, well, my parents were in the news cycle, they liked it.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

No, I remember that when Michael Jackson had When was that? Maybe I don't remember it, maybe I just remember seeing it later.

SPEAKER_03 15:53

Clips later. 2000.

SPEAKER_01 15:56

When did Michael Jackson 2009 kid out the 13 and or 11?

SPEAKER_02 16:04

That's Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:05

No, maybe 2005.

SPEAKER_01 16:06

Okay, so maybe I don't remember it. It was 2002. Oh, really? So I was six. Okay, so we definitely saw clips. It's one of those things.

SPEAKER_03 16:14

When did he die?

SPEAKER_01 16:15

2008? 2009?

SPEAKER_03 16:17

Yeah, eight or nine. I remember the day he died. I remember that. I was at my grandma's house.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

When did MJ die?

SPEAKER_03 16:23

We were watching E.T.

SPEAKER_01 16:24

That was like one of my first 2009. June 25th. June 25th. What a sad life. But that is um, yeah, it's really like going back. Like now people are like, he That was like such a big part of the zeitgeist around Michael Jackson, too. Was like, oh yeah, he he's crazy. He hung his kid out the window. And he talked about that on Oprah, and he's like, Yeah, I was just, you know, being nice. I was showing everybody my baby out the window.

SPEAKER_03 16:51

Yeah, it was like every interview was weird.

SPEAKER_01 16:53

Yeah. Well, every interview was weird because he was not like he was maladjusted to the world. Yeah. And so for anyone to be like, yeah, he, you know, didn't XYZ because he's a pedophile is like not really understand. It's like a bad faith argument. Like, I don't know. He's just messed up.

SPEAKER_03 17:12

Yeah, I think now the understanding is the mystery, you know?

SPEAKER_02 17:17

Because he was so eccentric, it was like, yeah, you you kind of go in, like, oh, if he was a really well-adjusted and socially normal guy, I think a lot of people would have dismissed those allegations. Right. Like, no way.

SPEAKER_01 17:27

But he definitely got the Britney end of the paparazzi.

SPEAKER_03 17:31

Like, well, yeah, and then they they were talking to like that. Now that now the understanding of him is like, oh, he was basically stunted at whatever age the trauma of his childhood started. Five.

SPEAKER_02 17:44

Yeah, one like you see that video of him going to that like like it's not an antique store, but it's like a boutique store where it has all these cool like vases and stuff, like decor stuff. And he's like going through, he's like, Do I have those? And the guy's like, No. He's like, I'll take four of those. It's like he's like, and then the guy the interviewer was like kind of going with him, he's like, How much are those? He's like, Oh, they're $150,000 a piece. And he just he just put forward his basket. I'm like, This is crazy. I'll take four.

SPEAKER_03 18:11

And doesn't he have that famous um the story of him going and renting out a whole grocery store so he can shop?

SPEAKER_02 18:16

Yeah, awesome. I'll do that. If I can ever get that rich, that's I'm totally doing that.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

No, I wonder how much that would cost.

SPEAKER_02 18:23

I will rely I see I this is this is crazy. I feel like you could just cost the grocery store to open an hour.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

Can I come in after hours?

SPEAKER_02 18:29

This is this is somebody who like you know, Michael Jackson didn't grow up poor as the thing. But I'm like, coming from somebody who like got grew up middle class, you know. I'm like, I fully want if I ever become rich, I fully want to rely on all the benefits of being rich. I don't want to ever grocery shop. I like I want somebody to do that for me. But I do like you look at Justin Bieber, Michael Jackson's like, those they kind of craved that because they never like had it.

SPEAKER_03 18:52

They never had it.

SPEAKER_02 18:54

So interesting.

SPEAKER_01 18:54

In 2003, Michael Jackson rented out a Publix grocery store in Boynton Beach, Florida, to experience what it was like to shop like a normal person. Closed to the public, the store was filled with his friends and family pretending to be everyday customers and staff. Oh. Um, okay, so guys, from my birthday, my birthday this year.

SPEAKER_03 19:10

Yeah, wait, wait, wait. What what are we gonna pretend to be normal to make you feel like normal?

SPEAKER_01 19:15

That is so sad. Um do that. The grocery store thing. The grocery store thing was pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 19:20

You rent a coffee cart and all your friends and family will come and pretend to be so far.

SPEAKER_01 19:24

Every week, and they can give me money. Wow, that's really funny, Annie. It's not that funny.

SPEAKER_03 19:29

I love your coffee cart, and I go every week because I absolutely love it.

SPEAKER_01 19:33

Yeah, you just compared my small business to that of Michael Jackson's plight where he rented out a Publix in Florida so he could be normal.

SPEAKER_03 19:44

It was really the the the reason I can.

SPEAKER_01 19:46

How much are my pay my parents paying you to come to the coffee cart each week?

SPEAKER_03 19:50

No, no, no. It's not that's pretty good, right?

SPEAKER_01 19:55

They have a group rate. That's nice. It's just whatever we can do. I'm gonna friend decide you. I'm gonna friend decide you immediately following this podcast.

SPEAKER_03 20:08

It's murder, suicide, or nothing, guys. I would never go, I would never leave this world without you guys.

SPEAKER_01 20:13

I watch this talk. I'm not putting hands in on that. I'm not doing that. That means you'd kill me. I watched this TikTok.

SPEAKER_03 20:18

That means I wouldn't leave you behind.

SPEAKER_02 20:20

This girl was like talking about leave me behind for the record. Oh, you can leave me behind. I'm good at being like behind if you're going to murder suicide yourself, please leave me behind.

SPEAKER_01 20:30

I'm good on the box.

SPEAKER_03 20:30

No, obviously that's not what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

I watched this girl on TikTok. She was like, I have an agreement with my dad that like if either one of us dies, we have to stop her mom from forgiving the murderer on the stand. Because it seems like that's the sort of thing that she would do. Yeah. She's like, Yeah, me and my dad have this pact that like if either one of us gets murdered, like we have to stop her because she's just like a good Christian woman.

SPEAKER_03 20:58

Yeah. I I have a pact with a couple friends that if we die or go missing, they've agreed to make a podcast on solving our murder.

SPEAKER_01 21:09

I'm not interested. And it's not the friends that already have a podcast.

SPEAKER_03 21:11

No, it's other friends. It's other friends. It's other friends.

SPEAKER_01 21:14

So you think it's more. The audition line is long for that. You think it's more likely that your other friends are gonna start a whole new podcast and not us. Well, obviously, they're gonna just roll this. I feel like we could just roll this into a murder podcast. No, no, of course not. There's a lot of branding in this.

SPEAKER_02 21:33

Whoever friends this is, do not come knocking on my door when you're like, I want to make a murder podcast.

SPEAKER_01 21:36

You think we could just start episode 288. You guys it's now a murder podcast.

SPEAKER_03 21:41

Kara, Kara, would you make a podcast dedicated to solving my murder?

SPEAKER_01 21:46

No, Kara doesn't even like this podcast. Kara's barely on this podcast.

SPEAKER_03 21:53

Kara, come on. I'm looking at entertainment news like you. Oh, what do you got? Bulgaria won your Eurovision. Oh

SPEAKER_01 22:00

You know, I wasn't even clocked in on your own.

SPEAKER_03 22:05

Yes, that's also his autopsy report was released.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

Yeah, the Storage Wars guy died. Can you believe that? Can I tell you something off topic?

SPEAKER_03 22:17

Is there a topic?

SPEAKER_02 22:19

No, there isn't.

SPEAKER_01 22:19

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

You know when you're texting and it has this new feature where it gives you suggested replies? Yeah. I've been going with those like I've been like multiple choice questioning those. Like, I have to choose one of those.

SPEAKER_03 22:33

I don't have that.

SPEAKER_02 22:34

You don't have that? Someone just texted me. Say it again? I said, remember, they're they're reminiscing on a funny time. They said, remember this? And I said, and I just responded, haha. Yeah, that was funny. And that was all canned in my phone.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

Oh my god. I'm never texting you again. I don't have that. I'm literally mark my words. I'm never texting you again. Yeah. That was funny.

SPEAKER_03 22:56

Like in the little phrase. I think it's in the new upstream.

SPEAKER_01 22:58

Is it whole is it words or is it uh it was it was a whole phrase a second ago.

SPEAKER_03 23:02

You know what? Sometimes that doesn't do that.

SPEAKER_02 23:07

Sean just typed yeah and sent it. Yeah. Mine says I the or I'm giving me the free.

SPEAKER_03 23:14

Every once in a while when I get like a like I got a It'll be like see you soon or on my way if I go to like put like on in a couple of things.

SPEAKER_02 23:22

Yeah, well, let me tell you.

SPEAKER_03 23:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 23:25

Well, I've been I've been really heavily relying on it because I just don't know. Look out here, look right here. Look here. It says somebody says if you're Bell One Free, it says, yes, I'm free or sorry, I'm busy.

SPEAKER_03 23:35

And I go, it does that when I can't answer the phone. Or when I'm like on the phone of someone else.

SPEAKER_02 23:41

Okay, what is this one? What? See, it doesn't even show this.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

It's AI. I'm gonna be my brains are moving. So this is a just a challenge for me where I have to text John in a way that the AI could never figure out how to respond to it.

SPEAKER_03 23:55

You have to start doing codes, like putting spaces and capitalizations where it shouldn't be.

unknown 24:01

Thanks.

SPEAKER_03 24:02

Did you see that um Apple Maps is now gonna have freaking ads? What? Wait, what? I went to my maps and it popped up and it said advertisement. It said like um Apple Maps? No, no, no. Can be an Apple Map premium. When you're on using Apple Maps now, ads are gonna pop up. I'm sorry. No. Is Apple bankrupt or something? I opened my maps and a thing popped up and it said Apple Maps ads. And it said, no way. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

I don't have that. I haven't gotten a thing. Lady. Yeah, they put AI in the MLB app.

SPEAKER_03 24:44

No, I'm so sorry. AI finally got baseball.

SPEAKER_01 24:47

AI finally got baseball. Yeah, the ABS challenge.

SPEAKER_03 24:49

It's gonna be a matter of time for those robots are the ones that are pinning the balls, not the ball.

SPEAKER_01 24:53

Nice one, blue. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 24:59

Robot umpire. Those robots that like can barely run, running the base.

SPEAKER_01 25:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:05

I think that's yeah. That'd be pretty funny.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

Robots that play baseball.

SPEAKER_03 25:08

Baseball robots. Oh, it's a matter of time. It's it's gonna be seconds.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

You know, I mean, when I watch robots play baseball, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_03 25:17

Well, you haven't seen the newest renditions.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

Because they could just program any game. Now, if they could program a bunch of robots to like redo a game from the past, like oh run a simulation of the best game ever kind of Tatis hitting a walk-off.

SPEAKER_03 25:33

Or you probably you could like digitize robots to be characters like or past players. Yeah. So you could have Babe Ruth play against Tantis.

SPEAKER_01 25:42

Like stuff that we wanna see.

SPEAKER_03 25:44

I don't want to obviously it's like when um Michael Phelps swam against race the shark. Did you remember that? Yeah, I remember that.

SPEAKER_01 25:52

During Shark Week, Michael Michael Phelps raced a shark.

SPEAKER_03 25:55

Well, and that was the whole thing is they're like, he's gonna race a shark. No, he raced the simulation of a shark. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 26:00

Well, yeah, obviously, you can't share the water with that.

SPEAKER_03 26:02

No, I wanted him to race a shark. They are his false advertising.

SPEAKER_01 26:06

But a shark and a tank isn't at peak performance level.

SPEAKER_03 26:10

You should have sued.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

I'm sure I like this new persona of you.

SPEAKER_03 26:12

It's so freaking millions of dollars from Shark Week suing them. I would have given it to the show.

SPEAKER_02 26:21

That's exactly the American mindset. I'm gonna sue you.

SPEAKER_03 26:26

Yeah, lawyer up and sue Michael Phelps for not raising a shark. I would sue Shark Week for advertising.

SPEAKER_02 26:34

Actually, um, did you see the the The Shark One, by the way? Same kind of done. Yeah, well he's obviously um Did you see the one where there was it was like a Animal Planet one where it's like this guy's gonna get swallowed by an anaconda, and they like made him a fiberglass suit so he he wouldn't get crushed. Yeah. And he actually got swallowed by an anaconda, and then they they like intervened and had to like pull him out.

SPEAKER_01 26:55

So did this did the snake die?

SPEAKER_02 26:57

No, they they and they they took special precautions to make sure that the snake wouldn't be harmed. Basically, what it is if you run up on a snake who's eating something, yeah, a lot of times they'll regurgitate it because they want to like defend itself. So they just basically like like ran up. Because they're too slow and it came in it. Yeah, it was when they're and it spit him back out.

SPEAKER_01 27:13

So what was the point of that freaky?

SPEAKER_02 27:15

I don't know. It's like probably a kink, huh? Like I probably love that.

SPEAKER_01 27:18

He's like, wouldn't it be weird for science?

SPEAKER_03 27:20

It's like the carpet guys in New York. Secure me out who like to be rolled up in the carpet and stepped on. What?

SPEAKER_02 27:27

I haven't seen that. Different type of TikTok. Hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_01 27:30

Pull up her hinge really quick. Just is it one of the carpet? Unrelated. Unrelated. The carpet guys, or is it just like a type of guy?

SPEAKER_03 27:40

There's two guys in New York that, you know, lay and like rolled up carpet and lay on the sidewalk and like in in the way, and people will step over them, and it's like they're kink. And there's two different guys who do it. And one I guess is nice and one I guess is angry. I'm gonna say it's not their kink. I'm gonna say they're just doing it for views. No, no, they're like, no, they're like old homeless guys.

SPEAKER_01 28:02

Are there any uh people videoing them? Is Mr. Beast there?

SPEAKER_03 28:05

No.

SPEAKER_01 28:06

Well then they just do it for the love of the game.

SPEAKER_03 28:09

Yeah, NYC carpet guy.

SPEAKER_02 28:13

I what am I seeing a lot on my features? Carpet man.

SPEAKER_03 28:20

Kevin, NYC carpet guy.

SPEAKER_02 28:23

Okay, we well, we know that exists now. Let me see.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

Let me see. So there's a guy in there. There's a guy in there. And he's maybe in I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 28:33

I don't know what he's doing in the carpet, but he likes to be.

SPEAKER_01 28:36

It looks like he's just laying there and he likes to be a little bit more.

SPEAKER_03 28:38

It looks like he might just be a homeless man who found a carpet, someone was getting rid of him and is using that as blankets. Stop scrolling.

SPEAKER_01 28:45

His head would be at least popped out the top.

SPEAKER_02 28:52

He does it in walkways where it's like bottlenecked where you have no choice.

SPEAKER_01 28:57

So who decides hiding in what's good carpet behavior and what's bad carpet behavior? Just because he gets sexual pleasure from it, does that mean that he's the bad carpet guy?

SPEAKER_03 29:06

No, I think that he's just like there's one carpet guy who's probably chill. He's like, Yeah, I like to be stepped on, whatever. And then he it gets like aggressive about it.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

Is he asking people to step on him?

SPEAKER_03 29:15

Well, he's kind of putting himself in in from what it sounds like, I've never run a pot across the carpet guys of New York, personally. Um, but from what it seems like You have it seems like maybe he's doing it intentionally in a space in which there's no other option than to step on him.

SPEAKER_01 29:31

Right. I think that's all fake news. And that messes with the uh that's kind of a power dynamic.

SPEAKER_03 29:35

That's fake news. You're gonna say power dynamics. I think it truly is a homeless man who is trying to stay with him.

SPEAKER_01 29:40

Maybe there's no guy in there at all. Have we interviewed carpet guy?

SPEAKER_03 29:43

Yes, Kevin.

SPEAKER_01 29:45

You just made that up.

SPEAKER_03 29:48

That's what I literally.

SPEAKER_01 29:49

Surely his name's not Kevin.

SPEAKER_02 29:54

Especially if he sees that you are filming him. He will either hide his face from your camera or he will glare at you back to him.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

He doesn't want to be the carpet guy. Which tells me it's a king, right?

SPEAKER_03 30:03

Bad carpet guy.

SPEAKER_01 30:05

Okay, maybe this is part of it that we're shaming him, is also part of the Kevin the Carpet Guy, look it. You think they just made that name up for him?

SPEAKER_03 30:13

No, they probably asked him.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

Yeah, you guys know John Chungus was a was a psyop. He wasn't real. Remember the rat hole in Chicago?

SPEAKER_03 30:21

Oh, the rat hole. That was probably real. Remember the fish pond? Yes, so sweet. The rat hole Chicago and in New York. It was there was like a sidewalk aquarium. Sidewalk aquarium.

SPEAKER_01 30:36

Alright.

SPEAKER_03 30:36

There's a leaking fire hydrant that had made like a little atrium kind of aquarium s. Okay, I remember I'm remembering. And people put fish in it.

SPEAKER_00 30:44

Do you have anything like that going on in our neck of the woods?

SPEAKER_03 30:47

Nothing good happens here.

SPEAKER_00 30:48

Nothing good happens.

SPEAKER_03 30:50

Nothing good happens. Except for Little House Coffee. Nothing good happens. Stop moving here. Stop moving here. We need to make something happen. Um, well, the work from home guy.

SPEAKER_02 31:08

Yeah, he made it work.

SPEAKER_03 31:10

He made it work and then he got got and then he partly. He made it work on it. And he did the work from home situation. Oh he's doing it. Yeah, he's doing it at uh Gallagher Square. It's during a day game.

SPEAKER_02 31:22

I heard about this June 6th or something like that. June 8th. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not going, but personally, but it is a cool idea. I like it. Anyway, anytime to get new fans, anyways to get new fans, you know, we'll take them.

SPEAKER_01 31:34

What's up, 6-7? Yeah, I was just hitting a little 6-7. June six, maybe G7.

SPEAKER_03 31:39

Where are your buddies and uh the Padgers? How are they doing? Um they're kind of in a schlump. They're in a schlump. A schlinky schlump.

SPEAKER_01 31:47

Boy, did you see that guy get um cleated in the face? That was the game I was at, was the cleated in the face guy. The face guy. Yeah. Poor old guy got cleated.

SPEAKER_02 31:57

We were kind of close. We were in the middle, I thought. Oh, Arizona just jumped us. Yikes! We're four behind the Dodgers. Wow. Long season. Poor's not bad, actually, now that I think about it. Yeah. Well, how much time do we have? Because I have another thing, but I think we should I think I should wait for a different show.

SPEAKER_01 32:18

I would love for you to do that. No, no, no, no, no. There's like you got like ten minutes. I don't know, five, six, seven minutes.

SPEAKER_02 32:24

Um maybe it won't take that long, so I'll say. But I've been following on the vein of social media. I'm I have I don't follow this person, but they come up on my feet a lot. Okay. It's this woman that lives in Kentucky, and she is pregnant, and her whole like shtick, not shtick, it's like her life, but she her whole social media hook is like, I'm not going to the doctor's at all for my entire pregnancy.

SPEAKER_03 32:48

Didn't she watch the pit?

unknown 32:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:51

I'm like, she literally like I don't know how to feel about it because I there's a part of me that thinks, well, my initial reaction is that's crazy, right? Right. Because you should see a doctor, especially if you it's available to you, why not? Right?

SPEAKER_01 33:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:03

And like I know there's benefit to prenatal vitamins and things like that that way that I know nothing about. But also the second part of it goes, she kind of that's her whole thing about the social media is like, well, you know, like our bodies are resilient, and that women have been having babies for years without hospitals, and the hospitals are kind of conditioning you to think that you need them. And there's a little part of my brain that goes like, maybe there's some truth to that. Like, like we are conditioned to go to the hospital. She doesn't they don't go to the hospital at all.

SPEAKER_03 33:35

So nothing.

SPEAKER_02 33:36

Nothing.

SPEAKER_03 33:37

She's not that episode. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:40

Uh-huh. Sure, but I think it's but those shows are like they could create some sort of like story behind it, you know, to make it seem like those were like.

SPEAKER_03 33:49

She had to have at least one appointment.

SPEAKER_02 33:52

She and she had her first way. She she has two babies. She has she's like seven months pregnant. She's and she like they have like a homestead. They have chickens and mil and and goats, and they they of course they're hawking some oil that they make and sell online. But I'm like, it's just a very interesting thing to me because I'm like, it starts to like deconstruct a little bit. Obviously, I believe in doctors, and I'm going to the hospital. But I'm saying it is kind of interesting to go, yeah. I mean, like, you know, hospitals are kind of in the last couple hundred years, probably, right? I mean, like the f like 200, maybe, maybe I I don't know the exact, but like a hundred years ago, probably 150 now, they didn't like go to hospitals, you just had the baby at home. Yeah, it was kind of just the way it was. But sure. And then you possibly die.

SPEAKER_01 34:38

I think you're also right. Okay, here's here's my take. Go ahead. I think we're understating how effective modern medicine is. I mean, we're 200, 300 years ago, sure, there was five billion people on this earth. Now there's eight billion people on this earth because they're because they're just not dying like they used to, which is great.

SPEAKER_03 34:58

Uh, people just don't die like they used to. Now natural selection, not a thing.

SPEAKER_01 35:02

Do I do I believe that somebody could have a healthy baby at home? Yeah, probably. I think that's a fairly privileged take. Sure. I think that it's also like, you know, like health.

SPEAKER_02 35:16

Her whole thing is like, I know my body, I know what it needs. And I'm like going, Do I know my body? Do I know my body? No, I do not know my body. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 35:24

Not even a little bit do I know what's going on in that.

SPEAKER_02 35:27

She drinks raw milk. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:29

It's always it's always one of those raw milk people.

SPEAKER_02 35:32

And she like one of the videos, she's like taking a she's eating a raw yolk of an egg, which I'm like, I know it's not necessarily bad for you. I'm like, this isn't gross. It's just salmonella. I mean, it's bad for you. It's bad.

SPEAKER_01 35:43

I think it's inherently irresponsible to go on the internet and be like, here's what everybody should do about their health. Because there's so many different walks of life, and there's so many different people that don't have the same access to healthcare or have, you know, the ability to just not have healthcare. Right. I'm just gonna choose to not. Right. I I'm obvious she's obviously living in a way that she can raise her kid at home and she can give birth and she can be on the internet and span her ideas.

SPEAKER_03 36:13

It's so funny she's she's paying not to go to a hospital or doctor, but she's probably paying for a thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars for like a doula.

SPEAKER_01 36:23

Right, right.

SPEAKER_03 36:24

Which I'm sorry, that's a doctor.

SPEAKER_01 36:26

Right.

SPEAKER_02 36:27

Yeah, I don't know, she didn't go into the details of that. It's interesting. But yeah, I just it it started like kind of a war in my mind of like has I mean, obviously medicine is one thing. I think modern medicine is as good as a positive in general. But I'm like, how many things have like the society, I guess you know, moving forward, moving the rock forward, has changed our way of thinking of like you know, oh I have to go, you know, I have to do this, this, and this is like how it is, you know.

SPEAKER_03 36:53

Even like diets for pregnant ladies is such a privilege in our society too, of like you can't eat this and you have to eat this and you can't do this and you can't do that. There's other countries in which like eating is eating, and that's a privilege in itself. And like there is yeah, there is no access to. Yeah, there is no like, oh, don't eat the raw fish. It's like, no, that's what they have to eat.

SPEAKER_01 37:12

For sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:13

And I and that's the other thing too, is in these videos, their little daughter, they eat like the daughter. There's like a video of the daughter taking like a piece of raw meat and eating it.

SPEAKER_01 37:20

I'm like, Oi, it all it's never an isolated thing. Again, when I see these people on social media, it's never like just oh, we're just about home birth. It's like we're raising our kid with no vaccines and raw milk and liver king. Like, it's like liver king's it's always like back to the liver king. And I'm like, that is not and he ended up being a fraud, he ended up being a big liar where he was like so clearly taking this girl.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

And then there's another girl, she's not as holistic, she's a little more civilized, but she does she make her own um kombucha, uh-huh. And she's not not even for scary, not even that, but also she's like, I grew up, my mom made kombucha before it was popular, and she's like, We didn't we didn't take medicine, we just constantly had kombucha, and she's like, that's what keep us healthy. And I was like, Really? I'm like, in my head.

SPEAKER_03 38:10

Honey, that's how GT Dave, the biggest kombucha brand in the world. That was his thing. He thought his kombucha cured his mom's cancer.

SPEAKER_02 38:18

Crazy.

SPEAKER_03 38:18

That was like the whole thing behind it. I mean, it was used as holistic medicine before it became a bubbly drink.

SPEAKER_02 38:25

She's using this scoby, and it's like a scoby that she inherited from a friend. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 38:30

It's like sourdough style. My teacher in high school before kombucha had blown up. My teacher in high school, I remember being like, must have been juniors, and she had told all of us that she had they they also call it like a mother. A big mushroom. Yeah, like we have a mother. I have a mother. That makes a new layer and you can split it. I have a mother for kombucha. If any of you want to make your own kombucha, you can't do it. It's the same as sourdough starter. You could you can pass around just a tiny tiny bit and grow. SCOBY, you could not like I know it's probably fine.

SPEAKER_01 38:59

Should we make a podcast uh kombucha, you think?

SPEAKER_02 39:01

I know it's probably fine with that.

SPEAKER_03 39:04

SCOBYS look like the top, like if you took a mushroom topic. It's like a jellyfish. Yeah, basically. Yeah, like gooey.

SPEAKER_02 39:10

Oh, it's so disgusting. I literally'm like I every time she puts it out, like I can't. I literally can't be you watch it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:18

Here's what I'll say for the kombucha mom. Here's what I'll say for her. Yeah, what exactly for her? These apps incentivize saying crazy things. Yeah, they uh they reward it immediately with views and money, quite literally money. So I think that somebody that maybe has a middle of the road view on anything could be pushed one way or the other just be by having any kind of platform, being you know, a little bit successful towards one way.

SPEAKER_02 39:46

Kombucha bomb is a little bit different because she also made like this um what's that um holiday fruit cake? What's it called? Fruitcake? Fruitcake? Is it just called fruitcake? There's not like a name to it. She made one, but she like she made it six months in advance, and it sat in like a sealed, a wax sealed thing for like six months. And then during Christmas, you buy alcohol over it, you light it on fire, and then you chop it up.

SPEAKER_03 40:10

You buy them in like tins. You can buy fruitcake in like tins. Crazy. There's they're supposed to sit down. So she's not like super holistic.

SPEAKER_02 40:16

But the back to the crime documentary, really quick. I wonder if that that holistic mom who's doing no doctors, if say something went drastically wrong. I mean, she's living a public lifestyle, she's supposed to be on social media. We we would people wouldn't probably know if she unless she chose not to share it, that she had some sort of complication. Is that like a CPS thing? Like, like, is she responsible for getting healthcare as being as like you know, being pregnant? If you lose that baby in the way that you choose to deliver it, I think it depends on the state.

SPEAKER_01 40:45

I think absolutely there would be repercussions. Um, but it in the general sense, I think that you can physically.

SPEAKER_03 40:54

But also, but also would you say that for anyone who loses a baby?

SPEAKER_02 40:57

No, I'm but but I'm saying Just because she was negligent. I think I think the reason you go to a doctor. I think in my opinion, like the doctor's helping you, but I think the doctor's kind of an insurance policy, right?

SPEAKER_01 41:09

Like if you're doing all the things that you're doing. If you could prove that the kid was sick for a long time and she didn't do anything, then yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:15

But if she don't have a legality to go to a doctor if she gets preclepsia and doesn't know it, yeah, that's her health, not the city. Yeah, that's not the baby's. And then and then with that, it's like if they've Some people do that.

SPEAKER_02 41:28

Some people don't take the ibuprofen or whatever it is to prevent precympsia. Like they they choose not to baby aspirin.

SPEAKER_03 41:35

Well, that's the same with my I mean I take it. My sister did a prolonged cord clamping, like they waited to cut the cord, and they told her, they said, hey, this like increases the risk of jaundice. Yeah. And then my nephew got jaundice, and he went to Little Baby Spa first week. He put him on a little blue light, he came back. Oh, yeah, for a couple days. Yeah. Baby spa baby spa.

SPEAKER_02 41:55

I wanted to do that too, but Jordan was cut open, so they had to cut the cord like that. Yeah, they just really gotta sell her up. We we would delay this.

SPEAKER_03 42:04

But like she's bleeding around.

SPEAKER_02 42:07

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 42:08

We kind of gotta close her up. Close it up.

SPEAKER_01 42:10

It's kind of interesting. Maybe we talk about that more in the post show. I think we I want to get into some of the weeds of that because it's uh fascinating to me. The legality of being a bad person. How bad of a person can you be legally? And if you're interested in hearing about that, you're gonna love this week's post show. Folks, this podcast is supported by Patreon. Head on down to the link in the bio to become a Patreon member right now. Right now. For $4 a month, you can get access to the post show. That's an extra episode of the podcast we do every single week. It's amazing. It's fun. We get to talking about all kinds of crazy wacky stuff. So go on down to the link in the bio. Become a Patreon supporter. Thanks in advance for doing that. Guys. What an episode. We really did it. We made it happen. Who would have thought? What are we eating for dinner tonight?

SPEAKER_03 43:03

I heard a crazy thing. I overheard a crazy thing at the gym that I have to talk to you guys about.

SPEAKER_01 43:08

Oh, can't wait to hear about it. On the couch as always, Garrett DeFoya, and it's Ghost Government. I'm Ryan. I'm John.

SPEAKER_03 43:14

And we'll see you next week on What the Podcast! It was truly wild, and I can't believe I forgot to bring it up earlier.

SPEAKER_01 43:21

Yeah, you didn't even mention gym-related anything.

SPEAKER_03 43:25

Jim Govman. We didn't talk about the impending chemical disaster that is no more. Well, it's no more.

SPEAKER_01 43:34

I love when Annie tunes in. Did it turn off? Did they cool off?

SPEAKER_03 43:37

Did it turn off? It did. It turned off. It turned off.