SPEAKER_01 0:24

Oh my god. Are we so afraid of Annie?

SPEAKER_02 0:46

It's also my candle because I didn't hear it.

SPEAKER_01 0:49

She gave it to you. It became yours. That's cool.

SPEAKER_02 0:52

She gave me this candle? But it didn't come from my house? I thought it came from inside. I don't know. I think it's like a really holiday. You ever get like obsessed with something in your house, like some sort of improvement in your house?

SPEAKER_01 1:03

Hold on a second.

unknown 1:06

Save it.

SPEAKER_01 1:08

You just love it when I start off like the house. I'm like, you're so good at podcasting, man. As soon as you start, it's like shoot, we gotta just record randomly. Yes. Do you ever have a dream that you when when you when you Hi everybody, welcome back to What the Podcast. Alright, simmer down, simmer down. We have lots to talk about.

SPEAKER_02 1:29

Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

I'm Ryan. And I'm John. And together we are. Ryan and John. Back again.

SPEAKER_02 1:35

Come on.

SPEAKER_01 1:35

It's like we never left.

SPEAKER_02 1:36

Matching cups. Almost got you a different cup because I thought this could be bad. What if I drink out of your cup, you drink out of my cup?

SPEAKER_01 1:41

I'm gonna keep mine up here.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

But it's not that serious, really, I don't think.

SPEAKER_01 1:44

We could share a cup. Joining us this week, my lovely wife, Cara DeFoy. Hey honey. Hi, uh happy birthday. Mint it newly from a couple weeks ago. Oh, we didn't hardly even talk about that. I know. Let's jump right into that.

SPEAKER_02 2:02

How are you feeling? You've been 30 for several weeks now. How are you feeling?

SPEAKER_00 2:05

Great. I feel great. Alright. Goodbye, 20s. Goodbye, 20s. Sad.

SPEAKER_01 2:11

Me and my wife had a really sweet moment where it turned midnight on her birthday, and I was like, happy birthday. And she was like, My twenties are over. And I and it really got me. I was like, oh my god. Like, because she really meant it too. Like sad.

SPEAKER_02 2:26

And soon you'll be saying my 30s are over. Yeah, I feel like And you'll be blinking and you'll say my 40s are over.

SPEAKER_00 2:32

The twenti the teens and the 20s are the most important thing.

SPEAKER_02 2:35

You know what's weird is going to be great for you guys.

SPEAKER_01 2:37

Everyone that's in their like 30s say that 30s are the best years. For the record, I'm just my parents are in their 50s and my dad's like, yeah, the 50s are the best. Like the best years are your fifty when you turn 50.

SPEAKER_02 2:51

See, I think after that it's people coping with it. I think so too. I think 30 years are going, it's the best decade. I'm like, really? Are you making better being 30? You're having a hard time. Because I never justified 20s. I never justified 20s at all. I never went, oh, the 20s are my favorite. When I was in them, I was kind of like, oh, this is awesome.

SPEAKER_01 3:09

Depend like as opposed to what? Like your teens or your tens?

SPEAKER_02 3:17

Um exciting decade of your life.

SPEAKER_01 3:20

Your 20s?

SPEAKER_02 3:21

Yeah. Because 30, it's either this. It's when you turn 30, it's either you're getting so serious about your life and career and development, or you're not, and you're getting really incredibly stressed about it. You're like on that cusp. Whereas 20s is like, oh, you're 26, you have a fun still have fun. You can have a whole new career. You can still, well, you could have a career, but it's getting a little tight. And 40 is just like, come on, man, figure it out.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

The phrase is your twenties are for learning, your 30s are for earning, and your forties are for owning. Right. And your 50s are for enjoying.

SPEAKER_00 3:57

I feel like bump all those back 10 years. I feel like your teens are for learning. Your 20s are for earning.

SPEAKER_01 4:04

I learned so much in my 20s and my teens, I didn't learn jack all.

SPEAKER_02 4:13

Girls are smarter.

SPEAKER_01 4:14

Like your brain develops in the world. Yeah, totally. Fact. Um I feel like I didn't earn anything. I didn't learn anything.

SPEAKER_02 4:25

Can I try one?

SPEAKER_01 4:27

Can I see that?

SPEAKER_02 4:32

What okay? Where'd you get these bad girls?

SPEAKER_00 4:34

I thought about the SWAT meet. You look awesome.

SPEAKER_01 4:38

You look awesome. John, I'm not exaggerating. The hat plus the glasses. Those were mine. Those were mine originally.

SPEAKER_00 4:45

No, those were always mine. I got those at the SWAT meet.

SPEAKER_01 4:47

Okay. Guys, I hate to break it to you. They're mine. 50-50. They're yours now. It's 30-30-30. 30-30-30.

SPEAKER_00 4:54

I already told Ryan. All my 30s. Always stuff for my 30th birthday. Everyone's getting it. The sash, the glasses. Oh, yeah. So get ready.

SPEAKER_01 5:02

All that stuff. Oh hell 30.

SPEAKER_02 5:04

Oh hell. That was good stuff. You're I'll I'll say this, and I knew this about your family. Your family just really embraces birthdays. The Phillies just know how to like.

SPEAKER_01 5:14

Make it special.

SPEAKER_02 5:14

They they they really do make it special. And then my favorite part, this was weeks ago, so I hardly remember it. Yeah. Um is the chocolate curve with strawberries. They they bought this crazy chocolate. I love it. And I was like, and I gotta go, do you like chocolate strawberries? You're like, I do. And I was like, Do you like really like them? You're like, well, no, I just I do I mean I like them. And I was like, well then why are they here? And she's like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 5:37

And I was like, it is a it's a time-intensive uh treat. Like it's not just like a whip, I thought it was chocolate or something.

SPEAKER_02 5:44

I thought it was like, oh, Kara loves chocolate, and I was going, oh my gosh, did I not know this about Kara?

SPEAKER_00 5:49

Which I'll say it. I do love chocolate strawberries. You missed it. You missed it. I do love it. And she's not she's not afraid of saying that. I love chocolate strawberries. It was a surprise because that's never been a thing for birthdays. Yeah, it's been a thing for like my parents' anniversaries or mother's day. Romantic type. Well, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 6:06

Husband-to-wife events, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 6:08

30 flirty and prego party seem kind of random, right? I don't know. Everyone loved them. They were delicious.

SPEAKER_01 6:14

So maybe we need to normalize chocolate-covered strawberries at an event.

SPEAKER_02 6:18

Yeah, I'm gonna bring them next time.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

You should. I'm gonna bring no, actually, your 30th birthday is coming up. I'm bringing you some. To lip sync.

SPEAKER_00 6:25

See, I love I love a fruity.

SPEAKER_02 6:27

A big huge tray. A fruity chocolate. Hundreds of strawberries.

SPEAKER_01 6:31

You do love a fruity chocolate.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

I do love a fruity chocolate.

SPEAKER_01 6:34

Name one other fruity chocolate that you like. Like a chocolate.

SPEAKER_00 6:37

Chocolate-covered banana.

SPEAKER_01 6:38

Oh, yeah. True. True. I don't know why my mind went to like a chocolate fountain, but like you have little fruits.

SPEAKER_00 6:45

My friend had a had a spa birthday party one time when we were maybe nine or ten. Yeah. And instead of like a cheese fondue party, it was like a it was a chocolate fountain. And there's a whole spread, and then there's a table with the chocolate and the fruits and like pretzels and like all that stuff. And then over here is all of us with our feet in like pedicare tubs. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 7:09

Awesome. Did I tell you about the lady at church that thinks I'm upset obsessed with chocolate? I told you did I do it on here?

SPEAKER_01 7:14

Oh, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 7:14

Uh but there's a lady on church that thinks I'm like one time we had candy at church, it was like post-Halloween or something, and I was like, Oh, I'll take it, like I'll take it and put it in my drawer at my desk. And she's like, cool. And then every time there's candy, she like intentionally brings it to me. Yeah. And then lately she went on a trip to Hawaii and she came back and she's like, Oh, I got you something from Hawaii. Again, friends of mine. I I I see her a lot. Like, we have a relationship, or you know, I know her pretty well. And I was like, Oh, that's really sweet. I'm like, that's really nice of you to give me something from Hawaii. She got like this variety pack of Jalic Carbon Macadamia. Come on. And she and she's like, Which bomb. I love it. Fully checked out. But at the same time, she's like, she gives it to me, she goes, I just knew my little chocolate would love it. And I go, Thank you, thank you. Who is that? Fast forward, fast forward to there was a women's event a couple weekends ago.

SPEAKER_01 8:05

I just knew my little chocolate would love it.

SPEAKER_02 8:07

Fast forward to this women's event a couple weeks ago, and at the women's event they had a chocolate fountain, which was kind of lame. It was a small one. And they're like setting it up. Doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I know, I know. That's so good. Unnecessary detail.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

By the way, it was kind of lame, but it was small. It was a small one. It was a small one.

SPEAKER_02 8:26

It was a small one. I'd never seen one so small. I'll say that much. But and then they're setting it up. They're setting it up the day before, and I stop by to like do like a tech run-through for like with because they're doing worship and stuff. And she goes, she sees me, and then she sees the table, because she's part of the sub team. She goes, Oh, I know what he's gonna want. And I go, This is more of a fact. Make way for chocolate. This is more of my fatching. Make way. Oh, get out of the way, ladies. I'm no dude. I know where I know where John's gonna be spending his time.

SPEAKER_01 8:56

I know where you're gonna be. What? Chocolic. You're gonna be at that tiny chocolate fountain.

SPEAKER_00 9:02

It's all over chocolate. If they had chocolate-covered strawberries with sprinkles on the table, I'd be at that table.

SPEAKER_01 9:10

I will say, like so funny. I know where you're gonna be, big boy.

SPEAKER_02 9:14

That's literally how it felt.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

Post up right next to the chocolate fountain. Where's John? Oh I know where he is.

SPEAKER_02 9:21

He's at the chocolate fountain table. Because it's one thing I I will admit I have a sweet tooth. I like it, like I like a little sweet tooth. You're a chocolate. But I'm not, it's not specifically chocolate. It's not like I love chocolate. It's like I like a little Sour Patch kid, you know, like a little candy, you know? You do you have a sweet tooth.

SPEAKER_01 9:39

You do.

SPEAKER_00 9:39

I'm definitely more of a chocolate.

SPEAKER_01 9:42

I'll be the first to say I'm a chocolate. I love chocolate. I love chocolate in anything. Chocolate flavor of stuff. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 9:48

Um you know what I have that you need to try? I have chocolate-covered cornets.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

Chocolate-covered cornets. Ouchy. Oh. Did you make them? No, I Trader Joe's has them. I love the look on your face when you're chocolate-covered cornnuts.

SPEAKER_02 10:01

You gotta try these. You gotta try them.

SPEAKER_01 10:03

Okay. They're interesting. From one chocolate to another, I'll try them.

SPEAKER_02 10:06

No, I'm not you are.

SPEAKER_01 10:09

You're among friends, John. I know.

SPEAKER_00 10:11

There was a long time where my family always had ice cream in the in the freezer. Always. There was a time where it was only sherbet for a while.

SPEAKER_01 10:20

Who was the Sherbert eater?

SPEAKER_00 10:22

Noah and Emma.

SPEAKER_01 10:23

I love Sherbert.

SPEAKER_00 10:24

That's not me. Rainbow Sherbet, orange Sherbert.

SPEAKER_01 10:28

My brother is an orange creamsicle guy. Loves a 50-50 bar.

unknown 10:33

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 10:34

So he did traditionally, I don't know what he's eating these days.

SPEAKER_02 10:36

One of my favorite desserts that he did traditionally, but I don't know what he's eating these days.

SPEAKER_00 10:41

Mom would surprise us with strawberry shortcakes for dessert, like anal food cake, whipped cream, strawberry. So we had a lot of strawberry cake.

SPEAKER_01 10:49

Strawberry shortcake. I was just thinking about when you were talking about spa party. Spa party. Um how my sister like had she has phases and still kind of has like phases. She had this whole phase where she was like into like spa stuff. Like as a small kid, like a seven-year-old being like really into like wanting a foot bath.

SPEAKER_03 11:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:11

And I'm just thinking about like we're about to have a daughter, and like how funny that like sometimes Lily, sometimes my niece does like funny little things like that where she's into whatever. Oh, watching it. And I would just I'm just thinking about like how funny that would be. Yeah. Like you raise this daughter, and then one day she's like, Yeah, I just need to be pampered.

SPEAKER_00 11:29

She only grew up with one sister.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

Which is so fun. Like, everything she did was like a funny little thing like that. Like she had these phases where she was just like, Yeah, she would like sleep with a sleep mask.

SPEAKER_02 11:40

Really? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 11:41

And I don't know if she liked it or not, but like it was more about having it and like putting on the sleep mask.

SPEAKER_00 11:47

I always had sleepovers. I had with my cousins.

SPEAKER_01 11:49

What the hell is going on over here?

SPEAKER_00 11:51

Tom's playing with fire.

SPEAKER_01 11:52

Stop putting stuff in the it smells like a freaking bonfire.

SPEAKER_02 11:54

Well, it's supposed to be a bonfire episode, and you totally mixed the bonfire, so now I need a box.

SPEAKER_01 11:59

I nixed the bonfire. Okay, you know what? Where's the lid for the candle? Put the lid on.

SPEAKER_02 12:03

There is no lid. It's like hanging out. Oh, careful! You just re- Oh, you relit it. Oh my god. Oh my god. It's a brand new match.

SPEAKER_00 12:10

No, he's using old ones.

SPEAKER_01 12:11

I'm using old matches. Stop doing that.

unknown 12:13

Alright.

SPEAKER_02 12:14

Alright, we'll have to just chill out, okay? It's gonna be alright. Oh my god. Toss one more thing.

SPEAKER_01 12:18

Oh my god, just one more for good measure.

SPEAKER_00 12:19

I'm surprised you're not excited about this. You would love to.

SPEAKER_01 12:22

No, it was getting out of hand. It was getting far too out of hand. Oh no Carol.

SPEAKER_02 12:26

You're gonna turn your coaster black. It doesn't matter about the coaster. We're in here recording a podcast.

SPEAKER_01 12:31

Disregard the coaster. There's no luckily there's no fire alarm in here, so we're good. We're good to go. We won't be uh contacted by the case.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

I was just thinking you need like a little um a little, you know, like um snuffer? Barrel. You know, like a like you know, like a metal barrel, a large metal barrel. I know barrel. I need like a miniature one that I can make a little dumpster fire every episode.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

Like a little trash campfire. That's so good. You do need that.

SPEAKER_00 12:53

My favorite thing about being an ultra server was making the big sticks and the snuffer. Yeah, I'm getting all the changes.

SPEAKER_01 13:00

Do you have any um do you have any close calls as an ultra server?

SPEAKER_00 13:03

No, I was a girl.

SPEAKER_01 13:05

I don't know. I don't know who's in there. Uh I don't know. I don't know how it works. She said, No, I was a girl. That's fair. That's fair. I guess she's a rock. She never got spotlighted. That's fine. Um well that's wonderful. I'm happy for you. Thank you. Um I don't know, guys. This is one of those weeks.

SPEAKER_02 13:23

I was uh I was saying before we started the episode, you cut me off because you're gonna be able to get it.

SPEAKER_01 13:27

Please, hold on. Go ahead, John.

SPEAKER_02 13:30

I was saying that do you ever get like the random obsession with something like like a to-do around the house? Like, let me give you an example of what I've been lately been thinking about. Thank you. I'm trying to extinguish all the fly population in my yard and in my house. Heard. And I just want like a nuclear option. Got it. I want something that's going scorched earth. Yeah, I I I don't want to see a fly in my area ever again. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 14:00

Where where is the biggest um The grass? The grass.

SPEAKER_02 14:03

I mean the grass is is is it's absolutely insane.

SPEAKER_01 14:06

I will say just 30,000 feet. It could be the dog poop.

SPEAKER_02 14:10

No, 100% it is. But I'm saying like I and and I I I totally see that, but I'm saying like I'd I need I need like a something by the door that attracts them so that because the reality is there's always gonna be dog poop. You know what I'm saying? Like there's like this is what it is.

SPEAKER_00 14:23

You gotta get the big zappers your parents have.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

I know he has free ride of the yard, which I'm assuming keeps you from having to take him out and take him out and take him out. So he has access to the yard. So there's gonna be poop in the yard.

SPEAKER_02 14:36

There's gonna be poop in the yard. And then I thank God it's not in your house.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

I'll admit that'd be horrible.

SPEAKER_02 14:39

I'll admit, yeah, I'm not the rest of picking it up, and I'm working on that. I'm working on that. So maybe that's put that out there, and you saw it out there, that's one week. Because I cleaned the yard intentionally last time we recorded last week. So that is Thursday to Thursday, that's seven days.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 14:54

Doesn't that feel like a lot of dog poop for the phone?

SPEAKER_01 14:55

Think about how many times you poop. Well, is it seven? Not every day, is it seven activities? Because maybe maybe the and I'm and I'm approaching this with love and because you've brought up the fly situation.

SPEAKER_02 15:07

Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 15:08

Maybe at the end of every day, it's like one piece of poop you pick up. I know. Instead of at the end of the week. I understand the you know, clean it up at the end of the week. I will let the trash pile up for a little too long sometimes. Yeah. And then Kara's finally like, we need to take it to the trash house. Right. But that's part of life, is finding your rhythms. I think um, isn't it? We always have a bad fly problem at our house and summertime. It's summertime. Always when it's the heat. When it gets hot, the flies and the horse flies come out.

SPEAKER_00 15:42

Oh my gosh, they're like this big. We don't know where they come from.

SPEAKER_01 15:46

They just come out of the ground. I think they do hibernate underground and then they're huge.

SPEAKER_00 15:51

But we have cats, so they get them.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

So they've been killing us.

SPEAKER_02 15:54

See, you know, I was thinking, I saw on TikTok, it was like That's our own. Have mice get a cat. Have bugs get a cat. Yeah. You'll only get a cat.

SPEAKER_01 16:02

Cats are great.

SPEAKER_00 16:03

Until the cats start bringing you. See, but I guess.

SPEAKER_01 16:07

Well, if you have an outside cat. We have a mostly inside cat.

SPEAKER_02 16:10

No, no, because Dee brought you a June bug the other day. Well, yeah, that's fine. June bugs are fine. How much maintenance are cats, be honest?

SPEAKER_01 16:16

Very little maintenance.

SPEAKER_02 16:17

Maintenance?

SPEAKER_00 16:18

Yeah. They don't have to get groomed.

SPEAKER_01 16:20

I twice a day. I'll scoop the litter box. Twice a day. In the morning, and then they poop in it all day long and then at night. Yeah. Because they poop there's two cats. So you could probably get away with doing it once if you had one cat. But I'm doing it twice a day. Because they poop a lot. Luckily it's all in the box now. So that's great. We've gotten past that. It was. Um and then we feed them, we feed them and scoop the box twice a day. Yeah. And that's literally all you have to buy into.

SPEAKER_00 16:49

Which if we had I feel like if most places have to keep their litter boxes in their house in their bathroom, I feel like every time I'd be going to that bathroom, I'd be scooping.

SPEAKER_01 16:59

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 17:00

But since ours is in that indoor-outdoor area, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:04

I the dog door, as you know, has been revolutionary for our house. That's a big deal. But the other day I've been taking the dog door out and when we do these recordings because we're kind of in and out through the backyard a lot, and it's definitely not very fun to like, you know, to go through. It's not a very big opening with the dog door. So I took it out last week and then I put it back in, and I forgot that I put the little cover over the dog door portion. So I woke up in the middle of the night and I could smell it.

SPEAKER_00 17:32

And I was like, Damn. Dang it.

SPEAKER_02 17:34

I actually woke up and I went and it all flooded into my brain. I was like, oh, I never took the door off. Like, you know, you know. P. Sherman 42 while be with TV. You know how something how you see something and your brain doesn't fully register it when you're seeing it, and then later on your brain goes, Oh, the dog was on. Yep. And why didn't I take it off? Like I didn't even like and so I went downstairs and he and he had he had peed and pooped in the house. But that's not his fault, so I wasn't mad at him.

SPEAKER_01 17:58

But he didn't have access to the door.

SPEAKER_02 17:59

No, and I'm sure he tried. I mean he he's he that's the one thing that's nice about well, not the one thing, he's a good dog, but one of the better things about him is like if he can go outside, he'll go outside.

SPEAKER_01 18:10

Is he mostly going to the bathroom at night or is it like a couple times during the day too?

SPEAKER_02 18:13

I know I mean well during the day he spends a lot of time. He spends like a third of the day in the box because we're at work.

SPEAKER_01 18:20

Maybe you just build in, you know, five minutes a day. Check the check the yard in the morning. I know. Clean up the one poop instead of seven poops.

SPEAKER_02 18:29

I know, I know. You're good to go. But it it I I really still feel.

SPEAKER_01 18:33

Or get him a letter box.

SPEAKER_00 18:35

Gosh, the amount of times that we had to clean up poop in the house.

SPEAKER_01 18:37

Oh, yeah, right. I know. We followed the whole poop saga. Yeah. That was my life. I get it, man.

SPEAKER_00 18:42

That see, the waking up in the middle of the night thing, for us it wasn't the smell, it was the sound of the action. Because it was so loud. Oh my god. So it'd be in the hallway and it echoed.

SPEAKER_01 18:55

I am so grateful that we got that figured out before we had a kid.

SPEAKER_02 18:58

Yeah. Because if that was going on with baby. It could come back.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

Oh my gosh. One of the That's true. He did didn't he poop in the in the baby room? Yes. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 19:09

That was the car. That was towards the beginning.

SPEAKER_02 19:10

I will be shocked if your cats don't have a little father with a baby tree. Because he was like, he was like targeting it. Like he he was peeing on baskets in there repeat, which where we were like in the habit, and we still have it, where we like, oh, if I walk by that door, I close it. Because I'm like, now that that we're settled, he doesn't. And like I said, now that we have the doggy door. But it was like if he had, and I I don't think it was intentional other than the fact that it was in that room, because if he had to go to the bathroom, I was convinced he was going to the nursery and doing it there. Rather than doing it downstairs.

SPEAKER_01 19:45

How much time is Jack spending in the nursery? Not a damn second.

SPEAKER_02 19:49

Dang. That's why I was like, I was laughing because uh we we have a month monthly uh really sweet lady comes and cleans her house for us, and she's got a company, she's got a little business, she does all the our families' houses, and so her name's Emma. I love her. And so she comes once a month, and I was like, You don't really need to clean the house. You don't really need to go in the house? Are you sure I can do it? And I was like, It's literally the last time you were here, it's the exact same. Like maybe a little dust.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

Does she have a flat fee or does she charge you when she's done? And she's like, Yeah, that was really dirty.

SPEAKER_02 20:19

She well, our house, she's like, Yeah, actually it's gonna be uh, you know, five. Our house, I mean, it's it's a lot more than I think I I could probably find a cheaper price. But I like her, and she and they're really quick. She brings like she brings a whole crew of people and they're in and out and they she loves Artie and she like always asks about Artie. She's always like, Where's the dog? I'm like, he's in the box. I'm like, we're not home. You know, like we're not like he's not gonna let him out for a while. She doesn't really understand that he like the his whole personality, the escape plans, but um, yeah, I mean she's great. I mean, I pay $160 once a month, but I know Oh, I was gonna say way more.

SPEAKER_01 20:55

That's great.

SPEAKER_02 20:56

Yeah, and I and I I give her a little bit more when I know it's really bad. Like, like, like this last time, we didn't have a ton of time to like prep. Like, you know, and so I gave her 200, which is you know, a little bit more.

SPEAKER_00 21:08

A little tip on the top if I know it's really bad.

SPEAKER_02 21:11

And then um, but yeah, I mean she's it's nice because obviously there's you could do it, and you you you carry your great at like you know keeping your house clean and having a lot of things.

SPEAKER_00 21:19

I was just gonna say, I don't know if I could have someone else clean the house. I'd be like, Did you put this back where it was before?

SPEAKER_02 21:26

She's not putting anything back to be fair. She's and and Annie watched her. I mean, Annie.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

What's she doing?

SPEAKER_02 21:30

Scrapping the floors, doing the windows, walls, yeah, what windows, walls, she's dusting. See, I'd feel bad. I'd be like, But she does remove the whole kitchen table. But she does this thing. You pay $200. She does, she does this thing though, and Annie, Annie watched her one time because she was working from home and we were at our old apartment. And Annie was like, I d because I never knew how it happened. I just but Annie said, like, we had remember that long black end table we used to have in our old apartment. It was like against the wall and had a bunch of little thick pictures and stuff on it, and we had a little keyboard and all that stuff. And Annie said she watched that. That table, that big table, the lady took everything off of it. Yeah. She wiped down the whole table. She wiped down every item as she put it down. Wow. Wow. And I mean their crew is incredible. Like and if I if you got laundry on the floor, I mean, like I said, we're not we're not great at that. She she'll just pile it into a into a laundry basket. The one thing is she won't do laundry. She takes the dirty sheets off, she throws them in the washer, she starts them. If she knows how if she tells her how to do it, she'll do it. But the only thing is she doesn't, and it's again not her fault. She's trying to do her job. But she like, if you have a bag of clean laundry, I mean a basket of clean liner, basket of dirty liner. Oh, it's all the same. Oh yeah. And so I have to, I feel like I have to do it. So you gotta know when she's coming laundry. Yeah. Because I'm like, I like literally sometimes I put it in the closet. I'm like, I I don't care about the dirty stuff because she's gonna put it all on a pile. She's very nice, she is so awesome, and she's so sweet. And she like again, she kind of is like, she honestly is like kind of part of the family. Like, she like knows she does my brother's house, or she knows my brother's kids, she knows we had a baby. Oh, that's it. My mom hired her when we were coming home from the hospital, so our house was clean. And so she like the next time she came, she's like, Oh, let me see the baby. Like, she's like part of the family. I mean obviously.

SPEAKER_01 23:09

But I would love for somebody to come and do like our floors and our windows. And I could see.

SPEAKER_02 23:15

You should do it before you come home from the hospital. Have somebody do it. I'm gonna have you do it.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

Thanks, man. Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00 23:20

It's not even like it's like a deep clean.

SPEAKER_01 23:24

I'm not like your house, your house would take her 30 seconds. It's like $70.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

And it would be like, yeah, like $75.

SPEAKER_00 23:31

It's like underneath the under of like the fridge and the under of the oven. And like, yeah, the deep clean the oven would be great.

SPEAKER_01 23:39

I pay her $200 to come and clean my uh my toaster oven. Just come and scrub that thing down. I think that thing is. We just need a new one, I think, probably. I think so. Nuclear.

SPEAKER_00 23:50

What about a steamer?

SPEAKER_01 23:51

All the stuff down on the bottom like stays there forever. We do. It's like little bits of it's like now just there.

SPEAKER_00 23:58

But then also like the inside of it.

SPEAKER_02 24:00

Use a hand steamer, you'll totally get it off. The hand steamer.

SPEAKER_00 24:04

It's like the heating element on top. It's like, how am I I can't spray things in there. Well, I guess you can. You can.

SPEAKER_02 24:10

Yeah, sure. Just pay a little clear and then then have a steamer. Pull it all out. It'll cool. Dude, a hand steamer would kill that. But yeah, she's great. I will say, um, you know, like you can you can choose your level of challenge, you know. Like she she I don't think she does underneath the fridge all the time. But like But you could pay her to do it. But you could ask her, like once in a while, I could ask her, like, hey, can you do clean?

SPEAKER_00 24:32

I'd literally be like, hey, you don't even need to go in the bedroom because maybe you you can vacuum the carpet in the bedroom. I got a point.

SPEAKER_01 24:41

Our house is pretty small too. It's not like there's like that many places to clean. No. Like behind the couch. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:49

Well, that's why you can do stuff like that. That's once a year staff though, you know. You know. I yeah, we you know it's the same square footage as our old place, but it just feels somehow feels bigger. So you know, it's nice to know that like the thing is what we don't and that's something we've been trying to develop, and it's just hard. It's like we don't have like a like a cleaning schedule. Like obviously we keep laundry going, we do the dishes or the normie stuff. But it's like it's nice because at least once a month she's like hitting all the floors. And like usually I'll randomly do the kitchen. If the kitchen floor gets really bad, I'll I'll active people too.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

I mean, Jordan works five days a week and sometimes gigs on the weekends. You work whenever you work, I don't know. Definitely on Sundays. Damn near every day. Damn near every day. They find a reason to get the church guy back at church. I'm like, I thought I thought Sunday was like God's big deal. You know that. But apparently it's every day. Apparently it's every day. Um, so but I don't know, maybe you try something in the summertime. Like summertime, Jordan's home, your home, quit your job.

SPEAKER_00 25:53

Mine's normally uh Sunday night before the week, or like for me, it's before coffee car on the weekends. The farmhouse is a mess during coffee car. I'm like, uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 26:02

And you can tell because Kara kind of gets like, okay, so we should probably clean this place up because uh you know.

SPEAKER_02 26:08

Yeah, I get like that. Um Jordan always gives me more time because I get that like two hours before somebody shows up for a podcast. And she goes, Oh, it must be podcast day because you're panic cleaning. I'm like, well, I'm not it's not because the podcast is it's like if anyone was coming over, it's not because of you guys. It's like when people are coming in your space. I don't I get kind of like I get kind of blind to it, you know. I kind of go and going and going because that we're busy, and then all of a sudden you look around and you go, Oh, my friends are coming, and then I our dining room's freaking stacked with crap. I gotta clear clear it off, you know? It's it is what it is.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

But you got a you got a nine-month old too. You're like treading water. What was my stuff before that? I don't know. I don't really know. You got a dog, I think was the story back then.

SPEAKER_02 26:51

I will say I feel like I'm more efficient with a baby because every there's there's just more waking time. Like with before a baby, I used to take so many freaking naps. I used to be like, if I wasn't working or I was taking a nap. And now it's like with a baby, he's up playing, so it's like, oh, might as well do some dishes while he sits on the floor and plays, you know. I don't know. I feel like I'm more productive with a baby. It's kind of interesting.

SPEAKER_01 27:12

I like it, man. It's good.

SPEAKER_02 27:13

You I can't wait for you guys to have a baby. It's gonna be awesome.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

Any minute now.

SPEAKER_02 27:17

Any minute now. No. No, not any minute now.

SPEAKER_01 27:20

Just like in the general scheme of things.

SPEAKER_02 27:22

So you're gonna be eight months pregnant when lip sync happens? Because Yep. Yeah, which is like seven. Technically ten. Like seven. Almost eight.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

Well, I guess September's technically ten.

SPEAKER_02 27:34

September's technically ten. Remember? Sure. It's not really nine is ten.

SPEAKER_00 27:39

You'll be f but that's middle of September is ten.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

And lip sync is pregnant.

SPEAKER_01 27:43

So middle of August will be nine and middle of July will be eight.

SPEAKER_00 27:47

I guess, yeah. If you're going by the ten months pregnant. Eight and a half months pregnant.

SPEAKER_01 27:51

Which some people do.

SPEAKER_02 27:52

I feel the same way. I don't really get it. Why have they been telling us nine months if it's really ten months? Yeah. Because that doesn't really any honestly, it's all about perspective.

SPEAKER_00 27:59

Probably because you can have the baby between any time. It could be nine months. It's all about where you start the line.

SPEAKER_01 28:05

Why are they moving the line now? And who starts the line? That's the thing that I've learned is like there's not really a no there's not a day. It's not like, oh yeah, this is the amount of weeks, and then you have a baby. It's like very fluid.

SPEAKER_02 28:16

And I know you have a lot of people whispering ear, but I I we we learned from our experience, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait until you possibly can. Like, until that baby is like, you know, you're feeling contractions and he and that baby is like kicking the door out. Fully cooked baby. The the the and we talked about this obviously post our baby, but like the medical field really wants to rush you out of this out of having a baby. And I think somebody else said that to me too, where they're so many unnecessary situations.

SPEAKER_01 28:47

They try to functions in my opinion. Your due date. For scheduling reasons. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

And that to me seems that's more C-section. That's more than a big thing. No, but like even when they induce you too.

SPEAKER_01 28:58

Like, oh, we're gonna we're gonna induce you on Friday.

SPEAKER_00 29:01

Yeah. Or they should be going by the weight and the height and the everything of the baby.

SPEAKER_01 29:05

And they were going by that too with him, but not really so I don't know. Are so many babies being born that they're like, yeah, we're trying to schedule all these out so that we have a good schedule.

SPEAKER_02 29:14

Well, it's because they're they're saying now that 37 weeks is is full term, and that's and that they're like, oh, well, we can technically induce you at 37 weeks.

SPEAKER_00 29:21

I'm like, what happened to the old off your baby is still four pounds? Right. I know babies that need those weeks too. I know.

SPEAKER_02 29:29

That's what I'm saying. I I mean, we listen, Jack was a big baby, and how did we wait another week? Who knows what happened? But I, you know, I I look back. What was he born back? 30. He was nine, nine, fourteen, nine pounds, fourteen hours. How many weeks was he? He was technically 40. 42 and a half. Whoa. Yeah, 41. Super cooked. But it did, but it's crazy because like Jordan didn't, it didn't feel like her body was ready to go into that. Right. Of course. Now, who knows? It was her first time. Maybe her body didn't know to get into engage with that. I don't know. There's a lot of things.

SPEAKER_00 30:00

That's all the things we've been seeing about birth plan and all this stuff. It's like it's the first time. You you don't know. Yeah, you can say all these things.

SPEAKER_01 30:08

We sat down recently and we're like, let's talk about our birth plan. And everything we're like, let's look up like people's ones, and so many Everyone's like, my second and third kid. I'm like, I'll I'll just say I'm not an expert. Obviously, I don't know anything about babies yet. A lot of people that are putting information out into the world regarding birth, like it's a little crunchy granola for me.

SPEAKER_03 30:33

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

I'm like, you were a lot nicer than what I was gonna say. It's it's crazy. It's crazy. It seems crazy. It's like very there's this like rhetoric around like, oh, I'm gonna have I want, here's my birth plan, a natural birth. I don't want any, I don't want an epidural. I don't as if that's like you know, like there's like a birth where you're medicated and you're under the influence of drugs. Right. But I want to do it the natural way, which is my body's gonna tell me how to feel and I don't need any help. And it's like very good meaning. It's like, wow, okay, that's your and but they're like, yep, this is my birth plan. Ha, cute. And it's like that's not helpful at all. Like that's not that doesn't tell me what decisions I need to make.

SPEAKER_00 31:16

I feel like you can do that once you have your first kid.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

Right, sure.

SPEAKER_00 31:20

Because then it's like, okay, now I've gone through it, now my second kid, it's like, now this is kind of what I really want.

SPEAKER_01 31:26

I just think it's a little like um what's the word I'm looking for? Like, not dishonest, but like irresponsible. Like you're putting out information as law, yeah, and mind you, maybe we shouldn't be looking for medical advice on TikTok. We shouldn't be doing that. We shouldn't be watching those videos.

SPEAKER_02 31:46

But you're not you're you're not uh you're not in the minority of that. I think a lot of people go to the internet for the internet.

SPEAKER_01 31:52

I think, and that's not unreasonable because there's I want to get a lot of different opinions.

SPEAKER_02 31:55

Yes, but a lot of the opinions that I'm getting are like I told you, like I told you, you talk to three different doctors and they'll say they'll all say something different. So it's not like it's not like medical versus internet, it's like everybody has their own.

SPEAKER_01 32:08

But that's my point about the scheduling of of a C-section or scheduling of a induction. It's like, shouldn't we all be under the same guise of like we want this baby to be born healthy? Yes. So whatever has to happen, yeah, let's do that.

SPEAKER_00 32:23

Which scheduling a C-section is like okay, yeah, you're scheduling a surgery.

SPEAKER_01 32:27

There's gonna be complications. We have to have a C-section.

SPEAKER_02 32:30

There's a shit to that at all. I but if it's the the problem with the medical sometimes is is some of the some of not all of some of the experience we had where it was like the doctor on the phone with Jordan being like, oh, well, your baby you're okay with your baby dying if you don't know. That's so messed up. But like genuinely said that. Yeah. And it's like, wait, what? Like, that's and again, it's one guy, who knows? Maybe he had a bad eye.

SPEAKER_01 32:51

Maybe he had yeah, five conversations with people that were like, Yeah, I don't, yeah, don't care. Or maybe he lost the health of my baby. A baby he was like, Yeah, maybe you never know where somebody's coming from.

SPEAKER_02 33:02

Try to give him the benefit of the doubt. Because I do think general, I I try not to demonize Doctors.

SPEAKER_01 33:06

But that's not something you want to say to a first-time parent.

SPEAKER_02 33:08

No, no, no. No, no. And and it was just like, and that also put us on the defense. So then going in for the induction was like, well, we feel like we're doing things against something against our will. You know, and and we're not. We weren't.

SPEAKER_01 33:19

But and you did it, and Jack was born, and he's a beautiful baby, and he's healthy.

SPEAKER_02 33:24

And that's And you know what's so funny is in and I think it's important to talk about a little bit about the language we use, right? And because it's like the other piece of it is um I and I and I did this by accident the other day. I we were talking about oh, like it was something I was making some some joke about, oh, like your mom, like like you be nice to your mom, because she like you know, she she birthed you, and Jordan was like, Well, no, I didn't. And I was like, Oh, you know, but I'm saying like that's the kind of stuff that lives in in these new moms' minds. And and Jordan's uh one of many women that it's like sh I think she and there's a part of her that still thinks she somehow failed, you know? Oh and and I think that's why it's like when we talk about pregnancy, like I it makes me aware, right? I mean, a lot of why I am why I think the way that I think is because of the people in my life. Sure. And so Jordan, there's a there's a whole laundry list of things that I've learned from of Jordan's experience in life that I go, oh, I didn't even think about that. Right, sure. But then it's like you start to think about birth, and it's like, oh, well, what's the right way, what's the wrong way? Oh, I did it the natural way versus the unnatural way. And it's like, well, to some degree, it's all happening how it's supposed to happen.

SPEAKER_01 34:30

It's gonna happen how it's supposed to happen.

SPEAKER_00 34:31

And it's also all of it's kind of a natural because you're in a hospital.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 34:35

And you're bringing You're not um in a random house.

SPEAKER_01 34:40

And uh to your point, what does the word natural even mean? Like my understanding of natural is like out in the woods, like the woman who's not seeing doctors. Yes, totally.

SPEAKER_02 34:51

I'm like that's well, I think and that's the thing that we society, and I guess um you know I think even the medical profession would categorize as like a labored natural birth versus a c-section. But it's like I now I now because of my experience and because of my wife, I think I'm like, oh shoot, that word natural is holds a lot of meaning.

SPEAKER_01 35:13

Totally.

SPEAKER_02 35:13

It totally her for because now she thinks, well, I didn't do it the way I did it the non-natural way.

SPEAKER_01 35:18

You did it the way of that you brought life into this world. There wasn't a person here, and now there's a person. Yes. And like that's not something anybody can be like, well, that was the wrong way to do it. Like people do IVF, and people, you know, I don't know. There's all kinds of different ways that life comes into this world. And for us to be like, well, that's not, you know, you cheated. You got the epidural and you didn't feel it. I felt it. You adopted Oh my gosh, like how families are made and like what families look like. And that's yeah, I mean, I'm I'm right there with you.

SPEAKER_00 35:51

I think the way we talk about it is I feel I feel bad when people ask me how my pregnancy is going, and I say, That's great.

SPEAKER_02 35:59

But that's the other thing too, right? It's like you you you should be able to join and celebrate in the in the in the reality that hey, it's going well for you, it's great.

SPEAKER_00 36:07

Sorry, sorry, but that's the human experience, you know. Sorry, I haven't gotten sorry I didn't throw up one time. Come on. Oh, come on.

SPEAKER_01 36:16

Every single person who was like, I was knocking on wood and already thought it was the door. I was like, huh?

SPEAKER_00 36:22

Every single person who asked me, like, oh, was it so hard?

SPEAKER_01 36:26

The first I'm like, and not even not even like not even like moms either. Like, I feel like everybody just has this assumption of what a pregnancy looks like.

SPEAKER_00 36:36

Well, yeah, my assumption was that too.

SPEAKER_01 36:38

Yeah, no, for sure, everybody does. And I think that you just wait till you're following July. No, yeah. But the whole thing is that. Up until this point. Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah, I know. You haven't dealt with any morning symptoms.

SPEAKER_00 36:52

My OB literally was like, wow, second trimester, that's the that's the honeymoon.

SPEAKER_01 36:58

The honeymoon phase, which is supposed to be like, you're feeling the best. You're like, yep. Okay. Yep. Things are getting better. Sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:07

I I you you be you're saving your your uh your all your coins for Yeah, I'm saving it. Because I'll tell you what, when that hot heat comes, you're gonna be cranking that AC. We had this AC. You're also East County.

SPEAKER_00 37:21

You're also East County.

SPEAKER_02 37:22

That's true. That's true. And you guys like going to the beach.

SPEAKER_01 37:25

Why don't you come hang out at the beach this summer? I like that. Why don't you bring you and your lovely wife and your lovely children? Little hang dog. Come on down to the beach. Come on. I mean, but you guys are pool.

SPEAKER_02 37:34

I'm at the pool. Yeah, we we spent during those last couple weeks, we were going to my parents' pool every single day. Oh, yeah. And she was just floating in the pool.

SPEAKER_01 37:41

Awesome.

SPEAKER_02 37:42

And I was like, yeah, that's great. I was going to the jacuzzi and she'd be in the pool like for like an hour. And also, Jordan's kind of like a lesser version of Annie in the pool where she like likes the pool. She's not a she's not she doesn't turn into a child when she goes in the pool. But she like she kind of has this childlike love for the pool where she when she is not as she doesn't go in as often as she did when she was a kid, obviously. But you can kind of see something change in her face when she goes into a pool. It's like kind of unlocks like a happiness that's there.

SPEAKER_01 38:08

You know what? Let her. Come on, Amy. Come on, Mr. Robbins. Let her. Come on. I think she needs all the the love she can get, the happy she can get.

SPEAKER_02 38:16

Swimming, or Jordan?

SPEAKER_01 38:19

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SPEAKER_00 38:59

It's taking you this long.

SPEAKER_01 39:00

Well. If we were any easier, we'd call it cast.

SPEAKER_00 39:06

I love that one.

SPEAKER_01 39:07

Hey yo. Hey yo. Thanks for listening, watching, guys. We love ya. Phil Jr., keep chiming in.

SPEAKER_02 39:13

Phil Jr.

SPEAKER_01 39:14

Philip. No Annie.

SPEAKER_02 39:15

No Annie on this episode. He may not be watching.

SPEAKER_01 39:17

Do we not mention that again? That's fine. Totally fine. In the booth as always. Carrot. I'm Ryan. I'm John. We'll see you next week on What the Podcast Hey. Yeah.