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Everybody, delete the flag. Oh, Ryan?

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Right now, I'm about to be an American with Lisa. I'm free.

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Okay, are you gonna take that or are you just gonna let it ring through the national anthem? That sucks.

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And I'm probably stand up.

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Hi, everybody. Welcome back to What the Podcast. I'm Ryan. And I'm John. Together we are. Cheers, buddy. Cheers. Cheers. To the groom. To the groom. To the groom. To the broom. Exactly. Joining us this week on the pod. In the booth. My lovely wife, Garrett Foya.

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America.

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Okay. Alright. Who was saying that?

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America.

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You great unfinished symphony you've sent for me. Joining us again this week. Back in the booth. After a long hiatus. It's Annie the Scopescopeman, everybody. Give it up for Annie.

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Annie.

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Annie.

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Back again from her world tour.

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Yeah. This is gonna ruin the world tour.

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This is gonna ruin the world tour. Um, yeah, I'm in a wacky, silly, goofy mood. I'm glad to be back with my friends. Um, guys, in case you missed it, we've been out. We haven't really. We you've been watching the podcast one more time.

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We've been we fooled you.

SPEAKER_03 1:33

But we fooled you, yeah. John's been out of town. Annie had a side quest, we were out of town.

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You had a side quest. Where'd you go? No, she was doing all kinds of stuff.

SPEAKER_03 1:40

Yeah. What's it sorry? Her job. She's been doing her job. We've been vacationing and she's been working. That's right. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Um, but I'm glad to be back here in the booth to talk about stuff and things. Happy 4th of July weekend. Come on. Uh, as you can tell from our attire, we're very patriotic around here. Um Red, white, and blue.

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Did you ever say I didn't understand why you're wearing the hacker? It's red, white, and blue.

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When you walk in with us, like, okay. Hawaii's part of America.

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Uh whether you like it or not. Reluctantly. Oh my god.

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Read the room. Whether you like it or not, Hawaii. You're part of us.

SPEAKER_03 2:25

I don't know. I don't know about that. They had a choice. Did you guys ever have like a lesson in school where you learned about like the what the colors of the flag meant? Did you ever have like a flag day? You never did that?

SPEAKER_00 2:37

Um I'm sure we did. I don't know. Well, the stars are uh the states.

SPEAKER_03 2:40

Yeah, great. The 50 states.

SPEAKER_00 2:41

Yeah. The red stri if the red stripes represented like bloodshed.

SPEAKER_03 2:47

Okay, very good. Very good courage. White, I don't remember. Uh yeah, I guess not purity, right? Liberty. And then blue is like the pursuit of happiness, maybe? I don't know. Does it even matter? The stripes represent the 13 colonies, the original colonies.

SPEAKER_01 3:03

But then it it wasn't originally the stars were the 13 colonies.

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Freedom, unity, and national pro.

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And then they re-vamped.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

13 alternating red and white stripes represent the original colonies. Yes. Fifty white stars represent 50 states. But that's new. Yeah, I think that's a good one.

SPEAKER_03 3:18

They just like the colors. Um Betsy had a lot of people. Like a lot of things in this country, it was an afterthought. Yeah. We figured it out later.

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White is purity and innocence. Red is hardiness and valor. The blue is vigilance, perseverance, and justice.

SPEAKER_03 3:34

Okay, so maybe we should alter the flag to mean something else now. I think in terms of purity, this country isn't exactly a leader anymore. But hey, you know. Is this a good place? Is this a good day for some grills and some chills, really? Grills and chills, and I saw the post that was crazy, and it was like this for some people, this is the last week with all ten of their fingers.

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Oh, yo.

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No, no, no. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

Everyone? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:10

You had a big fireworks scare recently?

SPEAKER_01 4:11

No, we always had fireworks scares. We did fireworks at New Year's down the desert. Not so much 4th of July. Um, and they would always fall and they would shoot off towards the motorhomes and towards the people and put it into the sky.

SPEAKER_03 4:22

That did happen at my house one year. Yeah.

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And then we had we did the sky lanterns. The sky lanterns would land on the motorhome, and then people would try to get on top before their motorhome burned down.

SPEAKER_03 4:31

Yeah, yeah. Yikes. Yeah. It feels like a desert.

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What the heck is a sky lantern? You know, like Rapunzel entangled. Well, they go up and then they go down. Well, it's not Disney.

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It's not Disney, of course.

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You try to you and then sometimes you'd hold them over the big fire. You hold them in the big fire and they go, oof, because the heat like they disintegrated.

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Oh.

SPEAKER_01 4:55

No, they those burn up eventually. They burn up eventually, and then the wire frame and the kerosene like very hot. Yeah.

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The kerosene chunk comes flying down. Do you ever sing the song when you did it? No, she wasn't a theater kid. She was in the obscure theater world. No, no, no. You sing a song, a couple of bars from the birds, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

By the time first of all, the bird was a play. Um Aida.

SPEAKER_03 5:22

There were some spoken word parts though. Maybe you were We Are the Birds here to burn the lanterns.

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The lantern, the sky lanterns happened. Everyone was so drunk that it was it was really more of a happening. Oh, yeah, by the time the fireworks happened too. And every year we've lit it from the bottom, which then it burnt all the support systems. That it was always like, why don't we burn it from the top? But you know what? That's kid logic. That's not drug.

SPEAKER_03 5:45

Oh, that's that's the kind of logic this country needs right now. Why are we burning it from the bottom?

SPEAKER_01 5:49

And then my my grandfather would like put the whatever he built to burn, he would like put um dir dura flame logs in it too, so that burned for longer.

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You don't see these much these days, but did you ever go to a pallet bonfire? Yeah. Love a good pallet bonfire. You ever see a stack of pallets completely on fire, John?

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Like 10 or 12 pallets. Intense heat though, huh?

SPEAKER_03 6:09

Uh the scariest, one of the scariest things I've ever like witnessed is just like a lot of people. When did you go to fire? They used to do them all the time, like down in Mission uh South Mission. You go down to South Mission in the middle of summer, you're guaranteed to see a big pallet fire. Yeah.

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One time a guy he lit his whole couch on fire in his backyard, and that was crazy.

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That guy's name? Dan Albright.

SPEAKER_02 6:29

No, no, it wasn't my dad. My dad, my dad's afraid of fire. He would never do it. Really? Not a fire.

SPEAKER_01 6:33

He's afraid of fire, huh?

SPEAKER_02 6:34

Yeah, he's like every time we do bonfires growing up, he he stays up until it burns out entirely. Or until it's safe to pour water on. Because he his, you know, he won't, he'll I'll say this isn't true, but it is. But when he was a kid, his dad stuck a whole uh Christmas tree into the fire pit and was trying to like shove it up there and it didn't go, and then the fire like basically came out to the where the tree was sticking out, and it really made an impression on my dad. Oh my god. So now my dad does not like he we he wouldn't let us have candles in our room we were growing up.

SPEAKER_00 7:05

We weren't allowed to have candles in our rooms either. Oh we had candles. Sure. Oh.

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I had some candles. Well, Jim doesn't like candles because they leave uh the smoke leaves a residue in the walls.

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That is true.

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That's what he's like he's like, I don't like that. Big clean guy.

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I love Jim. I gotta see that.

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Big clean guy, yeah. He loved cleaning.

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I gotta see that guy.

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I haven't seen Jim in a in a minute.

SPEAKER_01 7:28

Oh, he's been on a side quest. He went on a he went on an American, true American road trip. That's what I heard. Oh yeah, he went to South Dakota, they went to Mount Rushmore, did a helicopter tour around Mount Rushmore.

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A helicopter tour of Mount Reshmore.

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And they did end up going up in the helicopter.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

Oh yeah, they did. They both did Jim unimpressed.

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He was like, Which is crazy because he's a huge Kobe fan, so I'm surprised that like just.

SPEAKER_01 7:49

My sister, my sister sent me the craziest text. Aaron, if you're listening to this, you're an icon. You're an icon. Her head rubs up. I'm gonna print it on a t-shirt. She texts me, our parents send me a picture, and my mom's in a helicopter. In true Jim Robbie fashion. They didn't, like, they told us like their itinerary so long ago that like we didn't read it. So I don't know what they did. We definitely never read it. We're here now. And I'm like, and so she sends a picture and we're like, You're in a helicopter? Aaron automatically texts me on the side and she goes, They should not be in the house. If a helicopter's not safe enough for Kobe Bryant, it's not safe enough for our parents. And I responded, LOL, because that's the funniest thing I've ever heard. LOL.

SPEAKER_00 8:27

How many times have we heard of a helicopter going down with a regular civilian though?

SPEAKER_01 8:30

Um, because they don't, they're not advertising that because they big helicopter of it all, you know.

SPEAKER_03 8:36

I think it's more like normal people don't go in helicopters all that often. That's true. That's true. Celebrities be going in helicopters.

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Yeah. I think that, you know, we know the percentages of dying in that kind of thing is really small, but I do think it happens. You know, it's a lot of things.

SPEAKER_01 8:49

Oh, I think you're way more likely to die in a helicopter than a plane.

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Yeah, it's true. I don't know the statistics on helicopters. I know planes is pretty low.

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At least six times more.

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Six.

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Maybe seven.

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Six, seven?

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Um, that's one of the true great American six seven? Yeah.

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Is that still rolling? Are the young people still doing six seven? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 9:08

It is with me. Oh, yeah. In the same way that I still ask people what the 411 is.

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Here's here's here's the deal, guys. I think we're at the age now, if we're using it, it's done.

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No.

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They're not using it anymore.

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No, think about in Hawaii, we heard so many kids saying 6'7.

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There was a lot of 6'7 going on.

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But I think there's a disparity in the sense that like I think the young kids will do it for a lot longer, but I think the cool teens, they've dropped it entirely. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 9:30

Yeah, cool teens.

SPEAKER_00 9:31

Oh, yeah, they've moved on to the unk of it all.

SPEAKER_03 9:34

Oh no, you are the unk of it all. We are all the unk of it all. Yeah.

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Wow. Oh.

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I know. Ugh. Beautiful life.

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Wow.

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Wow. You spent some time abroad right before his birthday.

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Yes, true. I love I can't wait to talk about this. John went on an extensive two week, what was it, 15 days you were gone?

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Yeah, I was gone probably 14 or 15. Yeah, the trip itself was 13, I think.

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Ein Trip de Germany. Das Gut. Trip and Germany. It was the best of Germany and Austria. Sure. Give me just jump right into it, John. I don't want to do it. Did you love it? Did you hate it? I want to spend a good amount of time. I liked it.

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We'll dive deeper on the post, shall we? Yeah, yeah. I like it. If you want to hear about Germany.

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Yeah, for sure.

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I liked it. I was telling Annie a little bit of the highlights. Um, I'll just some three standout things that I saw, obviously.

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That'd be great. Thank you.

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Like, and talk about the 250 of it all. I was just I was telling everyone I've been talking to, I'm like, it's hilarious that we're like America's, and I get it. We're making this huge, I feel like I've heard a lot of big buzz about the big 250, right? And then like literally two weeks ago, I was standing in a city that was around in the 1300s.

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Yeah, and I'm like it's crazy.

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Oh, long probably longer.

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I'm like, okay, so that part was like there's so much history, and there's like it's like it kind of makes America look dumb, like in a lot of ways, obviously. Not hard to do, but not hard to do these days. But also, I was like, it was just kind of funny because I'm like, these these cities have been around for centuries, and there's so much like culture and like just history and really cool.

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Well, I think it says something because people always talk about they're like, Oh, America knows so much about America.

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Yep.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

But part of it is because our history is so much smaller that like we can segment it into all of your show years. Yeah, you can learn all of it. You can st you can learn all of it. If you have a country that's been around since you know, I mean you could, yeah, sure.

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I feel like we we harped on the same stuff every year. Yeah, am I right?

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But we have things were hidden from us.

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Oh yeah, totally. Our checkers passed.

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It makes you inter it makes you wonder, like, what in these countries are they hiding? Like, if we're if we're as a country, if we're hiding at the end of the day, so many things under cobblestone. People, people that live in these literal people under cobblestone. Literally, like 800, 900, you know, like like long time standing. I'm like, what are they hiding? You know, they were eating people and stuff, yeah.

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People were eating people afterwards. They went through a lot.

SPEAKER_03 12:06

Top top three from Germany, John. Go ahead. Top three. Um, like places I went to. Just your big three, like like memorable moments. I mean there's a lot of history. Food that you ate, drinks that you had.

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I'll I'll give you I'll give you a little high level of all those things. I think there's a lot of history, and I could and I really could spend a lot of time talking about what I learned just about in Germany and Austria and just and how insane it was, and I won't spend too much time on it. Obviously, we went to like we went to Eagle's Nest, which is like the only existing structure that they know Hitler visited multiple times. And that was weird because there's like one entrance and one exit, and so you're they're like, we're going up in this tiny like 10-person elevator, and they're like, Yeah, no, like Hitler had to take this elevator. Like, you're like that was weird to me, like, but also kind of fascinating that like Yeah, you really liked it, Sicko.

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No, it's like is that where he eventually killed himself? No, that's a bunker. The bunker the bunker doesn't exist anymore.

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Parking lot. They put a parking lot on it. No kidding, that's it.

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They said we're erasing this. That's good.

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Yeah, they literally said, like, they didn't they and that was the thing about Germany, is there's always this like dichotomy of like they think it's important to remember, but they also don't want to like celebrate us, celebrate this awful time of Hitler's reign, basically.

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Yeah, they don't want to like embody it.

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And but at the same time, like they're very, they're very like I was telling Annie, they you can tell they still are like um kind of regretful of their involvement, like even to this day, Berlin and and I think that's why Berlin is so progressive in the way that like they're they're really adaptive and open to new ideas, because I think they're so fearful that the Holocaust that nobody spoke up, and that was the problem, right? And so now they're a lot more like intentional about hey, we're gonna speak up for what we don't think is right because we don't want to get caught in another version of not speaking up when it mattered, you know, and very and the and our guide even told us like Berlin and all these cities are still very much like reflecting on that and feel really embarrassed by like their involvement in it. Wow, which is really interesting because you think about it, it happened like what 70 years ago. I'm like, but they're still atoning for that. The other big thing that I liked was the um just the econom like the eco like involvement and thought process, they're very eco-minded. Like they they're very like they a lot of glass, not a lot of plastic, and also you know, they're just like they're a lot more like ahead of the curve on like understanding we get one planet. Sure. And like that, and and and that is another thing that you talk about highlight highlighted in America. I'm like, America, we just we have like almost no consideration for that, in my opinion. Sure. And I'm like I agree. And I think that's like it caused me to get we we we went to this eco we went to this um it's like a high standard eco farm where basically they grow their own food, they're organic and they're sustainable, and they like think of ways that they can everything they do is they're thinking about how they can re-reuse and be low waste, and I thought that was really cool. And the family's a fifth generation farm, and this the daughter's running it at the current at the currently at the moment. And she like went off and had a career, and she's like, after 10 years of being in like the world the like the corporate world, she's like I I had to come back and carry on my family's legacy, which was really cool. Really cool farm, it had 250 chickens, it was like insane, and it's evolved over the years. Like they used to be a they used to be a primarily like cattle meat, and now they're kind of more growing vegetables, and so that was cool. And I think also like I've just I'm going back here like man, I mean, I've always tried in my head to be a little more like not wasteful, you know, not try not to use single use plastics, but like they are doing it at such a universal level over there, and even the caps on the bottles don't come off. You unscrew them and they just basically stay on the top of the bottle.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

You guys had that, didn't you?

SPEAKER_00 15:48

I hate those bottles.

SPEAKER_02 15:49

Oh, really? Yeah, they had that throughout the bottom.

SPEAKER_01 15:51

They had that like I had that in Italy. Did you have the horrible water? Did they have the like weird mineral water? Yes, yeah. The one that like it literally tastes like sewer water, and you're like, what is this? They're like, it's minerals, it's good. Oh, we didn't have the we just got the big A.

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We had it on uh we had it on the plate. That was the other thing too. The water quality is so much better out there. It's like literally, they were telling us in most of these studies, like, oh, just fill up your water bottle out of the tap, and we're like, What? But genuinely, it's like, and I was I was telling somebody at work, I'm like, I feel like I came back and like my hair feels better, my skin feels better, and I'm like, I wasn't thinking about it actively out there, but I'm like, yeah, and it that the thing out here is like you know, your water, it's like hard water, hard water, and you also live in especially out here where you live, it's extremely dry climate.

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Like, yeah.

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So that was kind of interesting to me. Like, I really was inspired by like how eco-minded they are, and just like in it, and it really does feel like it, like they're trying to think about that kind of stuff and actively make you know a way towards that. Even on the plane, they're like, if you can reuse your cup, we would appreciate it. But they don't like make you, but and no, yeah, that was kind of interesting. I thought that was cool. The history of that, and then um the food, lots of lots of bratwurst, lots of sausage, obviously, lots of pretzels. They don't heat up the pretzels out there, which is pretzel. Yeah, they served it, they served it straight up, and they're like, Yeah, we don't heat it up, like we'll heat it up for you if you want. Well, you know, okay, whatever.

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Little little dipping mustard or mustard, okay, all that stuff.

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I love a soft pretzel with mustard. They had this very specific dish that I didn't know existed. Uh obviously in Bratwurst, but it's called curry worst. So it's a cut-up bratwurst and like dipped in a curry sauce with French fries. Okay. Oh the best. The best. I had that, and what's crazy is like it's kind of like a gas station food for them. Like at all the truck stops, they had it, but they also had a lot of things. Yeah, they also had it, but it was like so good.

SPEAKER_03 17:48

Bottom of uh Wiener Schnitzel?

SPEAKER_02 17:49

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had it. We like every the way the trip was designed is like they basically make like the there's a dinner that's set, which means like you just get what you get unless you're gluten-free or whatever. Sure. And so, of course, we had a wiener wiener schnitzel and all that stuff, and it was really bomb. I liked, I mean, I liked all the food. I thought it was good. I mean it again, it goes back to like I feel like it was kind of fresher, I felt like maybe rose-colored glasses or whatever. But I just I think you know the whole experience food-wise was cool. The beer was really good. Like there we got there, my brother's big beer guy. That's the other thing about Germany, is a lot of it, there's no hard alcohol. It's either beer, it's a lot of beer and wine. I don't drink beer and wine normally, but I was like, you know what? For this trip, I'm gonna like commit to drinking. Right. And so I and my brother got a couple beers, and that's the only it feels like like everywhere we went, my brother just said beer, and there was no like what kind of beer. Well, but it was just like this is the beer. And so, and there's only like three or four main manufacturers of beer out there, so they kind of know like what you want, and but it comes with like all this foam. My brother's like, Oh man, there's all this foam, and our tour guide's like, No, that's how you know it doesn't have preservatives, is by the big foam head on it. Really? He's like the your beers in America don't have that because they they like full it fill it full much with a bunch of things. Longer shelf life, maybe longer shelf life, right? And so that was interesting because then it then you started to go, oh, the foam's not so bad.

SPEAKER_05 19:10

Right.

SPEAKER_02 19:10

You know, it's like very flavor.

SPEAKER_01 19:12

I'm not saying that's not true. That probably was gonna say is that propaganda pouring it wrong. You dumb Americans will believe anything. Yeah, oh, that's because it's I don't think so.

SPEAKER_02 19:20

Because we watched them pour it and it they're doing like the normal method, it just has like stabilize maybe it's like stabilizers or you know, because I I would I would hear that and come with the German accent from a guy served me the beer.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

I'd be like, obviously that's true.

SPEAKER_02 19:35

Yes, of course. Well this was our tour guide, so I don't think that he was trying to fool. But yeah, I mean it was interesting. The Berlin Wall was incredible. I mean, just like Hans Mozart. Listening, like seeing they had this they have this kind of preserved section of the wall and how it was, and you walk around it and you just like and you start to just hear the stories of people who like were on the East Berlin side and just like really yearning for uh you know the the ability to go to the West Berlin, which is it which in a lot of ways was was freedom for them. And it's interesting ha they cut that coming off of like right off of the Holocaust was you know, not right off, but you know, coming out of that pretty quickly and into that kind of phase was was a lot for people. You know, and then then uh we went to Dachau, which was uh one of the first concentration camps, and I found out that like concentration camps really the bulk of them were labor camps, they weren't extermination camps. There were a lot of extermination camps, and they did obviously kill six million Jews.

SPEAKER_00 20:32

There was like it was like the main like five extermination camps, right?

SPEAKER_02 20:36

There was like a a certain amount of so that's that's actually I thought that too. There were 72 main concentration camps throughout Germany, and each of those had uh like uh uh varying sizes of microsites. So there's 3,500 sites total. But they all they all fed into a main site and there were 72 main sites. Dachau was one of those. It was one of the first four or five. And they what what the lady was saying is like people don't realize, yes, six million Jews died. That's enough to be like a a totally wrecked by, but she goes 20 million people died. Like wow, like so there's six million, but then there's just 14 million people that just died because they opposed the Nazis or they didn't agree, or they got a lot of gay people or held in a holocaust.

SPEAKER_01 21:20

If you go to um like Manzanar, the Japanese internment camps that like is closest to us, it wasn't just Japanese people on the on the like um executive order, it was anyone of Axis descent. So there were Italians who were in concentration camps, there were Germans who are in concentration camps, but because of where the like the coastline was, yeah, a vast majority of the people were Japanese. And so, but there were other people of other descent who were also interringed in Berlin.

SPEAKER_02 21:50

Um there's obviously like the main uh you know memorial for uh Holoca the Holocaust, and there's there's artists that made it's a really interesting structure. It's all these Black uh beams, I guess black rectangles, and they're at varying sizes, and they're built into a crater. So the further you walk in, the quieter and the more isolating it gets. And at the very center, you can't even hear the street noises around. Wow. And so I walked in and it was like wild. And and it was just so many little things about like again, just like atonement and all that stuff. But then there's a separate memorial for LGBTQIA people that died in in like a separate one. Because he was saying, like when it all came down, like everybody wanted a memorial for their specific thing. Of course. And the and the German government tried their best to like obviously the biggest one is the Jewish, you know, uh memorial for for all the people that uh Jewish people that died, and that was obviously like the significant, you know, the bigger piece of all that. But again, it's multifaceted. But anyways, there's this coding on these black these black structures that a company um you know they they've hired a company so that that they could wash off spray paint because graffiti is a huge thing out there too. And a lot in a lot of areas it's legal too. Which is cool. I thought it was cool. And my dad hated it. And um so they they coat all this stuff, and then it turns out that the company that makes the coating like way back when was the company that engineered the gas for the gas tanks. And so they find they they find this out, and the company's like like because of all the turnover, the company doesn't really like so many people know, but like the people that are in charge now don't didn't really know that. But so what they did was they probably an open secret probably wasn't um they they didn't charge at all for the company. I was gonna say and and they they recode it every five years for free because they're like we had no idea. It was crazy. That's not good. Yeah, very crazy.

SPEAKER_03 23:45

I mean, it's that's one of those things that gets lost to history. Like a lot of you know of a lot of the scientists that sent uh our guys to the moon in NASA were like, you know, Russians, ex uh Nazis. German, yeah, Nazi uh scientists.

SPEAKER_05 23:59

German scientists.

SPEAKER_02 24:00

And then it it was it was wild too, because like Doc how you learn that the con you know like their work camps and they were you know the Germ, I guess the Nazis were s basically sending these people to work 14-15 hour days um to companies. They'd put them in trucks and they'd and they'd send them to like BMW, Mercedes to make cars for cheap all day. Crazy. Some of these we met and our guide was one of them. She was like, Yeah, uh me and my friends, we we absolutely will not buy a BMW. Absolutely. And BMW's like the car.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

Yeah, I think at Toma is like my my parents have a story of going to Denmark to visit family, and they were like, oh, and they were spending a day in Germany, and our relatives wouldn't even take him to they like took him like like across the border, but they wouldn't like they wouldn't even take him into Germany. Like they're like, we refuse to go into Germany.

SPEAKER_02 24:45

Yeah, wow.

SPEAKER_01 24:46

Like still, they're like, no.

SPEAKER_02 24:48

And it's illegal to do like the Nazi salute to like our guy was our guy was like, not it's not funny, it's not something you do at all. Like they're like, he's like, if you do that and somebody and somebody sees it, you can literally be arrested and there's like nothing I can do.

SPEAKER_03 25:01

Like crazy, crazy, crazy. I saw this video recently. How it was this guy talking about it was these two people and they were talking about um slavery in America and how it was basically like you know, we have this idea of like slavery in America was solved, right? Like we won the civil war, and then it was like, oh, and then they freed all the slaves, and like that was the end of it. But it in reality, like something like that where like Nazi Germany was held accountable by the rest of the world, where America was like not held accountable for it at all. And and now there's talk about like you know, reparations for black people and stuff, but essentially they didn't like it wasn't like oh we found out at the end of the the civil war that this is bad. It was like they reluctantly gave up their slaves, and then Jim Crow laws were put into effect and segregation was put into effect, and like that's why it's it's like such a different vibe than what you're saying, which is like you go there and everyone's like of one mind. Like, yeah, the not like Germany was wrong, like the Nazis were wrong. Yeah, yeah, it's just it's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 26:07

It's one of those things that is like not that's why we got Nazis here in America.

SPEAKER_03 26:13

It's I mean, really, Argentina where they were. Isn't that crazy that there's like isn't there like a little German village in Germany?

SPEAKER_01 26:24

They said, sure. I mean, open. Come on in.

SPEAKER_03 26:26

Yeah, we took a bunch of them.

SPEAKER_01 26:27

Yeah, because that was another thing too.

SPEAKER_02 26:29

There was like some there was some law some animosity that you were talking about with Argentina about that, because they were like saying that, yeah, they it was oh that's what the the guide was saying at Dachhouse. She was like, She's like, Yeah, some of the high-ranking Nazis they went to uh to Argentina, and they're like, Why? And they're like, Oh, because Argentina, they were looking for they they they just how she put it, and it's true. She said they were they were looking for strong leaders, and they knew that they could that they could get them by by taking old Nazi Reich like leaders. A lot of big gets there.

SPEAKER_01 27:00

There's a huge German population in Argentina, and then yeah, like you go in. I was telling John this, my mom and I watched this whole TV show called um like Hitler's Escape, and it was like following the escape plan that they found out that Hitler had, and so it was kind of like what if like what if he got away? Would he have gotten out of here like truly? And it was like some top guys from the FBI, and it's on like Discovery Now or whatever, you know, like I love that stuff. It was so but it they went to Argentina and they interviewed a bunch of people who were descendants of these high-ranking Nazi people, and they're like, like Don't they?

SPEAKER_02 27:35

Because that's what I was telling any. I mean, I I I didn't know this, but like Hitler's um, you know, his exit was I knew he killed I knew he killed himself in a bunker, but basically the protocol was like he'd go into his room that he was he was living in that bunker for for years until until he finally killed himself, allegedly. And uh but basically he'd go into his bedroom and they'd wait for a gunshot, and then they'd come in and they burned his body, and they brought it to the top to the top of the bunker, and then they burned him and Ava Brown, his his wife, who he married, and and and their dogs. Like they literally she she was killed by cyanide and the dogs were killed by cyanide. They tested the cyanide on the dogs to make it.

SPEAKER_00 28:11

I can't remember, was that in Schindler's list?

SPEAKER_02 28:13

I don't know. But it just can't remember if Hitler's burning of the body movie. It to me goes like I don't think it was it tears it wide open for freaking conspiracy. I'm like, wait, they burned his body? Like nobody saw his dead body. Like, you know, exactly, and that's why a lot of things are. You know what?

SPEAKER_01 28:29

You said this, you said this earlier. He's dead now. Oh, yeah, he's like 100 something now.

SPEAKER_03 28:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:34

No matter what, Hitler is dead now.

SPEAKER_00 28:36

Unless he's with Walt Disney.

SPEAKER_03 28:38

I didn't know there's a conspiracy that Hitler did. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

Because they burned his body.

SPEAKER_01 28:41

And so then his dentist. No evidence.

SPEAKER_03 28:43

His dentist confirmed it.

SPEAKER_01 28:45

God it was his dentist. Yeah. The Russians took his body.

SPEAKER_03 28:48

It was Hitler in a dentist outfit, and he's like, That's definitely Hitler. I'm gonna go over here. Yeah, what is he, like Groucho Marks or something? Yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 28:57

I don't know. That just that doesn't in my head, I'm like, that's kind of fishy, right?

SPEAKER_03 29:02

I want to shelf Hitler for just a minute and I want to get back to your training.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

Probably probably good. Let's just give it. Let's dump him.

SPEAKER_03 29:08

How did you like traveling abroad? Did you like the tour joining the uh the you know the guided tour? Would you do it again?

SPEAKER_02 29:17

Would you not do it again? Yeah. I traveling abroad was definitely like a different, a very different experience. Like the good news is like anywhere you go, and you and you probably experience this, like high tourist areas, like people know that you're a tourist and they can speak English a lot of times. No problem. But like there were some areas we went into where it was like the language barrier was kind of crazy. Like they didn't understand English, they didn't care that you didn't know you didn't speak English. They weren't trying to do it. And they weren't trying to help you at all, and it was kind of like the and in fact, which was I thought this was odd. When we uh landed in Frankfurt in the airport, we had like 30 minutes before our tour was gonna leave. And we're like, oh, we're gonna get coffee. We went to this coffee stand in the airport and uh first time we're we're experiencing you know people who don't speak English. Which is wild because I'm like, you're in the airport. You think that you'd speak like you know, or at least uh be a little more tolerant? These women did not care. They're like, What do you I'm I'm saying, I'm gonna say it in English because I don't know what they're saying in German. But basically they're like, I what I assume they were saying is like, what do you want? And uh, but it was like very harsh in Russian, like and then I their their menu is all like coffee, but it's like uh cafe carmel. And I was like, Oh, um, can I do a cafe ice, cafe, caramel? No ice. That was it, no ice, no ice. Okay, can I just do that then hot? And she says, she goes, You mean a caramel coffee? And I was like, Yeah, yeah. But it's like like she was like annoyed that I was like that I flipped the but I was reading it off the met like literally off the menu, how they had it. And then I I was like, okay, so then and then I see the thing come up and it's all in German, like the tip menu. I don't know, and I just see what I think is no tip, so I just do no tip. But I was just like, and then I was like kind of frustrated. I'm like, I and then but Bobby's like, We're you're in we're in their country, and I get that, you know what I'm saying? But I'm also like you're in customer service and you're in the international airport.

SPEAKER_01 31:11

Like here's okay, yes, Starbucks. But I I when I was traveling abroad, I had that same experience where like for the most part, especially like in France, like French students take eight years of English. Like across the country, they are like enrolled in eight years English. So basically everywhere where you went, I was like, Oh Monjo, and they go, hi, how can we help you?

SPEAKER_04 31:32

I'm like, you're like, Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 31:33

Yep. Like, fine.

SPEAKER_00 31:34

Fine. There goes those two weeks of French I learned. You can't even say hi, you have to say like your order. You have to get it all out in French or in Italian. Yeah. So then they're like, then they'll say you. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 31:46

Yeah. But it was like one of those things that when I did come across the people who didn't speak a lick of English, I was like, you know what? But like I should be I should be learning a little bit of their language. I'm walking into their country. Sure, yeah. In the same way that like if they were gonna come to like a lick of French. If if they've come here and I'm like, oh my gosh, I don't speak English. Right. I don't know what language you're speaking, I don't know where you're from. I'm trying to help you, but I like I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 32:11

So that piece was hard.

SPEAKER_01 32:12

I didn't take French in high school.

SPEAKER_02 32:13

I was like, ah that was the piece that I think I realized I wasn't like I don't know that I'm like eager to go back to a country that does like doesn't speak English, just because I'm like, I didn't like the helpless feeling of like being like, oh, I don't know. And I'm like, my brother, Bobby does it really well, and he like he's very good at like trying really hard to communicate. He's very and he and he's really good at it. And it's not even that like a patience thing, it's just more like I feel dumb most of the time. Got it. Um, so yeah, I mean I did I enjoyed it. That was the piece that was hard that was like, but towards the end, I didn't even really I like after you get into it, it's like whatever. And like I said, a lot of places were really cool, and like we'd go up and we'd you know, we'd say at least start with like oh no, and then they're like, hey, like same thing. And then hey, what do you want? And then I was like, I caught myself like saying thank you, like Dunkishin in in German, and they'd be like, eh, no problem. And I'm like, okay, well, this is done. And so that was good. Would I do it again? Well, the tour was great. I think I actually think that if you can afford it and you and you want to see a country like comprehensively, I think the tour is good. Yeah, okay. Unless you want to do your own research, and even then I feel like oh we're just saying like the tour guide just really helped us a lot, and we got a lot of info.

SPEAKER_01 33:30

I would agree. We did a tour of Italy, and I felt the same way where I was like, Man, like if I had gone by myself, I would have done it completely differently. And this saved me so much time and energy, and like took me to places I wouldn't have even thought to go see, and like were so worth it.

SPEAKER_02 33:43

Yeah. I and I think that like that personally for me. I'm like, if I were to ever go do another country when when I do another country, when we when we do another country, I think um it would be it would be fun to do the tour. Honestly, like with the right people, I'll say I think like if I was going with you guys, I think it'd be different. But you know, I was like, and also I'll say, I don't know when we were like it was just me and my brothers. We a lot of people came up to start talking full German to us.

SPEAKER_01 34:12

We were like, they look he looked like it's a lot of different things.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

But then my dad would come in, and I was like, okay, well, we lost it.

SPEAKER_03 34:16

And my dad does not look wait, so who's the German one? He's the German one. I know but your mom the German one?

SPEAKER_02 34:21

He looked very he is, but he looked very touristy.

SPEAKER_03 34:24

I I gotta say, loved his hat. He looked very touristy. I love I'll say my my big my big three from your trip is Bobby's updates on his Instagram. He posts one million pictures a day. I loved it. Uh-huh. I wanted more. I know. I wanted more. Your dad's hat was great. I love that hat. Halfway through your trip, the hat appears. I'm like, I know he got that at a little like Dust Tourist Trap or something. Yeah. Dust Tourist Trap. Awesome.

SPEAKER_02 34:50

He lost his pottery hat on like the third day. And so he's like, he didn't have he didn't have any hat. He left it in a hotel. And so then he and then he's like, I'm gonna get a new hat. So he bought like a gas station, like black, unmarked, like very plain one. Sure. But my dad has a big head, so it's like they didn't really fit him. And then comfortable. And then randomly we're in Rothenberg and we're like walking around, and he just shows up with it. And we're like, where did you get the hat? He goes, Oh, I went in there and got the hat. And I was like, How many like how many Euros was that? You know, doesn't matter. At an R or like 40 or 50. I'm like, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 35:24

My other big big get from your trip is this picture right here. There's John having a great time. You guys remember what uh John's brother Dave looks like. There he is. My brother It looks like he fought in World War II and he was like celebrating maybe.

SPEAKER_02 35:42

Yes. It was, and then I like I'm I mean I I don't know, it's hard to explain, but like you know, we it's my brother as my dad, and so I'm like we were just like chipping at each other the whole time, like giving each other crap the whole time, and then it was like one of us would crash out and the other two would like pile on, and then the you know, it was just it was it was a lot of fun though, and we we had a deck of cards the entire time, and we were playing all different games like trash, we were playing you know 31, and they don't know golf, and then they wouldn't like golf, but they wouldn't like it. We had a we had a good time there, a lot of a couple train rides, mostly bus rides, and then yeah, it was a lot of fun, man. It was great. So fun. It makes me want to go.

SPEAKER_03 36:24

It makes me want to go.

SPEAKER_01 36:25

Are you glad to be back in the US of A?

SPEAKER_02 36:27

Yeah, I'll say when we got back, um well we we we flew into Seattle and we were in Seattle for an hour or something, but I literally like started it it like it like took a long time to develop my brain that like, oh, I'm reading English again. And I'm gonna fully understand me. Because I'm like, for so long, I just got used to just like not really paying attention to the fact that like every menu is in a different like is in German basically, and then now I like looking around and I was like, oh, like I can read everything on Germany.

SPEAKER_03 36:58

Oh, sorry, like I I'm just so used to reading German.

SPEAKER_00 37:01

Obnoxious, my obnoxious account switched to Spanish the other day.

SPEAKER_03 37:09

That was today.

SPEAKER_00 37:10

It was actually a couple days ago, and I just told you about it today. What?

SPEAKER_03 37:13

It literally You only figured it out today.

SPEAKER_00 37:15

I was like because it was on our registry link, it wasn't on our Amazon app, it was through like Babylist. So every time I go to Amazon through Babylist, it was in Spanish. And I was like, why is it in Spanish? What the heck is going on? So I had to like go through and try and find where to switch the link. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 37:35

You took four years of Spanish, that didn't help. Well, I found it. Oh, take that. Well I'll tell you this, John, and maybe you didn't feel this because you were in a foreign country. We just went to Hawaii. We got back from Hawaii a couple weeks ago. The last day of our trip, I'm like, okay, I'm ready to go home. Like let's go check in, see what everybody's doing. The first day we get back, I'm like, okay, I'm ready to go back. Like, I screw this. I love vacation. Home sucks. I don't know if you feel that, but I feel that. I feel that.

SPEAKER_02 38:05

It was I I had a lot of fun, but you know, at the same time, you know, it was like it was a long trip. It was 13 days away from little guy.

SPEAKER_03 38:11

So Well, I I bet. Wow, I forgot about that. You'll feel that. Now you're stuck with that. Damn. Well, speaking of feeling that hi everybody. This show is brought to you by Patreon.

SPEAKER_00 38:25

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SPEAKER_03 38:27

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SPEAKER_01 39:17

Hitler. Hitler. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:20

That's how it happens. I anything you want to say that's patriotic, Annie. No, meaning.

SPEAKER_01 39:27

Let's put more preservative than the challenge.

SPEAKER_02 39:30

What's that little thing they did?

SPEAKER_01 39:36

That's great. And then they can shoot a gun in the air.