Jon Fogel is a dad who combined his passion for parenting, neuroscience, and impacting the world to create a viral social media account (@wholeparent) and then to publish his book, Punishment-Free Parenting. 

Jon and I get lost in some pretty deep topics together, including 

• How he helps parents make huge parenting shifts
• How parenting with punishment relies on a pretty pessimistic view of humanity
• Boundaries vs. Consequences vs. Punishments

Resources mentioned in this podcast:

• Punishment Free Parenting by Jon Fogel
• Jon’s Instagram: Whole Parent

Dive into these topics further on past Baffling Behavior Show episodes

• Boundaries Series (ep. 111, 113, & 115)
• Ep. 56: But what about a consequence
• Ep. 134 What if Trauma Informed Isn’t? 
• Ep. 54: Has Trauma Informed Become another Behavior Modification Technique?
• Ep. 30: Trauma Behavior? Or just acting up?

Read the full transcript at: RobynGobbel.com/punishmentfree

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