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Welcome to Hut Cast. Welcome back to HU Cast. We have an very extraordinary guest today. Scott Shera is gonna share a story about his daughter and how things kind of went. Very bad, very fast. Uh, are you there, Scott? I am. Thank you, Tim. Okay. Thanks for coming on the show. And, and, and again, I'm glad to, to, to know you, but I'm very sorry for the consequences of what happened.

What, let's start out with who's Gracie? Do we call her Grace or do we call her Grace? 

We call her Grace. Yeah. She, she had a little stinker in her kindergarten class before we homeschooled. Whose name was Gracie. So she always made sure that we, we told, uh, everybody that she's Grace, not Gracie. Okay. She was, she was a, a stickler for those type of things.

So she like, I'll give you another quick example. She, I would say, come on guys, let's get going. And she would say, dad, we're not guys. No. So you got corrected. Yes. Uh, and when she did it, uh, you know, she didn't do it like, like our wives do it, she did it lovingly, r 

Right. Well, that's, that's awesome. Now, now let's start out with the story of Gracie.

When, when, how do you, how did you know that she was, that's special when, when you first brought her home? 

Well, I'll take a step back because I think, uh, the, the, um, so this isn't gonna be a biology lesson, although I'm gonna tell you how Grace was conceived. If we go all the way back, she was born September 22nd, 2002.

We go nine months earlier. My wife and I are both 39 years old at that point. Uh, we had the perfect family, boy, girl. You know, we're chasing the American dream and we asked dad to. Lead in the baby department, um, because we weren't letting him lead. And I, I teased Cindy's my wife's name, I tease her that she's Fertile Myrtle and Fertile Myrtle became pregnant five months later.

Yeah. So I think that's why, you know, we, we had turned it over to. To the Lord to lead. And I mean, unbelievably how he blessed us with her. So I'd look at why was Grace special? You know, of course that's one reason we homeschooled her. That's another reason and we never vaccinated her. But when she came out, what's interesting is I was in the delivery room and I thought, I think she has Down syndrome.

We had never, never done any of the testing. The doctors then had a huddle and they came in a bit later and said, we suspect your daughter has Down syndrome. Do you want to keep her? Whoa. Which, they weren't talking about abortion at that point. I mean, in the United States, 67% of Down's, children are aborted before birth.

But they were just assuming that we wouldn't want her, that we'd want to put her up for adoption. And you know, of course we wanted her. So you asked how did we know she was special? Well, we started doing, um, some training for, for her speaking ability, and that's the first time I really knew she was special.

We had some therapist come in the house and she would understand things and I, you know, you're processing, you've never had a down syndrome. Person in our life. So you're thinking, well, this is not gonna work out real well, but you know, we're, we're along for the ride and we're gonna make the best of it.

Well, all of a sudden she would start paying attention to these two therapists, and then I could tell her things, even though she couldn't communicate, I could tell her things and she would do it, you know, like stiffen her legs. And then she started signing. So my wife taught her through a baby science class how to sign.

So she would sign more milk if she wanted more mama's milk. And then we got introduced to what's called hippotherapy, which is horse riding to get the, the muscle stimulated. For, for her voice. And she started talking. And uh, from there, you know, the first thing that, that I would say, where I noticed she was special is she was about six years old.

And my wife and I got into an argument and she said, aren't you supposed to apologize? And I, you know, think about a six year old with down center. We never taught her any of this stuff. And I said, yeah, you're right, grace. And so I apologized. Cindy apologized, and then, but that wasn't enough for Grace, and this is where the special piece come in.

Comes in, she said. Aren't you supposed to kiss? I thought, oh my gosh, that is unbelievably brilliant. And I said, yeah, you're right. So of course one of us was ready and one wasn't. But then I'll add one more thing to that and then you can go on with another question. Is that, uh, probably when she was, so that was about six, I would say when she was nine or 10 range, she started calling me Earthly dad.

Earthly dad. Earthly dad. Yeah. Okay. And she called my wife earthly mom. Well, who does that? You know, she, but she understood, she understood where she fits. She understood God's plan, and she, um, she, she, uh, executed it the way we're supposed to Then, you know, we, we just don't have that inside of us. You know, we're judgmental.

As soon as we become, you know, outside of. 7, 8, 9 years old. We learned to, to be very judgmental and you know, that's not God's way, but grace, grace was not like that at all. Wow. That's an, 

that's an incredible story. Wow. I I'm still in awe there. Um, what were some of the challenges faced as she was growing up?

I mean, as baby with Downs is, is always a challenge, but I mean, beyond that, what were the challenges that she had that you had 

with her uh, that's a great question. You know, I would say the answer to that question is none, but it, the reason I say that is because God blinded us to the challenges we had.

Uh, one of the few medical professionals that understood we wanted to keep Grace said to us, you know, there you can put two different kids, or you know, the same kid in two different households, and they can turn out differently, and your view of grace should be the sky is the limit. Ah, and we, we had that view.

She did, just to give you some perspective, she could read and write. She, uh, played violin. She played it well, she played for my daughter's wedding. I did read she 

did play violin. Yes. 

Yeah. She of course rode horse as I referenced earlier. She deer hunted with me and she was, she was super accurate. Wow. She was, she shot a 2 43.

Cuz you know, that doesn't get very much, but I mean, unbelievable accuracy because she didn't, she never learned how to flinch. I taught her how to shoot and she just did it. And she would, she would show me how, you know, when we go to the Target and see how well she did, she'd show me how much better she always did than me.

Ah, there you go. And I, I taught her how to drive a car. She never got her driver's license. Um, but, and, and it's simply because she died too soon, she would've got her driver's license. And I'll tell you, uh, you know how she connected the dots. I'll give you a quick story. So when she turned 18, she wanted to vote and because she didn't have a driver's license, we had to get an id.

So then I thought, well, why don't we stop at the, uh, where we bank? I'll set up an appointment with the branch manager. Let's get a checking account open up. So we, same day, we got her, her id. We go to the. The credit union branch and the branch manager sets up the checking account and then she says to Grace, would you also like a credit card?

And Grace says, well, of course. Yeah. And she says, what would you like to limit to be? And Grace says 30. And the branch manager said $30. And Grace said No. 30,000. There you have that, right? Yeah. So you asked, you know, what were the limitations? I, you know, I'll, I'll share with you. At Grace's funeral, I was very weak.

I had just gotten outta the hospital. I went into the hospital three days after Grace died. I just about died. And, but I gave a eulogy, and when, uh, it was my turn to speak, I, I said, you know, In the line, people are coming up to Cindy and I and saying how great of a job we did with Grace, and the reality is we didn't do a great job at all.

And the reason is is cuz we didn't have to do anything. Our life was just blessed with her. She was, she was a gift. She didn't have any of the, the snotty teenage years, those things that you end up going through as parents. I mean, she was, uh, I said, you don't get any credit in God's economy for taking care of somebody like Grace.

You get credit when you can love the unlovable, and that's what Grace showed. And. Then I said, you know, I, I don't even know that I love the un unlovable in my sleep. And, you know, so I would, of course you have, you have problems. But I, when you, uh, asked me for specific problems, we had, I would say, although only, only thing I would say was real, real interesting is she went through a point when, where she was an escape artist.

Where she just wanted to do everything and didn't care who was paying attention. So we ended up putting a barn door hook on our screen door really high up so she couldn't reach it. Uh, so she went through that phase for about, I would say three years. You know, when we go to a wedding, whatever, one of us just had to be designated to watching Grace, right?

Because she went, she just wanted to escape. But other than, that's the only thing I can really remember that was negative. Okay. 

With her exceptional talents, only her father and her family would know something that the rest of the world wouldn't know. What would that be? Did she like something and did she, did she, she wanted to drive.

What, what is that? 

Very, well, that's an easy one for me because I think I always thought Grace and I would do standup comedy together. Ahuh. Yeah. And, and I, she was naturally funny. Just absolutely funny. And I thought I could be her sidekick. I thought she might be the first Down syndrome comic and with a dad as a sidekick.

So, um, and she got stuff, so she liked cats, for example, Uhhuh, but she got that cats would divide a room. So I told Grace, I said, dad's allergic to cats. And well, how do you know? I said, well, because every time a cat walks in front of me, my right leg goes up uncontrollably. And you know, she got that. It wasn't that, you know, she, she didn't.

Looked down at me for that. She just saw the humor in that, that, you know, cats are something that, that you can really do comedy about. And you know, and I'll share an example, when we were deer hunting, you know, and you know when you deer hunt, there's a lot of boring time. And we're sitting there one time in the stand and she said, dad, I have a joke for you.

I said, what's your joke? And she said, where do bees go to the bathroom? I said, I don't know. Where do they go to the bathroom? And she says, the BP station. Which for those of you who don't know what BP stations are, that's a gas station chain that's in the Midwest. So, I mean the BP station, I mean, my gosh, I'm, I thought this BPS is so funny and she just makes it up on her own British petroleum.

I get it. Yeah.

To the BP station. Yeah. I would say her humor was, uh, you know, and she got, I mean, when she learned the joke, um, Uh, have you read the book Under the, under the Bleachers? And so she would tell, ask people, and I'd say, no, I haven't heard that. And, and, uh, she, she, so she'd say, have you read the book under the bleachers?

No. Who? And she'd say, well, do you wanna know who it was written by? And they'd say, yeah. Who was it written by? And she'd say, see more butts. Yeah. And so then she would, she would make up her own. Jokes based on that bass joke that she was told and all the Snoopy sales thing. Right, right. Oh, it was, it was just, was, so I, I, of course I miss her hugs mostly, but, you know, her sense of humor was, it was a blast.

I just, I enjoyed it. Well, 

it sounds like she was very successful and given that. People around the world may be listening to this, what would you say? What would you tell them? Her secret to her 

success was,

um, she never got distracted. You know, our life is full of distractions and, uh, her favorite scripture verse was First John four eight, which she abbreviated. God is love, and she just never got distracted. She just always realized that, okay, God's got this. Um, my son committed suicide in, in 2018. Sorry. The day, the day after, the day after he committed suicide.

Grace and I were riding in my truck together and I said, grace, you know, God's got this right? And she said, I know Dad. Mm-hmm. And the thing is, is I didn't know, you know, I was trying to comfort her, but she ended up comforting me. Hmm. She really did know. She, yeah. We get distracted and, you know, then it, it leads to all kinds of things that aren't helpful.

Sure. To, to our thought process, et cetera. She never got distracted. Well, that, 

that's, uh, that's incredible. 

Yeah. You know, at the beginning, I, I thought. You know, she's not going to experience a lot of things in life cuz she has Down syndrome. Mm-hmm. And then as I, I learned what Down Syndrome is about and then we, we got to the point where we explained to her she has Down syndrome.

So she understood that and she embraced it and I thought, oh my gosh, I wish I had Down Syndrome. Which leads me into 

my next question, given her circumstances, you have parents with similar. Kids out there, so similar children, what would you tell them? Parents,

I would tell them, uh, that learn from your, your Down syndrome child because they, they are an angel with you on earth and they're there to, to teach you, um, race. You know, as I've shared already, grace did a lot of teaching for us. She's. Uh, interestingly, God took her home early, I think, to wake me up to teach me a lot more, and that's, you know, that's what's happening today.

But I would say that anybody who has a Down syndrome child or any disabled child, uh, watch what they teach you and pay attention to it because you've got an angel. Okay, 

very good. Very good answer. We are 15 minutes and 2016 minutes into the second, first segment. I wanna move on to the, uh, next segment, which is gonna be about the hospital stay.

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Sure we, we'll go to September of 2021 and Grace had a cold.

We ended up testing her on October 1st for Covid. And the reason we did is because we were gonna go to a wedding that day. My wife's, um, One of my wife's cousins was getting married and wanted to go to a wedding, and we just thought, well, we better not bring grace if she has covid. So she got a home test.

Uh, we tested her, she tested positive, so we stayed home. Grace was on the full F L C C C protocol. And what is the f l ccc? That's the lines critical Covid care. So this was Dr. Pierre Corey, Dr. Paul Merrick. They, they put this organization together to help people with alternative treatments. So, For Covid.

Mm-hmm. So that included Ivermectin, vitamin D, vitamin C, vitamin A, you know, the, the entire protocol, zinc. And so we started Grace on everything. Uh, the one thing that we also did was we bought the recommended pulse ox, which is a meter that you put on your finger to measure oxygen saturation. Lack an oximeter.

Yes. Okay. I just a, yeah, I'm, I'm using the, the short version name. Okay. Anyway, we, we started measuring that, which, you know, at this point, now that I see everything, you know, hindsight is 2020, and now that I see things, um, As as they are versus what I thought was going on. I wish we would've never bought the pulse ox.

And the reason is is because, not because that's a bad thing to own, it's because we were trusting what they said in the protocol versus we didn't have that baseline. So what happens with people's oxygen is when you get sick with a cold or flu, whatever, your oxygen saturation goes down. So if we would've had a baseline for grace, When we started measuring now with Covid, we would've known, okay, it's fine.

We'll just, we'll just walk through this. It's no big deal. But when that number went to 88%, the protocol said If it goes below 94%, uh, admit yourself to the hospital. So that set of sequence of events where unfortunately we let fear overtake us and uh, you know, the spirit of fear is not given to us by God.

And that is by far and away the biggest take home message I could tell anybody is if you have that fear go opposite, because that fear is why grace is not here today. Mm-hmm. Ultimately, we went to the emergency room and. Admitted grace to the hospital, the emergency room physician said, we'll just put her on oxygen and a steroid for three, four days and she'll be home.

And I believed that. I didn't understand that there was, uh, nefarious agenda going on at that point. So I thought, well, that makes sense to me. So we did that. And if they would've only treated grace with a steroid and oxygen, grace would be here today. And I know that with, uh, a hundred percent certainty because I went into a different hospital three days after Grace died, and they used a protocol that saved my life.

I was turned around at 24 hours and I was near dead. I thought October 16th was gonna be my last day on Earth Grace's last day was October 13th, the week after we had literature to the hospital. So, Just a short version of that story is I stayed with Grace from October 6th in the emergency room until October 10th.

I was taken out by an armed guard the morning of the 10th. We had to hire an attorney to get my daughter Jessica in as a replacement advocate. And so the attorney negotiated with the hospital attorney to get Jessica in. My wife could not do it at the time because she had covid. We had 47 hours total without advocacy.

When we reviewed the records after Grace died, we saw that the doctor ordered a sedation med called Precedex, and they started her on a low dose on October 9th. Precedex, if you look up the package, forer for that drug says you're not supposed to use it for more than 24 hours. They started around the low dose.

Then while we didn't have advocacy, they increased the dose six different times. So they sedated my little buddy instead of taking care of her. When Jessica got to the room, surprisingly Grace was still herself. Uh, interestingly, one of the key things that Grace said to Jessica is the nurses are idiots.

That is way out of context for grace, uh, based on, you know, everything about hers. But she could see things so that can, yes. Yeah. So they didn't treat her right. Uh, and of course she saw how, you know, me being taken out by an armed guard, that whole thing. I mean, so she, um, That was not a good, that was not a good situation.

But ultimately, so now the evening of October 12th, grace is already being sedated for four days and yet still herself. She sits up in bed. Before she went to sleep that night, Jessica called her two boys, Grace's nephews on a FaceTime call and Grace set up with a BiPAP mask on and hollered and waved to them and said, hi, boys.

And you know, it was intelligible. The next morning the doctor called. So now we're, I'm gonna walk through quickly, Grace's last day on Earth, which was October 13th, 2021. The doctor called Cindy and I about 10 o'clock in the morning. He was following up on a call from the night before, and the purpose of the call from the night before was to ask us for a preauthorization to put grace on a ventilator just in case.

So we had already done the research on a ventilator. We knew that a ventilator has a 90%. Kill rate. With Covid, we're not doing a ventilator. Grace was never a ventilator candidate, but as I have become a full-time advocate and researcher, I found out the motive behind a ventilator. It's about a $300,000 payday to the hospital.

Mm-hmm. So he calls us to ask about this ventilator again for the fifth time. We say no for the fifth time. He immediately switches gears and said, grace had such a good day yesterday. We should work on nutrition. And we need to get her out of bed so she can get out of here in the next several days. Okay?

So we, we buy into all of that. We approve a feeding tube. And when you, now you overlay the phone records with the hospital records, you see what was going on. Um, wait till you hear what happened next. So while we're on the phone with him, they increased the dose of precedex to 14 times the dose. They started her on four and a half days earlier, the maximum allowable dose simultaneous with hanging up the phone with us.

The doctor put an illegal do not resuscitate order on grace. Then as the day progressed, a added to precedence, lorazepam and morphine. So the first cause of death on Grace's death certificate is acute respiratory failure with hypoxemia. That's a direct cause and effect for using precedex for more than 24 hours.

It says it right in the package. Insert that this will happen. It doesn't say it may happen, it will happen, and it did happen well. Then the second cause of death they listed on the death certificate was Covid 19 pneumonia. Grace did not have covid by any measurement on the day of her death. Okay. The second cause of death was combining precedex with lorazepam and morphine.

That's what you give hospice patients in the last half hour of their life. It combined those drugs in a 29 minute window that you and I could not have survived him. Wow. And we have multiple experts that that's have said to us, the meds killed your daughter. So we know this in fact. As I detailed out how that happened and crossed everything cross-referenced with the records, I realized after I got through everything, about five months after Grace died, I realized she was actually murdered.

And the, the combination of meds then, Grace started. So Jessica's in the room with her. They gave her morphine at six 15. Remember the phone call with the doctor is about 10 o'clock. At 10 56. They put the d n r order on grace they gave started giving her Lorazepam. Then at 5 46, a dose of Lorazepam 5 49, a dose of Lorazepam six 15, a dose of morphine, and that's that 29 minute window, about six 30.

Jessica feels grace starting to get. Cold. She asked for the I C U nurse who has 14 years of experience. She's going to gave grace the meds. She asked her, can you come in and take a temp? You know, grace is getting cold and she would refuse to come in the room. In fact, no doctor or nurse came in the room after they gave Grace morphine.

The morphine package insert specifically says to monitor the patient and keep the reversal drug bedside because you're not supposed to combine those meds. They're contraindicated. They can cause death. It says it right in the black box. Warning on the morphine package insert, no doctor and nurse came in the room after they gave grace morphine.

The nurse told Jessica, that's normal, just cover it with a blanket. She kept getting colder at seven 20. Jessica called Cindy and I. You know, we're, we have no idea what's going on. She called us panicking on a FaceTime call and said, dad, Grace's numbers are dropping like crazy. I said, get the nurses in.

She said, I've been trying. They refuse. So Cindy and I start screaming through the phone, through the FaceTime call Save our daughter. And they hollered back from outside the room. She's dnr, do not resuscitate. This is the first, I mean, it's like we're clueless on this. Oh boy. So we screamed back. She's not dnr.

Save our daughter. They would not come in the room. They refused. And we watched Grace Die seven minutes later at 7 27 on a FaceTime call. And we got a couple of clues into this as we talked with Jessica, because later, you know, after everything shook out that evening, I, I took Cindy to the hospital immediately.

I waited in in the truck because I had Covid. Well, when we talked with Jessica afterwards, she said, dad, there was an armed guard posted outside the room. Oh boy. She had, she estimated 30 nurses outside. Grace's room because of shift change and this armed guard and then the armed guard watched Jessica, she, she crawled in bed with grace after she died waiting for Cindy, and the armed guard stood outside the nurse's window and watched Jessica the entire time.

We found out from a medical malpractice nurse who reviewed the records that during that window, cuz Grace was still on the BiPAP, she likely could have been resuscitated. Then the last thing I'll say, Tim, before you can start asking some more questions, is as that evening, you know, the, the coroner came and, you know, the body bagg, that whole thing.

Mm-hmm. Um, the, our pastor walks into out in a wheelchair and the nurse had Grace's belongings on a cart, and she laying down next to Cindy as they were walking out and said, Mrs. Sherra, me and several of the nurses don't think gray should have died today. Mm-hmm. And from there, you know, now we're, now we're, our whole family is full-time advocates and yeah, researchers and because we, we knew something bad happened, but at the beginning we thought it was, was simply an anomaly.

And so we wanted the hospital to know what's going on, so we assembled all the records. I requested a meeting with the doctor and the hospital ceo. They refused to meet and you think, what is going on? Why wouldn't they want to know it? We thought, you know, again, we thought it was an anomaly, so we wanted to show them what we found out.

So history doesn't repeat itself well as I have found out now that they want history to repeat itself. That was the goal. 

Okay. Wow. I'm still processing that. 

It's, it's intense. Every time I tell the story, it's, uh, I can hear it in your voice. It's, it's tough to, it's tough to relive it. The hardest, the hardest part of reliving it is October 10th when I was taken out by the armed guard, uh, for about three months after.

Grace died. I woke up every single night in the middle of the night, two, three in the morning, uh, and with the question on my mind, why didn't I take her with me? We had never left Grace alone ever. Why didn't I take her with me? But I can't, uh, you, I can't second guess that now I, I know God is sovereign.

He knew that this would light a fire under my lazy rear end and now, and. I'm doing this 70 plus hours a week. 

Well, that's why we're here today to tell that story. I've had a couple of people on the show that had similar issues, not like this, but the same covid stuff, and they all have this common thing, and I, it just, you, you sit back and you go, this don't even make any sense.

Ander Scott and Annie Coiner story. Uh oh. There's the list is on, but here, here's what I wanna do now. In the last segment, because we are like 15 minutes, almost 15 minutes into this section, I wanna talk about, not to turn this into a conspiracy, but the legal ramifications of what just happened this last segment.

And I, I believe that this is where the rubber hits the road. So I'll give you a moment to compose. Let's, uh, let's take a break here. And then come back and we'll talk about, uh, the rest of this. Are you okay with that? 

Sounds good too. Okay. 

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The legal side of this, the, the, the part that is currently in motion. And, and without turning us into a conspiracy thing, I'd like to hear from him and say, O okay, Scott, what do you really believe? Why do you think these guys took this kind of protocol before we jump really into the legal, but it ties that together with the legal.

So why, why do you think that they illegally put a DNR on grace? 

Well, that's a great question. I was asked this by a reporter right after the lawsuit dropped and she asked me specifically, do you think Grace was killed because she has Down Syndrome? I said, yes, I do. And she said, are you a conspiracy theorist?

I said, well, people like you wanna label me that way, but I have the proof. And so she was, I said, are you at your laptop? She said, yes. I said, I wanna send you an email and let's go through something. And so first I educated her on the fact that 67% of Down Syndrome people are murdered before they're born.

Okay, so then you start with that, and then you see Obamacare was implemented on March 23rd, 2010, and Ezekiel Emanuel was the chief architect of Obamacare, and this is a quote from Ezekiel Emanuel. He said, quote, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating.

Citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. All right, so wrap your head around that statement. Then you look at. No. How many people have actually read Obamacare? Well, because of the research that I've been doing, Uhhuh, I discovered Section 1553 of Obamacare. And if you're not familiar with that section, Obamacare is 906 pages long.

It's on page 1 41, and it calls out the, the method that they're, they want to use to kill people and euthanasia, mercy killing. And assisted suicide are called out as tools, right. In Obamacare. Well then I showed her the next document, which is, uh, the document specifically for Down Syndrome people. And how I got even clued into this, Tim, is God got me up one morning real early when he started researching in January and.

The, the thing that I did that morning was I went through all the records and looked for biases, and so they had biases related to the fact that were Christian biases related to the fact that Grace was unvaccinated, but the main bias that came through was Down Syndrome. When a doctor enters a patient's room, they have to write a report, okay?

So at the end of their shift, they dictate a report. So there was 22 doctors who saw Grace during the seven days she was in the hospital. Those 22 doctors reports referenced that Grace says Down Syndrome, 36 different things Down Syndrome does not change the standard of care. It shouldn't then. Then I found the smoking gun document, which is from the Palliative Care Network of Wisconsin, and this document was written in July of 2011, one year after Obamacare was passed.

And it's a implementation document and it lays out specifically, it's a training document for MDs and it lays out like you would expect any training document, an introduction of body and conclusion. Well, the introduction. Says these Down syndrome people have nothing but problems and they lay out about 50 problems.

I have the document in front of me, so they lay out osteoporosis, chronic constipation, incontinence, uh, septal defects, thyroid dysfunction, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Just keeps, it, doesn't say anything about the benefits. You know, you heard the benefits in section one of this, this show lays out all the problems.

So then what's the purpose of that? They're trying to convince these medical professionals that the family doesn't want these Down syndrome children or adults in their life. So the transition statement says, specifically, I'm quoting here, the lifelong toll on families is high. Part of a robust plan of care includes acknowledgement of this toll by healthcare workers, or excuse me, healthcare providers.

So they're saying specifically, here's all the problems. And you gotta realize these families don't want these Down syndrome people in their life. And we as healthcare providers, we have to acknowledge that fact. Okay? Then they make the transition statement into, uh, what is our responsibility with this fact pattern that we have sold you?

This is, by the way, the spirit of collectivism. So collectivism says we've got to limit things or do things for the benefit of society, not the benefit of the individual. So that goes back to Ezekiel and manual statement. So here's the, here's the closing statement in this training document, whenever possible decision makers, that's the doctors for people with down syndrome should be encouraged to use substituted judgment to make key palliative care decisions.

All efforts should be made to determine the preferences of a patient. However, because of lifelong cognitive impairment, the views of the person with Down Syndrome may not be known. So the doctor is given the green light to make a decision on life or death. With this person with Down syndrome in the case of Grace, you know, putting an illegal D n R on her, I mean, that's it.

It's unconscionable. And then the state organization who is supposed to pro protect the public, I wrote a complaint letter to them. It's the Department of Safety and Professional Services in Wisconsin. I wrote a complaint letter about the doctor putting this d n r order on grace. And they wrote back on December 5th of 22 and said that the Wisconsin d n r statute does not apply to physicians operating in a hospital non-emergency room settings, such as the one in question.

So they're saying the doctor can put a D N R in any anybody he wants any time if it's in a hospital setting. I gave you an awful long answer there. I I, I hope that was acceptable. 

Sure. Sure. I, I'm on a question about the page 1 41 of the Obamacare. When was that published? 

Yes. March 23rd, 2010. 2010. 

Okay.

Because I find it odd that, but you remember Jack Korian? Yes. Now he was, he was actually sentenced in April of 99. Yes. Now that's 10 years, 11 years after the fact. And, and if they're gonna do well, if it's, I mean, not that this is assisted suicide, this is actually sounds a murder, but if Obamacare is gonna employ these techniques in their law, why did they put this guy in jail at the time?

I mean, it, it didn't 

make no sense to me. Well, that's a, that's a fantastic question. This is by far and away the most important topic that I've been researching since Grace's death. I was not familiar at all with dialectics that they do one thing. It's like the magician. He's does one thing with his left hand while the right hand is doing all the work.

Yeah. Doing the other thing. So the ivorian, you can look at the Ivorian situation as a psyop to set up what they really wanted to do. They take the, the public has got their eye over here and here they're doing this right now. The sure you know, of course the largest SI up going on is the presidential election.

They got everybody, and people don't realize that stuff doesn't matter. You know, it's all meant to take our eye off the ball while they do all this nefarious type of thing. So I would look at the Korian situation as that was a tool to get them to be able to do this. Has a slight of hands. It seems odd, doesn't it?

11 

years later, yes. But you know, Obamacare just didn't happen overnight. That was a, a writing of a writing of writing and they had to get that passed through the state in the house and the Senate and everything, and, and it just all of a sudden, hey, now we're doing m Now the doctors have that because everybody's under the scare of, of, of a pandemic, a pandemic.

Well, I agree a hundred percent and you know, people get hung up on Democrat, Republican. I've been a conservative my whole life, but I'm, I, I am definitely not, uh, involved with politics anymore. 0%. Uh, in fact, I wanna run from it because the Republicans had an opportunity to repeal this. They chose not to.

So you don't, don't look at this as, you know, they labeled it Obamacare, which is also, you know, but the technical name. I'd have to, I gotta look this up. If you want it. I can give you the, but the technical name, they give you these, these flowery names so they don't ever tell you what they're, what they're really doing.

Um, I'm gonna look this up quick, Tim, just so we have it. Well, you know, there, it's quite an interesting, um, It, it's a way that they do this so that we, we don't pay attention. Sure. Pulling up Obamacare right here. So we have the name, it's called the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. So 

yes, and it's on, uh, March 23rd, 2010.

It was signed by Obama

and it's into law at that point. It's got, yeah, I'm reading it too. Yeah, but it just, uh, again, it was just, they put one guy in jail for helping people who, who were terminal 

Yes. Who had a reasonable 

effort to, to not want to be here by their choice. They've made this and he goes to jail, but yet these doctors run around making, I don't know, making their own law because of they're protected by this law and, and no one's willing to press on them.

That, that just seems weird. So now, now you got me mad. Okay. Now, now I'm a little upset here and I, and I wanna, I wanna focus and I wanna shift this thing into overdrive and say, okay, what are you doing? What are you doing legally? To give these guys some, some moment of 

pause. We took an extraordinary step on April 11th, we filed a lawsuit.

And I say it's extraordinary for two reasons. The first reason is this is the first lawsuit of its kind. And the reason it's the first lawsuit of its kind is because of tort reform. Tort reform was sold to us by the Republicans. And it's, uh, tort reform. If you just process, uh, the, the largest tort reform that most people would be familiar with would be the, uh, vaccine Act of 1986 that President Reagan signed.

Well, that gave immunity from liability to the vaccine manufacturers. So what was the purpose of that? Well, they said, well, if vaccine manufacturers have downstream liability, they'll never produce vaccines. Well, first that presumes that vaccines are even, uh, necessary. Um, but then, You know, so they're really not necessary if you believe in God.

But then if they are necessary, why don't they just manufacture something that works? Why do you need to have immunity from liability? Well, that same trickle down effect. Is in all the state legis, all the state statutes relative to suing doctors, there's limitations in all the state statutes. So when I talk with a medical malpractice internally early on, in Grace's case, I.

This was way back. I met an attorney that was, uh, a partner in a 300 partner firm. So a huge firm. He said, Scott, you got a big case here. I'm gonna introduce you to the best medical malpractice attorney in Wisconsin. So he did. I talked with the man. He said, Scott, even in slam dunk cases like this appears to be, you only have a one in 10 chance of winning.

Hmm. So what's the reason? He said, let me tell you about a case. He said, I represented a family where the husband died. He had a son, a sponge sewed up inside of him. With the, the surgery and we lost. I said, how could you lose that case? He said, I brought in 10 experts and they brought in a hundred. They circled the wagons around their own and the financial piece of it.

He explained the financial piece, which now I know, cause I read the state statute, the most you can win is $750,000. So due to the math, the attorneys get a third. All right. So 750,000, one in 10 chance is 75,000. A third is 25,000. Just the experts cost a hundred thousand. So unless you have the money, Right to Sue.

No attorneys are taking on these cases. Cases. So you know, praise God that we had the money because we were gonna take care of grace after we died. So we're using the money to file a case that has an extremely low chance of winning, not because we don't have the facts on our side. I mean, we have the facts on our side, but we're going up against Ascension Hospital system.

They're the second largest nonprofit in the United States. They're the largest Catholic. Hospital system, they have 30 billion in cash. They receive 10 billion in government bonus payments during the first year of Covid to do things like they did to grace. I mean, this stuff is huge. So then the se, so all of that said, the second thing we did with this case that makes it extraordinary is we also filed against the five doctors and two nurses who were directly involved with Grace's death.

Take it by personally. Personally. Yep. And the reason we did that case is not about money. It's about shedding light on evil. And we want every single doctor and nurse in the entire country to know you cannot use the excuse of following protocols to kill people. That doesn't cut it. In God's economy, there is responsibility for choice and you made a choice and now you have a consequence.

Uh, so we filed the case, uh, April 11th. They, all the defendants had to respond by May 15th. They did, uh, just share a, uh, I think I have it here. Yeah, just a couple of funny responses to give you a perspective. Uh, so Ascension Health is one of the ones that had to respond in the. They wrote in answer to paragraph six of the complaint, deny that Ascension Health directly provides healthcare services.

You know, to just process that, you know, that's, they obviously want us to spend more money on legal fees to say, well, you do provide healthcare services, but this is the, the most interesting one, affirmative defense number six. They, they wrote, any and all injuries or damages sustained by plaintiffs may be a direct approximate result of the negligence and or decisions made by the plaintiffs.

So they're blaming me for grace's death, which I've of course already admit. Uh, I took her to the hospital because of fear, so I am guilty of that, but I did not cause her death. So it's, this is the crazy stuff. We have a hearing coming up now on July 14th and. Yeah, that's a big deal. And that's next. This next Friday, uh, it's a, a hearing on a partial motion to dismiss.

And what they did is they're trying to frame Grace's case as only a medical malpractice case and medical malpractice is, is, uh, a result of what the case is really about. Case is about lack of informed consent, which is a legal battery. If we would've had informed consent, grace would be here today. Right?

But they just do everything without your knowledge. And then the person ends up dead and they wanna put it into this medical malpractice classification because of the limits of liability, which is how we got started with this conversation. And I'll just quote one thing out of the brief that they wrote, and this, this shares with you.

They're not bashful about this. They wrote the legislature's purpose in an act to enacting a statutory scheme to govern claims for damages. Arising out of the alleged medical negligence was to encourage healthcare providers to remain in Wisconsin by imposing certain limits on the causes of action that a patient or family member can pursue, and on the types and amount of the damages that can be recovered.

So when you look at that, it's the same as the. The vaccine injury exclusion from 1986 Sure. Is that why don't you just produce a good product? Why don't you just be a good doctor? If you're a good doctor, you're not gonna kill somebody, then you don't need to have statutory liability protection. Okay. Um, 

all this has been running through my head and we're, uh, 17 minutes in this last segment.

What would you think Grace would say? About this lawsuit with them. I mean, it, it's kind of an open question, but it, she seems very insightful and very, you know, I got to know her a little bit here today. What would she say? 

I. And that's, I know exactly what she would say cuz Jessica, the first time, the very first time I got on the air was on Newsmax on December 13th, 2021.

Mm-hmm. And Jessica called me after I was on live TV and said, dad, grace is up there saying way to go. Earthly dad, earthly dad.

Well, that's a heck of a say, right. 

We're all in on this, Tim. You know, the lawsuit. I'm not putting any faith in the lawsuit because it's a, it's a judicial system that's also corrupt, but we're using the lawsuit as a tool to, to sh to shine light on evil so the public knows what's going on. Grace's case is one of 1.2 million that happened during the 39 month Covid era.

The pandemic? Yes. Okay. 

What an interview, uh, where can be people help donate. Let's do that before we go. 

Um, they can, we have a Gibson go set up for Grace. The easiest way to get there, cuz I don't have the address memorized, but we set up, uh, a landing page for people to sign up to follow the case, and then there's a donate button there that connects to the Gibson go.

And that is, Grace shera.com and Shera is S C H A R A. So that's the easiest way for people to help. We're really trying to get a database of people because there are gonna be multiple calls to action as things progress. And you know, of course we appreciate donations also. Okay. 

Find 'em on the web.

Google 'em, you, you can find them. Uh, it just, Help 'em out. See what we can do. And you guys in other countries, I don't expect, uh, too much out of that era because you know, you guys gotta do the translation and money to all that. But if you can do, and this isn't just a, a US problem, this is a, a foreign problem, this is a global problem.

And hopefully you guys ain't running into the same problem we are. Anything to add before we go 

Scott? It, it, it's just a gift to be on your program. Tim, I appreciate it very much. The single most important thing I would tell anybody listening is if your goal is to be prepared for a hospital stay, the, you have to change your belief.

We believe that a hospital's a safe zone, and if you have that belief, the same thing can happen to you. If you believe what I just told you about grace and that hospitals are not safe zones, you'll do what's necessary to be protected. Your own advocate, there's a Yep. There's a whole bunch of things in that line, but that's gonna be another program.

Yeah. Okay. Super duper. Then we're gonna pull the pin. This is gonna be a long show the way it is. Thanks for listening, everybody. I appreciate Scott, thanks for coming on today and, and I'm very sorry for your whole situation. 

Thanks 

for having me, Tim. Okay, Huka, thanks for all listening and, and, uh, I just gotta go and process this and, and we'll see you next time.

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