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Lessons from the Maine Tragedy

October 29, 2023 Hutt Season 4 Episode 20
Lessons from the Maine Tragedy
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Lessons from the Maine Tragedy
Oct 29, 2023 Season 4 Episode 20
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We've often heard the question: Who really kills - guns or people? Today, we're getting up close and personal with the chilling story of the Maine shooting, sparking a nationwide shockwave. We navigate through the intricate details of the events and the subsequent manhunt, as told by CNN, and jump into the dark world of Robert Card - the suspect, a military-trained firearms expert who managed to evade the law despite stringent gun and red flag laws.

As we journey  into this unsettling narrative, we find ourselves questioning the motives behind Robert Card's heinous act and the inexplicable disappearance of his military record. Our exploration takes us through the intricate labyrinth of military and civilian weapons, inspecting the glaring differences that could have possible implications on the terrible aftermath. We're raising tough questions about the existing gun regulations - could gaps in the current gun control plans have facilitated this tragedy, and could reinforced regulations prevent another appalling incident?

But it's not all doom and gloom. As we conclude this intense episode, we reflect on the sentiments of relief that washed over the community at the end of the manhunt. We consider the path to healing after such a haunting ordeal, and how we, as a collective, can initiate the process of recovery. As this leaves an indelible mark on our show and you, our listeners, we invite you to extend your support to our podcast through our Facebook page, Huttcast. Brace yourself for a hard-hitting conversation - it's a dialogue we simply cannot afford to avoid.

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We've often heard the question: Who really kills - guns or people? Today, we're getting up close and personal with the chilling story of the Maine shooting, sparking a nationwide shockwave. We navigate through the intricate details of the events and the subsequent manhunt, as told by CNN, and jump into the dark world of Robert Card - the suspect, a military-trained firearms expert who managed to evade the law despite stringent gun and red flag laws.

As we journey  into this unsettling narrative, we find ourselves questioning the motives behind Robert Card's heinous act and the inexplicable disappearance of his military record. Our exploration takes us through the intricate labyrinth of military and civilian weapons, inspecting the glaring differences that could have possible implications on the terrible aftermath. We're raising tough questions about the existing gun regulations - could gaps in the current gun control plans have facilitated this tragedy, and could reinforced regulations prevent another appalling incident?

But it's not all doom and gloom. As we conclude this intense episode, we reflect on the sentiments of relief that washed over the community at the end of the manhunt. We consider the path to healing after such a haunting ordeal, and how we, as a collective, can initiate the process of recovery. As this leaves an indelible mark on our show and you, our listeners, we invite you to extend your support to our podcast through our Facebook page, Huttcast. Brace yourself for a hard-hitting conversation - it's a dialogue we simply cannot afford to avoid.

Gene German
Certified Firearms Instructor - Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Florida

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Graith Care Independent Patient Advocate medical advocacy, consultation, advice US and International

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Thank you for listening to this episode of HuttCast, the American Podcast. We hope you enjoyed today's discussion and gained valuable insights. To stay updated on our latest episodes, be sure to subscribe to our podcast on your preferred listening platform. Don't forget to leave us a rating and review, as it helps others discover our show. If you have any comments, questions, or suggestions for future topics, please reach out to us through our website or social media channels. Until next time, keep on learning and exploring the diverse voices that make America great.

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Speaker 1:

Happy Sunday, somber contents today about the shooter in Maine. We're going to cover that a little bit. We're going to go over some things that just don't make any sense. So I want you to sit back, put your thinking caps on and remember guns don't kill people, people kill people. I want you to know that. I want you to remember that, even though this tragic event did happen and I cannot believe that there was all these people there there wasn't a good guy with a gun to stop this. So Hutcast pre-Halloween show stuff can't get any weirder than this Full moon, the whole deal Coming out. Come on back.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome back to Hutcast. As you see, in the world today, there's a lot of nuts out there and a lot of crazy people. You can't figure out why, for the life of me, that these people constantly have issues with life. I get it. There's mental illness. You can't quantify that. It's just something that is and you try to get past it and you don't want to think it's there, but it's still there. As I said in pre-roll, guns don't kill people. The people kill people. They use the guns to do it and it becomes a little easier, but still, the number one killing weapon in the world is still considered a hammer, not a rifle, not a pistol. I grabbed something from my AI Bob on CNN today and I'm going to play it for you. This precursor is a. Credit goes to CNN and they're all a prospective branding, but it kind of puts things into perspective of how the timeline goes, and instead of me just talking about it, you're going to hear it from them, and then we'll have a conversation once we're buttoned up on that. So stand by.

Speaker 3:

A sense of relief washed over a grieving main community that endured two days of fear after authorities announced the man accused of killing 18 people at a bowling alley and a restaurant earlier this week was found dead on Friday evening. The body of Robert Card, 40, was discovered near a river some 10 miles from the shattered community of Lewiston with a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Authorities said Card's body was found inside a box trailer sitting in an overflow parking lot of main recycling corporation in Lisbon. Main public safety commissioner Michael Sosciuk, said at a news conference Saturday morning. First row Trisha Asselin, peyton Breweros, tommy Conrad, michael DeLaurier II and Brian McFarlane. Second row Arthur Strout, joseph Walker, joshua Seale, max Hathaway and Ron Moran. Second row Billy Young, aaron Young, steven Bozaya, bob Violette, william Brackett, jason Adam Walker, keith D McNeer and Lucille M Violette. Card had recently been fired from the recycling center. A law enforcement source told CNN Some of those trailers are locked. Some of those trailers aren't. Sosciuk said he was found inside one of those boxes that was unlocked from the outside. Two firearms were found alongside Card's body, sosciuk said, and he was wearing the same sweatshirt seen in surveillance video of the Wednesday night shooting, suggesting he never changed his clothes. It is unclear when he took his own life. Sosciuk said the facility was initially searched and considered clear, but the owner of main recycling directed law enforcement to additional trailers that investigators did not initially realize were part of the same recycling center.

Speaker 3:

The discovery ended a roughly two-day manhunt that left many residents in the serene picturesque area living on edge and fearful to leave their homes. Then Governor Janet Mills said she, like others, was relieved that the manhunt and the fear that came attached to it was over. Like many people, I'm breathing a sigh of relief tonight knowing that Robert Card is no longer a threat to anyone, mills said at a news conference Friday evening. I know there are some people many people who share that sentiment, but I also know that his death might not bring solace to many. This photo released by the Lewiston main police department shows Robert Card, who police have identified as a person of interest in connection to mass shootings in Lewiston, maine on Wednesday, october 25, 2023. Lewiston Maine Police Department via AP. Suspect in Maine's shooting rampage is dead from a parent's self-inflicted gunshot. Authorities say she said the discovery would allow the community to move on and begin a long and difficult road to healing, but we will heal together.

Speaker 3:

The extensive manhunt started Wednesday night after gunshots rang out at just-in-time recreation and later at Schemenjee's Bar and Grill in Lewiston. According to officials, the 18 people killed, whom officials identified Friday, ranged in age from 14 to 76. They included a boy who was bowling with his father, contestants in a cornhole tournament for the deaf and several fathers who leave behind young children. The shooting rampage left 13 others injured. Officials said Five of the injured victims were still hospitalized as of Saturday, three of whom remain in critical condition.

Speaker 3:

The survivor of the massacre, whose cousin, trisha Asselin, was killed in the shooting, was relieved to hear the suspect was found dead, so the community itself can definitely move on without the fear of him out there. She told CNN's Katelyn Collins on Friday night, adding she was sad because we have so many questions left unanswered. Tammy Asselin, who was separated from her 10-year-old daughter as the shooting began at the bowling alley at just-in-time recreation, continued. I know it does give my daughter some peace to know that he has been caught, because that was a fear of hers that he's still out there. Law enforcement officials say Card, a US Army reservist and certified firearms instructor, had extensive training that included land navigation and firearms. He was described as a skilled marksman and one of the best shooters in his unit, by someone who served with him, questions that will not be answered.

Speaker 3:

The wife of one of the people killed in the shootings says she is still processing the fact that the shooter is dead. I have mixed emotions about that. Elizabeth Seale, wife of victim Joshua Seale, told CNN, speaking through an American Sign Language interpreter First and foremost, I wanted him to be apprehended. I wanted to ask questions that will not be answered. Why did you do this? What was the motive? Why would you hurt so many families?

Speaker 3:

At least three of the 18 victims were part of the local death community. According to their families, joshua Seale was the director of interpreting services for the disability advocacy group Pine Tree Society. Elizabeth Seale said she had known her husband since they were both in preschool. While the shooter's suicide leaves her without answers, she also feels relieved. It's important that he was found, she said, and he's gone.

Speaker 3:

Lewiston is a community fighting for its light. Rob Young, whose brother and nephew were killed in the shooting, told CNN this was the ideal outcome and that no answer as to why the shooter did what he did would bring their loved ones back, bill Young, a father who was described as the rock of the family, and his 14-year-old son, aaron, were bowling together when they were both killed. For our family, this is kind of the outcome we wanted, young said it puts a closure for us as a family in a sense where we don't want to have to worry about him hurting anyone else. Tammy Asselin told CNN Friday she wants to know why the gunman targeted the locations and why he fired when children were there. Among other questions she said might never be answered. Now you know, it is just those why questions that unfortunately are left unanswered and we will probably never have those answers to.

Speaker 3:

People across the community. State and country have echoed a sense of relief for those in area after days of uncertainty. President Joe Biden said he is grateful main residents are safe after spending excruciating days hiding in their homes. Biden, in a statement Friday night after the suspect was found dead, said his administration will continue to provide everything that is needed to support the people of Maine. He also reiterated his call to Congress to address gun violence. Americans should not have to live like this, biden said. I once again call on Republicans in Congress to fulfill their obligation to keep the American people safe. Until that day comes. I will continue to do everything in my power to end this gun violence epidemic. The Lewiston community and all Americans deserve nothing less. Here's a timeline of the mass shooting in Maine and the hunt for the suspect.

Speaker 3:

Even before the discovery of Cards body, the Lewiston community showcased its strength. Friday, people trickle onto the streets of downtown Lewiston covered in fall leaves. Amid the lingering sense of uncertainty over Cards whereabouts and alarming messages from authorities to be vigilant, a steady stream of people walked the sidewalks and entered an exited buildings. Several drivers traveled through the area even before the shelter in place order, which authorities enacted early in the manhunt, was lifted early Friday evening, just hours before authorities said Cards body had been found. Someone decorated trees with supportive paper-hearted messages, like to my community and to my neighbors on trees in downtown Lewiston. Several businesses remained closed throughout the afternoon, but some owners, like the Halal Markets serving the area's immigrant community, said they opened their doors for a shortened period Friday due to safety concerns.

Speaker 3:

An emotional Deborah Roy, still grieving from the loss of her 92-year-old mother a few weeks ago, tried to hold back tears as she told CNN she'd been at home for three days before visiting a grocery store earlier Friday in Lisbon, a town 15 minutes away from Lewiston. I just wanted to go for a ride to get away, roy said, a line of customers stretched to the back of the store that afternoon as several other businesses remained closed during the shelter in place order. Roy said she saw people, cars everywhere and cameras while en route to the store. When I came down over that bridge and I saw all the officers, it hit home. Roy said tearfully I'm just blown away to see this happening in our own little town. She said how one person can tip the world upside down. It's devastating. Details about when card died unclear.

Speaker 3:

Just over 48 hours after the manhunt began, authorities found Cards body at 7.45 PM Friday near the Androskogin River in the Lisbon Falls area, some 10 miles from Lewiston, said Sosjuk, the state public safety commissioner. This is a story from the Earlier this week. Authorities had found Card's vehicle abandoned after the shooting near a boat launch in the Lisbon area. Details about when Card died remains to be seen, sostuk said Friday, and authorities haven't announced a motive in the shooting.

Speaker 3:

A key theory about why the bowling alley and the restaurant were targeted emerged during the investigation. Law enforcement sources told CNN Thursday Card recently broke up with a longtime girlfriend, and investigators are pursuing the theory. Card went to the bowling alley and the bar because they were places the couple used to frequent. Law enforcement sources told CNN's John Miller Card also left behind a note to his family. According to Sostuk, it's a note to a loved one and it is saying that this is the passcode for my phone. This is the bank account numbers, sostuk said in the Saturday press conference.

Speaker 3:

I wouldn't describe it as an explicit suicide note, but the tone and tenor was that the individual was not going to be around and wanted to make sure that this loved one had access to this phone. Card's family has been cooperative with investigators and their assistance was critical in identifying the shooter, but they have unfairly received threats due to Card's actions. According to Sostuk, I think the first three people that called us to positively identify this individual based on the photos that were released were family members. Sostuk said that family has taken a great deal of grief to include threats People hanging out at their houses and saying do they know? Is it their fault?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, how's that for a start to the show? Again, the respective branding to CNN, all the people involved in that display. We just converted it into a wave format and here we are talking about it, but unbelievable. So we are 11 minutes into this first segment and I want to give just a slight quick conversation. We're going to pretty much talk about this in the next section, so we can have a commercial break, pay some bills and just have basically a common sense of approach to this.

Speaker 1:

I'm on to point out a couple of things in this complete write up. It's going to end in a great job, of course. It's letter quality and it's beautiful, but we're missing some pretty crucial stuff here. Again, I get it because there's not enough information provided to the authorities. There's not enough going on. What I want you to do is stand by, give yourself a break. I want to break us into sections in case you want to listen to the first part again or, vice versa, the second part. Let's take a break.

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Speaker 1:

Again, a very tragic situation. I told you in the last section that we were going to have the conversation about the whole thing. All the stuff didn't make any sense and of course you have to remember that the you know you hear the whole story and then you look back and say do I hear the whole story? The CNN guy did a pretty good job of pushing everything out there. He's got everything on the table, but there's some, there's some, there's some like way, way stuff here that he had making sense.

Speaker 1:

Now let's start out with the 18 people. How devastating, how devastating is that you can't even begin to, to begin to even have a conversation about how someone would feel. Or you know, you get these dumbass reporters that come up and say you know there's lost their family member. How do you feel about that? You need to shut up. You need to shut up. Don't even do stuff like that. Who does that? They're just doing it to sensationalize this whole thing and they want ratings and, yeah, I get it, but don't, don't on the expense of somebody who just died or a family member of such. How do you feel? Let's stop that. Right now, 18 people lost their lives. This monkey and these it's just 18 people on top of their families, on top of their. But there's more to this thing. I'm not getting it.

Speaker 1:

So this guy is a skilled firearms instructor, trainer. Now, I don't know about you guys, but I I'm pretty strong. A second, second mimic guy and I, I hang around a lot of these people and these people are not left-headed nut wackos. Again, on a normal basis, if someone didn't have mental illness again, there was something wrong here. Very skilled shooter, very number one in his in his platoon, his military training. So this is a guy and I'm going to get to the military training part but this is the guy who just kind of walks in and he snaps one day and and he goes to this bowling alley cornhole thing and he's I'm going to go, I'm going to end some people. Who does that? Who does that? Who normally does that? What's your constant sign of someone going hey, I think this guy's going to do this. Now, these gun laws they got here and in my undisclosed location here in Minnesota, my missile silo, where they they have these laws and these red flag laws we've talked about in the past SF 396, 407, all these laws that are in position and nobody can stop this guy. You take away his guns and it's going to stop this guy. You cannot stop somebody who is bound and determined to do this.

Speaker 1:

Unfortunately, he shot other people before he shot himself. As you heard in the AI, bobby says he ended his life. Well, we could only hope someone ended it for him, but if he did it himself, it results the same. He did this with intent. Now let me get you some intent here. Here's what I listened to, the same thing you listened to. He left his phone for his loved one to find the passcodes, to find his bank accounts, to all this other stuff. So there implies intent. It doesn't even apply. It's plain out. It is intent.

Speaker 1:

He was intending to plan to murder people and I told you I'd come back to this segment. We said why. Authorities don't know why, but we don't. What do you think why? Here is a skilled military shooter. We didn't say what branch of the service it was. They didn't get it and none of that. I tried researching it Couldn't find nothing on this guy, because this guy is locked down tighter than oh, I didn't even know.

Speaker 1:

I mean everything is. He got his lock down. He's got no profiles. He's got, like I would expect, in some kind of an ongoing investigation. So the rest of the world can't see it. But he's there, he's the guy, he's the one that did this. He's on video. They capture him, they see him. His family turns him in. Now, that must have been a tough one. But you know, right is right and wrong is wrong. And this guy on the 18 lives. You got to stop someone like that. Did this guy have some kind of a depression, a depression that was caused by PTSD Can't find that out.

Speaker 1:

I can't find his military record. I've been on all the websites that they boast military records. You know, they just get your in your DD 214s. Everything is all listed as far as public record, but this guy don't have one, or it's been removed. That makes you say, hmm, doesn't it? He goes nuts and 18 people, and we can't find any military record. I can find a military record on anybody alive and dead, as long as they're in print, and this guy's got nothing. This guy's like Casper the ghost, so there's something missing there.

Speaker 1:

That makes me go. Hmm, it should make you go. Hmm, too. And the people in Maine? What are they not getting? What are we not hearing? It's kind of like the left hand one, so if you're shaking, they smack you at the right hand. We're not hearing something or it's disinformation. They'll send something out to you.

Speaker 1:

Know, like the like, a lot of the Democrats, they spend that out there, a lot of that. Republicans do it to everybody, does it? Hey, we're going to sidetrack him here and we're going to make everybody, oh, we're going to do this and wham, you get hit in the back and head with the real story. I guess my point people. What set this guy off? Now, they did say that he just broke up with his girlfriend. Okay, yeah, whatever. A lot of guys break up the girl, a lot of guys get broken up. You don't grab a weapon and go out and start wasting people because they're all broken up. And why this place? What makes him go out out of his way to grab this weapon, to go out and do this? A skilled shooter, a skilled and trainer. He knows what's not right. He's absolutely accurate of what he knows not right. So he's a concealed carry gun trainer.

Speaker 1:

Okay, does your background dictate whether or not you're going to snap? I don't think so. Did the military have some PTSD? I don't know. I just kind of bumped your brakes and go hey, there's an awful lot going on here. You got the bank accounts. Let's see, let's check my notes here. And oh, here we go, biden. Oh, why not?

Speaker 1:

Of course he jumps in because I don't know if Boston's on his thing or not, but here we are, jumps in on the first all out shooting what's this? In his political hat? And says we're going to keep on keeping on. We're going to just keep pushing people to not do this. We're going to. We're going to have oh, geez, you know, as far as this campaign promises, there's a whole lot going on with his crap show over there, ie like shutting down the border. Oh, did you hear that? He just shut the border down? Oh, we have to because they're they're they're coming in, they're going to start. Well, really, you're all lit up at Trump over that and you just do the same exact thing. You close the border. Trump just didn't do it. He had more candor involved. You just hiding it.

Speaker 1:

So, with your campaign promises involved, you're going to end gun violence. You will never end it. You can't end it in the Middle East. You can't end it on our shores. You will not end it anywhere on this planet because you are not the almighty. He's doing it.

Speaker 1:

So, biden, go sleep somewhere. Good to get your own kids out of trouble, get your own kid out of out of a out of a situation. Yeah, we got to show on that. You're going to end it. Let's start with your kid. Hmm, 4473. I think we've discussed that issue. You're going to, you're going to addicted some narcotics, schedule narcotics, and you're doing that. Let's end it.

Speaker 1:

Let's work on your own backyard there at Biden, before you jump into this guy's crap. Blames it, gun control how, how hypocritical is that? Everything your kid didn't do is shoot somebody, but he has a gun. No files charged, no charged files, whatever. Get on backwards. I'm all lit now on that Cause. I'm all upset now because some puke president yeah, let's focus on what we know. Okay, so Biden jumps in. He's all lit up over it. Republicans Okay so if they're really the publicans, if they really did their job, everybody would have a gun. Okay, they're, they're pro to to amendment there.

Speaker 1:

They're the guys who say look, you know, they're the person that can. He's gonna protect you as you and of all these people in this Facility, there wasn't a single dude with even so much as a pea shooter to end this guy or make him rethink this. You know, I got the pictures. You look at the pictures on the website, on hey book, and take a peek at this guy stance. Now, if he's an avid shooter and he's a trainer, his elbows Screen military. Look at his post, it's everywhere. Just Google his name Robert card gunman, hop, jump the picture button on your, on your browser and and look at how he's standing there in the doorway.

Speaker 1:

It isn't just a guy who's branching a weapon. This guy's got some, he's got some skills there and they tell him about the people he's shot. Yet that's something that's making me say, hmm as well, who do you go after? They didn't say about his girlfriend being there. They didn't say nothing about his girlfriend, broke up with them and he's with another guy. Maybe the guy was in that property, you know. Again, left hand's doing something while the right hand smacks you in the back of head and says here's the real story. Hmm, so we went from Biden to blaming to Republicans to act on gun control.

Speaker 1:

Here's another thing I want you to listen to. When you listen to what the CNN AI, bob, says to me, to you, biden says the Americans, citizens, deserve Nothing less. Now, if you've been listening to my show for a while, you have this understanding of deserves and earns. I'm that guy that says if you're the person that says you deserve things in life, that's an entitlement statement all the way. Now, here it is our commander in chief, these ours. Yeah, I suck it up, I know it sucks. Who says to us Deserves? How's that? Sit with you. You earn what you get in life. You don't deserve anything. Nobody deserves nothing. You know, don't guy top me this, believe it not. No Democrat, diehard Democrat. He says you know you don't deserve nothing life, you've earned it.

Speaker 1:

And it's been ringing solace ever since. The guy's still alive, he's still around, he's local, Probably in a different underground facility, not mine. And it rang a lot of truth and it made me think. It still makes me think. I still talk about it to this data Still made this years ago. Earns versus disturb or deserves as a entitlement statement yeah, nobody earns, I'm sorry. Nobody deserves crap. They earn it.

Speaker 1:

And if you were in that building and this guy went out here and he shot this guy, all these people and then these kids, I mean I'm gonna. I'm assuming that there's collateral damage. 18 victims, avid marksman, avid shooter, military trained 18. You can be a slog off the street banging game jewelries and wearing a grill in your face and four pounds of fake gold around your neck and you don't have to be remotely accurate to get 20 people in an area into a bar, into a facility. Look at the shootings in Florida at the, at the, that gay club down there. This guy didn't know crap and he happened to have gotten a lot more. If you do the math right now, here's a guy who's not trained, jumps in ends a lot of people we don't know the story there either and it gets a whole a whole lot more.

Speaker 1:

Well, if anybody's familiar with it with any type of a ballistics, the 223 is not an assault weapon. It is still just a weapon. Lose the verb. It's so. Anything can be assault. A fork can be assault, but the 223, which is a 5.56 NATO around NATO, is the hotter round. It launchesa little bit faster. It's a little bit more robust.

Speaker 1:

It's designed to do what the M1 a1 used to be, or the M1 rifle, which is a 308 NATO. Its original job was to replace that which they brought out in the late 50s, early 60s, just after the Korean War. Korean was still had the M1s and then they shifted to the new platform. It is not a military weapon, it is a military round. It is under 50 Cal, so anybody on the planet who has 21 license or older can actually go in there and purchase this ammo, whether it's the NATO, the Remington 223, the 5.56 223, the multi brand, the multi caliber, your rifle has to be chambered for it.

Speaker 1:

There's a whole lot going on there and the difference between a military weapon and a civilian weapon is two things, and I'm not gonna say automatic, because if you live in Wisconsin, you can own a 223 without special SOT tax, without anything other than you live there, and you can buy yourself a full auto. A lot of states do that and so does not. The only thing that this makes us a military weapon is that the military issued it to the US government issued an M16 M4, m4 a 2, m4 a 1, all those with the forward assists, all with the H bar front. All of these weapons have been designed by, and used and deployed in a military environment. What's the second thing?

Speaker 1:

glad you asked you were a soldier. So a soldier was issued a M16, m14, m4, blah, blah, blah. You were a soldier. That got that issue to you, not just some snot nose off the off the road. It didn't do a conversion into a seer adjustment. You all these things to do to turn it fully out. And wait a minute, wisconsin wasn't that? Oh yeah, yeah Milwaukee kid who guarded himself and he is uncle's restaurant or business or whatever that was. Yeah, what about that kid? Fully automatic. There you can. In Wisconsin he didn't have a fully out of you to semi-automatic.

Speaker 1:

So what are you gonna end, mr Biden? You're gonna end giving M4s out to the military people, because if that's the case, what happened to this guy? He wasn't issued it. By no way am I saying that. But what I am saying is you got to look at the commons. Everything's pretty common now. And at what point can you stop and say we're commonly gonna disable all the weapons? That will never happen. It's a political cue, it's talking points. It's all baloney. You will never stop the guns. You can't, you can not long and and let's look at the sig-tac brace you can outlaw that. You can try it. But it's being contested now and it's unconstitutional and they're already seeing that they're gonna lose that case. Soon as we get the first back Republican president back in there, they're gonna jump all over and say, yeah, let's revisit this. It'll be on some campaign promise somewhere. I hope the Santos takes it runs with it. He's got the best choice of the next Republican president Trump. He just spinning around. They're keeping him busy so he can't campaign. The dams are doing that.

Speaker 1:

Talk about cancel culture at a government level. There it is completely government level and nobody's paying attention to it. Indictments in Georgia. Really, you get 49er states. Who's next? What next state is gonna give them an election tampering? Come on, they didn't even prosecute Nixon this far and Nixon didn't do nearly as weird shit as is a trumped it. There's a whole lot of presidents did some really weird stuff in the day, but hey, here we are today's cancel culture.

Speaker 1:

So I just want you guys to focus, pay attention to what's going on, learn some things. If you're hearing this in other countries, you know I get it, we got the gun, but we don't. They'll have gun problems. So about Afghan right now how was their gun problem doing? I think they need a whole lot of stuff about Ukraine. You guys out there bet you had wish you had more guns now, right, I've had a lot of emails on that. Instant messages, hate book, tick, tock. I get them all and they all say it's the same thing. They have the same thing in common. I wish to be still had the right to bear arms. Hell, the right, isn't it. Our forefathers were in Saddam and the right to bear arms were not for hunting, it was a tyrannical government. That's what it was for Heck of a show. Today. I wanted to say thanks again for all the listeners. I just don't know how crazy this world's getting.

Speaker 1:

I was gonna have some doctors on. I gotta figure out a way to get four doctors on one phone to, I don't know, have this conversation. I've never done an audio panel before I will, and all the doctors have requested to be on. Artists has been on. He loves the show. I love his talking to him. He's just a great guy.

Speaker 1:

All my doctors have been on and they've got some pretty good stuff in there in their bag of tricks. So until I get that figured out, I'm gonna try to do a zoom or something, audio only where I can have them on the main page. But see it, my recording computer is a input output and it is designed to have both at the same time. There's a separator but it still has to get fed back into the main. They call it an IP bus.

Speaker 1:

Why am I telling you this is because I want you to know that I am doing my best to get these four doctors on so we can have some of the questions out there answered and these doctors for different at the same time. Come on, that's pretty good stuff. Have four guys on. Yeah, I'm excited to do it Because I got some. I got some really interesting questions for these guys and gals.

Speaker 1:

So for Headcast, I want you to know. Thank you again and tune in next time. I'll try to get it more frequently now that it's going to be winter around here and my, my blast doors are a little frozen these days, so I put some WD-40 out and getting loosened up because, holy crap, we're in for a cold one this year. Be well, think for yourself and let's hope that we can kind of straighten this mess out. For Huttcast signing off Sayonara and that's a wrap for Huttcast. Huttcast is again a pragmatic approach to seeing things how some people see them. If you like our show, give us a thumbs up on the Facebook site again for Huttcast. Thank you again. Have a wonderful evening, thank you, thank you.

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