Discovering Health Secrets and Justice through Filmmaking with Jonathan Otto

Have you ever pondered the intricate links between justice, natural health, and filmmaking? Our guest for this episode, Jonathan Otto, an investigative journalist and documentary filmmaker, has not only thought about it, but has made it his life's work. Jonathan's journey, from working for organizations like World Vision to his groundbreaking work on the Truth About Cancer and the Truth About Vaccines, is as fascinating as it is inspiring. 

Jonathan's intrigue with the world of natural health and his commitment to justice has led to a plethora of discoveries, particularly around vaccines. His conviction that many diseases today are the result of intentional biological weapons will give you ample food for thought. As we navigate through his research on therapies like nicotine urine therapy and chlorine dioxide, you'll be captivated by their potential for healing. His collaborations with organizations like the Tim Tebow Foundation and his humanitarian work in Northern Kenya serve as testimony to his dedication to making a positive impact.

As Jonathan looks into his personal life, he gives us an insight into the toll his work has taken on him. Finding balance between his commitment to fighting injustice and fulfilling his roles as a husband and father, isn't easy. Yet, his faith continues to guide him through these challenges. As we wrap up, Jonathan shares his research on alternative treatments, and the potential they hold to bring hope and healing to those suffering from various diseases. This episode promises to leave you inspired, better informed, and brimming with hope.

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Secretly recorded from deep inside the bowels of a decommissioned missile silo. We bring you the man, one single man, who wants to bring light to the darkness and dark to the lightness. Although he's not always right, he is always certain. So now, with security protocols in place, the protesters have been forced back behind the barricades and the blast doors are now sealed. Without further delay, let me introduce you to the host of the podcast, Mr Tim Hudner.

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Thank you, sergeant in Arms. You can now take your post. The views and opinions expressed in this program are solely those of the individual and participants. These views and opinions expressed do not represent those of the host or the show. The opinions in this broadcast are not to replace your legal, medical or spiritual professionals. Welcome to Hudcast 11, 19, 2023. We have in our show today Jonathan Otto, an investigative journalist, filmmaker, a guy we want to put some time into. Let's listen to what he's got. So, jonathan, are you with me?

Jonathan: 1:22

I am with you.

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Jonathan: 3:05

I'm with you, Tim.

HUTT: 3:07

Well, thanks for coming on the show. I'm doing a double header today. I just finished up with a previous session and get that edited up and I'll launch out. Most of my drops are at five o'clock on a Sunday and if you want to tune in, we'll get just special links so you can preview it ahead of time. But my first question is can you tell us the journey from investigative journalism to becoming a natural health researcher, documentary filmmaker? That's a lot of title. Tell me how that all works.

Jonathan: 3:36

Sure. Well, my passion has always been to make a difference. That was on my heart when I was young and it continued to evolve and it's really stayed the same. It was always about seeing a need and responding to it. I thought like a really strong calling when I was even as young as like seven years old. It was interesting.

Jonathan: 3:58

I ended up working for the organization that first inspired me about humanitarian aid work, and that was World Vision by the time of 17, so about 10 years later, and it was all about seeing the fact that people suffered due to injustice, and so justice was a strong motivator for me, which has also been a thorn in my flesh as well. People that are in relationships and if you want to kind of operate the relationship under justice, you're going to have a problem so I definitely have had that too and learn how to understand how it all works, how faith works, how mercy and compassion work, but how, unless we're striving for humanity, I don't really see much point in being here. So yeah, and so then I got a degree in journalism and media production and after I graduated I did a postgraduate degree that actually had me in education. So I was teaching because I didn't find any interest in doing journalism on things that were basically like just what I saw already as propaganda, even though I really didn't know like a fraction of what I know now. But it was enough to just say this is not fulfilling. So I want to impact people's lives, so I'm going to become a teacher and get teaching with literature, but then I felt a strong calling back.

Jonathan: 5:08

Through entrepreneurship. I found ways to make projects work and I was traveling from Australia to America and then started really understanding how to get a message out and I started working on projects like the truth about cancer. So I worked as a producer for them for a few years and during that time we worked on the truth about vaccines and I got exposed to information that I couldn't learn. I couldn't unwind that.

Jonathan: 5:33

Once that genie was out of the bottle, then I felt like I had to do something and I couldn't stop and my whole obsession became that actually had a whole people heal and it's all connected. Still, like I'm still doing a lot of work in like Northern Kenya, as an example, and Tim Tebow's Foundation. Who's a woman NFL player? We're just beginning conversations Some of the things that we can't talk about but in regard to anti-trafficking, I really respect what they're doing at the foundation. It's all one common thread to me and that is making a difference and I think that's what we're going to focus on here when it comes to people healing and getting out of disease. And yeah, it's going to be fun.

HUTT: 6:11

So would you say that, what was your big, inspiring decision for the docu-series of vaccines? What do you call it vaccine secrets? Is it in COVID Exactly?

Jonathan: 6:22

Yeah, covid secrets, vaccine secrets. Sure, the inspiration there was simply to make everything that I'd done up until that point count for something.

Jonathan: 6:31

Because if I was silent on that issue and believe me it was a temptation, because I knew that at the time that there was a bit of a cost, or a lot of a cost, socially and even from a business perspective where there were a lot of people that didn't want to kind of go near me, even people that were health educators, but they just didn't want to touch that subject so they were silent on it or they were actually even encouraging their friends and family to get vaccinated, but they often weren't even public about it.

Jonathan: 6:56

But the thing there was that I just felt like this massive compromise by even considering being silent, and then I prayed about it and I talked to my wife and told her that I really felt called, that I had to tackle this head on and I had to be open and real about the fact that I do believe perhaps the majority of diseases that we face today the results of intentional biological weapons that have an accumulative effect on our bodies.

Jonathan: 7:27

And I've got to tell the full story now and I can't hold anything back and kind of that's what that was all about and the whole obsession then. Like you know, vaccine Secrets was close to two years ago now and the missing link there was that at that point I didn't have all the pieces of the puzzle. I had key elements that are still relevant, but it was continuing in that journey of finding the rest of the pieces of the puzzle, and one of them. Frankly, today I'm actually meeting up with Dr Andreas Kalko and he is perhaps the foremost educator on Chlorine Dioxide, and so I'm going to be sharing about why that is so relevant and how that has everything to do with regenerating and reverse and chronic disease and including cancer and certainly COVID and vaccine injuries, and how it has to do with the body's electrical system and how this is a critical component that's being kept from us.

Jonathan: 8:28

But, that's what that was all about.

HUTT: 8:31

So could you share some of the most groundbreaking discoveries you've made through your vacuum series?

Jonathan: 8:38

Sure. So I would say some of the most groundbreaking discoveries that I've made through my docuSeries have been the biological weapon component was the shocker because it was an original conversation that I had with Dr Brian Artist where I said to him this like these heart attacks this reminds me so much of this 1975 Senate hearing where I saw the publicly dis public disclosure of the heart attack gun and it makes me think of that. It makes me think that this, this is the only thing I've ever seen to be able to create a heart attack in an insidious way, because it was an undetected gun that made a heart attack using shellfish venom and he was silent. He said I can't say anything about that because he had discovered that and for me it was. It was a question, so I hadn't done the research yet, and then he then went public on that and then after he released the film Watch the Water, they got like close to somewhere around 10 million views.

Jonathan: 9:48

I started doing like more heavy documentation in various areas of that and he was doing more research and investigation. That was helping him develop his conclusions to a point where some people that dismissed it. Then if they really sat down and looked at it, it became impossible to dismiss and that was the thing for me, because I actually wanted to avoid the subject, to be honest, because it kind of seemed like it would come with a huge fallout again, like it was like that the group kept getting smaller because I was like man I already.

Jonathan: 10:18

I already kind of got kicked out of one group. Now you're gonna get me kicked out of this other group and now the other group and how small is this little thing gonna be?

Jonathan: 10:27

but the thing there was it's, it's still called purity, like, just tell the truth, don't, don't, don't hold back any punches and think you can do good by doing that. Just be real. And so that's what I chose to do. And then, on that basis, what happened to him was that my whole obsession was about how do you help these people get better. Like what is it? Seven billion people potentially somewhere around there, potentially, are being vaccinated. If we don't know how to turn this around, we're screwed.

Jonathan: 10:55

So no wonder I was like obsessed with the subject area and this venom aspect was a critical piece that, unless I saw it through this lens, I would be limited in my approach and I might be able to kind of work out some therapies that would work, but I really wouldn't have much of an understanding of why they were working and it wouldn't alert me to other therapies that I wouldn't have considered.

Jonathan: 11:14

And that's where the nicotine therapy came in, like using nicotine urine therapy came in. These are both anti-venom therapies. I see them work across the board for so many different diseases that aren't even understood typically to be vaccine related or COVID related, and it comes back to a venom aspect and I'm talking about like yambore, basically reversed in a matter of days, when people are like bedridden, hospitalized, can't move their body. I'm talking about cases of I mean, these are the ones I personally witnessed chronic bleeding, like you know, all their kind of vaginal issues they come with, like ovarian pain and bleeding of the uterus, and yeah um, the some of them in regards to shedding, others in regards to people getting the vaccines, heart palpitations that like completely would would classify as semi-chiditis diagnosis.

Jonathan: 12:04

I've seen people basically take a therapy that I've suggested and had heart palpitations previous to that, for two years without a break in any single day. And then the first day they do the therapy they never have a heart palpitation again and and then they're like almost a year out now of you know, I've seen cases like this and so it kind of makes you have a burden to to tell the story and let people know that there is hope, there is healing. Um, yeah, it's that you've got to have the premise right and you've got to understand what you're doing, why you're doing it. Then you'll stay the course because, for example, if you whack a nicotine patch on and then you've got all this kind of religious programming because I mean I'm, I'll sell them.

Jonathan: 12:45

Drink coffee. I don't take any stimulants, I don't um and I don't um. I certainly don't take any drugs and I don't take, I don't drink alcohol. So when I'm saying nicotine, I'm using it for a specific purpose, because it's going to compete for nicotine receptor, the venoms are binding to. So unless you've got a better approach, show me. But if you're getting chronic nausea when you put this patch on I'm not talking about smoking, I'm talking about using it in different formats sure, if you do that exactly and if you do that therapy, then you get nausea. Don't give up, because if you're releasing poisons out of your body, just know what you're doing, why you're doing it, because then then you can stay the course and then bind it as well. Don't let it just circulate in your body. Use a therapy that will help bind that and get that out, like urine therapy, like EDTA, um other binders, chlorine dioxide, so and you know, there's more more to tell, hey, that right, right, so you, you obviously talk to Dr Brian Ardiss.

HUTT: 13:47

Yeah, yeah, he's a good guy, been on the show a couple times, absolutely love his work and awesome. And when I'm hearing you, I'm almost like I'm listening to a mirror. Yeah, you guys are like in total sync right now, sure, yeah yeah, true, so when, when? You go about selecting experts and the doctors for your, for interviews, for your show. How do you do that? I mean, do you just like, hey, how are we gonna tell us that process?

Jonathan: 14:12

yeah, sure, it's kind of I'm looking for missing pieces of a puzzle and like, let's say, for example, dr Ardiss as an example, at to this point in this day I don't think I last time I checked he'd never done urine therapy as an example, so I know that for him in that way he's not going to have that active experience at this point in time, and there's some people that are doing nicotine that aren't getting better. So I'm obviously not just saying his work. He's one of my best friends and he's one of the most respected colleagues and he he probably admit if you just got him on he'd probably be like, yeah, I meant that I, you know, kind of kind of work out how to how to do that. Other people they just kind of go for it and do it and they. The biology makes sense because if you realize that you were born in a womb that was basically filled with urine, was practically only urine, and you were drinking only urine for like between three months and nine months and that's what you were sustained on, that's how you self-healed in the world and that was the original design. And now you're dismissing that and you know one liter of urine has 8.49 kilowatts of energy that would could power a house for eight hours and while we're drinking dead water it doesn't have any kind of real nutrients. Even if you're filtering it, you've got in urine. You've got distilled water with a perfect filtration system which is so perfect babies are born in it so perfect that people will use it for stem cell sources, for regeneration of their needs and all kinds of things there.

Jonathan: 15:42

And then you know, and then people then dismiss this because they don't don't think it works. But so that gives you an idea of like let's say I'll have Dr Ardyshia therapy. That's critical, and then I'll say, okay, now who else is willing to educate or understand or just kind of that's their personal conviction. I don't think that he should kind of fit into any model I think I should put for him. He's called to a certain area, just like Dr Andreas Kalker is called to another area of the corneal dioxide, and that's what he's educating on.

Jonathan: 16:09

Almost it's a solo therapy which I think is great in one essence and in another essence they there is a need for people like me that will basically give people that smallest board of options, because there are many cases where people will use one of these therapies and it's still not getting them out of that chronic state. And there are other cases where they use one single therapy and they'll get out of that chronic state. So that's what causes me to select based on the things that I think work. They obviously there's a, there's an alignment, there's a certain process that I go through where I'm thinking, well, what makes sense, what works? I, if you look at all the different things I'm talking about, even in this there, I'm looking at things that are going to get to the root cause.

Jonathan: 16:49

I'm looking at things that resemble biology. I'm I am looking at things in a theistic way that we were created by God and the, the original design and creation and how God made us does help me navigate that. So I will kind of see that it does make sense that we are supposed to be in the sun enough to like just because of where we came from. That God made us in a way that just to soak in the sun, and the original design he does, he did make us to be eating fresh food. Meat was something that kind of came after like a, a fall. Even though I get it, it's normal people are into it. I, you know, my, my wife still she kind of she modulates a bit and I'm mostly, you know, I'm practically plant-based okay but yeah but so like.

Jonathan: 17:42

So then you can see that part of the driving there is like looking at the original design, but it's not from a dogmatic perspective, it's just saying, okay, well, look, if you had one diet to reverse disease, people would say, sure, well, maybe carnivore diet. But if you put carnivore diet against a raw plant-based diet and you look at the results, I'll give you an example my, my sister-in-law, my wife's sister, she had lupus since the age of nine years old and then she had sorry rheumatoid arthritis since the age of nine years old and she had lupus which she got kind of, um, she'd had it over over a decade. And then in four weeks, on a raw plant-based diet where she was blending about a pound or a pound and a half of christian fruits, vegetables and no cooked food, and in four weeks her markers were as if she'd never had lupus. And I got a medical doctor to go through that. Those documents on camera and just you know, let's look at this and and it was completely true was no hype, involved nothing to sell, because it's just a plant-based diet. So you know, these gives you a bit of a bit of clues there.

Jonathan: 18:40

But, like if somebody's like, yeah, but I don't want to live like that. It's like, okay, no worries. Well, there are a lot of these therapies. They're gonna work fantastic and God always meets where we're at. And you know, I'm not saying that I understand everything, I'm just saying I've kind of there's a lens that I'm understanding the world through that. Everyone understands the world through a lens. So just kind of get clear on that and take some time, meditate or whatever you need to do, pray, get clear on your beliefs, because they'll help navigate your path as to what you think healing should look like for you. And at least you've got conviction. If you've got convictions, you're going to be solid, sure.

HUTT: 19:12

Sure and give us a glimpse of into how your process is of uncovering natural remedies for various health conditions. So, like this year, in one you're talking about. So what was that process?

Jonathan: 19:26

Oh yeah, nice. Yeah, well, you're in. Yeah, so interesting, right? So, firstly, dr Rashid Boutard was a good friend. You know who he is right.

HUTT: 19:36

I have not interviewed him yet, but he's on my list.

Jonathan: 19:39

Well, dr Rashid Boutard, sadly he's passed. I don't know if yeah, does that? Does that ring a bell? Now that I bring that up?

HUTT: 19:48

It does Go ahead.

Jonathan: 19:49

Yeah, yeah. It's just obviously really sad, but because you know you, if he was sitting there on your list, you wanted to interview him. It's sad that we've missed that opportunity. He's not with us here in this life. We'll have to wait till the next to be with him again.

Jonathan: 20:04

But he was a different mentor and he was. He was prominent. You know prominent people that people are like in the media. It's so far like people like Robert F Kennedy junior, like prominent athletes and where, where he's patient, he helped a lot of people with cancer.

Jonathan: 20:19

He had over 120 cancer patients that were 10 years past their stage three or stage four diagnosis and he was, he was a fearless soul and that's what I resonated with about him and I mentioned before that I had some apprehension to kind of put myself out on the front line because of the potential for that safety, anything like just kind of the natural social, especially the social aspects and the potential financial aspects, cause you know, like who wants to have everything shut down and and and kind of be reset by then, on the other hand, who wants to live like you don't say what you think and that like that's hell.

Jonathan: 21:00

So he was, he was the one that always motivated me and gave me that courage to to follow the path that that I was on and and we always had like this affinity and he was, he was just a client soul and I would quiz him frequently and say Russia, like, how do you reverse the vaccine Injury, how do you do it? And then he would say there is no way. I'm like, look, I'm not, I'm not going to air this content, I'm not going to put this out there. Okay, so I never did.

Jonathan: 21:26

I would never air when he would give that answer. So no, it's like, and he kind of saying this matter of fact way. And then one day he called me and he said, well, there, I've got it, I know the answer. No, how to how to do it now? So okay, well, I know that you're not. You're not kind of just give me what I want to hear. You actually go with your conviction. What? What do you think it is? And then he said something that I thought was crazy.

Jonathan: 21:49

That's just what you're getting too excited. You're in. You're in is the answer, because it's got your original DNA and it's it's your original code is, is there in your, in your, in your and it's. It's not a waste product, it actually is a regenerative product in and and and. Then he cited he was Muslim, actually and he cited some Bible verses that I thought my wonder whether that's supposed to be applied there or not, but verses that talked about living water. Out of his own belly will flow rivers of living water revelation. Even though that who knows exactly what that means? It's obviously a very spiritual reference to the abundance of love and connection to God.

Jonathan: 22:29

But but what is living water? And and if there are stem cells in urine, which I'll, which I'll talk about that then that would certainly be the highest affinity to something called living water. And in revelation I don't know is it 21 or 22? It says I, I beheld the river, clear as crystal, proceeding from the throne of God and from the lamb, as it's a river and it was a river of life. And then Proverbs five is an interesting one that says drink water from nine own well, draw water from nine own system.

Jonathan: 23:00

And then Proverbs actually has a lot of references to Egyptian texts as well, which is interesting, and it's it's not the Bible like plagiarizes, it's just that it's it's using a lot of cultural references that I believe completely inspired by God. But when you look at it, judaism and Egyptian culture they both had very strong cultures and histories of urine therapy. And even though the Proverbs five reference was really a reference to adultery in its most applicable understanding, the other, like shadow of the dual potential meaning, was to actually drink water from your own system, meaning that your body is going to code for you unique information that is for you and only for you, and then you see that real time in the womb and it's interesting, it does model also Genesis two, where the baby actually is taking a urine through its nostrils and through its mouth and it's at around the 10 week mark that urine goes through those. Those are our offices and he's creating those are offices and is forming the lungs at that point. And then these stem cells that are actually in the urine, which the Wake Forest University, the Institute of Regenerative Medicine, just proved this last year where they found 140 stem cells in this 24 hour urine sample from a single adult. And then when they let those 140 stem cells sit for three weeks in anti flasks, they found that they proliferated at a rate of one times 10 to the power of eight, which is a hundred million.

Jonathan: 24:34

So they had a hundred million mesenchymal like stem cells, meaning that they resembled a mesenchymal cell, which is an aminotic fluid stem cells, and mesenchymal cell stem cell, which shouldn't be a shock because the aminotic fluid is the urine and you can have mesenchymal stem cells from the bone marrow, but the one that's painless and the one that is through a field trait, which is the urine, is plasma. Ultra field trait, it's a field trait of the body, which means that it's actually purified, sterilized. It's I'm putting forward that it's the safest version, and then it has such a high proliferation for a proliferation rate and it's it's the mesenchymal stem cell. That is that. That it is is what's technically classed as a urine derived stem cell, but it it resembles a mesenchymal stem cell in its doubling time and its immunofenotype.

Jonathan: 25:25

So these are the building blocks of life and it makes sense that they go in the nostrils and the mouth in the 10 week mark and form the lungs. And because it's filled with stem cells and those stem cells are actually what generates the lungs, it's a baby, doesn't produce urine, it dies at the 10 week mark. It's so critical. And so what happens with the stem cell is the stem cell would attach to a genetic blueprint and then it will form what it's instructed to do from that genetic blueprint. That's why I could inject stem cells straight into your knee and even if you didn't have college, because the genetic blueprint of what is supposed to be there is there, that information is there. It will code and match and then grow into that cell, and that's the power of an undifferentiated stem cell.

Jonathan: 26:07

So that's what you have with urine, and so I found it so fascinating. Rashi at that point didn't know that, but he told me the premise and I thought it was crazy, but I just kept thinking about it. I kind of couldn't stop thinking about it. And then I started doing my own research and then I had Dr Ed Group present and Dr Ed Group and I we have a site, urinetherapycom, and that's a project that we're doing together just to educate people for free on that subject. People can download a ton of amazing free books on all the subjects I'm talking about.

Jonathan: 26:37

in regard to that subject, just all their people can download it with no email required or anything. It's our attempt to get this therapy to the 7 billion people that need it right now. But yeah, that gives you a bit of a window into urine therapy and it kind of floats with the idea of why it could be so effective for so many different diseases and processes.

HUTT: 26:57

Sure, sure. And what I've got here is so you're kind of around the lines between my next two questions. I'm going to read them to you and then maybe you can just kind of summarize both of them in one thing, and again you've touched on one of them. So the first question is what motivated you to start the wellness life and develop a doctor formulated natural supplements? And then the second question is could you share some success stories or testimonies from the individuals who you have benefited from your protocols?

Jonathan: 27:25

Awesome, yeah for sure. And so the motivation for well of life, right, so it's like close on the name and the same essence is there, but well of life, which is kind of memorable in the essence, that Jesus referred to himself as the well of life, and so it's kind of a name there that denotes to have a wellspring of life coming out of your own soul and that God, jesus, our creator, is our source of healing. That's kind of what the name is, the story that is being told in the name, and so what motivated that was simply kind of this excitement around what it would feel like to be a part of the winning team, to not only educate people but create products that made such a benefit, so kind of hold these things in tandem, educate people, and that is just so wonderful, because there's a lot of things I'm talking about, like urine therapy you don't have to spend a single penny, and I'm saying it. It may be, in fact, the most powerful substance you can possibly put in your body.

Jonathan: 28:33

If you do your own research on stem cells, I don't know how you could even propose to me that I am in any way incorrect in my sentence or sentiment there, that it is the most powerful substance. So then why would I even do supplements then? The reason why I do supplements is to obstruct barriers and to create a greater purity in the body to help that process, even though I wouldn't say anyone should ever hold back. Because if you have more toxins it's even more of a reason to do urine therapy because it doesn't have toxins. You just do your own research and kind of understand biology. Look at the wound, look at how babies would not survive in the wound without urine.

Jonathan: 29:12

And if the urine was toxic, if that was an elimination method, what would happen is the baby would reinfect itself every time, every three hours, that it's basically urinating and drinking it would compound the toxic levels that are coming actually through the umbilical cord to the toxins there and then it goes through its ears and eyes and the poor baby would just suffer and die and that's what would happen. But the opposite is true. They come out as if they've just been out of beauty so long, for like nine months straight, and their skin is so soft and supple. So there are no. Yeah, so I kind of took a detail there but there are no toxins in urine. But so then why am I saying that? Why would it be amazing to do a supplement, protocol One?

Jonathan: 29:54

A lot of people aren't going to do what I'm saying, but I want them to and a lot of people will and there are certain things that I think that they absolutely need that because it needs your original DNA, all these kinds of things. But supplements like I've seen cases of people you know well before I ever knew about urine therapy reversed the most chronic debilitating conditions and I'll go with some results like Natalia Volosian she was just an incredible case study because she had spent $200,000 five and a half years trying to get better 30 specialists half of those were functional medicine doctors and naturopaths. The other half were major conventional clinics like Cleveland Clinic everybody could help her get better.

Jonathan: 30:38

So after that point, if you're left with still having four autoimmune conditions, which included mycitis, rheumatoid arthritis, hasromotorcyluriditis and vasculitis, that was so severe that the doctors blatantly said to her that in two weeks both your legs were going to have to be amputated unless you take high dose chemo steroids. So she opted in for the steroids and the chemo that was damaging her kidneys, so her kidneys were shrinking. One of her kidneys shrank and she was losing kidney function. And then she said well, what do I do? And they said don't worry, let's put you on dialysis once that happens. So this was going nowhere fast and she had become very suicidal sadly and she had never experienced depression before in her life.

Jonathan: 31:28

And now she could just not stop obsessing about suicide, and this is one of the memories for me of why that was so important. She watched a series I created called Autoimmune Secrets, which is all about getting to the root cause of autoimmune disease. I made that series maybe six years ago and she watched that and then she just thought, well, what the heck? And then she bought like maybe $150 worth of supplements or something. This is just crazy. And then she started taking them. She thought there's no way this could be true, and one of her friends had cancer. She used the protocols and she allegedly recovered and it was quite convincing for her to think about the possibility. But she thought I tried so many things, it's not possible. And that's kind of what happens as well. People get stuck that they think they tried everything. But she said the difference with what you did was that you did things in sequences, whereas everyone else talked about this one certain thing and this other thing and maybe a couple of things, but not all of the things that you talked about and not the sequence you talked about them.

Jonathan: 32:35

And then she started getting better. So much the point where she started taking the supplements into the doctors giving her chemo and steroids and said wow, not, I'm not taking the drugs anymore. And they said it's not possible how your mark is going down because your inflammation levels are so high and markers are so high they couldn't register them at the Cleveland Clinic. They are off our scales, we don't have the reading. And then here she is with their normal range. She says I'm not taking the chemo and steroids and they're like this is not possible. We don't know what could be happening. She says it's this. And then she took all her supplements and she said these very good doctors, she's Estonian, she's very good doctors, very intelligent, by the way, she took when she had to quit her job. You know how many people had to replace her just to replace one position three, three people.

Jonathan: 33:23

She's an engineer and like electrical engineer lecturer, just kind of just quite a genius mind. She said in this story we don't have to be as good as men in order to be equal with them in the workplace. We have to be much better to be even considered to be equal. So like she had this drive to be great and to do well and she was in, like her life was ruined but she turned it all around. She's back to swimming and cycling. She's. Her legs are so beautiful and slim and just kind of what any mid sixties woman would just dream to have. Her body is basically like the perfect body for somebody, in just perfect shape and health and fitness, and just her smile, her vibrancy, a joy for life, is something that I just kind of keep with me every day.

HUTT: 34:12

Well, let me do this. I had to take a commercial break here, jonathan, and when we come back, I'd like to talk about some misconceptions people have about natural remedies. Can you stand by a moment?

Jonathan: 34:23

I'd love to.

HUTT: 34:24

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Jonathan: 35:42

I'm with you, tim.

HUTT: 35:44

Okay, some. What are some of the misconceptions people have about natural medicine and remedies, and how do you balance your role as a filmmaker, researcher and humanitarian in this whole thing you're doing?

Jonathan: 36:00

Yeah, absolutely. Look, man, I happen to be on most of the most controversial treatments, like here's a guy talking about nicotine for healing, like neurological conditions, and referencing studies on Parkinson's and cancer, gliomas, aggressive brain tumors and Tourette syndrome and tinnitus and I can show you studies, public studies on pub med, peer reviewed, that will show you these conditions being largely either halted or being put into remission or showing the signs that they're being reversed systemically through that therapy. And so clearly there's a misconception here, because you just kind of go, it's just the lack of innovation and critical thinking of just saying, yeah, but I think that that is connected to cigarette smoking and that gives you cancer, and instead of saying what's the core substance? Is it possible that? Is it possible that I misunderstood this? Or is it possible that God made a substance that does interact well with the body and there's something that has changed in it? Mankind has changed this, that, that alteration that has been done.

Jonathan: 37:13

In this case, pyrazine was an addictive chemical that was added to it to make it addictive.

Jonathan: 37:18

So now you can explain the addictive nature of that as a Harvard study that backs that up, backs that up, or the 600 chemicals that got added to it for the various purposes, all of which, that, like you can bust a cigarette or tobacco.

Jonathan: 37:33

You've got like 7000, 6000 chemicals, 70 of which are known as cast antigens, and now you're you're basically taking like about a whole bunch of reasons here that are all negative, that aren't connected to the reason and the application.

Jonathan: 37:49

I'm saying to use it for like to put a patch on, to use gum to soak your feet, or to make a tea out of that tobacco, or to simply take an extract from eggplant or tomatoes or potatoes and actually take an eggplant to an extraction to get that nicotine and then to to use it in that form. And so I'm not even saying it has to be from tobacco. I'm saying use something that then binds those alpha seven, nicotine and acetylcholine receptors so that you can get your disease into remission. So that that highlights I'm using a story and an illustration point to show you that the biggest problem here is a lack of innovation and critical thinking and, like I know it all attitude that causes people to stay sick and causes even holistic doctors to miss critical therapies that would save their patients lives. And that's the, that's the travesty of what I'm seeing unfold on a daily basis, with people just not being willing to reconsider everything.

HUTT: 38:47

And how do you balance that?

Jonathan: 38:50

You push back and you say, well, what does the science say? And how do you, can you see proof of this? Do you see real life case studies that validate this finding? Same with chlorine dioxide that's bleach, that's going to be toxic, it's going to be poisonous, but okay, well then show me, let's say what's it going to be toxic to the kidneys, the liver? Okay, then let's see, do your markers go up or down?

Jonathan: 39:12

For, like, kidney function, if you, if you take it, and if you're showing the markers of your kidney function is actually better than normal, and if you see this can consist and repeatable, then you can no longer keep pushing forward that this is going to be damaging to the kidneys. And then, if you're seeing conditions put into remission, if you see that I mean it's, if you see that, like, let's say, if we would say, get water and we're trying to see if a light bulb will light up in it by basically putting the conductors into the water In the case of sugar water, then that's just dead. No light bulb, sorry. And then you've got something like distilled water sadly I'm offended. Distilled water, but you'll see that goes down, no light. And let's say, if you use chlorine dioxide, bright light. So you see that it's conductive, and conducive doesn't mean that like there are some things that will light up a light bulb that will be toxic, but again like that's why I also shared the other elements of that. And then urine absolutely it's distilled and it has, and it has minerals and nutrients, metabolites, technically, and compounds that are incredibly beneficial. Thousands and thousands of them like potentially right around maybe 3000 in a daily urine sample. Certainly there's 5600 documented people can find on urinemetabolomeca.

Jonathan: 40:43

But you basically then you just dig deeper and you reconsider things and you seek to see real life case studies, like there's a book, Martha Christie's, your Own Perfect Medicine. There are so many cases of cancer being put into remission. In fact these are. These are big, like 1948, there's 300 doctors that presented thousands of laboratory studies and hundreds of human case studies of cancer being put into remission over a 12 year period, completely by using the H11 extracts of urine.

Jonathan: 41:13

I believe it was injected to the subcutaneous fat and but it was injections, urine injections, and they presented this in 1948, it was a conference in Europe and it was to the medical boards and it was completely pushed back on and pushed down and that was during the time as well, with urine, was in the Merck manual as a treatment. You saw it as the most studied, documented single medical substance by far is then getting used in every type of medication, from blood clot drugs like your kinase, which also uses the cancer drug, to your urine for ear infections and for eye problems, which is just urine with a letter M in front, synthetic urine. There you see it for skin, for urea, for burns. You see so many applications and yet it's been demonized and urea for cancer. It's just, it's remarkable, and you just got to look at the science and reconsider your perspectives.

HUTT: 42:08

So let's shift to gear. Yeah, tell us more about the awards you received from the Australian government, about your hematary contributions.

Jonathan: 42:19

So when I was in actually like one of them was when I was 17 school, I was my my school principal had nominated me for Young Citizen of the Year and so that was through. It was through the it wasn't a school, what is a government award and that was because I, like at that school, like the teachers and the students, were very aware that I was every year educating people on all the global issues, which is interesting. I now had talked about it because I don't actually talk about this much, but it's kind of it's a real thought to think about how I didn't have a single friend that was interested in that, so is and I don't know. Like part of me thought awkward being like this kid that was talking about stuff that like no one cares about this man, I'd get people behind it and we'd raise a lot of money and that kind of thing, which is cool, but like, none of my close friends really knew much or cared a bunch about that, but it was always kind of just this personal thing that I had. And then I, yeah, I received that award back. I mean that was 2003. And I had, then I'd become an ambassador for World Vision at that same time those things happen independent of each other, but that so that there was clearly a direction in life that I was going in.

Jonathan: 43:42

I think it was that same school teacher, it was the. But this was a thing like when I mentioned the fallout. It was because I was like, in that sense, I did get. I was kind of a naughty kid in earlier grades because, like by like great, great, eight, grade nine and I was seven, I was in the wrong crowd and getting in trouble.

Jonathan: 44:03

I got suspended from school once and they saw a turn happen in my life, just just more purpose and drive, and like I just kind of walked away from those negative influences and then found myself doing, you know, just driven by humanitarian work, which is kind of not usual for a kid, but it is, but it can be usual and that's why I was so passionate about educating children about how to be connected, and so the thing that we worked out there was that if we just connect hey, ashley, I love you, my four-year-old is trying to see me, I'm going to blow you a kiss, big boy my passion there was just continued to fuel me to different things, and so I worked alongside other organizations and worked for them, like World Vision, and I went through places like Mongolia and Papua New Guinea, tanzania, mozambique, kenya.

Jonathan: 45:03

That's a lot of places.

Jonathan: 45:05

Yeah, and some of them I was alone as well, like early 20s. I was 17 when I first went to Tanzania. I was with a group, but there were certain instances where I was alone and, like you, really started to develop your own independence and trust in God. When you're in a situation like that, I'm not recommending it, but I'm saying that that's kind of like what happened to me, which I am grateful for that, because it also taught me that and you have to have your own independent thought If you want to get better, if you want to understand things, or, for me, if I want to be a good journalist, I can't think like in the pack. I've got to completely get good at independent thinking and get good at connecting my own dots so that you can be an innovator. And I'll give you an example.

Jonathan: 45:45

When I was with Dr Richard Oso he was basically chief at MD Anderson medical doctor that was doing research on stem cells and cancer stem cells and how to reeducate a cancer stem cell and back in 1982, and I was just talking to him basically last weekend I was into doing live on camera and so we've got the footage is quite amazing I said, yeah, but look how you got the study wrong based on this element and how this would have worked if you use this. And he said well, that's an interesting hypothesis, it sounds right, it sounds like it would potentially work, but it would be interesting. I guess it's not proven. I said it has been proven already and in this case I'm not necessarily even innovating. But I then took him to a study done in 1966, which was in Atlantic City in New Jersey, that was showing that the two researchers, every time they would put urine it was called directin it was another extract with cancer cells, those cancer cells would align themselves into straight rows, and so this was basically showing that it's actually normal and it's been discovered that a mesenchymal stem cell will attach to a tumor and it shows the signs that it's educating a cancer stem cell of how to differentiate back into a normal healthy cell. And so I showed him these different things. His mind was blown. So anyway, this just gives you an idea. It's like independent thinking. He's certainly the one that's trained in the subject area. I'm the one that is catching up.

Jonathan: 47:16

But innovation and having a great thesis, having a connection of beliefs and God, the fears of things that anchor you to certain things that are true. I believe they are true. I've seen the evidence of those things, so it also proves my faith, which is beautiful. But yeah, and then coming full circle. The other project was I was then doing this work in Mozambique and it was with a famine that broke out in early 2010s, and I went into that fight and I was lobbying the government in Australia with the local politicians saying, look, this is a cause, how to get behind this? And it was one of the local politicians that saw the work I was doing there and she nominated me for international volunteer of the year and I got awarded with that. Yeah, so that's kind of how that all happened. I was just kind of putting my head down doing the work. I didn't apply for any of those things, just for the record.

HUTT: 48:16

They just came out there.

Jonathan: 48:18

Yeah, I did apply for some other film awards and we've won some film awards in various countries and things like that, but this has been something that was just kind of independent, because this work to me, the best things that anyone ever does is the things you do in private. So if I'm talking about that publicly, it's no longer one of the best things I've ever done. The best things I do are the things that only God knows, just for the record.

Jonathan: 48:44

But I will talk about things publicly because, I think that we need to have a culture of how do we give back and recognize causes. And also, if somebody thinks I'm a snake oil salesman because I have a supplement company or because I'm teaching people to drink a urine or something else, they deserve to know another side. They deserve to know that because it doesn't make sense to me that somebody would be showing up that way in life.

Jonathan: 49:07

And if you can go verify the facts or all the things I'm saying are true then look, then just drop the story and just think maybe he is out there to do good, and everyone is. We're all humans here. But what if we're all trying to do good here? So why don't we see the best in each other? And that's what I've committed to do for myself and others.

HUTT: 49:28

Well, I heard you talked to your little boy there. Is that a boy, was it? Yeah, yeah. And it leads me to another question how has becoming a father influenced your work and your priorities?

Jonathan: 49:38

Yeah, awesome, yeah.

Jonathan: 49:40

Well, even there where he was running towards me and I was like, ah, ash, don't come to the point.

Jonathan: 49:44

I was trying to teach him something, in a sense that like so that he can understand a barrier, but then he put his head down and he looked disappointed, and so then I also wanted to make sure that I showed him that he's special, and so I was happy.

Jonathan: 49:59

Then I was okay to interrupt the call and just address him and let him know that I see him and but also trying to help him understand, like how to navigate and be okay with that and know that it's not rejection and so like that's a classic kind of example, in a way of how do I bring him on this journey and not like kind of treat this other work I'm doing and doing what I can to be a part of the healing and the help for the world. How do I bring him on that mission and my two year old on that mission and my wife on that mission? And that's been the greatest challenge. And how do I keep my marriage together as I'm traveling and doing different things? How do I show her that she's a priority? And these are the hardest things, man.

HUTT: 50:49

No, big time, Big time.

Jonathan: 50:51

Yeah, and so I've frequently failed in this area, but I have.

Jonathan: 50:58

But I've also succeeded as well and I've seen that we just actually had our 10 year anniversary.

Jonathan: 51:04

We had more problems than your average, I would say Anyone could say anything, but I'm open about it because I want people to know that God can heal marriages and God can heal breakdowns and God can just bring people together when there's a war. And certainly my wife had gone through a lot of that and some of that was not just to do with the work, but the way that I approach work or the obsessive nature at which I do things and tried to learn as well, and she also had to learn certain things like there was. We were just kind of having to navigate that and we found lots of truth and help and hope and connection to God and being anchored to that deeper motivation, purpose, having something to model, because for me, without faith, I think that it'd be just really hard for me. I know a lot of people like they have various things that they anchor to and that help them, but I think that God shows up regardless of the exact way people understand it.

Jonathan: 52:05

There is that pool, there is that inkling, there is that connection that is like a compass that guides you in life and that comes through conviction and purpose and you know what is right and wrong within your soul.

HUTT: 52:15

And there is that you have to remember now.

Jonathan: 52:17

You go for it. What are you going to say?

HUTT: 52:20

You have to remember that. How does it put? The wicked has no rest and the righteous don't need any.

Jonathan: 52:28

Yeah, that's funny. Is that a problem? That's from the Bible, dude. That's from the Bible.

HUTT: 52:33

Really.

Jonathan: 52:37

I want to see if it is. I think it might be. There's no rest for the wicked, which is in Revelation. I think that might be. You might be augmenting that.

HUTT: 52:47

That's for everything. Yeah, I'm sure.

Jonathan: 52:51

But which would kind of you could denote that there's no rest for the wicked, which would mean that, but that would actually mean that there is rest for the….

HUTT: 53:00

And the righteous don't need any.

Jonathan: 53:02

Well, if that's a verse, I don't think it is, but this would be interesting. The audience can look it up because I'm on the spot here.

HUTT: 53:10

Does.

Jonathan: 53:10

Jonathan know the Bible well enough to know that that's not a verse. That's the question, and so we're about to find out why people Google this.

HUTT: 53:17

Yeah, Google it out. Yeah so my next question is give us a spoiler alert. Is there any upcoming projects or docu-series that you are currently working on or planning? Without giving tip in the hat too far?

Jonathan: 53:33

Oh, yeah, sure, Well, always. So I am meeting with Dr Andreas Kalker and he is doing some amazing research, amazing things at Chlorendoxide. So we're… yeah, so, by the way, yeah, so I mean, are you putting those exact words? So there aren't any verses that say that it's the Isaiah 48, which is there is no piece as God for the wicked, isaiah 58, 21. That is the verse. But what you're saying is like a proverb or something that people like… it's like a saying, right, so kind of, which is interesting. But I would say that the righteous absolutely do need rest. So that's why I'm countering, not just to be witty.

Jonathan: 54:26

It's to say no. I personally believe that the righteous absolutely need rest, and rest is connected to God. It's why it's one of the Ten Commandments to honor this Sabbath and keep it holy and to rest one day a week. There's multiple societies that have tried to break that. The arch-enter-revolution was one, stalin was another, where they changed either to a 10-day week or a five-day week and it just messed everything up. It caused a lot of breakdown in society. So very interesting. But back to that.

Jonathan: 54:58

I would say that the things that are coming up, so Chlorendoxide I am going to be talking more about that and how that is working. I am going to be publishing more on neuro-therapy and how it works and why it works and the studies and the connection to cancer. I am doing a lot now with cancer research because I think that whether it's like repurposed drugs, like Thendendazole, mendendazole, I've, amectin, I do think they do have credibility and they have a purpose there, especially the natural alternatives of the antiparasitics, which may prove to be better as well. So that's a body of work and investigation that I'm kind of on in a way. So urentherapy the proof around the things that have been discovered, especially over the last 100 years that have been published and proving that, inside of new discoveries, like stem cell science, which is really only 15 or so years old our understanding of the stem cells, but then showing how those things come together, and so there's quite a few things here, tim, and I'm excited to be sharing it with my friends.

HUTT: 56:06

So we're getting me 21 minutes here. I want to ask you a closing thought In your opinion, what is the most important message you hope to convey through your Daku series and research?

Jonathan: 56:19

Sure.

Jonathan: 56:20

Well, I think that the most important message that I hope to give is hope, and hope that is based on reality, and I I want people to see that, whatever they're struggling with suffering, there are answers and it makes sense, if you believe that there is a God and that then God loves his children, that he's always created a way, there are solutions that are not expensive or are free.

Jonathan: 56:50

That would literally cost millions of dollars per year, and stem cells in urine would be a classic example of that, because 100 million stem cells would cost at least 15 thousand dollars. And if you could get that in 24 hours by just aging your urine and potentially doing it in the morning, that's just an example. But if you're doing, if you're looking at these kinds of things, then you start seeing hope, and that's why all my documentary series people will see the case studies and the breakthroughs and people heal and then it just brings so much hope and excitement into people's lives that, um, yeah, it's part of the reason why we've had probably like five million people registered to watch our films is, you know, probably somewhere around 100 million views across all that different videos and nice platforms other projects I've worked on, yeah, collectively, absolutely.

HUTT: 57:39

Okay, um, what am I forgetting here? So we got that. That. I'm reading for reviewing my notes here Wonderful closing message. Let's, let's plug this. How do the people get ahold of you? How do they watch you? Tell us the vehicle in which you're best viewed on.

Jonathan: 57:55

Sure, absolutely. So I would say um, definitely um. Looking at, let's say, for example, if people are interested in like, looking into holistic supplements full week, full week acid, by the way, was the key I in A lot of Natalia's journey, her story, her healing to full big acid and we, we do a lot. We've got like some of the best Um that I know of for sure, um, and that's why it works so well, because I mean her legs, we go gangrene. So cellular healing, looking at like nano Particles and how you get into the cell, or pico is smaller picometers or they're very small, but you're looking at therapies that get to to those levels and get inside the cell, get toxins. That well of life Dot com is where we've got like our antiparasitics and toxin binders, um to to help people in their health and healing. So that's well of well of life dot com. And then you've got Our series like a documentary series. Healing genesis Is is one that people can go and watch, which is healing series dot com.

HUTT: 59:02

Okay.

Jonathan: 59:02

Um, that's yeah, so that's healing series dot com and people can go and watch the nine episodes series On, uh, basically healing genesis, which is all about reversing disease. It goes through all the different protocols I talked about in regard to nicotine and urine therapy and other therapies, whether it's like using how to use, let's say, vitamin c or or how to Use other natural protocols to help in healing, how it integrates with other therapies, and that's a nine part documentary series fantastic way to get a hold Me there. And then, obviously, you just look me up on facebook my name and instagram and our tiktok channels have got like close to half a million followers between the two channels, one of them in my name. John, and I are the other one, true health secrets, but, um, you kind of I'll be around.

Jonathan: 59:48

The best way to see all my stuff is to subscribe to the newsletter, which you can do at healing series dot com. When you subscribe, then everything that we're releasing and we release our content. Three, we we invite people to precious so that you know in the physical materials, and that supports our mission. So we can keep doing it, but we continue and we have been doing so to release our content. Three, so people or I know I can access that and enjoy it and use it to help them reverse chronic disease.

HUTT: 1:00:14

Outstanding. What a wonderful interview. Thank you for giving up some of your sunday with your kids. I appreciate it. Jonathan Otto investigative journalist, filmmaker, holistic guy, the guy. So I appreciate you coming in or it's taking your time and uh, I'll let you get back to your Loved ones and anything else you want to add before you bounce.

Jonathan: 1:00:36

It's awesome, man, I'm excited. I think that's fantastic.

HUTT: 1:00:39

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