The Human Side of Healthcare¿ with Gayla Prewitt for Peter Prewitt

When Gayla Prewitt sat by her husband Peter's bedside, navigating the healthcare system became her crucible, the outcome of which she shares with raw candor in our latest episode. Her book, "Vitamin  S-E-E," serves as a beacon of her advocacy journey, revealing the stark realities of intensive care units and the broader healthcare landscape that often seems indifferent to individual suffering. Her narration is a reminder of the strenuous path families tread through medical crisis and the systemic disregard for human life that she's striving to reform.

Throughout our conversation with Gayla, we uncover the moral quandaries and emotional tumult inherent in terminal diagnoses and end-of-life care. The dialogue takes a turn as we scrutinize controversial healthcare protocols that may prematurely end a patient's life, questioning the role of patient dignity and family consent in such grave decisions. Gayla's personal account, alongside others shared, presses us to consider the intricate web of medical ethics, patient rights, and the essence of caregiving, challenging the status quo of decision-making power held by insurance companies and hospital administrators.

The episode culminates with a powerful discussion on the role of faith and personal advocacy in the face of healthcare adversity. Gayla's venture into filmmaking and authorship exemplifies how one can channel grief and frustration into a catalyst for change, inspiring hope for a more empathetic, patient-centered healthcare experience. We share stories of loss and the quest for closure, igniting a call to arms for listeners to assert their rights and the rights of their loved ones in the face of medical adversity.

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Speaker 3: 0:10

Secretly recorded from deep inside the bowels of a decommissioned missile silo. We bring you the man, one single man, who wants to bring light to the darkness and dark to the lightness. Although he's not always right, he is always certain. So now, with security protocols in place, the protesters have been forced back behind the barricades and the blast doors are now sealed. Without further delay, let me introduce you to the host of the podcast, Mr Tim Hudner.

Speaker 2: 0:45

Thank you, sergeant in Arms. You can now take your post. The views and opinions expressed in this program are solely those of the individual and participants. These views and opinions expressed do not represent those of the host or the show. The opinions in this broadcast are not to replace your legal, medical or spiritual professionals. Welcome to podcast 114, 2024. On the phone with us today is Gaila Prumit. She has a book out just released. It's called Vitamin C, with an S-E-E very intuitive. I have partially bound through the book and I tell you what. It's a tough one to put down. So you get a chance to do that. But are you with me today?

Speaker 1: 1:29

Yes, I am. Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 2: 1:31

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Speaker 2: 3:08

Gaila Pruitt has an amazing story to tell. She's got a book out called Vitamin C S-E-E. It's on the bookshelves kind of everywhere. I think. I've seen it on Amazon, I've seen it on. You'll find it. You Googleize it, you know, I'm sure you'll find it. Take some, come eyes on, take a chance, and you know what. It's quite intuitive. So you're with us, are you?

Speaker 1: 3:31

Yes, I am.

Speaker 2: 3:32

Okay, how do you want to start out? Because usually I start out with what you've done. Where are you in the world? But let me start out with you. Tell me what you want to start with.

Speaker 1: 3:46

Well, I think right now the pressing thing is what's going on in our hospitals, and unfortunately I experienced it firsthand and the book is something I never wanted to write. I like writing screenplays, I like doing fun happy feature stories with video, and I would much rather be doing something else and still have my husband, but it's still going on and I think sometimes we don't realize unless we're living it. My husband was not a COVID patient, he had cancer and but all that that happened during COVID, I believe was happening long before COVID. I think COVID put a spotlight on it and I think it's intensified since then. When we talk about the devaluing of human life, especially in the hospital, I see used.

Speaker 2: 4:31

Okay, well, let's back a little it up. So you're, from what part of the country, what coast?

Speaker 1: 4:38

Yes, I grew up in Missouri. My husband was originally from Michigan. He had lived we'd been married 35 years, so he'd been here for you know, for quite a long time.

Speaker 2: 4:49

Well, if he's from Michigan, he's knows, he knows what snow is.

Speaker 1: 4:53

Oh, definitely knows what cold weather is and yeah, so he said he was getting soft cause he got worried and really liked the cold weather here.

Speaker 2: 5:01

And your husband did what for a living?

Speaker 1: 5:04

Well, he was a career fireman for 27 years. He had retired six years earlier and you know most firemen, they have a second job and we still had kids at home, still had kids in college, and so he worked, had his own wood floor business, he laid wood floors. So when he retired, I say that retired- from the fire station.

Speaker 1: 5:26

He kind of did that more full time and so he was doing that. Oh, you know, a week before we ended up in the emergency room. So week or two, yeah, he was a go-getter and that was part of it. He'd not felt well for a while but you know, he just kind of shook it off and we didn't go to the doctor. Really, he had been to the doctor, though his regular doctor, just for checkups, and about a month before, maybe a month and a half before, and they really they didn't say anything. So it happened all pretty quick.

Speaker 2: 5:59

Wow. So here you are slapping a face with your. You're in the emergency room with your husband. What was his name?

Speaker 1: 6:06

Peter.

Speaker 2: 6:07

So Peter is in the emergency room. You're there, you figure it's probably just a cold. All of a sudden it turned into this thing, right?

Speaker 1: 6:14

Well, yeah, we got the diagnosis of they were pretty sure it was acute leukemia, and so, yeah, he ended up, so he was transferred. We were in a smaller hospital, so he was transferred to a larger hospital in another state, and he went through three rounds of chemo, and this went. He was in the hospital for 56 days. His leukemia, though, was in remission, so which we were so grateful to God for and so we came home, was doing treatment with an oncologist here locally outpatient treatment, and. But he got a fever, and anytime you get a fever when you've had cancer treatment, especially leukemia, you're supposed to go to the emergency room. So we, we did that and anyway ended up in the hospital the smaller hospital, I believe got infection there, but we didn't know it at the time.

Speaker 1: 7:06

He wanted to come back home, so we came back home three days later, ended up back in the emergency room, and they transferred him to a different hospital. There's all kinds of things, I guess, with billing and stuff like that. If you've been in a hospital and they I'm just finding this out from medical people that I know, but if you've been in a hospital and you want to return within 30 days, it really deems the hospital. They they have a lot of people do that and so they're not real happy about you coming back if you've left. So he ended up going to a different hospital which was touted as one of the best in the country, especially in our state, and that's when things really went downhill. Wow.

Speaker 2: 7:49

Well, it's not like I have any feelings for the hospital system here other than they were supposed to be working for us and they work for the themselves as hospital companies. Everyone once said to me and that rang all with me and you went to a different area, different hospital, different setup, did you? Did you seek the treatment you needed there?

Speaker 1: 8:09

Well, when we got there, I didn't. We didn't realize he had an infection. He'd had some issues with low blood counts and his oncologist locally had ordered a brand new drug that had never been. It was brand new approved and he didn't have it yet, and so that's why we went. We thought his counts are low. That's why he's weak. Well, when we get there, we find out the next thing has an infection, and so I wanted them to the next next day. You seem like it was not getting any better, and so he'd only been in a hospital two days at this point and I'm asking for complimentary treatments like intravenous vitamin C and albumin, and these are things he'd had before and I really think I knew we'd done for years a lot of holistic alternative medicine. But I know how hospitals and doctors I call it the corporate American medical machine are going to be yeah, are going to be about those things.

Speaker 1: 9:05

So I really felt the prompting of the Holy Spirit to ask for that intravenous vitamin C because I knew what their reaction would be. But he had had this and it had helped him and I had records and the first doctor that I asked he said, well, I don't have a problem with it. And then he looked at the PA standing next to him he goes unless the hospital restricts it. So obviously they refused.

Speaker 2: 9:29

Oh, yeah, they refused. Of course it did.

Speaker 1: 9:31

He came and told me oh yeah, the pharmacy says you cannot have it until septic shock. We restrict it until septic shock. And I just looked at him and I said how would you feel if this is was your wife laying here? Wouldn't you want to do everything? Right, you're going to wait until it's too late, because septic shock is very, very, very serious.

Speaker 2: 9:52

Looks pretty real.

Speaker 1: 9:54

Yeah, and he just looked at me and he said, well, I'll make some phone calls, but I beg for it every day for every doctor that walked in that room for five days and they all refused. They also refused a substance called albumin and he had had that before and after. When I get all his records. This is another thing. In the hospitals Back over I was allowed to stay with him but I didn't know half the time all the things they were doing to him. And then the other hospitals, they were very, pretty much straightforward.

Speaker 1: 10:25

In this one they just did things and I had no idea until I got his records, all the drugs they were giving him and I had told them how sensitive and it was in his records about not to give him certain narcotics and stuff. They had tried to give it to him for nausea in the other hospital and they had just wiped him out and they were. It's just, yeah, the things I learned afterward. It's just, it's appalling and it's that's the hard part to deal with because they refused. Sepsis kills 350,000 people in this country, according to CDC, and 30 to 40% of the time their treatments don't work. So to me, if you know that and somebody's asking for something complimentary, which very knowledgeable doctors not me have come up with protocols that intervenious vitamin C can help this. Why wouldn't you do it?

Speaker 1: 11:16

But they refused over and over and over again.

Speaker 2: 11:19

It's your state of right to try state.

Speaker 1: 11:22

Well, you know that's funny, you brought that up I. After the five days they finally did give him a smaller dosage of intervenious vitamin C. This is after, unknown to me. They've listed him as terminal and the DNR. They said, well, okay, we can try, but they gave him a very small dose and so the next day he's not getting better and so I'm like you need to give him a much larger dose. And I use that very word, words right to try. And the nurse looked at me. She said that just gives you the right to ask.

Speaker 2: 11:55

Oh, not, according to the state's appellant court.

Speaker 1: 11:59

So anyway and this is another thing they wouldn't give him the vitamin C. I had records. I showed them how they did help them, the albumin. I had records about that. I said, check his records, check his records and they would say, well, the data doesn't support it. And I'm like he's not data, he's an individual and they would just look at me. So after he's, then I said, okay, if you're not going to give him the vitamin C, what else? What other tools in the toolbox do you have?

Speaker 1: 12:30

So after he's been in there five days, they finally call in the infectious disease doctors. So 36 hours later his infection is gone. I also found out from the transferring hospital. They had blood culture results which would have shown the antibiotic that would have worked on his infection. They faxed them to that hospital.

Speaker 1: 12:52

According to their records there's no mention of it in the in the larger hospitals records. They never mentioned it. They were giving him the wrong antibiotics. They wouldn't consult with my husband's oncologist. My husband's oncologist repeated me say please give him my cell phone number. They can call me. I wrote it up on a board. I would ask him and I would ask him has anybody called you? No, so after he's in there for a week his infection is cleared and I'm like, okay, he just needs to get stronger. Well, I didn't realize at the time what they were doing. They had started giving him massive doses of fentanyl. I had an ER doctor that had left practice. She read my book and she was looking at his records and she's like, oh, they started palliative care. And I'm like I don't even know what that means. Well, I look it up and it can mean different things, but a lot of times it means they just drug people until they're not here.

Speaker 2: 13:52

End of life easement yeah.

Speaker 1: 13:53

Yes.

Speaker 1: 13:55

So I don't know. I don't know why he looks like that. I mean, now I read he had classic symptoms of a fentanyl overdose and, yes, he had been sick and so a lot of the things, though, with fentanyl scurvy and we can get into that too. There's a lot of research about how people in hospitals, when they're so sick like that a lot of them, I think 40% of them have levels of scurvy if they test them, because your body uses it all up and we don't make it. I think we're the only us and some primates and guinea pigs are the only animals that do not make vitamin C. So anyway, they were giving him these massive doses of fentanyl.

Speaker 1: 14:39

And so Monday morning a new doctor walks in and had never seen him before and that's what he says I've never met your husband, I've never seen your husband before. Tell me about him. So I perceive. I think he's going to come up with a new plan because Peter's infection is gone. His leukemia is in remission, as indicated from bone marrow biopsy just two weeks before. The only reason they accepted him at this hospital is because he was a candidate for a bone marrow transplant. You don't accept people that are terminal for a bone marrow transplant. They have to be. There has to be hope that they will recover. So, anyway, I start telling him about Peter and his medical history. And then I tell him about Peter the man, so I want him to, and I show him his picture on my phone and he looks at me, goes well, it's time you do something for him. It's time you give him comfort care. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 15:34

And the nurse next to him stands there and she says we can be very aggressive with the adavant and the morphine.

Speaker 2: 15:41

Thank you what. What are you supposed to say to that?

Speaker 1: 15:44

Well I did. I said uh-uh, it's not up to you, it's not up to me, it's up to God. And they just stared at me. So they knew. They didn't say, like, what do you mean by that? They knew what they were proposing.

Speaker 1: 15:59

And so I had another incident that weekend where I found the registered nurse in the middle of the night was over by his IV pump. This was the weekend before he died on Monday and this is like 24 hours after they cleared his infection. I mean, it's just like they just they were done with him. And so I saw the RN over there and I said, and I noticed he was doing something on the pump, and then I watched Peter's blood pressure just plummet and I'm like, what are you doing? And he goes I'm turning down his blood pressure medicine. And you know, when you have septic, because it went into septic shock, because they did not give him the right antibiotics and they refuse any complimentary treatments that I asked for, and that's one of the dangers your blood pressure gets horribly, terribly low. Well, fentanyl can do that as well. But anyway, and I said, why are you doing that? Turn it back up. And he looked at me. He said because they say we're just prolonging the inevitable.

Speaker 2: 16:58

The inevitable. So in their mind, they've checked out.

Speaker 1: 17:01

Oh yeah. Well, they wrote terminal on his chart which I didn't know. I don't think the doctor should ever be allowed to write terminal on a chart. I had a person tell me well, that's not what killed him. I said that's not necessarily true, because they get a mindset that they're done with you and then they up all these drugs. And here they didn't feed Peter five days before he died Nothing. He had a feeding tube and they gave him nothing. And I asked them why aren't you feeding? Oh, it's because the medicines will. Will bring that in when we can, and they never did. I don't understand. I write in my book Can you imagine if I had kept Peter home, I didn't give him any medicines to fight his infection, denied him food and water, I imagine I would have been charged with murder, at least manslaughter. And in America we call this health care and I think someday we'll call it barbaric.

Speaker 2: 17:55

Yes, I happen to agree with you on that 100%.

Speaker 1: 18:01

When, when they kept refusing the vitamin C, and the doctor told me the data and I said, okay, I'm thinking, well, how can I get them to do this? And this is before I had all this research and knew all this, because my husband got diagnosed with acute leukemia at the end of May of 2022. By August 22nd 2022, he was gone and so there wasn't a lot of time. But I mean, at the time, before we went to this third hospital, we had hope. I mean, his leukemia was in remission, where we're going to strengthen him and we're working with oncologists, we're going to do complimentary things with the vitamin C. But so I asked him, I said the doctor, and he, when he refused, I said okay, well, if you won't give it to him, we'll at least test his vitamin C level. He goes no, it won't do any good, it won't make any difference.

Speaker 2: 18:50

And so we had a hospital situation where you're requesting or demanding that they do something, and they decided not to.

Speaker 1: 18:59

Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2: 19:01

And go ahead.

Speaker 1: 19:04

Oh, I'm sorry, I'm talking to life here. I had an ER doctor after reading the book and she talks about how used to, when they were trained, you would do the right thing, which meant you would do whatever you could Like. It was your family member and the ER doctor says they're not seeing that anymore. This person's been in practice for many, many years and it's causing the doctors who do care a lot of duress because the standard of care is not what it should be and that's what they go by. Standard of care, and it not necessarily is that a good care, is just what everybody does and if everybody's doing the wrong thing, that's still okay because that's what everybody does.

Speaker 2: 19:48

Are you familiar with Ken McCarthy?

Speaker 1: 19:51

I'm sorry. What now?

Speaker 2: 19:51

Are you familiar with Ken McCarthy? Yes, actually.

Speaker 1: 19:55

Yes, I have his book. I have not read it yet. What the nurses saw.

Speaker 2: 20:00

Uh-huh yes. Okay see where I'm going with this the company of the doctors. What you're telling me is that a company, an organization, a company that's designed to profit has decided your husband's faith, not the doctors.

Speaker 1: 20:17

Yeah, exactly yes, because I had one of the doctors this is what, and I write this in my book too I was, you know the right to try thing. I kept saying please just give him, I'll sign whatever papers, whatever you need me to sign. I had power of attorney as well and I said I will sign whatever papers because I kept saying we can't do that, we can't do that, and about the extra, the higher dose vitamin C. And so the nurse practitioner came back and said that he wasn't very old he looked very young to me but he was a doctor there and she said she came back and I had never seen him before either. He was a weekend doctor and she said he said he can't do it, he'll lose his license.

Speaker 1: 20:59

And I'm like I find it really troubling that we have a medical system that it's okay to push these narcotics that they know have the potential to kill somebody, but yet somebody can't give you a complimentary treatment that might save your life. I've uncovered a study that 39% of doctors admit giving drugs to hasten death. This is the mentality we have anymore, that, oh, it's okay to end suffering, we don't know if people are going to be living or not, and this is a different situation. I think the morality of those situations are also something we need to look at, but these are people that have acute illnesses. This has happened repeatedly, not just to my husband. I'm a member of a group that I listen to, sometimes on Monday nights, and it's called former feds. If anybody's been through a COVID experience, you might want to check them out.

Speaker 2: 21:52

Former feds FEDS.

Speaker 1: 21:55

Yes, and I believe it was started by an attorney who used to work for the federal government. He did not like what was happening and they're trying to help all these victims. They call themselves victims because they believe their people were killed by the COVID protocols and they were also. A lot of them were asking for complimentary treatments and, unlike my husband, they weren't allowed a lot of the times even to be with their loved one. They died alone.

Speaker 2: 22:20

Yes, we have that in our family we had that.

Speaker 1: 22:22

Yes, I mean, and they've refused from Dizavir. I've seen pictures where they had even written on there do not vent and do not give them Dizavir. And they did it anyway. So I think where my husband's story is a little different, obviously he wasn't a COVID patient. They did write COVID in his billing codes, though I found that kind of interesting which his visit had nothing to do with COVID and this happened after the height of the pandemic and I think some people think, oh, that was just because people were pushed, you know, to the limits, and but no, I think it put a spotlight on it and, like you were mentioning about Ken McCarthy and a lot of these nurses and doctors have left the hospitals.

Speaker 1: 23:05

But Weinstein, I don't know if you're familiar with him, he's a biologist and him and his wife, I believe, started a podcast, I believe, called Dark Horse and they talk about things from a very science, you know, which. They can do that because they're biologists. And I watched an interview with him the other day and he made an interesting comment and he was saying he goes. You know, they didn't realize when they started attacking us, people you know that were speaking out, that they were creating this dream team because they forced us out of the institutions. And I'm thinking, yes, that's true, but yes, they forced the people, the independent thinkers, the people that would speak up, a lot of them are gone from the hospitals because, if nothing else, if they refused this shot, they were made to leave. So who?

Speaker 1: 23:50

have left in these hospitals. But, yes, people are people who don't think outside the box and I'm not saying everyone, but the majority of them. And you know we don't have free medical care in our country. I do not believe we have a thing called Certificate of Need and I don't know if you'd ever heard of it. I hadn't. 35, yes, 35 states in Washington DC have these Certificate of Need laws and the reason I found out about it. There were some doctors in my state that wanted to open a hospital that wanted to do open care with complimentary treatments. They had the building, they had the finances, they wanted to open a hospital. The state refused because of Certificate of Need and basically the way it works. I may be oversimplifying it, but this is the way I understand it that in order to open a new hospital in a state that has Certificate of Need laws, you have to get the permission of all the other hospitals to say, yes, we do need another hospital.

Speaker 2: 24:53

How likely is that?

Speaker 1: 24:55

Well, yes, exactly. I mean I like it in my book, like, say, you want to open a donut shop in your town and the city goes well, we have to ask all the other donut shops if your donut shops needed. You know that's not going to happen.

Speaker 2: 25:09

Ask your competition if it's okay. How is that free trade?

Speaker 1: 25:14

It's not. That's what I'm saying we do not have. And then I'm discovering which you may have known about and I'm not an expert on it but a lot of these hospitals require doctors to sign non-compete clauses. So if they don't like what's happening in that hospital, they can't go, leave there and practice in a hospital that's in the same area. So if you're a doctor, you've went to school and you have all these bills, you have a family. So if you don't like what's happening in a hospital and you make too much trouble and they fire you or you decide to leave, you basically are probably going to have to uproot your whole family and move at least three hours away.

Speaker 1: 25:56

Two, three hours away and so, yes, and so we're not giving even the good doctors that want to do differently. We're not giving them freedom either, and that's why the certificate of need to me is one of the things I'm fighting for is to repeal of that, because if you can give good doctors that do care a way to have their own place, then maybe we'd have less of what's going on in the hospital. Obviously, the best thing is to stay out of the hospital, but sometimes you can't help it. You have to go there.

Speaker 2: 26:27

Well, let's pump the brakes about here, because we're about 24 minutes into it. We've got to take and pay some bills and when we come back, I'm going to have a discussion about what is the idealistic hospital. Well, how do you start out? How do you do that? So, can you stand by? Sure, okay, fredcast, we're going to take a quick break. Come back and then we're going to have that little conversation. Stand by. Welcome back to Fcast On the phone.

Speaker 2: 27:35

Today, gaila Pruitt Pruitt has gone through an event not COVID, but still about the healthcare system, and when we left off in the other segment, segment number one, we were going to come back and talk about what is the idealistic hospital to you and when they work for the company again, which is a thing I've adopted that term and hospitals are supposed to be. In the beginning they were, as what I heard is, they were a volunteer system, and you can't start your own without this certificate of need, which is I'm going to dig into that. So don't worry about that, gaila. What do you see as the right channel here if you were to be a hospital administrator?

Speaker 1: 28:19

Well, I do think I have a plan. I call the Peter Pruitt Medical Free Will Restoration Plan, and I have nine points, and I believe that would be a great start to making our healthcare system more responsive to the patients and hopefully help save lives. I do want to say the reason I speak out is not just to I feel like God can make something good out of something horrible, and I know a lot of the things I say may sound fantastical, but I saw them, I lived it, and so there's a quote in my book too about from Eric Bonhoeffer, and once you've seen something, if you do not speak out, you know being quiet is as bad as, almost as the people doing it. Exactly. One of the first things that I've already mentioned was getting rid of the certificate of need laws and, like I said earlier, we have 35 states have these laws and Washington DC in some form. Next, restore patient rights. I mean to me those are go together and it's like when you, when you're in the hospital, you don't have rights anymore as a patient or their family member. It's you have no say, and if you say too much, you're afraid. Then either they'll make you leave or they won't treat your patient correctly.

Speaker 1: 29:39

I think hospitalists should consult with primary care physicians. They don't know your person, like somebody who's had their care, and they're not made to do that and a lot of times they choose not to. Some of them do, but they don't have to. I have number four required toxicology testing to monitor fentanyl and other narcotics. I was shocked. I'm thinking okay, if you're giving somebody drugs in a hospital, they do all kinds of blood work that you're monitoring how much is in their system, that you're not giving them too much. And I've had many medical professionals say, no, they don't do that, so no, yes, so that might be something to check out. That's what I'm finding and, like I said, I'm not a medical professional but just as a common sense thing, I'm like what makes them any different than a drug dealer on the street from?

Speaker 2: 30:32

a highly paid drug dealer on your block.

Speaker 1: 30:37

Yes. So number five test functional vitamin C levels. Some of the research I have in the book it talks about so many people. When you're critically ill or even ill, your vitamin C level really drops down. There's a book by Thomas Levy that talks about vitamin C. This is like stuff from the 40s and 50s and it's very highly researched, which I didn't know about until Peter was already gone.

Speaker 2: 31:03

So nothing new. Been around a long time.

Speaker 1: 31:06

Yes, exactly, and studies that show animals when they're sick, their vitamin C levels go up because their bodies start making more. Well, we can't do that, so ours dropped because we need it. So make CAM doctors, which are complementary and alternative medicine, standard care in the hospital so they could be working with the other physicians.

Speaker 2: 31:31

Right, a collective group. So not just their company doctors, because they're not our doctors, they're theirs.

Speaker 1: 31:38

Right.

Speaker 2: 31:39

And now we bring in our own and they don't like the competition.

Speaker 1: 31:41

Yes, exactly, and it would be knowledgeable about these complementary treatments like intervenious vitamin C and albumin really isn't shouldn't have been considered alternative. He had that in other hospitals and this is a natural substance that your body needs and it's supposed to make it. But when you're sick and substance I've learned now is another thing that could have majorly improved his outcome and his levels when I got his records, I couldn't get on his patient portal either. When I got his records, I'm asking for albumin. And when I got his records, oh, my goodness, his was critically, critically low and they still can refuse to give it to me, to him.

Speaker 1: 32:21

So, number seven I had let doctors be doctors. Let them think outside the box. I read an article from Epic Times and Obamacare has a lot to do with this, I do believe, and it basically, once again, I'm probably oversimplifying it, but when you have a diagnosis, you have a code, and when you have these codes, these are the things you do. So it's not like the doctors really even think about it anymore, it's just oh, they have these codes, I do this thing, and people are individuals. Our bodies all work differently.

Speaker 2: 32:53

Yes.

Speaker 1: 32:53

And yeah so, and then I had established a nurses council within the hospitals, because we did have not in the last hospital, but in the other hospitals Mostly we had very caring nurses and sometimes the doctors would listen to them and sometimes they would not. Now, one of the incidents we had happened and which I think led to his infection there's these little disinfected caps and he had a it's called a pick line, which, yes, and so it went directly to his heart. It's like a giant IV, I guess, if you want, but it had three different ports on it.

Speaker 2: 33:29

An expressway for chemicals.

Speaker 1: 33:31

Yes, and so you have to be very careful because, yes, it goes directly to your heart. Well, in the second hospital I noticed they weren't putting these little disinfected caps on and they had done that in the first hospital and, and I asked one of the nurses, I said why she said they won't buy them for us. We have asked for them and they won't buy them for us. And so I kept asking, kept asking, and finally one of the nurses got them to order them from my husband. But this had been days and that probably sat in.

Speaker 2: 33:59

It was too late.

Speaker 1: 34:00

Yes, and so and I talk about that in my book too so the nurses wanted these things, but the administration, the money, people, and these are like 40 cent caps, I mean, of all the things, and and I have research in my book too that talks about that standard of care it's been that way for 10 years and they didn't have them. And then this is a big one and I don't know what the answers are, but we need to take the health care decisions out of insurance companies.

Speaker 2: 34:28

Yes, the hospital administrators yes.

Speaker 1: 34:32

Because that should never happen. We shouldn't be told what hospital we have to go to because of this insurance or that, and then when we get in there, hospital administrators should have no say about the care plan or whatever you have. But they do. Oh, certainly.

Speaker 2: 34:47

And they dictate and they bully.

Speaker 1: 34:49

Yes, and they threaten and they posture.

Speaker 2: 34:54

all these things these companies do, and again, hospital company. I'm pointing that phrase. Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1: 35:01

So what's?

Speaker 2: 35:01

the difference? What is the difference?

Speaker 1: 35:02

between you and the hospital.

Speaker 2: 35:07

You taking Peter to St Something's Medical Center or taking him to a tire shop and saying do this, because if you're going to let the company make the decisions, mind you, you have to take into account one has a medical background, one has a tire background, right, you're still letting someone who's looking at the numbers control your outcome.

Speaker 1: 35:28

Exactly and, like I said, it's not even like they really look at you. They just look at these codes and this is what we do for these codes protocol, you know, protocol, and it's nothing. They're not allowed to think differently. If they do, they buck the system. I think a lot of them left there don't care to think differently. I'm sure there's still some that are there that do, but I think most of them they're just there for a paycheck and they've desensitized themselves that they're not even people anymore. I mean the way they, the way they would. I had a doctor blurred out right in front of my son and this is the first time I'd heard any of that and he's like, oh, he's likely not to survive this right. Just blurt it out and so you have.

Speaker 2: 36:15

Dr House telling you things already.

Speaker 1: 36:18

Dr, House.

Speaker 2: 36:18

He's a TV show star, Well. I'm like Gregory Gregory something and he says the most obtruse things even though he's accurate and he's right. But you got to have some bedside matters, some, some compassion.

Speaker 1: 36:32

Yes, and this was when he hadn't, and there was Monday morning, we'd got in there Friday, late Friday night, monday morning, when I'm still banking for this intravenous vitamin C, they they're telling me oh, we treat infections like this all the time, it's no big deal. And I said, even with that an immune system, because basically the chemo and wiped out my husband's immune system, they go. Oh yeah, we have no, no problem with that. Antibiotics are not dependent upon an immune system. I mean, they're saying this while they're I'm not asking them to stop any of the treatments that they're doing. I wanted them to add things to strengthen him. So by Wednesday this is Monday morning by Wednesday, that same doctor is saying, oh, I'm worried, he doesn't have an immune system.

Speaker 1: 37:20

And they're still, yes, and they're still refusing the intravenous vitamin C. And then that's when I asked him. I said well then, what are the tools on the toolbox do you have? And he goes. Well, I called in the infectious disease doctors and I'm thinking you hadn't already done that. So see, I wasn't really informed on anything. The doctors anymore they stand out in the hallway. I didn't know for days. I'm like where are they at? They stand out there in a little team. They don't even come in this big team, so they don't even see these people. Now, eventually somebody will come in, but this big huge thing I mean, this is a teaching hospital, so I don't know if that's part of it. But I'm like you don't even know these people. All you know is what you see on the computer.

Speaker 2: 38:01

Right. Who is he on paper to you?

Speaker 1: 38:04

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2: 38:06

If you were to tell my people, my listeners worldwide, what is the first number one thing you would do to when you're in that position, would you? Would you passively sit back and let them guide you, or would you stand up, jump up and down and start kicking someone's behind?

Speaker 1: 38:24

You need help and there's a really there's really good organizations out there. One of them is called great care, calm, and it was started by an Ariane who used to work in ICU and she saw what was happening and she's an advocate and she has other advocates and you need help. I was told, well, there's an advocate in the hospital. So I contacted them and they made it sound like oh yeah, if you need anything, you don't like something, contact us, and so I did. Well, they work for the hospital right, we're only gonna do so much.

Speaker 1: 38:55

Yes, exactly, and I didn't know about great care and we had so little time. But it's even better to contact like a nurse at there's. There's getting to be more and more and that's sad to me. That is a Testament to what's happened to medicine if you have to hire somebody To stand up for you that knows what's going on.

Speaker 2: 39:16

Yeah right, you're gonna hire someone to watch someone you hire to help you yes, exactly, but great cares a good place.

Speaker 1: 39:23

I know there's other ones. I think former feds might have some connections, I'm not sure. Frontline critical care alliance is another good organization, and dr Paul Merrick is the one who came up with the Sepsis protocol, and there's other protocols on their side. I have all these listed on my website too and what is the website's name? It's gala Pruitt calm and it's P-r-e-w-i-t-t, so gala Pruitt calm. And if they click on the link at the top that says vitamin C, then I have all that information there.

Speaker 2: 39:58

So another link for the listeners to say hey, you know, we talked a lot about this on the show. We, we've done a cove, we have a pretty wide plethora of conversations. But if this strikes a nerve with you people out there, you got to plug in, you got to jump up and down. You know, get a figure to yourself if. If he's not coming out of this, at least he's gonna go out fighting.

Speaker 1: 40:19

Exactly and they have success stories. You know a lot of these nurses have success stories when people they've told them they're gonna die and they sometimes have to get them out of that hospital into another one and then they're home now with their families.

Speaker 2: 40:32

So isn't that something? Yeah, so fight, fight, fight. Be your own advocate, hire a company, don't, don't be cheap, get out there. And because what good is your money if you're not here to do, to use it?

Speaker 1: 40:46

Exactly, and I had I known about them. I discovered her after Peter was gone. Had I known about them, I would have called them, but I didn't know about them.

Speaker 1: 40:55

So, that's one of the things I speak out about. I want people to know there are people now to help you. So please get help, and it's best if you could get help to find doctors that will give you treatments. Maybe that might help you to keep you out of the hospital, and they can do that too. But if you get in up in a place and they're not listening to you, please, please, please, reach out. The sooner the better.

Speaker 2: 41:17

Now if we, if we shift gears here a little bit, I don't keep it that to do them and gloom here, but it's your story is so compelling. You've made remarkable how to say achievements in the video world, the, the. You've been on the Branson. Oh well, how do we start that conversation? Because I'm looking at your bio going, your filmmaker.

Speaker 1: 41:40

Well, and most of all, my projects, and I feel like that's still what they're for life, because and Peter was such a supporter of all my crazy things, it was so sweet. But I have a book called and a film Script called seed police and that's about health of your food and the Government takeover or corporation more likely takeover of your food, and obviously it said it was set in the future. I wrote it like ten years ago and it's not so futuristic anymore, unfortunately, but I mean it's fiction but it's based on research. And then I have a, a story.

Speaker 1: 42:17

I it's glimmer and it's a thriller and it it's about the, the sanctity of life, and so and I feel like all these kind of have the same thing they're about preserving life, the life that God gave us. We're here to do his mission that he laid out for us, and and obviously we live in a broken world and things aren't going to be perfect, but he has a plan for us, I believe, and these things to me are keeping us from Living out, maybe are the plan to its fullest. Our kids had some health issues and that's when I started researching all the food and I was just shocked and this was years ago and I didn't realize. And now it's just been taken even further with the mRNA and all that right.

Speaker 1: 43:03

But so it was. The same thing that I'm trying to do now is Well, those were entertaining and hopefully, and then fiction. But hopefully it was to get a message out and I used to be a news reporter and I looked at that at that time as a Calling that was right out of college many years ago, because I felt like if people had accurate information and You're telling both sides of the story, they can make up their own mind. Well, that's kind of went out the window. Yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker 1: 43:30

Yeah, so all these things I look at is a calling, and, and what better way to get people Interested in to start researching something? Then, through a creative story, through a film, I mean, we really, you know, film can have an impact and so that huge yes, and that's where I was at when my life fell apart.

Speaker 2: 43:50

I mean it just well, everybody's life fell apart somewhat, so even though it fell apart, it sounds like it gave you direction. So one of the questions that I had was it would inspired you to write vitamin C. You've answered that several times over. So you see, god has this place and he's putting you in positions for for what? For someone to listen this broadcast. You've been another podcast, you, but they're putting you, he's putting you in that position. So, really, what genre does the the fruit films fall into? I mean, is it, is it religious as a science fiction? Is a fiction, what? What?

Speaker 1: 44:26

does that? Well, it's, it's. I don't know if you call it science fiction, maybe a little bit. It does have elements of faith in it as well, because that's why it's was set in the future and the government had taken over all food production.

Speaker 1: 44:41

And it was illegal to grow your own food and it was illegal to own seeds, and this group of farmers farm family Literaries, literally, is growing food underground, and they're growing up for their neighbors and they're the only ones like getting sick from this pandemic and so, yeah, and so there are faith elements, because that's why they're risking everything, because they feel like, you know, god showed them what they needed to do and they have to do it, and I mean that's kind of with vitamin C. I feel like God, like I said earlier, can make good out of really bad things. And I know Peter would want me to speak up. He was a fighter and and so it's. It's a thriller, science fiction, but it also has elements of faith. At one honorable mention the screenplay did from the international Christian Film Festival some years back, and so I'm just in the fundraising stage. I have a I partnered with a nonprofit Organization, so any donations would be possibly tax-aductible, so we have have a fundraiser for that and for Glimmer to your file is recie.

Speaker 1: 45:52

No, I have partnered with one. It's called Christian Ministry Alliance and and that's on my website too. If anybody wants to go to my film and novel projects, I have links to those and I have a proof-of-concept trailer for Glimmer, if anybody, which kind of Teases the story. If anybody wants to see that on my website as well.

Speaker 2: 46:11

So how have critics and audiences Responded to your your films?

Speaker 1: 46:17

Well they're not out yet that I have made two novels from the screenplays. I kind of did it backward. I wrote I'm more of a screenwriter than a novelist, so Glimmers in a book form. I've gotten really good reviews on that and obviously they've been selected in film festivals, the screenplay and so and see, please as well. It's also in a novel form and but it was a screenplay first and it still is a screenplay. I'm still hoping, hoping that I get to bring it in a two-for-ish in some time.

Speaker 2: 46:48

Right and catch that magic ride right.

Speaker 1: 46:51

Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2: 46:52

So how does the prude approach the topic of mental health in Her books work? I mean, because you know that this is all about a mental psyche, the, the, the military calls it psyops. They set you up, they, they get you ready for this and then and then they just hammer you. How does that work in your books? I mean, you got to be seeing that with all of Peter's stuff, the, the roller coaster, the emotional roller coaster.

Speaker 1: 47:17

Well, I think, and if I'm understanding your question correctly, without faith I couldn't do any of these things, and so even in my books, you know, the good wins over evil, and so that's the, you know, once we stand up and we, you know, seek direction from God and we do the things. You know that he's asking us to do doesn't in this world and real world doesn't mean it's always Going to win here, but in my books, obviously, I like the happy ending. Okay, you know, I don't want to leave it, just doom and gloom and so, but Is does that answer your question?

Speaker 2: 47:55

It does. It was more of a flavor of a content get inside your head a little bit, just kind of let you, let you say it Well, how you feel it.

Speaker 1: 48:04

And so you answered exactly us. Okay, because even in vitamin C I talk about, I know where Peter is now. Selfishly, I want him to still be with me. I mean, we'd spent a lot of our years raising our children, and here our youngest was in college, and so it was going to be our time.

Speaker 1: 48:20

Yeah you know, and so we got cheated that now, obviously, selfishly, I shouldn't want him back, but I wish he was still here with me. I mean, we look forward to being grandparents together. And he would say things like oh, that's gonna be the funnest thing. We can play with them and then give them back.

Speaker 2: 48:37

Right, why them up? Load them with sugar and say yours. Exactly we sound like the same age.

Speaker 2: 48:43

Yeah, okay we're about that same point in life and and, yes, we are totally looking forward to our Time we, which we started I at least I am. I don't know if my wife is or not, but we are and you want that time back. And if you, if you don't take the time in life to do what you want to do while you're doing it and we know plenty of people that, hey, we're gonna do this first and put our stuff on hold you might not get a chance.

Speaker 1: 49:08

That's true, and we had started doing some things because we had I even home schooled so and worked part-time, but so we had really Earth our younger three children.

Speaker 1: 49:20

Anyway, I'd done that, and so Peter worked a lot, so I was able to do that and I was a decision we made together.

Speaker 1: 49:27

But, um, so we had started doing some things but, yeah, we were looking forward to doing a lot more and and I'm grateful for the things that we had done we went on a vacation about two years before that, just him and I, and we hadn't done that since our oldest had been born, which was 30 at the time, and so so I'm glad we did those things and he would go with me on my little adventures.

Speaker 1: 49:50

And you know, I did a documentary on and I think they were doing it at Native American Reservation up in South Dakota where they're trying to bring film you know, people there to help them learn horse riding and things that to do things in films, and so we went up there and I did a little documentary and he'd gone with me, and so we had, we had done some things, but we were looking forward, yeah, to it being our time and you know, I have to remind myself. I need to say that the book this life is better, better vapor, and I'm still here, so I still have work to do, and and if I can just help one person that's what I, and he used to tell me, that too, when I would speak out about things if I could just help one person, you know, then it's, then it's been worth it.

Speaker 2: 50:35

That's how we can do. Yeah a lot of people that come on the show. They say you know, I don't know what your audience is, I don't know who's listening. But if I could help that one dude. Yeah exactly, and and I don't you know this, this is not a money thing for me. I don't do this for the dude, because there is no money in it.

Speaker 2: 50:52

I mean, I barely pay enough to make my, my Buzzsprout payments, that I just just it's not, and but I'm not doing it for that. I'm doing this because, like you said, somebody somewhere, some divine intervention says you need to do this. Yes, exactly and I couldn't have got 45 million listeners on my own.

Speaker 1: 51:10

No, no, I know well, and even my book. When I read it I feel like God laid out all that research for me, because I wrote it in a pretty quick you know, and I'm like I just it just like it unrolled for me and I feel like God did that. He wanted me to put that out there.

Speaker 2: 51:28

And the story is endless because it's person after person after person. You're probably one of the first ones They've done that were non-covid, but have the same. It's the same backstory, it's the same thing.

Speaker 1: 51:41

Well, and that's yes, exactly, I'm sorry, no, go ahead. When I went to our state legislature and I know there's one of the lawmakers that's kind of trying to look into some of this and I was telling the receptionist and this is the first time I had heard that, because I didn't even, I had not made connection with anybody else I thought maybe we were the only person and you think maybe you're insane because you're like really, because I thought hospitals were always there To help you you know I didn't agree with a lot of the.

Speaker 1: 52:09

You know I liked holistic things and I knew they wouldn't do that, but I I never really thought that they were actually trying to hurry you along right yeah to her that end of life. Yes, exactly, and that's too hard.

Speaker 1: 52:24

There is, yes, well, you just don't believe that in America. I mean, that's what we think in America. And so, even though I know how the medical system is, I just never thought that and I was telling her all the things that happened to To Peter, and she's like, oh, they used the COVID protocol on him and I'm like what? And so, yeah, so much, they didn't give him remdesivir, as far as I know, because he didn't have, you know. But you know all the other things and and then you know it was, it's just so. There's, um, I think former feds has a commonalities thing on their website and when I read that I'm like, oh my gosh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, they did that.

Speaker 2: 53:02

Yeah, so you're checking the boxes.

Speaker 1: 53:05

Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2: 53:07

Now, do you remember a while back now? Now, this is not that it would be the doom and gloom, but a lot of people pay attention in the, in the past, and there was a doctor named Jack Kevorkian.

Speaker 1: 53:18

Yes.

Speaker 2: 53:19

Now he got pinched pretty heavy for assisting an end of life, but for sure terminals not maybe terminals.

Speaker 1: 53:28

Well, and that's the and I talk about that. I'm getting ready to do a short video on that whole thing because on my website I have that 39% of the doctors and I have a doctor in there and I have more of that interview and they are discussing three doctors and a lawyer. The case up in I'm not sure it's somewhere up north in the United States that they did charge a doctor because he gave them, they thought, lethal doses of fentanyl. Well, he was acquitted and but this doctor talks about. You know, we've all seen suffering and people going back and forth between the nursing home and we have limited resources and in this country and we're wasting them on people that are insalvageable. That's how he puts wasting them.

Speaker 2: 54:14

That was this.

Speaker 1: 54:14

There was this quote well I people can look at it on there. I want. I don't want to say maybe, but he did say we're using, we have limited resources. I would have to listen to it again, but it's on my website so you and they're discussing yeah yes, this, and I think anymore they don't call it assisted suicide, because everybody go, you know right, it's the wrong term.

Speaker 2: 54:36

You're scaring me now.

Speaker 1: 54:37

I I think the palliative care and the comfort care they're hiding it under that. Yeah, they are telling people it's compassionate, or being compassionate, because that's what they try to tell me. And here my husband was in there for an acute, really an acute illness. It was an infection, his cancer was in remission and that's what they wanted to do and they did without me knowing, before they even asked me for the additional they wanted to do. And so, yeah, I think that's what it's under. And there's a gentleman I'm sure you've heard of him.

Speaker 2: 55:12

Scott.

Speaker 1: 55:12

Share a Gracie, share a story yes, and I have spoken with him and I have some of I have some news releases on my website as well, that I have a little bit about his story and, yes, I mean the same. His was even more blatant, oh.

Speaker 2: 55:27

I'll tell you she was a special needs she was. She was way special needs and they just put it on the way back burner. They but see, this guy was a fighter and he fought to the point where they tuned him out they said yeah you're gone. And then they took it, took care, into their own hands. So now here's a company not unlike your tires plus or your Goodyear stores or whatever it is again I use that analogy that is gonna now make decisions for your loved one exactly.

Speaker 1: 55:56

Well, that's what I'm. I don't know what happened to our Constitutional Rights. I feel like once you go to the hospital, you don't have autonomy anymore. You are not a person to them and what gave them the right?

Speaker 1: 56:08

that's exactly and that's why I'm like why are they getting away with this? I do know if anybody tries to do malpractice anymore. They've pretty much done away with that and the lawyers won't take cases. I've heard from over and over it's very hard because a lot of state legislatures and then there's some kind of act I don't. I don't know if it's the cares act. I don't want to say that because I'm not sure, but they have limited the amount that they can collect. Well, a lot of these lawyers don't want to take these cases because I guess they're very expensive to try, because you have to find some medical experts somewhere that'll say, oh yeah, they shouldn't have done that and who will talk against their own?

Speaker 1: 56:45

exactly and they will not do that it's kind of a rigged system and I just started researching which you may have heard of him, zeke Emanuel. He I guess was the architecture or he had a lot to do with the creation of the Obamacare you call it, and he's written a book and he said some he doesn't want to live past 75 and he was also what I found research and people can look this up was tacked as the COVID person in the government and he has written a paper and I'm still researching. So I would encourage people to look this up to make sure I'm interpreting this right. But some of the articles I've written he has the philosophy of and I don't remember the term that was used but kind of placing value on lives and infants and people over 30 are less valuable because they cannot contribute to society like someone that's a teenager who's had training and learning grace, he was 19 you'll see, and but she was a special yes, she was down.

Speaker 1: 57:53

She was a down son, yeah and so their lives aren't as well. To my husband is over 50 and to them I just think they wrote him off as a terminal cancer patient, which they obviously see. That's what I'm saying. They don't know people, and if they did, or if he was or was not, it was not up to them to decide when he would die.

Speaker 2: 58:15

But so, yeah, there's a lot of does a movie come to mind when I did? When you talk like this.

Speaker 1: 58:21

I'm sorry. What now?

Speaker 2: 58:22

does a movie come to mind? 70s production? Tell me to work with me on this early 70s production. Maybe, maybe, 74, 75, could be seven, but I'm being wide here. You went to sanctuary it's called Logan's run. If you were over 35 years of age, they, they terminated whoever's over that old age oh, I've never seen that film.

Speaker 1: 58:44

I need to watch that old-school sci-fi again.

Speaker 2: 58:48

This is where we can't write this stuff, and yet and yet in Gracie's situation and I think I used that same term on that show with Scott and I say look, I mean this here sounds like a logans run thing, yeah, and what's unfortunate?

Speaker 1: 59:02

it's not a film anymore.

Speaker 2: 59:03

It's all right well yeah, other than the sensualism when you're floating in the air and all it but. But I associated all these conversations with that type of deal. We're not gonna deal with you. You're wasting our supplies for someone who might need it. But at that, what point? When do you say this one deserves it over the other?

Speaker 1: 59:22

well, and see that's what that doctor that I have on my website basically at say he says. You know, maybe this is what society wants. If you listen to the whole interview and I need to to put that up there I mean, that's what they're discussing. These four doctors and an lawyer are discussing when does comfort care become murder?

Speaker 1: 59:38

that's the headline they have up there and the lawyer had a very shocking answer to that. He goes well, if your intent is to in suffering, even if you know it's going to kill them, it's the double indemnity effect or something like that. He goes, it's okay. And that's how the gentleman, the doctor that was charged with murder in those cases of fentanyl, was acquitted but was by that philosophy and and he said, yeah, oh yeah, even if they know, even if they know it's gonna kill you, if you're, if your intent is in suffering, it's okay well, I, I intended to suffer in a lot of people that don't think normal and logical am I.

Speaker 2: 1:00:19

Am I exemptified now?

Speaker 1: 1:00:20

I well, I mean it sounds like the principal might apply.

Speaker 2: 1:00:24

I don't know yeah, that be held like expensive deal, right? Yeah, everybody's got their point of view, but the key is to listen to someone's point of view and see if it makes sense to you well, and I think the key to was these things are being forced upon the patient right and the family.

Speaker 1: 1:00:42

There's no choice they are not asking for this.

Speaker 1: 1:00:45

They are wanting their people to live yep and I mean Scott even said under grace wanted to live. They wanted her to live. I mean she should have been able to walk out of that hospital. I believe my husband should have been able to walk out of that hospital and I mean I feel like and I know this is maybe some people think I'm crazy I think you would have a better chance at home, right, if I know they weren't going to give him the right medicine or at the Goodyear station, where you could actually pick what kind of medication you wanted well, yeah, right.

Speaker 2: 1:01:14

I'm gonna go down to the local tire shop and maybe they'll give me the right stuff well, or even a veterinarian, they, they can do things.

Speaker 1: 1:01:22

You know, I know people think I'm insane, but my dog got sick in the vet, ran tests and he gave her some kind of shot and she was fine. And I'm like you know, she had an infection.

Speaker 2: 1:01:33

They've removed our choice they took our choice away. And it's no different than when you go and you want to do something and I use a lot of the car analogy world because it's kind of my background if you take the choice away from someone and you just do it regardless, even if it's in the further, better interest.

Speaker 1: 1:01:49

And it's not about the choice, it's about letting them make that choice well and when they can't, if they could guarantee me a hundred percent what I'm doing works every time, and this is gonna make your husband be okay. But when they have statistics that show them and this hospital I looked it up later on a government site had very has a very bad statistics of treating sepsis and when they they live, they are there so they see how many people die and they've seen people die repeatedly. I mean, when I was there I heard them in the hallway could talk about yeah, I have to go talk to the wife, and this is before my husband got so bad. So they see this repeatedly.

Speaker 2: 1:02:28

It's just madness to keep doing the same thing, and especially when a family member is requesting something they have an advocate, they're on site, they're pushing the buttons, they're hollering and jumping up and down and they decide to make their again their doctors.

Speaker 1: 1:02:43

So you're still thinking that these guys are working for you, but they work for the company exactly, and and I even say that in my book too what gives them the right to make those decisions like that? Because at the end of the day, they get to go home yes family if they make a wrong decision, but the patient often does not. So how can they stand there and do that to you when they know there's a big chance that what they're doing is gonna fail again?

Speaker 1: 1:03:12

even if it fails, you had the right to choose exactly, and I had records to show them that it had helped him before and they still would, and I shared that with them and they shouldn't have to.

Speaker 2: 1:03:22

You shouldn't have to show them the records no, it's totally irrelevant when you say, look, you're trying this. And if they say I refuse because I'm not treating them, what do you do then?

Speaker 1: 1:03:32

we'll see. That's when you need an advocate. You need to call someone like grace care or an attorney well, but those are hard to find to and great care will help you find an attorney to.

Speaker 2: 1:03:43

Annie quiner ring a bell. No, scott Annie quiner, minnesota couple, he was flown to Texas because at the end of his situation he was at Mercy Medical and Gunner Appetz and and they says we're moving them because they wouldn't continue the treatment. No, annie has been a guest on the show. She was one of my first COVID guests and I'll tell you what she's a rock star. She just did her thing and told like it was and totally had to give it that hospital, that attorney, their attorney, the kung fu, like no one would believe. And I don't know where they are in their case. But I hope they have some success because the story is getting old.

Speaker 1: 1:04:23

The same story yes, and I'm not for all that, but I there's some way. We have to keep the, we have to make these people be accountable, because that's why it keeps happening. No one ever has to answer for what they're doing, and so they just keep doing it and keep doing and they're, and to me people are dying needlessly, and so more power to her I am. I'm hope it does work out, because and there are starting to be more cases and more people standing up yes but it's, they're happening, so it we need it to happen soon.

Speaker 2: 1:04:53

Well, soon is not enough for the, for the people had lost no, I mean, it's not gonna bring my husband and that's what's so hard for me.

Speaker 1: 1:05:02

When I find these things, I'm like oh, I wish I know, I wish I'd known this fast won't bring my uncle back fast won't do nothing.

Speaker 2: 1:05:09

But if you don't start, you've succeeded at failing. And I don't intend on failing because I have the same story in our family and my uncle was per diem, but his is a co-vet thing and his daughter, which is all up in the medical world I mean top notch stuff was jumping up and down.

Speaker 2: 1:05:27

She's one of them, yes, and in her own hospital she moved them from the UM University of Minnesota up to her her place and couldn't provide even nearly enough kung fu to change things she was one of them until she bucked them well, she, you know she was one of them, but she, she always bucked them because she knew what the right way was. She's a person of faith, she's a conservative, right? You know the whole whole thing and she couldn't beat her own company yeah, well, I don't.

Speaker 1: 1:05:58

Yeah, I believe that because they, they're the company, like you said, or I call the corporate America medical machine yeah you know they, they are in control and that's where that's why that certificate of need.

Speaker 1: 1:06:12

If doctors could open their own hospitals and do it a whole different way, I'm not saying just plug in and do what is everywhere else. They need to. I there is a lot of physicians offices now that are opening and they don't really take insurance. And you have to, you know, pay as you go, which is kind of hard to, but they are doing things differently and but that's not the hot in the hospital and she gets taken up. You have to go there. So we need to get that out some way. I mean, insurance should not be controlling everything and if you want to go to a doctor like that and you want to get treatments like that, and you should be allowed to and your insurance should pay for it so let's plug the show, let's plug your book one more time, go ahead well, it's called vitamin C se and I have a lot of research in there.

Speaker 1: 1:07:01

I tell our story, but I also have a lot of research in there that I hope would be helpful for people that, if you're, you know, have an illness or facing a hospital stay. Hopefully you don't have to go in the hospital. But there's also links on my website and you can click on a link on my website, gaila prouittcom, and you can even get your copy of the book if you like well.

Speaker 2: 1:07:23

I appreciate the copy you sent me. Thank you and I wish you the best success. Maybe this show will we're brought together for a reason and I don't know what that is yet but maybe this show will help you get some some verbiage out in the world. Let everybody heal your story, the also story that is just so rampant yeah, that's what's sad.

Speaker 1: 1:07:47

Yeah, if and I say that in my book to you know our story alone would be a tragedy, but it's, it's not unique, unfortunately, and you know so, there's a study from Johns Hopkins that medic medical practice is the third leading cause of death in the US.

Speaker 2: 1:08:05

So and that was before coded that was 2016, so you can imagine yeah what that is now and in the doctor's defense I don't want to keep kicking him in the behind here, but in their defense they didn't know a lot about this. I mean, how do you come into a situation where your government's telling you one thing you will comply with what your government says, because they're the ones that are controlling your, your license, your, your ability to work, your right to work. And then how do you create the moral bridge between hey, I got to feed my family, but I got to do right well, there were doctors, I think more than we knew.

Speaker 1: 1:08:41

I recently met some people and this man is a doctor and I found out that he was advocating, went to the board of a local hospital advocating for these treatments, had research out the you know and they would not do it and he ended up having to leave. So I think they're quietly more of them than we know, and the ones that we do know about, we know about them mostly. Like you said, they take their license away, they take their hospital privileges away. Dr Paul Merrick was very well respected and the sepsis protocol was very well respected in his hospital and they even did a promotional video about it and I have a link in my book until he wanted to use the vitamin C for COVID and then all heck broke loose and I believe he lost his privileges he had.

Speaker 1: 1:09:31

He left the council cultured him yeah, exactly, and he, it was the top of his game. I think he was in charge of the ICU there, and so yes and so, but yeah, they. I have a link to their site too on my website. But, yeah, so, these very knowledgeable people. I'm not a medical profession, but I feel like who you're gonna trust. The people that are risking everything to lose everything? Yeah, or the people who are making all the money you know?

Speaker 2: 1:10:00

yes, follow the money, or is this the case where you, if you want to be healthy, you don't follow the money?

Speaker 1: 1:10:07

Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2: 1:10:08

Because you know, if you always want to find the perpetrator in a situation, you always follow the money. Well, in this case, we know where the perpetrator is, but we know that the guys who are just wanting, like Dr Scott Jensen. All he wanted was the right thing out there. Yeah, governor for Minnesota good guy, he's been on the show a couple of times, just an all-around decent guy, and they attacked him time and time and time again, but he never gave up the fight.

Speaker 1: 1:10:33

No, and he's still having, I believe, a lot of people. I think he's the. I think I spoke with him on the phone. It's been a little while back but, he's still having, and that's sad. I mean in America. I mean we. I think this is someone with a problem. We think we're free here and we are. I love this country and to me it's the best country there is, and if we fail, there's nowhere to go.

Speaker 2: 1:10:56

Right, where do you go from here?

Speaker 1: 1:10:57

Exactly, but we are not as free as we think we are.

Speaker 2: 1:11:01

Well, they like to say free-ish.

Speaker 1: 1:11:03

Okay. Well, and if you can't be free with your healthcare your own, like they like to say it, my body, my choice well, it doesn't seem to apply when you're sick.

Speaker 2: 1:11:13

Ah right, that was a poke at the left, right, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:11:17

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:11:19

I know where you're swinging and I get you and we're pretty much a predominantly right show, but we have a lot of leftists and guests and they have their points. They're absolutely right too. So the point of being listening to both as a show that everybody's got good intel they're saying the same thing and they're just rapping a different rapper. Yes.

Speaker 1: 1:11:38

Exactly. Well, I do believe in America that most people, just the common people, we all want the same thing. Yes, we want to be able to take care of our families. Yep, we want to help our neighbors if they need it, but we're being pitted against each other. Right. And the people that are pulling the strings. They don't care about people.

Speaker 2: 1:11:55

That's how they pull the strings. That's how they command.

Speaker 1: 1:11:57

Exactly, and I even say in my book I feel like doctors and patients are being pitted against each other because, when we were in the first hospital we would always say thank you to everyone because we're very grateful.

Speaker 1: 1:12:10

I mean, we did that in all of them and I had one of the nurses say oh, that is so nice because sometimes the family is their mean, their mean to me, and I think some of that comes from frustration because they don't trust them anymore. But I feel like the people, like I said before, that are pulling the strings, they're the ones making the money. It's not the doctors and the nurses and all that. They work hard.

Speaker 2: 1:12:33

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:12:34

And they're doing the job the way they should do.

Speaker 2: 1:12:35

They do the only way they can and they're allowed to.

Speaker 1: 1:12:39

Exactly, and so that's what I want us to be able to come together and the patient and the doctors good doctors who care and the nurses who care, and we need to unite because you know the divide and conquer thing. So, yes, we all have, and that's what makes America great we can have different viewpoints and still be friends, and they don't want us to be friends anymore with anybody who has a different viewpoint than us, and listen to each other. And go ahead.

Speaker 1: 1:13:08

No, that, I just feel like you're frustrated that message to get out there. Well, I just I have friends that I know are very left leaning and I don't speak about these things with them because I don't want to not have their friendship anymore and used to, you could have those conversations.

Speaker 2: 1:13:25

You can still have that, have that conversation and if they walk, if they walk away from it if they walk away, that's on them.

Speaker 1: 1:13:32

Right and so, yes, I just think. Yeah, the divide and conquer thing, I think is what's going on in our country.

Speaker 2: 1:13:40

Oddly enough, I was at emergency room last night. My mom went in and I have these things when I look at a doctor or a nurse and they'll tell you something. Hey, we're doing this for checking this. She had some hard things going on and they want to get some testing done. At 1, 32 o'clock in the morning, I looked at this little gal and I says who do you work for? 99.9% of the time they all fail. You ask your nurses, you ask your doctors. Primarily, you ask your doctor. You say who do you work for? I work for the hospital.

Speaker 1: 1:14:14

Wrong answer.

Speaker 2: 1:14:15

That was the wrongest answer you could give it to me. They see it as I work for the hospital and I looked there and says that is incorrect. You work for my mother or us.

Speaker 1: 1:14:25

Good for you.

Speaker 2: 1:14:26

The hospital pays you, and here's where we're going to start this. So you've, you've, took control of the situation. Yes, you don't want to stir it up so that your loved one isn't getting there behind kick, behind scenes, or but at that point, what's the point? If they're going to, if they're going to treat him bad, anyway, we can do this someplace else. I can stop this procedure.

Speaker 1: 1:14:45

Right. Well, and then they know to what you're you're going to advocate. Yes, the person right.

Speaker 2: 1:14:50

Would they know I'm not a doctor, obviously, but they do know I'm going to stir this pot.

Speaker 1: 1:14:56

Right.

Speaker 2: 1:14:56

So when you ask your doctor and everybody out there listening you look at your medical profession and say who do you work for Before you even start whatever you're doing, and if they give you that wrong answer, you either correct them or you pack your stuff up and go out the door.

Speaker 1: 1:15:09

No, that's a good point. And. I do think that the hospitalist situation has made it more like that, because they don't leave that place, they work, they work there and they are paid directly with the hospital.

Speaker 2: 1:15:21

Yes, they are. With whose money?

Speaker 1: 1:15:23

Yep and used to your, your primary care physician would make rounds or at least be consulted, and no, that's not. That's not the case unless the hospitalist decides they want to do that.

Speaker 2: 1:15:35

Well then, that company has made a decision in their protocols. Yep, and here's why we're in the situation talking about it.

Speaker 1: 1:15:42

Yep Exactly.

Speaker 2: 1:15:44

So next time you go in everybody, anybody who's listening to this just ask your medical professional. Who do you work for? I like that and that'll give you a mindset of what's going to happen from there on out.

Speaker 1: 1:15:54

I do.

Speaker 2: 1:15:54

I like that Well, Huttcast has got to pull the pin because we are like 48 into this one of excellent conversation today. And, gaila, I really, really appreciate you coming in. Let's plug that book one more time on the way out.

Speaker 1: 1:16:08

It's called Vitamin C S-E-E, why I believe hospital doctors refusal to look beyond the corrupt pharmaceutical only model killed my husband and it's. You can find a link on my website, gailapruitcom.

Speaker 2: 1:16:25

Thank you for taking your day and recording with me. I can only think that a lot of people who are listening are just going to go. Yeah, this making sense. But I want to get both listeners. I'm not just right, it's not left, it's independent. I want everybody to listen at the same point, because we have a point, we absolutely have this point, and I don't care what side of this aisle you sit on, it's the same thing.

Speaker 1: 1:16:47

It's happening to everyone. It doesn't discriminate political lines.

Speaker 2: 1:16:53

So Huttcast is going to sign off here. Have a happy and rest of your wonderful Sunday. I appreciate you tuning in and I was off last week. We had some things to handle. Guys out in the East Coast appreciate the calls. You can find me on Facebook, or we call it hate book. You can find me on hate book for a Huttcast. Messages are always coming through, so I'm constantly getting hundreds, if not thousands, of messages a week and I'm trying to get to them all. So you'll have to be patient with me. Some of you guys, whatever you were writing weird stuff, I can't even read it. So save yourself some time and just say hi or something. But appreciate you saying something and Huttcast will see you next time. Bye-bye, thanks, ruth, and that's a wrap for Huttcast. Huttcast is again a pragmatic approach to seeing things how some people see them. If you like our show, give us a thumbs up on the Facebook site Again for Huttcast. Thank you again. Have a wonderful evening.