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From Death's Door to Healing: Rick Hill's Extraordinary Journey
What would you do if doctors told you cancer had invaded your entire body and conventional medicine had nothing more to offer? In 1974, Rick Hill faced this devastating reality at the Mayo Clinic after eight hours of exploratory surgery revealed cancer throughout his lymphatic system. Weighing just 120 pounds and on morphine for pain, Rick made a decision that defied medical orthodoxy – he left the prestigious institution for a clinic in Tijuana offering treatments derived from apricot kernels.
Rick's remarkable journey unfolds as he shares the three-component treatment that transformed his terminal prognosis: B17 (derived from apricot kernels), enzyme therapy to strip away the protein coating that shields cancer cells from immune detection, and pangamic acid (B15) to oxygenate his system. The results were astonishing – within three weeks, his color returned, pain subsided, and he could stand upright again. This wasn't temporary remission but the beginning of fifty cancer-free years.
Beyond the medical aspects, Rick reveals the profound life lessons from facing mortality at such a young age. He emphasizes that true healing required more than just the initial treatment – it demanded a lifetime commitment to maintaining his health through continued supplementation and dietary vigilance. This experience ignited something powerful within him, propelling the once-stuttering young man to become a professional speaker, successful author, and co-inventor of an air purifier that sold 50 million units.
Rick's passionate advocacy for medical freedom and alternative options comes not from anti-establishment sentiment but from lived experience. He offers a thought-provoking challenge: what if we focused on prevention rather than treatment? What if connecting the dots between our daily choices and future health outcomes could help us avoid serious illness altogether?
Whether you're facing health challenges, interested in preventative approaches, or simply fascinated by extraordinary human stories, Rick's fifty-year journey offers wisdom, hope, and practical insights that could change how you think about health and healing. Discover his book "Too Young to Die" and explore his recommended supplements at RNCstore.com by searching "Rick" – mention HUTCAST for an additional 10% discount on your first order.
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2, 3, 4. 2, 3, 4. Secretly recorded from deep inside the bowels of a decommissioned missile silo, we bring you the man, one single man, who wants to bring light to the darkness and dark to the lightness. Although he's not always right, he is always certain. So now, with security protocols in place, the protesters have been forced back behind the barricades and the blast doors are now sealed. Without further delay, let me introduce you to the host of HuttCast, mr Tim Huttner.
Speaker 2:Thank you, sergeant-at-arms. You can now take your post. The views and opinions expressed in this program are solely those of the individual and participants. These views and opinions expressed do not represent those of the host or the show. The opinions in this broadcast are not to replace your legal, medical or spiritual professionals. Welcome to the podcast today 72625. We'll drop this episode tomorrow at about 7 in the morning. We have a very special guest today, and this guest is an author, a speaker, a survivor, rick Hill. Rick, are you there?
Speaker 2:I'm here, thank you, looking forward to this okay, rick, we just uh pretty informal, straight to the point. Uh, say it like you feel it, have a conversation and and we got to take a break to begin with we'll get to our sponsors and then we'll come back and do our thing. Are you ready for the show?
Speaker 3:so I jump off the phone. Is that what I'm doing?
Speaker 2:nope, you're just going to stay right there. I I'm just doing the editing.
Speaker 3:Okay, there you go.
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Speaker 2:So on the show. If you've listened to me for any amount of time. We have these special guests, these guests that come in and they rock your world. They tell you things that you didn't know and you probably should know. Everybody knows that I'm a big 2A Amendment supporter, freedom of speech guy, but I'm also a Common Sense guy and we have here again Rick Hill, the author, speaker or survivor of things. He's going to tell us that we should probably be paying attention to. Rick, can you hear me? Okay, I can, it's great, thank you. So first of all, there's some things that we want to know about you. Where'd you come from? What did you do? How did you do? I mean, how did you make your money? The whole thing's in life. Let's get that away at our first question who are you?
Speaker 3:I'm a guy that went to seminary. I was a principal at a Christian day school in New Ulm, minnesota. I had my life all mapped out, newly married about the year, my wife was just expecting our first child and you know, hey rewards. And then I got a tumor, oh boy, and I went to the doctor. They shipped me around to different guys. One guy was a little sharper than the others and he said look, I've seen this before. I think you need to go to the Mayo Clinic. You're not far from me, it's a two or three hour drive and I'll make an appointment and you go, da, da, da.
Speaker 3:So I show up, they run me through the ring and then the surgeon comes in and says we need to do some surgery. It's going to be extensive because it's exploratory. They didn't have scans back then. 1974, okay, 50 years ago, wow, yeah. So to give you the cliff notes, I I did eight and a half hours. They did eight and a half hours of surgery. They operated even on my neck. They found cancer. They operated on my feet, they found cancer.
Speaker 3:And after this lengthy surgery they just closed me all up and when I came to they said boy, it's everywhere, it's in your lymphatic system and it's going to be hard to stop. But we've got some chemo. We'll take a run at it. You know, not sounding altogether positive, and so I had made up my mind that in about three days I was going to start chemo and probably lose my life quickly. But here's where the story gets interesting. This is that opening incident that changes the rest of your life. So you know we're going to jump into act two pretty quickly. I got a letter with a 10-cent stamp on it and I opened it up. It was from a guy I knew he was a Baptist pastor, but he was also a John Bircher. I don't know if you've been around long enough to know who that is, but it's kind of—go ahead.
Speaker 3:I don't know the name, no, Okay, it's kind of like MAGA on steroids. All right, very conservative group and he used to come to our college and speak in chapel and he would do the first 20 minutes on politics, which was not like our association and me and the other Lumen ones would sit with our arms folded rolling our eyes. Okay, okay, we're gonna get out of the un. Gotcha. Now tell us something that we came to hear. You know, right, this guy wrote me and and it just said and I'm not, this is all that was on the paper. If you want to live comma you're going to have to leave the Mayo Clinic. John, wow, I know, and I looked around the room to see. Did anybody else read this? And this is crazy, tom.
Speaker 2:So you're in shock.
Speaker 3:I called him. I had his number and I called him up and I said John, I'm at the Citadel of Modern Medicine and I've got good insurance. What are you thinking? He said well, I agree with that, it is a citadel of modern medicine, but it's not medicine you need at this point. I said why not? He said well, how are you doing? I said you've been talking to somebody I know.
Speaker 3:And yeah, I said what do you want me to do, john? Come on, cut to the chase. He said well, you're going to have to leave the Mayo Clinic. You're going to fly into San Diego. I thought, okay, nothing wrong with that. But then, and he said, yeah, then you're going to get on a bus and go to Tijuana. I said my whole family's here. They flew in to say goodbye, see who gets the gold watch. And I said you want me to tell them. Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute. What are they going to give me in Tijuana that I can't get here? He says are you sitting down? I thought, oh, no, this gets worse by the second. I said yeah, john, I'm seated. I can hardly stand up after the surgery I've had. He says it's a derivative of apricots. I said so tonight after dinner, you want me to address my family and say I'm leaving the Mayo Clinic, going to Tijuana, and they're going to give me apricots I suppose this is an IV. He said, yeah.
Speaker 3:I said, john, you know, let me hang up and call the chemotherapist. So I hung up, I called the Mayo Clinic. He came to the phone because I was, you know, a guy that was nearly dead, weighed 120 pounds. Oh boy, and I'm 5'9" Okay. So I got him on the phone and I said here's what's going on. I told him the story and I expected he'd cuss me out. Tell me how stupid I am, because my family did. And he says well, it is warm in Tijuana this time of year, I know. And I looked at him, my mouth dropped open and I said message delivered, I appreciate your honesty, thank you.
Speaker 3:And I got up and left the office, went home, told my family what he said, went around the room and everybody my brother, sam Hill, if you can believe that he says to me Ricky, if you go to Tijuana, I will never speak to you again. And I said, sam, I don't think you're going to have a choice. And I got to my father-in-law and he stood up from the table and said I like it, I will take him down there and I will put money into this. Well, game over. I pointed at him, I said deal. And two days later, tim, we left for Tijuana and I went down the rabbit hole Because I grew up a Detroit greaser with the Fonzie hair, the leather jacket, the whole thing, and there was no health food store near me.
Speaker 3:We didn't have manicured golf courses and clay tennis courts where I lived, nothing. It was piggly-wiggly type stuff, sure, sure. So I didn't know what to do. We went to a health food store when we first got down there to try and find something we could eat, because they had sent me a diet sheet and I've never been in a place like this.
Speaker 3:Now, this is the 70s, not, you know, not like what you have here today right right so I um, I don't know what's clinging here, but I hope that's it that's all right no worries he.
Speaker 3:Um, we go in this place where abby shanker music playing in the background. I immediately see I'm the only one in the building wearing any underwear and people are filtering stuff out of barrels and I just thought I don't blend. I don't know what I've done here and I would ask your listeners do you think you have to blend to get success? Do you have to believe ahead of time to get success? I hear that all the time. My wife got on the airplane with me. Can you imagine they let people do that? Then she told the lady at the counter my husband's dying, he's going that can I get on the plane and just say goodbye? And she got on. We're both crying. I looked at her and I said sweetie pie, I think it's a one-way ticket. I didn't I, I apricots right.
Speaker 2:So my question is at what point? At what point of this whole deal was the moment you knew that you were going to leave? Is it because of the money, or is it because you, you had no light on this side of the tunnel?
Speaker 3:I call it road signs, you know. The first one was the baptist pastor. Okay, yeah, you know, here's a guy that had never spoken a word to me in my life, writes me a personal note and sticks his nose in my business. So I thought to myself that's not only gutsy, he must really believe in this. To tell a dying man you've got to leave your only hope. So I thought I've got to at least check this out. Second road sign the chemotherapist right it's warm in tijuana.
Speaker 3:What is that? You know? What he was saying was really rick between us girls. We can't help you. I don't think tijuana is going to help you. But if you want to lay on the beach and sip tequila, okay, fine, you know, do what you want to do at this point of the of the problem, okay.
Speaker 3:And then the third one was my father-in-law who, a very successful person, had a big uh contracting company, heavy equipment, and he said I'm, I want you to do this. He said if you stay at the Mayo Clinic, you're toast. I don't know where he maybe he was a John Birch guy, I don't know. But those were three things that sort of pushed me screaming through the threshold of faith. But I hear these people say in order for something to work, you gotta believe in your heart. That it's. You know. And you're in a seminar and it goes on and on. And you buy their book. And you know, I don't think so. I think if there are road signs that you see, and it's logical and it's based on some research, and it is.
Speaker 3:There was a Dr John Beard in the 20s that wrote extensively on this. He called it the trophoblastic theory of cancer. He got it because of working with pregnant women. They came into my hospital room at the Mayo Clinic and said got some interesting news for you. I said go. He said you're pregnant, I said, and this was before woke. I said I don't think so and he said no, your urine checks out to have a lot of HTC and a human chorionic kinetotropin and all pregnant women have excess of that and some cancers produce that the germ cell ones like you have. And I said, okay, well, I don't want to deliver a baby, so let's get this done, and and and. So there was that information that there was actually a guy properly degreed who thought this was a good idea and then, following him in about the 1940s was the Dr Ernst Krebs, and his research was really good about B17. People think about B17 with this more than they think about the enzymes.
Speaker 2:Okay, you're jumping to my next question now, hold on.
Speaker 3:Oh, go ahead.
Speaker 2:You were going through this verbatim as of my questions. Okay, were you ever afraid of the risks involved in rejecting the traditional chemotherapy radiation, especially given your severity of diagnosis?
Speaker 3:I think the chemotherapist tipped his hat and he said if you stay here it's not going to matter, sure. And so where would I rather die? I'd rather die, I'd rather go down fighting than just to take this guy's uh secret and and secretly believe it too. I just thought, if there's a chance and the next little bit I've got to say will finalize that in your mind. Gotcha, you got another question, or you want me to jump in?
Speaker 2:Well, now it segues into my number three questions. How did the lateral vitamin B17 and the nutrition play a role in your recovery? Because it sounds like you were ready to go there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was in bad shape. I was 120 pounds. I was on morphine when I left the Mayo Clinic. I'm seeing pink elephants, man Right.
Speaker 2:You can smell color.
Speaker 3:Holy cow, I mean, I'm like humming all the time. And so when I got down there, there they gave me a diet sheet that was real simple 80 raw organic fruits and vegetables boring as all get out, but but really good. And then they wanted me to detox and so I had my first appointment. That day I met Dr Contreras, the father. That's passed now, but his son took the clinic and he puts me on his bench, opens my shirt and starts frowning and I said, doc, I'm fuzzy on a frown here today. Did I make a mistake? Should I go back home? What do you think?
Speaker 3:Come on, it's Rick. He says none of this had to happen, rick, none of it, if somehow we could have got to you two months ago. None of this surgery, none of this painkiller, nothing. And he said but that leads me to a good question. Because you're really sick, you are, you're in bad shape. Good question because you're really sick, you are, you're, you're in bad shape. So will you do what we ask you to do, without question? I said well, doc, I don't know man, I you know what, if part of it is hanging from my toenails or something.
Speaker 3:I don't know what you're going to open question. And he says no, I'm an MD. I worked in Boston at the children's hospital. I don't have a shade tree operation. We're the real deal.
Speaker 3:But this is participatory medicine we do here. I can't succeed without your help. This isn't something we do to you, this is something we do with you. If you don't help me, if you don't help me, we'll fail you and me. So what's it going to be?
Speaker 3:And I thought, wow, I got no such speech at the Mayo Clinic. It was roll your sleeve up, we're giving it to you. And you know, right after all that surgery, they gave me white bread, jello and 7-Up. So if the cancer wasn't going to kill me, their diet would. So I just thought, yes, I'll do it, I'm in All in, 100%, let's go.
Speaker 3:And so the next day the nurse comes in. She says we need to start your detox. And I said how do we do that? She said, well, you're going to get a three gram injection of B17, which is a derivative of the apricot kernel, which is high in nitrilicide and even has cyanide in it, but not at levels. Oh, the FDA said. Oh, it'll kill you. I took six grams in one day. I had no negative side effects at all, nothing Didn't even get nauseated. I had no negative side effects at all, nothing Didn't even get nauseated. And so she gave me that. And then she gave me the enzymes that I was really.
Speaker 3:I'd read Dr Beard's work. Cancer cells are coated in a protein and that enzyme dissolves the protein. So when your immune system floats by, they go look over there, get them. Otherwise, with that protein on there, they don't see it. I thought that was interesting and that's based on how a mother stops that rapid cell division. In the second month of gestation. Her pancreas produces chymotrypsin, lots of it. The mother lives, the baby lives. It's a happy ending.
Speaker 3:But now, as an adult, I'm not attached to an umbilical cord, there's nobody giving me these enzymes. So I went someplace where they knew that and they gave them to me and I'm still taking them even today, but a little bit right. And so she gives me that. And then she's holding a hose and she says um, I said what's that for? She says have you ever changed the water in the radiator of your car? And I thought that was a silly question. I said well, yeah. She said yeah. She said how'd you do it. And I said I told her and she says exactly. And I said where does the hose go? And even today I cringe when I think about the answer.
Speaker 3:But they wanted to teach me how to do colonics Now, not a day at the beach, yeah right. Okay, tim, this is not what you. Hey, it's Saturday, let's go get a colonic. No, but they don't hurt and they're not really that embarrassing. And and when Elvis died, they said he had 40 pounds of undigested matter in his colon. He just wasn't going to the bathroom. And and you meet people that say I go about once a week, I'm good. No, you're not. What does a baby do? Every time it feeds, it goes.
Speaker 3:So they had to retrain my gut and so they gave me the B17., they gave me the enzymes and finally, there's just three things. And then they gave me pangamic acid, which is vitamin B15, which Muhammad Ali used to take before a fight, because it really oxygenates the system. Cancer is not that crazy about oxygen, so that I know it's simplistic and I I know your listeners saying, well, come on, that's it. But three weeks I did that, just what I said, for 21 days, and in that 21 days, tim, my color started coming back. No more pink elephants. The pain subsided and I could stand up, straight up and walk and I thought this is like something out of a cartoon. No one's going to believe this Nobody. And even today, to be honest with you, if I'm on an airplane, well you know. Tell me about you, rick. I think I don't dare.
Speaker 2:This flight ain't that long right.
Speaker 3:Oh, and they're not going to believe it. You know they're going to go, okay, thank you. All right, let me get to my book. You know I mean. Yeah, chapter one Yep, my book, you know, I mean, yeah, it's chapter one, yep, yep, well, that's that's an incredible story.
Speaker 2:That's an incredible story. I tell you what we are, what? Uh oh, 21.18 into this first segment. Let me take a break and when we come back I'd like to talk about the, the life after recovery. There you go, because, because you finished up my third question excellent, with the B17. And then, yeah, let's go into that. So stand by for Hot Cast. We're going to take a quick break and come back and let's hear the rest of this, so stand by.
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Speaker 2:O'Eddy's Whiskey, bourbon Sauce, the sauce that's worth the wait. Welcome back to Headcast. Rick Hill is with us. We have left the last segment before our break and we're going to talk about a whole different meaning, a different avenue. It's called Life After Recovery. After beating cancer, you went on to achieve remarkable things, rick. Recovery after beating cancer, you went on to achieve remarkable things, rick. You authored a book, you. You co-invented an air purifier years which is selling over 50 million. Is that correct?
Speaker 3:Yeah, we, we got lucky. I co-patented it and we took it to a great big company and we sold 50 million. Our first year or so that that was my home run.
Speaker 2:How did your experience with cancer shape your drive to success? You know everybody wants to know how.
Speaker 3:now Whether you knew it or not and I'm inclined to think you did know it you have hit on the most important part of this conversation. Okay, what?
Speaker 2:is that and that?
Speaker 3:is that remission is misunderstood. I see it all the time on Facebook Cancer people say I'm cancer free, I got my certificate. We're having a remission party this Saturday, bringing champagne, chocolate cake. I dodged that bullet and then three months later they're on Facebook going. I can't believe what I just heard. I am full of tumors again Because when the cancer comes back, it comes back like a lion. And if I could give your listeners one little piece of free advice, it's this Make a lifetime commitment to this. The cancer wants to live like every other cell in your body and it's going to hunt, it's going to change, it's going to, it's going to do what it can do. But if you keep, I take all the things that I took, but much less of it. Now, way Miller, like I'll only take this call will be recorded I'll only take, uh, you know, one Laetrile tablet.
Speaker 3:I'll eat some of the apricot seeds, maybe six, and I take the enzymes at 10 and 2 every day, you know, because I'm not trying to digest food with that, I'm trying to get rid of that protein coating. And then I take some B15, but a little bit. I mean a three-month supply is like 40 bucks, I mean it's nothing. But people won't do that. They want to go back to the life they were living when they got sick. They want to go drinking Friday night, they want to eat crap food and when they do that they're kicking the door open for round two. But I guarantee you round two is worse than round one. So I believed that when I left Tijuana and I started shopping in the health food stores I had to drive 40 miles to get to one. But I made the changes in my life. Get the one, but I made the changes in my life and I felt good and I looked okay and the whole thing and that kind of gave me that impetus to try new things.
Speaker 3:I was not voted the most likely to succeed. As a kid I stuttered badly. Honestly, I never got above a C minus or a D my entire post-college career pre-college career and I was not the guy you'd pick out of the line. You'd say, oh, he's going to make it, yeah, yeah, yeah, no. But this experience taught me that I can learn something new, get good at it and succeed wildly. And me, who stuttered for most of his life? I became a professional speaker, president of the Florida Speakers Association. People now would pay money to hear me talk. Nice. And this one little thing led to the next and I tried new things with the confidence that I'm lazarus. I walked out of the tomb totally well and I might be able to do that a few more times during my life. So it it was preparatory. Without a doubt, I'm probably a better guy because I went through it, but I don't know.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 3:Well, you've been a strong advocate. What?
Speaker 2:You've been a strong advocate for transparency and choice in cancer treatments. What changes would you like to see the medical community regarding the alternative therapies?
Speaker 3:Well, that's exactly where it's got to start. Bobby Kennedy. The first time he ran across that stage at the RNC convention, I turned to my lady and said that's a Kennedy. Like what's going on in this world.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and he's got two good things. He says he wants freedom of choice. He doesn't have to agree with me, he doesn't have to sign the thing that says laetrile really works. I just I had to smuggle laetrile out of tijuana. I had an underwear full of tablets when I walked across that border and I'm not a smuggler, I'm a grandpa that, you think, probably barbecues a lot if you saw me. Okay, yeah, I mean I just don't look like a tough guy. But Bobby said that he would work on freedom of choice. And then the second thing is he wants to revamp medical school and have organic nutrition to be a mainstay in the curriculum. Doesn't mean they don't do drugs. Doesn't mean they don't do surgery, but they most doctors. You sit down and you talk to them. They are clueless. I mean they go down to the drugstore and get some vitamin c and you don't get sick anymore. You know it's that kind of thing, right? Not a word about your diet. Not a word about food combination combinations, nothing okay so you, if he does that, kudos.
Speaker 3:Trump picked right on that one.
Speaker 2:Right, but not that I'm a big Obama supporter. But the only intelligent thing I ever heard of come out of his mouth was I thought change would be easier Now. This was on the Jay Leno show and I'm listening to this guy thinking you know it's not my pick, I mean, but you know I can ride both sides of the fence here and he said that and it rang a bit of truth. Obama actually rang some truth in my head and I said that makes a lot of sense because you know he's going to come in and change and you know all the political promises and all that crap. Now Trump's only got well his second four years 2.0. Is kennedy going to be around long enough to even enable these and to segue? What was your experience like in the oasis hospital and how did it differ from traditional medical care? Now, oasis, I suppose, is the south of the border one. Is that correct?
Speaker 3:yes, tijuana, right next to the bull ring at the ocean. So now you never forget that when you drive down there, there's a bull ring yeah, they cross the street.
Speaker 2:They don't have any uh planning like they do in the cities here. But I get you. But it's incredible how, how you would do that. I mean, is he gonna have enough time to make this change d kennedy?
Speaker 3:I agree with him 100 obama on this issue, because I know this. This sounds counterintuitive, but I think it was easier for me to make the changes because the threat level was high. The, the guy that struggles, the lady that struggles with change are the ones that are trying to lose 15 pounds and get off of, you know, diabetes medicine. They don't think of it as life threatening. Nothing's pressing them against the wall, and for me, I was playing with fire. Yeah, so I agree that change is hard, and I opened this segment by saying how many people have I seen die on Facebook Because they were unwilling to extend the change? Sure, they did it when they were at a clinic, but they got home and there was all those cupcakes in the cupboard and the Coca-Colas and all that stuff. And then they bought all this food that's grown with gly. You know the roundup and oh, yeah, yeah the monsanto crew yeah, oh geez, let's, you know, bring back the gallows.
Speaker 3:I'm telling you it's, it's termination by sophistication well, but you're getting that wrong.
Speaker 2:Wrong, aren't you? I mean, that's your life. How do you change when you change? But you had to, you had to had to or die, right.
Speaker 3:And you know, people come up to me after a seminar and they say you know, you guys make me sick. And I said, oh, I'm sorry, but why? Well, because you act like if we ever go to McDonald's, we're not even going to heaven. I said I never said that. I said, and I don't believe it, in fact, I think you're going to get there quicker.
Speaker 2:Try the veal.
Speaker 3:We're here all week. So you know, yeah, it's hard. But kudos and hats off to the 55-year-old lady or guy that says I'm going to revamp my life because I want to be here for my grandkids into my 80s and be able to walk them in the park. You're not going to get there by eating what you're eating now and doing what you're doing now. You've got to wake up and smell the coffee organic coffee, I hope. But clearly it's change, and boring change. Can you imagine I did this strict diet for five years. I mean didn't cheat. Can you imagine, in the fifth year when I bellied up to the table and said let's see vegetable salad or fruit salad and okay, we'll go with fruit? You know I'd hold my head and I'd say this is for a good cause and it tastes good. I'm glad to have it. But man, you know I want to slice a pizza right.
Speaker 2:Well, he also doesn't understand that the listeners here this worked for rick. Your particular situation might not work and you need to explore these options for yourself. Rick has not given his opinion on what you should do. He's given his opinion on what worked for him. Is that correct, rick?
Speaker 3:that's correct and that's why I threw in a couple of references to do a little research, you know, so that they get drug across the threshold of faith. Yeah, kicking and screaming.
Speaker 2:And books and legacy. You had a book Too Young to Die and the Cancer Conundrum.
Speaker 3:Yeah, too young to die is better, it's funnier, it's cheaper. I tell all these stories that I've told on your show and it's a story of hope. It ends with Reepicheep the mouse from Chronicles of Narnia. What people need? They need a cheerleader that says look, I did this, it was 50 years ago. I'm not guaranteeing anything's going to work, but I am saying it worked for me and here's a roadmap to it. It's 100 pages long. What do you want to do? Yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, go ahead.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, Well, they can get these three things that I talked about and my book if they'll log on to Richardson Nutritional Store rncstorecom in the little magnifying glass research, just type Rick my first name and a package will come up that's discounted and it's good for three months and they get a free book.
Speaker 3:Nice, I can't do more than that. They're not interested if that's not a good idea. But you even extend an additional discount for your listeners if they will type HUTCAST, like H-U-T-T, cast, c-a-s-t, and that's generous. A 10% discount over and above my discount is a good deal.
Speaker 2:And a caveat to that is PS HUTCAST does not make anything on this situation. If, in fact, if you do a HUT buy and you and they take that savings and apply it to your account, any of that money, if it goes anywhere, will not go to this show. It'll go to a charity of their choosing, not mine. So I want to make that ultra clear, because we're not in this for the money that's generous, that is generous.
Speaker 3:So yeah, it's a good deal and I believe in all three of the products that obviously save my life and they're not expensive and they're easy to take. No more injection. You know when you want to treat cancer Long before it starts, before it happens.
Speaker 2:So now you're on my next question. Yeah, you're like a roadmap. I got you, man, I got you. So you're 50 years cancer-free and someone newly diagnosed with cancer is going to have this emotional trauma. What would you tell them? When you're feeling so overwhelmed with this? What would be your first? Here's from the gut. I've lived this.
Speaker 3:It was something I mentioned about a third of the way through when I said your listeners are going to hear somebody that says, unless you believe and I say, do the research, it'll only take you a few days. And then follow your gut. If it sounds good and it sounds better than what you're doing now, or especially if they told you that you know your chances aren't too good, yeah, then follow your heart. But you know, commit, don't keep one foot in Egypt and one foot in Israel. Don't do that, right? You know, make up your mind where you're going and go and your friends. You'll lose friends.
Speaker 3:I mean, they call me up and they say, hey, we're going for shots and pizza tonight. Do you want to go? No, my doctor took me off that stuff. Oh yeah, that's right, you went down the rabbit hole. Well, I'm sorry, and my own family. They disowned me for a period of time and sometimes you kind of got to go alone. But you don't have to gin up and believe something. You have to just do something, but have it based on real. You know, make sure there's a little research behind it or a lot, and that it worked for other people I'm one of. I got a lady on my Facebook that was down there the same time I was, that had brain cancer and it spread to her spine and she's now in Key West Florida getting too much sun with too many grandkids. So I'm not your only guy. There's thousands of people out there like me. Uh, that's got good results, but you know what tim? They don't want to talk about it sure that's the way it is.
Speaker 2:They just want to keep it inside.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:They don't want to tell somebody I had cancer, yeah, I get that? I do get that, yeah, and they don't want to bother somebody else with their problems. How did they say it? A friend of mine once said you know, when you're hearing something about somebody's medical problems, you're so glad that it's there's a not yours and you're just. You know that's not the compassionate way to do this, but it's. It's the truth, I mean.
Speaker 3:I'm sure I'm human nature.
Speaker 2:I'm so glad it's you, not me, but I don't know.
Speaker 3:Right. Well, they should pretend compassion that they're going to get this diagnosis and it's a one in two chance. Now, thank you for turbo cancer. But the point I'm making is that they'll start now and buy the little pack that's called prevention. Then they're treating cancer. That may be future, but now, while there's no bonfire and that's what's smart that's a good investment. That's using your noggin instead of well, if I get cancer, I'll find out where Rick is and I'll call him Right? No, why wait? That's my question.
Speaker 2:Well, you do know that it's way cheaper to eat crappy than it's cheaper to eat holistic. What do you say to those people? You get a lot of people that listen to the show and I don't know their financial situation. They could be on a WIC program, they could be on state assistance, whatever that is, and I can buy a 12-pack of Ding Dongs cheaper than I can buy a holistic head of lettuce. You see where I'm going with that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I think there's a fallacy in that, in that if you're comparing apples with apples, figure out what you paid for that bag of chips and how much did it weigh and how much is in it. Yeah, but I agree, yeah. And then like, uh, but I agree, I think it's, I think it's, I think it's abusive that they'll say, well, we're not going to put chemicals in this food you're buying, so we'll charge you more. Right, right, what it didn't put them in there. You know, and, and they always and rfK does this all the time he'll hold up an American product of, let's say, fruit Loops. Then he'll hold up a European box of Fruit Loops. He'll say the European box has four ingredients, the American box has 20.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dissertation on the side of it, yeah, it's huge.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's what I want to get rid of and I wholeheartedly agree. But we're being charged more for the box without it if there is one in there in the store, and that's got to change.
Speaker 2:Fundamentally wrong, isn't it?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Now I get it. If it's products to market sooner because it's perishable, sooner you have trucking costs. I mean the whole chain of things. I get it takes time and time is money. But if you can get to market cheaper for a non-GMO something, wouldn't it make sense to do that instead of sucking in all these chemicals? Because in our daily lives we've talked to a number of doctors on this show and they want light therapy, and I've talked to a lot of guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But you know, sometimes you just got to pump the brakes and go whoa, why am I paying more for less?
Speaker 3:Well, tim, you're the hope of the future, and I don't mean that as a glib compliment, I mean it. The fact that I'm talking to you without fear of being arrested, without you know, without fear of my bank account being being, you know, grabbed, punished, yeah, means we're making progress, yes, and you're part of the solution.
Speaker 3:Well, I let people know, right, you're letting them know kudos to you, yeah you probably let what a hundred thousand people know, right, you're letting them know Kudos to you. Yeah, you probably let what 100,000 people know today what happened to me, or?
Speaker 2:I don't know how big are you, 45 million, at least plus. And that's worldwide, that's worldwide, all right 120 countries do it. Right, so you're going to get out there All right, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3:But more kudos to you then, because you could use that kind of clout not for good. You know you could get big pharma to pay you big money with that audience.
Speaker 2:Or to just shut up right.
Speaker 3:To promote the next vaccine, or you know, and you're doing the right thing. That wouldn't feel right though that wouldn't feel right, though it wouldn't feel right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, I mean, sometimes there's common sense and one of my big things on the show is common sense has still got to be around somewhere. Now you say you were from Minneapolis right at one time.
Speaker 3:I was living in New Ulm, minnesota. Probably no one's heard of that. It's a little. Harold Loffamacher and the Six Fat Dutchmen Okay, it was the best band they ever had, so that gives you a flavor.
Speaker 2:You're paying attention to what's going on here politically in the state.
Speaker 3:Yes, I am, and did you see the new mayor for Minneapolis. Who is that?
Speaker 2:We got Omar against the incumbent, fry Jacob Fry. I'm not in Minneapolis, I'm an underground bunker, far away from that crap as I could possibly get, and they have this new thing going on Now. We all knew that the Dems were going to start beating each other up. It was just when. Now, in our state which is kind of a mental state, when we have these things going on in the world and we don't want them in our state you've got the left beating up the far left and vice versa.
Speaker 3:So now we've got Well, when I lived there, we had to deal with Hubert H Humphrey.
Speaker 2:Oh sure, Well, it wasn't quite that radical then.
Speaker 1:No it wasn't, so now we've got a. Today is wild. Oh, it's incredible.
Speaker 2:Not that I want to pull politics in this conversation, but my point is sometimes you can't make this stuff up and the truth is more radical than what you can fathom. So sometimes public breaks who's the?
Speaker 3:idiot that said you're not going to own anything but be happy, yeah, I mean close, Wasn't that?
Speaker 3:Stalin? Well, originally, yeah, but now this, you know. Yeah, these guys are smoking something. And the population thing you know, I read a little book when I was in seminary, called the Myth of Overpopulation, by a theologian named Rush Dooney. And I'm telling you, I heard Elon Musk do a podcast the other day and he says we're in trouble. He said we don't have enough people in China or Japan or here in order to maintain civilization. He said it's reaching dangerous. And if you fly a lot, look out the window. The country's empty. Yeah, they're all packed into New York and California and Texas. But if you fly over the country and it's almost dark, look out the window. Yeah, they're all packed into New York and California and Texas. But if you fly over the country and it's almost dark, look out the window. Unbelievable it is, isn't it? We got room, come on in.
Speaker 2:So if we were to look forward, we were to look forward to this. We've talked our little bit of politics here and we know that I think we're on the same page. If we look forward, what's next in your mission to inspire, to educate others, the alternative cancer treatments? I mean, can we get a glimpse on what's going on next with you?
Speaker 3:I'm going to do two things. I'm going to change my speech my little pot, you know, my little PowerPoint, okay, and I'm going to talk about connecting the dots. Analyze your life right now. Do you see anything that should be avoided in the future? And now is the time to take the good steps in the future. And now is the time to take the good steps so it never really happens.
Speaker 2:Kind of like a dead doctors don't lie program.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:Yep Prevention and that instead of me getting up and saying, if you've got cancer, I know how they got it. Look what happened to me. I'm switching gears and saying wouldn't it be nice if we could get to a place in our society like the Hunzas that lived to be 120, 130 years old? No cancer, teeth are all there.
Speaker 2:Eyesight, you know you can see, you can pee, you can do all that right.
Speaker 3:It's available, okay, but not with our current approach and education, and I need to be a part of that.
Speaker 2:Interesting, very courageous of you.
Speaker 3:Well, all of a sudden, I thought, you know, I'm trying to reach people with cancer and I thought what are the odds? The odds are really a lot better to take people in their youth and say here's how you're never going to deal with that garbage, you know.
Speaker 2:I think our youth is confused on where they should go bathroom.
Speaker 3:It would never occur to me to think it's a great thing to go into a ladies' room. In fact, when I was in France as an exchange student, they had these outdoor biffies that you had to pay a few you know a little bit of money to get into, and I sat down in one of them. I looked over and there's a lady with her nylons rolled down next to me. It was not interesting, so awkward. It was not interesting, so awkward. I couldn't wait to get out of there, you know. So I don't get it. I mean, I'm just not designed that way, I guess.
Speaker 2:A difference in, you know, upbringing, right? Yeah, I mean we look at things differently. I mean I'm 58. I spend most of my life in my own room. It's my own world. You build it, you develop it, you do it, and some of these people some of these people's kids.
Speaker 3:It's just, it's incredible, isn't it? I don't know where it comes from. Well, you know, I had. I don't want to get political and I'll stop, but I had four vaccines the entire. I had four vaccines the entire time I grew up.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:Our little kids sometimes are offered as many as 40 or 50. Ooh, and I had advantages that they didn't have and I got terminal cancer Right. So it just shows you how fast things degenerated. And the foods that I could buy in a convenience store. When a kid you know big Coca-Cola bag of chips and some chocolate every day after school, well, that begins to take a toll, absolutely. But if kids would connect what they're doing today with the person they could become tomorrow. Find out what interests them. You want to be a musician? What Guitar? Okay, what if you could buy a $10,000 guitar? It would be wholly different than the one you're playing now. Well, the only way you can do that is to succeed today and do it again and again, and again and again and again and do the right thing, consistently better next time and you'll get that guitar.
Speaker 3:Yep, you know you'll. Yeah, that's where my shift is coming from nice.
Speaker 2:I used to tell my kids and grandkids here's how you not do it. Pay attention to these people who are doing it the wrong way. Let's learn from their mistakes and then not make our own. It's a crazy world, isn't?
Speaker 3:it Wasn't it King Solomon that said. I looked at the wall and the bricks were falling down and I learned what not to do.
Speaker 2:I learned what not to do.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there it is. There's a lesson in there, even though you think the wall looks crappy.
Speaker 2:I have had an absolutely interesting conversation today and I appreciate your time. I'm segueing to pull the pin because we've got to pull this off 29 into this one. Any last thoughts? Would you like to plug your book?
Speaker 3:29 into this one. Any last thoughts? Would you like to plug your book? Well, just go to RNC store like Rick, nancy, charlie, storecom and uh, and find the magnifying glass and type Rick, and, and you're going to give them not for you, but for them a 10% discount. And I would say kudos to Tim Hutton, because you are part of the solution today, not part of the problem, and if there are more of you, an army of you, we'll turn the tide.
Speaker 2:I consider myself just an observer, because you guys are the story. You guys are absolutely the story. I'm just here to report it, to read it, to listen to it. So you've lived it and I get the privilege of sitting here in my studio, in my underground bunker, which is kind of a cool studio, and just listen to these stories. Where else can you sit down and talk to me for an hour and go, man? I've lived a life on radio that you can't live back yeah, yeah, it's changed.
Speaker 3:Anyway, appreciate you and thank you for inviting me and I'm glad that I was here and good, good good on both of us yes, I was.
Speaker 2:I'm very much thankful. Uh, hudast is going to drop this episode tomorrow morning early when you check it out. It'll be available in all the countries, in all your podcast stations. We are on every one, and some I don't even know about. And if you want to reach out to him and hit that search engine on his site, please do and give him some muscle to make this work in his life.
Speaker 2:But for HuttCast thank you very much for coming on, thank you everybody else for listening and until next time. I know I've been off a little bit. It's been kind of a busy summer for us and we want to just thank you for being good listeners. I'm watching my downloads. You guys are rocking it again and we'll be back. So thank you again, stand by, and that's a wrap for HuttCast. Huttcast is again a pragmatic approach to seeing things how some people see them. If you like our show, give us a thumbs up on the Facebook site Again for HuttCast. Thank you again. Have a wonderful evening.
