Ashley On - Living and Evolving the Best Life with Guy Needler

Guy Needler is an old friend of the show and it was great to catch up with him once again.  We discuss how good it feels to lead by example in doing the right things and thus how one can use selfish desires to positively impact the world.  The body as a vehicle for our perpetual soul is another topic of conversation, along with the reality that we are all here to evolve.  So the entire point is to change and grow one's opinions based on wisdom.  Finally we discuss how good it feels to have a life philosophy whereby one always assumes others are doing the best that they can.  Try it!  Hope you enjoy the show.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:01

Welcome to Ashley On, your one-stop podcast where we talk about health and wellness, spirituality and all things new. Stick around as we delve deep into innovations to support a better world.

SPEAKER_02: 0:25

Hello and welcome to the show. Today's show is with Guy Needler. He's a friend of the show. We're always glad to catch up with Guy and talk about the state of ascension in our world. In this episode, we talk a lot about the need to lead by example and focusing on true positive value interactions to set us a good example and to also give a good vibration to the world. Primarily, we talk, you know, why should we do this? Well, doing right feels good. It's pretty... pretty basic selfish reason to help benefit society. We talk a little bit more about the body being a vehicle and that we are perpetual, the body's temporary. And that to evolve is why we're here. So, you know, changing your opinions, evolving with more insight and wisdom and changing, again, changing positions on certain things is why we're all here, right? So I think that's something that we should all keep in mind and is a key theme in this episode as well, along with the reality that if you can find it in your heart to view the world differently, in that others are doing the best that they can as a philosophy of your life, your life will be more happy. So I hope you enjoy the show. It's a great one. Guy, Guy Needler is always fun to talk to. Thank you. Today's show is brought to you by Morrison Alley, morrisonalley.com. You can learn more about their consulting offerings that they offer. Morrison Alley is focused on corporate leadership development services around developing enterprise executives at Fortune 100 companies and providing analytical services and fractional marketing services to B2B and B2C firms of all sizes, which is the area of the business that I focus on. Really comes down to strategy plus leadership plus AI technology equals growth. And you've got to be strong in all of those areas in order to compete effectively these days. Thank you so much. We'd just love to catch up. I mean, my agenda is really pretty simple with you. It's like, what's new, right? I'm excited to hear what you've been working on lately, and we can kind of go from there and take some different directions depending on what you share.

SPEAKER_01: 3:02

Okay. Well, really, I mean, the latest thing we've been working on is The World at Sangerbox, which we've got a fifth book we're working on right now, and I've got to upload a load of lectures meditations that aren't on YouTube onto YouTube to sort of supplement the information that's on the book or going to be on the book because we're going to provide links for people to actually listen to the meditations that are part of the book and some of the lectures are part of the book. So we're working on that. So I've got about 28 lectures and meditations that are part of the back catalogue to sort of put on YouTube that aren't currently on YouTube. So they're, you know, But they spread out over the last, well, basically from 2021 all the way back to about 2013. So there's a little bit of work to do.

SPEAKER_02: 3:51

What have you, in terms of that work, what are you most excited about? What stands out as most exciting to you and most important?

SPEAKER_01: 4:00

Well, this is basically just, it's me giving lectures on things that basically come to mind. Those things that have come to your consciousness that you know you've got to talk about. then there's questions and answers that came from all that that still do come from all over the world and then we have a meditation normally made based upon the lecture but not always and so really it's about you know a mixture of lectures meditations and questions and answers but there's the meditations questions and answers that i find quite very very very interesting but from the really fast both from the reader's perspective is the question that answers on because We're starting to find now that towards the end of the last, we've been going now for 12 years, it's an appropriate time for it to finish because everything's based on 12 in the multiverse, bizarrely enough. And it's sort of like the questions are starting to go in a circle. So people are starting to ask the same questions that will be sort of three or four years later, not the same people, of course, but it's the same sort of thing keeps coming out. So although there's a few questions that are, sort of new news, so to speak, and the answers are therefore new. In reality, the vast majority, about 95% of what we're starting to receive now is starting to become sort of repetitious in terms of the questions and answers. So there's a few gems that are coming out. Although, having said that, I mean, in terms of the thought processes that are coming out, specifically in today's world, there's a few things that are really quite interesting in terms of How do we elect our leaders? How do we behave as supposedly advanced and mature civilisation? And so there's things that have come up literally in the last two or three months that have shown us that if we're going to elect leaders that are basically going to make our decisions for us because we've chosen them, because we trust them, then there has to be some form of checksum events that allows a system that is, if you like, aside from or not part of or completely neutral from the electress, so to speak. So that if we end up with a number of individuals who really aren't capable, but they've got there for whatever reason because the electress put them there, then there needs to be some form of checksum in place that says, okay, know these people aren't really capable of governing us in some way shape or form so they would be basically told that they can't go any further and they'll be put to one side and then we'd invite new individuals to come along now that might be a group of individuals who are again party to their own electoral process but are completely neutral to the election process that's in the that's in the location the country you know, the hemisphere that they're part of, or it might be a piece of software that it is, you know, it might be a piece of, shall we dare to say, artificial intelligence that, you know, that can look at the psychology of the individuals, the education, the capability, the leadership potential, you know, the charisma, you know, all these different things, you know, what they've achieved, you know, how they've been a service to mankind, you know, between, you know, the point in fact where their career is to where they are now. And they will make the decision for us in a completely neutral and a side way so that we don't start to choose individuals because we like them. We choose them because they're actually capable of doing the job properly. And that's one of the interesting things that's come out of it, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 7:45

Yeah, well, it's top of mind, right? I mean, I think we're all... feeling a little bit vulnerable right now in terms of what, uh, what our future holds with, with the lack of leadership that we're seeing. Right. Um, so I, I guess I'm encouraged that this is coming up more, um, in, in what you're dealing with and the people you're dealing with and all about, you know, kind of a collective consciousness because, um, you know, some of the things I see with, with people, they just, they just blindly follow whatever their favorite team is, um, regardless of any independent thought or processing as to what really the right decision criteria should be

SPEAKER_01: 8:30

yeah well on top of this there's like a progression from it i mean this this um this idea of having to check some effect or the individuals for instance if there's 12 individuals and they all say yes this person's capable but one says actually no then That makes you think whether they followed the sort of like the collectivism rule rather than sort of, hang on, they're all being sheep or whatever. And therefore they're not really understanding what's going on in the background. If one person does, then maybe that one person is not being blinded by the others or coerced by the others in some way because maybe they're charismatic. And therefore you've got the potential to have somebody say, whoa, let's put the brakes on. I'm not seeing what you're seeing. Why are you seeing it? Why are you seeing it? Oh, I'm following him. Ah, you shouldn't be following him. You should be thinking independently. And so there's that part of it that comes into it as well. It's the independent thought process that I'm finding really quite intriguing because if we have a true level of maturity as a civilization that is with us from an independent, individual perspective, then, you know, If we have a series of rules, regulations, laws, if you like, or ways of being or ways of existing that we recognise as being the mark of a mature advanced civilisation, one that's capable of going further and moving off the planet, for example, or moving up the frequencies from a spiritual perspective, then do we need leaders? Do we need to have individuals who are putting, you know, exalted positions to govern us if we are governing ourselves in a mature way where we're thinking about you know not only ourselves but the collective first the collective of mankind first you know what's my choice and what's my decision process now going to do to those around me how's it going to affect them how's it going to affect me how's it going to affect the environment you know how's it going to affect their their thought processes in the future And so we start to think about moving away from this idea of having the correct checks in place to make sure we've got the right type of leaders to being our own leadership role at all different levels. And therefore, we start to get the dawn of collectivism, not communism, collectivism, where we're thinking not only in an individualized, independent way, but that way is considering it's going to affect others and the environment and the circumstances and the thought processes downstream and that for me is that's a key point a key milestone if you start to think about in starting to think in these ways and if i'm thinking about there's other people in my level sort of thinking about it as well and if we are thinking this way then we're starting to move away from this idea of You know, we elect individuals as leaders and those individuals can be corrupt or can start to lose their state of service, of leadership and become, you know, they want to be in power all the time rather than letting others, you know, take over. So how would we... It's interesting.

SPEAKER_02: 11:44

I love the conversation. How would we unwind? Like the opportunity, I think, just to hear you say this, because I've been thinking similar things. I talk to people and... I don't, you know, I'm not plugged into the collective consciousness to a degree like you are, right? So I find this very optimistic and encouraging that this is what's happening in terms of the total vibration of the world. But, you know, taking just the United States as an example, you know, we have a completely corrupt system. You know, probably 80 to 90% of the people that are our leaders, quote unquote, are corrupt, right? How do we unwind that? Are you picking up anything there? Is there any talk or chatter or ideas that you're having in that situation?

SPEAKER_01: 12:42

It's going to take a quantum leap in the way we think, behave and act collectively to actively decide actually no we don't need to have a prime minister we don't need to have a president we don't need to have a king or a queen or a governor or an emperor or a senator but we are capable of collectively working together and and doing these things and it's going to be a not going to be it's difficult to describe but it's almost going to be something that happens to us on our conscious level and you know i sent our sentence where we decide that yeah we've We're fed up with this way of existing, which is not actually working, where we're allowing ourselves to proliferate too much, i.e. the population is too great in the world to support it. We start to consider that we need to understand that, and I guess this is the milestone, When we start to understand that we're not the human body, that the human body isn't us, and therefore we are in a selfish position where we're trying to perpetuate existence for as long as possible in the most comfortable and affluent materialistic way as possible, we start to realize that we are perpetual and we understand these on a fundamental basis, not just in an academic basis where we think, okay, I believe this because this individual's got all, you know, I've given this individual authority in terms of that thought process and therefore I choose to believe them. they actually experience something that you might want to call is an out-of-body experience or something prolonged that gives them the understanding that their sentiences or there's what we call the soul is perpetual and is part of a larger volume of sentence and that larger volume of sentence is part of another larger volume of sentence that we start to recognise that the body is just a vehicle, like a motor car, like a hire car. You know, when we go somewhere, if we haven't got a vehicle, we hire a vehicle, we use it, and sometimes people abuse them, and then we take them back, and that's it, and we go and do whatever we're doing. When we start to understand that on a fundamental basis, then the need for having a governing structure is no longer required, because we start to understand that collectively, the sentience starts to connect in the triangulating type of function or the direct line triangulation or volumetric triangulation and we start to think behave and act not in a hive mind where we lose our individualized free will but a way where we we still have our individualized free will but it's considering the you know the collective functions as i've previously said but that's got to come from a higher level of knowledge or experience where we start to realize that the body is not where we are. And we know that we can exist beyond the body. And therefore, there's a reason to be here and that's to evolve. And if we're behaving in a way which is not consistent with the optimal level of evolutionary progressional content associated with our interactions with each other and the circumstances we create within the environments within which we exist within, then we start to work in a way which is really of a higher, mature, civilized, advanced way that's going to allow us to ascend the frequency.

SPEAKER_02: 16:05

And

SPEAKER_01: 16:07

ultimately, to the point where we've mastered incarnation because we'll have understood how to be in the physical but not be of the physical and be addicted to the physical

SPEAKER_02: 16:19

so that that's excellent guy i um you know it i'm thinking it makes me think of some of the things that i've read and talked to people about um well, what is it, you know, what, what is the great awakening mean, right? Like, what is that? Um, you know, and that goes into conversations around, you know, how does it even occur? Is that triggered by the sun and systems of light that, that, that are triggering this? And, but, but even just sticking with the point of what is it, um, you know, one of the things that sticks out to me that, that I've learned and that I associate with it, whether it's right or wrong, I don't know, but, um, that it's basically, we're, we're moving toward a, um, a system and an existence and a reality where we don't even, we can't even comprehend the negative choices, like making a choice to where it would hurt someone else. Like we were getting, we're moving toward a position where that choice will not even manifest itself in our, in our thought process. Is that, am I on the right track there? I'm just trying to help bridge the gap here with what I've heard and also helps the audience understand a little bit more in depth of what we're talking about here.

SPEAKER_01: 17:24

Yeah, it's a state of beingness where that type of thought process is outside of our consideration, our psyche. Let me give you an example. Most individuals will not consider the fundamentals of the downward spiral that could occur to them karmically by throwing the sweet wrapper out the car window. because that's the start point. Something as simple as that is a start point of thinking, well, I don't need to sort of take the rubbish out of my car, pull the trash out of my car and put it into a bin properly. I can put it out the window because it's somebody else's job to clean up after them. If we start to take responsibility for ourselves and that state of beingness starts to create a condition within ourselves where we feel good about ourselves and we understand that when we do the right choices, it actually makes us feel better that we are better that we attract those around us who are also the same thought process then you know rather than collecting together to um be a similar similar mind or or process to see for instance a football team or a hockey team or a or a cycling club or a rock group or a you know or a golfing professional these people that we sort of decide to follow because They give us a, if you like, a horizon line to head for, you know, a state of beingness or wealth. But we start to think, well, actually, we don't need to have these icons because we're our own icon, provided we let ourselves go down that road. And actually, when we do go down that road, okay, it's a bit of a battle at first. You know, do I open the window to put the sweeper up ahead? Do I drop it in the car? Or do I leave it where it's supposed to be, in the sweep wrapper packet? And then the sweep wrapper packet gets thrown in the bin properly at home. So it's making that choice and consistently making those choices and how it makes us feel better is going to be the start point of the cascade. And as we do it, and people say, well, why are you so happy? And you explain why you're being happy. And they go, well, I fancy some of that because I'm really quite miserable and frustrated right now. And so doing the right thing, it must create some level of endorphin response within the brain. And energetically, there must be something that creates that level of physical response. And so if we can lead by example, then people start to catch on that that person's happy. I want to be as happy as that person. What are you doing? It's not creating a cult, it's creating a change in thought process.

SPEAKER_02: 20:13

Yeah, it's excellent. I couldn't be more excited about what you're saying. I mean, it's hard not to get discouraged, right? I mean, I just, I don't, I don't try not to watch the news. I really just don't want to get that programming, you know, be, be associated with that. It was on this morning when I walked through the kitchen, uh, cause my wife was trying to check out the weather and, you know, I just get, get this programming of this horrible negativity of all this stuff that's going on here in Denver, Colorado. And, um, it's really hard, right. With the media and everybody that's so interested and intrigued by those negative headlines and that negative click bait. And, um, it's the fear and the anxiety is just, it's constantly being pushed. Um, And so I know a lot of our listeners are listening to this and they're thinking to themselves, yeah, this would be great, but is this real? When's this going to happen, right? Do we need someone to come down from the stars to get our attention? Do we need the second coming of Christ? Whatever your belief system may be, do we need something like that to trigger this? Because it's just so negative, right? What do you say to that?

SPEAKER_01: 21:31

Well, The second coming of Christ isn't a person coming along to save us. It's us saving ourselves internally. I believe

SPEAKER_02: 21:40

that too.

SPEAKER_01: 21:41

We're purified. To be Christian needs to be purified. And when John the Baptist used to wash the sins away of the individuals who came to be taught by him and therefore his colleague Jesus, he was basically saying, you can start again now. Forget what happened in the past.

UNKNOWN: 22:02

Start

SPEAKER_01: 22:02

again as a fresh individual you're now purified and to be christian to be purified so the second coming of christ is us collectively starting to think in a pure way rather than a negative materialistic way it is so super easy to go down the karmic route of gossip and talk about somebody else and go against them because we're entering into a level of group communion you know a common process, we've got a common subject to talk about. Let's talk about X down the road who's probably overweight or, you know, he's struggling to walk or isn't, you know, doesn't have a nice car or a new car, he's driving a 25-year-old car around. You know, all these different, or doesn't mow the lawn every week, you know. All these different things are the things that we sort of snap upon. I think, okay, yeah. And we go into it without even thinking about it. You know, it's It's like falling asleep. And that's basically what we are doing. We're falling asleep. We're falling asleep and going down the frequencies because we choose to be part of the collective and the subject that keeps the collective together in a negative way is gossip. Any form of gossip, whether it's about an individual, whether it's about a circumstance, whether it's about an accident, whether it's about a, you know, um state of the weather you know if it's negative and we we tend to gravitate towards it easier so what we need to do is people who are a bit more a bit more aware and awake is to change it over and say you know well i don't choose to talk negatively about people always see something positive in people okay they might have these traits but at the end of the day they're a soul and they're struggling through their incarnation and they're struggling to exist in a low frequency environment which is bombarding them every day every second of every hour of every day with the potential to gain karma gain addiction to being here or have to work out karma in another life and and if we can help them in some way by by showing them love or understanding and then not by educating them fully on yeah not like i'm saying you should be think behaving acting this way but shown by example again they say well why are you happy you know well i'm doing this and i'm doing that ah does it make you feel happy well yeah because i'm feeling refreshed and i'm feeling that you know i've got a function in the world and i'm evolving as a funk is a state of it and that's when you start to see so-called felons or criminals who might um even in the even in in prison they have they're having these aha moments maybe they've seen something or they've experienced the thought process with themselves and they realize that you know not only can they make a difference to themselves maybe they can make a difference to other people by by changing the way that they are and it makes them feel better and because and making them feel better makes them go up the height in the higher frequencies it's not egotistical it's just a state of beingness. We feel better and we feel lighter when we're in a higher frequency. And so being a good example is the best teacher of all.

SPEAKER_02: 25:16

Yeah, it's interesting. It also reminds me of something else that I've recently noticed. Not you know, don't, don't really like to look back in life because, you know, I think a lot of the experiences we have get us to where we are, right? You realize certain things about what you did or didn't do, and it evolves you, um, as a spiritual being. But one of the things that, uh, I've been thinking about lately that I wish I would have known when I was younger, um, is just a, it's more of a philosophical, um, it's exactly kind of, I think it's in line with what you're saying, but it's, it's, if you look at people in situations, um, And if your default is the people are doing the best they can, if you default there as opposed to those a-holes are doing this and they're trying to get me this way, it changes the entire perspective and you feel better about your life. It's such a much better way to assume that when things happen that those people are doing the best they can and they, they just don't know for whatever reason, or they've got other things that they've got to do, like whatever it is, like somebody cuts you off in traffic, somebody, you know, is, is rude to you or fires you from your job or all, all kinds of things. If you, if you can get to the point where, at least for me, I found this to be helpful. If I can get to that point where I can assume and get to that default and I'm not perfect at it, it's, it's, it's a constant battle. Um, but I'm getting a lot better at it. Um, that I feel better, right? And I think that that, you know, I think that that helps the world because I'm not releasing that low vibration anger and even thinking it, right? If you can just get to immediately, because even thinking that stuff isn't the best thing for our collective consciousness, as I understand it.

SPEAKER_01: 27:11

That's right. I mean, if we think negative thoughts, even though we might not broadcast them vocally, then that energy sort of is broadcast around and is picked up by us and we start to sort of get absorbed by it or absorb it. So without doubt, the opportunity to be the good example is the way not only to help us evolve, it helps others evolve because we learn by example. If you look at how everybody learns by example, Okay, we go to school, we go to college, we go to university, maybe we do doctorates, PhDs, maybe become professors, et cetera, et cetera. But at the end of the day, the fundamental learning point is when we're in the womb. The soul is attaching itself to the embryo, getting more acquainted with that particular vehicle as it starts to grow. And whilst it's starting to grow, they're hearing the mother's thoughts, they're hearing the father's thoughts, the potential sibling's thoughts, and other things that are affecting them. And then when it's born, they start to go through the process of being educated by, you know, they listen to the way in which the parents and the siblings, if they've got them, are communicating to each other. So they learn speech. And they learn mannerisms. They learn likes and dislikes based upon the circumstances and the likes and dislikes and the way that parents think, behave and act. I mean, how many times have individuals started a career because one of their parents was doing that career. Doctors become doctors because their parents are a doctor. Or they become scientists or engineers. And certainly, both me and my brother became engineers because my father was an engineer. And we went down that route. I know people all over the world who've become lawyers because their parents are a lawyer. Or because they had an older sibling who was going down that road. So we tend to gravitate towards that which we know. So if we can create a condition where we're not being educated to do things wrong because one, our parents are out of work, or two, they're on drugs, or three, they're felons, that we're educated to go in that direction. There ought to be something involved where if that's the case, then there ought to be a different level of um interaction with people to change the education process from going that way to going that way and therefore the when we start to get that and we start to get the leading by example and education by example routine going which creates the start of collectivism then we've got the chance of moving away from the the mass level of negative thought process and materialism that we get in there worldwide and people start to think in the collective function instead it's going to take three or four generations but if you know if you're starting to think that way independently i am others as well then it's starting to you know starting to permeate the the overall human psyche and the things that are happening around the world now People are starting to object it. This isn't the way we want you to govern us or the way we want to live. We want to be able to think, behave, and act in a way which is going to be of benefit to us, allow us to have a nice life, but also allow us to have a nice life as well, which isn't a materialistic thought process. It's a state of, I suppose, nirvana on earth where we all That's right. Peace on

SPEAKER_02: 31:01

earth, right? Why not peace? It's such an obvious desire, I think. And I think more and more it's becoming that way. And I'm trying to figure out how to transition this conversation into another area. And I think one of the things that I've been learning a lot about And I read a recent post that you had posted about something similar too. So it's this idea that there are, you know, and I don't want to, I'm not trying to sensationalize it for our audience. I'm not trying to scare anybody. You know, it's kind of a tough conversation. But there are, in my understanding, there are entities, incarnates, spirits, beings, things that are outside of our true selves that are constantly trying to, um, occupy either our body or our energy fields to, to survive, I guess, or to get that energy. Um, can you, and I read something that you had posted recently about, um, These were called demons back in the day, and then these demons were encountered by, you know, Jesus had some experiences where he cured people, and I think some of the conversation that you had in this post was around him being able to basically remove these incarnates or entities from these other people's fields, and that was the cure, so to speak. Yeah. I guess as I learn about this, it opens up a lot of questions. How can we as individuals protect our bodies and our containers from being parasitic entities or spirits, whatever they may be? And the second part of that is if this is the way that it is, then doesn't that mean probably this is the problem with our leaders, right? Our leaders may be overcome with these sorts of negative influences and therefore may be immune to this evolution of positive thinking that we just discussed. Am I onto something here? Can you just give me a reaction to this?

SPEAKER_01: 33:20

It's well understood within certain spiritual, I was going to call them circles, levels of understanding that there are entities that exist that we call astral entities. that exist as a function of the sort of Darwinian evolution of energy over a long period. And there's those that are created by our negative thoughts when we just think negative thoughts about somebody or we think that, you know, I wish this person would this or that. So we're quite powerful sentient entities and we can create these things. Now, they exist in frequency levels above where we can see with our physical eyes. and so they exist in the fourth fifth sixth and seventh frequencies now the ones that are in the fifth the sixth and seventh frequencies they're they're less likely to try to overtly take energy from us because basically the astral entities that although they're created they have a they're a bit like a battery can record that they have their own energy for for a time and then they have to take energy from somebody else or something else that can be any sort of any any vehicle has got a sentience aspect to it, such as the soul of some sort. And so these entities are above our visual range, but they're still in a range where other body types can be incarnated into. In the physical universe, there's another line of levels. The first three levels, where we are right now, are to create the gross physical. Scientists call it the third dimension, but in my understanding, that's wrong because dimensions or full dimensions are much higher pieces of structure. What they're using is a description for volume, which is height, one dimension, width, another dimension, and depth, another dimension. The drawing, for example, understanding volume. But these These entities can be in these levels. And we can have other body types in these higher levels as well. So there's nine levels above that. I mean, Dolores Cannon talks about the next level being the new Earth, but I thought it would be people would leave this one Earth and go into that Earth. Well, the answer is yes and no. They're not two Earths. It's the same Earth, but higher frequency. So individuals who go into that Earth tend to, through ascension and good living processes, good service-based living processes, are still there. They're still on Earth. And individuals of that level would observe them, perceive them. But people on the lower levels wouldn't because they've been above their visual range. And the visual range is a function also of the use of the spiritual third eye. So there's two things happening there. Now, from that perspective, there's obviously body types that we as sentients can be incarnated into and all the different frequencies associated with the physical universe. But there's these entities which come which are created through the Darwinian evolution of energy and our aggressive thought processes against individuals that need to continue their existence by taking energy from people. So they take energy from the auric layers, which are basically the waste product of the metabolisation of energies from the chakras, which are energy receivers, and the associated energy templates that create the possibility of the manifestation of a body form, which in this instance is the human body. So they can take energy from us and they can occupy us. And they sometimes create a command and control condition where they're governing the thought process of the host, for example. You know, the so-called person who's been told by demons to do this or do that. On the other side, they can create a synergetic effect where the individual can be given a feeling of power or coercive ability or charisma or leadership role because the entity is giving away a little bit of energy that makes them attractive to others. So there are times when entities create this synergy with their host, and they coexist together because they're benefiting each other. But there's also conditions where we can overindulge in certain things, such as drugs or alcohol, where the body becomes too low frequency for the soul to stay in it. So the soul has to get out temporarily. In this instance, there are other souls that have finished their incarnation, but they haven't quite understood that they've finished their incarnation, and or they're addicted to some of the experiences of being in the incarnate vehicle, such as, again, experiencing drunkenness or experiencing drugs, that sort of stuff. So they can move into the body because the primary animating soul is no longer there. And so that's when you get a change of personality involved with somebody who's drunk because there's another soul in there. But the other soul is usually angry or frustrated because it can't stay there all the time and the energies start to become, and the frequencies associated with those energies that are the body, start to become disharmonious to them. So there's a bit of a fighting going on because this soul shouldn't be in that body unless it's a walk-in, a walk-in soul that's had the walk-in pre-planned before the incarnation starts, for example. Then we see souls coming in and out. Sometimes you get like an accident and the personality changes because the soul that's taken the body to that point in maturity has decided that's the time to leave. And then the soul comes in because it doesn't want to go through the gestation process or the education process, those sorts of things. So you get souls can walk in in an aggressive function because the body's disharmonious because they're taking your drugs or having too many too many beers or whiskeys etc etc and they've got those that can come in as a part of a part of the plan on the other side you have bodies that have more than one soul and because of the function they have to do now there's a number of different leaders in the world who've got more than one soul in the body and although they're not the the primary animating soul they're there to give the animating soul advice on how to experience or how to work with different circumstances or different leadership roles for example presidents might do or prime ministers or kings might do certainly those individuals who are in leadership roles when there's a significant function to do like in war times those sorts of things they'll have to you know make people work together in a in a way which is unseen normally i mean how many people you know would willingly go to the war you know the potential to not come back a great potential to not come back lots of people sort of volunteering to go into the army and the navy and and and the air force because they were they had seen the light of this this individual who was you know a very charismatic very charismatic leader that charisma and also the leadership qualities might not be specifically associated with one soul but other souls within the same body now In the average sense, not in the specific sense of a body type being used to be a great leader, it's not uncommon, not every day, that there's more than one soul in the body, naturally, because there's an agreement that, for instance, one soul would be the primary animating soul that's the soul that's experiencing the incarnation and interacting with individuals in the circumstances they create within the environments they create and the others are just experiencing the incarnation not interacting at all but there are times when maybe a soul or two or there's more than more than two more three maybe they get a bit enthusiastic and they want to participate and then you start to get instances where a person will start to talk to other individuals that aren't there, or they're hearing voices in their minds and they're arguing against these voices and everything else, and maybe the one voice is saying, yeah, do this and do that, or experience this or experience that, and maybe that soul's taking over, actually doing it. So there's three basic scenarios there that describe where you've got astral entities taking over, influencing the individual, or in fact creating a synergetic effect, You've got souls that have left their incarnation, but they haven't left the frequencies of the earth. They're still thinking they're incarnate, or they're seeking to experience the sensations associated with incarnation. So they seek out individuals whose souls have left their bodies because they have become paralytic with drink or alcohol. they're passed out because the drugs may take over the body temporarily and then you've got the souls who are part of you know let's call them the backseat passenger souls who are experiencing the incarnation but not interacting with the incarnation who get a bit enthusiastic and trying to take over so so in that instance there's there's these different types of interaction with with souls and and entities and the the blog that's um i sent out which is a which was basically a a question and answer between myself and Ulla Sarmiento of bigpicture.com who we work together on doing the Satsanga books we've managed for probably 11 years now I suppose asked these questions so I gave these answers I actually did a recording she transcribed and she said these are good and she gives these wonderful blogs they're far superior to mine they're really superbly illustrated and she said you know do you want to try to blog it so I'll blog it and then obviously make a point of who's done it. So he worked together quite well. But it's interesting that the examples that she was working on, which were examples of the life of Jesus in terms of he removed demons from three different entities. One was Mary Magdalene, one was an aggressive individual wielding a knife in the marketplace or something. I think the other one was a it was a young adult who had to be struck down the bed because the the soul was trying to take over and it was interesting that what i picked up and i mean i think the from where they got it from was a i think it's a program called chosen week it's another way of depicting the life of jesus i think yeah yep um it's interesting that these examples are actually not just examples of jesus removing these entities and he would have had to have done a significantly larger amount of work than just say you know leave her or leave him there'd be a lot more a lot more energetic work to do than that um but there are good examples of the different types in way which entities can in in fact interact with us synergetically or not as the case may be and how different souls can interact with us in a non-corporal way

SPEAKER_02: 44:42

very interesting so if whenever i hear your description of that it makes me think of um there's a There's a gentleman here in the United States by the name of Bob Lazar, who used to work at Area 51. I don't know if you've heard of Bob.

SPEAKER_01: 44:59

Yeah, I know Bob Lazar. Don't know him personally, but I know of him and what he was experiencing.

SPEAKER_02: 45:05

So the clip that I'm referring to is when Bob, they ask him about religion. And I really liked Bob's response. response because he doesn't put any hypotheses or you know it may be this or that he just states the facts of he said there was a file you know about three or four inches thick that he was privy to um when he was working there um at area 51 and it was on religion and they you know the the commentator asked him about this on the video that i saw it's like okay well what did you learn and bob says it just says that we're containers And that, you know, and so then the commentator is like pushing him on that. What does that mean? What does it mean? He's like, you know, you can make it mean whatever you want, but you asked me what the files said, and the files say that religion was created simply to help us have a reason to protect the containers that we're in. What are your thoughts on that? How does that work? know how you know what where's the accuracy in that what what are your um differences of opinion there

SPEAKER_01: 46:15

i was starting with the word i think i'm not gonna be more accurate than that

SPEAKER_02: 46:19

yeah

SPEAKER_01: 46:19

yeah in my experience in my experience all religions have the same root but with a different uh voice of authority to explain how to maintain connectivity with who and what we really are whilst we're in a low frequency environment. So how to stay high frequency and therefore maintain our communicative bandwidth. On top of that, you start to realise that that's also teaching us that we're not the body, that the body is a container, a vehicle, to allow us to navigate around the environment that we're in. In this instance, it's the earth. And so How to maintain the vehicle, how to interact with the vehicle and how to maintain the interaction at the right level with other individuals in their containers is a way in which we can maintain our higher frequency. How to maintain our higher frequency, we maintain our communicative bandwidth, which means we know who we are and what we are, even though we're in a low frequency environment. So it's a little bit like scuba diving. When we go scuba diving, We lose most of our senses apart from our hearing. Our hearing is the only thing that really, really stands out. Because sound in water, I think it travels 30 times faster than the air. I might be wrong with that. So don't hold me over the cold. It's wrong. But being a diver, I seem to remember that's about what it is. But we start to lose colour in our eyes. We lose feeling in our hands because the skin gets waterlogged. And of course, we can't smell. We've got a diving mask on. And the only thing we can taste is the salt water. So we start to become monochromatic in most of our senses. So we're losing a lot of our communicative ability with our environments because the senses are part of how we interact with the environment and how we navigate around it. We can't speak because we're having to breathe through an aqualung. So we can't breathe the water. There's suggestions that we might be able to, but we can't breathe the water. So that's an example of being down in a low frequency environment. But being in a higher frequency environment is like being in the air where we normally are, and therefore we can use our five senses and body language to be able to communicate, and intuition, of course, to be able to communicate with other individuals who are in the air. So the ability to maintain a high frequency state in a low-frequency environment. And the different ways we can do that, mindfulness with Buddhism, Christianity by being of service to each other and teaching others how to be. We've got similar things with Islam and Judaism. They're all different ways of explaining the same thing. But the different teachers are a different specialism, basically, that still led to the same thing. The problem is... over the years the quality of the teacher has disappeared and the ability to be able to broadcast what they are experiencing themselves have disappeared because they're not experiencing it anymore and then it becomes a control medium so the religions are basically you know completely out of context from what they were originally designed to do which is to help us maintain our higher frequency in one particular way that a particular master understood. And therefore, we can maintain our communicative ability and know who and what we are. And in doing that, it allows us to understand that the body, the container, is simply a vehicle to allow us to navigate around the earth. So you can see that what Bob Lazar was saying in very basic terms is that he understood that from the information that was there, that the body is just a container for a volume of sentience, which is experiencing a lower frequency environment, i.e. us in a diving suit experiencing a lower frequency environment, which is being under the water.

SPEAKER_02: 50:26

That's great. And it kind of takes us back full circle, which is, you know, we just need to get more people realizing that making the right choices feels better. Because if it feels better, then we do more of it, right?

UNKNOWN: 50:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 50:40

I mean, if we started to know, not feel or believe, but know that we are perpetual and everything we do is done in the right way, provides a level of evolutionary acceleration, and therefore we start to increase our evolution to the point where we no longer need to be here, then wouldn't we think behaviour act in a more mature way? Let's help each other, climb the ladder. I mean, look at how, when we have environmental catastrophes, people don't worry about whether the person that's helping them is a criminal. And the criminal doesn't bother about whether the person that's helping them is a doctor or a lawyer. You're all helping each other get out of trouble. You're all clubbing together. You're all helping each other move people out of the rubble to save the baby, to save the dog, to save the cat. you know, to move away from the fire. If it's a bushfire, for example, we all work together, not with the COVID-19. You know, we've had COVID. There was a whole community working together, albeit in a correct spacing process, to help each other in our everyday life. You know, people would go to the shops and help people who couldn't go to the shops because they were isolated, for example. We were working collectively together. We were working in a collective way. We were starting to have experience collectivism again. The unfortunate thing was it didn't last long enough to get it ingrained in our psyche. So we very quickly came back to the individual states of selfishness, basically. But we start to see, again, strife that the people in Gaza are experiencing. And they're all working together because they're experiencing something which they're collectively experiencing, not just one or two are experiencing. So they're all helping each other out. And so when we start to think that know these are these events are they're designed to help us stop focusing ourselves and start focusing on all of us we've all got to help each other because if i help them they'll help me etc then we start to see that again we come around the full circle again where if we start to think behave and act in a collective way not a hive mind but a collective way then we're going to descend the frequencies and move beyond the need to be here

SPEAKER_02: 53:02

Yeah, I think that's a great spot to wrap up. Guy, I really appreciate your time. It's always awesome catching up with you. And I think let's end there on that positivity because that's what it's all about, right?

SPEAKER_01: 53:14

Exactly. Why be negative when you can be positive? I don't remember how many muscles are involved now, but there's significantly more muscles associated with training than there is in smiling. So why waste energy? Yeah,

SPEAKER_02: 53:30

totally. Guy Needler, thank you so much. Have a wonderful day and stick around just for a second and I'll stop the recording, but thank you so much for joining

SPEAKER_01: 53:43

us. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_00: 53:49

Thanks for listening to Ashley on Nothing But The Truth for a Better You and Me.