Inside the Super Bowl Showdown: Coaching Legacies, Quarterback Comparisons, and Bold Predictions

Get ready for a Super Bowl roundup like no other, where  Fiddy and I team up with football's finest minds to unpack the Chiefs versus 49ers mega-clash. From the strategic nous of former student assistants to the seasoned wisdom of high school coaches, media pundits, and football family royalty, this episode is a full-field press of insight. Special guests Chris Marsco, Tony Bogan, Mister Askew, Bob Gavalier, Jordan DeMarco, Bill Stoy, Joe Cowart, and Nick Tomba  join us to share stories, dissect plays, and fire off predictions that will sculpt your view of the game and stoke the flames of fandom before the ultimate showdown.

Let's huddle up and dissect Andy Reid's coaching legacy, where we put his NFL achievements under the microscope and debate whether another Super Bowl ring could hoist him into the coaching stratosphere. Quarterback connoisseurs, you're in for a treat as we compare Mahomes to the titans of the turf, weighing his jaw-dropping feats against the greats. And for those scratching their heads over the 49ers' secret weapon, we spotlight linebacker Fred Warner and debate his potential to disrupt Kansas City's rhythm.

Tune in as we laugh and learn with Fiddy posing the unexpected questions that lead to the most unforgettable moments. Our gratitude is immense for the insights from all our guests. Share this epic pregame party with your fellow gridiron enthusiasts, and let the offbeat debates—like whether 50 Emperor penguins could outflank 200 squirrels—keep you chuckling. Remember, next week we'll be back with another episode, ready to tackle more stories and stats that will keep you riveted to your seat.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 2:18

Welcome everybody to a very special Super Bowl week edition of the Ride Home Rants podcast. I have a ragtag group of panelists that are going to be on the show here and we are going to break down the biggest game of the year, super Bowl Sunday, with the Chiefs versus the 49ers. With a group like this, I'm gonna need help getting everybody in line. So I have the wonderful manager of the podcast, johnny Fitty Falcone, who's going to help me keep this bunch of group, this group, in check for this. So he is going to be co-hosting this one with me. So I'm going to mix it up a little bit. And, johnny, why don't you go ahead and introduce the panel of guests for everybody?

Speaker 3: 3:05

Thanks, mike, for having me on to Oliver panel. Welcome to our second annual Super Bowl edition. I swear in my lifetime that Jets are gonna win a Super Bowl. That's why I have my hat on and that's why I have Joe Namath in the background there. So we have two different groups here today. A lot of people with a lot of different knowledge are going to be on the show and they're going to give you a lot of facts and a lot of opinions. So stay tuned for a fast-paced episode. So Mike's group has four different people.

Speaker 3: 3:31

We're going to start with Chris Marsko. Chris is coming to us from the Greater Trumbull County area in Ohio. He is a former student assistant at YSU. Chris is actually a high school coach and teacher in the area. He's coached for the great coach Polini at YSU and they made the national championship as a student assistant. So, chris, we welcome you to the show. You know and go blue. I know you're a big Michigan fan. You can tell everybody about it. After Chris, we have the number one guy in video content, especially videography for sports in the Greater Cleveland, canton and in Akron area. You have Tony Bogan coming to the show who's also the owner and host of tapped in with Tony. Make sure you go check that out on all major platforms. And I was a special guest on his show this week. So Tony's one of the best right out of Shaker Heights right now living in Alliance. So, tony, thanks again for coming on. We appreciate it.

Speaker 3: 4:30

Next is Jordan DeMarco. Jordan is actually a Bethany College alumni. Jordan is originally from Virginia, actually living in Pittsburgh. He just got engaged. So, jordan, congratulations again, my man. He is a former high school football player and also assisted a little bit with the Bethany College football team during his time when he was there. Jordan now works part-time as an added gym, also works in a school district and he's a high school coach. So Jordan's been on a few different times. We're happy to have him on.

Speaker 3: 4:59

And then, rounding out Mike's group is the legendary Bob Gavalier. If you don't know Bob then you don't listen to the radio. He is on 1390 the gambler on every Friday night announcing games. One of the best play-by-play guys out there that you can find. Also, bob is a contributor to Melodic live with Austin Melodic as one of the regular guests on that show. Bob's a wealth of knowledge. He's done a lot of different things in the media realm. We're happy to have him back on too.

Speaker 3: 5:28

Going over to my group, then you have the legendary Mr Askew, and yes, his name is actually Mr and it's not just his title. Mr Askew comes from the esteemed Askew football family. He is the oldest brother of legendary indoor football player, ray Sean Askew, who actually at one point broke Jerry Rice's record for professional touchdowns. But Mr is the better running back out of both of them. But then you have little brother BJ Askew, who is a legendary running back from the likes of the Michigan Wolverines. Chris Marsco would be happy to know that. He played with the great Chris Perry and according to Mr, that BJ is a better running back than anybody that was at Michigan this year. Mr is a former indoor football coach. He's also coach at the college level, coach all over. He's a great contributor to the show. We're happy to have Mr here.

Speaker 3: 6:19

Next is small business owner and high school football coach, nick Tomba. Nick is the defense of coordinator for Willoughby High School. Also owns coaches dry rub. If you haven't checked out coaches dry rub, it's a great idea to buy for some gifts or for yourself all types of different rubs and you can definitely check him out on at coaches dry rub. Just Google it. Also Nick will have his information online on Instagram if you want to check him out. Nick is also a middle school coach. He is a former standout linebacker at the John Carroll University.

Speaker 3: 6:50

Next up is the legend himself from Newcastle High School, joe Cowell. Joe is the only quarterback in Newcastle history to quarterback them to a WPIO championship and a PI double way state game birth where they lost to the legendary, I think, central Bucks West who was coached by the legendary coach Petten. Mike Petten's dad, who is the former Mike Patton, is the former coach of the Cleveland Browns Joe. You can correct me on that later if I am wrong. And Joe also played for the legendary Mark Matlik at Allegheny College, was a graduate assistant at Clarion University, longtime high school coach at the Newcastle area and if you search the WPIO championship 1998 you can see Joe rocking a bandana and kicking but over the field that day and then finally ran.

Speaker 3: 7:41

Rounding out my group is the legend himself, bill Stoy. Coming right out of Austin town, ohio, I have the legendary Austin town Fitch football program played for the late, great Phil Annarella bill is a great contributor to the show with his knowledge about sports. He is Mr Cleveland himself. Anything you want to know about Cleveland any bar, restaurant, brewery, sporting event, cool place to go or just somewhere to hang out bill is that guy. So we definitely welcome all of these guys and hopefully I got none of that wrong yeah, bless he, he flew through that.

Speaker 1: 8:14

That was the best introduction I've heard on this show in four seasons. Take a breath Fitty well, we'll give you a minute here to take a breath oh man, I was, I was getting winded just listening to that intro, but that is phenomenal.

Speaker 1: 8:41

But, like we said here, we are going to be breaking down the big game this Sunday and we have a bunch of questions, so I'm gonna get rolling right into it. And, marsco, we're gonna start with you with this one who is the most important player for the chiefs in this game in your opinion.

Speaker 4: 9:03

I think you know could be Chris Jones or Lageria Snead. You know he's a defensive guy myself. You know Brock Purdy kind of is. A byproduct of his weapons is. You know a lot of successful quarterbacks are. But if Lageria Snead can help in the secondary you know George Kittle isn't quite Travis Kelsey in my mind but he is darn good himself you're gonna have that safety over top helping out. Steve Spagnolo likes to get a lot of pressure. He hasn't done it quite as much this year. But you know Chris Jones, he's been here before.

Speaker 1: 9:42

He can make a huge impact too so I'd say one of those two guys.

Speaker 5: 9:46

Okay, tony, same question I would have to say it goes without saying, pat Mahomes, as it will get, that offense lives and dies with him. That's one of those guys who can throw the ball. He can take off for 25 yard gain if need be and spin out of tackles, flip the ball to someone as a shovel pass, can run these offensive plays like you're doing, spin moves and stuff. I gotta say, pat, and Pat Mahomes has earned every cent of his extension and the chiefs are where they are and they wouldn't be where they are today without him not discounting the defense, but Pat Mahomes is the head of the table on that, chiefs all right, jordan.

Speaker 1: 10:32

What about you?

Speaker 6: 10:35

yeah, to me this is a simple question. You don't got over thinking it's Pat Mahomes. I think at the beginning of the year we had the preseason show. We said who the MVP would be. I think a lot of us said Mahomes. I know I was one. It's his league. He's by far the most important player for the chiefs. If he's able to have the time to do what he does. They're very, very tough to beat, so I'll go with my homes.

Speaker 1: 10:59

All right, bob, around the set on this question.

Speaker 7: 11:03

I agree he was in a great two. Patrick Mahones has kind of led this team, put this team with his back during these playoffs. I think they changed their offense a little bit too and he's adapted to it. I think they're do the shorter, dump off passes and that's opened up. I think Kelsey a little bit too, but I just think he's took it to another level from the regular season and and he's kind of willed this team to the Super Bowl here.

Speaker 3: 11:27

All right.

Speaker 1: 11:29

Fitty, we'll let you go with your group, with your question.

Speaker 3: 11:32

Yeah, so we're gonna start, we're gonna go, mr, and then Tomba and Joe, and then Bill and all of our questions. So, mr, let's start with you. Who's the most important player for the 49ers in this game?

Speaker 2: 11:44

You know I might have to go on a defensive side and probably go with a combination of Nick Bolsa and probably chase young. You know, whenever you have a defensive end that can apply pressure to offense, to a quarterback sources, to a quarterback, I mean you got something to cook them right there. But I think there are defense for the 49ers man. It's something to see so I have to go with their defense. But I have to go if Nick Bolsa I'm chasing on, if they play like the Mahayes they boys, but they know, was that high state. It's going to be something interesting to see.

Speaker 3: 12:25

Okay, Nick. How about you? What's your opinion on this? Who's the most important player for 49ers?

Speaker 8: 12:31

Yeah, it's hard to say. I, mr, would 100% agree. Bolsa and Young are gonna have to get aftermate homes for sure, because I agree with Bob and Tony's that May Holmes is the number one player for the Kansas City, kansas City Chief, so someone has to slow him down. But I think that the quarterback in the national, in the national football league too, I think that Brock is gonna have to play really, really well. I don't think that he's gonna have to win them the game by throwing for 350 and running and scoring a ton, but he's going to have to step up big when accounts kind of like did in that Conference championship game two some days ago.

Speaker 3: 13:19

So Brock, Okay, Joe, you're the 49ers fan out of the bunks. What do you say here?

Speaker 9: 13:26

Yeah, I'll take the low hanging fruit. I think Christian McCaffrey has to be the best player on the field. There's not many times when you play against moans where a guy has a chance that isn't Pat moans to be the best player on the field, and I think McCaffrey is that guy. And the way the chiefs are playing, like Bob alluded to, is a little different. They control the tempo and if McCaffrey can get going and they can get into some 22 personnel, let's start hammering the ball against that spagmola defense. Mccaffrey can lead the charge and shorten the game a little bit and Set the tempo. The tempo of the game is going to be the determining factor. Who wins this one? Because Casey plays with a great tempo. They control tempo against anybody they're playing, but McCaffrey is that game changer that can really set it where it's. Hey, we're gonna get the yards we want to get with the guy we have. So I think McCaffrey, if he has a huge game, can be the deciding factor for the Niners.

Speaker 3: 14:27

All right, Bill Stoy round us out on this one. Who's the most important player for the 49ers?

Speaker 10: 14:32

Yeah, I mean definitely a lot of good answers around and I'll kind of sit with the defense, like mr Dead, and we'll go Fred Warner. I think, like Joe was saying, chiefs playing a little different this year I think, leaning on the run game a little bit more, and Fred Warner, I think just best blind backer in the NFL being kind of get in there, shut that down. I think we'll be in some coverage on Kelsey as well. So I think if you can have a big game, it's gonna go a long way towards them getting the win there. So we'll go Fred Warner.

Speaker 3: 15:01

Okay, mike, back to you.

Speaker 1: 15:03

All right, marisc, we'll go back to you for this one. You know regardless if the chiefs win this game or not. Where does Andy Reed rank in in your opinion as an all-time coach?

Speaker 4: 15:19

I mean, you know, I remember growing up Andy Reed was always the guy that was able to get close and could never, you know, get across a finish line with the Eagles. I mean there was, I think was about three or four times I made the NFC title game and I couldn't get to the bowl. But he's been great for a long time. And then I mean you consider his legacy that he's built up before coach and some of the Great quarterbacks that he's been fortunate to be around, you know I could argue he's a top 10 coach all time. His wins certainly supported his super bowls. I think he's in line to win a few more if he's interested in sticking around.

Speaker 4: 15:57

No, he's been doing it for a while but no, andy Reed's a smart coach. Like Bob mentioned, they've kind of changed the way they played. He's he's adapted with the time. So, um, he knows, come play off time. You got to run the ball a little bit more and you know Pacheco's kind of done well with that. So I think his dominance, as long as he's been doing it, he's got to be a top-ten coach all time.

Speaker 1: 16:20

All right, tony. What about you I?

Speaker 5: 16:23

Say, andy Reed is a top-ten, borderline top-five coach if he gets the win. He's at this point he's just coaching and for fun. He's got the win in 2020. He's made it back to Super Bowl in 21, even though the Tuesday wind got the win last year. He could potentially be a Bill Belichick type guy that, as his like bill Belichick deal with Tom Brady, he may found his guy in Pat Mahomes and potentially In increase the longevity of his career before, being honest, I think there was rumors that maybe Andy Reed couldn't win the big one back in the day, but now he's got two of them. Once he start winning, sometimes it's hard to stop.

Speaker 1: 17:08

Absolutely Jordan. What about you?

Speaker 6: 17:12

Yeah, I think when you kind of get in debates like this about, you know we're doing a coach. You know you can look at the Super Bowls or whatever. In the wins he's been consistent with which is key. Obviously he's got a superstar quarterback, which always helps, especially in the league. Now I Could see any I could see say he's a top 12 coach, I think, and I could see anyone putting him as high as you know, five or six. I think he falls anywhere between that five to twelve range of my opinion right now, without even winning this one. You know, if he wins this one and a couple more, there's definitely the push to possibly put him top five. But I'm totally comfortable saying he's a top 12 coach of all time right now, just from the consistency and in the Ability to adapt in the league. You know he's been doing it for a little bit.

Speaker 1: 17:58

So All right, bob, around a sound this question.

Speaker 7: 18:04

Yeah, I agree. Like I said, I Think he's gonna be a top five coach. I mean, once again they did do a great job in Philadelphia and then this year this team, I think wasn't one of the best teams in the AFC. I think there's a lot of better, other better teams in the AFC. And he's Kind of changed the way. Like I mentioned in the first with my home is he's kind of changed his whole offense. You know, they're running the ball. They're kind of instead of they don't have a deep Downfold thread anymore, so they're kind of dinking the dunking a little bit to get the receivers and the ball real quick. And once again, I think that's open the things for Kelsey to kind of open things up. So I just think he's just a great Motivator and it's just really turned this team around to where once again they're in the Super Bowl here for the second time in a row.

Speaker 1: 18:51

All right, goodie back to you.

Speaker 3: 18:55

So for my guys, mister, we're gonna start with you. Regardless if the chiefs win or not, where's Patrick Mahomes rank as an all-time quarterback after this game? Now, let's keep it in consideration here. You're talking about all-time great, right? You guys think Joe Montana, steve young, big Ben, terry Bradshaw, tom Brady right, you can say Len Dawson, you know you have a lot, warren moon you have a lot of guys to to pick from In there. But taking all that in consideration, mister, where does Patrick Mahomes ranked, in your opinion, as an all-time great quarterback, regardless of what happens in this game?

Speaker 2: 19:30

You know I said he's, he's probably, you know, in in top 10 right now. I mean he's still got a long ways to go. You know long no saying career to go. You know he's done some things. He's been very fortunate to do some things early on.

Speaker 2: 19:46

And when you look at when you had a Offline, you know you got a head coach and read. But when you had office accorded, like Eric Benning, me, you know they had the last four or five years or whatnot, as I always see, you see how he kind of developed into a really Efficient quarterback to those years or whatnot. And you look at the time you know an air band me was going this lit this year and you see that as you had to kind of adjust or kind of go back to what you know, saying what Patrick can do. And you know, let me talk about with the thinking don't not going downfield, not passing All over the place like they was or whatnot, but you know they had nights at it get back to doing some of the things that he did early on this career. But I know, regardless of what happened, he's the I think he's the top ten quarterback but he's, you know he's still got a long way to go.

Speaker 3: 20:38

Okay, how about you, nick? What do you say on this?

Speaker 8: 20:40

Oh, yeah, I would 100% agree with that. He is gotta be up there in the top ten. You know, just off the top of my mind, I think there's only like ten or thirteen, there's only ten or thirteen Quarterbacks that have won two or more Super Bowls, and I think he's got a lot of years left in him and I think the team and the cast and the coaches and what they have there in Kansas City is something special and I think he's only bound to at least when one or two more and he's got two now. So I think he's, he is right now, he's in the top ten and I think he has the potential to be in the top five and just see how things handle out for him.

Speaker 3: 21:28

So yeah, so let's get the opinion of the 49ers fan, Joe, here, but also the former quarterback that he is and now a personal quarterback's coach with the quarterback academy that he has as well. So, Joe, as a former quarterback offensive coordinator, everything that you've seen and done in your career what is your opinion, Joe, about Patrick Mahomes' rank?

Speaker 9: 21:52

I mean all signs point to his trajectory is on the path to be the best ever. His skills are so rare in elite but that we've seen guys with rare skills and elite level skills that don't win at his rate he wins more than anyone. What? Six seasons as a starter, six AFC championships, you know really, he's got two playoff losses to Brady and won the burrow. The guy never loses. He's such a. He pairs his elite level talent with elite level competitiveness. So you know he's on a scary path right now. But when you compare him to the guy that is the goat that's Brady, he just doesn't have the longevity.

Speaker 9: 22:38

Brady rewrote what it meant to play the position for a long time, so but he's certainly, I think he's in the conversation as a top five guy right now. I don't put him ahead of some, I don't put him ahead of Montana or even L way yet, but I you know L way went to six Super Bowls and one, two. So you know, maybe that's, maybe that's my homes is he may do that. He may only win two. I mean, you never know, but he could. But he's on a path right now and he's giving himself a chance to win a pile of them because that's what he does. It's all he does is win. So, yeah, I think he's. He's creeping into the top five as we speak and he's certainly on a trajectory that's going to be. There'll be conversations that he's the best ever. Okay.

Speaker 3: 23:24

And Bill round us out on this one. What's your opinion?

Speaker 10: 23:27

Kind of tough to follow up some of the quarterback credentials Joe has. I think these guys are on the right track here. I think pretty much cemented in the top 10 now and he just one of those guys so hard to beat similar to not old enough to maybe remember some of the older guys, but Brady when he gets into playoffs just so hard to beat. I think my home has a lot of that to him. So I think I'll throw out there if he gets the win this week. I know kind of regardless of that, but if he gets a win I think he puts himself in the top five and is it going to keep moving on up there? Okay?

Speaker 3: 24:06

Back to you, Mike.

Speaker 1: 24:08

All right, so more skill. Let's go to you, and you mentioned it earlier defense. Who has the defensive advantage in this game?

Speaker 4: 24:23

I kind of feel like that's splitting hairs. I'm excited to kind of watch, as one of the more exciting parts of this game is the offense, and the quarterbacks are getting a lot of the attention.

Speaker 4: 24:33

But, you know the freedom mentioned it earlier, I think it might have been, mr when you got to book and pass rushers like the 49ers do and you go against a great quarterback like that. You know it was a big Michigan guy called Tom Brady's. Whole career he was my guy. One of the only ways to beat him was to be able to get that pass rush by only rushing those down four and you know being able to keep everyone else back. So I think when you consider the talent at every level, I don't think the chiefs are far off, but I think I give the nod to the 49ers by just a hair Okay.

Speaker 1: 25:12

Tony, what about you?

Speaker 5: 25:14

I would have to say secondary wise, the chiefs, and I would have to say interior wise and defensive defensive linemen wise. I give the, I'll give the nod to the 49ers because that nine is a defense with Chase young, fred Warner, that scary defense, especially with those guys on the line, the chiefs. It's not like the chiefs defense isn't good. You've got Chris Jones, you've got a luxurious sneeze, feed and seed. I say that five times fast and I would have to say I get the edge to. The nine is this time.

Speaker 1: 25:52

Okay, jordan, what about you?

Speaker 6: 25:57

Yeah, I'm going to go nine. And there's the past rush is obvious when you got those guys. But specifically I'm going with the niers because of Fred Warner. The guys at unicorn, at linebacker uh, he can play side line to sideline, maybe better than any other linebacker in the NFL and in today's game. You need that, especially a team like the chiefs. They like to do a lot of things horizontal. They'll take their shots downfield, but they they do like their quick game and I think a guy like Fred Warner is a guy that could be a problem. If you're an offensive coordinator looking at the gun, how you know, how do we get away from this guy? I know he's only one guy, but he he's very, very good on that side of the ball for them and, um, so he's my main reason why I picked the niners. I don't think the chiefs have anyone like him on the team and I think he's really the best, one of the best defensive players in this game.

Speaker 1: 26:45

Okay, bob, from a media standpoint, round us out here.

Speaker 7: 26:51

Um, you know, after coming into the, the plaza, I would say the 49ers, but after watching Detroit just run all over them last week, um, I'm going to go with the chiefs. I think the AMC had the better teams this year and I think the defense really, you know, did a good job against Buffalo and then against the Lamar Jackson last week, really shutting them down. So, um, I would go to the chiefs, I think you know. You look at the 49ers. Uh, you know Dan Campbell kicks a field early on. I think we're looking at alliance chiefs game right now because I think that he made a couple mistakes tonight thing. And, um, the 49ers defensive play as well, as I thought it would. I think I got to go with the chiefs in this one All right.

Speaker 3: 27:32

Fitty to you you know what I'm going to ask this question? Um, and you know, I just thought about this. You know I have Nick Tombo on it and it's an offensive question. I should have kept them with Marscove, because they're both defensive coordinators. So but, um, mr Renner, start with you. Who has the advantage offensively in this game?

Speaker 2: 27:51

Offensively. I'm not to say Kansas City yeah, they most definitely have. I think that's a good question. You know the thing with Kansas City. You know you got a quarterback and pass your own, but then you know you got to tighten and in NFL if you have a dangerous tight end you can most definitely create a lot of different type of mismatch. Not a thing with San Francisco, you know. You know with the quarterback you got a no-transcript. Now you do have Christian, which is, you know he is a the all-around guy. You know somebody who's running, you know somebody who can go out. You know what I'm saying. They want to split, split in this lot and whatnot, but I would have to give the ad to Kansas City right now. Okay.

Speaker 3: 28:40

You know, Nick, why don't I have to ask you this and I guess we'll ask you more from a defensive standpoint who do you think has the offensive advantage? I mean, who would you be more worried about preparing for?

Speaker 8: 28:51

I would be extremely worried about preparing for either one of them, but I mean, both of them have a lot. So you know, San Fran obviously runs the football a little bit better, so I think that plays a huge factor into it, and if they can keep my homes off of the field. But I think, like Bob and Joe were talking about how May Holmes and the Kansas City offense can go fast, they can go slow, they can spread you out wide, they can spread you out deep. So I think just defending a quarterback like Patrick May Holmes is number one, probably the most scariest thing that a defensive coach can walk into. But that's not taking anything away from Brock, it's not taking anything away from the calfery and certainly not taking anything away from Coach Shanahan as well. So both of them are scary as hell. But I definitely think that Patrick May Holmes and Travis Kelsey and the Kansas City Chiefs would be one damn tough offense to try to walk out there and fight against.

Speaker 3: 30:02

So Kansas City. Okay, so we'll get the offensive coordinator here as opinion. I know he's a little biased because he's a 49ers fan, but Joe, who has the advantage offensively in this game?

Speaker 9: 30:18

I don't think it's close. I think the 49ers offensively are the significantly better offensively than Kansas City. Is you? The one guy is better. My homes is better than Purdy. I mean that's not a big stretch. But everyone you know Kittle and Kelsey. At this point in Kelsey's career Kittle and Kelsey are close so that doesn't really happen. When you look at tight end matchups with Kelsey, normally he's the superior athlete at tight end. Kittle's really, really good. And then running back wide receiver, the Niners are significantly better and they're better up front.

Speaker 9: 30:56

So, like you said, from a defensive coordinators percent, if you're trying to stop somebody, I don't want to stop the 49ers. I don't know where do I turn. What am I going to load up on the calfery or Kittle? Well then Debo Sammel is going to rip me apart or IU is going to go crazy. So the Niners have more answers than Kansas City does. But Kansas City they create their own questions. They do what you know. My homes makes it a different animal. So it's and it's going to be so exciting to watch these brilliant offensive guys in Reed and Shanahan in a chess match with. You know, with the pieces they have. I think the pieces are better on the 49ers offensive team. Okay.

Speaker 3: 31:40

Bill Stoy. Round this out, man. You're a former offensive lineman and defense lineman. You know who has the offensive advantage here. In this game, the 49ers are the chiefs.

Speaker 10: 31:50

Yeah, it's a tough one. A lot of compelling arguments around. I think when you look at the weapons it kind of goes towards the 49ers. I think both have a pretty good offensive line. We got some all the famers on playing on both lines, I believe. But it's a quarterback league and I just trust my homes so much more than birdie right now. So I think you got to go with the chiefs and my homes just get to, you know, push them over the edge, I think on the offensive side and kind of you know is a tiebreaker there for them.

Speaker 3: 32:24

Okay, all right, mike, thank you.

Speaker 1: 32:26

All right, I think I have the most important question for you here, Marisco, and that is who wins this game and what is the score?

Speaker 4: 32:37

All right. So I'm a big believer that. You know, come play off time. You all run the ball, play defense and the thing we both mentioned, you know defensively you go either way. You know McCaffrey might be a more superior running bat with a little bit better offensive line. You know you do the Super Bowl. It's like LeBron and then the finals or Jordan and the finals. You got to kind of go with greatness. I think you know Vegas kind of having the 49ers is the favorite. I don't really see a problem with that, but it reminds me of you know when the Patriots would get there and you make Tom Brady the underdog. Okay, good luck. I don't recommend that. He's been underdog all playoffs, but I got the chiefs winning. Um Patty's going to take him on a drive late in the game. Got the final uh 27-23. Okay.

Speaker 1: 33:32

Tony, what about you? Who wins and why, and what's the score? You're muted, tony.

Speaker 5: 33:40

Okay, I say that the chiefs win 28 to 25. Another close game at Malmö's lead. A game winning drive for a field goal. I know that the score being tied 25 doesn't make a lot of sense, but then again it's the Super Bowl. What anything that can happen.

Speaker 1: 34:02

All right, Jordan, what about you?

Speaker 6: 34:06

Yeah, so, uh, well, I still stole my score. I had it in 27-23. Um, that was the first number that kind of came off the bat in my head. Uh, I really my gut's telling me the 49ers it's such a toss up. We talk about the Mahomes fact there in this, you know, compare him to like a guy like Jordan out of you Betting against George and Nebrady in the finals or in the Super Bowl, like this Um, I'm going to go. The Niners I think they're going to control. I think they're going to control the clock. I think they're going to have a good tempo. I think they're going to try to keep the ball out of my hands. I think they can do that because they can run the football really well. Um, so I'm going to go 27-23. Niners Um, I could see them just going for a long drive, chunked it, um, and we won this game. So my gut tells me nineers, I'm going to stick with it.

Speaker 1: 34:55

All right, bob Brown is out.

Speaker 7: 34:59

Um, I'm going to go. Uh, I was going back and forth. This is, I think it's going to be one of the better Super Bowls in history, but of course, we think that that'll be a blow out on one side. But, um, I still can't go against Mahomes. Um, I think once again what they've done in this playoffs. I think they weren't the best team in this playoffs, but they still have gotten there. Um, I'm just worried the way the 49ers have played the last two games. They've gotten behind both teams and if you do that against the homes, uh, I think they'll take advantage of that. So I got the. The chiefs went in, uh, 27-17.

Speaker 1: 35:32

Okay, I'm actually going to answer this one too as well, cause, like Jordan here, something's telling me that Mr Irrelevant Brock Purdy is going to get it done. Here I have it a little bit higher, more high scoring of a game. I'm going 30, 27, niners Fitty, take it away.

Speaker 3: 35:54

Don't worry, guys, we're going to get to this question my group in a little bit, but I have a question before this. Kyle Shanahan has coached the 49ers for seven seasons with four of them winning seasons, with four NFC title games, two Super Bowl appearances, regular season record of 64 and 51 in a whopping post season record of eight and three, because four of his assistants already have become NFL or college football head coaches, where does he rank right now in the current landscape of NFL coaches? Now, please keep in consideration Mike Tomlin has also won eight playoff games in 11 years and 17 total seasons. John Harbaugh has only won nine playoff games in 15 years. Right now, kyle Shanahan is, if he says, at this pace, will eventually surpass all of those guys within two seasons and only be behind Andy Reed potentially. But, mr, where does Kyle Shanahan rank right now, regardless if they have a Super Bowl or not, as a coach in the NFL?

Speaker 2: 36:57

That's a wonderful question and you know what I'm going to kind of hopefully break it down and say like this he might be a product of maybe it's just been a whole bunch of bad teams over there on that side of that side of the NFL for those particular years. You know he's a good coach, he's done some things. Yeah, I've had some good players or whatnot. I think wherever he's ranked, that's where he's ranked right now. You know, when it comes down to where you stand as far as a coach and for me it's just longevity you know, sometimes you get to be a product or have a lot of good guys that's good on your team at that particular time and then, on the other hand, with that, you know, a lot of teams on that NLC side can just be sucky and just sorry. You know, just be sorry. We're not that good and we know that it's bad for a long time. So I think this is a big picture that you have to take. Yes, you got to look at, but you got a lot of way to go.

Speaker 3: 38:07

Okay, nick. What about you? Where does he rank right now in the current landscape of NFL coaches?

Speaker 8: 38:12

Right now, in the current landscape, with the guys that they got there. I mean, he's in the Super Bowl, so how can you say that he's not one of the top two and all those records that you just kind of rattled off there to fit, he proved it. But I would say he's got to be amongst the top three to five to just do what he's done and he's won as a offensive coordinator places. He's been to a Super Bowl as a coordinator. He was at a Super Bowl when he was a kid helping out his father pulling his cord back for his headset and stuff like that. But I think but I for sure give him a lot of credit he's one where ever he has been at and he's brought his. He has brought his team to the top now twice. So I think winning one and you said that's out of the question, but winning it is going to definitely jump him up extremely fast and high. But I think he's within the top three to five in the league at this time being.

Speaker 3: 39:17

Okay, All right. 49ers. Sam Joe, what do you say about this? Where's your guy rank?

Speaker 9: 39:23

Yeah, I think Shanahan's in the top five. You know, I think the record backs it up and he's due. He's got to. He's got to put a cherry on top of the cake here. He's done everything. He's won the championships, he's been to the Super Bowl just as a one one, as a coordinator, as a head guy, so he's got that. He's got to get that monkey off his back. But I think maybe the best proof for him is all the guys in the league that are doing what he does, that have that are running a Shanahan style offense, and that's Stephansky and Cleveland, that's O'Connell in Minnesota, that's McVeigh in LA. Those are all Shanahan disciples. So those you know, when you, when you look at it that way, his influence on the league may be greater than his standings as a you know what level coach am I? So he certainly has, you know, his, his thumb prints on the league. You know, pretty significantly at this point. Okay.

Speaker 3: 40:21

And Bill, where does Carl Shanahan rank right now as one of the coaches in the NFL?

Speaker 10: 40:26

Thought five. I think it's thought five too and it's kind of hard to narrow down what you get into that range there. But I think top five. And you know, with the Super Bowl we definitely elevate some self up there. I think everyone in here can and everyone listen, knows what we, you know say Shanahan Tree similar to what Joe was saying to have you know the Shanahan Tree and all the the branches coming off it, coaches and influence all over the league. Everyone's trying to be like him and run off and like him. So he got to be doing something right and I think a lot of people in the league would put him easily into the top five. So I think he's in there with the win, probably top three.

Speaker 9: 41:07

All right.

Speaker 3: 41:10

If I had the rank to top five coaches in the NFL right now, I would probably say I would go with, of course, andy Reed one. Sean McVeigh has to be two just because of what he did this past season. I think he was phenomenal. I don't like the Steelers, but I'll give Tomlin credit. He's probably three right now just because Belichick's not there to stomp the Steelers down every single season. But I'll give Tomlin that history. I probably put Shanahan at four and then I'm going to say this but just because he won for goal, but he's also won at another place I'm going to give probably Doug Peterson number five because he's brought two teams to the playoffs. The only other guy that's really done that is Andy. You know Andy Reed. The other three guys have never been with another organization to say that they brought two teams to the playoffs and relevance. So. But that would be my top five. But I'll give Tomlin three. I'll give Shanahan four.

Speaker 1: 42:06

For everyone listening. You don't know how big of a compliment that is for Fitty to put Tomlin up in the top five. He has been the biggest Tomlin hater for a long time and that's that's a big accomplishment. But we're going to keep this rolling here. But, Marsco, what are your thoughts on the Super Bowl being played on a Sunday evening? Do you think it would be wise to move it to maybe a Saturday night, or even earlier on a Sunday?

Speaker 4: 42:37

Yeah, so I get teased quite a bit about being like a really old guy any young guy's body. I'm a traditionalist so you know, most of the time I go with what tradition has. But you know I don't see any problem with adapting with the times either. I feel like, more recently especially, there's been a cry to move it to Saturday. You know, I feel like you get a lot of non football fans that also tune into this. Obviously, viewership would support that and you know, I think moving it to Saturday just you're able to connect with the masses and give the people what they want. It's two weeks off from the AFC and NFC title games. I don't really feel like moving it up a day is any disservice to the prep for the coaches or the players. So why not? Let's change with the times and wise up and move it.

Speaker 1: 43:30

All right, Tony. What are your thoughts?

Speaker 5: 43:33

I think that Sunday, I think it's perfect where it's at. I just wish that the NFL season was shortened the game, because it interferes it kind of interferes with racing at Daytona. You've got the flash a week before you have the Daytona 500 after works, which really messes with speed weeks, but at the same time then again you'd have the NFL season starting around Labor Day. So there's no easy fix. But either way, super Bowl Sunday is very iconic and the day after should be a national holiday. You can't change Jordan. What about you?

Speaker 6: 44:15

Yeah, time to piggyback right off what you just said there. At the end, you keep it on Sunday. You give Monday off. It's a national freaking holiday. Everybody you just said earlier everybody watches this game, even if they don't even know what a first down is. So you might as well just give everybody off Monday. Okay, everyone's tuning in. Everyone's going to be up late. A lot of food and drinks will be consumed. You might it's like it's like Christmas for football and football in the day of the week. You might as well give Mondays off. If you're not willing to do that, I mean, I could understand, maybe go into a Saturday, but the simple fix is you just give Monday off. That's all it is.

Speaker 8: 45:00

So I'm all for it Bob.

Speaker 1: 45:01

Brad is out here Bob.

Speaker 7: 45:07

I got. The easiest fix is give everybody two buys during the season. We buff this down to the following Sunday, which Monday is president's day. A lot of people are had president's day off already. We can do that. Just get that going and extend the season one more week. But yeah, I don't mind it being on Sunday. Like I said, I do agree it should be a national holiday, or once again buff it down and have president's day off, and the only thing maybe bump it up, maybe four o'clock instead of six o'clock. You get it done a little earlier.

Speaker 1: 45:43

No, I'll refute this Go back to you.

Speaker 3: 45:47

So, actually, though, I want to comment. So Bob is actually right about the four o'clock. For a long time, I think the first 11 or 12, maybe 15 Super Bowls were all played at four o'clock. That's why, if you watch the old films of like the Raiders and the Chiefs and the Steelers and all them that were playing outside, that's why the games were late until like literally the fourth quarter, because they were starting the games at four in the afternoon, east Coast time, which was sometimes they're playing in California like one o'clock. So they were starting the games a lot earlier back then. So just that is a good point, bob, on that. But for my guys, all right, we're going to answer this now. Who wins the game and what is the score? Mr, let's start with you.

Speaker 2: 46:26

You know what I'm going to go with San Francisco. Okay, I refuse to want to see Kansas City win a game. And Travis, you know, and Travis Kels, and get on the mic, tell the girl to come down and say, will you marry me? I don't want to see that they're not letting her come to the game. Yeah, I don't want to see her. I don't want to see her. I hate that type of stuff, because I know that's what you know. They are hoping that something like that magical happened, magical moments, you know, san. But no, give me the 49ers. I believe the 49ers are going to win man Overall. You know, bob says some good points early on man, but with that defense and what they have offensively as a package of players, 49ers, but I think it's going to be a high scoring, a high scoring game, but I think it'll be, you know, 35 to 30.

Speaker 3: 47:26

Okay, how about you, nick? What do you think the final score is going to be and who's going to win?

Speaker 8: 47:31

Well, right off the bat, I think that Kansas City is going to win. I think score is going to be 31 to 27. I think that it's going to be a great, great game. I think that May Holmes is going to lead them down within the final two or three minutes and seal it off. I think that the Niners are great. I like them more, but I just cannot bet against Patrick May Holmes, especially against a quarterback that's in his second year in the league. I just find that hard to believe that the Chiefs are going to lose to Brock Purdy, led by the 49ers, and I love him. I love Brock. I think he's going to be good for years and years, but I don't think he's going to win a Super Bowl in year two. That's what I think. So I'm going 31, 27. Joe, what about you?

Speaker 3: 48:23

You already know Niners, Niners 38.

Speaker 9: 48:33

17,. They're going to run away with it, but everything's gone wrong for them in two rounds and they still are sitting in that Super Bowl. Everything's going to go right. The defense is going to come to play. All Purdy's going to prove that he's the truth. Man, 24-year-old young guy is going to go crazy, and at least that's what I hoped for. Niners big.

Speaker 3: 48:59

Okay, and Bill Stoy run us out on this.

Speaker 10: 49:02

Man, this just started out, but we're going to ride the fairy tale. I think the love story America's Couple is. I think there's some hype behind it. You added to my homes and a lot of magic there. So I think Chiefs get it done and I don't think Crazy High scoring, though We've got 24-21,. I think the defense is playing big part in it and my homes at the end. Big time players make big time plays and big time games. I think it goes like that. So he gets it done in the end 24-21.

Speaker 3: 49:34

Just so everybody knows, I wouldn't go see Taylor Swift in a concert if she was across the street from my house. So just throwing it out there for everybody. But I'm going to pick this one. I'm going to say the 49ers win because Brock Purdy is going to show that it doesn't matter if you're a first round pick or a seventh round pick, it just matters about how you fit into the system. I predict the 49ers are going to win this game 27-17.

Speaker 1: 50:01

I will piggyback off of the Taylor Swift conversation that we were actually having, which I can't believe we are. I wouldn't go and see her if she was having a concert in my house. I don't know why she'd be here, but I'd leave my house to get, like I'm so sick of every time Travis touches the ball. You see her face. I'm done with it.

Speaker 3: 50:22

Like no, no, but we're going to get back to Before we get any Swifties here on a kick, mike. Let's go back to the last question.

Speaker 1: 50:33

We're going to go to the last question. Get back to the football here before we piss off. Swifty Nation here, but Marceko who wins the MVP of the game.

Speaker 4: 50:48

I had the Chiefs winning Seems like much to the chagrin of a lot of people. In the podcast right now they let the Taylor Swift story the MVP traditionally is Wood's storyline. It's the richest. It seems to be Alco's. I expect Kelsey to have a really big game but for those reasons I think he will separate himself as an easy choice. Corus of Patty leads him on a late drive. It's easy to give it to the quarterback too, but, like I said, I think the Taylor Swift plot, combined with his greatness and what he's going to contribute to the game, I think it'll be Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 1: 51:31

All right, Tony.

Speaker 5: 51:33

I will have to say Travis Kelsey. He could get four touchdowns and have five catches for like a hundred some odd yards, and Pat Mahomes would still somehow be the MVP, unless it was somebody whoever the Chiefs backup is. So I got to say Pat Mahomes.

Speaker 1: 51:55

All right, Jordan, what about you?

Speaker 6: 51:59

Well, I picked the Niners to win as much as I'd like it to be Brock, just to be a kind of a big FU to everybody. I'm gonna go McCaffrey. I think they're gonna give him a lot of touches. I think he's have a lot of opportunities to do what he does, which he does very, very well, and I think he's the difference maker. I think whoever said earlier when do you ever have a game where you know my homes may not be the best player on the field, or or has a guy that could rival him as being the best player on the field? It's McCaffrey. So I think they're gonna rely on him a little bit more this week than they have all season to go. You know what we need you to kind of win us this game a little bit. So I'm gonna go McCaffrey. All right, bob, around us out here.

Speaker 7: 52:43

I picked the chief, so I get a same of homes. It's a, it's a no-brainer. I mean, he's done it the last couple weeks here and I think For them to win, of course he's gonna have to have a good game and I think running the ball as well as throwing the ball. So I get a same of homes gonna win this BNVP.

Speaker 1: 53:01

All right, I picked the Niners, but, unlike Jordan, I'm gonna say they're gonna give it to Brock. I think party gets that. Mr Irrelevant tag, take it off of them and switches it to Super Bowl MVP after this game. But Philly, round us out here.

Speaker 3: 53:20

Okay, mr, for you and then the rest of the guys. Which team is more than likely to have a better chance to come back to the Super Bowl next year? The chiefs were the 49ers.

Speaker 2: 53:32

Even the 49ers, 49ers will have a better sense. I believe you know young defense when you have, you know, a young team and you have a defense guys that can move around and can apply pressure, his win championship.

Speaker 3: 53:54

What about you, Nick? What do you? What do you say?

Speaker 8: 53:57

I think, just like picking the winner, this is just as hard of a question. I think both of them are Obviously in the top two in their conferences. But I would agree with mr as well. I think that the 49ers have the longer shelf life. You know, going forward here, they they definitely have more talent, kind of like what Joe was talking about too, with all their Weapons that they have and they don't have may homes, but they have every other weapon at running back, at receiver, at tight end on defense. I had their line at their backers, at their safes and corners. They are. If, if they can keep that team together, I think that they are going to be special for years and years to come here. So, 49ers.

Speaker 3: 54:51

Okay, joe, I know this answer, but go ahead.

Speaker 9: 54:55

Well, I'll piggyback off what mr Said. Like you, the Niners have the easier road. The NFC doesn't pose as many threats as the AFC, but the AFC championship has become the Kansas City invite, so it is a tough question. You know that Kansas City goes every year to the championship game. They're good, they're gonna give themselves the chance to go back to the Super Bowl. But I think the Niners have an easier path to to get back to them, get back in the mix and be back here again next year.

Speaker 3: 55:26

Okay, and Bill round the sound on this.

Speaker 10: 55:28

Yeah, like I said, I think the Chiefs win this year. But looking ahead, kelsey, you know, next year, another year older, is Andy Reid back coaching. I think that's a real question mark there getting into next year. I can see a little bit of a hard to say rebuild there with my home in the quarterback. But I think the Niners are gonna have a better chance next year with the Chiefs, maybe in a little bit of a rebuild. Maybe try and figure out a coaching situation as well.

Speaker 3: 55:55

Okay. Well, that does it for the questions and for all of our listeners and I know Bono is really excited to hear this we have Fitties, great eight, eight random questions for our panel of guests. As Mike's gonna sit back and laugh, I'm gonna make a comic laugh. So every guy gets one question. You guys have all been around this before. You can elaborate if you want, but you don't have to. We're gonna start with you, mr, because it's the most typical, fitting question anybody could ever ask. Mr who would it be harder to fight and win against? If it's me, you and Bono verse 50 Emperor penguins or 200 squirrels. Which one is harder to beat? 50 Emperor penguins or 200 squirrels?

Speaker 2: 56:37

200 squirrels man, 200 square. Wise, because there's 200 of them, 200 square.

Speaker 3: 56:48

Okay, all right, marsco, this one is for you. What would you rather be the rest of your life if you had to become an animal, a camel or a wiener dog?

Speaker 4: 57:02

Probably a wiener dog. I'd be down with the attention. I feel like someone owns a wiener dog. They pamper that dog, so I Don't know. I feel like that'd be a little more lavish life.

Speaker 3: 57:17

Okay, bob, we're gonna go with you. Next, what's the better milk, vitamin D or 2%?

Speaker 7: 57:25

Well, gotta be the 2% man Vitamin. Vitamin D is kind of like sludge, drinking sludge sometimes. So the 2% a little bit easier to take down and especially with cereal you could drink it down after you're done with it.

Speaker 3: 57:41

Okay, the mark already go with you on this one. This is a good debate, debatable one, but we'll see what you say here. As a old quarterback and a football fan, not, if not a fan of a particular team who had a better NFL career Steve young or big Ben Roffless Burger.

Speaker 6: 58:01

Oh my god, cheese, that's why would you give me that question? Fitty Jordan, I go Steve. I mean as much on the store. I'm gonna go Steve. I know he had rice and stuff, but I would say he probably had a great team, but I would say he had the better career. So I'll go Steve on this one, even though I love Ben. I do, but he's a little bit of a cowboy back there.

Speaker 3: 58:30

Okay, tony, your question what's a better food, barbecue or Italian, oh, I gotta say barbecue especially.

Speaker 5: 58:39

I see, mr Excuse me.

Speaker 3: 58:43

There's five Italian guys on this. You can't come on now.

Speaker 1: 58:48

You're when it gets all of us talking to five pizons we talking about these father never left, all right well this is the last time you guys are gonna see Tony on the show.

Speaker 3: 59:07

All right, nick, your question. Yeah, this will happen only one time and you got to pick one of them. Would you rather take a charge in hoops from prime Shaq or try to tackle Mike all-star one-on-one in the gap?

Speaker 8: 59:23

Jesus, I would say take on Shaq in the paint, because I'm all five foot ten and I was not a great basketball player and I played linebacker and I don't think that I could take on Mike All-star in the gap. So I would rather get embarrassed on the court than on the grid earlier. And so Shaq in the paint.

Speaker 3: 59:47

Okay, joe, we're gonna go with you on this one. I think you'll find this quite funny, joe, and your prime when you played quarterback. Do you think you could be a better NFL quarterback right now? The New York Jets quarterback, zach Wilson, oh.

Speaker 9: 1:00:00

No, no, I don't. There's a reason. Those guys are in the NFL and I'm not. I'm not. That's that's my answer, absolutely not.

Speaker 3: 1:00:11

All right, we saved the best for last for Bill Stoy and for everybody doesn't know, and it's gonna lead into it me and bill went to the 2023 Italian Super Bowl this past summer. That pitted teams from Italy against one another and none other than Toledo, ohio. So, bill, your question if you gave me one month to train, could I win the 2024 Italian Bowl MVP as a quarterback?

Speaker 10: 1:00:41

Man, I want to say no, but I watched that game and it wasn't anything like what we're gonna see on Super Bowl Sunday. So, biddy, I think you still got something to tank. One month to, uh, one month to train, I think you have it in you.

Speaker 3: 1:00:57

Okay, joe, I'm coming to Newcastle. You're putting me through it for a for one month. I want to be a part of the quarterback academy. Joe Coward, I'm gonna go win the 2024 Italian Super Bowl in Rome next year. We'll get you ready. You're all, and that is gonna do it for for the uh, the fitties great eight questions. So I hope you guys all had a good time answering those in Bono. I hope they were some of the best yet.

Speaker 1: 1:01:22

I gotta say, fitty, those are the best questions you've had in four years of this show. I gotta say those are by far the best questions we've had on that segment in a long time. Uh, and yes, you did make the comic laugh right off the rip with mr Question, just because you put all three of us I didn't know how, I didn't know I was gonna be in there and for everyone listening, fitty doesn't tell me these questions beforehand like this was straight. Hey, I'm gonna do this, let's see what happens. And that's that's what happened. So Could I see you? Those were the best questions, but that is going to do it for our Super Bowl Roundtable preview show here. I want to thank all of my guests and co-host, johnny Fitty Falcone, for joining us here today. As always, if you enjoyed the show, be a friend, tell a friend. If you didn't, tell them anyways, they might like it. Just because you didn't. That's gonna do it for me and I will see y'all next week.