SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hello Slovakia, ahoy, akosvamash. Really good to be here. Um when I see you guys as well, and I just think about what always comes to mind is the service that you guys are put in. It's usually the godfathers, but here we have the godmothers. These are the godmothers here of recovery. Because the early early members sometimes have to keep going when it feels like it's it's gonna end. Do you know what I mean? I think sometimes it just takes a bit of something you guys could tell them to say more. It just takes a bit extra sometimes to keep it going. So that always think about that before we come to Slovakia. So I guess it relates to the topic of no matter what, people have stayed here, no matter what, until people come. So it's an important topic. And I've seen people in your fellowship who haven't had meetings, they've had to channel to break as lava or go online. Do you know what I mean? But again, it's you can always find a way. If you're determined you want to get sober, there's always a way.

SPEAKER_01 2:09

Musíte byť odhodlany to tak robiť.

SPEAKER_00 2:16

That was really nice.

SPEAKER_01 2:19

Robol som s nikým kroky na Slovensku a vlastne aby sme mohli robiť kroky, tak som musel priletieť na lietadlom. To bolo príjemné, milé.

SPEAKER_00 2:29

The reality is that NA saved my life. There's no. It's not even questionable. That's just the reality. I just heard something can read and it just hit me. But at the same time, not get too overwhelmed with I'm experienced trauma and trying to try to make it like it's so heavy, because it's not, it isn't, it isn't. It felt like it, you know, using was my destiny.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

Navidel som jeho život, to ako bral drogi, akik mal kamaráto, jeho životný štýl, nenavidel som, že sa predavkovával, prostě celou to vecch neznašel.

SPEAKER_00 4:26

So although I know how shit it was and how disgusted I was by it, as soon as somebody offered me a drug, I couldn't put my hand up quick enough. And I've never said no to any drug. It doesn't matter if it's glue, her it doesn't matter what it is. We're not going to talk about substances, but from the school substances, teenage substances, no, I've never said no to anything. Let's put it that way.

SPEAKER_01 4:57

A aby som to skrátil, tak nikdy som nepovedal niečo žiadne látke, nebudem ich tu menovať.

SPEAKER_00 5:03

So everything I learned in this program was just. It was so easy for me to absorb. You're powerless.

SPEAKER_01 5:11

Bolo pre mňa láske niektoré veci tu prijať v programme, lebo tu my povedal, že si bezmocný a že však jasne, že som bezmocný.

SPEAKER_00 5:17

So I've not really had any problem with the concepts of recovery, they just seem so perfect.

SPEAKER_01 5:23

Nikdy som nemusel bojovať s nejakými konceptmi toho uzdravovania a prišli mi úplne dokonale. Takže keď sa má tá baba od vás, ktorá tu robí službu, pýtala, že ako temu by som si vybral, tak hneď mi prišlo, že proste nechcade čokoľvek, lebo to je vec, ktorá sa som notiahne na to my od prvého dňa, čo som sem prišiel. Bol som na meetinku a asi som sa sťažoval na všetky problemy to mam v živote.

SPEAKER_00 6:19

And self-pity was my it was like my badge of honor. Having people to feel sorry for me, oh my life of shit, this, that, and the other.

SPEAKER_01 6:45

A niekto ko mňa prišel a povedalymi, že nemusíš si dať nechceť čokoľvek. Ten človek mi toto povedal vlastne pred 23, 24 rokmi. Teraz som s ním hovoril s tým človekom a vlastne tie jeho slova tam stále sú. ťažko to popísať, čo to je pre mňa znamená.

SPEAKER_00 7:20

You've just got to not pick up the pick up, this is the only way you can succeed, really.

SPEAKER_01 7:27

A vlastne nechcem sa tu ukazať nejaký expert na uzelovanie. A to je vlastne to najdôležtejšie uzdravenie.

SPEAKER_00 7:42

We've all got to share the same sort of problems, really. Mine are not special.

SPEAKER_01 7:55

Všetci prežívame vlastne rovnaké problémy, že ani či je potrebné o tom hovoriť. Prostě naši rodičia zostanú sú chorí, ľudia od nás odchádzajú alebo prichádzame o nich. To uzdravanie prezentovať takým pekným spôsobom, pekne zabalené, ale pravda je, že to niekedy bude sa bolieť.

SPEAKER_00 8:23

Like hurt, like you're having your skin ripped off. Just raw pain. Real pain.

SPEAKER_01 8:28

Niekedy taká bolest, jakby by vám niekto zaživa, trhal koju stela. Fuck taká surová bolest.

SPEAKER_00 8:34

Sometimes there's no, well no substance to take it away, no person to take it away. You know, you've just got to feel those feelings.

SPEAKER_01 9:41

A vlastne jej telo proste vyplo. A vlastne to vlastne hovorím o tých následkoch môj bránne, že vlastne jedného človeka som dostal na starosť a ja som mi vlastne zničil život. Prešial som asi dvomi rokmi fakt z hlbokej depresie, keď som začal vlastne si uvedomať, že čo som vlastne spôsobil ľuďom okolo seba.

SPEAKER_00 10:39

Even my neighbors, everyone. There was no exceptions.

SPEAKER_01 10:44

A nikomu sa to nevyhlo.

SPEAKER_00 10:52

But you know, the beautiful thing about recovery is just to be honest with yourself. You know, if you're at this moment in time a shit person, if you're disgusted with yourself, it's a good thing. That's a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 11:09

Tak si proste nahovno človek, orou si všetky náhravné veci. To je vlastne dobré, že to priznať.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

This is a program of action and change and courage. Please, God, give me the serverity.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

A vlastne sa to je to, čo sa tu vlastne akoby modlíme vlastne stále, že aj na každom vlastne meetingu, že aby sme dostali proste odvahu z mayo sme im môžeme a aby sme dostali duševný pokoj alebo vyrovnanosť. To je strašne vlastne moc modlitba.

SPEAKER_00 11:52

It's like, God, please.

SPEAKER_01 12:03

Iba keď premyšľamo modlido vyrovnosť, tak to mi úplne odstreliť dekal vždy, že proste, že bože, prosím ťa, že ty si jediný, čo mi môžeš pomôcť navráť nejaké dušené zdravie, lebo ja som úplne sa strátil. Proste, keď sa vykašľate na všetky výhovorky, ale len sa budete držať proste toho, že nedaj si nechsať jej čokoľvek, tak život vám prinese veľa darov. A vlastne si pamiętam, ten stav mysli počas toho bránia, že proste máš pocit, že furť všetko ako že sa ti len zlede a taký šedý mrakstebou ide, proste nič sa ti nemôže podariť, nechci, že ne hrobíš čokoľvek.

SPEAKER_00 13:01

It's like being lost in the desert and trying to. I'm okay, I know where to go. It's like you know, you don't really, just gotta be honest.

SPEAKER_01 13:15

Pre mňa to bránie bolo ako keby človek bol v púšti, sám niekde v strede púšťa a hovoril, že ja viemka idem, ale vlastne netušíš proste kde si.

SPEAKER_00 13:26

This is not my message, this is just things I've learned in recovery.

SPEAKER_01 13:30

Ale vám bolo jasné, toto není nejaký môj osobný odkaz, to sú veci, čo som sa naučil v uzdraví. Keď som prišel, mal som opäť fakt zamrazené emocie.

SPEAKER_00 13:44

I mean when I actually hear words like relationships and love and all these words I heard in recovery, I felt like I wanted to vomit. I mean, it's just anything good was just. It was nice to sort of hold her hand and speak to her and you know what I mean? Just behave like a normal human being. It was nice.

SPEAKER_01 17:09

Fu pekné.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

So no, it's the total opposite. We can really touch people's lives. You know, we can save someone's life by staying sober. That's why it's really important not to pick up, because we need someone to hold the flag. And if you want me to lay it out very simply, that's let's say that's rule number one. And rule number two, don't forget rule number one. This is probably something special, I think, in Sebakes. It's hard to put it into words. It's just a very um it's just like a loving fellowship, really. If people that do anything for each other, it's like it's quite unique. And a lot of it is about carrying the message. I mean, you know, if any of you get the opportunity, go to see Fazo in the prison. I've been there myself a couple of times, seen his beautiful paintings on the wall.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

Okay, okay. Sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 19:25

No problem. Go to peasinok if it's still going, I'm sure peasinok's still going.

SPEAKER_01 19:31

Uh sure, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:32

Yeah, go to pezzinok. Prednahore.

SPEAKER_01 19:35

Prednahora, yeah. Just go in there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:39

Go out and do some service. That's what it's about.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

Uh pezinok dúfam, že stela funguje a no funguje a prednahora, uhťa robte nejakú službu.

SPEAKER_00 19:50

I really miss those places. And the people that we meet there.

SPEAKER_01 19:56

A v ľudiach, ktoríli.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

But you know, I would love to think I'm the most important person, but I'm not the most important person, it's a newcomer.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

Rád by som si myslel, že som tá najdlhšia osoba, ale nie som. Je to ten nováčik a naozaj sme tu pre vás, pre tých nových ľudí.

SPEAKER_00 20:40

We need you to show up, we need you to speak, tell us where you're at. Let us love you. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 20:52

Dovolte nám milovať vás.

SPEAKER_00 20:55

The newcomers are the most precious thing that we've got, and without newcomers, we haven't got anything. Because you know we need to keep carrying the mission of recovery. We need the meetings to keep going. We need to see ourselves again in a meeting. Just a remind as a reminder. I think stuff like gratitude, service, these things are so important in recovery as well. I don't want to just talk for the sake of talking, but I'm hoping there's something that you can kind of just hold on to.

SPEAKER_01 23:27

Necem len takať, aby som kecal, ale dúfam, že tu padlo niečo, čo sa môžete tak pridržať.

SPEAKER_00 23:34

So I'll just think all the only all else I can do is just send some love to Slovakia really. I think you can feel it through the screen. That's all I can really do.

SPEAKER_01 23:42

Jediné, čo môžem naozaj poslať, teda urobiť a vlastne poslať vám nejakú lásku na slovenskú cestu obrazovku. Dúfam, že to môžete, že to cítite.

SPEAKER_00 23:51

I'll leave it there. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 23:52

Thank you so much. A tu už to necham ďakujem. Díky Malt. Thank you so much.