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Surviving Trauma: Stories of Hope
Surviving Trauma: Stories of Hope
Unlocking Happiness and Spiritual Growth with Rich Nisbet: From Metaphysical Insights to End-of-Life Conversations
Unlock the secrets to lasting happiness and spiritual growth with life and metaphysical coach Rich Nisbet. From being inspired by The Beatles to uplifting people through music and coaching, Rich shares his journey and the profound impact of the metaphysical on our lives. You'll learn how love, beauty, and artistic expression go beyond the physical realm to bring about true transformation and healing.
Discover the power of multiple answer questions in coaching sessions, as Rich illustrates their effectiveness with personal anecdotes and examples. Learn how recalling childhood memories can bring new awareness and realizations, helping individuals process hidden traumas and reclaim their present. Rich emphasizes the importance of ending sessions on a positive note, leaving clients with a sense of hope and empowerment.
Dive into the emotional and practical aspects of end-of-life conversations with insights from Rich's book "When It's Time." Understand the significance of meaningful communication and heartfelt letters during a loved one's final days. Rich also explores the fascinating world of out-of-body experiences, shedding light on their implications for our understanding of consciousness and memory. This episode is packed with transformative insights and practical guidance for personal growth, healing, and spiritual understanding.
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Hi there, I'm your host, marlene McConnell, and welcome to the Surviving Trauma Stories of Hope podcast. This is the show where we explore the depths of human experience healing, growth and transformation. Today, we have a truly inspiring guest, rich Nisbet. Rich is a life and metaphysical coach and the author of a transformative book. When it's Time. Coach and the author of a transformative book when it's Time steps to help someone at the end of life die with peace and dignity, while providing guidance and reassurance to everyone else. His work has deeply impacted thousands of lives, guiding individuals and their loved ones through one of life's most challenging journeys.
Speaker 1:In addition to his coaching, rich is a lifelong musician whose work has even been licensed by Kanye West. He has spent the first third of his life immersed in music, the second third in counseling and coaching, and now he's merging all these passions to create a unique approach to personal growth and transformation. Rich believes that to change any life situation for the better, one must elevate themselves for a broader perspective, a view that often reveals the metaphysical qualities within all of us. Rich also hosts his own podcast it's the Question, where he dives into thought-provoking discussions aimed at helping others discover and enhance their true selves. Join us today as we delve into Rich's experiences, insights and methods for elevating oneself to achieve a more fulfilling life.
Speaker 1:The episode was so much fun to record and my listeners. I know that you will absolutely enjoy listening to our conversation. Thank you to my listeners for joining me on this journey. Comment on the posts on Instagram, facebook, linkedin and YouTube and let me know what you think of this episode and YouTube and let me know what you think of this episode. Also, head to amazoncom, audible or takealotcom and get your copy of my book Ray of Light, and please leave me a rating and review. It would mean the world to me, as always. Stay tuned and keep listening. Hi Rich, welcome to the Surviving Trauma Stories of Hope podcast. How are you doing?
Speaker 2:I'm really excited to be talking with you. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1:It's wonderful, I'm so glad, it's amazing to have you here with me and I'm excited for our conversation. Like, you've got such an interesting background. We talk about, you know, music, we talk about art and yeah, so I can't wait to dive in. So you're out in nashville uh, they say they call it the music city and uh, yeah, I always think of elvis, I think of music, I think of you know, rock and roll when I think of Nashville. Yeah, that's definitely a state that I'm going to visit the next time I'm in the US.
Speaker 2:Oh, good, good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So you've got such a unique blend of just experiences, specifically music, and, you know, sort of life coaching. How do these two worlds intersect when it comes to your work?
Speaker 2:Have you heard of the word metaphysical?
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, all right, I'm familiar with the word. I just want to.
Speaker 2:I use that word instead of spiritual, because spiritual has so many meanings religious, new age but I like the word metaphysical. Now, if we look at the word meta, it means beyond, and if we look at the word physical, what's physical, Physical is energy existing in space, going through a change in a medium we call time.
Speaker 2:Right so anything physical has energy and it's changing all the time and it's condensed or it's flowing, but it's moving all the time and we measure it by time. It takes that rabbit four minutes to run from there to there. So anything physical that's what that is Now metaphysical means beyond physical. What's beyond physical, what's beyond physical, it's a realm that a lot of people call home.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:People who have died and come back near death say they feel like they go home. They're not in the physical realm anymore, they're in metaphysical realm, and in that realm there is love, there is beauty, there is artistic sounds and colors and meeting up with people they used to. So there's all of this stuff that we cannot perceive in these little bodies with these little brains, in these little bodies with these little brains. So metaphysical means not within our realm, but it's always there.
Speaker 1:It's there all the time.
Speaker 2:And when it comes to trauma, trauma is involved with us in these bodies, in this time, in this physical format. So if you can start viewing your metaphysical self, the trauma seems much less than it does if you're stuck in your body, all worried about it, right? That's why music and art and exercise all of those things help people move out of their physical problems into a higher, above it all, format and they can start negotiating their problems from a different perspective. That's a long explanation for how I got into this. I saw the yeah, I saw the beatles on television when I was in fourth grade and they were up there playing and these girls and all the people were screaming and so happy and I went, wow, music can make people happy. I want to do that. So I got a guitar and I started playing in a band and we recorded songs and wrote them and we had a lot of people being happy.
Speaker 2:But after years of doing music and people becoming happy at our concerts, I knew they were going home back to their problems, though it was a temporary happiness. So I was introduced to the idea of being a life coach and I'm like 23 years old, I'm like, what's that like? And the person explained it to me and I started studying it and I started thinking, wow, if I could become a life coach, I can help people permanently become happy, and that's how those two things came together. And then later I found out, like we're talking about that metaphysical realm. That's where beauty is, that's where love is, that's where all that stuff is. And if we can, if we can align our coaching to that, it goes way faster.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was doing research and I came across some of the writings, some of your writings, and you speak about the importance of sort of elevating oneself, which I guess, again it touches on this metaphysical aspect of of healing. So the fastest, you say, the fastest way to change any life situation is to elevate oneself above it all, and in doing so you'll attain a wider, more responsible view of it.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And in that process you begin to sort of tap into that metaphysical sort of the beyond the physical, what you've just described to me, those qualities in yourself, Yep, Are these two directly connected or do you have to sort of access it in a way that is beyond the physical?
Speaker 2:world. I was thinking about therapy and religion and self-help. The one common thing all of them have is trying to get you out of a certain paradigm that you're stuck in and elevating you out of that paradigm into another one.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all of them, and there's different techniques on doing that Right. I happen to come across a very beautiful technique where I don't have to give advice, where I give questions have to give advice, where I give questions and my questions are designed to get a person to look at something from way different viewpoints and by doing that their awareness increases and they can solve their problems or their trauma much easier than if they're stuck in it.
Speaker 1:There's almost that distance that almost gives that objectivity to what the issue is, because it's not subjective, you're not in it, but it becomes more objective if you take that step back it but it becomes more objective.
Speaker 2:If you take that step back, you're 100%. You know. If I said to you recall a moment of trauma and you went. Well, when I was in high school, my boyfriend was very mean. Well, you are already putting space between you and that time period. You are actually taking yourself out of it by admitting that it is not happening now. Right, it's a powerful, it's a very powerful process. One of my techniques is called a multiple answer question. A multiple answer question, a multiple answer question, is a question that you can use in life coaching, where that could have many different answers. Like remember a time when you were young? Yes, of course.
Speaker 1:What did you think of when I said well, I thought about a range and that was the first thought. The first thought was there was a range because when I was young and it was sort of a range of being a child. And then the second thought was now I need to narrow down to see you know what exactly in the range you would like me to reference.
Speaker 2:That's so cool that you that's the range was the first answer. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:All right, let's do it.
Speaker 1:So the answer was really like I had nothing. I had nothing to tell you about, to tell you about that area.
Speaker 2:Okay, listen to me, that was perfect. What happened there? And this is how people get in trouble they try to analyze their stuff too much instead of just. Well, I got a range. All right, let's do three more. Recall a time when you were young.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:When'd you get that time?
Speaker 1:Actually something I spoke about recently. My mom reprimanded me for teasing a classmate.
Speaker 2:Good Recall, a time when you were young.
Speaker 1:I ran out and I fed the chickens.
Speaker 2:Good, very good. I have five chickens too, so do you see that we could do this for two hours? Yeah, and the beautiful part about a multiple answer question is that if we kept going and you kept coming up with answers well, when I was this way, when I was that, pretty soon you've got now an overview of your youth and things will shift and you'll have an enlightened realization or cognition or a new awareness of that subject, and when that happens, we're done with that question.
Speaker 1:What sort of time frame do you generally see with your clients to have this epiphany or this recognition, or you know this realization in the treatment?
Speaker 2:Well, I would say, depending on how, if it's a heavy loss or heavy physical trauma, it might take an hour, but if we're approaching it on different angles, it could take 10 minutes, another five minutes and then 15 minutes. We do three or four different of these multiple answer questions. Yes, and then every session I've ever done ends in happiness oh, they're all happy. Okay, we're done. I don't do it by time, I do it by getting them to a great point and then I'll see you next week, kind of thing.
Speaker 1:Great point, and then I'll see you next week, kind of thing, and do you incorporate music into the into your sessions or are they sort of now exclusive?
Speaker 2:It's one or the other, or do you blend them? I don't have anything other than my our communication in our sessions just like you and I just did yeah, music and that stuff. If they go home and start listening to music and this new awareness, that's good for them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you've mentioned these sort of transformative experiences that often happen during these activities that you have and the conversations that you have with your clients. And the conversations that you have with your clients, can you share sort of a personal example where you found, or a success story where you found, that to be true?
Speaker 2:Yes, Now, in moments of loss and pain, we make decisions. We make decisions and those decisions are engulfed with emotional charge. They're buried. They are buried in the trauma and we don't realize it. But we operate in our life based on the decision that was made at the time, but we're not aware of it. Let me give an example. You're three years old. You get bit by a dog. The dog is, you can smell his breath. You hear people get away. You feel the pain in your arm. You feel the fear emotionally and you make a decision that dogs are bad. Well, they grab you, bring you in the house, put the Band-Aid on. You're crying. Next day you feel a little bit better. Next day you go to school. You tell your friends Now you grow up, You're 30 years old, You're a kid, you have two kids and they go Daddy, we want to get a puppy. Okay, puppy reactivates. Dogs are bad.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Now, what's weird about this? We've got the subconscious mind that holds the trauma and we have our logical mind. So I want to get a puppy. Dogs are bad. You start feeling that fear again. Maybe you start feeling your arm hurting a little bit from the reactivation and you tell your, you tell your daughter, you know we're not getting a dog.
Speaker 2:You know your, your logical mind is trying to figure out why all this stuff's going on. And the logic of mind goes well, the dogs are expensive, it's going to cost food, you don't have time to walk it, I'll be cleaning up after you're. Just, you're too young to have a dog. We'll talk about it later. And they're they're looking at you like what's wrong with him. But your logical mind has made it okay. So then you go to sessions. You go to a session and you confront the trauma with certain techniques and all of a sudden you're back in it and you remember the decision. Oh my God, oh my God. I was so freaked out. That's when I decided dogs were no good, dogs were bad. Oh my God, no wonder my dog. Oh my God. And now they're all happy. That memory is now not traumatic. They can remember it, but it doesn't have all that charge in it. Right Now they can live their life and get a dog or not get a dog. They're not driven by that old, old decision.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Now do you know what this girl was real? She remembered an incident when she was in her crib and her parents were fighting violently and her crib got knocked over during the fight and she landed on the floor. A little baby, right that?
Speaker 2:she she, she remembered. It's not the same as memory, it's just this imprint that she was in and we're talking about. I'm saying well, tell me what happened, go on. And she said her parents are fighting, her dad hit the mom. She's on the floor crying and she hears the mother say I will never have another child with you.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:All right Now. She had been trying to get pregnant for, I think, five to six years. She was married like five or six years and they were trying to get pregnant and nothing was happening.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:When she found the decision I'll never have another child with you. That was said by the dad, but in the mind it's like a decision I'll never have another child. After that session, the next month she missed her period and now she has three children. Now we could say it's coincidence.
Speaker 1:The power of the mind, that's mind over matter big time.
Speaker 1:Big time. And that is the power, that's how powerful it is when you can isolate these old decisions that you forgot, you're operating off of now. Recognize those memories because they're buried, like you say, they're under the supercharged and they're buried so deep away that we all don't even know that they exist within us. But it's only with these open-ended questions that we actually manage to uncover them. It's such a great technique, rich, because it really allows you to sort of start with a blank canvas, like what happened earlier. Correct, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you're operating based on old decisions, you're not in the present, now decisions, you're not in the present now. So you don't have the ability to recognize. Now you're stuck in that old thing.
Speaker 1:So if you can uncover it and go oh that's stupid, I don't need to have that anymore, right, and I think it's so important to find the right place for those memories in your past. Right, because if you know this forms part of my history, this is part of my past and that is now where it lives, then it becomes easier, I think, to live in the present moment, because you can understand that imprint that you have, you can understand the feelings associated with it or the decision that's associated with it, like you mentioned, and you can also know what that feels like. So you can know how limiting it is for you in your life, like your client who's been trying to have a child all this time. So you can actually now know how that can impact your life if you bring it into your present. Yep, right, you bring it into the present. So the importance, I guess, is that finding that place for it in your past, but knowing that it exists there, but also knowing that you do not choose to bring that into your present.
Speaker 2:Well, you're right and, like we talked about, you can remember it. You can analytically remember what happened, but you don't have all of that junk hitting you about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like, I know an example of the little boy that grabbed the pot. It was boiling water all over. I know an example of the little boy that was grabbed the pot. It was boiling water all over. You know, yeah, okay, so it's interesting Emotionally. A client will start describing that trauma apathetically Apathy, low, hopeless. Right In my session they'll be like yeah, I was coming and I wanted to get something, so I grabbed the pot so I could climb up and grab my toy on the counter, and then, you know, all over me, Okay, tell me about it again. Well, I came in and now he starts crying, right, all the grief is coming out of him.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And now he goes and gets angry. Why would my mother have a stupid pot of boiling water when I'm only four?
Speaker 1:years old.
Speaker 2:And he's blaming his mom for his kid. I said let's go through it again, Tell me again. Now he's getting bored. Yeah, whatever, I just go in there Now. You don't stop there, you got to keep going until they get happy. And all of a sudden he says oh my God, that's when I said I can't trust my parents. Oh my God, my mother. I love my mother, but I've always got this thing with her and it always makes us fight and I can trust her. Now that was so stupid.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh Ridge.
Speaker 2:It's ridiculous. Yeah, see, you get up to that metaphysical awareness of the scene. Right Used to be all energy charged, now it's this spiritual, metaphysical. Ha ha, ha ha. I don't have to trust my mother anymore, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is like so incredible, everything that you've you've explained to me and just how, with prompts and the correct guidance and the correct questions, you can really unlock so much within your mind. But I think when we talk about the metaphysical, there are people who are listening who you know perhaps have some reservations about the metaphysical who say okay, well you know, this is a bit of a focus. Focus. Where's the metaphysical? You know we don't quite believe in that. So what would you say are some of the common misconceptions?
Speaker 2:Do you ever go for a walk in nature and feel bigger than when you did in your house? Do you ever look at the stars at night and have an amazing feeling that we are in a universe? Do you ever listen to music and start crying for no reason? Do you ever wake up in the morning with a melody in your head? Do you ever go rock climbing and feel time is slowed down? All of that stuff's metaphysical. It's all like an entrance point into it. I have a website called Above it All 360, music, motorcycles and the metaphysical. See music, motorcycles and the metaphysical, because music and art and gardening and things like that that are creative. I've talked to people that say, yeah, I was writing a paper and it started writing itself. I don't know where that came from. I just wrote this whole thing, okay where's that coming from?
Speaker 1:What are you connected to?
Speaker 2:What are you connected to? What are you connected to? It's metaphysical, so it's not something to be scared of. It's there right now and you're just bringing your awareness up to seeing it and acknowledging it.
Speaker 1:So then we can say that we basically all have this within us. We all have the ability to connect in that way.
Speaker 2:Let me tell you something this is amazing to me. There's a book by Dr Bruce Grayson who studied near-death experiences. He was a scientist. He didn't believe in anything spiritual, but something happened where he was aware of a person who died and then came back and started talking about it and he was freaked out because a lot of the stuff she said she could see, but her eyes were closed during the operation.
Speaker 1:She was above it and she explained things in the room that she wouldn't.
Speaker 2:Anyway, there's so much proof on this thing. Yeah, and he wrote this book. He says well, how could somebody be on a, a gurney dead, flatlining dead, and then come back and describe what they saw? How can that happen and why does that happen? The, the brain, is dead, but they come back saying, oh my God, I met up with relatives that are long gone and I talked to my cousin who I'd never met. That filters out all of these metaphysical frequencies and sight and hearing colors and only provides us with enough to live and survive as an animal on this planet.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:It's like a radio. What if the radio had all of the stations coming at once? No, you've got to filter out everything except that one so you can listen Right. The brain is filtering out all that stuff that's there Right, and art and activity in nature that breaks through the filter and now you start seeing that stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you have such a great understanding of this rich and I mean I guess you know it doesn't surprise me at all, because you also help people that are embarking on their end of life journeys.
Speaker 2:All right, yeah, yeah, I wrote a book. I wrote that book, I got.
Speaker 1:When it's time yes.
Speaker 2:It says steps to help someone at the end of life die with peace and dignity. What happened is in the year 2000,. I had a client and he said he said my grandma is in the hospital. She's not doing well For three weeks. Her tongue is out of her mouth, she can't talk, Her skin's purple, she's in pain and writhing anxiety. She's been like that for three weeks. She's in a hospital situation and he goes. Is there anything I can do for her?
Speaker 2:And I thought, well, let me think about it, Because I had never even considered this idea. So what I did is I just wrote down anxiety, fear, disorientation. So I wrote six steps that would stabilize her, maybe get her attention on, maybe she has attention on things. Anyway, bottom line is he went to the hospital. He did the first three steps. Her tongue went back in her mouth, Her skin turned normal color, she started talking with him. He asked her if she had attention on something. He would take care of it. He asked her is there anybody you'd like me to get a message to? Yeah, I wrote down. Try to find out what her attention is on and tell her you'll take care of it, Because people at the end of life will hang on to that decayed body and not let go. Yeah Well, after four steps, the nurse and his mother and aunt came back in the room and looked at her and she was talking and her skin was normal. They're like what'd you do to her?
Speaker 2:And they had a nice conversation for a couple hours and she died peacefully that afternoon. She was dying, but she couldn't die, and so he did those steps and she was gone.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I thought, well, that's cool. But he went and started telling everybody. I was in Chicago, he started telling all of these people and I started getting calls my mom, my dad, my uncle, my grandma. So I'm starting writing all this stuff and eventually I said I should put this in a book, because nobody really knows what to do. It's just common sense. But nobody has any common sense when it comes to death. Everyone freaks out yeah, so there's so many stories about that. We could go in for days. But it's really, it's true, it's really. You know, if you can understand death and how to help someone pass away peacefully, oh, my God, god, you understand life much more thoroughly than if you just if you don't even touch that realm no, go ahead, go ahead well you know what you know someone here, someone's someone's my mom is dying.
Speaker 2:Everybody says I'll pray for you. I'm so sorry for your loss, but now they don't have to say that they can go. Here's how you can help her, or I can come over and help her. Yeah, with actual, effective steps.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think sometimes you know the that dying soul is also just waiting for everyone to to leave the room to go away.
Speaker 2:How did you know there's a chapter?
Speaker 1:personal experience with a chapter called Leave the Room.
Speaker 2:It says leave the room.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I swear to God because do you like people watching you go to the bathroom?
Speaker 1:No, yeah, yes, nobody likes that, so yeah, so grandma's laying in bed.
Speaker 2:I mean yeah, so grandma's laying in bed.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, people don't like to die with a whole room full of people, because I think, rich, if we talk about the metaphysical, there is so much support for them from the spirit world already that the room is packed. And then you pack all the physical people in there too. It's too much.
Speaker 2:You're a hundred percent right and also you don't want to create an upset. You know, if the 10 year old grandchild is looking at you and you die, right there, she's going to be crying. It's going to be horrible, so going to be horrible. So you wait till everyone leaves and goes for dinner and then you take off, so you don't create an upset yeah yeah, there's so many stories but I I was browsing and I found such lovely reviews for your book, rich.
Speaker 1:I want to share this with the listeners because, yeah, this one I thought was so, so, so, spot on. And it says the book is called when it's Time and it says I like the book's premise which was trying to help people make their relative or friend not sweat the dying process. I wish I had read it before my father died.
Speaker 1:I wish I had read it before my father died. I was at a loss how to keep him comfortable and at ease. This is a well thought out book on dying and the way to help. Yeah, rick, for me that says it all, you know. In a nutshell, it's for family members and relatives and the book is just spot on.
Speaker 1:It's a practical book that can help you, yeah, at the time when you need it most, because most people are at a loss at that time and they feel very helpless. You know, and this is a book that can certainly. You know, even if one person in the family knows about it reads the book, can help and can provide some guidance to the rest, and that's all you need. You don't need the whole family reading, you just need one person to read and give that comfort and that guidance.
Speaker 2:You're right 100%. Can I tell you a really quick story? Of course there's a chapter in here called the Letter. Now what do you think the number one regret is from everybody when somebody dies?
Speaker 1:They didn't say goodbye properly. People will say that.
Speaker 2:You hit it what they wish they could have said, but now they'll never be able to have the chance, okay, so the letter talks about how to do this. If someone's dying, you have to contact all their friends and family all over the world and country, Email them, tell them to email you a one-page letter saying all the good times that you had, how they helped you, how they inspired you, funny, funny moments. Keep it to one page, don't put your loss in there, and I I will compile all these letters and put them in a book and read it to the dying person that's fantastic.
Speaker 1:That is so beautiful.
Speaker 2:It's amazing, because you can bring the book to the funeral too, and people who didn't get a chance can read all the letters about it. Now it kills two birds with one stone. Number one it gives closure. I know, Ron, that's a lot.
Speaker 1:Rich, I know you said that kills two birds with one stone, but it's, it's true. I mean, you know when you've got to write everything for the memorial service and you've got to have just content that you want to share it's. You know, people are falling around to get information and to get loved ones to write something or get something. But again, this just sets everything up so nicely. You don't have that uncertainty and there's so much leading after the death, leading up to the funeral, that a lot of that time is spent writing the eulogy, finding information, looking for photographs, looking for family, friends and things like that. Yeah, it's such a beautiful gesture and it's completely like two birds with one stone.
Speaker 2:Well, it provides closure for everybody, all the friends and family. Yeah. Because now they get to say it, the world for everybody, all the friends and family, because now they get to say it and it. It also helps the dying person hear that their purpose on earth was fulfilled, that they actually created good for everybody.
Speaker 2:Now. Yeah, okay, here's what happened. This woman on the east coast, um in coast in the United States, read the book and she knew of her best friend in Arizona, which is across the country. Her husband was dying. His name was Lee, Right.
Speaker 2:So she read the letter and threw down my book and went to Lee's Facebook page and found all his friends and wrote them. You need to send me a one-page letter of all the cool things you and Lee did together and how he inspired you and how he helped you, and any funny stories and keep it to one page. She followed it. So she got all these letters from all these people on the Facebook and she didn't go to Kinko's and print up a little book. She went to Shutterfly. She took pictures from Facebook of everybody, different fonts. She had a $100 coffee table book said letters to Lee. Now she didn't tell her friend. She sent the book to her friend. Her friend's in the kitchen, opens the book, Letters to Lee. Oh my God, Lee, he's in the bedroom like in hospice, right. She goes, look at Lee and starts reading all these things to Lee, all these beautiful letters to him. Yeah, Two weeks he got to and then he died. Now it's not the end of the story.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Apparently, lee was in a multimedia video marketing company. He owned it, yeah. So at the memorial, the funeral, everybody walked in the church, sat down, the lights went black, a huge screen came down, boom, there's Lee on a video going. I read all your letters to me and now here's my letter back to all of you and he ran. Oh my gosh, he did his own memorial. Oh my gosh, he did his own memorial.
Speaker 1:That is legendary. Now that is one for the books.
Speaker 2:Oh no, he went out in, in, in truly style oh the best right, yeah, yeah, everyone was crying and laughing. He was, he sang songs, he prayed with everybody. He said hey, that fish was not that big. You're lying about this. Yeah, I was so happy to hear that absolutely, but it's also you know.
Speaker 1:you know it sounds like such a celebration of life, and I mean even in death. He could participate in that celebration. Rich, I could speak to you for another hour, but I wanted just to talk to you about some of the amazing resources that you have on your website.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'll tell you what's happened. When COVID hit, yeah, I couldn't see face-to-face anymore. They had restrictions, right, you can't. So I'm like, how am I going to help my clients? So you know what I did. I took those questions. I talked about the multiple answer questions, yes, and some of my trauma techniques, and I compiled about a hundred.
Speaker 2:I call them achievements. These achievements are on a PDF and I can send them to somebody and they can process themselves. Yeah, because, how, how it works. Here's some information behind it. Here's what to expect, here's how to do it. Get, get a journal and answer these questions. How recall a time when you were young, when I was, and when you hit that epiphany, you end off on that achievement and go to the next one, right, and I did a pilot program where I had people doing these achievements and then they would write if they didn't understand something or I needed to clarify. And I got all of these wins from people. I was doing it for free, it was all free, and I had people email me saying I want to pay you. My life has completely changed. I want to pay you for what?
Speaker 1:you've done.
Speaker 2:And I'm like, okay, well, I guess this is going to work. And the nice thing about it is, Marlene, I don't have to charge what it costs to go to a therapist. You know, you can drive in your car, go to the office, sit there and spill your guts to some therapists and pay all this money, or you can get the achievements sent to you and do them on your own.
Speaker 1:Mm, hmm, yeah, and also I mean, can you maybe also because I found that you have a book club either books that are common around this theme can also be very helpful. It also can give different perspectives. You want to perhaps just elaborate on your book club and when that takes place.
Speaker 2:Well, the book club is just books that I recommend. That's pretty much what it is, and I really recommend that one about near-death experiences.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Because when someone's stuck in trauma from this lifetime and they start reading about people who died and came back and what their viewpoint is, it changes you. It changes what's important in my life For me to hold on to my trauma or for me to move on and experience life and the happiness that life can give us. You know some people who try to kill themselves and they come back. Yeah, they come back like I was so stupid to want to kill myself. I'm not afraid of death, but I don't want to kill myself either. I mean it changes.
Speaker 1:I will go when the time is right. And you know, and I've done everything here that I came to do, yes, and they see that it's not a solution.
Speaker 2:Killing yourself is not a solution because you're not ever going to. I mean, I don't know what you believe, but when the body expires, what happens to you?
Speaker 1:The soul continues. The soul journey still is on Big time.
Speaker 2:So, whatever problem you're trying to escape, you're going to still have it as a spirit, and they say that past lives. They say that future lives. If you hadn't figured it out yet, you got to go try it again, Right?
Speaker 1:It's true, and so you know, and I mean, and from what I understand, like you know, a lot of those type of spirits. You know they. There are others who meet them on the other side and have to work with them because they haven't quite done and figured everything out here and so they chose to make that transition in that way. But the work doesn't end because this physical life has ended, Correct. The work continues on the other other side, from what I understand, and in some of those cases it carries on for years, like 10, 15 years. First of all, let me also just say, Rich, I don't understand spiritual time. I don't understand how that works, because it doesn't work like our time. It doesn't you go and say one year, two years, three hours. It doesn't work like that.
Speaker 2:That's why I said it's beyond time, it's beyond physical, beyond matter energy space time. Have you ever heard of a life review?
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, I've heard of it.
Speaker 2:Okay, you should read these accounts of their life review. Now listen to this. Their life review is done in minute detail, all the incidents of their life, but it only takes a millisecond. There's no time, like you said. Yeah, so they see their entire life in a millisecond, but they don't only see it from their vantage point.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They re-experience what effect they had on the other person. So they don't only remember hitting somebody. They feel the hit, they feel the blood in their mouth, they taste their humiliation. So they all see the effects they've had on other people. And that's when, when they come back, they no longer can be mean. They can't be a policeman anymore or be in the army to kill people. They have to be a teacher or a social worker. They all change their perspective because they know that they create effects on other people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think you know, if we, if you don't take that route to make that discovery, then I think our life struggles are there to also bring us that self point of self-discovery. Um and you and you know our experiences of incidents that could be traumatic. Also bring that for us.
Speaker 2:And they do say that they go. There's nothing that's happened to you, that isn't planned, that isn't there for you to learn from.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah that there's a method to everything in life.
Speaker 2:Yes, on my website I've got lots of stories of metaphysical stories and near-death people talk. You can listen to all these different stories about Paul McCartney from the Beatles. Yes, he talks about why you listen to classical music. There's no words. He talks about you listen to classical music. There's no words, it's just an orchestra and they do these certain and all of a sudden you start crying. Yeah, he goes. Why? Why do you cry when?
Speaker 1:you hear songs, it's moving.
Speaker 2:You're tapping, it's moving into that other and, like the near-death, people call it home. Yeah, yeah, those sounds are coming from somewhere else and it hits you like, oh, I'm going home. You know the word home is so in poetry and songs we're going home. I miss my home. Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz, I want to go home.
Speaker 1:Yes, now you've put an earworm in my head, oh, rich. Lastly, can you tell us just a quick about your podcast? Your podcast is called. It's the Question.
Speaker 2:Yep, and so what kind of topics do you explore and where can we find your podcast? The podcasts are getting put back up on. I had a hosting service that went out of business, so they are getting put back up on the same, like Apple and iTunes and all that stuff.
Speaker 2:Okay, and they also and my website has them all. Um, and it's interesting cause I'll ask a question and then people respond Like the first. I think the first question is um, have you ever been out of your body? Yeah, that's a very, very, very important question, an out-of-body experience. Millions of people have had that. But if you take it one step further, like if you can leave your body and you can see the environment and you can hear without your body's eyes or ears, what does that mean? What does it?
Speaker 1:mean indeed.
Speaker 2:And then if you could remember the experience, where are memories stored?
Speaker 1:Yeah, because it can't be in the brain Exactly, if you were out of the body.
Speaker 2:Yep, exactly the body and the brain out of the body yep, the body and the brain are physical. So if you can be like there's, there's girls that have, there's people that have had operations that are blind and they go out of their body and they can see the whole room and they've they describe all the doctors and all the what they were wearing and the instruments yeah and people freak.
Speaker 2:How did she know that? Okay, so you don't need your body's eyes to see. Yeah, the body is a limiting thing for us spiritually. So that's I keep pounding that, but that's the truth, yeah, yeah. And if you're a counselor and you, you have that in your base. You're always going to be pushing your clients to a beautiful result.
Speaker 2:You're not going to push them into. We need 300 years of therapy before you're ever going to get out of this situation you're in. You're a victim and it's horrible and we need to really investigate that and get all your feelings about it and all what you think. I'm like you could give one command get out of your body, and all of a sudden it's gone.
Speaker 1:It's true, and I mean you know just everything that you've, that we spoke about here today and and the success stories that you've shared with us today. I mean that proves it.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I think that sometimes also, you know we stand in our in our own way. You know, in those therapy sessions you know we see the places in our mind's eyes where we don't want to go and then we don't go there. But you know you help us really to unlock with these probing questions. It's not as if you're saying, okay, now tell me about that one time when that happened to you. But these probing questions that are that almost have the persistence Well, it doesn't almost have it. It does have the persistency to get to happiness before you can leave is really the key to the success of your work. Oh, wow, rich, I mean, yeah, you've taken us on such a beautiful journey to this today. You know, just talking about coaching, exploring the metaphysical, which is incredibly interesting from just a self-discovery perspective, and also just an understanding of the greater universe and our place in it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And yeah, and I mean your passion just for helping others to navigate their life, and whether it's in life and or making the transition from life to death, is just through either their toughest moments or, you know, their most shameful moments or their most painful moments, you know, but being there, it's just for me, let's see what. Watching you and seeing that passion, passion that you have is commendable, because I can see that the impact that you have is, it's just phenomenal on on on your client, and not just their lives but that of their families, you know, and you help them to find that peace and that dignity which is so important in um, in at that point of of end of life or or or point of transition, um, whether that transition is remaining in life. Um, yeah, and I mean you, you just reminded us again that when we elevate ourselves beyond our situations, we can really tap into something that is more profound and really understand who we are and connect to the things that we can achieve in this life and beyond our physical limitations. In this life and beyond our physical limitations Because, yeah, there's so much more beyond just what the eye can see and creating that awareness of that connection that we have to everything in the unseen. It's incredible, I think your life and your mind just expands tremendously if you can make that connection for yourself 100%, yeah, yeah, yeah. Make that connection for yourself A hundred percent, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So to the listeners, if you're interested in learning more about Rich's work, then be sure to check out his book when it's time and also just tune into his podcast. It's the question. You can find that on any of the podcast directories or you can check out his website, which I will link in the show notes below. We hope that you found this discussion today interesting and valuable and I hope that it can encourage you to explore, you know, just on your own journey towards personal growth and transformation. Rich, it's been awesome having you. Thank you so much for joining me. I've loved our time together.
Speaker 2:And you're welcome back anytime. Okay, thank you for having me, it was really fun.
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