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CONSISTENCY| Adapting for Success Through Every Season with Amy Lenius

• How do you divine? • Season 3 • Episode 11

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In this episode of we sit down with Amy Lenius to explore the true meaning of consistency and how it can transform lives. Amy shares her personal journey from dealing with a chronic health condition to becoming a successful director of group coaching at Next Level University. They discuss the key pillars of consistency: self-belief, humility, sustainability, adaptability, and grit. Amy also offers practical insights on setting realistic goals, navigating challenges, and maintaining a positive mindset. Tune in to discover how you can redefine consistency in your own life for lasting success and well-being.

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Sanika:

Welcome back to this episode of How Do You Divine, and today we are here with Amy Linus. Linus. Linus.

Amy Lenius:

I love the inflection. I love the, it's very,

Sanika:

I know how I. Today we are here with Amy Linus and we are going to explore how we've come to define consistency. And I think that is such a word that is used right Amy, across like so many different um, disciplines. But first, tell us a little bit about who is Amy, and thank you so much for being here.

Amy Lenius:

I'm so grateful to be here. I don't take this lightly. When someone allows me to come in on their platform to speak to their people, it's genuinely one of my favorite things and I'm so grateful. So thank you so much for having me here. I am Amy Lenius. I live in Canada. I'm very north of you. We're kind of in the same time zone, but very much north. I was actually just recently down close to your area in Boston, and I work for a company and with a company called Next Level University. They are a couple of guys, Kevin and Alan, and they have a daily podcast, and I fell in love with their holistic approach to self-improvement. I started working with them, hanging out with all their free stuff, getting to know them. And then one day they asked me to come and be their mc. They knew I was a public speaker and that I had done a lot of things like that in my past leading up to meeting them. And they said, we would love for you to come and help us run our live event and be our mc. And that's kind of how the partnership started with them. And I fell in love with. Everything that they stand for. And they had just such a beautiful community of actually a lot of women. They had really attracted a lot of heart driven women into their space. And so I was just so deeply in love with that. And then we kind of moved into, I was helping with speeches and trainings. And now I'm director of group coaching. I have my own one-on-one coaching programs through there as well, and it's just developed into this beautiful thing over the last two and a half years. And so that is where I'm at right now.

Sanika:

Awesome. I love that. And so tell me about how consistency has changed. As you've seen in different seasons of your life, right? Like you came across this daily podcast, it really spoke to you and you've kind of, you know, you leaned more and more into that community and now you're leading that community. You're a part of the overall guidance in that community, right? So how have you seen consistency not only change your world, but those that are within the community?

Amy Lenius:

Yeah, thank you. I think when we hear the word consistency, we either have a positive relationship with it or a very negative one. We have a belief that we are a consistent person or we have a belief that we're not a consistent person. I was in the, not a consistent person belief. I grew up very sick. I had a hormonal condition called endometriosis, and it was a really hard time from puberty until about my early twenties. It was a lot of doctors, surgeries, medications, all sorts of things, and I never felt one truly seen in all of that. It was very much, okay, we're just gonna move you to the next thing, move you to the next thing. No one ever talked to me about my body as a whole. It was always just like, well, here's your uterus and it's. Very broken and it's causing you a lot of pain. No one ever talked to me about like gut health, external environment versus internal environment, all of these things. And uh, I went through a lot with that, but because it was so up and down and because I could never really find relief from my pain, I think I developed a really negative relationship with the word consistency. And so I had this kind of beautiful revelation one day where I was like, okay, I'm just gonna step back. I am going to stop the medications safely, stop going to these doctors. I'm gonna just kind of branch out and see what I can find. And I ended up finding some really awesome modalities within natural wellness. I found a

Sanika:

Oh, okay.

Amy Lenius:

naturopathic doctor. He talked to me about my body as a whole. I fell in love with the word holistic because I realized, well, my internal environment shows up in my external environment, right? How we're feeling shows up externally, how our external environment is set up actually causes. Our health to be successful or not. There's so much to go into there, but I started to learn that I can sustainably build consistent practices for my healing that I could really win.'cause I started in big wins and so I became pain free from a condition I was told I could never be pain-free from. And when I look back, yeah, all natural. I'm on no medications, no more surgeries, nothing like that. I have regimens and I am very, very consistent with the things I do every day. I. Yeah, with for my hormone health, and that's kind of where I stepped into this field of like, I have a background in anatomy and physiology myself, but this is where I stepped into public speaking and running my own coaching programs. I started teaching women about their bodies and their health and their hormones, and I got to be on a lot of really incredible stages doing that kind of work. what I realized was I could go up there and I could sound really great, really smart. Saying all sorts of smart words about your body and things, people would love what I had to say and they would feel really seen, but they couldn't go home and be consistent with it themselves. And so I knew there was a missing piece, and as I started working with Kevin and Allen, I could see the whole picture better of the missing piece. It was self-belief. It was self-worth. Believe it or not, any journey you are on, whether it be monetary health, relationships, self-belief and self-worth come in as two pillars that will work against you if they're not high or. They'll work for you if you're working with them. And consistency plays into both of those as well. So now that I've learned so much more about the well-roundedness of, I mean not only neuroscience, but how people work, it's turned into this just beautiful complete practice that I have. I feel like genuinely I can help anybody with their version of success, even just with these three words, self-belief, self forth, and consistency. always meet the level of those. That we're

Sanika:

What are some of the challenges you've seen with consistency? Right. I think we all aspire to be consistent with either our gym regimen like and how we eat, where, you know, you were able to remain consistent because you saw the benefits, right? You no longer felt pain. You immediately saw that once I'm consistent in what I put in my body and the environments that I surround, that I occupy. I no longer feel pain. So you got that like, not immediate gratification, but you've got that gratification, that with this regimen, with this consistency, I can see a path of happiness. Right? So what, what do you think are like some of those key things that prevents us from seeing like us as a community as a whole for. From remaining consistent, right? Like you said, there's self-worth, there's self-belief. But if, I think when we hear consistency, right, uh, on a surface we think about, we think about regimens, like you said, like we need a consistent regimen. And I think it's often difficult. Because I also coach people, um, for sales and I coach, um, for sales and business coaching just to help entrepreneurs and career challengers through difficult times. And one thing I have found is that identifying what is that ideal regimen to be consistent with. It's difficult,

Amy Lenius:

Mm-hmm.

Sanika:

right? So, so how, how have you helped people identify what their consistent needs are to be their best self?

Amy Lenius:

Yeah, it's based on their goals. So when I came into this space, I was coaching with Alan and we were talking about my health, and we were talking about how I had gone through this whole journey and he's like, oh, so you have a lot of power inconsistency and self-belief. And I was like, I don't know. Self-belief is what we believe we're capable of achieving in the external environment. I was like, I don't know. And he's like, no, if you look back, you have consistency in you and you have self-belief in you. And he's like, how do you believe you could be consistent in fitness? And I was like, oh, I can't. I've never been able to be consistent in fitness. I go too hard and then my inflammation kicks up and I had this narrative running that my body is still this broken piece of garbage that's genuinely the narrative I had. And so we built this consistency star, this framework based on a lot of things we learned through this trial and error process of Kay Amy's fitness. And so I have been able to be consistent with a half hour of moving my body in an aligned way every day for 980 something days, having never been consistent in fitness before. we did it through five very specific points, and I'll take you through those in just a second. But what, when someone comes to me and they. Say, okay, I really wanna achieve this. It's about reverse engineering what the goal is into what can you do every day to make that happen. Consistency is built upon what's called the Compound Effect. It's a great book. Have you ever read

Sanika:

Yes.

Amy Lenius:

So

Sanika:

Yes, I did.

Amy Lenius:

itself, right? The concept itself is everything. And so if we can do something every day, it's that saying of Apple a day is better than seven on Sunday. Consistency is that we wanna leverage the compound effect through consistency. And if you can't do it every day, it's not something that you're going to be consistent at. Or if you can't do it every day, it's because you're setting yourself up for failure instead of success. We can all do something every day. It's just based on our lifestyle, our views, our beliefs. Do we believe it's possible? Do we believe it's possible for ourself? There's so much to go into there. And so when we started. We broke it down into five points. It's self-belief, humility, Adaptability and grit and we have it in a star. So it's a five pointed star of this. And self-belief is first because you're only ever going to meet yourself at the level of your accurate self-belief. So what you believe you are capable of achieving and especially when you break it down into an individual goal. So me, my have very high self-belief that I can come onto this podcast and speak and have a great conversation with you, like 10 outta 10. My self-belief in

Sanika:

Yes.

Amy Lenius:

Was like a two outta 10. So we had to start really small, really

Sanika:

Yeah. Yeah.

Amy Lenius:

we had to know my level of self-belief in this specific area. So that's always where we start. And self-belief is. Learning to keep the promises you make to yourself. You say you're gonna do something, you do it, and then you self assign, you celebrate the fact that you did this thing without overthinking, without perfectionism, without talking yourself, outta celebrating, you acknowledge that you did this thing. That's how you build self-belief.

Sanika:

No, and I, that reminds me of something that I always used to say to myself and I say to my kids all the time, do something today that your future self will be so fortunate for. Right. Something today that sneak up five years ago would be like, I'm so glad you powered through and you did that. Right? Because if we only think about the day as it is, right? It's like, live for today and be present. Yes. But if you don't. Continuously to build blocks right towards the goals that you want in life. The, the empire doesn't build itself. You have to slowly, you know, layer those blocks towards what you want to be consistent in your life every single day. And that like that reminds me of if I wanna wake up every single day and feel, well, I know I need to go to bed on time. If I wanna wake up every single day and feel good about my body, I know what I need to eat every day. Right. It's just also, I love that how you put it. I love how you put it in terms of self-belief,'cause it really does put the power for change and impact solely in your hands, right? How, what do you believe you are capable of doing today?

Amy Lenius:

That's

Sanika:

if that is a two out of 10, let's start at a two out of 10. But I think what often happens is because we are measuring it against the 10, we don't move. We don't move. We stay at the two and we're just like, two is never gonna be as great as 10, so I'm not gonna do anything. But we don't con, we don't consider what happens when two is applied. Consistency for consistently for 30 days. Then two, there comes five. And then five becomes eight, and then eight becomes 10. And by the time you look, you are sitting right at your goal and you don't even realize you got there. So I, so I love how you've positioned consistency, right? Because I think what people need to understand about consistency, it's not about just repetition, it's about accepting where you are today and consistently. Making progress to where you wanna be tomorrow. Right. I, I have the saying that I always say is like, you have to build in motion. You cannot build while you stand still and just in stagnant, right? I wanna be, I want, you know, you have a big goal. It's like, I want this new job. I wanna build this business, but I don't have enough money, so I'm gonna just sit here. Right. I don't know where to get started, so I'm just gonna sit here. It is just, I love that you, how those pillars that you've put together for consistency again, helps. People look at themselves and say, where am I today? Who do I believe I am? And what do I want for myself? And this is how I can apply some consistency. So tell me how, well, we know how consistency has changed your life, right? Can you share some stories on how, you know you've helped others, uh, acknowledge the importance of consistency in their life in with the small wins and the big wins?

Amy Lenius:

Yeah, definitely. And so I love how you built upon the self-belief there. It is. It's so valuable. I love what you do with your children. I feel the very same about mine. And I think us embodying that ourselves is always gonna be such a beautiful lesson for them. Right. And so with self-belief, sometimes it's about checking the box, like you said, and having really. A deep understanding. That's why humility is second, a deep understanding of where you're at. So let's take it through with fitness and then I'll give you an example of a woman I'm helping you, I'm helping with right now, and she's doing just incredible things. So with my fitness, when we looked at, okay, what's the 10? It was, well, a 10 would be going to a gym every day for an hour and lifting weights like hard pass. I live in a small town on a dirt road that doesn't even have a gym like, so that's. Hard pass. That's not even, it's not even a reality for me anytime soon. And so we built back from there. Well, do you think you could work out for five minutes a day? Oh yeah, absolutely. So there was the zero and then we built into, okay, well what about 10 minutes, 20, 30? And I said, I can do 30 as long as it's within the realm of I get to do what I want in that day. And so some days it looked like, yeah, waits. Some days it's a walk. Some days it's stretching because all it is is about aligning and moving my body in a way that feels good in that day. And so that took a lot of humility. That's the next step. You need to be super accurate in where you're at currently and have acceptance around that and that it's okay, like you said, to build that two into the three, into the four, into the five. And as you go, we always overestimate what we can do in a day. We constantly, as humans, underestimate what we can achieve in a year.

Sanika:

I agree a hundred percent. My, my daily to-do list is ridiculous, and I often, after I write them and read them, remind myself to give myself grace, because I, I, I always say I, I used to be a humble person. Used to always say like, I'm such a humble person, which I am, but I found that I have changed my own definition of humility. Right. And how it is shown up in the world. So I would prefer to just give myself grace, right? Just give yourself a lot of grace to where you are now and where you wanna be tomorrow, because I think something about grace just signals the empathy required for you to properly assess who you are today,

Amy Lenius:

Yeah,

Sanika:

right? Versus humility sometimes can be diminishing.

Amy Lenius:

depending on

Sanika:

Your, of your exactly. Humility in its in its standalone could be, oh, I need to be humble. I need to be graceful. I need to like you understand what I, I need to kind of diminish in order to amplify. So humility and me, and humility has had, you know, I'm a wordsmith me and humility is having some is having some trouble these days. But grace, having some grace for yourself and where you are today. I think will make you, will allow people to properly assess where they are today. Right. Because I think when you look at it in bare face, you're just like, yeah, I can't be consistent at work because I. Of my rise. I can't be consistent in fitness because of the gym. Like, you know what I mean? The, we have all of these reasons. I can't be consistent in building the business because of funding. I can't, like we can, there are so many reasons we cannot, right? But if we look at things from the standpoint of giving yourself grace, you start to see, oh, I can't build a business because I don't have full funding right now. But what I can do is create the logo. What I can do is start to outline the operational man model, right? What I can do is, you know, I can't go to the gym, but what I can do is take that 30 minute walk'cause grace allows you to see yourself with so much beauty. And towards consistency. I just often, our minds are just wired towards negative language, limited, limited frameworks, and using words like grace when aligned with consistency, I think softens it a bit, right? Because I think we, in our world. When you hear consistency, it's like put out content every single day. Be at work, be the first one in the first one out. Build that business, 365 days, 2 75, you sleep when you're dead. Like those are the type of con like those, those are the type of concepts we think of when we hear consistency. And I think part of relearning and redefining it for ourselves is understanding that consistency can be graceful.

Amy Lenius:

Ah. Completely. Completely. That's why number four is adaptability. Another word for that is grace. It's understanding your current state and what do you need to do to adapt your current state to your goal. I. And so humility, it's tough when we have lower self-worth and we have some self-worth stuff. Humility gets taken on. Kind of like you said when you were struggling with that word. Humility just needs to be developed into just an accurate sense of self. And then the top of the star is the sustainability. If it is not sustainable, you will not be able to do it every day, so you need to make it into a block of time that is sustainable without guilt, without judgment, without shame. If you can't do something for an hour every day, I am a homeschooling country, living mom who is also in this business, like I have to be sustainable and adaptable all the time. You're a mother. You know how reactive life can be when you have children and things, and so sustainability and adaptive. Ability are right side by side. And another word for adaptability, and this is Grace, is you know what? Today was a shit show of a day. I still need to do my workout, and the kids are this, and I am this, and this was this. It's eight o'clock at night, but I said I would do this thing. And so you know what? The kids are in bed. I'm actually just gonna lie down and stretch for a half hour. I'm gonna honor my body that way for half an hour to come down because I'm not gonna pick up the weights or go for a hike at night or things. That's the beauty of the adaptability piece and the grace piece you're talking about. It's giving that sense of acceptance of your lifestyle, of where you're at in that day. Even as women with our cycles and things, we do not have the same energetic level every day. We cannot push. week four, like we do in week two, two and a half, it's not the same. It's grace and understanding there is so important, and that's why that adaptability piece is key. I sh I put that in there myself. I was like, we need to be able to adapt. I, yeah.

Sanika:

Yes, absolutely. And you know, that reminded me of Atomic Habits, like you talked about, the compound effect. I love Atomic Habits as well.

Amy Lenius:

Oh.

Sanika:

And yes, I, that's a book I love.

Amy Lenius:

right here with my books and atomic habits and the consistency or the compound effector on them. But I put the wallpaper up and now my

Sanika:

Yes. Yes, because I think it's so important, right? And for those who haven't read Atomic Habits, it really shows you how to make essentially 1%. Progress in every single day by stacking your habits to towards your ultimate goal. And that reminded me of, like you said, life happens. There are days that you plan out all the things and you know, 5% of the things get done and the kids get sick and you gotta pick them up from school. And it's like a whole thing, right? And it reminds me of when I created this. This measure for myself, right? Because I again, could not be consistent with working out to save my life after baby number two career. I was just like, it is gonna be what it's gonna be. I started this thing called my bare minimum.

Amy Lenius:

Oh love.

Sanika:

So. So every single day I am, I used to be an OCD clean freak, right? So the things that I truly look forward to is like take every single night is taking a shower, a long hot shower, and like getting myself ready to bed. You think I'm going somewhere the way I take my night routine? Very serious, right? And during this time I read Atomic Habits and what came to mind was Sonika, you need to create a bare minimum. So that if I don't get to the gym, if I don't get to walk the dog, if I don't get a long walk before I get in that shower, I have to do four exercises, four sets

Amy Lenius:

Mm. I.

Sanika:

in, one. It became my bare minimum, and that's how I kept fitness and consistency in my life because I knew myself. You know, as a day dwindled down, you finally put the kids to bed. Everyone ate dinner. I am. Ooh, I'm tingling. Looking forward to that shower to just like wind down. And then I'd go, you gotta earn it. You got to do your bare minimum. And it's now, now it's like second nature. If I don't go to the gym, if I don't walk, I'm on the floor in my bedroom with the mat doing my bare minimum because it's something like Atomic Habits. It was something that I stacked with a habit that I enjoyed, with something that I knew I needed to do. Right, and it, it's, I love how we are outlining how we've come to define consistency because consistency is just that small, sustainable actions that we can take forward and continue to build upon and compound upon.

Amy Lenius:

yes. So much. Yes. I love the habit stacking. I love what you're doing and everything. I can see when you, you, yourself, are putting these regimens into your life, you're honoring yourself so deeply. So like these little things that you create for yourself, this is why you have high self-belief and self-worth, I can tell, but it's because you've built those practices and you're keeping the promises you make to yourself and you're investing in yourself these ways. All of these things build self-worth and self. Belief. So self-belief being that external game, self-worth is the internal game, and a big part of that is doing everything you just said. And so that's really beautiful. And again, that adaptation and grace and understanding, here's my bare minimum, because genuinely it is sometimes just about checking the box, not how it looks, not how well you did, not the outcome of it. It's about checking the box for the sake of that internal game for the sake of becoming someone who says. I am consistent. I am adaptable. I have self-belief, I have self-worth. I'm gonna invest in myself this way, even if it's messy. And those kind of principles has really helped me let go of that perfectionism mindset. If I can't do it perfect, I don't need to, I don't wanna do it at all. And I used to live in that space, and so that has also taught me to have messy action. Mm-hmm.

Sanika:

Yeah, anything less than a hundred percent. But it also reminds me that keeping promises I make for myself is of the utmost importance, right? I think once you're a mom and you are just a woman, like you don't even have to be a mom, but a woman in, in this world, keeping promises to yourself becomes further and further lower of the priority list. Because we're genuinely always taking care of someone else. Even if you have children or your partner or whatever, you're genuinely always taking care of someone else. And then the promises you make for yourself become not even a, a question, a thought in your mind. And I learned that in order for me to show up for anyone, I needed to show up for myself first. Like.

Amy Lenius:

That's right.

Sanika:

First and foremost.

Amy Lenius:

Mm-hmm.

Sanika:

so like I started to think, how, what does that look like? What do I, what does that feel like? And I think when we think about consistency, I think that's a good question the audience and everyone can ask theirselves is how do I consistently wanna show up for myself every single day so that I feel like I'm giving Sonika the love that Sonika gives out.

Amy Lenius:

Yes, yes. And so many of us hear that and we think, oh, taking care of myself is selfish. I don't have to do that. I can keep giving at the extent that I'm giving. And you know what? I think women do great things, self-sacrificing and all of this stuff. But I'm telling you, as someone who has flipped that script and who honors myself first, so that I can give. My maximum effort so that I can give what is best of me, not just what is left of me constantly. It has, it's, it's better over here. Genuinely. The

Sanika:

Yeah,

Amy Lenius:

the hero complex, the Marty,

Sanika:

everyone, everyone got so much more from that one, and I think

Amy Lenius:

yes.

Sanika:

the problem is conditioning, right? Prob the problem is conditioning a lot of times in their, in either your community, your family, or your upbringing. The, the messages were. Consistently show up for other people, consistently be of service to other people, which in so many ways is wonderful, but how can you do that if you don't consistently show up for yourself? I.

Amy Lenius:

Yeah, and just like you said, the narrative of women. Women, typically, we have the underlying narrative and so does society, that our worth comes from what and who we are to other people. Are we a good daughter? Are we a good spouse? Are we a good mother though? Like that's where our worth. I. Societally comes from. And so we automatically have that ingrained that we need to sacrifice ourself for others to even feel worthy and lovable. so there's a whole narrative there that

Sanika:

Which is so weird and at a consistent level that we don't even know is sustainable,

Amy Lenius:

Oh yeah.

Sanika:

right? So you, you, and then you come across these varying people that's like, I gave my all to that relationship. I gave my all to that job, I gave my all to this business. And it's just like, first of all, what have you consistently giving your all of you two? Can, can we, can we assess what that is? Right. Because I just, it, it, it, it hurts me deeply when I feel like there are people pouring and giving their valued asset, which is their energy. I just feel like human beings are designed to be good, right? And have great energy and. You have this asset that is so, it's not, it's not tangible. There is no value. Dollar amount you can put towards it because it's so phenomenal and you put it towards things that don't serve you in a positive way, or you don't even acknowledge that it exists and it diminishes and dies within you. There are people that live and die every day and never live a day.

Amy Lenius:

Yeah.

Sanika:

All because no one have taught them, or even shown them or gave them the ability to say, if you consistently look in the mirror at yourself every day for one minute, you'll start to see how great you are. Or if you consistently go outside every single day and walk in the sun, it will help how you feel emotionally. You know what I mean? I think when we hear consistency, I want everyone to understand it is a commitment you make to yourself every single day to towards something you desire,

Amy Lenius:

100%. 100%. learning to honor that within yourself every day is going to build you to a place where you are able to not only attract, but sustain healthy relationships. Healthy jobs, all of those things, you're gonna be more equipped to deal with. What comes with that, if you are more fulfilled, is, is everything. And it's a huge part of that is how you are, what your quality of life is and what that means to you. And I think consistency is individual game. It really is because I can never compare my, let's keep using fitness, my fitness journey to a woman who's in her young twenties who lives in an apartment building. She's got a gym right in the basement of that building and she can go and spend three hours there every morning.'cause she doesn't have children, she doesn't have all of these things. And if I look at that and I'm like, oh, I suck. I suck

Sanika:

Yeah,

Amy Lenius:

do that. It's like you are comparing apples to frigging peanuts. You are not comparing apples to apples. Well, what are we doing? So, a,

Sanika:

what they say? Comparison Is this the

Amy Lenius:

it can

Sanika:

thief?

Amy Lenius:

thief, thief of all joy. It can also be used for inspiration. So if I'm looking at this young 20-year-old woman and I'm trying to compare and thinking I suck. Well, that's not, that's not healthy. That's gonna hit me in my self worth every day. But if I can find a woman, let's say on Instagram, we all love to, you know, compare to our other people online. So it's ingrained within us to do so. And I find someone who's also almost in her forties, maybe she loves to live in the country and maybe she homeschools her kids like I do, but she has a fitness regime that I could look up to and be inspired by seeing that, hey, she has done this thing. Maybe I can have a piece of that and do that too. you can compare it for inspiration as long as it's apples to apples, or you can compare it to a detriment. And so if that is you, if you're comparing at a detriment, try and find someone who is in a more similar lifestyle than you and see if you can get inspired instead.

Sanika:

That is so good. I think that's a great point, right? Because I think you're right. We do kind of see people out in the world on the Internets and all of these, even people in our community, and we're like, oh, I wish I could have that or do this like that person or whatever it is, and. Sometimes, uh, it just leans into comparison where it should just be inspiration, right? But then also be honest with yourself and be graceful about it. That is this a, a true comparison? Like this person could have a more wealthier background. They're 20 years younger, 20 years older. Like let's be honest about who you are. Right? And that's where I think Grace, alongside with consistency, will put you in a place where you're happy and you're fulfilled so that you are consistently showing up as yourself. Because I do see that, I do see where people are like, oh, I see that you do this and I wanna do this. Thing. And I'm just like, I love that you wanna do this thing, let's do this thing together, but let's compare the structure and the foundation, right? Because in order for you to get to A to B, you need a vehicle of some sort. And if somebody is driving a Ferrari and we on a two, two wheel bicycle, we gonna get there, but we're not gonna get there as fast,

Amy Lenius:

Yeah,

Sanika:

you know? And that's the part that I think,

Amy Lenius:

Sorry, go ahead.

Sanika:

No, no, I was gonna say, that's the part that I want people to understand. The knowing the gold, knowing the target, you don't have to have a clear vision. Right? And it, I could go into the whole tangent about Gen Z, about them not wanting to move because they wanna find purpose first. Right? Purpose is found in motion, but. I think, uh, helping people see and understand that if you come across something that inspires you, that moves, you pull closer to it, but not for comparison. Not to, to, to, uh, mimic it, not to become that thing, but to evaluate it.

Amy Lenius:

That,

Sanika:

But to evaluate it

Amy Lenius:

that Because sometimes, Because sometimes we see someone with this result. And we think, oh, I want that, but we're not looking at what it took. But also if it's aligned with who we are and the things we value, typically we see an end result and we're not looking at the journey, and we're not looking at who we are. I can't tell you how many people we have worked with where they want this end result, but it does not align with their core values at all. Someone wanted to be a CEO, build this whole business entrepreneur, and we're like, okay, well how do you feel about time freedom? Oh, it's everything. Like, do you wanna be there for your kids as they grow up? Oh yes, 100%. I wanna be there to pick my kids up off the, then this is not the path for you. You are going to hate yourself by the end. And so how can we build something that gives you these similar things but aligns with your values? Knowing your core values is everything. My top three core values are freedom, love, and growth. You can see freedom in every like little bit of thing we do. I work from home. I homeschool my kids. We have chickens that give us our own eggs. Like they're just little things that show up in that. And there are so many choices I could have made going into the businesses and things I wanna do that would've been so misaligned with that, that I would've been miserable throughout and at the end. And so knowing that about myself and knowing that my family life is still the most priority because I love, love and the way my household runs. If my house isn't in a good energy, I can't put my best work out, I will always prioritize that energy. So, right. So knowing that about my myself means I have to make certain choices right now while my kids are small, I can have plans for when they're bigger and more self-sufficient, but I can't live those plans right now because this is more important. And so knowing

Sanika:

Yes, in this season of your life,

Amy Lenius:

Yes.

Sanika:

in this season of your life, like, and I think you hit it right on the head by saying, evaluate the things you desire because just because it looks. Like a beautiful, consistent life that I would want bring it in a little bit closer to truly evaluate it. Because will you be able to do and live within those core values if you aspire to do that thing? If

Amy Lenius:

Right.

Sanika:

you aspire to consistently to be a CEO? Right. And it's interesting'cause I talk to people all the time. They're like, oh, I wanna start this and I wanna start that. And I'm like, tell me how you'd manage it. Give me an ideal day.

Amy Lenius:

Yes.

Sanika:

You know what I mean? So it's good that you're able to say, I, I, I love freedom. I love, love. Same. I'm always like, I, I am nothing without my family. If my husband and my girls are not smiling from ear to ear, I'm not. Right. Like we just, we are just that kind of household where we just, we hang out, we chill, we chat, Hey, I'm chilling. Chat. It's all we do. And if that is not well, I am not well.

Amy Lenius:

That's right.

Sanika:

So it's knowing these key pieces of your life that needs to be consistently, uh, in a good position for you to be your best self because no, I don't think everyone does that in valuation. What do I need to be? Well, every day consistently, not just for myself, but for my environment,

Amy Lenius:

Mm-hmm. That's

Sanika:

right? Because your environment plays a big component in your overall wellness, and are you the kind of person that can thrive in chaos? Let's just say what are your goals? Is I do. I now live in the suburbs. I wanna be one of those people that live in a building and have a gym downstairs. That's what I want.'cause I think that is who, but is that the lifestyle that's going to make you happy

Amy Lenius:

Mm-hmm. That's right. Yeah. are you gonna be fulfilled and is it gonna be the quality of life that you want? And all of these things, because you will reach the ceiling of your goals if you don't have all of those things along the way. And if you're not cultivating those things along the way and adapting and having grace and like all of these things along the way, those all build into your consistency. People hear consistencies like, oh, I just have to do this every day. There is so many layers underneath that for you to even make that possible, and that is okay. It is okay if you need to do this deep dive into this thing to be consistent. In fact, I think you should really, because at the end of the day, the things you wanna be consistent in. the things that matter to you the most? I was building this whole thing into entrepreneurialship. I had my own women's health coaching program, public speaking, all of these things. I had the Peaceful Period project, it was called, and we met for nine weeks. And I taught women about their bodies, their hormones, their cycles, everything I could pour into them to empower them with the information they need to go and be the women that they can be. And I, I loved it. I did, I loved it so much, but a part of me wasn't. Fully into the entrepreneurialship part of it because of the lifestyle that I have and want. And so when I found Kevin and Allen in Next Level University and I got to partner with them and be an intrapreneur, oh, found my spot, found my sweet spot, my time freedom, my things, but yet I have something to be a part of instead of the director of. I love that. I, like I always use this analogy with Alan. He's the CEO and he coaches me and all of these things. I'm like, I feel like I'm the lightsaber and I have so much potential and you, I just need someone to wield me in the right direction. And I just thrive in that. I'm like, so you be the Jedi and you just wield the lightsaber. Let's go, let's do great things. But

Sanika:

I love that analogy. That is a great analogy. And I also just, I have to highlight the beauty in that, the power in that, right? Because I think often. The world Society makes you feel like the only best position is the CEO,

Amy Lenius:

That's right.

Sanika:

the O, the, the goal, the only good goal to have is the CEO, but that's not the goal for everyone.

Amy Lenius:

No. And

Sanika:

the, the SVP is a great.

Amy Lenius:

for that. So many of us do not have the

Sanika:

The SU is a great place to be. The director is a great place to be. The individual contributor is a good place to be. The question is, what if I always say, if you put money aside, what is your ideal lifestyle? I. Put money aside. And what is your ideal lifestyle? Do you wanna be learning every single day? Do you wanna be inspiring someone every single day? Do you wanna be speaking to the masses every single day or not? Or would you rather just be drawing? Would you rather just be building like it? It's in order to find what that consistent sense of fulfillment and happiness is, you have to be real with yourself and do that on it.

Amy Lenius:

Yes.

Sanika:

You have to see the things that aspire you out in the world that you wanna compare yourself to, and then bring them in a little bit closer, evaluate them, and then do a proper audit. I always say that like I, I'm not a strategist'cause they train me to be. It's'cause that's just how my brain works. I, I, that's just how my mind works. I'm just like, I can take all of these things and then make it into something that makes sense. You know what I mean? And when we look at our lives, we have to be able to do that. I always, like, I have a lot of close friends that they're like, SNE, you're gonna be great. I, I just wanna be a part of your, your business. And I'm just like, but what do you wanna do?

Amy Lenius:

Yeah.

Sanika:

I was like, I never wanted to give anyone an assignment or a role that doesn't align with who you wanna be and what you wanna do. And until you identify that, it's separate from the opportunity, right? Because sometimes I think we just go out and we see these opportunities and we see these spaces and we're like, oh, do that. I wanna do that. I wanna try that. I wanna be that person. I'm gonna be that person, which is lovely. A hundred percent do that. But before you jump. Evaluate, bring it in a little closer. Assess this person that's doing that thing has this level of consistency doing X, can I consistently do X? Do I consistently wanna do Y or do I just love the way Z looks?

Amy Lenius:

That's right.

Sanika:

Do I do, I just love the way Z looks and, and I think, I love how we have defined consistency around not just doing a thing, but knowing why you're doing it and where you're going.

Amy Lenius:

Yeah. purpose behind the thing you're trying to be consistent in really matters. It's gonna be your driving force. So number five on the star is grit, because sometimes we just have to get it done. You doing it right before you do all of your things that you love. That takes a level of grit. It's the end of the day. You just wanna have your shower and do your beautiful things that you do. But you said you were gonna do this thing and you have to adapt to the moment. But the reason you get it done is there's a certain level of grit. Sometimes we just have to have this moment of, you know what? I'm feeling this, I'm feeling this. It's like, you know what f my feelings for just a moment. What are the facts? I said I was gonna do this thing. What's the bare minimum that I can do to check the box and just get it done? That takes a certain level of grit, and so that's what it is. Self-belief, humility, sustainability, adaptability, and grace and grit. Some days you just gotta get it done and that's gonna help you build consistency.

Sanika:

Yes. I was gonna say the five pillars of consistency.

Amy Lenius:

Mm-hmm.

Sanika:

That, that, that is awesome. Be especially grit, right? I think I. Depending on your experience, grit can mean so many different things, and I think if going back to like being graceful with yourself in all things, grit is just getting it done. Sometimes I like to, I always say sometimes you need to separate yourself from the task. It is not, it doesn't have to be you.

Amy Lenius:

Yes,

Sanika:

You know what I mean? It's. It's just I'm doing a thing because we get so caught up in my emotions, and like you said, some days I'm just super tired. I'm just like, I had a day with the girls. I had a day at work. I just really wanna get in the shower and get in the bed, but I'm just like, Ika had a bad day. But Ika also promised to get this done.

Amy Lenius:

that's right.

Sanika:

So how am I gonna get this done and I just block it all out and get it done right? So it's just activating that sense of grit that you have for yourself and say, the why.

Amy Lenius:

Mm-hmm.

Sanika:

am I even doing this separate? The emotion, one plus one equals two, I, I set a goal for this reason, I'm gonna do it and I'm gonna get it done.

Amy Lenius:

Mm-hmm. It doesn't have to look perfect today. It just has to get done. days you're going to be, you're gonna have the capacity to do this thing really well, and some days you're not. And having acceptance around that and then learning to grid it out and get it done anyways is going to serve you so much deeper than anything else. Long term, genuinely. And so where are you? Because when we look at five things, it can be overwhelming, especially if we're not used to being consistent. So I've just given you five things to look at. If you can pick one on that star or of those pillars that you know is the lowest for you. So mine was grit. I grew up very sick. So it was very hard for me to put myself in uncomfortable positions because I had finally become not uncomfortable physically, and that it, it was really hard for me to push myself because I had so much scarcity around what that would look like for me. And so evaluating even you can do from one to five or zero to five on each one of those things. How much belief do you have in yourself? How accurately can you assess where you're at? How sustainable can you make something? It takes humility to build sustainability. Okay? Meeting yourself where you're at. If it's only five minutes a day, then that's where you start. Adaptability is grace. Are you? An overthinker and a perfectionist, you're gonna struggle to give yourself that grace if that's the lowest score for you. Start practicing self-acceptance and grace. Or maybe you're like me and grit is the thing that you need to focus on the most. Don't look at the whole star all at once. Pick one. Where are you in the evaluation of that? Pick one, and then how can you build consistency in that one thing and then expand out from there.

Sanika:

I love that. Thank you so much. That was to me, again, so graceful. As I've said that since I've met you, I'm just like, I love the kindness in your guidance and, and, and the kindness in how you usher people through the world.

Amy Lenius:

Thank

Sanika:

It, it just ate around you. This level of you can do it, you have all the things and it doesn't have to be rough.

Amy Lenius:

Yeah.

Sanika:

know, I, I love that. I love that. Thank you so much for sharing the star of consistency, right? And how we have come to define consistency and we can redefine consistency. And before I let you go, ab, you know, I'm a music girl, you know that the rhythms. That keeps us in our world is important. So tell me, what are you vibing on this week, Amy? I know you just traveled. You came to the America, you came to the States, went back to Canada, came back. Tell me, what were you jabbing on?

Amy Lenius:

Oh my goodness. Music actually is a huge part of my life. I am obsessed with everything from like the fifties to the early two thousands. After that, it gets a little, I'm like, I don't know, but, uh, but I like nineties alternative, genuinely is my favorite. I can always go, like, everyone's like, oh, what brings you into a state of like, peace and gets you ready for your coaching and all these things. I'm like, honestly, it's like rock. And sometimes metal, and it's just this weird thing I have in me that I love. Like I love complicated music. It's one of the very few things that quiets my brain. And so it needs to have a lot of complexity to it. Instruments and all of these things for me to be like, ah, yes,

Sanika:

Nice. So what's your go-to song? I love how you consider rock complex music because of all the different ments. I love that. Ooh. So tell me, tell me, tell me what's your favorite song If you're like, I need to zone in right now and focus on the proposal, I need to focus on this meeting. What are you putting on? What, what Alexa play, what?

Amy Lenius:

Oh my goodness. One song I could never,

Sanika:

One song I know.

Amy Lenius:

I could never, it is like if I have my go-to, it is my alternative rock playlist. And there are a few on there. There's like a Lincoln Park song, a POD song for sure. A three Days Grace song in there. So like those three bands are big for me. Definitely I don't, I couldn't choose and then I have to go back and it's like Led Zeppelin,

Sanika:

I.

Amy Lenius:

it. I.

Sanika:

See, I talk, I always say like, choosing your favorite song sometimes do feel like choosing a favorite child. It's so hard.

Amy Lenius:

It's impossible. It is. It does. Like, if I need like a, a gist, I have this song. It's, uh, Frank Sinatra Summer Wind. It's beautiful. It feels so flowy. It's nice and casual, like that's like one of my favorites. But then sometimes, you know, it depends on the mood. Depends on the mood.

Sanika:

Depends on the movie.

Amy Lenius:

You never

Sanika:

Listen, it depends. You could never choose Ooh. Especially a nice Frank Sinatra song. Have you ever like looked up his performances on YouTube

Amy Lenius:

Right. Suave

Sanika:

Like,

Amy Lenius:

man.

Sanika:

so Swamp? I'm like, there are few humans that operate like silk. You know, operate like silk. I feel like Luther VROs operate like silk,

Amy Lenius:

just that smoothness.

Sanika:

just smooth. Frank Sinatra operate like silk.

Amy Lenius:

Him and

Sanika:

Those that's.

Amy Lenius:

Ooh, hang with those guys all day.

Sanika:

Very, very high quality, very movement, you know. I love it. Amy, thank you so much for being on the podcast. Thank you so much for walking us through how you've defined consistency, how you help so many people in your community. Define and outline what consistency means per season of their life. And this has been phenomenal

Amy Lenius:

Oh,

Sanika:

much, and this is.

Amy Lenius:

said, I don't take this lightly that you have me in this space, so, so much gratitude. Thank you. This was a beautiful conversation. You're an incredible host. Keep doing what you're doing in the world. I love it.

Sanika:

Thank you so much and this is, how do you divide consistency.