RE-Release: Episode 5: Vaxxed and 'Red'y to Rocks!

The cast talk about live music's return to the iconic Red Rocks Amphitheatre, being vaccinated and the impact of vaccinations on the events world, along with much, much more. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:26

Hi everyone, thank you for joining us today here at Call Time for Events. I'm Colin.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

I'm Heather. I'm Kristen.

SPEAKER_05 0:33

I'm Jeff. And Call Time for Events is proud to be sponsored in part by Mike's Stadium Sports Cards, Colorado's best card shop. For all of your collecting needs from sports cards to Pokeman and beyond, head to Mike's, located on the northeast corner of Parker and Quincy in Aurora, Colorado. Also available on most social media platforms at Mike's Stadium. Damn it, Stadium Sports Cards. Mike is also a member of the event workers community, and we graciously thank him for his support.

SPEAKER_02 1:01

Yay, Mike, and all his cards.

SPEAKER_05 1:03

Yay, Mike.

SPEAKER_02 1:04

Woo!

SPEAKER_00 1:05

Woo! Indeed. So well, here we are with episode five. Uh we made it to five.

SPEAKER_02 1:12

We made it to five. I think that puts us in like a really awesome group. Not very many people make it to five. We are special. Five is my favorite number, so I'm feeling good about this episode.

SPEAKER_00 1:26

We'll make sure we note every fifth episode, uh, especially for Heather.

SPEAKER_01 1:31

Yes, it'll be Heather's episodes.

SPEAKER_02 1:33

Awesome. Well, we're excited today to get started. Um, and as we want to do with all episodes, kind of hit on the event news from around the country. Um, I will start. I will tell you that April 2nd, um, this last month, we're in April, April 2nd, um, Broadway started opening up venues kind of in a rolling open. Um, Governor Cuomo allowed something called a flex venue to open. And that was something that happened inside of New York's own community. So all the way from New York to, and we've been seeing rolling events. We have here a friend of our podcast um just worked in an event in Idaho, um, Colorado, where we're located. Uh Heather's or Heather and Colin are going to talk about Red Rocks opening. And in California, they are very slowly, although more intimate, allowing um smaller events to happen. So it's happening. We are getting back up on our feet. This is what we've been wanting.

SPEAKER_00 2:35

And they they just had the UFC fight last night to a completely sold-out, non-mask mandated arena. And it was a star-studded affair with uh like Tom Brady and and everybody uh else that uh surrounds the the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

SPEAKER_02 2:52

Oh. Nice, yeah. I know UFC was one of the first events to come back, period. Like they they kind of never shut down because they were one of the first to go virtual, right? Like start streaming.

SPEAKER_00 3:04

They were in Dubai, yeah, or in uh yeah, in Dubai or United Arab Arabic or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 3:08

Fight island.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

Fight island, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:10

Yeah, yeah. That was that was an interesting, that's a whole nother that's a whole other issue. But um, so we're excited, and um tours and concert tours are being announced, like within the foreseeable future, like you can buy tickets to these things now, so it's really exciting.

SPEAKER_01 3:26

And those tickets are being sold out. I know some people who have been on waiting lists for the various music festivals that are been, you know, that have been announced recently, and they were on a waiting list for three hours, four hours, and sold out.

SPEAKER_02 3:42

Sold out. So no, it's exciting. I'm I'm excited that it's happening. I know that outdoor venues are kind of leading the way, so let's keep our fingers crossed. We're gonna see a lot more of this. I'm really excited.

SPEAKER_00 3:53

Yeah, it's exciting. I mean, even some of the smaller clubs and whatnot are actually getting going. I mean, you're seeing announcements for things like even as small and intimate as the comedy works. And if you've ever been inside of the comedy works, it's it's definitely a very small, tight quarters. But seeing things like that and uh the the Grizzly Rose is having concerts every weekend now and our soon.

SPEAKER_02 4:17

That's really great because for so long we'd drive down I-25 and see their marquee and it was just empty and closed, and they didn't have so I'm really excited to see that marquee back up and running.

SPEAKER_00 4:27

Yeah, and I what I like to see is that it's it's nice to see that it's coming back uh uh across many different platforms. Um, I think the last kind of genres you're gonna see come back with full capacity are your uh ones like Heather said before, with you know, your EDM type shows where everybody's dancing together or your your your different types of rock and roll shows, especially your punk rock and your metal and things like that. And uh they're starting to slowly come back and have announcements of dates, but um it'll be it's nice to see and it'll happen soon. It's just a matter of when.

SPEAKER_01 5:01

So yeah, it depends on the part of the country that the music festivals are being uh scheduled for, like the venues that these events will be occurring in, because I do know that there was a bit of some confusion um with one specific music festival that was announced and typically occurs in Vegas. It was announced they started prepping all of the fans to like get ready, get their lodging taken care of, and then they had to kind of rein the you know, reins back in and they had to postpone it again until October because they got new restrictions from Vegas and it was a whole mess. So it's it's definitely been a little bit of a weird process for everyone. It's like, how far do we go forward? How do we have to go back? It's everyone's trying to just figure it out still.

SPEAKER_02 5:50

Yeah, it's it's frustrating, but we're getting there. And that this is the best news we've had. We've we've said from the beginning here in call time, we were the first out and we're gonna be the last back in. And here we are, we're getting there, we're coming back in. So that's what we have been hoping for, and it is happening.

SPEAKER_00 6:09

Yeah, and even even even though some states are having an an uptick in numbers, uh, the trend keeps moving forward thanks to mainly vaccinations, um, from what I can see. So uh hopefully that just keeps that that's a positive trend that keeps going, regardless of any kind of hiccups and upticks and and positive numbers and whatnot. Hopefully, we'll see full venues by the end of 2021 and into 2022.

SPEAKER_02 6:34

That'd be awesome. Awesome. Yeah, we need to get everybody vaccinated so we can get back to this. It'd be great.

SPEAKER_05 6:41

I'm done. Yeah, we're all vaccinated.

SPEAKER_02 6:43

All of us Johnson and Johnson, one and done. No blood clots for me. None so far. None so far. That's true. None so far, that's true. Um, I did work a COVID event, um, a vaccine event. Um, and that was really interesting because as you know, since February, I believe it was February 2nd, all of the NFL stadiums became vaccination sites. Um, all of the Broadway theaters are vaccination sites. And so what I love is I I love seeing the event industry get behind this push to vaccinate everybody, and we're making an event out of it. I myself got vaccinated at the Budweiser Event Center in Loveland, Colorado. So that was really cool. And then I worked an event and it was really interesting. People are just, I mean, we had 500 vaccines and 499 appointments that day that I worked, and not a single person um had hesitancy. Everybody's like, please just shoot me in the arm with that vaccine so we can get back to it. That was the I can tell you, having worked an event where we vaccinated people, that was the feel, and that was what I was really excited about because we need a whole lot more of that and a whole lot less I refuse.

SPEAKER_00 7:55

I'm hearing a lot less of the refuse, but you know, as the as this continues, I'm sure we'll still hear some of the I refuse or I'm I'm gonna be a part of the control group or whatever, and that's fine, like you know, live your life the way you want to, but you know, there just might be some consequences to that, that whatever people are gonna have to live that people are gonna have to live with. And if they're willing to not be vaccinated, then they'll be willing to live with those consequences, just like those of us who did get vaccinated, we'll live with whatever consequences come with that.

SPEAKER_01 8:23

So how do you guys feel about go ahead? I'm sorry, Heather. Oh no, you're fine. I was just gonna say, um, and I think the level of hesitancy per person just really depends on like the makeup of your life and um and what you personally participate in. I know a lot of business people are very excited to also be getting their vaccine because as part of their normal day-to-day work interactions typically require them uh to be traveling, to be places, to be networking, and you want to feel comfortable doing that. And so I personally know a lot of business people who are jump chomping up the bit to get their vaccines simply because they want to get back to business. I mean, we want to get back to events, and a lot of people do think of events as more of like a recreational, like, you know, uh spare time type of thing, but you got to think about the business side of it as well. And a lot of people forget that conventions and um conferences are part of events as well, and those are slowly trickling back in as well. And so I know a lot of people in the uh more professional side of our lives, you know, are very excited for that.

SPEAKER_00 9:31

As well as hear Comic-Con come back.

SPEAKER_02 9:34

Really big event, yeah. Really big events that canceled, like Comic-Con. And then there's I mean, there's all kinds of events and all kinds of industries that canceled last year are back on the calendar.

SPEAKER_01 9:44

And I think that's exciting news for the two million square feet of all the convention centers, you know, that are have been sitting empty for I think people forget how massive convention centers are huge, and built on the industry of people coming to see them.

SPEAKER_02 10:02

It's it's incredible. What do you guys think? Speaking of all the traveling and the conventions and all that, what do you think of like talk of requiring a vaccine to get into events?

SPEAKER_01 10:13

I think that's fine.

SPEAKER_02 10:14

Ticketmaster floated it. Um, now that's now there's like a travel passport kind of situation. What do you guys think of that?

SPEAKER_05 10:22

I think that's fair once we know that the vaccine is available to everyone in every place, and that it's not there's no there's no issues as long as they're not setting this mandate, and then you know there's any kind of supply problems or people who just aren't able to get them yet based on age. Um, I know because I know in some places still, if you're not over 30, you're not getting a vaccine yet. So that makes that tough because they they make that mandate. There's a large population still that's like, okay, we're still waiting.

SPEAKER_02 10:54

Oh, that's very uh Colin, what do you think? I can see both sides.

SPEAKER_00 10:57

Yeah, I can see both sides as well. And I and I agree with you, Jeff, that I think we need to just have more time to get more people vaccinated before they can start to mandate a vaccination passport, if you will. And you already start to see a lot of states uh have uh executive orders on the books that have said that they're gonna ban uh vaccination passports and whatnot. And you know, I I just think there needs to be more education on it for people to make an informed decision on that. And if that's if that's the case, if they say you gotta have a vaccine, you have to prove that you've been vaccinated to come in, it's just like any other of the other sets of rules that you'd have to have to either purchase tickets or enter the the venue or the facility or board an airplane or whatever it is. So um, you know, I I think it's gonna take some time. I mean, shoot, I remember 20 years ago, right after uh the unfortunate events of 9-11 happened and and a lot of changes started to happen at venues immediately with restrictions on bag sizes and and more restrictions on things like that. And people have adjusted to that to now we're at a point where pretty much there's no bags at any venues, at least not here in Colorado and um a lot of other places are are going to a very, very small or non no no bag policy at all. I mean, Ball Arena, for instance, has no bags whatsoever. Uh, I just saw Staples Center is also no bags whatsoever. Um, so uh those types of places, I mean, it's gonna become the norm, and a vaccination passport or something to there they're in is gonna be similar as well. So it's it's just gonna be an adjustment period one way or the other. You're gonna have your naysayers and you're gonna have people that are in support of it or just aloof to it, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

Well, and I think that it's not going to like a requirement like that's not going to affect what we do because it'll just be a rule we enforce, right? If that was given to us and we said I'm sorry, that is the rule, and we enforce that rule, that's fine. But I gotta tell you, I personally feel I'd have a better time knowing that everybody did something, like tried to stop something bad from happening, like a virus getting in. I I know I would just mentally be in a better place. It's not gonna prevent me from going out there. I'm vaccinated, I've done my thing. Um and it's going to be just another rule that we have to enforce. And maybe it'll fall to the artists instead of the venue, you know, like the artist says, I want everybody vaccinated to come to my show. I mean, we all we've all worked base nectar. We know it has list of can't come in, it's insane, you know, and that'll just be one more thing. Prohibited items list is just out of this world.

SPEAKER_00 13:34

Your phone, your keys, and your money.

SPEAKER_02 13:36

Um, that's right.

SPEAKER_00 13:38

There is there is some venues that are doing the health assessments that you have to attest to. There's an there's uh like at Ball Arena, there's an uh uh a place to present your attestation of you not having any of the COVID symptoms or whatever, and it's it's like a 10 question questionnaire. And it was the same thing at at um at a power field and the Broncos and lots of other venues around the country are doing that as well. And um, you know, I think that there's that uh duty of care that a lot of venues are taking into consideration, uh, saying, like, look, we're gonna open up our venues, we're gonna have events, we want you here, we want you to come, but the venues are are not sleeping on the fact that they have they want to provide a safe environment for people to have fun in.

SPEAKER_02 14:25

Um yeah, and I don't think any venue wants it to come back to them in the news that they are the hotspot that started it.

SPEAKER_05 14:31

No, they don't.

SPEAKER_02 14:32

They don't, they don't want in power fields like ah no, we love we love that you love the Broncos, have your COVID somewhere else. Yeah, yeah, I think that's where that's coming from. Yeah, it's been interesting. I I just wanted I was kind of wondering. So, speaking of that, where are we on sports? How are we doing?

SPEAKER_00 14:51

Sports is is quite interesting right now because you have places like uh the Texas Rangers had a full 100% capacity stadium for opening day, and it looked like everything was back to normal. Masks were optional. It wasn't a a mandate from what I could see. Um, here in Colorado, it's um, you know, the the Rockies are are at like 21,000, I think, capacity is what they're they're operating with. And um people are loving going out to the ballpark. Um, I know the mask mandate is something that uh I've seen some patrons that have expressed frustration with and and whatnot. And mask enforcement is is interesting, um, especially when people are like, I'm chewing, you know, or uh, but it's changed like the menu of items that you can eat. It's like um, you know, even in the song Taking Me Out to the Ball Game, there's take buy me some peanuts and cracker jacks. Well, guess what?

SPEAKER_02 15:42

You can't eat at a lot of ballparks right now is it's true.

SPEAKER_00 15:46

Peanuts and and cracker jacks and popcorn and and things like those things where your bass can be off for a long time. Um, but then uh so like the NFL has come out and said that they want to have 100% full capacity stadiums come the fall. Um, you know, I've always been a big uh advocate that the NFL kind of drives that train with here's what we're gonna do. I mean, something football this way comes, is what I always say about this time every year where you know the NFL season is gonna be upon us. I mean, shoot, the draft is next weekend. I know.

SPEAKER_02 16:19

And is it really? Yeah, the draft is Thursday.

SPEAKER_00 16:21

Uh starts Thursday night, Thursday night to the weekend, I think. Yeah, for the first round. And and um, you know, it's in it's in Cleveland and it's back to an in-person draft.

SPEAKER_02 16:30

And okay, I have a question about the draft, and I know this is going down a rabbit hole. So we have COVID and a pandemic and a shutdown, which really, as we've talked about before, impacted college players. Who's able to be drafted? They didn't play.

SPEAKER_00 16:45

They did play last year, everybody got to play, and then even some of the smaller conferences moved their schedule to this fall or to this spring. And and they played, uh, for instance, like uh uh Deion Sanders, former NFL or Hall of Famer, he's the head coach at Jackson State, and they're playing their sleep their season here in the spring. They played their season.

SPEAKER_02 17:03

Um not we'll talk about what kind of coach Deion Sanders is later, but they did play enough to get a draft, like honestly.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

Yeah, they they played and the play there was some players that sat out playing last year because they felt like they wanted to wait until the 2021 draft, and to be eligible for that, they have to be um age eligible or years removed from high school eligible, as I believe is I believe is the rules are for the NFL. But yeah, they they got enough in, they got enough in for basketball too. So basketball's gonna have a gen HL is gonna have a draft. Um most um most schools got to play hockey. I mean, uh they they got they found a way, they figured it out and they got to play. Um, even with college hockey, there was a bubble for a little while before they went to back to the campuses. Um but the uh the indoor sports are you know are gonna be the last ones to have full capacity, and especially with no masks and whatnot for many different reasons. But the Florida Panthers just announced this week that they're gonna have a 50% capacity, which is about 9,000 fans in the stance for the for the playoffs coming up, which would be huge for the Florida Panthers. Um, I actually found a pretty cool um uh little meme, and maybe we can repost on our social media, not really a meme, but like a graphic that I saw about uh the capacity that each team in NHL is having in their and their facilities right now or proposed for the playoffs. So um the playoffs are coming in less than a month, you know, a few weeks. And that's so great. I mean, it's it's it's it's huge. Um I I just heard that they even are trying to figure out a way to incorporate the the Canadian teams with the NHL. Uh heard on NHL radio that there's talks of potentially doing a bubble for the Canadian team since they still don't have fans in the stands up there and the borders still has the restrictions and and whatnot. And that's not gonna make a difference of US teams playing Canadian teams until we get to the semifinals before the cup finals themselves. Um, but uh it's in it's interesting that they're getting there. Um, I still we still don't know for sure if they're gonna have bubbles or not for the playoffs for the American teams. They haven't officially said from what I've found. And and by the time this is probably released, that'll be announced. Uh, but uh a lot of just a lot of exciting stuff. And it and NBA is um, they played almost a full season by traveling the country, and they've NBA's had extremely good success with their COVID protocols. Um especially as of late, they've had a lot of uh really good success and continuation without any players uh stoppages in play uh because of COVID. So the NBA's been kicking butt too.

SPEAKER_02 19:43

That's great. That's where we need to be. That's what we've been rooting for. And I can tell you that the public, as they go back to work and all of their other jobs that aren't event related, they're gonna get lack of live event fatigue. They're gonna want it back. I mean, the public wants their leisure and they're gonna need it, and we're gonna need to provide it.

SPEAKER_05 19:59

Oh, people already have that fatigue. I hear it all the time. Yeah. Oh, I'll be talking to somebody and and you'll just do the you'll you'll the conversation will naturally steer to what do you miss the most right now? And overwhelmingly, it's concerts.

unknown 20:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:13

Oh yeah. It's and we we miss and and it's sports. You think about like it it so much is tied to our live event culture. And and I can't speak to any other country, so I'll just say here in the US, but you know, there is something incredibly inspiring about standing with 30,000 other people and cheering, you know, and and now we have to worry about spitting on the guy in front of us because it could be deadly, you know, and that's that's a fatigue that we all experience, no matter how mask conscious you are, no matter how vaccination conscious you are. That is now something that's in our national subconscious. And and the other day for the Rockies, when they played, a friend of mine sang the national anthem, and she sang it there at the stadium, which is something that I missed when we were working Broncos when they opened back up, was that the national anthem was not sung live, it was not sung in the stadium. And when I saw my friend in the stadium at Rockies, I was like, oh, I didn't even realize how much I missed that, how much I missed that little aspect of it, and that's back and hallelujah. But it's crazy. I'm I'm worried. I and we all want, you know, we all want to stand and cheer.

SPEAKER_05 21:24

Because I am vaccinated. Can I choose to spit on the guy in front of me?

SPEAKER_01 21:29

I think maybe that is an option still at least.

SPEAKER_05 21:35

I guess I'll ask first, but that's weird.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

It's all about consent, it's always been about consent, bro.

SPEAKER_00 21:41

I don't know about you, but I always preferred to be spit on before COVID. So I can't wait to see you again, buddy. It was it was something that was just it was a great reserve waiting for you. Right? I didn't stand close enough that all of your spittle gets in and around my face.

SPEAKER_02 21:57

Do you all watch movies in like in those really dramatic moments where? Like somebody spits on somebody else, like oh like 25 years old.

SPEAKER_01 22:05

We just lost like half our followers, half our listeners right there.

SPEAKER_00 22:17

There was a pretty nasty incident involving the Broncos and 49ers uh back in the late 90s where where uh Bill Romanowski spit on uh one of the 49ers players. I forget who it is at the moment. Um, somebody out there is yelling at their radio right now, going, it's give us blood, Gary's and Hurst, or Trollones or whoever it was. Um, but he spit on him and they it was on like a Monday night or Sunday night football uh game, and they had a slow motion of this giant loogie that he was on space.

SPEAKER_02 22:45

I mean, that's what we miss. Getting back to the days of the slow-mo giant loogie.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

Yeah, we can have we can spear into a whole different discussion on a different episode about the bottom of fluids that we come into contact with. Oh, just the frequency and the that could be an entire topic. Abnormal circumstances, abnormal situations.

SPEAKER_05 23:14

It'll be that'll be a disgusting.

SPEAKER_02 23:20

Absolutely, yeah. Clearly, we need to get back to it because we have spiraled.

SPEAKER_05 23:25

We have spiraled in our it's so bad we're missing other people's bodily fluids. That's weird. I need a bio cleanup.

SPEAKER_02 23:34

Heather and Colin, I I think I asked you this. Red Rocks opened, it's outdoors. How'd it go? Red Rocks is a world famous venue. How'd it go?

SPEAKER_01 23:45

Uh I'll go first. I was incredibly happy to be back at Red Rocks. I personally have a deep love for this venue. It's a beautiful venue, first of all. I think one of the most beautiful in the country. And I have traveled to many places in the country to attend events, and it is a nationwide known venue. And so it's just it's wonderful. It just went through a revitalization. It uh has new construction that makes it even more wonderful. And I think it went well. I think people for the most part were behaved, well behaved. Um, and they enjoyed themselves. I, you know, you could just tell the the vibes of the crowd were on point. And I think people were just thankful to be back.

SPEAKER_00 24:37

I agree. And it's beautiful. I agree. I think I think I openly wept when I was like when when the band took the stage and I was I stood outside of the first aid area and just listening for a minute. And I was like, I don't even care whether or not I like this music or like this band is irrelevant because I got to hear really loud live music with people in attendance at Red Rocks, which is you know the penultimate place to see, and I'll take the Pepsi challenge against the Gorge any day. Um then Gorge can finish second, whatever. But uh Red Rocks, uh Red Rocks and just the the attitude of everybody there, all the employees were excited, the fans were excited, and and the thing that's interesting about um outdoor uh venues right now outside of Denver County is that there's no mask mandate, so uh we didn't have to have a mask patrol or anything, and um, there is still some uh pretty significant social distancing requirements where they have quadrants set up in the seats, um, and uh they have aisles designated to be occupied and aisles that can't be, and then they have separation. So a lot of it is just the social distancing policing, but even then it's um you know, I'm I'm excited to see how that continues, but uh it's been pretty good. Everybody's been real pretty receptive to that. And uh Heather, I don't know if you've actually gone into the to the seating area during music yet, but I went in there for a minute and looked up, and that place could make 2,500 people look like 10,000. And it did. It looked, I was like, I looked up and I was like, there's no way that's only 2,500 people, and it's amazing.

SPEAKER_05 26:21

Such a unique menu, too. It is, and it was just Snoop Dogg sounds good there, and he can't say the acoustics are phenomenal. It's like damn, Snoop coming at me with that.

SPEAKER_02 26:32

I mean, we could do a whole episode just on Red Rocks, just on Snoop.

SPEAKER_04 26:38

That's true.

SPEAKER_02 26:38

That's true. Absolutely. No, I'm so glad because Red Rocks, um, like I said, it's an internationally famous venue. People travel from far and wide, and that's really not an exaggeration. Uh former um student of mine from Florida actually was at the concert, and I didn't know until I saw her on Instagram. So um people come from all over the country, all over the world, just to see a concert at Red Rocks. And so I'm really glad it's one of the first to get back up. And yeah, I'll back Red Rocks over anybody over any other outdoor venue, please. Red Rocks.

SPEAKER_00 27:14

And every and every other outdoor venue knows it. They're like, Well, we're not Red Rocks, but we're not Red Rocks.

SPEAKER_02 27:19

That's absolutely a hundred percent true, and we've all been there. I love it.

SPEAKER_05 27:24

All right, artists know Red Rocks too. Like, like they know that one of my favorite concerts I've ever seen was Kings and Leon there. And at least three times during that show, in between songs, he would he would stop and he'd be like, one of them, he's like, kick the house lights on. And of course, it just went bright as hell. And he was like, A band knows that they have made it when they sell out Red Rocks, and it was so cool to hear him say that because I'm sitting there like second row center, like, yeah, I'm in history. And then they uh and then they they pissed off the record label and did an encore of like eight songs because they were like screw it, it's rock and roll. It was great.

SPEAKER_00 28:01

I what I what I really think is neat about Red Rocks is the way that the the the venue and then the promoters that that promote the different of you know the various promoters that put don't put on shows there work together and they'll like they they understand the momentous uh occasion of a band playing there and they'll provide like awards and plaques and stuff. I mean 311 isn't played there 14 times, I think maybe 15. I'll have to double check. I've been there for most of them, and um they they give them uh they give them an award for like the 10th time they played for the 15th time they played, and and uh uh there's all kinds of those plaques and awards, and you can see some of them up in the visitor center in the museum there. Um, and also, I mean, I I challenge you to try to find uh any kind of rock band or country band or um any musician, really. Most musicians like when they play red rocks, they record it and then release it as a live album. Oh, sure. Um absolutely said that huge album that you recorded there. Yeah, Mumford and Sons. I was just at I was just at a friend's house last night and they were watching the Bad Company show from five years ago. Oh um, there, you know, and it was like in the rain, and it's still it's great. I mean, the the the amount of like you can just go on like iTunes and do live at Red Rocks and see how many different shows come up. And it's yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:19

Honestly, the only other place I can think of that does kind of the awards if you've if you've sold it out, if you've played it more than once, if you've made a live album, the only other venue in the country I can think of off the top of my head is Radio City Music Hall.

SPEAKER_00 29:32

I think Square Garden does that too.

SPEAKER_02 29:34

Do they? And and Radio City Music Hall will give you an award and then they'll change it. Like they'll they have like a gallery, and like you'll get your picture in a very special place if you've sold it out. If you've sold it out five times, that picture is then etched in gold or glass, and then it's etched in platinum. And Jeff will love this because one of the only three artists that have ever done it at Radio Studio is Neil Diamond.

SPEAKER_05 29:58

Yeah, my man.

SPEAKER_02 30:00

He's got a like a crystal etched thing in the back, and you know, they do the same thing, yeah. Um, the other one is Barney Live, the dinosaur.

SPEAKER_05 30:09

Oh, because of course, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

Well, I mean, family shows sell out, so but you know, that's that's red rocks. I mean, you're putting red rocks up there with Radio City Music Hall.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

It just it's awesome. I I think there's other like there's a few other venues that I know of that are pretty iconic that do similar stuff. The Grand Ole Opry does, um to some extent they do a lot of things. Yeah, and and uh that's a venue I want to go. I'll go see anything at the Grand Ole Opry. It's like one of my bucket list places to go to. And then also the Apollo Theater does some stuff. I'm not 100% sure on what that is, but I know that very similar to Radio City and Red Rocks, they do some things. And I'm and I'm sure there's dozens of other venues that we're missing right now that people that people do that for.

SPEAKER_02 30:49

They're probably screaming at us, but you know, we'll get there.

SPEAKER_00 30:52

Put it on our social media. Like social media, like, this is what they do here.

SPEAKER_05 30:56

We do it here. Here in Toledo, the artists get an award if they can find Toledo. So so like I know we've given out like seven awards, most of them just skip us.

SPEAKER_02 31:09

Oh, yeah. Well, I see your Can You Find Toledo and Raise You One. Uh Santana played in Las Cruces, New Mexico, and missed it. And I'm not kidding, ended up in Mexico.

SPEAKER_05 31:19

Because yeah, I missed the exit.

SPEAKER_02 31:22

He missed the exit and turned around at, and I don't know how you missed the exit and end up in Mexico because you got to go through El Paso, Texas to do that. But that was how he opened his concert when he finally found us. He turned around.

SPEAKER_05 31:34

Holy crap.

SPEAKER_02 31:35

The Florida Gators also missed the exit. Absolutely. All right, so all of that said, since we're in the big episode number five, what we want to do is kind of reintroduce ourselves since Jeff is a uh bigger presence with us, and we could not be more blessed and excited to have you on the team, Jeff. But we want to just kind of remind everybody why we're here, why we're doing what we're doing and where we came from. Um, and we did this in episode one, but Jeff, you weren't there, so we're gonna do it again in episode five because here you are, and we're excited. So that said, let's start with you. Who are you? Who are you?

SPEAKER_05 32:17

Who am I? That sounds sounds like a very deep question.

SPEAKER_02 32:21

What are you doing on this podcast?

SPEAKER_05 32:23

Uh man, I don't know how much background to give. I'm kind of a mutt. Um, well, I was born in no, um, so I've worked in events for a while now. Uh Colin was the one who actually brought me in uh to Argus. Before that, I worked on a task force. Before that, I worked at a zoo for like eight years. Um, so a lot of weird background stuff. Um, I got into events just because it looked cool. And I know like we've said that a lot in some of the trainings, like, hey, some of you may only know about us because you were at an event and saw Argus shirts and thought, hey, maybe I could do that. And that was kind of my thing. I was like, well, that looks like it could be fun. I could go to concerts for free. I love music. Um, I guess from a production standpoint, I worked in radio for a while. Um, I still do stuff with a morning show here in Toledo. Um I I was a DJ in Denver for years at the vault. I can't believe that's gone now. That kind of sucked. I love that place. We spent so much time building that place up. And then but uh so for me, like it was it was music that kind of draw drew me into events. I wanted to do that, and then uh ended up with Broncos and abs. Uh yeah, I mean it's just been fun. It's been one of my favorite periods of my life. It's been working uh concerts and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 33:53

You left out the part where very soon after joining us, um you became a manager on the team and you were you were a leader, you're part of the leadership group, real quick.

SPEAKER_05 34:06

Yeah, it that wasn't popular at first. I remember when you when you took me in the room. Oh my god, Logan. Logan was my first partner. Logan was an interesting folk guy, folks. Uh and uh he was very he was very good at teaching me everything I should not do at a at a show or at a at a sporting event. And I remember like right after I ended up as as one of the roam team managers, and Collins announcing this to everyone, and nobody knows who the hell I am. They're like, what the heck? And I remember Logan in this small group of people, looks at whoever was next to me, he's like, taught him everything he knows. And I was like, I'm gonna smack that kid later. But it was fun. I mean, it was fun to come into that team and and we all had kind of our role on there from a management standpoint and kind of what we did, and it was nice to embrace that and just go with it.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

Yeah, and you may you helped lay the groundwork for uh the the next wave of folks that came after you and the brigettes, and we'll talk to them on here one day because we want to talk about the events and and the event world for them, but yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

Well, we are incredibly blessed to have you on our team, Jeff. So thank you. And now we know what you're doing on this podcast. Thank you very much, Heather. Who are you?

SPEAKER_01 35:30

Who am I? Who are you? Um, so my name's Heather. I uh have been in the events industry coming up on my four-year anniversary. It's exciting for me, but I know that we have more, you know, veteran podcasters here on on this uh on this um crew. So I moved, you know, to Colorado, was really looking, I didn't know, one soul in this whole state. And I really wanted to feel part of the culture and get to know the city really well. And I thought the best way to do that was just to work at some events that were scattered throughout the city and get to know different venues. I am I was a frequent venue attendee back in uh New Mexico where I'm originally from, and what better way to get to know a city? And you know, there's great people that attend events, and maybe I'd meet a few. So, you know, I started and I did. I met some great people, and it was a great way for me to get to know this city. And so ever since then, I just got hooked. And even though I have great friends and lots of friend groups here in the state in different uh different capacities, I still just loved going to events, and so that's kind of my screen.

SPEAKER_02 36:56

So Kristen we met. Tell everybody how we are related in life. I I would, you know, I love to. Um I being born and raised in New Mexico as well. Um, but of the two of us, I'm the really proud one who won't shut up about it. Um I've I've taken on my Colorado identity. I mean, I love Colorado, but I'm like, don't mess with me and my green chili kind of thing. And yeah, that's a whole other fight for a whole other time. Um, but it was in because I grew up in Santa Fe, and Heather, we've talked about this before. Um, we had very different growing up in New Mexico experiences because I grew up in the capital city of Santa Fe, which was which is in its own little bubble an entirely unique place.

SPEAKER_04 37:45

Um love Santa Fe.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

And Santa Fe is where I fell in love with live theater. And so I went straight from high school and doing theater there and being an usher at the Santa Fe Opera, um, to going down to New Mexico State and majoring in theater to being hired by Walt Disney World. You know, it just like that was my you know, Santa Fe set me on my course. And so that's the only thing I've ever done. Like I didn't I didn't get into events because I love them um like you did, although I kind of wish that was my intro. Um I did it because it got a hold of me when I was very young in Santa Fe and never let go. And so yeah, yeah, it became a lifestyle. Um and I I moved from New Mexico to Florida, lived there for 20 years, did theater. I I every aspect, I was at the theme parks, I was at I did um, I directed, I performed, I designed, I watched, I taught, I mean, you name it. And then I came back to New Mexico, but you know, I bounced back and forth and ended up in Colorado and thought I just I just want to get involved in the real big stuff. And it just so happens that Paul Simon and James Taylor came in concert within a month of each other, I think it was. And I said, Well, how do I do that? Who can afford Paul Simon and James Taylor? Not me. Not me. Um, I'm a theater person, we don't make money. Um and so I looked up how to work for the event staff, and that's how I met all of you lovely people. And I worked Paul Simon, I worked James Taylor, I worked sticks, thank you very much, and then um shot up through there. And customer service and training is my passion, and so I did that for the event side of stuff. And um and now, now because of all of this and seeing how much the event industry, including theater, needs advocacy on a federal funding level. Um, I'm actually back in school and getting a master's degree so I can make that happen federally. That's what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_00 39:58

That's all you that's all.

SPEAKER_02 40:00

That's it. So it's the only thing I've I've known since I was 18. And I'm old. I'm the oldest person on the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 40:06

So oh, don't do that. It's true though. Followers, listeners have no idea. That's true. I'll get outed, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_00 40:18

Well, I'm the I'm gonna I'm the only Colorado native here. That's crazy to think.

SPEAKER_02 40:23

But um native thing, the native, the native Colorado native. We know the truth.

SPEAKER_00 40:30

Oh no, I was born at St. Joe's Hospital, which uh not gonna lie, a couple years ago when they tore the actual towers down in which I was born, I was kind of sad. I was like, that's where I was brought into the world, and now they're gone. At any rate, um we can edit that out uh if you want.

SPEAKER_01 40:46

Um they are so unnative, I don't even know where that hospital is.

SPEAKER_00 40:51

Yeah, I have no idea what you're talking about. It's down it's down by the Ogden. It's like it is, it's right by the State of Franklin, it's right by the Ogden.

SPEAKER_02 40:58

When we send somebody an ambulance, the hospital we have to go to.

SPEAKER_01 41:01

Oh, I am familiar with that portion of life.

SPEAKER_05 41:05

Is that where I went at the Ice Cube concert?

SPEAKER_00 41:09

Is that the hospital they sent me to? I don't think so. I don't remember, but we'll have to mention that here in a minute. Uh it might have been Swedish. I think it was Swedish, is what they mean. We will we will have to print Jeff t-shirts that say ice cube saved my life. Ice Cube saved my life.

SPEAKER_02 41:24

And we at Ice Cube on our social media, yes.

SPEAKER_00 41:26

We can. Um be like what?

SPEAKER_02 41:29

Who are you people?

SPEAKER_00 41:31

Right. Um, okay, so for me, uh Colin and and I have been in the industry for it'll be 24 years coming up within the next month. I'm a uh even though I was uh I mean I'm a Colorado native, I did go to high school. Wait, you're a Colorado native? We haven't mentioned that.

SPEAKER_05 41:48

No, that's not real. Hey, you're saying you're a native?

SPEAKER_00 41:51

I'm a Colorado native. Didn't know that.

SPEAKER_02 41:56

No such thing.

SPEAKER_00 41:58

So but I did live out of state for a brief period of time uh for high school. And when I came back the very next morning, my dad uh said, We're gonna go work for this company, we're gonna do this event. And it was kind of something I was somewhat similar with because we did a lot of stuff with the Boy Scouts and all that before I moved away uh when I was 13. And at any rate, and I was like hooked because we we met at this parking lot at the merchandise mart on 58th and I had 25 with uh all these other people that were going to work this air show up at the Jefferson County Airport, and I for never remember the name of what it's called now. Um it's like the front range of Rocky Mountain Airport, whatever. Anyway, the one in Broomfield, and there was all these people there that were just super like friendly and awesome and eccentric and energetic, and they're all listening to punk rock and metal at like six in the morning. And I was like, I've found my tribe. And just started working the second day of that event. There was a an unfortunate airplane crash that occurred, and there was an emergency evacuation of 60,000 people off of the tarmac. And there was we had an employee that had a medical issue, and it was just like all this other stuff. I was like, this is the most fun I've ever had in my life. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 43:11

So I don't know how to cut your teeth, man.

SPEAKER_00 43:13

Yeah, that's the way to do it. It was great, and um uh I felt really good because my till at the end of the day, because we were selling wristbands, that's pretty much what most of us were doing to as tickets to get onto the tarmac. And my till at the end of the day came out even and my dad's wasn't, so ha ha ha. Um but then uh as through those people that I met that day, I got brought on to work the you know, a once-in-a-lifetime event, the summit of the eight. The G8, you know, uh was here in Denver in the summer of '97. And had I was doing overnights at the convention center for that, and uh met some really interesting folks. Uh, met a reporter from Russia that had to borrow my jacket in the middle of the night to do a live report back in Moscow, but it was hot here and she was wearing a sundress, forgot her TV approach. Appropriate um attire for Russia and she was like freaking out. She's like, Can I please borrow your blazer?

SPEAKER_05 44:07

And you just happen to have a woman's blazer on. That's not there. It was hey. I was I was 18 and skinny.

SPEAKER_00 44:13

So you're like, why are the buttons on the wrong side? Yeah, all right. Like, look at this collar. It was so reasonable. Yeah, they were they were polyester. They had they all had solid follower pads.

SPEAKER_03 44:26

Uh doing what you can for international relations.

SPEAKER_00 44:29

Yeah. And then so um yeah, I did my part. Um, I got to meet a bunch of secret service people that weekend. I got to meet like the governor and a couple other like the governor of Utah, governor of Colorado. I mean, it was it was pretty sweet. And then from that I gained uh uh contact of being able to work backstage at Fiddler's Green, and my first concert was only like a week later, and I was just hooked. I was I did an airplane show, a convention um of eight of the world's leaders. I mean, I just remember like Forrest Yeltsin was walking around downtown Denver by himself, and that was funny and a bunch of other stuff.

SPEAKER_02 45:04

And I was just you know who you are.

unknown 45:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:07

Uh but it was it was great. I was hooked, and you know that my first event was probably one of the most eclectic lineups that I my first concert was one of the most eclectic lineups ever was uh the band Ween, uh Violent Femmes, Coolio, Real Big Fish, Nerf Herder, and and there was a few others, but those were uh was it called Random Festival? No, it was the KTCL. It was the KTCL Big Adventure. Um, how how many years did you say you've been doing this?

SPEAKER_05 45:36

Um 20 24. All right, for our listeners, uh we're all we're all like you know experts in our own stuff, but Colin has forgotten more about this industry than I know. I mean, your memory is just ridiculous. You pull names of stuff and dates out of stuff. I mean, if if you ask me my middle name right now, it'd be it'd be on how I would answer that because I don't remember, but man, it's insane the stuff that comes out of your head and how long you've been doing this.

SPEAKER_01 46:04

One of the most impressive things about Colin is his memory. He can remember everything.

SPEAKER_00 46:09

I remember a lot. Yeah, I do. I know that uh I don't know what day it is now.

SPEAKER_02 46:14

I like a walking poster for Gingo Baloba.

SPEAKER_00 46:18

Yeah, I need to have one more every word. One thing that's kind of scary about COVID though is that ever since I had COVID, I've noticed like my cognition has is a is a little bit lagging and I'll stutter over my words. Right. Got knocked down to our level.

SPEAKER_02 46:40

Welcome. Welcome to the normal.

SPEAKER_05 46:49

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 46:51

Oh well, what we what we can get to remember. Talk to our followers about um things that are coming up.

SPEAKER_02 47:01

We have to talk about what oh yeah, the young one bringing us back in. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. We've got a lot of cool stuff coming up. Um, I will I will just talk about Casey real quick. We mentioned her in episode three, right? Um, and she is this amazing, amazing, amazing um event worker and she's gonna actually come and talk to us on the pod. I'm very excited.

SPEAKER_00 47:25

Yep, and she's excited too. Uh when I talked to her about it, she kind of like was like, wait, what? She was very taken aback first that we mentioned her, and uh then I asked her to be on, and she was like, Absolutely. And Casey's story is tremendous. I know we've we've seen some people that have read the story that we posted on our social media. If you haven't done that, go out and do so. But yeah, we're gonna have Casey on. Um, we're gonna have uh a couple super fans to come on and bring the fan perspective, um, Joe and Timmy. And if you have ever worked an event, especially at Fiddler's Green and Red Rocks and Pepsi Center, um, or even uh Shoreline out in California, wherever, uh you you know Joe and Timmy. And uh there's a pretty good chance that Joe and Timmy know you, and they're two wonderful people, great friends, um, and relationships that have been built between event worker and event attender. And they're gonna come on and tell some of their stories. So that's exciting.

SPEAKER_02 48:22

I know I'm really excited about that. I'm excited about that one. A lot, I tell you. Um, and we've got a whole bunch of stuff lined up. I'm very excited. And we will head out the door with that. But before we do, as is always our favorites, let's talk about what we're listening to so that we can um put it on our social media. And please, please, please visit our social media. We are call time for events on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. And I believe coming is a TikTok account. I know we're very excited. We also are in the works, um, have a YouTube and account and a website being built. So every I'm just so thrilled every time we come on, we have something else that we've been able to do. But it's never fun unless you're not doing cool stuff on there. So, what is everybody listening to? Let's talk about that. Jeff, what you listen to? What's on your playlist? If I push play, what do I hear?

SPEAKER_05 49:17

Uh I'm on kind of like an old school kick right now. I've got like uh some Y Clef, the Fuji's. Um time. Yeah, I've been I've been rocking out to Lincoln Park. I miss Chester. Um honestly, yeah, for some reason I've just been on this kick where I'm going back through older music and listening to stuff that I loved before and have not thought about or heard. I own so much music, Colin will tell you, that if I I think right now if I could click play on iTunes in a little over a year, it would reset to the top of the list if it played nonstop for a year. Um as a DJ, like I just have so much music. So sometimes if I want to hear something, I'll just throw it on shuffle and I'll be like, oh yeah, this song's cool, and it ends up in my playlist, and I'll do that in one afternoon and pull out 20 gems I haven't heard in a while.

SPEAKER_02 50:11

I love it. I love that. Where are you, Heather? What's on your list?

SPEAKER_01 50:16

Well, for me, we took a huge portion of this uh episode kind of talking about how amazing Red Rocks is. So I'm gonna highlight somebody who is actually playing six days at Red Rocks. Six days. It just kept selling out and selling out, so they just keep more and more days. And that is Zoo Z-H-U. He's amazing. I always reach uh for you know, I always pick his playlist if I'm just looking for like chill music, doing stuff around the house. It's what kind of music is it? Um, it's like melodic EDM, I would say. It's very good. I like that's my neat.

SPEAKER_05 50:56

I'll have to check it out.

SPEAKER_01 50:57

Yeah, I did too. He's amazing.

SPEAKER_05 50:59

Putting in Spotify now.

SPEAKER_01 51:02

What about you, Colin?

SPEAKER_00 51:03

Um, there's been a lot of stuff that I've been listening to. Like uh there's there's this new group called OnSlow, uh O-N-S-L-O-W, and the only thing that they've released is a single called Let Me Rest. And it is fantastic. It's got a lot of kind of like mid-2000s kind of emo-y type of sound, or even I would say even not even mid-2000s, I'd say mid to late 90s. Um, they kind of remind me of the band Hum that did the song Stars, which is another one that's good. Um, but then uh I've been listening to a lot of Deftones lately, Shocker. Uh, and the Chemical Brothers just released a single out of nowhere called The Darkness That You Fear. And it is so epically Chemical Brothers, especially in kind of the other newer stuff. It's fantastic, um, very melodic and chill, but very danceable. Um, you know, the Chemical Brothers are like the psychedelic uh DJs of the EDM world. So, you know, like they they've definitely taken uh taken on, I mean they're the kings as far as I'm concerned, uh, when it comes to when it comes to EDM. But I have a lot of different stuff. Uh the new the new offspring of the listening to it. I'm not sure where where I feel about that album, but um, and also the the new Gojira is pretty it's pretty rad and heavy if there's anybody that's listened to heavy stuff. And last but not least, um there's a DJ group called the Avalanches out of Australia.

SPEAKER_05 52:31

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:32

They're releasing the 20th anniversary of their first group of their first uh album, The Since I Left You, that's got remixes from everybody from Prince Paul to anybody, everybody on it. It's kind of like that out. They're no yeah, it's and and their new album is fantastic, um, that just got released uh at the in the beginning of this year. Um I forget the name of that, but just the avalanches. They have three LPs out and they're all fantastic.

SPEAKER_02 53:00

What about you, Kristen? Last I know. Well, as far as podcasts go, I of course listen to us. No. Um I have I have a local friend here in uh Denver, his name is Sam. He does a podcast called the Ghost Lights Podcast, which is all about theater. And I've been really trying to support local artists, and so um the ghost light podcasts, I highly recommend. But um I'm also old school, I'm on an old school kick, uh, but it's it's it's theater. And I've been I've I've been at work. I I have a new job and I'm the very first one in, and I spend an hour to two hours alone in the office every day, which you know, we'll see if that's something they like to let me continue to do because they walk in in the middle of what I'm listening to. Um and they oftentimes don't understand when the song is the internet is for porn is on.

SPEAKER_05 53:53

Great song.

SPEAKER_02 53:54

I get really strange looks, but this is about the time I actually directed a strange musical. Several years ago, I directed a production of Avenue Q. So I've been listening to the soundtrack of Avenue Q a lot, and I highly recommend that. And then, of course, my fave of all time, the very best musical of all time. There is no debate about this. And I'm too I've been in Lay Miz twice.

SPEAKER_05 54:18

I tried out for Javert because I had I'd never been in a musical. Uh my foster mom was was a uh like an operatic singer, and um I tried out for Javert simply because I was like, he dies pretty quick, so I won't have to remember a bunch. So I'm gonna try out for him. And then uh the guy who came and they liked for Javert was tiny. He could he could not play Jean Valjean, but he he had these fights. So when they called us back, and this was a community theater, but when they called us back, they made us switch roles, and I ended up hitting Valjean. And I remember like I left thinking I was gonna poop myself so bad. I'm like, oh my god, you know how much I have to learn now.

SPEAKER_02 54:56

Yeah, you do, yeah, you do. I've seen I've seen you have a favorite line that you remember me uh from the music?

SPEAKER_00 55:02

Yeah, just like uh you if you were Jean Valjean, then you have to have something that you remember. Oh, it's all song, yeah. It's all music, but yeah, I can break out right now.

SPEAKER_02 55:12

Absolutely. My favorite theater line, one of my favorite theater lines of all time is from Les Miz. So that's easy peasy. Um, but I've been listening a lot to Le Miz and Avenue Q, which if you know those shows, you kind of go, What are you doing?

SPEAKER_05 55:26

But oh, I listen to I listen to the original broadcast of the original Broadway of uh a recording of Le Miz all the time. Oh, I love that.

SPEAKER_02 55:39

Yeah, no, we'll have to talk about that again. I Le Miz is a hands down. I've seen it professionally 32 times. I've worked it once. I've worked it a bunch and I've I've been intimately involved in productions with it. I was the choreographer both fight and dance, and that's silly to say I was a dance choreographer because there's no dance, but I was the fight choreographer and weapons master for one, and and the stage manager for another. It was it's it's my show. So I've been listening to it. It's inspirational.

SPEAKER_01 56:10

I love when we answer our these questions because it really just highlights diversity group.

SPEAKER_05 56:17

Oh, on on the podcast thing, has anybody heard The Office Ladies?

SPEAKER_02 56:22

No, anyway what's that?

SPEAKER_05 56:24

Oh my god, I'm addicted to this show. We were talking earlier about you know, when a show comes out once a week and you cannot wait. I I I love this show. Did anybody like enjoy the show, The Office?

SPEAKER_03 56:37

Okay, see, there's the problem.

SPEAKER_05 56:38

I love The Office, I loved it, and it's Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey, and they're doing a rewatch podcast where they literally started on the pilot, they watch it, and then they give the most amazing behind-the-scenes stuff about every single episode, and they're gonna do all 200 episodes all the way through. And I am like addicted to hearing how much goes into watching this show, like how much there is in the background. So if you're a fan of the office, in no way sponsored by the office ladies, check it out. Their production is phenomenal. Oh, I have a great show.

SPEAKER_02 57:13

I have a friend who's that like lives, eats, and breathes the office. I will tell her she'll be excited, she'll also be really mad that I went meh because I didn't like she's been their podcast.

SPEAKER_05 57:23

It's like it's just a very well done podcast.

SPEAKER_02 57:26

Done. I'm already recommending it to people as we speak. Awesome. Okay, well, thank you everybody for joining us. We uh we this is my favorite thing that I do in my world. So I'm so so excited when everybody else joins us. Please check us out. Call time for events, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, soon to come, TikTok, YouTube, and a website. We're very excited. Let us know what you want to hear about.

SPEAKER_01 57:49

Yes, reach out to us, connect with us.

SPEAKER_02 57:52

We are here for you. We absolutely love it. Uh, we will see you next time. I think we're that's we're gonna talk to our super fan, uh, Joe, I believe. Joe and Timmy, yeah. If not, edit this out. But I believe Joe will be with us next time on episode six. So make sure you hear that one. That's gonna be awesome. That's gonna be a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_04 58:12

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 58:13

All right, all right. Thanks, everybody.

SPEAKER_00 58:15

Bye.