The Dig In Podcast w/Johnny Ova
Dig In is hosted by Pastor Johnny Ova of Sound of Heaven Church. Each episode features thoughtful conversations with scholars, historians, and thinkers from all backgrounds as they explore the Bible through context, culture, and curiosity. Johnny invites guests to go beyond surface-level beliefs and into the deeper truths of Scripture, history, and the character of God. This is not a podcast for debate or division, but for those who want to grow, wrestle with tough questions, and discover the beauty of God's redemptive story. If you're ready to dig into the Bible with honesty and depth, this show is for you.
The Dig In Podcast w/Johnny Ova
Turning the Kaleidoscope: The Cross Won’t Let Us Look Away w/ Pastor Brian Zahnd
Pastor Brian Zahnd joins Johnny Ova to unpack what he calls the kaleidoscopic cross, a bold, multi-layered view of the crucifixion that challenges everything you thought you knew.
In this episode, we dive into:
- Why the cross can’t be reduced to one meaning
- The problem with penal substitution and transactional theology
- How art, poetry, and ancient voices unlock new angles of the cross
- Why Christian nationalism distorts the gospel
- How the cross shapes the way we live, not just what we believe
This is a powerful conversation that connects theology, justice, beauty, and mystery, all through the lens of the crucifixion.
📖 Grab Brian Zahnd’s book: The Wood Between the Worlds
📕 Get Johnny’s book: The Revelation Reset
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