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The Rebellious Healer
Welcome to the Rebellious Healer, where we ditch the fear, decode the symptoms, and heal at the root.
I'm Jenny Peterson, former holistic practitioner turned mind-body rebel. For 20 years I've helped people get to the root of chronic symptoms by changing the subconscious patterns behind them.
If you're done chasing protocols, done outsourcing your power, and ready to get to the root of what's actually driving your symptoms, you're in the right place.
The Rebellious Healer
#46 Seth's Healing Story: From Anxiety, High Blood Pressure & Lyme to Trusting His Body Again
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After years of anxiety, OCD, chronic symptoms, and searching for answers, Seth discovered that the biggest thing standing in the way of healing wasn't another diagnosis or treatment—it was the subconscious patterns he didn't even know were running the show.
In this episode, he shares what finally changed, how it transformed the way he viewed his symptoms, and why addressing the right patterns made all the difference.
If you've been wondering why you still aren't healing despite everything you've tried, you won't want to miss this conversation.
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We are here with Seth today discussing what his life and symptoms were like before the MBR program and now after completing it. So to start off, let's talk about what symptoms you came into the program with Seth.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I had anxiety was one of my big symptoms. I had OCD, mostly thoughts, uh, that were very invasive. I had high blood pressure for years and years. I was diagnosed with Lyme disease and I had Bartonella and Babesha and all those other bacterial infections that went along with it. I got diagnosed with Hashimoto's, low adrenal function, fatigue, heart palpitations, food sensitivities, and all kinds of digestive issues and everything that else that goes along with those. Overactive bladder fear of failure was a big one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So can you paint a picture for us what your life looked like? These were your symptoms, but what was your life like before you joined the program?
SPEAKER_00Before the program, I most of the time was thinking about how I felt, what symptoms I was experiencing, constantly looking outside of myself for answers to my health issues. I really didn't trust myself. I didn't definitely didn't trust my body's ability to heal. I was always trying to control my surroundings to feel safe. And this really, like all that stuff, really caused a lot of anxiety and OCD thinking. And it just caused me to be in a constant cycle of looking for something to fix myself and then thinking I found it and starting to feel better. And then bam, the symptoms are back, and and I'm back to the same pattern again. And I often told my wife it felt like someone was pulling the rug out from underneath me. I'm like, I'm doing so good. And then the rug just gets pulled out, and here I am on the floor again. My digestion was horrible. I started doing an elimination diet, and I got to the point where I was almost doing like the carnivore diet. Meat and eggs were pretty much my staple. My daughter hated smelling meat cookings and she was so over it. I think I might have scarred her for life. But yeah, it was just very frustrating and discouraging. I really had a heart to heal, and I had a lot of opportunity with people who desired to help me, but I just couldn't find anything that would last.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the cycle that you were on. That's just a very typical symptom when we have anxiety, because the anxiety is like the anxiety monster in the brain. And once you have one thought, the anxiety monster just keeps collecting all its friends. And you got this gang constantly in there, jumping from one thought pattern to another. So your symptoms regarding the OCD, the thoughts, the obsessive thoughts, all of that are very typical of someone with anxiety. Once you get started with that, it just keeps getting stronger and stronger. It takes over your life.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01And so, what kind of treatments did you try for the symptoms before you decided to become a student of MBR?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like most people that are students, I have a lot of different things that I tried, thousands and thousands of dollars of different things, chiropractic care for years, lots of different meditation modalities, thousands of dollars in naturopathic doctors and all kinds of things that they tried supplements, IV treatments, antibiotics, antivirals, uh, lots of other medications, low-dose naltrexone therapy, neurofeedback for almost half a year, ketamine therapy, psilocybin, microdosing, energy healing modalities of all different kinds. Um, I tried uh prescription medications for anxiety, high blood pressure, hypothyroid, hypnosis, subconscious work, talk therapy, tons and tons and tons of blood work.
SPEAKER_01And your medications for anxiety, your high blood pressure, and you were on those for years, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I was on and off of anxiety medications since I was 21, and I'm gonna be 43 this year. So I would be on it for five years, off for a year, back on it for another five years. The high blood pressure was uh about six years of being on, and uh, people would try to do different things. I had a naturopath making tinctures, and I've had all sorts of different things that just never really seemed to work.
SPEAKER_01So yeah. You have a typical list there that a lot of us have been through, so everybody would most likely relate to what you went through for sure. So we're talking about anxiety as a big topic here. What subconscious patterns did you find were contributing to a majority of your anxiety symptoms?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, fear of failure, like I mentioned earlier, was a really big one. It was really fascinating to work with my coach and really dig deep into the fear of failure and what it meant and how my subconscious was actually looking for failures in my life to continue the pattern that I had developed when I was a kid that I wasn't good enough or that I was a screw up. And so failure just wasn't a safe option for me at all. And whenever I failed, it really hurt a lot more than it needed to. And so that was a huge one. I just couldn't live life. And so it really what it caused me to do is become very small, live life in a very small way, a protected way, controlled way, so that I can just be safe in my environment, really.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, absolutely. And what do you see failure as now?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, failure was my coach drove it through to me so many times. Failure is only information. And and at first, I was like, what are you talking about? But now it's just so beautiful to see failure is nothing more than information that I can use to then move forward in life and do things a different way if I need to. Um, and it's not an example of why I am a certain way or who I am by any means. So I'm not attaching those labels of, oh, I I failed, therefore I am anymore at all.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. You'll never meet someone that has achieved their goals, become successful, whatever it is that you want to reach without that failure there that they haven't experienced. So embracing that failure and knowing it's part of the journey, part of the learning process is so important. And this is where anxiety, people will say, I just have anxiety about everything. Your body isn't doing this for no reason. There are underlying patterns that are driving it. If you're deeply in fear of failing, which you were, it's no surprise that you would be having anxiety because you're in fear of failing and doing maybe the smallest of things. So underneath anxiety, everybody's got their own patterns of fear that's driving the bus. What other subconscious patterns would you say were part of this as well?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, not knowing how to or stepping into my own personal power was a big one for me. And we actually dealt a lot with the masculinity, my coach and I, and really discovering what is true masculinity, what does that look like? And it really for me, it was learning how to set up healthy boundaries. I've always heard in different books or podcasts, things like that, oh, boundaries are really important to set up, but I never really understood exactly how to do that and what that was all about. Learning to make decisions, trusting myself was huge. Masculinity is a man who can trust himself enough to make decisions and not have to look outside of himself for answers. I was always giving my power away to other people's opinions about myself. I was letting other people define who I was, even though I always knew deep down who I was. I just didn't feel safe enough to live that person. I wasn't safe enough to live that life that I knew I was supposed to live. Outward circumstances would often dictate how I would feel and how I would act and how I would live. But all tied down to my subconscious was looking for to continue the old patterns that I had developed, which two of the big old patterns I had were you're not good enough and you're you're basically a screw up. Whatever you do, you're gonna fail at, basically.
SPEAKER_01And I love how you say that because I don't think people understand enough how those beliefs create the filter through everything that you are looking at. So no matter what the situation, you and I could be in the same exact situation. And if you have a belief that you're a failure, you're going to see that you're a failure, regardless if I see something completely different. It's the filters in which we live by. We're going to continue looking for that. And that's just how our subconscious works until we can consciously start stepping in and doing something different. And when you're talking about living from your place of power, we're really not taught it. Unless you have parents that are displaying that and modeling that or teaching you how to step into your own power. We're really not as children. A lot of times our own power is taken away in the big sense, in the big picture, because we're children. We become adults, and all of a sudden the world is teaching us how to become fearful of our own bodies, of anything, right? Fear is everywhere. So it's not surprising that anxiety has become like everyone's everyone has it. It's because we're not taught how to step into our power, and society is teaching us to be in fear all the time. It's not a surprise. All right. Next up, you but you talked about people pleasing.
SPEAKER_00What yeah. The last one, yeah, there's the other pattern that I had was people pleasing. And it goes along with the last one, but I was just always looking for someone else's confirmation to make a decision or to figure out what's right and wrong for me. I never felt confident. I never could trust myself enough to make a decision and stick to it. And if someone came along and said, I don't know about that decision, that's okay. I was always trying to make a decision, but then flip-flopping on it and not sure. And that living in that state of it was just disconcerting to constantly not being sure of myself. And even the fail the fear of failure adds to that too, because I wasn't sure because I didn't want to fail, or I wasn't sure because I didn't want to have someone disapprove of me. And all these things, like we're talking about, were all my filters and my fears from the subconscious patterns that I had developed when I was a kid.
SPEAKER_01These are very common limited beliefs and fears that majority of clients have. And when people say, I've got so many patterns, how can we figure this out? Typically, you're operating off of three to four patterns. And we can see it's very clear here that fear failure, not stepping into your power, the people pleasing, it bleeds into everything. If your subconscious is the commander, it is the commander in chief telling the body everything, like sending the messages to are we safe or are we unsafe? If we're in a state of fearing failing, not stepping into our power, and we're constantly worried if this person's going to be okay with what we're doing and that people pleasing, there's never a sense of safety. We're never that commander that is giving the rest of our team a feeling of safety at all. And it's no wonder our bodies are in a state of anxiety. The messages it's getting based on those fears. And so it makes complete sense. And these were the patterns that were driving your bus, not just with anxiety, but yet as you probably found out, they were bleeding into all the other areas of your symptoms as well.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. All right. So after eight months doing the deep inner work, working on subconscious patterns, how have your symptoms shifted?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we've already touched on a little bit, but the medications that we talked about earlier, the anxiety medication and the high blood pressure pressure medication, I am completely off of. And it's just it's incredible to me that I'm off of anxiety medication. Cause like I said, I was given SSRIs when I was 21. And so I honestly thought that I'd probably be on the rest of my life. And that just never settled well with me at all. Um, and so I am really grateful to be off of those and to have my full cognitive ability back. And the high blood pressure medicine I wasn't sure about, but going through the program, I was able to lower it. And then towards the end of the program, I got off of it. And I have 80 over 20, 120 blood pressure, and usually it was way, way higher than that. So my blood pressure is great, and yeah, um that's just proof that a lot of things changed right there. Let's see, my digestion has gotten so, so much better. I like I said, I was literally down to eating meat and eggs, and very occasionally I would have something else, but it was mostly meat and eggs. And anything else that I put into my body, it seemed like I would just start in my mind, oh no, what did I do? And then it would go to joint pain and obviously my stomach hurt and diarrhea and all the things, inflammation throughout my body. And during the program, I learned that eating foods with the mindset that they're harmful for you or is gonna uh send a signal that it's not safe. And so I was doing that constantly eating foods and thinking, oh, this isn't safe. I shouldn't have done that, second guessing myself. And so I was able to change that process. And now I'm able to eat anything I want with very minimal side effects. And when I do eat something that I used to question, I look at and I just I'm grateful for it. I eat it with gratitude, and I know that my body can use the nutrients that are in it to sustain me. My relationships with my kids and my wife have really been positively affected just by the fact that I can set boundaries and I have a lot better understanding of what is theirs and what is mine in the relationship. Everyone gets frustrated and everyone has their triggers, knowing what are my triggers and what are their triggers and allowing them the space to be able to work on their own stuff and then being honest with myself when I've put something into the equation has been huge. My trust for myself and my trust for my body has completely changed. And I think that really started by just I didn't even realize that I didn't fully trust myself or my body, just to just having the awareness that, oh, I'm not trusting my body. And then thinking, why am I not trusting my body? My body's gotten me 42 years of life and it's kept me safe. Allowing my body to do what it's supposed to do has been huge. So that trust is amazing. And that just allows me to not have to control my environment. I don't have to control everything around me. And I just feel a lot safer in my own body. I I have developed a faith that my body can heal. And my job is to keep my head in the right space and to send signals of safety to my body. And as soon as I do, that healing process will begin. It's been really great to have the new patterns to be able to deal with life so that I can just be uh healthier and my body can heal. My body scanning is no longer, I don't wake up and think, oh boy, here we go. I wake up and I think today's gonna be a great day. And just having that mindset and having the trust that my body uh is is on my side and it's not against me. It's really amazing. It's so amazing to be out of that cycle of feeling like I'm getting better and then getting worse. And then when it came and it got worse, it was like a double injury because it wasn't only I'm now not feeling good again, but it was the mental state of I thought I was getting better. And to be out of that cycle is like one of the most refreshing things that this program has allowed me to attain because I really don't allow my mind to go there. It's not just one thing, it's like the whole program. It's the realizing the subconscious patterns that you have and then realizing how they're bleeding into all of life and how they're causing this anxiety. And eight months at first seemed crazy to me. Then I about halfway through, I'm like, oh my gosh, I only have four months left. This is crazy. I I need more time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I realized that it really did take that long to get to the bottom of a lot of these things and really sift through and find those hidden corners where they were still hiding. But I can gladly say I still occasionally have invasive thoughts, but they are what's a good analogy? They're like a leaf hitting me from the wind and they fall off and they go away, and opposed to a two by four slapping me across the head. And there's something I just look at, I'm like, oh, I I know you. Hi. And then they're gone. It's really incredible that I am able to have that control over my mind at this point.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Your patterns were really deep.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You drive down that same road every single day, a dirt road, those tire tracks are gonna get really deep in that dirt. And you travel those for years, all in the way of protecting yourself. That was the only reason you started thinking that way to begin with. Then it became a survival pattern. This is how I live every day, this is how I think. It became so deep that you couldn't get out of that. Your tires couldn't go into a different path. It was staying there all the time. And it took significant effort that repetition, the persistence, the consistency that we provide in the program. And that's the part where people say, I've tried this. How come it doesn't work for me? Because every single day you've got to pull yourself out of that old track just a little bit until eventually the tires can get out. But it's consistency every single day. And there's gonna be days you fall off, there's gonna be days that are better than others. But that eight months of consistency is that piece that's so important. And that's where the rewiring really happened is every day you did a little bit of work chiseling at those old patterns. All right. So what do you think as far as the tools that you learned or what you've learned in the MBR program, how's it gonna affect you moving forward in your future?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, the MBR program gave me tools that I never had before. My relationship with myself, trusting myself, trusting my decisions, trusting my body, all of those things. I I really can't ever be the same. And really getting to the bottom of those subconscious patterns and realizing not that I not that something's broken or something's wrong, but something just needed to shift. That's huge. Cause I I feel like certainly Western doctors they look for things that are broken. And it does seem like most of society, if you have a symptom or especially a chronic illness, you're looked at as broken. And just to be able to realize, and I think every human being knows deep down that they're not broken. That's like an inherent thing that we have inside of us. My body can heal itself. And I and I think people who are searching for those things, they know deep down inside they're not broken. But it when you're told you're broken over and over again, it just gets to the point where it's this must be true. Everyone's telling me that. MBR program really helped me get out of that full cycle and to take back my power and realize that the amazing potential that the human body has to heal is very real. And so that's it, that was a huge one. My response to my symptoms again will never be the same because we see symptoms as uh part of the healing phase. And it's not something to fear, but it's something to have gratitude for and to look at and say, hey, look, my body's working the way it should. My look, what my body's doing. It's not amazing. Yeah, those things are just incredible gifts that I've gotten from the MBR program.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And even how you can now apply these to your kids too. See how one member of the family learns this information and it all changes. You're gonna be able to explain this information to your kids. You're gonna have situations that are gonna come up that you can utilize the tools. Obviously, they're kids, and it's not gonna be like being in the eight-month program, but you're planting seeds, right? Uh, what you wouldn't be planting if you didn't know this information. And I also wanted to say something that you said uh that kind of stood out. You said, I'll never be the same, or I will, you know, won't go back to those because I choose not to. And that is something that's so powerful because once you do this work, you can't unsee your patterns. You can't unsee it. Moving forward, you are going to have a choice to say, I see the old pattern. I now have to consciously choose to jump back on that train or avoid it. Versus before we didn't see the old patterns. No, you're gonna see it in no matter what situation is there. You have the tools to identify that. And then it's your conscious choice to decide Am I gonna take it or I'm gonna leave it.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. Yeah, and one thing I wanted to say about our kids. Our kids were here watching us suffer. They were watching us getting sicker and sicker. And going through this process, our kids are also here watching us heal, yeah, which is huge testimony to them. Even our kids don't like listening to their parents a lot of times. They don't want to get advice from their parents because they can't deny the fact that they see healing going on, they see change going on in our lives. And that was just really something that was pretty profound for my family.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I love it. All right. So, what do you think makes MBR different? There's a lot of healing protocols out there. What makes us different?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. The accountability was. Amazing for me. I'm definitely not a good student. I never really have been. And so having someone there to keep me accountable, to keep me on track, to call me on my BS was absolutely amazing. And to have a coach who was a student and actually had a chronic illness of their own and used the program to better themselves and then was motivated to help others do the same is a really amazing aspect of a program for sure. It's not just someone who went to school and got a degree and did all the things, checked off all the boxes, and now they are. It's like these people have walked the road. I really appreciated that about the program. And the monthly one-on-one meetings with my coach to address old subconscious patterns were really essential for me to rewrite those old patterns into new healthier ways of living. And I just felt so like each time I had those meetings, I felt like there was I heard a lot of times during the eight months, like there's a level up where you are thinking, okay, maybe I understand what they're talking about. And then you go through, I think it was, I think they're hour-long sessions and you walk away. They're two hours, yeah, yeah. See if they went so fast.
SPEAKER_01They do go pretty fast.
SPEAKER_00It do go fast for sure. So two-hour-long session, I really felt walking away from those. My uh ability to understand everything had become so much more clear. And I just felt like every time I walked away, I was gaining more and more traction on getting on the right track.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Thank you for that. Those are some major pieces that I too feel set us apart as well. And like you said, your coach is someone that has gone through this. There's tons of certifications out there that a person can get to do this type of work, yes. But to truly understand what your clients are going through when they may have fear about their symptoms or are waking up and they're doing body scanning, you have to know what that feels like. If someone says to me, I woke up and I was body scanning and I just went right right down the rabbit hole, yeah. I know exactly what that feels like. I can picture myself five years ago in my bathroom doing the same thing. That is relatable and that is so powerful. You're gonna be working with someone that knows pretty much exactly how you're feeling and what you've gone through. And it's important to have someone guiding you that has experienced that and has also come out on the other side as well. So, lastly, if someone who has chronic symptoms is listening to this, not knowing if they should take the program, what would you say to them?
SPEAKER_00I can only say my own experience, and I spent years and years of trying to figure out the solution for my chronic health. And I spent thousands and thousands of dollars over those years. And I never was able to get to the bottom of it. I wasn't able to get to long-lasting healing. I wasn't able to get off the medications. I wasn't able to stop that cycle of feeling like I'm getting somewhere and then the rug getting pulled out from underneath me. I started dealing with the underlying patterns that were running the show. Um, nothing really worked long term. And that's what MBR did for me. They it really exposed the subconscious patterns and it gave me tools to create new better patterns. This is the piece that I believe it really was missing for me that whole time I was trying to figure out those years and years of that cycle. I didn't have those tools. I didn't have the understanding of the patterns, the filters that were running the show. And I think a lot of other people who have chronic illness are probably feeling that same way. So I would really encourage people to be bold and take the step, even though it's eight months and it's not cheap. It was way more expensive for me to go through all those different modalities. And I am really grateful that life led me to the MBR program and that I'm a graduate up with now.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we are too, Seth. Great job. Congratulations. You're definitely an example of what MBR is, what the work is, and what the transformation is. Thank you so much for sharing your healing success with myself and those that are listening. You're definitely an inspiration to others that they can heal and get their life back. Congratulations.
SPEAKER_00Thank you.