WTFU S2:E3: What If Your Personality Isn't Your Identity?

Who are you... really?

Most of us spend our lives introducing ourselves by our labels: I'm shy. I'm anxious. I'm the responsible one. I'm bad with money. I'm a people pleaser.

But what if those aren't who you are at all?

In this episode, Stacey and Lori explore the difference between personality and identity, how our experiences shape the stories we tell ourselves, and why we often defend the very limitations we're trying to overcome. Together, they examine how changing the way we identify ourselves can open the door to lasting transformation—not by becoming someone else, but by remembering that we are so much more than the labels we've collected along the way.

If you've ever felt stuck in a version of yourself that no longer fits, this conversation may just be your invitation to see yourself differently.

Because perhaps your personality is simply the costume...

...and your true identity is the one wearing it.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Hello, everybody, and welcome to the podcast. Here we are, episode three, season two. I'm here with Stacy Casey. Hello, hello, hello. And I was thinking about the progression of the show's episodes so far. So in episode one, we were kind of asking you know, who would we be if we were living our dream life? And then in episode two, we explored like how do we begin living from that future now. But then during that episode, it you know, we still were having struggles, maybe, I guess, because life, you know, life can fucking suck, and and you can have situations going on in your life that you maybe struggle to get past. Like, I can't live from this place because this thing is going on and it's reality, you know. And so, yeah, so I thought, okay, so in this episode, I want to ask, like, what's stopping us? Like, what of those things in life that are preventing us from living from the end are we dealing with, and how can we get past them? Because I think the answer to that question, more often than not, isn't lack of opportunity, it's the identities that we've mistaken for ourselves.

SPEAKER_00 1:40

And I think it's stuck in the story, right? Yes, I feel like it uh reclaim it, and then it's all who we are. But you can always re-identify with something else, but it I mean, it's a two-way street, right?

SPEAKER_01 2:04

Yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_00 2:06

In one aspect you are you identify as a healer, or you identify as uh something else. And you could actually get like you could actually square yourself in so much that you're hindering yourself.

SPEAKER_02 2:28

Yes, absolutely. And I and the way that that kind of showed up for me was that it we we essentially become wardens for the very prison that we're trying to escape. You know what I mean? Like for real, don't believe everything that you think, people, and so I and I think that what it is is that we often use identity, personality, character, ego, you know, sometimes even soul, almost interchangeably. And so I think separating them is where the interesting conversation and our power begins.

SPEAKER_00 3:12

So once you untangle the story and get away from the story, that's when healing and transformation really starts coming in and doing the work.

SPEAKER_02 3:27

Yes, and I mean, and and looking at what is personality, because I I think personality is more about how we tend to express ourselves in the world, like you know, it's our preferences, our tendencies, patterns, habits, whatever. It can be our twisted sense of humor, it but it's just the way that we move through life, so you know, you can say I'm I'm pessimistic or I'm optimistic or I don't know, I'm cautious or impulsive or whatever. But those are personality traits, and none of those are permanent because can our personality change? Absolutely, we're different at 10 than we were, you know, 40. Life changes us in the way that we show up in the world. So if our personality can change, how can it be our identity? You know, and and I think that then what identity is, then, is well, I think it answers a different question. Like your personality answers, how do I usually behave? Whereas your identity answers, like, who do I believe myself to be? So, you know, one is observable because that it's how you behave in the world, and the other is that's internal, it's a label that we assign ourselves. So, you know, like say somebody says, I'm shy. Is that a personality trait? Or is it an identity? And maybe it's neither, maybe it's simply a repeated behavior that became a belief, you know, like you felt yourself being shy or staying back from life, if you will. And so that, you know, it maybe it is really just the story that we believe about ourselves. So it's not ultimate truth, it's just our current operating system, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 5:30

I think it was pretty amazing. You hit a nugget right there, and I was like, oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:38

Well, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

Neither.

SPEAKER_02 5:42

Yeah, and and and I think so. The the thought that came to me was thinking about little kids, right? So a child doesn't wake up one day and say, I'm bad at math. Someone or some experience or whatever teaches them that. So maybe they, you know, maybe they failed a math test, or maybe they're comparing themselves to somebody else, because you know, aren't we so good at that? Or, you know, a teacher, a parent, what whatever, but enough repetitions, and then that description becomes an identity. I guess I'm just bad at math, you know, like so nothing externally changed, but the story did. And I think that the same thing happens with confidence, it happens with love, money, relationships, whatever. Because, like, if we ask people, who are you? They will usually answer with their story. I'm the responsible one, I'm the funny one, I'm the black sheep, I'm the caretaker. You know, those are stories. And the thing is, stories can be rewritten.

SPEAKER_03 6:59

Yes, they can. Amen to that.

SPEAKER_02 7:02

Yeah, and well, well, and I think that the biggest thing, Stacey, is looking at where did those identities come from? You know, because like I said, you know, the kid didn't just wake up one day, you know, and say, I'm I'm bad at math. I mean, so like who decided? Who first decided that we were shy or bad at math or smart or lazy or you know, whatever? Was it our parents, a teacher, a coach, a spouse? Who was it? I mean, it could have just been one painful experience that became a lifelong story, and I think that many of our self-descriptions began as sort of an adaptive response to a real experience that we had. So then, because like you said, about dismantling the story, the question then isn't whether it once served a purpose, because obviously it did in some way, but it's whether it still does. Does it still serve you to keep that story in play?

SPEAKER_00 8:23

Like one of the things I was thinking of, if everything that you do was taken away tomorrow, your job, your title, your role, whoever you claim to be, who would you still be? If all of that was gone, who would you still identify as?

SPEAKER_01 8:47

Right? Right?

SPEAKER_00 8:49

And I see many people having like breakouts over this. Oh my gosh, who am I now? What am I without that job? What am I without that uh friend circle? Or who am I without um having the role as being a parent? Or having the role as being the caretaker.

SPEAKER_01 9:20

Right.

SPEAKER_02 9:22

Yes, absolutely. And and the thing about that is like that's those are that's your personality, right? So uh forget Sarkey's gonna try and eat my airplants. Um, like our personality is the costume, but our identity is the actor wearing it, you know, and that costume can change from one play to the next, but the actor remains who we are at our core stays there. So whether somebody interprets that actor, you know, whatever, as consciousness, the soul, awareness, your higher self, whatever, the invitation in that is the same. Don't mistake the costume for the one wearing it. And like you were saying, I I think that we defend our identities constantly. Because if you think about like if you offer somebody a compliment, what do they do? No, I I'm not really, I don't know, whatever, that smart, or you know, I'm terrible with technology or you know, whatever it is, they're not defending truth, they're defending consistency because if they accepted the compliment, their identity would then have to expand. And uh, yeah. Well, think about people who are stuck in victimhood. I think that's a similar situation because I I think that they continue to tell the same awful story for reasons that are possibly even beyond their own comprehension. I don't know, maybe it gets some sympathy or attention or whatever. But I I think that they may just be afraid because they don't know who they'd be without that story.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

Right, they don't know if they're different, so they they cling to it and claim it as their own.

SPEAKER_02 11:23

Yes, and not only that, I think because changing the story, it's gonna essentially force you to take responsibility for your own life and the direction that it's headed in. And a lot of people, I mean, I shit you not. I had a friend who this was really, really early in you know, my spiritual path or whatever. When I try to explain to her about that, her thoughts become things and that what she focuses on expands and all of that stuff. She literally told me that she's not gonna deal with any of that. She's not, even if it was the truth, she wasn't going to consciously focus on it because it was too much work.

unknown 12:09

What?

SPEAKER_02 12:10

I should you not, and I was like, are you fucking kidding me? You are literally handing your power over to limitation.

SPEAKER_00 12:19

Right, like why would you want to do that?

SPEAKER_02 12:23

I have absolutely no idea. I can't even imagine it. I mean, I I don't know. I have no idea, but but I I mean I've noticed myself arguing for perceived limitations in the past, and it's not even intentionally, just automatically, like, well, I can't do that, or I always do this, or I don't know, I never blah blah blah, you know, whatever. So yeah, I think we just do that, we defend those things unconsciously almost, you know. But yeah, change that story, and and I think the the part about where really looking, where did those identities come from? Because shit, they might not even be yours, and a lot of times they're not.

SPEAKER_00 13:17

Your your parent someone else gave you that identity, yes, someone else imprinted on you, and it's not even for you, you're carrying someone else's shit.

SPEAKER_02 13:30

Yes, absolutely, absolutely, and I think that's the beautiful thing though, is that when you recognize that that you that you are carrying somebody else's belief about you, you can fucking set it down and walk away. You get to choose who you identify as. So, like for me, for for years, I identified myself as someone who had been struggling financially, someone, you know, just trying to survive. And and those things they were true at one time, but they weren't me. They were circumstances I was moving through. So I don't know. I I who I actually am is someone who values creativity, compassion, resilience, and service. And I think that that shift illustrates the difference between describing myself by what happened to me and describing myself by the direction I'm intentionally choosing, and that isn't pretending, it's choosing a different reference point, if you will, for my identity.

SPEAKER_00 14:41

I love that.

SPEAKER_02 14:43

Well, I think it's I don't know, what's a good example? Because, you know, we do love to compare ourselves to each other so much, which is so fucked up, but all right. Well, let's just say two people go for a run, right? They both go for a run. Yeah, person A says, I'm trying to run. Person B says, I'm a runner. Like the behavior is the same. They're they're literally both going for a run, but that the identity is different. The second person doesn't negotiate every run because it aligns with who they believe themselves to be. They believe themselves to be a runner. So, you know, the first person is basically still asking permission on trying to run. And I think that that's why changing your identity often changes your habits more sustainably than relying on willpower alone. Because if you believe yourself to be somebody who, I don't know, let's just take diet for instance, if you believe yourself to be somebody who naturally chooses the healthy choice, guess what? That's you know, that's who you're gonna be. That's who you're gonna become. So I don't know. I I just uh I really feel like it's time for us to fully step into our power to quit fucking around and and believing the limitations that we hear in our minds sometimes. And so think about the sentence that we use the most after the words I am, because whatever follows those two words, our nervous system starts looking for evidence to support them. So let's just say I continually say I'm disorganized, I will notice every messy drawer, every everything that's out of place. And you've been here, you know how horrible that could be for me. But sound that. Yeah, but so if I but if I say I'm learning to become organized, I mean, honestly, if I had the space, I actually am very organized, but I don't I don't have the room to put any of my shit. So, but anyway, oh see, and right there, I just said I don't I don't have the room. Now I current that currently is true, but you know, that's anyway, yeah. So if I said that, if I said I'm learning to become organized, my brain then begins looking for proof of of the progress of that instead of noticing every messy drawer or whatever. So one statement freezes your identity in place, really, but the other one saying that you're learning to become whatever, that one leaves room for growth. And so I guess the real question is at what level are we identifying? You know, yeah, look at it. Who who do you claim yourself to be?

SPEAKER_00 18:17

Dive into it, yeah, take it all apart and just kind of like really look at it for what it really is, right?

SPEAKER_02 18:29

And like I said, don't believe everything you think because uh I I don't know. Well, I when I first started on this path, I really had to police my thoughts because as weird as this sounds, I guess I I didn't really consciously know what they were, if that makes sense. I didn't really pay attention to at least the thoughts that I was thinking about myself, you know, so I really had to start policing what I was thinking about myself, and then it was kind of a funny progression, actually, because the way that the way that I felt about it was okay, well, there's some part of me that must believe that. And so what I initially did was I would just mentally say, thank you for sharing. Like I didn't I didn't want to discount the fact that there was a part of me that believed that thing, but at the same time, I was no longer willing to uh give it more energy, I guess. And so that's what I did. I just said thank you for sharing, thank you for sharing, thank you. Every time something like that came up, that I'm not worthy of something, or I'm not good enough at this or for this or whatever, thank you for sharing, but then I think it's a really good practice to have.

SPEAKER_00 20:00

I mean, if you're in that mindset and you're over and over thinking of like you're dogging yourself or you're stuck or whatever the fuck it may be, to have that conscious mindset to put that in practice, it rewires your brain.

SPEAKER_02 20:20

It does, it absolutely does, and but you know, the what I was doing was it at first I was like I was being really nice to the part of me that was feeling some kind of way about it, but then you wanted to put positivity on it, yeah. But then I got to the point where like, okay, I'm like a year into this bullshit, and the same crap is coming up. It's like finally, I just envisioned that I, you know, that um the easy button, what is it, staples or something? They have that easy button. I envisioned one of those big red buttons, but it did it didn't say easy, it said bullshit. And so I had this bullshit button, and every time something like that came up again, then I was like, that's bullshit, and I would just call it out. Nope, it's bullshit. I am not that, I am better than that, or I deserve better than this, you know. It's it's work. It is work. I'm not gonna lie, you know, and I think that's why so many people are okay to stay in that victim mode or whatever, because I think that they in, you know, some somewhere in them they recognize, oh fuck, I'm gonna I'm gonna have to work to, you know, to clean up my shit, you know?

SPEAKER_00 21:43

Right.

SPEAKER_02 21:44

And they don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_00 21:46

No, because it's easier to stay in the same pattern that is comfortable, other than doing the work and getting into the nitty gritty, because it's like always coming up.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 22:02

And then you feel like shit, when am I ever gonna get out of the pattern?

SPEAKER_02 22:07

Trust me. I mean, this is I I know people that have been on this path way longer than me. And it's been 20 years for me, and I still have shit come up for me on occasion. But you know, I just have to I just have to press that fucking bullshit button and and call it out. No, absolutely not. That is not who I identify as. Not anymore. You know, yes, it might have been true at some point, which I think a lot of it really isn't, because like you said, it's somebody, you know, projecting their crap onto you. Right. And um, but I think that you know, you you just you have to do the work, you have to get past all that shit if you want to free yourself, like I said, from that prison. Instead of being the fucking warden and keeping yourself locked in this shitty space that you may be in, do the work and look at those things that you believe about yourself. And I mean, if you have to journal, write that shit down so that you know what to look for, do it, do whatever it takes because we're we're not meant to just survive here. We are supposed to be thriving in this lifetime, in this life.

SPEAKER_00 23:34

I think it's interesting because like you, I've been on the spiritual link probably for the last 30 years, but because mine started super young and but I am not conscious. And it's so funny because when we're talking about this subject, uh just the other day something came out and I was like, oh, I don't, you know, I don't like this something X, Y, and Z about myself. But I did not make it a point, like I'm not conscious of it. Like I will project and project and project these things about myself, but I'm not conscious of what I'm saying. And after this conversation, I'm like, huh, oh I can switch it on and off. Yes, yes, I can go in normal mode and say shit about myself or feel shit or whatever, and then I'm not conscious of what I'm putting out there, and then when I need to like switch gears, I'll switch it on, you know? Yeah, and I'm like, oh, okay, now I'm really getting this and this and this. It's amazing how much I can dip out.

SPEAKER_02 25:03

Well, and I I think too that most people don't understand, I don't think, that a belief is nothing more than a thought that we keep thinking. That's it.

unknown 25:14

That's true.

SPEAKER_02 25:16

So we change our beliefs and thoughts daily. Daily. So fucking, yeah, so fucking think something that is going to be more empowering for you, something that is actually going to open you up to receiving the good stuff. And if that means keeping a journal, if that means policing your thoughts and and paying attention to what the hell your mind is telling you about yourself, fucking do it. Oh my god, I can't, I just can't imagine because you can't unknow this. Once you know that you create your own reality, you cannot unknow it. So you are then consciously deciding to, you know, just fucking, I don't know, let shit happen to you instead of allowing the universe to I don't know, guide you to things that are happening for you, like consciously.

SPEAKER_00 26:25

Yes. Yes, yes, yes. I yes.

SPEAKER_02 26:32

Yeah, it's just uh I don't know. After we had after we did the episode last week, and you know how because you were very open about everything and and where you were in your own s situation, your current circumstances, and I I appreciated that openness and transparency and you know your vulnerability to talk about that, especially on a podcast. But I think that's what has to happen, right? We have to actually recognize where we are limiting ourselves through the thoughts that we think and the actions that we take and the beliefs that we hold about ourselves. So if you can't fix it if you don't know, right, that is so true, and to get so you know, down on yourself and start believing.

SPEAKER_00 27:33

I mean, I almost had myself convinced last week and coming into this week, and thank goodness I had a couple people kind of like pull me out. Hey, that's not true. Whatever you're saying to yourself, I mean again, I'm gonna put this out there for everybody to listen to this, but I claim a lot of my success when I'm working. And when I'm working, I feel good about myself, I feel like I'm helping others, I feel like I'm being a service, I feel like even if I just see one or two clients, that's better than anything. But if I do not have that in my life, and I don't I don't, you know, it's not like I'm really on vacation. Everybody else is. But um I go instantly to I'm not worthy about, you know, I don't have work. What am I doing? Nobody wants to come see me. Like all these thoughts kind of come in and trickle in, and I'm like, wait a minute, what am I doing? I can't believe that about myself because I know I have work. I know that I I have helped so many people, but it's amazing how quickly it just turns right on. And you're just oh, here I go again. I'm in this, nobody wants to come to see me, no one wants to, you know, I'm not anything, I'm not doing what I'm supposed to be doing. And I had to kind of like scoop myself up and be like, wake the fuck up. Like that's not your story anymore, right? That's not who you claim to be. Like, you help all these people. Why can't you help yourself?

SPEAKER_02 29:44

Seriously, and and I mean, I know you to be somebody that is just you know, you're amazing, and and you're you you do help so many people, and you know, just I mean, just having a conversation with you when when something happens on you know, at work or something, you have a really cool experience or something. I love hearing that stuff. I love how expansive everything is with you, and you're so tuned in and and open to whatever the hell comes through, and you know, I think that that has helped me to be more open too, because you know, the way that this stuff shows up sometimes, it's fucking weird, you know?

SPEAKER_00 30:31

It's fucking weird, yeah. So the other day, I know it's totally off topic. I on my way home from work, which is great, and very grateful I worked that day. And I'm on the way home, I had to stop over time to pull over on the side of the road. So I live in the country and I'm looking at the fields, but then I'm looking at the sky because the clouds were crazy. And I'm like, you know, pulling over and taking pictures of the clouds, and I'm like, holy shit, with your naked eye, you can see so much more than the picture itself, which I it I you know, I wish technology would just advance a little bit faster that you could actually see the things in the sky. But I swear to God, you could see you know, I just can't describe it, but it was like definitely mystical. And there wasn't like motherships or anything like that in the sky, but like the formations of the sky, how the clouds were, how you could see shit through the clouds, and it wasn't like the cloud was in the shape of a butterfly or a balloon or whatever. No, it like literally you could see, I don't want to call it like white beans, or you could see, I don't know. It was it was the coolest experience ever. And I was like, I've never seen clubs like this before in my whole entire life. You know, I'm 45, and I've never seen clubs like this. And I'm like, holy shit, like what is going on with the clubs lately? Well, you know, it was the coolest experience. And then uh 10 minutes later, it poured for like I mean, well, not 10 minutes, it was probably like 20 minutes later, it poured so hard. It was it was crazy intense rain. And they did not look like rain clouds at all. Big white, puffy clouds, uh, no darkness to it, the sunlight was coming in. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_02 33:01

Yep, you know, whatever that was, whether it was light beams or whatever, I it wouldn't surprise me at all because, you know, the the veil is so, so thin.

SPEAKER_00 33:16

I know, and here I go, you know, I'm on my candid, but I was like, here's something that is so cool that have you looked up at the sky lately and looked at the clouds, and how you can feel the connectiveness and and have a really cool experience. And I swear to goodness, I was like, you know, the only one on the road, the crazy lady taking pictures of the sky. But I was like, holy crap, this is this is something really cool.

SPEAKER_02 33:50

I love that though. I mean, the the fact that you noticed it, you know, and I I mean it's it's kind of been my experience as well that I've been noticing different things with nature pr in particular, um, like how my plants are all doing so, so well. I mean, like they're doing amazingly well, and you know, different things like that. Like I've got these bowl full of airplants, and one of them has a a little pup developing on it, and just my orchid grew, they call it it's called a cakey, a uh baby orchid. So I it I let it grow for a long months and months and months, and so I literally just uh yesterday cut it off and separated it from the mother plant and replanted both of them. Oh so just you know, I just noticing things like that.

SPEAKER_00 34:48

I don't know, but I was just told recently, or I just heard recently, that um the most intelligent life on the planet is actually plants. Oh they're more intelligent than the human race.

SPEAKER_02 35:09

Well, I that wouldn't surprise me at all. I mean, in is think about the movie Avatar. Have you ever seen that? Yeah, that was a good movie, it was a great movie, and the way that they talk about the connections between the root systems and and all of that stuff, how they communicate and and all of that. I mean, it was fascinating. And it that wouldn't surprise me at all. Not at all. Hell, I mean, dolphins and uh octopus and and things like that, octopi, I guess. Um you know, I think that they have far more intelligence than what we do. People tend to well, we think we're all that, and yeah, don't give two shits about this planet.

SPEAKER_00 36:06

Oh, it's just so sad.

SPEAKER_02 36:09

Well, you know, at some point people have to wake the fuck up and recognize the fact that this is it, this is the one planet, this is this is the one home that we all have, and at some point we have to fucking work together to take care of her.

SPEAKER_00 36:29

Take care of her, save it, make sure that she's okay, because Mother Earth is definitely fighting back, tooth and nail.

SPEAKER_02 36:39

Well, and everything on it. Look at all the all the species that have gone extinct because of us. You know, humanity really is the scourge of the earth, and and until we get to a point of of understanding that we have to work together with nature and we can't keep fucking around like this. Yeah, that's a whole different that's a whole different topic, and it's one that I know just I I'm the one that set it in motion, but I just was like, I came back to it.

SPEAKER_00 37:18

I'm like, the story trying to rework the negative pattern that I put out there of who my personality is and who I identify as and pulling me up. Like I really had to pull myself up these last two weeks and say, hey, you are not X, Y, and Z. You are worthy. You are just because you're slow does does not mean uh you are not worthy or you're not capable or I don't whatever the whatever the hell I tell myself. Well, and be conscious of it and tell yourself, hey, knock it off.

SPEAKER_02 38:09

Right. Exactly. Yes, that's why I that's why I had that mental bullshit button because I was like, okay, listen, I have entertained this nonsense for long enough. So we're we're not doing that anymore. We're not going to I I'm just I'm not willing to entertain thoughts like that that I'm that I don't deserve the life that I am trying to create for myself because it's bullshit. It's bullshit. And I don't care if if we wanted the exact same thing for ourselves, it would still be different. It would still look different because our perspectives are different. So what you want wants you, because you're the only person, quite literally, you are the only person on this planet who will manifest this thing the way you see it. You're you're it. And so, you know, that if you want to call it God or the universe or whatever, is wanting that expression to come through you because of its uniqueness to you. No one else will ever want the same thing the same way as you, ever.

SPEAKER_00 39:37

That's true.

SPEAKER_02 39:39

So yeah, so get out of your own fucking way, you know. Exactly. Stop being so mean to yourself and you know, uh stop believing what other people say or think about you because at the end of the day, their opinions don't mean jack shit.

SPEAKER_00 40:01

No, they don't.

SPEAKER_02 40:03

But your opinion of you is what can make or break. So think something different, think something that is actually supportive and encouraging and puts you and help you and put you in a better mind space. Yes, because listen, it at the end of the day, if you if you say that you want to be, I don't know, let I'm gonna go to money. Let's just say that you want to be a multimillionaire, but you have this belief that want it could be that you have to, you know, bust your ass 80 hours a week in order to do this or this or this, or that, well, the vision that I have for how I would spend this money, it might be a little bit selfish, or you know, or people would think that it's selfish, or whatever, and so you know, maybe I don't deserve it, or whatever, fill in the blank. It's all bullshit. There's enough to go around. There is enough to go around, and the reason for that is because exactly what I said, we do not want the same thing, even if we do want the same thing, it is going to look different for every single one of us.

SPEAKER_00 41:25

Right. Because who we are and how we show up, yeah, and what do we actually put out there?

SPEAKER_02 41:35

Yes, yeah. I mean, the vision that I have for my 260 million dollars is I mean, it's crazy. I I have this whole, I have the umbrella company, my sacred changes, transitional services, and within that umbrella, I have I've got housing for the homeless, I have shelters for animals, I have teaching mindfulness and meditation, I've got um learning about regenerative farming. I mean, there's all these different pieces that fall under this umbrella, and the funny thing is, none of it's for me. You know what I mean? Eh, yeah. I mean, you know, were would there be certain things that I would do to spend some of that money? Of course. Absolutely. You know, I am human and I definitely have things that I would like to do, but the majority of that, none of my vision is really about me. It's about how I can make the world a better place. And so And who impact. Huh?

SPEAKER_00 42:49

And who you can impact.

SPEAKER_02 42:51

Yes, of course. And honestly, I don't I don't even have to have my name attached to any of it. I don't, I don't necessarily want my name attached to it. I just want it to happen. I just want these things to happen. I want, I well, honestly, I there are so many components to this, Stacey. Like, I have um, I woke up one day and I had this vision that I had a um a whole line of well, I guess it's not a line, but I had I had multiple animal hospitals that provided at cost services.

SPEAKER_00 43:34

It would be amazing because we all know how expensive that is when they're in a pitch.

SPEAKER_02 43:39

Well, it in any case, I mean, there's not really any regulation there, you know. They basically can charge whatever the hell they want, you know. So, I mean, I see that. I see I see housing for the homeless, I see affordable retirement places, you know, communities where Not only can they actually afford to live there, it's not seven thousand dollars a fucking month, which is just oh, and that's pretty normal. Oh, you yes, I mean, you all you know when I was working, when I was working at that care place, um, I we had clients that were in some of those facilities, and the I'd say that the seven grand a month is probably the norm, and it goes up from there, and it and you know, there's all these different situations and stuff depending on if you need memory care or if it is assisted living or if it's independent living, you know. I mean, if you're talking assisted living, it just goes up exponentially, and it's just so it's well, it just yeah, don't get me started. So that's you know, that's one of the pieces. Um, but I mean that whole vision that I have for sacred changes has been evolving, changing, and growing for shit, a decade.

SPEAKER_00 45:19

So I need to start putting this into practice.

SPEAKER_02 45:25

Yeah, I mean that's you know, the the living from living from the end piece of it that's you know, I I do I do what I can do from this place that I am today.

SPEAKER_03 45:40

Right.

SPEAKER_02 45:44

So it's definitely a process. It is definitely something that requires conscious forward motion and removing those blocks and limitations from my own mental state, I guess, and and getting out of my own way by believing that this vision that I have for offering all these different services and things like that, and I might not even be involved in any of it. I it may just be that I set up trusts and you know the people that are already doing those things um would be the recipient of that trust money or whatever. Um yeah, it's it's just something that I need to uh continue to believe that that is it's it's who I am, and it's gonna come to fruition.

SPEAKER_00 46:47

Yeah, and I believe that if it comes into play, I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be totally different.

SPEAKER_02 46:58

And that's that's entirely possible because and I'm not saying this because I'm lazy, because I'm certainly not. I'm saying it because I I'm 60 years old for fuck's sake. I don't really want to get involved in all the details of all of that, but I still want I still want the vision to to become a reality, which and that's why I said that it might just be that there are trusts set up that are going to financially benefit people that are already doing the work, you know, because at the end of the day, what I want to do with my day-to-day is I want to continue to do my readings, I want to do, I want to make things with clay, I want to do resin, I want to, you know, what I want to do things that I want to do that are fulfilling to me, and not that that all wouldn't be fulfilling to me because obviously I wouldn't have the vision or the desire to create it if it wouldn't. But I just don't want to be involved in the day-to-day shit, you know.

SPEAKER_00 48:01

Mm-hmm. Hey, you never know. One of our listeners out there might have space or they might have a component to your vision of what you were trying to create.

SPEAKER_02 48:16

That is very true. That's very true.

SPEAKER_00 48:20

Just keeping the lines of communication open and the frequencies open to whoever needs to connect.

SPEAKER_02 48:28

Yes, definitely. And holding the belief that the universe is supporting me in bringing this to fruition in and just staying open to whatever comes through and connecting with whoever I'm meant to connect with. Because I don't doubt that the I'm you know, I'm not the only one that holds a a vision of a better life for people and animals.

SPEAKER_00 48:52

No, there is multi I mean, there's just thousands. Yes. The people out there that are like fed up. How can we how can we help? How what do we need to do?

SPEAKER_02 49:06

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 49:08

They need to come together.

SPEAKER_02 49:10

I I couldn't agree more, and I think that questioning who am I to make something like this happen is not the right approach. Right. Because why not me?

unknown 49:29

Right.

SPEAKER_02 49:30

Why not me? I want to see people living good lives, I want to see animals being taken care of. I want to see those fucking nature type bridges that aren't, you know, they're covered with grass going over the freeways and stuff so that the animals have a safe way to fucking get across and not get hit by cars all the time. And they have them at different places in the world.

SPEAKER_00 49:56

It's this here in the US, the United States.

SPEAKER_02 50:03

Well, that's uh again, that's a whole different thing, and and it's not really not really something I want to get get into because you know, I I definitely have some uh very strong people about many of the people here in the United States. There, I I just feel like other people around the world, they fucking get it. Here, no, you know, we're we just you know we're so proud of being an American and proud of this and proud of that, and people all around the world are so many places are doing it so much better than we are.

SPEAKER_00 50:42

It's just a it's so true, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:45

I mean, just be a good fucking person for God's sake.

SPEAKER_00 50:49

Right.

SPEAKER_02 50:51

But get out of your own way, get out of your own way and believe that you are worthy of something better than what you're currently living.

SPEAKER_00 51:05

That is absolutely, obviously, so true. Yeah. I mean, I can detect from it from just this week of going down, you know, the rabbit hole thoughts, and sometimes you just have to stop the rhetoric and say, what the fuck are you doing? Stop thinking that way. Start doing something else. Think a little bit more positively, and it's all gonna come back.

SPEAKER_02 51:39

It's not that's not who you are. Right. Well, and I mean, there's so much more to you than Stacy the massage therapist, you know, or Stacy the intuitive. There's so much more than that to who you are. You know, you're Will's wife, you're Logan's mom, you're you know, there there's just so much more to you. But even those things don't define you. They're circumstances because you know, let's face it, at one point I was Mikey's wife. Right, you know, but I'm not now. So it that doesn't define who we are. So really, I think what it comes down to is to to figure out what's stopping us, what's blocking us from the manifestation of what we want. We really need to look at who we believe ourselves to be, who we identify as. And then if those beliefs, those identities don't really resonate for you, if it's not who you want to be, it's time to change that. It's time to shift it and you know, to just spin it around, knock it on its head and say no. This, you know, what's the opposite of that? Like if, you know, if you're calling yourself a dummy, no, you're not. You might be you might be ignorant of certain things because you never were taught what they were or whatever. Does it make you a dummy? No. Ignorance is not stupidity. Ignorance literally means you just don't know. So it doesn't make you stupid. So flip that thing on its head, turn it around, and look at all the ways and in the different areas where you are smart, where you do have knowledge. I mean, you know, not to say where you are smart, I didn't mean that, but I meant where you do have that knowledge, and because I think anybody can learn anything that they want, I think anybody can do anything that they want. I think it's that that desire that is is puts you in the place of being able to do that, and the desire to learn something is the most important component.

SPEAKER_00 54:29

Very much so.

SPEAKER_02 54:30

Yeah, am I am I gonna am I could I learn to be a brain surgeon? Probably. Do I want to? Fuck no. No, I do not.

SPEAKER_00 54:43

Oh my gosh. Too much blood for me. No, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 54:46

Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm good.

SPEAKER_00 54:49

So, yeah, I I just people out there that actually do that kind of work.

SPEAKER_02 54:54

Oh god, yes, absolutely. I mean, there there's we need people that are interested in that and don't have a queasy stomach and you know, really truly have the desire to learn about what you know, whatever brain surgery or whatever. Um, absolutely. Again, you know, you are the only person that can express what it is that your heart and mind sees in the way that you will express it, because nobody else is gonna think like you, nobody else is gonna feel like you, not ever.

SPEAKER_00 55:34

That is so true.

SPEAKER_02 55:37

So I think to wrap it up, I would say, you know, really take a look at what you're thinking about yourself, what you believe about yourself, and if those thoughts and beliefs are serving you, that's that's great, you know. Keep keep on keeping on. But if they're not, it's time to change, it's time to stop limiting yourself, and and I think to to wake the fuck up to the possibilities that are available for you when you get out of your own way, and do the work.

SPEAKER_00 56:14

That's the main thing. Like put put it in practice. Don't be lazy. Get off the fucking couch, get off some pen and paper, or get to your iPhone, or get to your iPad or your computer, you know, just type it out.

SPEAKER_02 56:36

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 56:37

Sometimes you just need to type things.

SPEAKER_02 56:40

You do, and and I just I I understand that if especially if if the concept of a belief just being a thought that you keep thinking, if that concept is new to you, it can be revolutionary, but I really do feel like you, you know, you you just have to start policing your thoughts. You have to you do you really do and and recognize that you can 100% change the thoughts that you think about yourself.

SPEAKER_00 57:19

Story, change how you feel, because another part of it is like also like how you feel, and it also brings down your central nervous system as well.

SPEAKER_02 57:31

Yes, and I think the the feeling part is is the most important part, to be perfectly honest with you, and that's why I think the mirror work. Well, we talked about that before. Um, the mirror work was the most important component. When I wrote that little book of mine, my little pamphlet, Manifesting Magnificence, when I did that, I didn't write it. All I did was type the shit out. I literally was woken up in the middle of the night and told to go sit at the computer and open up a Word doc. But regardless, what I was told after I had typed that out was like essentially, if you don't do any of the rest of this, do the mirror work. Because until you can believe yourself worthy of something better, you will continue to push it away, whether it's consciously or not.

SPEAKER_00 58:27

Right.

SPEAKER_02 58:29

So set an alarm, go stand in front of the mirror for five minutes and say something nice to yourself. It is literally life-changing if you are in a space where you don't believe that you deserve anything better.

SPEAKER_00 58:44

That is so true.

SPEAKER_02 58:47

So go do it. Go do it. Yep, and thank you, Stacey, for being here with me this morning, and thank you to everybody that is tuning in here today. We're grateful that you're here with us.

SPEAKER_00 59:05

It's absolutely it was a good, it was a good topic.

SPEAKER_02 59:10

Yeah, I just well, like I said, I I just thought it was a a good progression based on the other the last two podcasts that we recorded. I just felt like, you know, I I felt like it's it was something that we needed to dive into because at the you know last last week you were saying how you were kind of struggling to live from that end result because life was kind of mucking up the works. And so I just thought, you know, this is a it's a natural progression to to now look at, okay, well, why? You know, what's the underlying belief that's preventing the good stuff from coming in so that we can clear it.

SPEAKER_00 59:57

And I just want to add to it and everything. Uh even with the progression from last week to this week and how mindset and how you know getting down the rabbit hole has changed. I decided that I was gonna take uh a trauma-informed feeling somatic um class. So this is what I have signed up for. I'm super excited, and it allows me to do something different and keep my mind focused, and I get to learn stuff that I actually love to learn.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:36

That's amazing because I I think it's it's yeah, I think you should do what you actually want to do because I I finally finished last week with my accounting certification bullshit. Oh my god. Oh it was awful. It's finally done, it is finally done, and believe it or not, I actually graduated Kuma Sumlade 4.0, baby, for the whole course.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:04

Wow, yeah, congratulations.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:07

Thank you, and it yeah, but I'm at the at the end of the day, I'm just grateful I'm done. Just grateful.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:16

No more. Our class.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:19

Nope. The next class that I take is gonna be one of my own choosing. That you know, I mean, uh yes, I chose this one, obviously, but I mean something that's gonna be more fun and creative, and because accounting, finance, blah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:35

Yuck.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:37

Yuck, yuck, yuck. Well, you're you're all done, and hopefully it helps you on the rest of your journey.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:46

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:46

Well, I mean, when sacred changes actually is here, I it's definitely gonna help me, so I was gonna say that's one one area that it's definitely gonna help with all your bookkeeping that you'll need to do.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:02

Yep, well, 260 mil is a lot to maneuver, so and you'll need it for investing. Oh, without a doubt, and that was you know, that was part of it. We went in into investments and stuff like that too. So yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:20

I think this was a wonderful episode. Please, um uh send some emojis our way, and again, wherever you are listening from or to or whatever, please uh drop us a comment below and we would love to hear from our audience.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:49

Yes, absolutely. So like, comment, subscribe if you're not already, download if you're listening somewhere else. But you know, we're we're everywhere, the podcasts are, so you can find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, all the all the things, even YouTube. So, yeah, so thanks for being here. Thanks for tuning in. We are grateful, and I more than anything hope that you got something out of this conversation today, because I feel like I definitely did, even just sitting with the information myself and coming up with the topic and and thinking about where I wanted it to go, you know. I think we all benefit from conversations like this because they're just they're expansive and open us up.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:43

You get those little uh nuggets, and that's the whole point. Oh my gosh, I'm actually doing that, and then it's like holy shit, now I have to get to work.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:56

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Well, yes, you know, luckily you you get it and you understand that you do hold the power, and I think that's you know, that really is the the bottom line. I I want people to understand that that yeah, I want people to be empowered to understand that they hold the key to everything.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:21

That is so true. So we are our own wizard, without a doubt.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:29

So, yeah, again, thank you everybody for for tuning in and join us again next week as we continue to wake the fuck up.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:41

Bye! Have a good day.