
The WOFOYO Podcast
The WOFOYO Podcast
Your Doctrine Is Wrong, God Is Not: Embracing Unexpected Moves of the Spirit
The flow of God's spirit cannot be contained by man's doctrines, institutions, or preconceived notions, often moving in ways that challenge our theological frameworks and expectations.
• God's next move won't be contained by man's institutions, doctrines, or ideas but will move in ways He's ordained
• Revival rarely looks like we expect, and sometimes appears as disruption rather than church growth
• Churches often resist moves of God they cannot control, prioritizing doctrine over deliverance
• Financial abundance in churches while congregants struggle represents a fundamental misalignment with Christ's values
• Religious leaders should be equipped to heal and deliver people but often resist those who actually do it
• Christians frequently mistake limited knowledge for expertise, especially regarding scripture and prophecy
• Celebrity Christianity created a generation that knows preachers' quotes better than Bible verses
• Personal time with God and His Word provides more reliable guidance than following popular teachings
Get into the Word for yourself—read God's Holy Scriptures, listen to the Holy Spirit, and be the church. Don't be wrapped around the axle on attending a church that's dead as a doornail. Be the church.
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Speaker 1:Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Woeful Yule podcast. With C Dove and Bones. We're going to be continuing our discussion that we started in our last episode, and in that last episode we talked about over luke 6 as well as luke 13, and even gave some references out of john 11, how those that were ruling the church of the day, if jesus healed on the sabbath or if he did something that they didn't like to mess with their doctrine, they wanted to kill him for it. And we concluded by talking about this idea of people are no different today because they'd rather see their doctrine affirmed than people actually delivered, and, although we might pray for revival and want a faster revival and all these other things, that if we can't control this revival, we'll try and kill it if we can't control it. And so, with that thought, we're going to be continuing this discussion right now. Whoa fo yo.
Speaker 1:I want to go back to 2019. I'm going to paraphrase a lot of this somewhere it's written down. When I first started hearing the lord talking clearly to the point where I'm writing it down, said this many, many times have you a notebook, pen and pad comes in handy. The Mississippi River in 2019 was a booger Over where I work. It was the highest flood levels on the Mississippi River in that location since 1993, which was all-time high in modern history. I'm sure there's some prehistoric things that beat it out.
Speaker 1:So the Lord starts talking to me about his next move. This is 2019. And he was going. He said the flow of my spirit, the moving of my spirit, is not going to be contained by man's levies. It's not going to be contained by man's doctrines and man's ideas. I can go over the levee, I can burst through the levee, I can even seep underneath it, but my spirit is going to move in the way that I've ordained, not the way that man is prescribed.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing. We start talking about a move of God. We automatically have an idea of what that looks like. I guarantee you, when you hear that we're having a move of God, the God said there's going to be a move of God. He didn't say the last move of God, but he, he's, there's a move coming.
Speaker 1:I guarantee you, whatever you have in your mind's eye, when you hear that is totally and utterly Not up to snuff, it just it's going to pale in comparison to what God's really doing. Or you could just have the flat out wrong idea. It's not big enough, it's not far reaching enough and it is really constricted to your idea of the institutional church. And I got news for you what God's doing and how he did. It was definitely contrary to whatever our doctrine was here in the Western church. And he's still doing it. And he's still messing with people's doctrine Because guess what?
Speaker 1:It was not limited to a church move. He started doing things without the institutional church. He started working in government and doing things there and the church didn't approve or disapprove. God just says I'm doing this Right, and there was a lot of exposure started to happen, right, limited to your doctrine. And if you really want to get on the wrong side of history, try kicking against the pricks, try to limit and come against what God is doing, simply because it doesn't gel with your doctrine. Your doctrine is wrong. God is not. Your doctrine is wrong.
Speaker 2:God is not. Yeah, I think sometimes, a lot of times, when we hear about a new move of God, the Holy Spirit moving, doing something, a lot of times we'll start to come up with these things in our head, like you said, of what it's going to look like. But those things that we're envisioning, those things that's in our head, usually are based off a previous move of God, something that we've seen before, and God's got a pretty good track record in the Bible of not doing things twice. He usually does things different each time. He usually does things different each time, kind of like Elijah, you know. He was looking for the whirlwind, he was looking for the earthquake and the fire and all those things that God had been in before, but he wasn't there this time, you know.
Speaker 2:So a lot of times we get ahead of God in that we start to anticipate rather than just being still and letting him go forth into battle for us and blaze the trail into combat so we can follow him. And I don't know how to do that. I'm going to be honest, Because when I hear of a move of God, when God speaks to me or speaks through you and we start talking about it, I have all these visions running through my head too, and a lot of it is born out of simple innocence. We just want to see God move again, but we still have to be careful, because it will draw us into a place where we try to put God back into a box and, next thing, you know, he walked right by us and we were too busy looking around and not seeing him.
Speaker 1:I remember back in 03, 04, when things hit at church we were going to, all this ugliness got exposed, but it was legit. We got there through flawed people. Imagine that.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:But what happened is immediately after the first service, that's the first couple services. Can't wait to get to service next Sunday because God's moving and the pastor come up and read something and I go, it's a good sentiment, but something in me going that's the wrong tree to bark up. So he starts talking. What does he start talking about? And again, I love the guy, but flawed guy, the other minister that was helping flawed guy. Guess what? What you're listening to on this podcast are two flawed guys. Okay, so that in context, he started reading this statement about on father's day in 1994, 94, whenever it was. He starts reading about the Brownsville revival and then he starts reading about what's happened with the Toronto blessing and and now we have something going on here that I don't know where it's going, but it's of the same vein. Okay, great idea.
Speaker 1:That thing, that thing that happened was nothing like Toronto happened was nothing like Toronto. It was nothing like Brownsville. And guess what? You know what? When people, when you say, move to God, the people there, the generation you know before us, because we're showing our age, you know, inciting those, but they were going. Oh, remember when all the Jesus people hit. Oh, you remember when Billy Graham started, started preaching and filled this out. Remember when, uh, oral Roberts and Catherine Kuhlman and all these were doing the tent revivals or W Shambach?
Speaker 2:Well, I haven't heard in a while.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Praise God for everyone. Matter of fact, I think I don't know I'd have to double check. I'm not going to look it up while we're talking here. The pastor of the church that got it big ended up going down to Tyler, Texas. Last I checked, which is about three, four years ago, he was still the pastor over at RW Shanbox church and he started over there.
Speaker 2:Very nice.
Speaker 1:I like the guy. He's a, he's a Christian, he's very business oriented. You know, again flawed guy, aren't we all so, except you women. You're flawed gals and it was so totally opposite, but it was almost like a forerunner of what was going on in 2020.
Speaker 1:When it hit and you don't think a move of God looks like shutting down a nation. When it hit and you don't think a move of God looks like shutting down a nation you don't think a move of God looks like shutting down your entertainment and your churches so all of a sudden, you got to get alone with them. You don't think a move of God looks like that. But that's exactly what a move of God you don't think a move of God might split some folks up. They've been hanging around rather than going out and go. Ye, if they've been hanging out and congregating for too long, you don't think a move of God looks like that. That's exactly what happens over I believe, over in acts 12, when there's much persecution arises against the church and they go out. Man, I sound angry. This podcast. I'm not. I'm actually happy and excited.
Speaker 2:I was looking back. Um, I think it's first samuel 21 somewhere around in there. That's where david and his companions eat the showbread and then, as a result of that, saul comes and kills the priests. Yes, he does.
Speaker 1:Okay, calls a doe egg the Edomite.
Speaker 2:Doe egg, that's his name. Okay, so, as I was reading that and enjoying my imagery, I see that because of what David did by doing what he did, knowing what he could do, exercising his own authority, knowing that he could, just simply it was okay for him to eat, because why would you deny a man sustenance? So he did that, but it ended up, for lack of better words, killing that ministry. For lack of better words, yeah killed Abieathar, the high priest.
Speaker 2:Exactly that here in Luke where, as you see, they're quote-unquote, working on the Sabbath and all these things, not willing to get away from the doctrine, from the theology, not willing to get away from that. You'll see ministries die if they don't turn away from that. You'll see ministries die if they don't turn away from that and, uh, turn towards doing what's right and um, having more compassion and and exercising that authority. I always thought it was. I always had the question too, um, the man with the shriveled hand, the woman that was bent over, and all these things. Couldn't a high priest have healed those things? I mean, isn't there provision in the law to offer sacrifice and heal those things?
Speaker 1:Shouldn't they have been able to cast the demoniacs out? Exactly how many demoniacs did Jesus heal? Did he set free and deliver in the synagogue, which would have been on the?
Speaker 2:Sabbath. So the doctrine and theology that they think they're protecting actually empowered them and allowed them to do what Jesus was doing.
Speaker 1:If it lines up with your doctrine. You're happier and more comfortable having the devil in your service than having people set free. Yeah, that's a scary thought. Yeah, same with the healing. Like you said, you should have been able to pray for it. Yeah, should have been able to do these things, yeah.
Speaker 2:There's a sacrifice to cleanse the leper, there's a sacrifice for all those things, and it's there. And so Jesus is effectually saying you all have the ability to do this, but I'm doing this now. You're really getting mad because I think, deep down in your hearts, you knew you should have been doing this uh-huh, there was a speaking should have been doing it.
Speaker 1:you sent me a thing. I don't know who this guy is, he's funny. But you sent me a thing. I don't know who this guy is, he's funny. But you sent me a thing where the guy is talking about, oh, somebody having to choose between gas and groceries for their kids, but you got $83,000 in your and he's talking about small churches, not just megachurches. I said you know that single mom is having to choose between gas and groceries. That single mom is having to choose between gas and groceries. You know you've got to have a board meeting to figure out if you can help her, but yet you've got $83,000 sitting by in your responsible, perpetual investment fund.
Speaker 2:That was a Christian comedian. It takes me out, man, because I swear he's reading our book and watching our podcast or something. But that particular statement that he made, I had some skin in that game because I had been in a particular church and I'd seen it. We had 12, maybe 15 people showing up for Sunday service or for Sunday school and about eight people staying over for Sunday worship. But we had over 60 grand in the general fund and weren't spending a dime on outreach. So yeah, I get it. Man, there's that type of thing going on. It just makes you when you see that or when you hear that, you go wait a minute. Huh, we got all this money and we're just sitting on it. We're not doing anything. It's not that we need to go spend money for the sake of spending money, but you know you're just sitting on money to be sitting on money. You know, do some outreach or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the guy said said if your church is doing that, so this is not a church, it's a savings account with a steeple. I go Ooh. So I flashback when I watched that you know always talk about. You know, have some doctrinal issues with them, and I am not, although I do have a great amount of respect.
Speaker 1:I remember being an altar boy. We called them servers. Servers, yeah, but you were an altar boy and I remember being an altar boy. Well, you had the church and then you had what they called the rectory and there was this little passageway between them where all the vestments were in the regalia for lack of a better word your accoutrements, your censors, the cross that you carry, the big candlesticks for certain services, and all this stuff was back in this. Basically, it was kind of a cross between a hallway and a storage shed, to tell you the truth, because there's a hallway with big cabinets on every side and that went into the very front of the church. You know where the altar was, but when you walk out of that little area, well then that puts you in the front of the house that the priest and the nuns lived in and they had a secretary and it was I believe it was Linda Connell. Do you remember her?
Speaker 1:I remember Linda, yeah, and good people, good family and came in and I just remember her pointing to the priest, a guy named Bill McGee. Heck of a guy. Father Bill was awesome, good Christian man and there was a lady. Car broke down. I got two kids. I'm on my way to wherever she was going and he goes hold on a second and he listens.
Speaker 1:He said first, let's pray. He prayed with her. Second thing he goes. He goes, how much is gas, how much is food? And I think, like I said, she needed repair and he had the secretary call one mechanics locally and he goes, we can help and this is this is 80s and stuff and uh, you know, back then I think, gave her about $120 and had that car fixed. I don't know if it was all cash, but I just remember kind of being a fly on the wall and I wanted to see what my church was doing. That's why I will still maintain that some of the best Christians I've ever went to church with were Catholics. I mean actually being a Christian. Yeah, oh yeah, putting in the work.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You might not like their doctrine, you might not like the way they do their service and all that, but they put a lot of Protestants to shame. So they got the repair done, but I remember that whole amount was probably about $1, just under $115, $120. And the lady's crying and he said, well, be blessed. You know he prayed with her. That gave her and her kids. He said, well, have the kids come inside. You know they don't need to sit out in the car. And all that Got them a made them.
Speaker 1:You know, have one of the nuns make them some sandwich. And you know they wasn't drinking soda pop, they was drinking water, but it was water and a sandwich. And now your kids ain't hungry. You need something and just, and they sent them on their way. It really is that basic, basic needs that's not limited to a church, because we are the church. Right, if you see somebody in need and you know it's legit and you know they're not scamming you because, believe me, in our career fields we've worked in, we know all about that. So I'm not saying, be a dummy, be gullible, but if you have the means and you can help somebody that actually needs help, I guarantee you God's going to look on that with more favor if you do it out of a right heart than he is than what you put in your offering plate on Sunday morning, exactly.
Speaker 2:And imagine how good you'll feel, knowing that you've done something, you've helped somebody. And I get it A lot of times today. We're scared to help people for many different reasons. Some of us are scared because, you know, scared for our safety. But take a second to pray and if you have peace about it, then you know, go ahead and do what you need to do and help somebody. You can always turn away, you can always change your mind and everything. But as Christians, our immediate response should not be fear that person's going to hurt me, that person's going to do this. There's also the response that, well, that person's faking it, that person's just scamming us, that person's just they might be, but the Holy Spirit says reach in your wallet, you know. Then you should reach in your wallet. You reach in your wallet, you may be the sting of conviction that that person needs.
Speaker 1:Brother Frank did that with a guy at a food pantry and he said I know you were not being legitimate. Let that do to the Lord, because he got convicted. Yeah.
Speaker 2:There was probably just as many people led to the Lord through that food pantry as there was any altar call in that church during that time, absolutely. So, yeah, doing the right thing is simply the right thing to do. We should be as a church, as Christians. We should be more willing to do that. We shouldn't be scared of someone's going to hurt us or someone's just going to take my money and run with it. We should be a little bit more willing to step in and do the right thing.
Speaker 1:Let me give you, since I've already put my foot in my mouth several times in this episode or episodes. Let OCW give you some advice. If you're scared that people might take advantage of you, take some self-defense classes. Learn how to use a firearm properly. Consider carry.
Speaker 2:Protect yourself.
Speaker 1:Protect yourself, protect yourself, prepare yourself. If you know what to do, I'm telling you from experience. If you know what to do, what to look for, how to handle it, and by all means, pray. As I said, I pray all the time. When am I not praying? When you know? When am I not praying? When's your prayer time? When I'm awake? You know probably sometimes when I'm asleep if I'm being honest.
Speaker 2:I hate that idea, that notion of prayer time, because it lends the idea that death's the only time you can pray, and if it's not that time right now, then I can't pray right now. So yeah, I like that. When's your prayer time? I'm awake, so yeah.
Speaker 1:So be aware. But I guarantee you, if you are trained and if you are willing to submit yourself to go through some training to make yourself better, to make yourself more aware, to make yourself proficient with some kind of self-defense, then all of a sudden you walking in fear is greatly diminished. If you want to not worry about money, learn how to operate with money and then you're not as scared of losing your money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they can't take anything from me. I ain't got nothing. Once you consider yourself a dead man.
Speaker 1:Anyway, you're not as scared of losing your money. Yeah, they can't take anything from me. I ain't got nothing once you consider yourself a dead man.
Speaker 2:Anyway, you're not scared of dying in the words of marine corps general mad dog, madison, be kind, be courteous, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. Yeah, it may not be as Christian sounding, but the principle is sound. Oh yeah, be prepared.
Speaker 1:Be prepared. So we've talked about what God does can mess with your doctrine. What God does can mess with your institution. What God does can mess with your mindset and all your preconceived notions, and it is human nature, especially if you're in a position of power, especially if you have something vested in there, how you can try and kill it if you're not careful. Now, that being said, I wanted to, as we're closing out, here's something that will change you, change me, and I'm a little ashamed because I don't do this more, but I do it a heck of a lot more than I used to.
Speaker 1:About the time you find yourself anxious and all this stuff looks like it's going on, get alone and simply ask the Lord, lord, what you doing. And I've had them go. I'm glad you finally asked and that's recently, but still I used to not ask at all because I had all this eschatology that I knew oh, this is that and this is that. Oh, man, and you know, I thought it wouldn't get any worse. And when I was reading the grant, jeffrey, and how Lindsay books and all this stuff and everybody's reading, left behind series and everybody knows, man, this is exactly how it goes down. And then YouTube came along and tick tock and I got people. You know god bless them.
Speaker 1:But I go, not even wasting the time to argue with you because you don't know shit. You really don't. You know what you're told and you know. You hate to be that way toward a fellow believer, but it's. There's certain discussion. You're just casting your pearls before swine. But the next thing, the next, I'm telling you, two years ago, the next thing is the Battle of Gog and Magog. It's coming, I'm telling you, it's coming. Well, he's right, it's coming.
Speaker 2:It may not be the next thing. I'm telling you it's coming. Well, he's right, it's coming. It may not be the next thing, it's been coming for a while.
Speaker 1:Matter of fact, you can make an argument that it's already happened twice. Yeah, but Sure can, and not saying that it won't happen again.
Speaker 2:Not saying that it hasn't happened, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah but.
Speaker 1:Oh, man oh man, you know, and everybody's beating their drums and and when the thing with the ran was happening, I'd go lord what, what's going on? And all I hear is I shared this with you. This ain't it? This ain't what, this ain't it okay, that's all I'm gonna know. You know, I didn't go broadcast nothing, I'm just like this, ain't it okay?
Speaker 1:So, everybody, and don't get me wrong, I think there were some legitimate questions that were asked. Should we be doing this? You know, don't demonize people because they ask the question. We stand behind Israel 100%? Okay, good, you should. But does that mean that, you know, israel should dictate United States foreign policy? 100%? No, that's a question. You're anti-Semitic? No, not at all. We're just sovereign. Yes, and asking these questions get demonized when, like I said, good old Brother Rudyard, you know if you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you.
Speaker 1:One of the things about being a man, but it's also one of the things of trusting God. Is Lord, what's going on? And simply asking the Lord what's going on, when all the news cycle looks like it's this and that and of course, it's all distractions anyway. One of the things I found out when that move hit in the early 2000s was what we thought was going on really was not what was going on. The devil had his thing he was doing and God definitely had some things he was doing. And it was all behind the scenes and it was all working in people's hearts and it was all exposing the good and the bad. And a lot of us, you know, and I was thinking about that, you know, earlier today as I was at work and I'm like, ok, you know, when that thing hit and again, if we can't control it, let's kill it. And that's what happened had a couple church splits.
Speaker 1:I remember this I won't say the lady's name and I liked her. I like still good memory. There was a lady that come out with some accurate prophetic words. Less than two years later she killed herself. Be careful about thinking just because you got gifting or just because you heard from god that it's going to be easy, we're going to give you direction, but it's up for up to you to keep faith and it's up to you to walk the walk and that doesn't mean that you won't have to go through some things. And I say that with all respect. I'm not. Please don't think I'm down on that lady at all. But there's a lot of people that go oh, they were used by God and they're hurting. They're hurting as much as the next guy or gal, sometimes even more, and a lot of them don't feel like they can show it because now they're stepping into a ministry role. It doesn't mean you broadcast everything, but just be aware there's a lot of people hurting out there.
Speaker 2:I think you're going to see more of that, more of God working in those what we're calling flawed people. More of God working in those people that you wouldn't normally peg as being ministry types and whatnot, what we've often called laity or lay Christians, because God doesn't see it that way. God doesn't see it as Christian leadership and lay leadership, lay Christian. He doesn't see it that way. Everyone's equal in his eyes in the kingdom. I posted a meme on our Instagram here a week or so ago. It was just kind of picking fun a little bit. It was a meme with Abraham Lincoln and a quote. It said the less people know about a subject, the more they think they know. Yeah, the more they think they know, or the more they think they know about something, the more they're inclined to open their mouths.
Speaker 2:Something along those lines, and I attribute it to Abraham Lincoln. Well, abraham Lincoln didn't say that, but it's a psychological phenomenon. It's a psychological effect called the Dunning-Kruger effect, and this is a guy that actually discovered that people who actually think they know more that the less that they actually know about something, the harder they'll argue oh dude, as if they know more about it. So I can relate, we can relate, yeah, okay, can relate, okay, um so. So the meme is is kind of deep in that it's a, it's a, a true quote, an actual quote, uh, but it's attributed to someone else and you know. So there's some, some deeper meaning in there.
Speaker 2:Because that's really what we do when we think we know something about a subject and we argue as if we're some kind of subject matter expert, and a lot of us do this. We do it when we see a headline and then we start arguing and talking about now, all of a sudden, we're Iran, we're foreign policy experts on Iran. We are we were all experts on on CDC and vaccine policy and all that stuff during the COVID crisis and we do that because we read the headline and we don't read anything else. The reason I thought that was pertinent for us, because we are all about getting into the word for yourself. Do that with the scriptures. If you're not careful, you hear someone teach on something one time and then you'll think that you know all about the Bible and you'll get your feelings hurt by someone who does so get in the room and read for yourself.
Speaker 1:We had a co-worker. This guy had the worst luck ever. I mean, couldn't help but, like the guy, hired him with you. You know what I'm talking about. He could read one article in a magazine and he was the instant expert and would argue with you Now, don't get me wrong, in midnight shift, that is a great way to pass the time, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Next, thing, you know man hey, it's 630.
Speaker 1:We better get things done. Man, wrap it up, made the night pass, it was a fun time. But I never met any person like Tom that could read a magazine article. And all of a sudden he was the expert man because he done read the magazine article. And it's the same thing again with the TikTok and the YouTube and all the social media stuff. And I just go there's a lot y'all are not reading. There's a lot y'all are not saying, which is why I've don't comment as much. If I get on my personal Facebook or something like it, I'll just comment on morals and different things like it. But you are right, there are people that will do that. But we we have made. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:I mentioned this in the book when we wrote that. I remember telling you about it. I remember walking into that same church in the early 2000s. I would say it was the height of celebrity Christianity, especially TV preachers, especially TV preachers. Now I wouldn't say it's like that now, because I know for a fact after reading some articles that there's some networks out there said we're changing our focus, yeah, and some of the big names got dropped. That is what it is, but back then it was always the latest book, the latest preacher, the latest sermon of this and that, and then here's who's hot and here's doing this and here's doing that, and everybody could quote their favorite preacher and their latest message that they had Everybody could talk about.
Speaker 1:I think this might have even been our first episode talked about the prayer of Jabez. Oh yeah, you know what was the Rick Warren one Purpose Driven Life? This might have even been our first episode talked about the prayer jaybez. Oh yeah, you know. Uh, the. What was the rick warren one purpose-driven life? Good lord, I got so tired of hearing about purpose-driven life and I was just I just remember thinking how much of purpose-driven life did you read? Okay, yeah, did you read that many pages in your Bible?
Speaker 2:Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1:So for all this stuff that we want to go and we want to be in, I just remember well, paula White. Did you hear Paula White? Paula White said oh man, do you hear what Kenneth Copeland and Creflo Dollar were preaching? Oh, what about why I need to buy them? You know, I was hearing Joyce Meyer say this. How many of y'all are getting alone with the Holy Spirit to find out what the hell is really going on? Yeah, because you might get some good principles from those folks. You might be getting steered down the wrong road with some of those folks and the bottom line is the one that isn't going to steer you wrong. His name is jesus christ and he's going to speak to you through the person of his spirit and he's going to speak to you since he is the logos, the word of god. He's going to speak through to you through the word of God.
Speaker 2:He's going to speak to you through the word of God Every time. I think that era there was such a laziness in the body of Christ there and it was masked as enthusiasm. But it was actually laziness. And the reason I say that is because we were very enthusiastic to catch the next Joyce Meyer conference, the next Perrystone, rob Parsley, tdj you know all these big names, benny Hinn we could name drop all these people and if you paid attention, if you watched enough of them, if you paid attention, if you watched enough of them, it didn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that they were all hitting around the same catchphrases and everything.
Speaker 2:Some would say well, that's the spirit, they're all in unity. Well, maybe, maybe not, I don't know. It could be that they just know what's making money right now and so there they go. It could be marketing, but anyway, the reason I call it laziness is because it's easier to sit there and watch two or three or four hours or afternoon of TV ministry, while you're sitting there eating popcorn and sucking on a Diet Dr Pepper or Mountain Dew, than it is to actually read the Bible. And I had so many people tell me well, I just can't read the Bible. The Bible don't make sense to me. Get baptized in the Holy Spirit. You're probably not talking to the Holy Spirit. You're not inviting Jesus into your home. There's some things you're not doing. You're trying to read it under your own flesh. But what you're also saying is God can't help you read the Bible. When you say that kind of thing, you're saying God can't help me read the Bible, and that is wrong.
Speaker 1:That's blasphemy.
Speaker 2:It's unbelief and man. We've got to get away from that. We've got to come out of that, and that's kind of what we're doing is. We want to encourage everyone to simply read the Bible. You can listen to what we say. Challenge us, please. Get into the Word and see if what we're saying makes sense. If it doesn't make sense to you, ignore it. Praise God and amen. God gave you a different message. There you go, but get into the Word for yourself. Read God's Holy Scriptures, listen to the Holy Spirit and be the church. Don't be so wrapped around the axle on going to church all the time. Being there when the church doors are open, especially at that church, is as dead as a doornail. It ain't doing you no good. Read the Bible, be the church, amen.
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