The Hidden Ego and the Presumption of Self-Righteousness

Confidence can sound holy while it quietly turns into pride, and that’s when the fall comes fast.  We dig into 2 Kings 14 and track King Amaziah’s arc: real obedience, real success, and then a turning point where victory lifts his heart and he picks a fight he never needed. The warning he gets is almost laughably clear, yet he ignores it, gets defeated, and pays a price that hits the whole nation. From there, we connect the dots to modern Christian living: the belief that being a “good Christian” automatically means God guarantees an easy path, public wins, or constant favor.

C Dub and Bones talk straight about cherry-picking Bible verses, the “Word of Faith” mindset when it loses context, and why knowing Scripture isn’t the same as hearing God. We also get practical about spiritual discernment, learning contentment in the valley, and how tradition or strong theology can still miss what God is doing right now if we won’t slow down and inquire of the Lord.

If you’ve ever wondered why your plans aren’t working the way you expected, this conversation will challenge your assumptions and sharpen your faith. 

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Transcript

A Serving Of Humble Pie

SPEAKER_00 0:00

The world is your oyster. Due to all your hard work and effort, you can't help but win. You're the best at what you do. You know it, and you let everyone else know it too. Sounds like you could use a serving of humble pie. That's right. Good old Humble Pie has been keeping folks balanced and from getting too far off track for ages. Despite the taste it leaves in your mouth, humble pie is actually good for you. It has such benefits as changing your perspective, helping you relate to others, and keeping you from self-destructing. It's also an effective weight loss item. Whenever I get too big for my britches, a good old helping of Humble Pie really does the trick. Remember, promotion cometh from the Lord, but so does Humble Pie. It's been Job tested and Job approved. Humble Pie. How about an extra slice?

Reading Amaziah’s Rise In 2 Kings

SPEAKER_00 1:13

We're going to get in the word for ourselves here in 2 Kings, chapter 14. I read this story and I start laughing because I started flashing back, and I'll tell you why once we get through reading it. But I just started laughing. I go, man, I have seen this attitude. I have seen this play out in a whole bunch of different areas. Bones, I'm sure you have too. In the second year of Joash, the son of Johaz, King of Israel, Amaziah, the son of Joash, king of Judah, began to reign. He was twenty-five years old when he began to reign. He reigned 29 years in Jerusalem. His mother name was Jehoaddin of Jerusalem. And he did what was right in the eyes of the Lord, yet not like David his father. He did all the things as Joash his father had done, but the high places were not removed. The people still sacrificed and made offerings on the high places. And as soon as the royal power was firmly in his hand, he struck down his servants who had struck down the king, his father. Little note, one of the reasons he got struck down, it's inferred, is he kind of compromised.

SPEAKER_01 2:33

He sold out and gave some of the treasury from the temple to, I believe, the king of Syria, King of Aram, depending on which translation you're same place.

SPEAKER_00 2:50

So he gets that taken care of. But he did not put to death the children of the murderers according to what is written in the book of the law of Moses, where the Lord commanded, fathers should not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers, but each one shall die for his own sin. He struck down ten thousand Edomites in the valley of Salt, and took Salah by storm, and called it Joctil, which is its name to this day.

SPEAKER_01 3:22

Then Amaziah, so dude serving the Lord, he ain't perfect, just like most of the people that lead aren't perfect. He's having success. He's observant of the law, very mindful of what the law says.

SPEAKER_00 3:42

Verse 8. Here

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SPEAKER_00 3:44

we go. Then Amaziah sent messengers to Jehoash, the son of Jehoahaz, son of Jehu, king of Israel, saying, Come, let us look one another in the face. And Jehoash, King of Israel, sent word to Amaziah, king of Judah, a thistle on Lebanon sent to a cedar on Lebanon, saying, Give your daughter to my son for a wife, and a wild beast of Lebanon passed by and trampled down the thistle. You have indeed struck down Edom, and your heart has lifted you up. Be content with your glory and stay at home, for why you should you provoke trouble so that you fall, you and Judah with you. Jehoash, King of Israel, is not a good king. Just so you know, not a righteous king. It that that the kingdom of Jehu is already devolved, you know, through two generations. Nevertheless, so you know, in in the great equality of spirituality and morality, then you know, Amaziah should be the victor here. Verse 11. But Amaziah would not listen, so Jehoash, king of Israel, went up, and he and Amaziah king of Judah faced one another at the battle of Beshemesh, which belongs to Judah. And Judah was defeated by Israel, and every man fled to his home, and Jehoash, king of Israel, captured Amaziah, king of Judah, the son of Jehoash, son of Ahaziah at Beshemesh. So he's been taken hostage, and came to Jerusalem, but broke down the wall of Jerusalem for four hundred cubits, from the Ephraim gate to the corner gate, and he seized all the gold and silver and the vessels that were found in the house of the Lord and in the treasuries of the king's house also hostages, and he returned to Samaria. Now the rest of the acts of Jehoash and all he did in his might, and how he fought with Amaziah, king of Judah, not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Israel. And Jehoash slept with his fathers and was buried in Samaria with the kings of Israel, and Jeroboam his son reigned in his place. Amaziah, son of Joash, king of Judah, lived fifteen years after the death of Jehoash, son of Jehoaz, king of Israel.

SPEAKER_01 6:00

So he basically got his butt kicked.

SPEAKER_00 6:06

And uh basically what happens is he has a conspiracy against him, and uh for doing this stupid thing, uh they chase after him to Lashish and put him to death there. And then they bury him in the city of David. That's how that's how that ends.

When “God’s On Our Side” Fails

SPEAKER_01 6:26

So you think you're righteous? What this reminds me of is so I had like one year.

SPEAKER_00 6:36

This idea of, hey, I'm a good person. I'm doing the right thing. God's on my side. Uh-huh. It reminds me of the one year I went to Catholic school. We had this mentality of, oh, we're going to say our prayers, and God's going to help us in this basketball game. And we got our rear ends kicked by everybody, man. St. Joe's is like the worst basketball team around. They got there, and it don't we remember? They had like two or three good athletes come out of there, but never had enough for good teams. Too small of a school. And but but they had this idea that was put forth. The nuns kind of put it forth, the priest put it forth, and is pretty much, you know, just blowing blowing smoke up everybody's rear. Now they did encourage good sportsmanship and all that. Okay, yeah, I get that. That that was a good thing. But yeah, you know, we're gonna do great because because we're righteous people and we're good Catholics, and we're gonna do this, and you lose about 20 points in junior high. I mean, that's that's something. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 7:41

There's there's a lot of that though. Oh man. There's a lot of that. Oh, well, um you or we uh we're Christians, we're doing the right thing. Uh, God's gonna reward that for us. Uh he's gonna He's gonna do this for us, well, yada yada. And um I think that mentality uh sets us up for failure and is why a lot of Christians are looking at each other going Wait a minute, why why does our life suck right now? Why is everything why is everything so hard? Why is why is everything not working out like we planned? Uh like we planned. Um why is all this stuff happening? Well, it's because you were you were taught wrong. You know, yeah. Wrong belief. Um, you know, you you were taught that if you're a good Christian and you obeyed God's word and you did all these things, then he was obligated to somehow make sure all your stuff turns out great. But he's not.

SPEAKER_00 8:48

And this is flooded all throughout history. You can see it happen in the church, you can see it happen in the work. At our work, I remember there was a guy who can't even remember his last name. First name was Bo. And he was worthless to work with. Well, did you blah blah blah blah?

SPEAKER_01 9:08

Because I'm a good Christian. I'm I remember him. Yeah, and self-righteous and worthless. Yeah, and um slept all night.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

Yeah, yeah. Well, while everybody else is pulling the load, and you want to talk about how good a Christian you are, and you got fired because some dude did something stupid, and you weren't where you were supposed to be on your job because you were sleeping because you were good Christians, and you got fired. Yeah, yeah. And and I really shed a tear over that. No, we we have this idea, nobody's bothering. The the thing in this story, nobody's bothering to inquire of the Lord. We're just assuming this on our own righteousness.

SPEAKER_03 9:51

Yeah, and unfortunately, this is what is being taught. I hate to say new age church, but but this is what is being taught in some of the millennial Christianity uh right now. Um Yeah, even some of the older Christianity too. I mean, it's just being taught in a lot of places. I'll I'll say that. It's being taught in a lot of places that if if you're if you're good, um, and you you say your prayers every night and and you say

Cherry-Picked Promises And False Faith

SPEAKER_03 10:20

grace before you eat, and you do all these things, then you know, then you know uh everything everything works out. And there's there's scriptures to back it up too. We can cherry pick our scriptures to back it up.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

Oh, cherry-picking's exactly what it is.

SPEAKER_03 10:38

Um you gotta you you gotta let the Lord define good, not you.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

Um and and also you gotta look at the context of everything that he's saying. He's talking about hardships and everything else in that whole context.

SPEAKER_03 10:54

Exactly, exactly. So yeah, that does cause some um some self-righteousness. Uh, and I think what's really what's what makes that so much different than some other places we might see self-righteousness is that this type of self-righteousness is hard to see. Really, really hard to see because we think we're doing the right thing. Well, we are doing the right thing. We're being good. We're we're you know, we're uh we're we're obeying the Lord, we're doing all these things, but we have, I guess, our motives. I guess that's probably a good way to put it. The motive is probably not right.

SPEAKER_00 11:33

Well, I I can tell you where I've seen this a lot is word of faith movement.

SPEAKER_03 11:38

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:39

But big time. Now, the thing is, for it to be faith, there has to be a word, you know, a word of faith. One thing I'll give a word of faith, probably better than any other group in modern Christianity, they know their Bible.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

They're going to pick out every promise that God has. However, that being said, Amaziah does not inquire of the Lord.

SPEAKER_00 12:11

He's just going off previous victories, and you know, they praise God for the victories and his own righteousness. David was a man after God's own heart, but it's rare that he does battles without inquiring of the Lord. So for it to be a word of faith, you have to have the word, and not just a general word. The word of faith, the word of faith movement was like, well, you have this promise in the word, and you have this promise in the word, you have this promise in the word. Uh they know the word, they're not that great at putting the word in context uh for a lot of things. So, like you said, cherry pick. However, this is where having the relationship saves you from doing a bunch of dumb stuff.

SPEAKER_03 12:57

Yeah. The name it and claim it, folks. Um I was just reminded of Hebrews. I think it's Hebrews chapter 11, the hall of faith, or hall of fame of faith. Um, because the word goes on to talk about and lists all of these great heroes of the faith. But the word also goes on and says that all of these having a promise and never seeing that promise come to fulfillment. Well, that's the key. They had the promise. Yes. Um, they had the promise from the from the very beginning. Uh well, if you don't have a promise, or in some circles you might say, if you don't have the word, if you don't have a word from the Lord, then you don't you don't have anything to stand on. Um your your scripture, the scripture that you pick out of out of any particular passage is is empty and void. Uh it it doesn't uh it doesn't mean anything to you if there's not a promise behind it. Cherry picking, it gets you in trouble every single time. Yeah. And we do. We it we we sure do. It's so easy to do. Um a lot of times because we man, we just want something so bad, you know. It is what it is.

SPEAKER_00 14:15

Paul talked about rightly dividing the word of truth. And the the key thing is with relationship, when you are willing to listen and hear from the Holy Spirit, he will rightly divide the word of truth for you. He will walk you through how to apply it. One of the things that you're, you know, that that happens with this modern culture that we have, is we want to claim the blessing of God, we want to claim the favor of God, we want to claim that God's on our side, you know, like you said, because we say grace, because you know, we lift our hands during the worship service, and you know, we listen to the good Christian music. And very rarely in these services, that they'll talk about the blessing of God, the favor of God, and the character and the process that it takes to build the character to be able to handle the success and the blessings that it doesn't get talked about, and quite often um I heard a guy say this one time ago, 100% right. And he said, good good indicator that if somebody gives you a prophetic word from the Lord, if it's accurate or if you receive a promise from God, he said, if it immediately looks like the exact opposite starts happening as soon as you get it or as soon as you hear it and write it down, good indicator it was. Right. Because now it has to be undone so the Lord can do it his way.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

And and and we don't talk about the process.

SPEAKER_00 16:06

So yeah, it Amaziah just I'm a good person, I'm doing the right thing. That means I can do this and this and this and this and this. You know, like I said, word of faith, you gotta have the word and not just the Bible. You gotta have a word from the Holy Spirit to know what to do and when to do it, how to do it.

SPEAKER_01 16:31

Right.

SPEAKER_02 16:34

Right.

SPEAKER_03 16:35

Yeah, the the ego man, the ego is is so easy, so easily pops up and puffs up. And and I think the ego is very good at disguising himself too. Um and making you think that uh that's not really your ego talking. That's uh that's your confidence in the Lord talking. That's uh, you know, let us boast in the Lord, you know, and be confident in the Lord. Let you know, let us rejoice in all these things. Now that's your sometimes that's your ego just trying to get you to write a check that your you know your your faith can't cash because it never had a promise to begin with. Um I was just trying to look up where Paul talks about how

Contentment Learned In The Valley

SPEAKER_03 17:20

he found himself, he he he learned how to find contentment in all things.

SPEAKER_00 17:25

Yeah, yeah. I've learned to be abased, I've learned to abound, I've learned in all things how to be content.

SPEAKER_03 17:32

How to be content. When he was writing that, and see, this is where this is where we I think we struggle. Um when he wrote that, he was not writing that from a position of of glory, uh, from a position of of uh richness and abundance. Uh he was right he was writing that from a from a position of lowliness, from a position of of uh abasement, you know, from from prison.

SPEAKER_00 18:02

Yeah, significant numbers of his stuff is written in prison.

SPEAKER_03 18:05

Yes, yes. He's not he didn't write that after a after a victory, you know, where he's high up on the mountain, you know, and everything. He's he's writing that deep down in the dungeons. Um we have a tendency in our day and age to um to think that uh um that's the mountaintops is where we're gonna find uh you know our our happiness, and that's where all that's we're gonna find all of our all of our uh lessons and everything. But it's just the opposite. It's just the opposite. It's it's those times where um you know we're down, we're down in the gutter, we're down on our luck, we're down in every aspect. Those are the places where where we learn our lessons, those are where we find uh that we have to learn how to be content uh and all those things.

SPEAKER_00 18:59

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me.

SPEAKER_03 19:08

Yeah, and that makes me the baddest son of bitch in the valley.

SPEAKER_00 19:14

Well, here's the thing: the the valley is where you become aware. Yeah, it is. And and guess what? If you don't become aware that he's with you, you will die in the valley.

SPEAKER_03 19:27

Yeah, you'll you'll keep uh you'll keep rehashing that that that lesson. Um I remember it just popped in my head. I remember years ago and uh got my first my first dog as an adult. Got a little black black labor retriever, got him as a puppy and everything, and went to uh to um to some like some basic uh dog training. And I still remember the the lady that taught the class, wonderful person. But anyway, um whenever whenever you were teaching a command, uh you gave praise when the when your dog uh you know did the right thing. If your dog broke command or did not do the right thing, you gave the correction and walked that dog in a circle back around behind you and come back to the starting point. And then you gave the command again. And you did that until the dog got it. And that's I I find the Lord doing that a lot of times um in our lessons. You'll uh he'll teach the lesson, he'll put you in that circumstance, and if you get it, hey, great, we're gonna move on to the next thing. But if you don't get it, well, he's gonna walk you back around, put you at the starting point again, and we're gonna go through it again until you get it. Um, and it's it's it's always painful. Yeah. Always. It's never fun. But he does it because he loves us.

SPEAKER_00 21:02

One of the things I found interesting in interacting

Doctrine Without Discernment Today

SPEAKER_00 21:06

with the various groups of Christians, uh, and for some reason the Lord has seen fit to bring me across the paths of many ordained ministers that I get to interact with, pastors, some some bigger title holders, doctors, doctors theology, doctors, all this stuff. One of the interesting things that I have found is that the doctrine, we we we can, you know, because Lord knows I love to to knock it. Um and and really to me it doesn't matter how good your doctrine is if you're not applying basic Christianity. Right. Um but one of the things that is really interesting me, and and it might be a little bit of hubris in in my gifting. If we're going to be just blunt and honest, it could very well be hubris in my gifting. I don't think that's exclusively it. However, one of the things that has just continued to uh it's it's it's like our favorite uh fairy tale bones. The the emperor's new clothes.

SPEAKER_01 22:37

For those of you that are unaware, uh, the emperor's new clothes, there's the emperor, there's two con men that come up with this scheme.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

They're tailors. Except they're not. They're they're posing as tailors, and basically what they do is they scam the emperor and they said, if you want to see who in your court is truly wise, we have this magical fabric, and we're gonna make you the most awesome garments, but only wise people can see it. The the fool cannot see these garments, and so basically they sell them top-notch. Oh, how beautiful these garments are. Oh, look, look, old emperor, how majestic you are. The emperor can't see anything, but he doesn't want to admit that he's a fool. Right. All his staff members, all the members of his court, all his lords and ladies, all his advisors, they can't see him either because they're, you know, like I said, it's a big old scam. Oh, yes, mighty emperor, how great, how lovely. These are just magnificent. I have never seen such thing. And he was so proud of his new clothes and the fact that he didn't have a dumb person. He did he had no fools in his court. He decides to go on a parade throughout the city. And as he's going and marching in the procession, leading the procession, the you have a couple kids start laughing to go, the the emperor has on no clothes. He's naked. He's naked, and all the whole crowd just starts laughing. The common people see it. So, one of the things in interacting with all these people that are highly educated, I'm pastored this, and I'm doctored this, and I'm an instructor in this institute of theology. How is it that you can have your doctrine so solid and yet you don't the the inability to discern what God is doing now? And C Dub and Bones do not have a 100% we know it all of what God's doing now. But there's a general vibe you can pick up on if you're praying. If you're listening, we know in part, we prophesy in part. So we're not going to say we have it, but the the thing that has floored me ever since the Lord's really called us back up is the inability of people that are supposed to be in ministry leadership to detect what in the heck the Lord is doing. And you see it bite them in the rear end all the time, all the time, to where they're creating these stupid, just utterly stupid jumping through hoops, theological arguments about how God can't do this and God couldn't do this, and that truly couldn't be God. Have you stopped to ask him what he's doing? Have you stopped to have a little bit of humility to consider that maybe your ideas and your training do not provide the background to be able to properly educate you on what God is doing now?

SPEAKER_03 26:18

That goes against that goes against all of their teaching and training. Um because the teaching and the training in in the seminaries and and in the um in the denominational churches, what we're taught is um if you if you think you hear it from the Lord, go ask somebody, go run it by somebody and and compare it against, you know, compare notes and and all these things. And uh and then not only compare notes with each other, then compare notes to early church fathers and and all these things. And basically what it what that does, and it's and it's not bad, it's not a wrong thing to bounce something off of your off your partner in accountability.

SPEAKER_00 27:12

It's not a bad check and balance, but it's not the primary thing you should be doing.

SPEAKER_03 27:16

It's not right. It's it's not the Holy Spirit. Uh that's that's not the Holy Spirit. If you want to bounce it off somebody, bounce it off the Holy Spirit. Um, but anyway, um because of that train of thought, um, and because we're taught to do that, we'll never get out of and we'll never break away from um tradition. We'll always get sucked right back into well, God can't be doing that because uh you know then we'll start quoting uh all these other all these other people instead of scripture. Next thing you know, we're deciding our our doctrine and theology based off of um this particular early church father or this particular church father, that that church father. And it comes down to we simply can't get away from tradition because we won't we won't ask God, are we doing something? What are we doing here? And is this different than what we did two, three hundred years ago?

SPEAKER_00 28:15

Charles Spurgeon has some amazing quotes. He does, but he ain't there's been a lot happen since Charles Spurgeon was ministering.

SPEAKER_03 28:23

Yeah, he's got some very inspirational. I love Charles Spurgeon, love A.W. Tozer, love D.O. Moody, love all of them, but ain't none of them the Holy Ghost.

SPEAKER_00 28:33

Amen. And if you wrongfully apply, I I love me some E. W. Kenyon.

SPEAKER_03 28:38

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:39

Yeah, just great teacher. However, if you try and apply everything there without having a knowledge of what the Holy Spirit is doing now, what the plan of God is right now, and what he's doing, you're going to be kicking against the pricks.

History’s Hubris And Modern Parallels

SPEAKER_00 28:55

Saul of Tarsus was a guy who had everything theologically right in his own eyes, and ends up resisting the very thing that God is doing. Give you another little hubris example. There was a guy that the first crusade was not ordained by the Pope.

SPEAKER_01 29:22

The first official crusade was. But the first crusade, there's a guy named Peter the Hermit. The Muslims have invaded the Holy Land.

SPEAKER_00 29:39

And it's the same thing as Amaziah. Well, God's on our side, and we're righteous, and we're good holy people, and there's no way that we could. He gets a group of peasants that he didn't gather together nobility. A lot of the way the crusades were ran, where they use nobility and they use landowners, and they used, you know, knights. Uh, that was lessons learned from Peter the Hermit. Because guess what? Well, first thing they did when they went down on the way down to get there, oh, here's some villages of Jews, let's go and pillage them.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

Yes, the church has an anti-Semitism problem. Still. A lot of them. Also, there are some that don't use critical thinking, too.

SPEAKER_00 30:36

They want to be hyper-Jewish and bring everything back under the law when we're under grace.

SPEAKER_01 30:44

You got that thing too. But I'm just saying, Peter the Hermit and this crew, they do these things. And guess what happens to Peter the hermit?

SPEAKER_00 30:56

I don't even think they make it all the way down there. They're not properly supplied. The logistical problems are enormous and famine and dysentery and all this. It just wipes them out. It was ill-conceived. I just heard, you know, God wants us to do this. Well, did you really hear?

SPEAKER_03 31:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:18

You know, and so we have history in Christian history is rife with people that that probably love the Lord and are zealous for the Lord, and just have some wrong ideas because they haven't really heard and inquired of the Lord. And and this trust in our theology is, and this trust in our doctrine is the right doctrine. It's hubris, it's uh it's pride and ego, it's self-righteousness, and it is not the righteousness of God, and it will hem you up every doggone time.

SPEAKER_03 31:58

It's the same mentality that has Americans thinking that that we're not gonna get our butt kicked anywhere because well, we're a Christian nation. Yes. And and that that train of thought is out there. Um we're we're we're a Christian nation. God's on our side, you know, we're gonna we're gonna be victorious, we're gonna do this. Well, you got you got some of that stuff right. Um, but you know, um good initiative with bad judgment is still well still bad.

SPEAKER_02 32:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:36

Uh that that's kind of what Peter the Hermit uh was exercising. Hey, good initiative, just bad judgment. Um but and the ego the ego can can make you jump out and do stuff it it's an uh undue timely in an undue timely manner for sure.

SPEAKER_00 32:55

Yeah. It it's you know, when we go looking for weapons of mass destruction that weren't there over 20 years ago, they were using Bible verses to do it.

SPEAKER_02 33:08

Oh yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:12

Cost us a lot of lives, cost a lot of people their their their mental well-being, physical well-being. When you get into things like that, all too often we fail to ask, what's the Lord doing?

SPEAKER_00 33:30

Because sometimes it ain't even what we're doing. Uh, it isn't about his plan

9-11 Patriotism Versus Repentance

SPEAKER_00 33:35

for sometimes his plan can be bigger than you, he has a plan for you, but but we failed to discern like on a world scale what God's doing, what the timing is. Right. Um, what what time are we in? And and you can have a relationship with the Lord, and if you're not asking, and if you're not praying and paying attention and sitting down and listening to what he's telling you, you you're gonna buck every time. You oh and everybody was jumping on the bandwagon. You know, we we've said this before. One of the biggest things about 9-11, September 11th happens, that Sunday. One of the greatest, the the only thing modern times that we could compare that to for your younger generation is the amount of people that went to church after Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

The churches were that full, if not more. Uh, the Sunday after 9-11.

SPEAKER_03 34:40

Yeah. But we we got patriotic.

SPEAKER_00 34:43

We we did not repent. Didn't repent. Yeah. Patriotic and God's blessing America. And they're and nobody said, you know, we've had a hedge of protection around us. Is it possible it might have been removed due to sin?

unknown 35:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:00

That's a hard question.

unknown 35:02

You know?

SPEAKER_03 35:03

Yeah, it is. It's a very hard question. Um, because then we have to start asking, uh, well, what's what sin? What sin are we talking about? Uh, then we have to start, because if we're going to acknowledge that there's sin and we have to identify that sin, and then we have to, you know, could we possibly be talking about uh you know abortion? Could we c possibly be talking about um you know any myriad uh of things uh that that we allow um in the name of choice in our country?

SPEAKER_00 35:34

The the promiscuity could we be talking about um the removing of God from the public square and public discourse when that that was never the intent?

unknown 35:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:48

Yeah, the all of it in in the interest of um putting putting the rights of man first. Yeah. Well we we have we have rights. I got I've got a right to do that, I've got a right to say this, I've got a right to do this, and all that where did those rights come from? You're forgetting about the giver and grantor of those rights. Um anyway.

SPEAKER_01 36:14

Little movie quote little Jeff Goblum in Jurassic Park.

SPEAKER_00 36:21

We were so busy asking ourselves if we could, we never bothered to ask if we should. Right.

SPEAKER_03 36:29

Exactly. Exactly. Um, ego, like I said, there sometimes ego is just out there and and you can you can see it. A lot of times it's a whole lot easier to see it in somebody else than it is in your own self. Um, but ego can can uh camouflage itself very easy uh a lot of times too. Uh it can hide itself and disguise itself as uh as intelligence and uh and and those things. And when it does that, it can be very hard to see ego as being a

Final Challenge And Where To Listen

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problem.

SPEAKER_00 37:02

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