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was"},{"speaker":"[Unknown10]","startTime":5091.582,"endTime":5092.582,"body":"way in"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5091.942,"endTime":5096.262,"body":"just gonna add that like i just love being the guinea pig myself right i mean i"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5096.342,"endTime":5099.382,"body":"will see cause like there's a lot of times where like something looks great on"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5099.462,"endTime":5102.502,"body":"paper and then you run it and you're like oh yeah that's not gonna work that's not"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5102.502,"endTime":5105.622,"body":"gonna work at all so i personally just love doing that"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5106.822,"endTime":5110.422,"body":"myself but yeah i mean just everything you guys said the w well the one thing i"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5110.422,"endTime":5113.142,"body":"did want to add uh that i think could be a very"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5114.342,"endTime":5118.742,"body":"smooth introduction to the partials is on lateral del type stuff that is a great"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5118.902,"endTime":5122.982,"body":"movement it's really it's really really hard to kind of dick that one up i think"},{"speaker":"[Unknown8]","startTime":5119.08,"endTime":5120.2,"body":"yes yeah"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5122.922,"endTime":5123.922,"body":"jordan"},{"speaker":"[Unknown8]","startTime":5123.26,"endTime":5124.26,"body":"yep"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5123.782,"endTime":5125.382,"body":"might be sitting down or in the"},{"speaker":"[Unknown8]","startTime":5125.22,"endTime":5126.22,"body":"yeah so"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5125.462,"endTime":5126.502,"body":"b up nope"},{"speaker":"[Unknown10]","startTime":5125.562,"endTime":5127.482,"body":"now we're good abort mission"},{"speaker":"[Unknown8]","startTime":5127.88,"endTime":5130.28,"body":"jordan hows standing been for the last hour and a half"},{"speaker":"[Unknown10]","startTime":5129.962,"endTime":5133.002,"body":"it's been good i was thinking about was thinking about switching it up but then"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5133.702,"endTime":5134.902,"body":"we call we call you"},{"speaker":"[Unknown10]","startTime":5133.722,"endTime":5136.922,"body":"i just had like a moment where i like hit something and it didn't go down so i'm"},{"speaker":"[Unknown10]","startTime":5136.922,"endTime":5139.002,"body":"just gonna we're gonna deal with it later no worries"},{"speaker":"[Unknown8]","startTime":5140.22,"endTime":5141.22,"body":"nice"},{"speaker":"[Unknown10]","startTime":5140.702,"endTime":5141.702,"body":"yeah"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5140.842,"endTime":5141.842,"body":"gotcha gotcha"},{"speaker":"[Unknown8]","startTime":5141.32,"endTime":5143.72,"body":"uh well i think that's all we got for him right"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5143.802,"endTime":5144.802,"body":"yeah yeah so"},{"speaker":"[Unknown8]","startTime":5143.96,"endTime":5146.36,"body":"striker you want to tell everybody where to find you"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5146.182,"endTime":5150.422,"body":"yeah jordan before we hop off please where can all the listeners find more of you"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5150.742,"endTime":5155.142,"body":"can where can they find both of your group training programs and then you can let"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5155.302,"endTime":5159.782,"body":"us know whether you are booked or not with personal or one on one clients and"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5160.022,"endTime":5162.662,"body":"where they may be able to find a weight list if that is the case"},{"speaker":"[Unknown10]","startTime":5163.242,"endTime":5167.962,"body":"yeah i'm on instagram mostly i will i just repurpose content for tick tock so"},{"speaker":"[Unknown10]","startTime":5168.042,"endTime":5169.642,"body":"don't expect an answer there at all"},{"speaker":"[Unknown10]","startTime":5170.762,"endTime":5174.202,"body":"i'm on instagram for share come come hang out send a dm my website is jodl"},{"speaker":"[Unknown10]","startTime":5174.202,"endTime":5177.882,"body":"fitness com if you want to look for everything i have a podcast titled where"},{"speaker":"[Unknown10]","startTime":5177.962,"endTime":5182.602,"body":"optimal meets practical which does a similar job to what you guys do um i don't"},{"speaker":"[Unknown10]","startTime":5182.602,"endTime":5186.042,"body":"have cool co hosts though so it's not as cool let's say"},{"speaker":"[Unknown10]","startTime":5187.322,"endTime":5190.922,"body":"but yes similar topics and and brian both of you guys have been on the podcast so"},{"speaker":"[Unknown10]","startTime":5190.922,"endTime":5194.122,"body":"if you haven't listened to those come check those out i have links to the group"},{"speaker":"[Unknown10]","startTime":5194.202,"endTime":5197.882,"body":"programming in my bio there's also a podcast that explains what the group program"},{"speaker":"[Unknown10]","startTime":5198.202,"endTime":5201.242,"body":"is about and so if that's your question there's a link to that as well"},{"speaker":"[Unknown10]","startTime":5202.362,"endTime":5204.122,"body":"and that's about it thanks for having me guys"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5203.962,"endTime":5204.962,"body":"awesome"},{"speaker":"[Unknown8]","startTime":5204.62,"endTime":5205.62,"body":"yep"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5204.662,"endTime":5209.382,"body":"awesome awesome as always jordan thank you for coming hanging out having a very in"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5209.542,"endTime":5213.462,"body":"depth quality conversation with brian and i and i'm sure we will do this again at"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5238.572,"endTime":5242.012,"body":"some point in the future so for all the listeners out there guys brian and i will"},{"speaker":"[Unknown9]","startTime":5242.072,"endTime":5243.072,"body":"talk to you next week"}]}