{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":27.125,"endTime":28.956,"body":"Welcome back to Eat, Train, Prosper."},{"startTime":28.956,"endTime":34.778,"body":"You guys may notice that it's not this amazing baritone voice coming at you from Mr."},{"startTime":34.778,"endTime":35.558,"body":"Aaron Straker."},{"startTime":35.558,"endTime":48.562,"body":"It is myself, Brian here to introduce you guys to this week's podcast because our boy,"},{"startTime":35.558,"endTime":48.562,"body":"Aaron, just became an IFBB pro this last week and whatever updates I have to talk about"},{"startTime":48.562,"endTime":53.274,"body":"are significantly less important or cool than what Aaron achieved."},{"startTime":53.274,"endTime":54.05,"body":"So"},{"startTime":54.05,"endTime":56.613,"body":"The very first update must go over to Aaron."},{"startTime":56.613,"endTime":57.894,"body":"Huge congratulations."},{"startTime":57.894,"endTime":59.356,"body":"Newest IFBB 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hypothyroid situation than men and then that can affect things like motility and"},{"startTime":2608.707,"endTime":2610.291,"body":"stuff, but"},{"startTime":2610.291,"endTime":2618.847,"body":"you know, TSH is a little bit higher than we might expect, but we don't see any kind of"},{"startTime":2610.291,"endTime":2618.847,"body":"downstream cascades."},{"startTime":2618.847,"endTime":2622.95,"body":"But we also know that your feeding environment, like food's been super high."},{"startTime":2622.99,"endTime":2630.616,"body":"If we've been constraining food or like in a prolonged caloric deficit, it's very, very"},{"startTime":2622.99,"endTime":2630.616,"body":"common to see down-regulated thyroid numbers."},{"startTime":2630.616,"endTime":2634.238,"body":"But again, in your current context, you've been eating a lot of food."},{"startTime":2634.304,"endTime":2640.517,"body":"We're still pretty freaking lean and downstream free T3 is still out of 3.0."},{"startTime":2640.517,"endTime":2649.198,"body":"So even though everything's not perfect, I don't see it being any have any practical"},{"startTime":2640.517,"endTime":2649.198,"body":"detriment in real world application."},{"startTime":2649.198,"endTime":2650.378,"body":"Cool, appreciate it."},{"startTime":2650.378,"endTime":2652.498,"body":"Let's move on to the next page."},{"startTime":2652.938,"endTime":2654.958,"body":"Here we have hormone panel."},{"startTime":2654.958,"endTime":2662.858,"body":"This is where things get a little wonky for me because you'll notice the estradiol number"},{"startTime":2654.958,"endTime":2662.858,"body":"at the top says under 10."},{"startTime":2662.858,"endTime":2667.278,"body":"So I don't even know that could be two or four or eight."},{"startTime":2667.658,"endTime":2669.018,"body":"All it says is under 10."},{"startTime":2669.018,"endTime":2671.158,"body":"My last time it was 30."},{"startTime":2671.758,"endTime":2676.638,"body":"So I went 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now gonna try to cut back on."},{"startTime":3524.18,"endTime":3532.637,"body":"And in three months or so, we'll go back in and do another set of blood labs and see if"},{"startTime":3524.18,"endTime":3532.637,"body":"that uric acid, the glucose, the HbA1c and any of those other things kind of come back"},{"startTime":3532.637,"endTime":3533.117,"body":"around."},{"startTime":3533.117,"endTime":3534.718,"body":"Um, and that's really all I got."},{"startTime":3535.318,"endTime":3536.298,"body":"Cool, sounds good."},{"startTime":3536.298,"endTime":3536.97,"body":"All right, B."},{"startTime":3536.97,"endTime":3540.638,"body":"right, I'm gonna bounce and Aaron will finish you guys up."},{"startTime":3541.238,"endTime":3542.199,"body":"That's good."},{"startTime":3542.582,"endTime":3543.936,"body":"All right, here we go."},{"startTime":3543.936,"endTime":3545.82,"body":"So let's fire up."},{"startTime":3547.478,"endTime":3548.938,"body":"my 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insulin"},{"startTime":4267.712,"endTime":4274.306,"body":"sensitivity."},{"startTime":4274.306,"endTime":4277.138,"body":"um those are my labs."},{"startTime":4277.138,"endTime":4285.802,"body":"What I think will be cool if we do a follow up post-Aaron's competitive season lab work"},{"startTime":4277.138,"endTime":4285.802,"body":"where I can maybe capture things where they look a little bit"},{"startTime":4285.802,"endTime":4292.225,"body":"worse because of the use of Orals heading into my uh pro debut."},{"startTime":4292.826,"endTime":4297.589,"body":"And then we'll maybe get things that look a little bit, I would say more appropriate."},{"startTime":4297.589,"endTime":4305.533,"body":"I would say based off of these labs, any deviations in terms of my lab work is rather"},{"startTime":4297.589,"endTime":4305.533,"body":"mild."},{"startTime":4305.733,"endTime":4314.918,"body":"And the potential concern there is it gives you a false sense of I'm healthy, things are"},{"startTime":4305.733,"endTime":4314.918,"body":"good, but"},{"startTime":4315.05,"endTime":4317.621,"body":"that is not something that I would want to develop, right?"},{"startTime":4317.621,"endTime":4323.592,"body":"I want to keep my very kind of concerned edge of using PEDs."},{"startTime":4323.592,"endTime":4335.396,"body":"um And I would prefer that lab work did not come back so well so that I get that very real"},{"startTime":4323.592,"endTime":4335.396,"body":"representation of, hey, things don't look good."},{"startTime":4335.396,"endTime":4343.558,"body":"You need to prioritize your health and get off of some of these things so that things can"},{"startTime":4335.396,"endTime":4343.558,"body":"come down and then put in protocols to improve some of these markers."},{"startTime":4343.902,"endTime":4348.776,"body":"I was quite surprised at how mild a lot of these deviations were."},{"startTime":4348.776,"endTime":4362.958,"body":"But like I said, things will probably not be as favorable after the second contest because"},{"startTime":4348.776,"endTime":4362.958,"body":"total duration will obviously be longer, as will be some harsher um usage for those orals"},{"startTime":4362.958,"endTime":4364.659,"body":"on the liver."},{"startTime":4364.98,"endTime":4369.193,"body":"So hopefully this was an informative episode for you guys."},{"startTime":4369.193,"endTime":4372.658,"body":"always, Brian and I try and be very, very transparent."},{"startTime":4372.658,"endTime":4376.842,"body":"and informative and educational about everything."},{"startTime":4376.842,"endTime":4385.89,"body":"Hopefully I did a decent job explaining um my experience with earning my pro card."},{"startTime":4385.89,"endTime":4389.773,"body":"Thank you to all the listeners who sent me very, kind messages."},{"startTime":4389.773,"endTime":4391.974,"body":"It was incredibly overwhelming."},{"startTime":4392.015,"endTime":4398.321,"body":"And I have to share that it felt really nice to feel like a winner for it for a weekend."},{"startTime":4398.321,"endTime":4400.552,"body":"And it felt."},{"startTime":4401.128,"endTime":4409.725,"body":"wonderful to have all of that hard work result in a uh tangible positive outcome."},{"startTime":4409.725,"endTime":4412.062,"body":"And you can see my pro card right here."},{"startTime":4412.062,"endTime":4416.744,"body":"I have not unpacked it from when I had to check it and let you know in full transparency."},{"startTime":4416.744,"endTime":4420.073,"body":"I'm probably going to leave it all wrapped up before I ship it back to the U.S."},{"startTime":4420.073,"endTime":4420.613,"body":"anyway."},{"startTime":4420.613,"endTime":4423.555,"body":"um But again, thank you to all."},{"startTime":4423.555,"endTime":4425.857,"body":"Thank you guys for listening."},{"startTime":4425.857,"endTime":4428.979,"body":"And Brian and I will talk to you next week."}]}