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Elder Rasband noted,"},{"startTime":586.04,"endTime":590.48,"body":"What may appear to be a random chance is"},{"startTime":586.04,"endTime":590.48,"body":"in fact overseen by a loving father in"},{"startTime":590.56,"endTime":593.76,"body":"heaven. The Lord is in the"},{"startTime":590.56,"endTime":593.76,"body":"small details of our lives."},{"startTime":594.24,"endTime":597.48,"body":"We might not always recognize the"},{"startTime":594.24,"endTime":597.48,"body":"Lord's influence in these small details,"},{"startTime":597.72,"endTime":601.48,"body":"but we learn from Esther's experience"},{"startTime":597.72,"endTime":601.48,"body":"that he can guide our path and prepare us"},{"startTime":601.8,"endTime":605.96,"body":"for such a time when we can be"},{"startTime":601.8,"endTime":605.96,"body":"instruments in his hands to fulfill his"},{"startTime":606.12,"endTime":610.04,"body":"purposes.\" Beautiful. All right,"},{"startTime":606.12,"endTime":610.04,"body":"Barb, you have a lot prepared."},{"startTime":610.08,"endTime":612.28,"body":"You're excited about it."},{"startTime":610.08,"endTime":612.28,"body":"Where do you want to start?"},{"startTime":613.6,"endTime":617.48,"body":"I want to start right where you just"},{"startTime":613.6,"endTime":617.48,"body":"started. God is making himself known."},{"startTime":617.56,"endTime":618.84,"body":"The question is, are we seeing it?"},{"startTime":619.0,"endTime":622.16,"body":"Are we observing and noticing"},{"startTime":619.0,"endTime":622.16,"body":"the majesty of the moment?"},{"startTime":622.48,"endTime":625.36,"body":"And I think that the book of"},{"startTime":622.48,"endTime":625.36,"body":"Esther is really bringing us there."},{"startTime":626.12,"endTime":628.6,"body":"I'll just share a quick story. This"},{"startTime":626.12,"endTime":628.6,"body":"happened just this morning to me."},{"startTime":628.64,"endTime":630.8,"body":"I'm just going to tie this in"},{"startTime":628.64,"endTime":630.8,"body":"just because it's on my mind."},{"startTime":631.16,"endTime":635.08,"body":"A majesty of the moment moment. I have"},{"startTime":631.16,"endTime":635.08,"body":"a nephew who I was just speaking with,"},{"startTime":635.12,"endTime":639.0,"body":"and he's given me permission"},{"startTime":635.12,"endTime":639.0,"body":"to share this. He is so tender."},{"startTime":639.08,"endTime":642.36,"body":"I just love this young man so much. He's"},{"startTime":639.08,"endTime":642.36,"body":"been serving a mission in Sierra Leone."},{"startTime":642.64,"endTime":646.56,"body":"He's coming home a little bit earlier"},{"startTime":642.64,"endTime":646.56,"body":"than he had planned. He loves his mission."},{"startTime":646.6,"endTime":648.84,"body":"He loves serving. He loves the"},{"startTime":646.6,"endTime":648.84,"body":"people. He loves everything."},{"startTime":649.08,"endTime":652.8,"body":"He's coming home to make some"},{"startTime":649.08,"endTime":652.8,"body":"important decisions in his life."},{"startTime":653.44,"endTime":656.44,"body":"As I was talking to him, the"},{"startTime":653.44,"endTime":656.44,"body":"Spirit confirmed to me so strongly,"},{"startTime":656.88,"endTime":659.48,"body":"be pleased with him and happy for him."},{"startTime":656.88,"endTime":659.48,"body":"This is, in this case,"},{"startTime":659.56,"endTime":662.92,"body":"the right thing to do. That's up to"},{"startTime":659.56,"endTime":662.92,"body":"him. I just felt that. But on the phone,"},{"startTime":664.2,"endTime":667.36,"body":"he had said to me that he didn't"},{"startTime":664.2,"endTime":667.36,"body":"know what his travel plans were,"},{"startTime":667.76,"endTime":670.92,"body":"but he's probably going to be"},{"startTime":667.76,"endTime":670.92,"body":"coming home this week. And I said,"},{"startTime":671.52,"endTime":673.88,"body":"I really wish I could be there,"},{"startTime":671.52,"endTime":673.88,"body":"but we're actually leaving."},{"startTime":674.0,"endTime":675.64,"body":"We're flying out to Europe this week."},{"startTime":675.84,"endTime":678.8,"body":"I'm so sad that I won't be able to meet"},{"startTime":675.84,"endTime":678.8,"body":"you at the airport to throw my arms"},{"startTime":678.8,"endTime":680.8,"body":"around you and tell you how"},{"startTime":678.8,"endTime":680.8,"body":"much I love you, et cetera,"},{"startTime":680.88,"endTime":684.76,"body":"because it's going to be hard to come"},{"startTime":680.88,"endTime":684.76,"body":"home. As I said that, we said, yeah,"},{"startTime":684.88,"endTime":686.8,"body":"that would be great. And I"},{"startTime":684.88,"endTime":686.8,"body":"wish we could see each other,"},{"startTime":686.88,"endTime":689.52,"body":"but we understand I'll be home in a"},{"startTime":686.88,"endTime":689.52,"body":"week and a half. Long story short,"},{"startTime":690.16,"endTime":692.88,"body":"he received his travel plans to come home."},{"startTime":693.0,"endTime":696.8,"body":"He's coming from Sierra Leone."},{"startTime":693.0,"endTime":696.8,"body":"He told me about his travel plans before."},{"startTime":697.12,"endTime":700.44,"body":"He sent me the travel plans. I looked"},{"startTime":697.12,"endTime":700.44,"body":"at the travel plans and I just thought,"},{"startTime":700.48,"endTime":703.44,"body":"wow, that's so interesting."},{"startTime":700.48,"endTime":703.44,"body":"You're going through Amsterdam."},{"startTime":703.48,"endTime":705.56,"body":"And I looked at my flight plans,"},{"startTime":706.16,"endTime":709.04,"body":"and I saw that we were also"},{"startTime":706.16,"endTime":709.04,"body":"going through Amsterdam."},{"startTime":709.24,"endTime":712.56,"body":"Then I looked at the time that"},{"startTime":709.24,"endTime":712.56,"body":"he was flying in to Amsterdam."},{"startTime":712.72,"endTime":716.4,"body":"If you can think of all the flights going"},{"startTime":712.72,"endTime":716.4,"body":"out throughout the entire world on all"},{"startTime":716.48,"endTime":719.6,"body":"these different airlines, I"},{"startTime":716.48,"endTime":719.6,"body":"looked at the time he's flying in."},{"startTime":719.68,"endTime":724.68,"body":"He's going to be in Amsterdam at"},{"startTime":719.68,"endTime":724.68,"body":"6:45 AM with a three-hour layover."},{"startTime":725.36,"endTime":728.04,"body":"I hadn't even paid attention to"},{"startTime":725.36,"endTime":728.04,"body":"my own flight plans to this point."},{"startTime":728.16,"endTime":730.08,"body":"I pulled up my flight plans just to see."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":730.84,"endTime":733.6,"body":"50"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":735.2,"endTime":740.0,"body":"for a two and a half hour layover, a"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":735.2,"endTime":740.0,"body":"few gates down from him. Genuinely,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":740.4,"endTime":744.96,"body":"what are the chances of this young"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":740.4,"endTime":744.96,"body":"man that I love dearly and wish"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":745.24,"endTime":749.76,"body":"terribly that I could be at the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":745.24,"endTime":749.76,"body":"airport with? For the Lord to put us"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":750.4,"endTime":752.24,"body":"both. I mean, it was to"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":750.4,"endTime":752.24,"body":"the point where I thought,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":752.24,"endTime":753.56,"body":"maybe I should just cancel my trip."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":753.64,"endTime":756.36,"body":"I'm going out to speak to a number"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":753.64,"endTime":756.36,"body":"of young adult women in Europe."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":756.52,"endTime":759.44,"body":"Maybe I should just cancel this trip"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":756.52,"endTime":759.44,"body":"because being there for my nephew when he"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":759.44,"endTime":762.64,"body":"comes home from his mission is extremely"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":759.44,"endTime":762.64,"body":"important to me that he feels loved and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":762.72,"endTime":766.2,"body":"cared for and we're all behind him."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":762.72,"endTime":766.2,"body":"But instead, the Lord fixed it."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":766.72,"endTime":770.08,"body":"And instead of me canceling my trip"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":766.72,"endTime":770.08,"body":"that I felt I shouldn't cancel,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":770.2,"endTime":775.12,"body":"he made it so my husband and myself"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":770.2,"endTime":775.12,"body":"and my wonderful nephew are all"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":775.28,"endTime":779.04,"body":"going to be at the Amsterdam airport"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":775.28,"endTime":779.04,"body":"for two hours. And as I said to him,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":779.12,"endTime":779.953,"body":"I said, look,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":779.96,"endTime":783.4,"body":"the likelihood of our flights changing"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":779.96,"endTime":783.4,"body":"and something happening and us not being"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":783.44,"endTime":786.72,"body":"able to land at the same time or"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":783.44,"endTime":786.72,"body":"something could be high. I don't know."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":786.96,"endTime":790.64,"body":"We may miss each other. But what is very"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":786.96,"endTime":790.64,"body":"clear is the Lord knows this nephew."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":790.72,"endTime":795.28,"body":"He knows his heart. He cares about him."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":790.72,"endTime":795.28,"body":"He knows him by name, and that matters."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":795.52,"endTime":799.08,"body":"I just share that with the story of Esther"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":795.52,"endTime":799.08,"body":"as you mentioned that you can't make"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":799.12,"endTime":801.32,"body":"this stuff up. God is"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":799.12,"endTime":801.32,"body":"making himself known."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":801.56,"endTime":805.68,"body":"God didn't sign his travel plans and he"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":801.56,"endTime":805.68,"body":"didn't sign my travel plans like love,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":805.92,"endTime":808.88,"body":"Heavenly Father, that wasn't"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":805.92,"endTime":808.88,"body":"on there. You don't need it."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":809.04,"endTime":811.32,"body":"You have the signature."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":809.04,"endTime":811.32,"body":"God has made himself known."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":811.52,"endTime":813.96,"body":"There have been so many"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":811.52,"endTime":813.96,"body":"experiences like that in my life,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":814.04,"endTime":817.56,"body":"and I hope that we recognize that God is"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":814.04,"endTime":817.56,"body":"in the details of the details as we've"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":817.6,"endTime":820.64,"body":"been told. He just makes himself"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":817.6,"endTime":820.64,"body":"known if we were able to watch that."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":821.2,"endTime":824.84,"body":"That's a beautiful story. Elder Bednar,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":825.44,"endTime":827.64,"body":"April 2005. You both know it."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":829.2,"endTime":833.04,"body":"\"Some may count these experiences"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":829.2,"endTime":833.04,"body":"as simply nice coincidences,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":833.88,"endTime":837.44,"body":"but I testify that the tender"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":833.88,"endTime":837.44,"body":"mercies of the Lord are real."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":837.88,"endTime":840.64,"body":"They do not occur randomly"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":837.88,"endTime":840.64,"body":"or merely by coincidence."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":840.88,"endTime":844.0,"body":"Often it is the Lord's"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":840.88,"endTime":844.0,"body":"timing of his tender mercies,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":844.16,"endTime":849.0,"body":"which helps us both discern and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":844.16,"endTime":849.0,"body":"acknowledge them.\" Thanks, Barb."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":849.6,"endTime":851.64,"body":"I just think of President"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":849.6,"endTime":851.64,"body":"Oaks and his wonderful talk."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":851.68,"endTime":853.24,"body":"If you haven't looked at that recently,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":853.28,"endTime":858.08,"body":"his BYU devotional on timing"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":853.28,"endTime":858.08,"body":"is so good. And for those,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":858.24,"endTime":861.32,"body":"especially who may be single or"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":858.24,"endTime":861.32,"body":"wondering about the timing of the Lord,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":862.08,"endTime":864.6,"body":"I love the part because I was single"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":862.08,"endTime":864.6,"body":"when I was listening to this and I"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":865.12,"endTime":866.6,"body":"continued to be for a number of years,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":866.68,"endTime":870.04,"body":"and he shares an experience with"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":866.68,"endTime":870.04,"body":"his wife being single as well."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":870.64,"endTime":872.28,"body":"He talks about timing."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":872.32,"endTime":875.4,"body":"He talks about the importance"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":872.32,"endTime":875.4,"body":"of understanding that"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":875.4,"endTime":878.36,"body":"Lord, as Elder Maxwell says, we"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":875.4,"endTime":878.36,"body":"have faith in the Lord's timing."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":878.92,"endTime":881.72,"body":"We have to be careful to judge other"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":878.92,"endTime":881.72,"body":"people according to our timetable and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":881.88,"endTime":884.16,"body":"understanding our own selves"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":881.88,"endTime":884.16,"body":"according to our timetable."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":884.16,"endTime":887.0,"body":"But if we put our trust in the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":884.16,"endTime":887.0,"body":"Lord. President Oaks says this,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":887.08,"endTime":890.12,"body":"he says the first principle of the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":887.08,"endTime":890.12,"body":"gospel is faith in the Lord Jesus Christ."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":890.32,"endTime":894.4,"body":"Faith means trust. Trust in God's"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":890.32,"endTime":894.4,"body":"will, trust in His way of doing things,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":894.48,"endTime":896.12,"body":"and trust in His timetable."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":896.64,"endTime":900.52,"body":"We should not try to impose our"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":896.64,"endTime":900.52,"body":"timetable on His. And I would add,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":900.6,"endTime":902.8,"body":"we should not try to impose"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":900.6,"endTime":902.8,"body":"our timetable on others."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":903.2,"endTime":905.72,"body":"People may wonder why this"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":903.2,"endTime":905.72,"body":"is happening at this time."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":905.76,"endTime":908.28,"body":"Why was Esther in this"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":905.76,"endTime":908.28,"body":"position at this time?"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":908.32,"endTime":913.2,"body":"Why was Mordecai at this position at this"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":908.32,"endTime":913.2,"body":"time? Why Vashti? Why King Ahasuerus?"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":913.44,"endTime":915.32,"body":"Why are all these things"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":913.44,"endTime":915.32,"body":"happening? I don't know,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":915.4,"endTime":919.08,"body":"but what I do know is that the Lord is"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":915.4,"endTime":919.08,"body":"making himself known through His timing."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":919.64,"endTime":921.8,"body":"Having faith in the Lord is"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":919.64,"endTime":921.8,"body":"having faith in His timing,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":921.84,"endTime":923.32,"body":"and we see that very clearly in this."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":923.64,"endTime":928.04,"body":"I hope that everyone listening recognizes"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":923.64,"endTime":928.04,"body":"that God is in the details of their"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":928.08,"endTime":931.28,"body":"lives, and there is timing for"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":928.08,"endTime":931.28,"body":"everything. Trust in His timing."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":931.36,"endTime":934.16,"body":"Get to know the Savior so that"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":931.36,"endTime":934.16,"body":"you can have trust in His timing."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":934.4,"endTime":938.0,"body":"It's much easier to trust in God's"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":934.4,"endTime":938.0,"body":"timing when you can trust in the Savior."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":938.4,"endTime":940.48,"body":"Know the Savior. Learn to trust Him."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":941.12,"endTime":944.68,"body":"Then place your timing on the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":941.12,"endTime":944.68,"body":"altar so that He can take over."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":944.92,"endTime":946.32,"body":"He can run with you."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":946.96,"endTime":950.8,"body":"Beautiful. Elder Lund called them"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":946.96,"endTime":950.8,"body":"divine signatures. Tender mercies,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":951.04,"endTime":951.88,"body":"divine signatures."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":951.96,"endTime":955.4,"body":"And I'll bet a lot of listeners are out"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":951.96,"endTime":955.4,"body":"there nodding and thinking of a time"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":955.44,"endTime":956.48,"body":"when they saw it too."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":956.92,"endTime":961.16,"body":"Write those down and stack them up and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":956.92,"endTime":961.16,"body":"see how God is involved in our lives and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":961.24,"endTime":964.76,"body":"how he really does, really does"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":961.24,"endTime":964.76,"body":"arrange things for us sometimes,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":964.92,"endTime":965.96,"body":"like this story too."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":967.12,"endTime":970.08,"body":"There's this moment in John"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":967.12,"endTime":970.08,"body":"21 where the Lord says,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":970.12,"endTime":971.6,"body":"\"Throw your net on the other side."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":972.12,"endTime":975.36,"body":"And you will find.\" John"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":972.12,"endTime":975.36,"body":"looks at Peter and says,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":975.8,"endTime":978.96,"body":"\"It's the Lord.\" It's a"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":975.8,"endTime":978.96,"body":"personalized blessing."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":979.24,"endTime":982.0,"body":"Only four of them would recognize"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":979.24,"endTime":982.0,"body":"it. The others would say, \"Wow,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":982.24,"endTime":984.2,"body":"what a miracle.\" But they"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":982.24,"endTime":984.2,"body":"would say, \"No, no, no."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":984.44,"endTime":988.6,"body":"That's an individualized blessing."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":984.44,"endTime":988.6,"body":"That was meant just for me,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":988.92,"endTime":992.08,"body":"just for us.\" And then you were"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":988.92,"endTime":992.08,"body":"right, John, he jumps into the water."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":992.72,"endTime":997.44,"body":"I got to go to him. I would say Barb"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":992.72,"endTime":997.44,"body":"is helping us get to know the Lord."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":997.6,"endTime":1002.24,"body":"We want to get to know about"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":997.6,"endTime":1002.24,"body":"him, obviously, but we get"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1002.36,"endTime":1006.8,"body":"and his timing seems to be such a"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1002.36,"endTime":1006.8,"body":"important part of his personality."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1007.72,"endTime":1009.6,"body":"I guess I'm waxing"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1007.72,"endTime":1009.6,"body":"personal here, but John,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1009.68,"endTime":1012.4,"body":"just to your point with my wonderful"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1009.68,"endTime":1012.4,"body":"nephew today, I said, please,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1013.16,"endTime":1016.32,"body":"make sure you write this down."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1013.16,"endTime":1016.32,"body":"Because even though this seems crazy,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1016.6,"endTime":1019.8,"body":"this will be something that you really"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1016.6,"endTime":1019.8,"body":"do need to share with future generations"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1019.88,"endTime":1022.6,"body":"and your friends, and maybe"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1019.88,"endTime":1022.6,"body":"most importantly, for yourself."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1023.36,"endTime":1025.88,"body":"As we've been taught"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1023.36,"endTime":1025.88,"body":"so carefully by Moroni,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1025.96,"endTime":1028.6,"body":"remember the things that the Lord has"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1025.96,"endTime":1028.6,"body":"done for the children of men since the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1028.68,"endTime":1032.88,"body":"beginning of Adam. We saw that"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1028.68,"endTime":1032.88,"body":"with Moses. He's asking the people,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1032.92,"endTime":1035.64,"body":"even in the book of Deuteronomy,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1032.92,"endTime":1035.64,"body":"remember these things."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1036.52,"endTime":1039.32,"body":"We were putting stones with"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1036.52,"endTime":1039.32,"body":"Joshua as they're crossing."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1039.56,"endTime":1043.36,"body":"Put these there so when your children"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1039.56,"endTime":1043.36,"body":"ask, you can tell them. In our day,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1043.4,"endTime":1045.04,"body":"we have so many ways to record."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1045.56,"endTime":1049.04,"body":"Find a way to record it so you and other"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1045.56,"endTime":1049.04,"body":"people will be reminded of the hand of"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1049.12,"endTime":1051.68,"body":"the Lord constantly and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1049.12,"endTime":1051.68,"body":"consistently. In fact,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1051.8,"endTime":1054.84,"body":"one of the things that Elder Scott says"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1051.8,"endTime":1054.84,"body":"is one of the ways we show God that we"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1054.88,"endTime":1058.6,"body":"love Him is by recording"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1054.88,"endTime":1058.6,"body":"our sacred experiences."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1059.2,"endTime":1061.84,"body":"We can remember Him better"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1059.2,"endTime":1061.84,"body":"if we record our experiences."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1061.96,"endTime":1063.4,"body":"It's hard to sometimes remember."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1063.52,"endTime":1066.64,"body":"Prove that you care by writing it"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1063.52,"endTime":1066.64,"body":"down or by recording it in some way."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1067.52,"endTime":1070.52,"body":"You don't need to be"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1067.52,"endTime":1070.52,"body":"intimidated by saying, oh,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1070.6,"endTime":1075.44,"body":"Even just making a note of a few"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1070.6,"endTime":1075.44,"body":"sentences will keep that on your mind."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1076.48,"endTime":1078.24,"body":"I have a note just on my phone."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1078.4,"endTime":1081.52,"body":"Or you could even make a voice memo"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1078.4,"endTime":1081.52,"body":"and say, this happened to me today."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1081.52,"endTime":1083.76,"body":"Just say it if you don't want"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1081.52,"endTime":1083.76,"body":"to write it, just say it."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1083.84,"endTime":1085.8,"body":"Today with the voice memo thing,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1086.28,"endTime":1090.4,"body":"I think you hit those little quotation"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1086.28,"endTime":1090.4,"body":"marks and it transfers it to text,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1090.64,"endTime":1091.96,"body":"like speech to text."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1092.8,"endTime":1095.68,"body":"And you can actually upload that"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1092.8,"endTime":1095.68,"body":"audio to your family search."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1095.92,"endTime":1097.72,"body":"There's so many ways to keep these things."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1098.48,"endTime":1100.28,"body":"The key is to remember."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1098.48,"endTime":1100.28,"body":"That's the principle, right?"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1100.28,"endTime":1101.8,"body":"Remember the hand of"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1100.28,"endTime":1101.8,"body":"the Lord in all things."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1102.52,"endTime":1103.353,"body":"How wonderful."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1104.04,"endTime":1105.84,"body":"If you will indulge me, everyone,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1105.88,"endTime":1108.72,"body":"I have some pretty strong"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1105.88,"endTime":1108.72,"body":"feelings about the book of Esther."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1108.88,"endTime":1112.28,"body":"Chapter one starts it off. It's"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1108.88,"endTime":1112.28,"body":"a woman's book in some ways."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1112.52,"endTime":1116.52,"body":"When I look at the book of Esther,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1112.52,"endTime":1116.52,"body":"I see influence of women at a very,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1116.72,"endTime":1117.64,"body":"very high level."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1117.88,"endTime":1120.6,"body":"I believe that Esther today would be"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1117.88,"endTime":1120.6,"body":"answering the plea of the prophet."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1120.64,"endTime":1122.08,"body":"And there are a number of"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1120.64,"endTime":1122.08,"body":"things we could talk about."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1122.12,"endTime":1124.72,"body":"But before we even get into"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1122.12,"endTime":1124.72,"body":"Esther, I want to get into Vashti."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1124.92,"endTime":1127.28,"body":"I actually have in my"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1124.92,"endTime":1127.28,"body":"scriptures, I love Vashti."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1127.88,"endTime":1130.84,"body":"But I will say this is a woman who wasn't"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1127.88,"endTime":1130.84,"body":"willing to put up with being treated"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1130.92,"endTime":1135.52,"body":"and demeaned. And I love that about her."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1130.92,"endTime":1135.52,"body":"We start out with this King Ahasuerus."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1135.92,"endTime":1139.0,"body":"We see that he is having this incredible"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1135.92,"endTime":1139.0,"body":"feast. This is in chapter one,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1139.0,"endTime":1139.833,"body":"verse three."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1139.88,"endTime":1144.48,"body":"He's having this feast unto all his"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1139.88,"endTime":1144.48,"body":"princes. He wants to show all of these"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1144.56,"endTime":1146.68,"body":"people the riches it says in verse four,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1146.8,"endTime":1149.92,"body":"and his glorious kingdom and the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1146.8,"endTime":1149.92,"body":"honor of his excellent majesty."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1150.4,"endTime":1153.2,"body":"He's throwing this huge feast."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1150.4,"endTime":1153.2,"body":"He's inviting all of these people,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1153.32,"endTime":1155.12,"body":"very high level people."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1155.6,"endTime":1160.28,"body":"And he wants to really show them how"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1155.6,"endTime":1160.28,"body":"incredible he is. It says in verse six,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1160.84,"endTime":1164.4,"body":"\"The blue hangings fastened with"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1160.84,"endTime":1164.4,"body":"chords.\" And so you see this sign of real"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1164.44,"endTime":1166.96,"body":"royalty. He's making a"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1164.44,"endTime":1166.96,"body":"very serious point here."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1167.56,"endTime":1169.92,"body":"They gave them drink in the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1167.56,"endTime":1169.92,"body":"vessels of gold. I mean,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1170.0,"endTime":1173.08,"body":"they're drinking out of gold"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1170.0,"endTime":1173.08,"body":"vessels and it's royal wine. I mean,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1173.12,"endTime":1175.84,"body":"he is going all out in this"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1173.12,"endTime":1175.84,"body":"meeting with these men."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1176.36,"endTime":1178.36,"body":"And his drinking was"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1176.36,"endTime":1178.36,"body":"according to the law. It says,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1178.48,"endTime":1182.08,"body":"\"None did compel for so the king had"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1178.48,"endTime":1182.08,"body":"appointed to all the officers of his house"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1182.28,"endTime":1186.08,"body":"that they should do according to every"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1182.28,"endTime":1186.08,"body":"man's pleasure.\" While the king is having"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1186.88,"endTime":1191.28,"body":"his big party with all of these men,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1186.88,"endTime":1191.28,"body":"we see in verse nine that Vashti,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1191.44,"endTime":1192.2,"body":"the queen,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1192.2,"endTime":1195.44,"body":"is also having a royal feast."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1192.2,"endTime":1195.44,"body":"She's there with all of her women friends."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1196.04,"endTime":1199.36,"body":"They are there. 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It says in verse 11,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1224.76,"endTime":1227.68,"body":"\"To bring Vashti, the queen, before"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1224.76,"endTime":1227.68,"body":"the king with the crown royal,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1227.84,"endTime":1231.76,"body":"to show the people and the princes her"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1227.84,"endTime":1231.76,"body":"beauty for she was fair to look upon.\""},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1231.76,"endTime":1236.0,"body":"Why is he bringing her? 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He's showing off the wine."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1249.52,"endTime":1252.56,"body":"He's showing off the grapes."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1249.52,"endTime":1252.56,"body":"He's showing off the food."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1252.6,"endTime":1253.52,"body":"He's showing off everything."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1253.6,"endTime":1257.0,"body":"It's very clear that that's what he's"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1253.6,"endTime":1257.0,"body":"doing at the beginning. 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Abraham asks Sarah."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1369.32,"endTime":1372.84,"body":"He doesn't command Sarah."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1369.32,"endTime":1372.84,"body":"That's patriarchal order."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1372.96,"endTime":1376.28,"body":"They are working together for"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1372.96,"endTime":1376.28,"body":"a righteous and good cause."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1376.84,"endTime":1381.12,"body":"And Abraham is respecting Sarah"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1376.84,"endTime":1381.12,"body":"by asking her, not demanding."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1381.84,"endTime":1384.96,"body":"But then you get to the time of Moses"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1381.84,"endTime":1384.96,"body":"and continue to go through the Old"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1384.96,"endTime":1387.32,"body":"Testament. What happens with"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1384.96,"endTime":1387.32,"body":"Moses? 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It's about eternal marriage."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1447.24,"endTime":1451.4,"body":"It's about partnership between men and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1447.24,"endTime":1451.4,"body":"women and relationships that are ordered"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1451.44,"endTime":1453.76,"body":"under God."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1451.44,"endTime":1453.76,"body":"That's patriarchal order."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1453.92,"endTime":1456.68,"body":"Patriarchal order emphasizes covenants."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1456.72,"endTime":1459.0,"body":"It emphasizes women and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1456.72,"endTime":1459.0,"body":"men being yoked together."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1459.04,"endTime":1463.52,"body":"It emphasizes being rooted in the temple"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1459.04,"endTime":1463.52,"body":"and the principles and ordinances of"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1463.56,"endTime":1464.76,"body":"the gospel of Jesus Christ."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1465.08,"endTime":1469.32,"body":"Patriarchal order emphasizes being"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1465.08,"endTime":1469.32,"body":"service-oriented and covenant and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1469.52,"endTime":1470.353,"body":"consecrated."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1470.52,"endTime":1475.44,"body":"It emphasizes women being eternal and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1470.52,"endTime":1475.44,"body":"eternal life is only possible through"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1475.52,"endTime":1478.52,"body":"women and men working together"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1475.52,"endTime":1478.52,"body":"in this synergistic relationship."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1478.8,"endTime":1482.4,"body":"It emphasizes sacred"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1478.8,"endTime":1482.4,"body":"responsibility. But the patriarchy,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1482.88,"endTime":1484.28,"body":"this is important because people,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1484.48,"endTime":1487.12,"body":"if Satan wants to use a"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1484.48,"endTime":1487.12,"body":"word to really hurt people,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1487.2,"endTime":1490.64,"body":"he's going to destroy the things that"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1487.2,"endTime":1490.64,"body":"are most sacred. I know we know this."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1491.0,"endTime":1495.68,"body":"The patriarchal order is among the most"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1491.0,"endTime":1495.68,"body":"sacred topics in the gospel of Jesus"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1495.72,"endTime":1497.4,"body":"Christ. What is he going to do?"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1497.44,"endTime":1500.64,"body":"He's going to confuse people and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1497.44,"endTime":1500.64,"body":"turn patriarchal into patriarchy."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1500.72,"endTime":1505.48,"body":"What is patriarchy? Patriarchy is"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1500.72,"endTime":1505.48,"body":"control. Patriarchy is men over women."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1505.56,"endTime":1510.04,"body":"Patriarchy is rooted in social systems"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1505.56,"endTime":1510.04,"body":"instead of the gospel of Jesus Christ."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1510.32,"endTime":1513.48,"body":"It's power oriented. 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She does not want it."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1541.76,"endTime":1544.2,"body":"I do not believe Abraham would"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1541.76,"endTime":1544.2,"body":"ever ask Sarah to do that."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1544.56,"endTime":1547.28,"body":"I do not believe that Isaac would"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1544.56,"endTime":1547.28,"body":"ever ask Rebecca to do that."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1547.56,"endTime":1551.44,"body":"I do not believe that Hank and John,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1547.56,"endTime":1551.44,"body":"I don't believe you would do that."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1551.48,"endTime":1553.0,"body":"You are righteous, good, solid men."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1553.04,"endTime":1557.84,"body":"My husband would not ask me to do that."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1553.04,"endTime":1557.84,"body":"Men who understand God and his order"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1558.32,"endTime":1559.8,"body":"will not demean their wives."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1560.52,"endTime":1565.08,"body":"I am extremely grateful and blessed"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1560.52,"endTime":1565.08,"body":"by the incredible men in my life who"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1566.32,"endTime":1570.6,"body":"understand what it means to"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1566.32,"endTime":1570.6,"body":"make and keep sacred covenants."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1571.04,"endTime":1573.68,"body":"And those who do treat women"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1571.04,"endTime":1573.68,"body":"with the greatest of respect."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1573.96,"endTime":1578.88,"body":"I have experienced mostly"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1573.96,"endTime":1578.88,"body":"respect, kindness, meekness,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1579.4,"endTime":1583.8,"body":"love unfeigned from the men in my life"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1579.4,"endTime":1583.8,"body":"who have made and kept sacred covenants."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1584.08,"endTime":1587.32,"body":"That's part of keeping the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1584.08,"endTime":1587.32,"body":"covenant. That for me is important."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1587.52,"endTime":1590.92,"body":"We haven't seen that yet in King"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1587.52,"endTime":1590.92,"body":"Ahasuerus. But to be very clear,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1591.12,"endTime":1592.24,"body":"I think we're going to see it."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1592.4,"endTime":1596.56,"body":"The influence of Esther is going"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1592.4,"endTime":1596.56,"body":"to change the way that the king"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1597.32,"endTime":1600.76,"body":"acts. I love the king. I don't like"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1597.32,"endTime":1600.76,"body":"to run him under the bus at all."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1600.84,"endTime":1603.04,"body":"I think he is part of"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1600.84,"endTime":1603.04,"body":"the society at that time."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1603.4,"endTime":1608.28,"body":"He has men that are around him that"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1603.4,"endTime":1608.28,"body":"are helping him through temptations and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1608.36,"endTime":1611.76,"body":"through peer pressure to treat a woman"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1608.36,"endTime":1611.76,"body":"in a way they shouldn't be treated."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1611.84,"endTime":1614.96,"body":"But with Esther's influence and Esther's"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1611.84,"endTime":1614.96,"body":"help throughout the next few chapters"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1614.96,"endTime":1615.44,"body":"of this book,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1615.44,"endTime":1618.56,"body":"we're going to see a king that treats"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1615.44,"endTime":1618.56,"body":"Esther very differently than at the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1618.64,"endTime":1619.473,"body":"beginning of the book."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1620.04,"endTime":1621.68,"body":"Hmm. 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It was"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1639.72,"endTime":1643.04,"body":"the same stake as President Monson."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1643.44,"endTime":1647.28,"body":"I remember a woman who was asked to come"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1643.44,"endTime":1647.28,"body":"up to the stand and bear her testimony"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1647.36,"endTime":1651.04,"body":"and she was a much older woman. She was"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1647.36,"endTime":1651.04,"body":"walking, had a difficult time walking."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1651.44,"endTime":1654.0,"body":"She was slowly walking up to"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1651.44,"endTime":1654.0,"body":"the stand at a stake conference."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1654.04,"endTime":1658.84,"body":"And who got up to help this woman"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1654.04,"endTime":1658.84,"body":"climb the steps? President Monson,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1659.04,"endTime":1662.72,"body":"who was also in his 80s, struggling"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1659.04,"endTime":1662.72,"body":"with diabetes, had a hard time standing."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1662.76,"endTime":1663.6,"body":"But what does that say?"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1663.84,"endTime":1667.88,"body":"The most Christlike people"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1663.84,"endTime":1667.88,"body":"are reaching out to the women."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1668.68,"endTime":1671.64,"body":"I think about a time when Elder Scott"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1668.68,"endTime":1671.64,"body":"was speaking at a meeting that I was in,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1671.68,"endTime":1676.04,"body":"and I was the only woman in the entire"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1671.68,"endTime":1676.04,"body":"meeting. I remember Elder Scott saying,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1676.12,"endTime":1678.84,"body":"\"We're so grateful for all of you,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1676.12,"endTime":1678.84,"body":"wonderful brethren who are here,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1678.92,"endTime":1679.48,"body":"and thank you,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1679.48,"endTime":1683.72,"body":"dear sister.\" And he just pointed out"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1679.48,"endTime":1683.72,"body":"that I was there and I appreciated that I"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1683.8,"endTime":1687.08,"body":"wasn't just another man."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1683.8,"endTime":1687.08,"body":"It was so kind of him."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1688.28,"endTime":1691.96,"body":"That is where I see my brothers."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1688.28,"endTime":1691.96,"body":"I see my husband. I see you two."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1692.08,"endTime":1694.2,"body":"I see other wonderful men in this church."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1694.6,"endTime":1696.52,"body":"I appreciate the men"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1694.6,"endTime":1696.52,"body":"who are really trying."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1696.72,"endTime":1700.76,"body":"But I do want to make that point right"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1696.72,"endTime":1700.76,"body":"here very clearly. This is not okay."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1701.08,"endTime":1704.28,"body":"The treatment of this woman is"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1701.08,"endTime":1704.28,"body":"not okay. It's going to change."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1704.36,"endTime":1706.2,"body":"But I feel for Vashti."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1706.52,"endTime":1708.16,"body":"I love that distinction."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1709.12,"endTime":1714.0,"body":"Patriarchy versus patriarchal order."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1709.12,"endTime":1714.0,"body":"I love what you've done there."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1714.2,"endTime":1717.64,"body":"Oh, I hope everybody goes, oh, okay."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1717.92,"endTime":1722.28,"body":"I can see where that is such"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1717.92,"endTime":1722.28,"body":"an important difference."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1722.28,"endTime":1725.36,"body":"Starting with the same sounding word,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1722.28,"endTime":1725.36,"body":"but that's such an important difference."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1725.48,"endTime":1728.64,"body":"I wanted to read something from"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1725.48,"endTime":1728.64,"body":"the Old Testament student manual."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1729.0,"endTime":1732.52,"body":"\"The guests had been allowed to drink"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1729.0,"endTime":1732.52,"body":"the king's wine in any quantity they"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1732.6,"endTime":1736.04,"body":"wished instead of the law where you"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1732.6,"endTime":1736.04,"body":"only drink when the king does.\" I think"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1736.16,"endTime":1739.48,"body":"that's what that law thing means."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1736.16,"endTime":1739.48,"body":"They're just drinking like crazy."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1740.12,"endTime":1743.36,"body":"The student manual says, \"After"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1740.12,"endTime":1743.36,"body":"seven days of heavy drinking,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1743.44,"endTime":1747.28,"body":"the guests were probably"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1743.44,"endTime":1747.28,"body":"quite inebriated. She, Vashti,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1747.36,"endTime":1751.56,"body":"may have considered it beneath the dignity"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1747.36,"endTime":1751.56,"body":"of the queen to parade before such a"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1751.56,"endTime":1754.16,"body":"lot, simply to display her beauty."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1754.64,"endTime":1756.68,"body":"Our friend Camille Fronk Olson said too,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1756.72,"endTime":1760.04,"body":"Queen Vashti was not merely a"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1756.72,"endTime":1760.04,"body":"trophy wife. She showed moxie."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1760.28,"endTime":1763.92,"body":"When the king summoned her to parade"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1760.28,"endTime":1763.92,"body":"her beauty in front of his inebriated"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1764.0,"endTime":1767.96,"body":"guests, she flatly refused.\"."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1767.96,"endTime":1769.92,"body":"There's a reason why chapter"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1767.96,"endTime":1769.92,"body":"one is in here, I believe."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1770.0,"endTime":1772.92,"body":"I think it's important that we recognize"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1770.0,"endTime":1772.92,"body":"what's going on here with Vashti,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1772.92,"endTime":1775.16,"body":"because Esther's going to be"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1772.92,"endTime":1775.16,"body":"stepping into this position."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1775.4,"endTime":1780.28,"body":"This is a very difficult area for"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1775.4,"endTime":1780.28,"body":"women, especially we're seeing this,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1780.32,"endTime":1783.32,"body":"and we're seeing also who this"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1780.32,"endTime":1783.32,"body":"king is surrounding himself with."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1783.56,"endTime":1787.76,"body":"This is very telling. We have this"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1783.56,"endTime":1787.76,"body":"king as we see in verse 15. He says,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1787.76,"endTime":1790.28,"body":"\"What shall we do unto the queen"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1787.76,"endTime":1790.28,"body":"Vashti, according to the law?"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1790.48,"endTime":1794.2,"body":"Because she had not performed the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1790.48,"endTime":1794.2,"body":"commandment of King Ahasuerus by the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1794.2,"endTime":1797.92,"body":"chamberlains. And Memucan answered"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1794.2,"endTime":1797.92,"body":"before the king and the princes,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1797.96,"endTime":1801.52,"body":"Vashti the queen hath not"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1797.96,"endTime":1801.52,"body":"done wrong to the king only,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1801.86,"endTime":1805.54,"body":"but also to all the princes and to all"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1801.86,"endTime":1805.54,"body":"the people that are in the provinces of"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1805.6,"endTime":1806.433,"body":"King Ahasuerus."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1807.04,"endTime":1810.52,"body":"For this deed of the queen shall come"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1807.04,"endTime":1810.52,"body":"abroad unto all women so that they should"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1810.54,"endTime":1814.3,"body":"despise their husbands in their eyes"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1810.54,"endTime":1814.3,"body":"when it shall be reported. The king"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1814.84,"endTime":1817.44,"body":"Ahasuerus commanded Vashti, the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1814.84,"endTime":1817.44,"body":"queen, to be brought in before him,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1817.84,"endTime":1820.18,"body":"but she came not. What"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1817.84,"endTime":1820.18,"body":"are they concerned about?"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1820.72,"endTime":1823.52,"body":"They're concerned about other people"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1820.72,"endTime":1823.52,"body":"also not obeying their husbands."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1823.72,"endTime":1828.38,"body":"They're concerned about other people"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1823.72,"endTime":1828.38,"body":"also not following suit and the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1828.42,"endTime":1830.96,"body":"problems that that could"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1828.42,"endTime":1830.96,"body":"entail, and that's sad."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1831.72,"endTime":1834.52,"body":"They're concerned again for"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1831.72,"endTime":1834.52,"body":"themselves. This is an issue of pride."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1834.78,"endTime":1836.8,"body":"This is them saying,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1834.78,"endTime":1836.8,"body":"\"Well, if we don't do this,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1837.14,"endTime":1841.16,"body":"then other women are also going to"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1837.14,"endTime":1841.16,"body":"think it's not okay.\" In verse 22,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1841.42,"endTime":1845.84,"body":"if we continue on with this, let's go"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1841.42,"endTime":1845.84,"body":"to verse 20. \"When the king's decree,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1846.2,"endTime":1847.04,"body":"which he shall make,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1847.08,"endTime":1849.6,"body":"shall be published throughout all"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1847.08,"endTime":1849.6,"body":"of his empire for it is great,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1850.16,"endTime":1852.12,"body":"all the wives shall give"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1850.16,"endTime":1852.12,"body":"to their husband's honor,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1852.24,"endTime":1853.86,"body":"both to great and small.\" In other words,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1854.04,"endTime":1856.2,"body":"all women should be bowing"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1854.04,"endTime":1856.2,"body":"down to their husbands. Again,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1856.26,"endTime":1859.24,"body":"that is not the patriarchal order."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1856.26,"endTime":1859.24,"body":"That is not the family proclamation."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1859.66,"endTime":1862.22,"body":"That is not what our current prophets"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1859.66,"endTime":1862.22,"body":"and apostles are teaching us today."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1862.44,"endTime":1866.86,"body":"Then continuing, And the saying"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1862.44,"endTime":1866.86,"body":"pleased the king. Well, of course,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1867.32,"endTime":1869.7,"body":"he wants everyone to bow down to"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1867.32,"endTime":1869.7,"body":"him. He cares a lot about money."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1869.8,"endTime":1872.62,"body":"He cares about pride. He cares"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1869.8,"endTime":1872.62,"body":"about what he looks like."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1872.64,"endTime":1874.16,"body":"It's a natural man issue. Yeah,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1874.26,"endTime":1876.92,"body":"he's having people surrounding him that"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1874.26,"endTime":1876.92,"body":"are going to give him exactly what he"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1876.98,"endTime":1880.49,"body":"wants, which is a whole nother"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1876.98,"endTime":1880.49,"body":"issue of leadership. Then verse 22,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1880.49,"endTime":1883.72,"body":"\"For he sent letters unto all the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1880.49,"endTime":1883.72,"body":"king's provinces and to every province,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1883.78,"endTime":1886.7,"body":"according to the writing thereof, and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1883.78,"endTime":1886.7,"body":"to every people after their language,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1887.14,"endTime":1890.94,"body":"that every man should bear rule in his"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1887.14,"endTime":1890.94,"body":"own house and that it should be published"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1890.98,"endTime":1894.38,"body":"according to the language of every"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1890.98,"endTime":1894.38,"body":"people.\" I recognize that word rule."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1894.74,"endTime":1899.22,"body":"We saw this in the book of Genesis as"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1894.74,"endTime":1899.22,"body":"well with Adam and Eve. I love what"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1899.26,"endTime":1901.44,"body":"President Hinckley says"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1899.26,"endTime":1901.44,"body":"about rule. He says,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1901.44,"endTime":1905.56,"body":"\"My interpretation of that sentence,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1901.44,"endTime":1905.56,"body":"speaking very specifically about rule,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1906.18,"endTime":1909.88,"body":"is that the husband shall have a"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1906.18,"endTime":1909.88,"body":"governing responsibility to provide for,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1910.04,"endTime":1914.54,"body":"to protect, to strengthen, and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1910.04,"endTime":1914.54,"body":"to shield.\" It's not rule over."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1914.96,"endTime":1916.82,"body":"The husband, as it says in"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1914.96,"endTime":1916.82,"body":"the Family Proclamation,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1917.42,"endTime":1921.32,"body":"this is a different kind of rule."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1917.42,"endTime":1921.32,"body":"This is he has a responsibility."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1922.06,"endTime":1925.6,"body":"He has a responsibility to protect"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1922.06,"endTime":1925.6,"body":"his wife, to provide for his family,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1926.14,"endTime":1929.68,"body":"to strengthen and shield other"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1926.14,"endTime":1929.68,"body":"people. That's what righteous men do."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1930.54,"endTime":1935.1,"body":"That's what my experience with men"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1930.54,"endTime":1935.1,"body":"has been most of my entire life."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1935.12,"endTime":1937.0,"body":"There have been a few exceptions."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1935.12,"endTime":1937.0,"body":"When I see those exceptions,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1937.08,"endTime":1940.42,"body":"I think to myself, Section 121"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1937.08,"endTime":1940.42,"body":"of the Doctrine and Covenants."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1940.44,"endTime":1942.54,"body":"I'll read the scripture so"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1940.44,"endTime":1942.54,"body":"it's not coming from me,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1942.62,"endTime":1946.62,"body":"but it's coming from the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1942.62,"endTime":1946.62,"body":"Lord to Joseph. Behold,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1946.78,"endTime":1949.44,"body":"there are many called but few are"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1946.78,"endTime":1949.44,"body":"chosen and why are they not chosen?"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1949.44,"endTime":1951.62,"body":"Because their hearts are set so"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1949.44,"endTime":1951.62,"body":"much upon the things of this world,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1951.98,"endTime":1955.96,"body":"King Ahasuerus right now. And aspire"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1951.98,"endTime":1955.96,"body":"to the honors of men, King Ahasuerus,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1956.62,"endTime":1957.98,"body":"that they do not learn this one lesson."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1958.52,"endTime":1961.16,"body":"That the rights of the priesthood are"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1958.52,"endTime":1961.16,"body":"inseparably connected with the powers of"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1961.2,"endTime":1964.44,"body":"heaven and that the powers of heaven"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1961.2,"endTime":1964.44,"body":"cannot be controlled nor handled only by"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1964.58,"endTime":1968.24,"body":"principles of righteousness. That"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1964.58,"endTime":1968.24,"body":"they may be conferred upon us is true,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1968.4,"endTime":1970.88,"body":"but when we undertake to cover"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1968.4,"endTime":1970.88,"body":"our sins, which he was doing,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1971.36,"endTime":1974.28,"body":"or to gratify our pride, which"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1971.36,"endTime":1974.28,"body":"he was doing, or vain ambition,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1974.44,"endTime":1976.64,"body":"which he was doing, or exercise control,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1976.9,"endTime":1979.42,"body":"or dominion or compulsion upon"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1976.9,"endTime":1979.42,"body":"the souls of the children of men,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1979.56,"endTime":1982.9,"body":"which he was doing, and any"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1979.56,"endTime":1982.9,"body":"degree of unrighteousness, behold,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1982.98,"endTime":1985.34,"body":"the heavens withdraw themselves,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1982.98,"endTime":1985.34,"body":"the spirit of the Lord is grieved,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1985.46,"endTime":1986.38,"body":"and when it is withdrawn,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1986.52,"endTime":1990.64,"body":"amen to the priesthood or the authority"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1986.52,"endTime":1990.64,"body":"of that man. But on the opposite side,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1991.26,"endTime":1991.96,"body":"verse 41,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1991.96,"endTime":1995.22,"body":"no power or influence can or ought to be"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1991.96,"endTime":1995.22,"body":"maintained by virtue of the priesthood"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1995.3,"endTime":1998.38,"body":"only by persuasion, by longsuffering,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1995.3,"endTime":1998.38,"body":"by gentleness, by meekness,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1998.46,"endTime":2000.96,"body":"by love unfeigned, by"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":1998.46,"endTime":2000.96,"body":"kindness and pure knowledge,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2001.0,"endTime":2004.44,"body":"which shall greatly enlarge the soul"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2001.0,"endTime":2004.44,"body":"without hypocrisy, without guile,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2004.92,"endTime":2007.36,"body":"reproving betimes with sharpness"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2004.92,"endTime":2007.36,"body":"when moved upon by the Holy Ghost,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2007.42,"endTime":2011.04,"body":"and then showing forth"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2007.42,"endTime":2011.04,"body":"afterwards an increase of love"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2011.52,"endTime":2013.64,"body":"reproved. Lest they esteem"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2011.52,"endTime":2013.64,"body":"him to be his enemy."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2014.3,"endTime":2018.48,"body":"And let thy bowels be full of"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2014.3,"endTime":2018.48,"body":"charity. That's how righteous,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2018.82,"endTime":2021.0,"body":"wonderful men are and recognizing"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2018.82,"endTime":2021.0,"body":"that they're not perfect."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2021.04,"endTime":2024.58,"body":"And I will also throw in, that's the same"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2021.04,"endTime":2024.58,"body":"with women. If women are controlling,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2025.02,"endTime":2027.66,"body":"if women have their hearts"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2025.02,"endTime":2027.66,"body":"upon the things of the world,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2027.72,"endTime":2031.16,"body":"if women are acting in"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2027.72,"endTime":2031.16,"body":"pride or vain ambitions or"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2031.26,"endTime":2032.7,"body":"over people, their"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2031.26,"endTime":2032.7,"body":"husband or their children,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2033.4,"endTime":2036.18,"body":"amen to the priesthood power that they"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2033.4,"endTime":2036.18,"body":"have been endowed with in the temple."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2036.42,"endTime":2039.48,"body":"Amen to the authority that"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2036.42,"endTime":2039.48,"body":"they have received as they"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2039.6,"endTime":2042.94,"body":"and they have been called and set apart"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2039.6,"endTime":2042.94,"body":"in callings. Amen to it for women too."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2043.96,"endTime":2047.76,"body":"Women and men who are covenant-keeping"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2043.96,"endTime":2047.76,"body":"people are building people to come unto"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2047.8,"endTime":2050.46,"body":"Christ and be like him. Anything"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2047.8,"endTime":2050.46,"body":"less than that is not of God."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2050.96,"endTime":2053.24,"body":"To be clear again, it's not of God."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2053.68,"endTime":2056.32,"body":"If women or men are treating"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2053.68,"endTime":2056.32,"body":"each other in a negative way,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2057.12,"endTime":2060.5,"body":"Vashti's experiencing that. And Esther"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2057.12,"endTime":2060.5,"body":"is not going to be putting up with that."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2060.96,"endTime":2063.44,"body":"Vashi didn't put up with it, and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2060.96,"endTime":2063.44,"body":"Esther's not going to put up with it."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2063.84,"endTime":2066.46,"body":"But Esther's righteousness, I believe,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2063.84,"endTime":2066.46,"body":"is really going to help this king."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2067.14,"endTime":2070.16,"body":"Hey, how many times have"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2067.14,"endTime":2070.16,"body":"we mentioned Section 121?"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2071.48,"endTime":2075.88,"body":"I love it of not only just how to deal"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2071.48,"endTime":2075.88,"body":"with people, but that idea that, okay,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2075.94,"endTime":2079.36,"body":"you may have had the priesthood conferred"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2075.94,"endTime":2079.36,"body":"upon you, but you act like that."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2079.52,"endTime":2080.36,"body":"You don't have the priesthood."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2081.5,"endTime":2085.06,"body":"I remember my dad one time, I"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2081.5,"endTime":2085.06,"body":"came home from a volleyball trip."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2085.74,"endTime":2090.08,"body":"I was in high school. My parents"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2085.74,"endTime":2090.08,"body":"had 13 children. I walked in."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2090.2,"endTime":2093.48,"body":"My mom had forgotten to pick me up,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2090.2,"endTime":2093.48,"body":"which I was, frankly, I was used to."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2093.78,"endTime":2095.48,"body":"I am like, I got forgotten at church."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2095.82,"endTime":2099.72,"body":"I walked home all the time from"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2095.82,"endTime":2099.72,"body":"everywhere again, and I was number 12."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2100.0,"endTime":2103.24,"body":"And who remembers the 12th child? Like"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2100.0,"endTime":2103.24,"body":"no one. They lost me in Disneyland,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2103.28,"endTime":2103.9,"body":"for heaven' sakes."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2103.9,"endTime":2108.0,"body":"I spent the entire day in the lost and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2103.9,"endTime":2108.0,"body":"found in Disneyland when I was six."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2108.12,"endTime":2111.14,"body":"Granted, my mother wasn't there, but I"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2108.12,"endTime":2111.14,"body":"was just kind of used to getting lost."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2111.98,"endTime":2114.34,"body":"And I remember walking in after"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2111.98,"endTime":2114.34,"body":"walking home from high school."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2114.36,"endTime":2118.32,"body":"It was a few miles to get home. And"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2114.36,"endTime":2118.32,"body":"I walked in, my mom was doing dishes."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2118.72,"endTime":2123.48,"body":"I remember going up to her and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2118.72,"endTime":2123.48,"body":"just letting her have it. I was"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2123.6,"endTime":2127.64,"body":"mean. I was cruel. I was"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2123.6,"endTime":2127.64,"body":"not keeping my covenants."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2128.54,"endTime":2132.98,"body":"I just couldn't deal with the fact that"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2128.54,"endTime":2132.98,"body":"I had been left again by this wicked"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2133.04,"endTime":2137.58,"body":"woman. It was so stupid as I look"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2133.04,"endTime":2137.58,"body":"at it like she's doing dishes."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2138.14,"endTime":2142.92,"body":"I remember her standing there and just"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2138.14,"endTime":2142.92,"body":"looking at me and the look in her eye"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2144.28,"endTime":2145.113,"body":"was so hurt."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2146.2,"endTime":2149.18,"body":"Then my dad walked around the corner"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2146.2,"endTime":2149.18,"body":"and I thought he was at work because I"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2149.2,"endTime":2152.12,"body":"would never have done that to my mom"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2149.2,"endTime":2152.12,"body":"if my dad were home, to be very frank."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2153.24,"endTime":2155.62,"body":"He walked up to me and he"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2153.24,"endTime":2155.62,"body":"put his finger in my face."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2156.46,"endTime":2158.68,"body":"And he just said a very short phrase,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2159.46,"endTime":2163.26,"body":"\"That is my wife.\""},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2165.22,"endTime":2167.58,"body":"And I ran. I ran."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2168.54,"endTime":2171.1,"body":"I can genuinely say I"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2168.54,"endTime":2171.1,"body":"trusted my dad completely."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2171.26,"endTime":2173.76,"body":"My dad was a person that we're describing"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2171.26,"endTime":2173.76,"body":"here as one who understands the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2173.8,"endTime":2178.44,"body":"patriarchal order and how to treat people"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2173.8,"endTime":2178.44,"body":"well. I ran from him because I knew I"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2178.48,"endTime":2181.04,"body":"had hurt him and I knew I'd hurt my mom."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2181.6,"endTime":2183.2,"body":"I wasn't running from"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2181.6,"endTime":2183.2,"body":"him because I was scared."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2183.52,"endTime":2185.12,"body":"I was running from him"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2183.52,"endTime":2185.12,"body":"because of my love for them."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2185.86,"endTime":2188.76,"body":"And I couldn't believe that I"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2185.86,"endTime":2188.76,"body":"had done that. Shortly after,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2188.82,"endTime":2191.54,"body":"as it says in Doctrine and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2188.82,"endTime":2191.54,"body":"Covenants 121, he came downstairs,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2192.36,"endTime":2195.88,"body":"knocked on the door, sat by me on"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2192.36,"endTime":2195.88,"body":"the bed and just simply said, \"Barb,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2196.62,"endTime":2200.26,"body":"I am disappointed. I love"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2196.62,"endTime":2200.26,"body":"you and I love your mother."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2201.42,"endTime":2202.8,"body":"I do not want to see"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2201.42,"endTime":2202.8,"body":"you hurting each other."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2203.8,"endTime":2207.96,"body":"Your mother has done nothing to deserve"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2203.8,"endTime":2207.96,"body":"this, but has given you her entire life."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2208.68,"endTime":2212.96,"body":"Please do not hurt yourself or our"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2208.68,"endTime":2212.96,"body":"family by acting in such a manner.\""},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2213.98,"endTime":2215.36,"body":"And I knew that my dad would do that."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2215.48,"endTime":2218.14,"body":"I knew that he was that kind of person"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2215.48,"endTime":2218.14,"body":"because he is a man of covenant."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2218.54,"endTime":2221.24,"body":"I want to make it clear. I recognize"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2218.54,"endTime":2221.24,"body":"that every person has different"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2221.32,"endTime":2223.86,"body":"understandings and we're all"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2221.32,"endTime":2223.86,"body":"struggling with different things,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2223.88,"endTime":2226.14,"body":"and especially anger"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2223.88,"endTime":2226.14,"body":"sometimes can be very real."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2226.2,"endTime":2228.36,"body":"And that's one of the things that"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2226.2,"endTime":2228.36,"body":"the king is struggling with here too,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2228.4,"endTime":2231.24,"body":"it looks like. But try to"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2228.4,"endTime":2231.24,"body":"lift and build each other."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2231.72,"endTime":2235.18,"body":"I appreciate that my dad didn't get"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2231.72,"endTime":2235.18,"body":"mad at me and scream or anything."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2235.26,"endTime":2239.44,"body":"He just owned it. Then at the very end,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2239.84,"endTime":2242.98,"body":"reprove betimes with sharpness when led"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2239.84,"endTime":2242.98,"body":"by the Holy Ghost. But then go forth."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2243.26,"endTime":2245.86,"body":"Make sure that they understand that you"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2243.26,"endTime":2245.86,"body":"still love them and there's not some"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2245.92,"endTime":2248.94,"body":"hatred behind you and there's not"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2245.92,"endTime":2248.94,"body":"some wedge that's going to ruin your"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2248.96,"endTime":2251.1,"body":"relationship because we"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2248.96,"endTime":2251.1,"body":"care about each other."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2251.12,"endTime":2252.28,"body":"And that's what the priesthood is."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2252.6,"endTime":2256.16,"body":"The purpose of the priesthood is to"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2252.6,"endTime":2256.16,"body":"save souls. It's to save families."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2256.86,"endTime":2259.56,"body":"We get over ourselves, we put"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2256.86,"endTime":2259.56,"body":"ourselves in the hands of the Lord,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2259.66,"endTime":2262.44,"body":"and we act as Christlike as we can."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2259.66,"endTime":2262.44,"body":"Again, we're not perfect."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2262.52,"endTime":2265.1,"body":"We're all trying to climb our"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2262.52,"endTime":2265.1,"body":"own mountains. Grace for grace,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2265.38,"endTime":2267.9,"body":"as it says in section 93,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2265.38,"endTime":2267.9,"body":"following Jesus Christ."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2268.98,"endTime":2272.48,"body":"Back to Vashti and the idea of the king"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2268.98,"endTime":2272.48,"body":"listening to his friends and feeling"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2272.5,"endTime":2275.68,"body":"like, well, because of his friends, he's"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2272.5,"endTime":2275.68,"body":"going to treat Vashti in a certain way."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2276.14,"endTime":2278.06,"body":"That's just sad that he"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2276.14,"endTime":2278.06,"body":"doesn't have his own backbone."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2278.44,"endTime":2281.58,"body":"I wonder if he kicked himself."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2278.44,"endTime":2281.58,"body":"You do see this in chapter two."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2282.48,"endTime":2284.72,"body":"I'll go there for a second."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2282.48,"endTime":2284.72,"body":"He says, \"After these things,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2284.74,"endTime":2286.6,"body":"when the wrath of King"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2284.74,"endTime":2286.6,"body":"Ahasuerus was appeased,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2287.1,"endTime":2291.48,"body":"he remembered Vashti.\" So he's no longer"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2287.1,"endTime":2291.48,"body":"mad. I could be seeing this wrong,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2291.5,"endTime":2293.46,"body":"but the way I see this, for some reason,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2293.8,"endTime":2296.32,"body":"I've learned to love this king in"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2293.8,"endTime":2296.32,"body":"a funny way because he's so mortal."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2297.32,"endTime":2300.52,"body":"After the anger had passed, he"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2297.32,"endTime":2300.52,"body":"sits there and he remembers Vashti."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2301.2,"endTime":2304.56,"body":"And what she had done and what was"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2301.2,"endTime":2304.56,"body":"decreed against her. Then said the king's"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2304.6,"endTime":2305.7,"body":"servants that administered unto him,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2305.92,"endTime":2308.06,"body":"let there be a fair young"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2305.92,"endTime":2308.06,"body":"virgin sought for the king."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2308.34,"endTime":2309.64,"body":"I don't know if that's"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2308.34,"endTime":2309.64,"body":"even what he wanted."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2309.86,"endTime":2311.7,"body":"I wonder if maybe he just wanted her back."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2311.92,"endTime":2315.08,"body":"Maybe he realized that he had made"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2311.92,"endTime":2315.08,"body":"a huge mistake. He was really angry,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2315.18,"endTime":2318.2,"body":"and maybe he just wanted her back."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2315.18,"endTime":2318.2,"body":"He's just thinking on Vashti."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2319.08,"endTime":2322.52,"body":"But the people he's surrounding"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2319.08,"endTime":2322.52,"body":"himself with tell him, well,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2322.54,"endTime":2325.64,"body":"let's go find you a virgin to"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2322.54,"endTime":2325.64,"body":"make you happy. I don't know."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2325.88,"endTime":2329.08,"body":"Maybe that is what he wanted. It doesn't"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2325.88,"endTime":2329.08,"body":"feel like that to me when I read this."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2329.34,"endTime":2330.22,"body":"Then you see in verse three,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2330.32,"endTime":2332.9,"body":"And let the king appoint officers"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2330.32,"endTime":2332.9,"body":"in all the provinces of his kingdom,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2333.34,"endTime":2336.24,"body":"that they may gather together all"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2333.34,"endTime":2336.24,"body":"the fair young virgins unto Shushan,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2336.46,"endTime":2337.9,"body":"the palace, to the house of the women,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2337.94,"endTime":2342.32,"body":"unto the custody of Hege and the King's"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2337.94,"endTime":2342.32,"body":"chamberlains, keeper of the women,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2342.68,"endTime":2346.46,"body":"et cetera. So the king agrees to this."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2342.68,"endTime":2346.46,"body":"My personal opinion,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2346.48,"endTime":2347.313,"body":"there's nothing more than that,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2347.36,"endTime":2351.24,"body":"is I think the king was recognizing"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2347.36,"endTime":2351.24,"body":"already that he had made a mistake"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2352.42,"endTime":2354.92,"body":"and he's thinking on her. It"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2352.42,"endTime":2354.92,"body":"doesn't say that he's mad at her."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2355.06,"endTime":2358.2,"body":"I think he's thinking on her."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2355.06,"endTime":2358.2,"body":"And now the reality is though,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2358.5,"endTime":2361.46,"body":"there's a stage that's"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2358.5,"endTime":2361.46,"body":"been set. Vashti is gone."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2362.04,"endTime":2363.54,"body":"The king would like another wife."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2364.08,"endTime":2367.58,"body":"What they did back then culturally"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2364.08,"endTime":2367.58,"body":"to find another wife for the king,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2368.2,"endTime":2370.08,"body":"which gets us to this next"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2368.2,"endTime":2370.08,"body":"part where we start now,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2370.2,"endTime":2372.42,"body":"we're going to be introduced to Esther."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2372.98,"endTime":2376.62,"body":"Barb, I like that you"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2372.98,"endTime":2376.62,"body":"are so good to the king."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2376.78,"endTime":2380.0,"body":"It just tells me about who you are."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2376.78,"endTime":2380.0,"body":"You want to see the good in him."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2380.72,"endTime":2384.32,"body":"He is so influenced. It seems"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2380.72,"endTime":2384.32,"body":"all throughout the book,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2385.1,"endTime":2388.26,"body":"it's almost like he can't"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2385.1,"endTime":2388.26,"body":"be his own person at times."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2388.78,"endTime":2391.3,"body":"That someone sends something"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2388.78,"endTime":2391.3,"body":"and he says, \"Well, yeah, okay,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2391.36,"endTime":2394.84,"body":"let's do that.\" I'm glad that"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2391.36,"endTime":2394.84,"body":"you see such goodness in him."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2394.86,"endTime":2398.18,"body":"That is just like you. We have"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2394.86,"endTime":2398.18,"body":"women with backbone in this story."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2398.48,"endTime":2400.96,"body":"Is there going to be a"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2398.48,"endTime":2400.96,"body":"man with a backbone here?"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2401.02,"endTime":2403.06,"body":"And good thing Mordecai is here."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2403.56,"endTime":2408.28,"body":"I wrote in my margin, he"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2403.56,"endTime":2408.28,"body":"remembered Vashti and I put sober?"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2408.56,"endTime":2410.4,"body":"Because maybe he was now sober."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2411.12,"endTime":2412.2,"body":"He's like, \"Where'd she go?\"."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2412.3,"endTime":2415.58,"body":"What have I done? Yeah, what have"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2412.3,"endTime":2415.58,"body":"I done? And then like you said,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2415.72,"endTime":2420.12,"body":"instead of solving it himself, a servant"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2415.72,"endTime":2420.12,"body":"shows up, hey, I have an idea. Yeah,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2420.14,"endTime":2420.973,"body":"okay, we'll do that."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2421.44,"endTime":2422.8,"body":"There is a reality of what have I done?"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2423.28,"endTime":2425.4,"body":"I think that that's why I give"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2423.28,"endTime":2425.4,"body":"the king the benefit of the doubt,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2425.44,"endTime":2429.18,"body":"because we do see the king changing."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2425.44,"endTime":2429.18,"body":"To be clear, all of us make mistakes."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2429.58,"endTime":2430.62,"body":"Who of us has not said,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2430.66,"endTime":2433.54,"body":"\"What have I done?\" Whether it was"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2430.66,"endTime":2433.54,"body":"because we were drinking and we wake up in"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2433.56,"endTime":2436.4,"body":"the morning or because we were in a fit"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2433.56,"endTime":2436.4,"body":"of anger and we wake up in the morning,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2436.94,"endTime":2439.2,"body":"or it was because we were fearful"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2436.94,"endTime":2439.2,"body":"and we wake up in the morning."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2439.48,"endTime":2442.52,"body":"We were judgmental and we wake up"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2439.48,"endTime":2442.52,"body":"in the morning. Every one of us,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2442.54,"endTime":2446.0,"body":"and that's part of mortality, is"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2442.54,"endTime":2446.0,"body":"we ask ourselves, \"Oh my goodness,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2446.16,"endTime":2450.02,"body":"what have I done?\" I think, to your"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2446.16,"endTime":2450.02,"body":"point, Hank, on this one, you say,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2450.54,"endTime":2451.66,"body":"\"Why doesn't he get a backbone?\" Well,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2452.04,"endTime":2454.88,"body":"I think that there may be an"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2452.04,"endTime":2454.88,"body":"answer again in section 121,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2455.64,"endTime":2458.68,"body":"because he doesn't have confidence."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2455.64,"endTime":2458.68,"body":"He's lacking confidence."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2458.7,"endTime":2462.58,"body":"And why is he lacking confidence? Because"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2458.7,"endTime":2462.58,"body":"he is not full of virtue, so it seems,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2462.62,"endTime":2463.7,"body":"and he's not full of charity."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2464.54,"endTime":2466.16,"body":"And if you're lacking virtue"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2464.54,"endTime":2466.16,"body":"and you're lacking charity,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2466.2,"endTime":2467.12,"body":"you're lacking confidence."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2467.18,"endTime":2469.88,"body":"And you're more likely to be swayed"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2467.18,"endTime":2469.88,"body":"by the evil influences in the world."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2470.54,"endTime":2472.98,"body":"In my life, the people I see that are"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2470.54,"endTime":2472.98,"body":"the least confident are the people,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2473.34,"endTime":2474.72,"body":"they may have a fake confidence."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2475.16,"endTime":2478.06,"body":"The most confident people are"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2475.16,"endTime":2478.06,"body":"the ones who are most Christlike."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2478.76,"endTime":2480.2,"body":"The more Christlike we"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2478.76,"endTime":2480.2,"body":"are, the more confidence."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2480.22,"endTime":2483.38,"body":"And often it's a quiet confidence."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2480.22,"endTime":2483.38,"body":"It's a diligent confidence,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2483.76,"endTime":2486.64,"body":"but it's a backbone confidence."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2483.76,"endTime":2486.64,"body":"You can push somebody so far,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2486.7,"endTime":2490.68,"body":"but a person who is a son of God or a"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2486.7,"endTime":2490.68,"body":"daughter of God who is confident before"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2490.7,"endTime":2493.12,"body":"the Lord is not going to play the game."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2494.0,"endTime":2495.12,"body":"I remember, John,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2495.18,"endTime":2498.68,"body":"you'll remember President Hinckley"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2495.18,"endTime":2498.68,"body":"in the priesthood session of General"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2498.72,"endTime":2500.56,"body":"Conference. We don't have that anymore,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2500.6,"endTime":2504.46,"body":"but you would sit there and you know"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2500.6,"endTime":2504.46,"body":"he's going to call on men to do better."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2505.02,"endTime":2509.08,"body":"I remember sitting there and it was like,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2505.02,"endTime":2509.08,"body":"okay. President Hinckley, here's 2006."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2510.0,"endTime":2512.84,"body":"With this priesthood comes a great"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2510.0,"endTime":2512.84,"body":"obligation to be worthy of it."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2513.36,"endTime":2517.2,"body":"We cannot indulge in unclean thoughts."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2513.36,"endTime":2517.2,"body":"We must not partake of pornography."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2517.64,"endTime":2521.7,"body":"We must never be guilty of abuse of any"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2517.64,"endTime":2521.7,"body":"kind. We must rise above such things."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2522.24,"endTime":2525.24,"body":"Rise up, O men of God, and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2522.24,"endTime":2525.24,"body":"put these things behind you."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2525.76,"endTime":2528.22,"body":"And the Lord will be your guide and stay."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2529.46,"endTime":2531.9,"body":"I've had students over the years say,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2529.46,"endTime":2531.9,"body":"why are the prophets so hard on the men?"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2531.96,"endTime":2533.18,"body":"And they don't do anything to the women."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2534.1,"endTime":2536.6,"body":"The brethren are speaking to"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2534.1,"endTime":2536.6,"body":"the women just as strongly,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2536.68,"endTime":2538.66,"body":"but they do it in a different"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2536.68,"endTime":2538.66,"body":"way like you just said, John."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2539.48,"endTime":2542.62,"body":"How many times have we had a President"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2539.48,"endTime":2542.62,"body":"Monson that says to the women,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2543.52,"endTime":2547.38,"body":"you need to clean your windows so you're"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2543.52,"endTime":2547.38,"body":"not judging the other woman in the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2547.44,"endTime":2549.92,"body":"house next door. Her clothes"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2547.44,"endTime":2549.92,"body":"are actually pretty clean."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2549.98,"endTime":2552.62,"body":"It's your windows that are"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2549.98,"endTime":2552.62,"body":"dirty. They're saying it to us."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2553.46,"endTime":2554.46,"body":"Joseph Smith said that,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2555.06,"endTime":2559.7,"body":"actually the early Relief Society"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2555.06,"endTime":2559.7,"body":"minutes where Joseph Smith is speaking to"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2559.74,"endTime":2563.08,"body":"those women. It's very similar to Section"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2559.74,"endTime":2563.08,"body":"121 of the Doctrine and Covenants."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2563.68,"endTime":2565.76,"body":"Instead of using some of those same"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2563.68,"endTime":2565.76,"body":"words, although some words are similar,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2565.84,"endTime":2567.26,"body":"but he's saying to them, hold your tongue."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2567.94,"endTime":2571.84,"body":"Be careful lest you talk negatively about"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2567.94,"endTime":2571.84,"body":"another woman. Be careful with the way"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2571.9,"endTime":2573.38,"body":"you express. Be careful with judgment."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2573.72,"endTime":2576.7,"body":"They're saying things and they're"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2573.72,"endTime":2576.7,"body":"correcting and helping women be better."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2577.34,"endTime":2579.84,"body":"We see that from President Nelson."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2577.34,"endTime":2579.84,"body":"We've seen that from President Oaks,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2579.86,"endTime":2582.72,"body":"but Elder Bednar just came and spoke"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2579.86,"endTime":2582.72,"body":"to the women and he asked the women to"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2582.78,"endTime":2587.68,"body":"arise. Arise. Do more. Be"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2582.78,"endTime":2587.68,"body":"better. We're both hearing it,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2587.7,"endTime":2591.04,"body":"but I do think that there"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2587.7,"endTime":2591.04,"body":"may be a different way that"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2591.12,"endTime":2591.953,"body":"than men are."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2592.3,"endTime":2595.28,"body":"I think if women are prescient and really"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2592.3,"endTime":2595.28,"body":"paying attention to what's being said,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2595.3,"endTime":2597.42,"body":"that they will also recognize the loving,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2598.4,"endTime":2602.86,"body":"rising that the Lord is providing"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2598.4,"endTime":2602.86,"body":"for his daughters. As you said, Hank,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2603.12,"endTime":2605.1,"body":"the Lord loves whom he chastens."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2606.26,"endTime":2609.8,"body":"I also will throw out in this case"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2606.26,"endTime":2609.8,"body":"that often for women, if I may,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2610.86,"endTime":2613.16,"body":"maybe it's the same case with men."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2610.86,"endTime":2613.16,"body":"I'd leave that to you guys to tell us,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2613.28,"endTime":2615.12,"body":"although you're not all men,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2613.28,"endTime":2615.12,"body":"but you may, you may be,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2615.18,"endTime":2616.18,"body":"and I'm definitely not all women,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2616.24,"endTime":2620.78,"body":"but I would say sometimes I think women"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2616.24,"endTime":2620.78,"body":"believe that the Lord is chastening them"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2620.86,"endTime":2625.1,"body":"when in reality it's the adversary putting"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2620.86,"endTime":2625.1,"body":"them down. The Lord doesn't chasten"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2625.2,"endTime":2628.2,"body":"through demeaning, just as we"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2625.2,"endTime":2628.2,"body":"talked about patriarchal order."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2628.26,"endTime":2632.3,"body":"The Lord doesn't chasten through making"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2628.26,"endTime":2632.3,"body":"you feel bad. It's the Elder Maxwell,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2632.58,"endTime":2636.06,"body":"it's the divine discontent that the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2632.58,"endTime":2636.06,"body":"Lord provides. It's not that demeaning,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2636.76,"endTime":2640.38,"body":"demonic, \"I'm horrible. My life's not"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2636.76,"endTime":2640.38,"body":"worth...\" That's not coming from the Lord."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2640.38,"endTime":2643.18,"body":"That's also important for women just to"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2640.38,"endTime":2643.18,"body":"understand how the Lord does speak to"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2643.26,"endTime":2644.8,"body":"his daughters and his sons."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2645.14,"endTime":2647.28,"body":"It's always going to be a lifting"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2645.14,"endTime":2647.28,"body":"and building experience. Again,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2647.34,"endTime":2649.18,"body":"patriarchal order never is demeaning,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2649.32,"endTime":2651.74,"body":"and God is the head of"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2649.32,"endTime":2651.74,"body":"the patriarchal order."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2652.6,"endTime":2656.32,"body":"Hmm. Barbara, what you shared"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2652.6,"endTime":2656.32,"body":"right at first, Joseph F. Smith,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2657.06,"endTime":2661.64,"body":"lead the world. Don't be led by the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2657.06,"endTime":2661.64,"body":"world. That shows confidence right there."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2661.88,"endTime":2665.1,"body":"Lead the world. That he"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2661.88,"endTime":2665.1,"body":"has confidence in you."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2665.56,"endTime":2668.78,"body":"What a beautiful way to say it. This"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2665.56,"endTime":2668.78,"body":"is in you. You have the potential,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2668.84,"endTime":2671.78,"body":"the power to do it. Lead the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2668.84,"endTime":2671.78,"body":"world. Don't be led by the world."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2672.42,"endTime":2673.253,"body":"I'll remember that."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2674.08,"endTime":2676.84,"body":"John, if it's okay, this is the actual"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2674.08,"endTime":2676.84,"body":"quote. I just looked it up. He says this."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2677.54,"endTime":2679.32,"body":"Speaking to the women"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2677.54,"endTime":2679.32,"body":"in the church, he said,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2679.88,"endTime":2682.28,"body":"\"It is not for you to be led"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2679.88,"endTime":2682.28,"body":"by the women of the world."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2682.48,"endTime":2686.08,"body":"It is for you to lead the world,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2682.48,"endTime":2686.08,"body":"especially the women of the world."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2686.7,"endTime":2689.34,"body":"And everything that is praiseworthy,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2686.7,"endTime":2689.34,"body":"everything that is God-like,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2689.48,"endTime":2690.52,"body":"everything that is uplifting,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2690.68,"endTime":2692.68,"body":"and everything that is purifying"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2690.68,"endTime":2692.68,"body":"to the children of men."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2693.8,"endTime":2696.12,"body":"Lead the world.\" It was"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2693.8,"endTime":2696.12,"body":"Sister Smoot, I believe,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2696.14,"endTime":2699.38,"body":"who talks about how we have enough women"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2696.14,"endTime":2699.38,"body":"who are harsh and enough women who are"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2699.92,"endTime":2701.72,"body":"mean or their temper and things like that."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2701.74,"endTime":2704.4,"body":"But we need women who are"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2701.74,"endTime":2704.4,"body":"following Christ, who are gentle,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2704.48,"endTime":2706.36,"body":"who are using their spiritual"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2704.48,"endTime":2706.36,"body":"gifts to lift and to build."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2706.66,"endTime":2709.22,"body":"That's my interpretation. But"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2706.66,"endTime":2709.22,"body":"we need those kinds of women."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2709.24,"endTime":2711.78,"body":"There's a difference in"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2709.24,"endTime":2711.78,"body":"power. The world, again,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2711.8,"endTime":2716.22,"body":"that's another word that the adversary"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2711.8,"endTime":2716.22,"body":"just loves to use. Power is an extremely"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2716.28,"endTime":2719.96,"body":"important word. The Lord uses it"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2716.28,"endTime":2719.96,"body":"consistently throughout the scriptures."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2720.44,"endTime":2721.64,"body":"Satan does not like that word."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2721.82,"endTime":2723.9,"body":"Somehow it just becomes"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2721.82,"endTime":2723.9,"body":"sometimes a negative word."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2724.32,"endTime":2728.0,"body":"But power used in righteousness"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2724.32,"endTime":2728.0,"body":"is God's power. It's priesthood."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2728.14,"endTime":2732.16,"body":"And with women, and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2728.14,"endTime":2732.16,"body":"for men, love is power."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2732.48,"endTime":2734.92,"body":"Love is very powerful."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2732.48,"endTime":2734.92,"body":"Charity is very powerful."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2735.62,"endTime":2739.0,"body":"So if we could really understand how God"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2735.62,"endTime":2739.0,"body":"uses his power, how God uses his love,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2739.62,"endTime":2742.4,"body":"it would change the way we"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2739.62,"endTime":2742.4,"body":"understand priesthood and presiding."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2743.22,"endTime":2747.1,"body":"I get asked often what is presiding?"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2743.22,"endTime":2747.1,"body":"And there are a number of, numbers,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2747.3,"endTime":2749.18,"body":"so many quotes about presiding."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2749.76,"endTime":2754.48,"body":"Those that I love talk about how"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2749.76,"endTime":2754.48,"body":"presiding is service and what it means to"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2754.54,"endTime":2757.4,"body":"preside in righteousness."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2754.54,"endTime":2757.4,"body":"I'll give you maybe a couple."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2757.84,"endTime":2762.68,"body":"I love this one. This one is from"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2757.84,"endTime":2762.68,"body":"Elder L. Tom Perry. Remember, brethren,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2762.8,"endTime":2765.66,"body":"that in your role as a leader in your"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2762.8,"endTime":2765.66,"body":"family, your wife is your companion."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2766.28,"endTime":2766.88,"body":"Since the beginning,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2766.88,"endTime":2769.82,"body":"God has instructed mankind that marriage"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2766.88,"endTime":2769.82,"body":"should unite husband and wife together"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2769.84,"endTime":2773.48,"body":"in unity. Therefore, there is not a"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2769.84,"endTime":2773.48,"body":"president or a vice president in a family."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2773.92,"endTime":2776.26,"body":"The couple works together eternally"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2773.92,"endTime":2776.26,"body":"for the good of the family."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2776.4,"endTime":2780.3,"body":"They are united together in word, in"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2776.4,"endTime":2780.3,"body":"deed, and in action as they lead, guide,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2780.36,"endTime":2783.38,"body":"and direct their family unit."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2780.36,"endTime":2783.38,"body":"They are on equal footing."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2783.54,"endTime":2786.78,"body":"They plan and organize the affairs of the"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2783.54,"endTime":2786.78,"body":"family jointly and unanimously as they"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2786.82,"endTime":2788.66,"body":"move forward. In recent years,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2788.68,"endTime":2792.94,"body":"we've had Elder Soares talking about"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2788.68,"endTime":2792.94,"body":"what that means to have this patriarchal"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2793.02,"endTime":2795.82,"body":"order and to enter into this"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2793.02,"endTime":2795.82,"body":"everlasting covenant of the priesthood."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2796.6,"endTime":2798.98,"body":"Elder Holland has a great"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2796.6,"endTime":2798.98,"body":"quote where he's talking about,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2799.8,"endTime":2802.86,"body":"I don't have a problem with any"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2799.8,"endTime":2802.86,"body":"man understanding presiding when,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2802.98,"endTime":2803.813,"body":"because when they understand it,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2803.82,"endTime":2807.34,"body":"they're going to serve and love and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2803.82,"endTime":2807.34,"body":"build each other. Elder Rasband says,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2807.78,"endTime":2811.18,"body":"\"Preside does not mean dominate."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2807.78,"endTime":2811.18,"body":"Nurture does not mean a secondary role."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2811.32,"endTime":2812.74,"body":"God has given men and women different,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2812.76,"endTime":2816.7,"body":"but equal and essential roles that"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2812.76,"endTime":2816.7,"body":"compliment each other.\" Presiding,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2816.74,"endTime":2821.36,"body":"if you ask me what it is, it's to"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2816.74,"endTime":2821.36,"body":"love. It's to serve. It's to protect."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2822.02,"endTime":2826.68,"body":"It's to build. I have seen people"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2822.02,"endTime":2826.68,"body":"say, \"What is it? When you see it,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2826.72,"endTime":2829.08,"body":"you know it. When you"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2826.72,"endTime":2829.08,"body":"experience it, you know it."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2829.2,"endTime":2831.56,"body":"It is a man who will lay"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2829.2,"endTime":2831.56,"body":"down his life for his friend."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2832.04,"endTime":2833.56,"body":"A man who will lay down"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2832.04,"endTime":2833.56,"body":"his life for his wife."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2834.46,"endTime":2837.62,"body":"Presiding is not being in"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2834.46,"endTime":2837.62,"body":"control. Presiding is serving."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2838.38,"endTime":2841.04,"body":"Which I think that's why it's Christlike"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2838.38,"endTime":2841.04,"body":"leadership is service leadership."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2842.0,"endTime":2844.32,"body":"I've experienced that. Sometimes"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2842.0,"endTime":2844.32,"body":"I recognize that some haven't."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2844.98,"endTime":2847.7,"body":"I have experienced it and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2844.98,"endTime":2847.7,"body":"I appreciate it so much."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2848.94,"endTime":2850.32,"body":"Let's do a little ping pong then."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2850.38,"endTime":2852.96,"body":"We've gone back and forth"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2850.38,"endTime":2852.96,"body":"between men and women. John,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2853.0,"endTime":2856.72,"body":"you want to hear one from Elder"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2853.0,"endTime":2856.72,"body":"Christofferson? President Christofferson,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2856.78,"endTime":2858.9,"body":"but then Elder Christofferson."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2856.78,"endTime":2858.9,"body":"You ready for this?"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2859.34,"endTime":2860.173,"body":"Mm-hmm."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2860.38,"endTime":2863.58,"body":"\"As men of the priesthood, we have"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2860.38,"endTime":2863.58,"body":"an essential role to play in society,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2863.8,"endTime":2868.42,"body":"at home and in the church. But we"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2863.8,"endTime":2868.42,"body":"must be men that women can trust,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2868.82,"endTime":2871.92,"body":"that children can trust,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2868.82,"endTime":2871.92,"body":"and that God can trust."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2872.56,"endTime":2874.84,"body":"In the church and in the kingdom"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2872.56,"endTime":2874.84,"body":"of God in these latter days,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2874.9,"endTime":2877.26,"body":"we cannot afford to have boys"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2874.9,"endTime":2877.26,"body":"and men who are drifting."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2877.9,"endTime":2881.5,"body":"We cannot afford young men who lack"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2877.9,"endTime":2881.5,"body":"self-discipline and live only to be"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2881.62,"endTime":2885.94,"body":"entertained. We cannot afford young"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2881.62,"endTime":2885.94,"body":"adult men who are going nowhere in life,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2886.24,"endTime":2891.06,"body":"who are not serious about forming families"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2886.24,"endTime":2891.06,"body":"and making real contribution in this"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2891.16,"endTime":2891.82,"body":"world."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2891.82,"endTime":2895.76,"body":"We cannot afford husbands and fathers"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2891.82,"endTime":2895.76,"body":"who fail to provide spiritual leadership"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2895.8,"endTime":2896.633,"body":"in the home."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2896.8,"endTime":2901.44,"body":"We cannot afford to have"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2896.8,"endTime":2901.44,"body":"those who exercise the Holy"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2901.5,"endTime":2902.42,"body":"of the Son of God,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2902.9,"endTime":2907.44,"body":"waste their strength in pornography"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2902.9,"endTime":2907.44,"body":"or spend their lives in cyberspace,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2907.98,"endTime":2912.78,"body":"ironically being of the world while"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2907.98,"endTime":2912.78,"body":"not being in the world. Brethren,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2912.96,"endTime":2917.4,"body":"we have a work to do.\" Then"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2912.96,"endTime":2917.4,"body":"he does exactly a little"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2917.66,"endTime":2920.16,"body":"Barb said to do. \"Brethren,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2917.66,"endTime":2920.16,"body":"we have a work to do."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2921.0,"endTime":2925.18,"body":"Thank you for the sacrifices you"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2921.0,"endTime":2925.18,"body":"make and the good you do. Keep going."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2925.22,"endTime":2929.88,"body":"And the Lord will help you.\" He follows"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2925.22,"endTime":2929.88,"body":"up. You can feel the love. He says,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2929.92,"endTime":2934.06,"body":"\"At times, you may not know quite what"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2929.92,"endTime":2934.06,"body":"to do or what to say. Move forward."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2934.48,"endTime":2935.26,"body":"Begin to act,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2935.26,"endTime":2939.98,"body":"and the Lord assures that an"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2935.26,"endTime":2939.98,"body":"effectual door will be open for you."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2941.24,"endTime":2944.64,"body":"It is true that we are, in many"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2941.24,"endTime":2944.64,"body":"ways, ordinary and imperfect,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2944.98,"endTime":2949.94,"body":"but we have a perfect master who wrought"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2944.98,"endTime":2949.94,"body":"a perfect atonement and we have call"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2950.02,"endTime":2954.42,"body":"upon his grace and his priesthood."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2950.02,"endTime":2954.42,"body":"As we repent and purge our souls,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2954.88,"endTime":2959.7,"body":"we are promised that we will be taught"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2954.88,"endTime":2959.7,"body":"and endowed with power from on high.\""},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2959.7,"endTime":2963.5,"body":"It's exactly what Barb"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2959.7,"endTime":2963.5,"body":"said. Oh, listen to this."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2963.88,"endTime":2967.3,"body":"\"The church and the world"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2963.88,"endTime":2967.3,"body":"and women are crying for men."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2967.9,"endTime":2970.66,"body":"Men who are developing"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2967.9,"endTime":2970.66,"body":"their capacity and talents,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2971.0,"endTime":2973.14,"body":"who are willing to work"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2971.0,"endTime":2973.14,"body":"and make sacrifices,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2973.5,"endTime":2977.96,"body":"who will help others achieve happiness"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2973.5,"endTime":2977.96,"body":"and salvation. They are crying rise up,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2978.08,"endTime":2981.94,"body":"oh men of God. God, help us"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2978.08,"endTime":2981.94,"body":"do it.\" I love this Barb,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2982.16,"endTime":2984.64,"body":"we're getting pep talks on"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2982.16,"endTime":2984.64,"body":"both sides of the aisle."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2986.14,"endTime":2989.92,"body":"We all have so much work to do."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2986.14,"endTime":2989.92,"body":"So I share this story. And Dustin,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2989.98,"endTime":2991.52,"body":"my husband and I got married"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2989.98,"endTime":2991.52,"body":"when we were both 40."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2991.94,"endTime":2993.44,"body":"You get kind of set in your ways."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2995.04,"endTime":2998.88,"body":"I remember after we were married and I"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2995.04,"endTime":2998.88,"body":"would leave like I normally would and"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2998.9,"endTime":3001.84,"body":"just go do a bunch of stuff, head to"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":2998.9,"endTime":3001.84,"body":"the library, go shopping, go to dinner,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":3001.86,"endTime":3003.54,"body":"whatever, call my friends."},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":3001.86,"endTime":3003.54,"body":"And I remember one day,"},{"speaker":"We land in Amsterdam at 6","startTime":3004.0,"endTime":3005.1,"body":"it was not too long after we were married,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3005.12,"endTime":3008.46,"body":"30"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3005.12,"endTime":3008.46,"body":"at night. And he was like, \"Barb, are,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3008.54,"endTime":3011.32,"body":"are you okay?\" I was like,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3008.54,"endTime":3011.32,"body":"\"Well, yeah. It's what I do."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3011.76,"endTime":3014.36,"body":"I always stay out late and then I come"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3011.76,"endTime":3014.36,"body":"home when I want to.\" And he was so kind"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3014.4,"endTime":3018.9,"body":"about it, just like, \"Okay, just"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3014.4,"endTime":3018.9,"body":"checking in.\" For me, it was just normal."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3018.94,"endTime":3023.14,"body":"For him, it wasn't normal."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3018.94,"endTime":3023.14,"body":"So it went on that way for a little while."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3023.16,"endTime":3026.32,"body":"And one day he was getting a little bit"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3023.16,"endTime":3026.32,"body":"bugged by it. And I was like, \"Dustin,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3026.66,"endTime":3029.14,"body":"I am my own person.\" I wasn't trying."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3029.24,"endTime":3031.46,"body":"It was just more the"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3029.24,"endTime":3031.46,"body":"personality of me and him."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3032.1,"endTime":3035.52,"body":"I just wasn't used to having to check"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3032.1,"endTime":3035.52,"body":"in. Why would I check in? Right."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3036.92,"endTime":3041.64,"body":"After that, the next morning, he just"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3036.92,"endTime":3041.64,"body":"said, \"I'm so sorry.\" And I said, \"Well,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3041.66,"endTime":3044.06,"body":"why are you sorry?\" He said,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3044.14,"endTime":3048.2,"body":"\"I just want to make sure that you're"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3044.14,"endTime":3048.2,"body":"loved.\" What does it do to me as a wife?"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3049.42,"endTime":3053.84,"body":"Makes me want to be a better wife. Oh."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3049.42,"endTime":3053.84,"body":"He's just good. But is he perfect? No,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3053.96,"endTime":3057.34,"body":"but he's just a good guy trying to"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3053.96,"endTime":3057.34,"body":"do what's right. He'll be a man,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3057.42,"endTime":3061.42,"body":"he'll step forward. It causes"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3057.42,"endTime":3061.42,"body":"me to say to myself as a woman,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3062.52,"endTime":3066.08,"body":"I need to step up to the plate because"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3062.52,"endTime":3066.08,"body":"I need to make sure in our home we are"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3066.1,"endTime":3070.7,"body":"having peace. 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I would imagine that's"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3159.28,"endTime":3162.16,"body":"extremely obvious. 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He"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3259.22,"endTime":3264.04,"body":"clearly is mentoring her. He's clearly"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3259.22,"endTime":3264.04,"body":"loving her. 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It's just true."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3751.92,"endTime":3756.02,"body":"I remember I had a conversation"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3751.92,"endTime":3756.02,"body":"with one of my students."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3756.04,"endTime":3760.3,"body":"Her name was Sydney Fry. I said,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3756.04,"endTime":3760.3,"body":"\"What do your parents think?\" \"Well,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3760.74,"endTime":3765.66,"body":"they don't like,\" you know, and it"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3760.74,"endTime":3765.66,"body":"saved her life, going to her parents."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3766.6,"endTime":3769.72,"body":"Saved her future. 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It was this close to, I think,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3775.22,"endTime":3776.78,"body":"a tragic trajectory."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3777.44,"endTime":3781.84,"body":"It's so good, John and Hank."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3777.44,"endTime":3781.84,"body":"Speaking to you guys as dads too,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3782.06,"endTime":3783.66,"body":"just from a daughter's perspective,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3784.1,"endTime":3787.34,"body":"your daughters love you and"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3784.1,"endTime":3787.34,"body":"they look up to you a lot."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3787.68,"endTime":3791.42,"body":"I know you know that it may sometimes"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 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I'm just grateful that he did."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3931.38,"endTime":3935.8,"body":"I can think of many experiences where he,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3936.06,"endTime":3937.96,"body":"as you both have said,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3936.06,"endTime":3937.96,"body":"where he had a backbone."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3939.22,"endTime":3943.3,"body":"He was not afraid of being the dad."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3939.22,"endTime":3943.3,"body":"By the dad, a very loving, kind dad,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":3943.32,"endTime":3946.92,"body":"but he was very wise. 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We were all that."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4058.97,"endTime":4062.13,"body":"And after cruising the"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4058.97,"endTime":4062.13,"body":"gut for a period of time,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4062.19,"endTime":4064.57,"body":"this car of young men"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4062.19,"endTime":4064.57,"body":"started following us,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4064.61,"endTime":4067.61,"body":"and they followed us all the way across"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4064.61,"endTime":4067.61,"body":"the Willamette River and down to this"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4067.63,"endTime":4068.03,"body":"little place."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4068.03,"endTime":4070.63,"body":"And we were so afraid there's no"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4068.03,"endTime":4070.63,"body":"way we could bring any of them home."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4070.71,"endTime":4074.77,"body":"So we parked, we pulled into, the"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4070.71,"endTime":4074.77,"body":"only church parking lot in the area,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4074.85,"endTime":4077.05,"body":"which was the Church of Jesus Christ"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4074.85,"endTime":4077.05,"body":"of Latter-day Saints parking lot,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4077.07,"endTime":4078.47,"body":"because that was our safe place, I guess,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4078.51,"endTime":4080.53,"body":"and thinking that they would leave us"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4078.51,"endTime":4080.53,"body":"alone. But they followed us into that"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4080.77,"endTime":4083.33,"body":"church parking lot. It was a"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4080.77,"endTime":4083.33,"body":"few miles from our own home."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4083.79,"endTime":4086.79,"body":"They rolled down the window, they"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4083.79,"endTime":4086.79,"body":"got out, and they asked us on a date."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4087.53,"endTime":4091.52,"body":"And we were so excited."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4087.53,"endTime":4091.52,"body":"It was, we just turned 16."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4091.89,"endTime":4094.95,"body":"These boys that we didn't know were"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4091.89,"endTime":4094.95,"body":"cruising the gut. It was midnight,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4094.99,"endTime":4097.21,"body":"and they had asked us on a"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4094.99,"endTime":4097.21,"body":"date. Of course, we said yes."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4097.57,"endTime":4101.89,"body":"We were just giddy about it. We"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4097.57,"endTime":4101.89,"body":"drove home each to our own areas."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4101.93,"endTime":4106.31,"body":"And then I announced to my parents that"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4101.93,"endTime":4106.31,"body":"I was so excited that I'd been asked on"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4106.35,"endTime":4109.33,"body":"a date by these guys"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4106.35,"endTime":4109.33,"body":"that were in this truck."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4109.73,"endTime":4112.41,"body":"Didn't give them all the details of"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4109.73,"endTime":4112.41,"body":"driving down the street and things,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4112.47,"endTime":4115.23,"body":"but of course, I'm doing this and"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4112.47,"endTime":4115.23,"body":"my parents are looking at me like,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4115.33,"endTime":4119.51,"body":"\"You are the most interesting child.\""},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4115.33,"endTime":4119.51,"body":"We'll just say it that way. I remember my"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4119.63,"endTime":4123.77,"body":"dad saying, \"It's so great that you and"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4119.63,"endTime":4123.77,"body":"your friends were all asked on a date,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4123.79,"endTime":4125.93,"body":"what's your plan?\" And I told them,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4123.79,"endTime":4125.93,"body":"like, \"Well, I don't know yet."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4125.95,"endTime":4127.73,"body":"They're going to pick us up and"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4125.95,"endTime":4127.73,"body":"they're going to take us somewhere.\""},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4130.61,"endTime":4135.17,"body":"And my dad said, \"That is such an"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4130.61,"endTime":4135.17,"body":"interesting idea.\" This is my memory."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4135.35,"endTime":4136.29,"body":"\"That is such an interesting idea."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4136.35,"endTime":4139.19,"body":"I am fine with you guys going"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4136.35,"endTime":4139.19,"body":"on a date with these young men,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4140.01,"endTime":4143.53,"body":"but you will not be going just anywhere."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4140.01,"endTime":4143.53,"body":"You'll be going to the backyard,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4144.35,"endTime":4146.77,"body":"and your brother David will be"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4144.35,"endTime":4146.77,"body":"sitting on the trampoline with you."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4147.63,"endTime":4151.83,"body":"And you will not leave the trampoline"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4147.63,"endTime":4151.83,"body":"with those young men until they are gone."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4152.33,"endTime":4155.59,"body":"And you will have a wonderful date."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4152.33,"endTime":4155.59,"body":"All six of you and your brother, David,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4156.19,"endTime":4160.93,"body":"will sit on the trampoline and have your"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4156.19,"endTime":4160.93,"body":"date.\" You know what? It was horrible."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4162.27,"endTime":4164.03,"body":"Those guys were not worth our time,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4164.09,"endTime":4169.09,"body":"and it was a total joke. I"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4164.09,"endTime":4169.09,"body":"was so embarrassed as they"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4169.11,"endTime":4171.49,"body":"back on the back of that"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4169.11,"endTime":4171.49,"body":"trampoline. Clearly,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4171.53,"endTime":4174.85,"body":"their intentions were not what"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4171.53,"endTime":4174.85,"body":"I had thought as a 16-year-old."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4175.03,"endTime":4178.89,"body":"And I'm so grateful for the protection"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4175.03,"endTime":4178.89,"body":"of my father who made sure that we all"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4179.13,"endTime":4183.77,"body":"had a great date on the trampoline with"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4179.13,"endTime":4183.77,"body":"my five year older brother who just got"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4183.81,"endTime":4188.45,"body":"home from his mission and just"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4183.81,"endTime":4188.45,"body":"loved those boys to death with"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4188.85,"endTime":4189.683,"body":"me."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4190.09,"endTime":4193.97,"body":"And kindly escorted them out of the area"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4190.09,"endTime":4193.97,"body":"after a few minutes of sitting on that"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4194.01,"endTime":4196.35,"body":"trampoline together."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4194.01,"endTime":4196.35,"body":"There are various ways."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4196.53,"endTime":4200.57,"body":"I guess the point here is just be"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4196.53,"endTime":4200.57,"body":"the dad. It's okay. You can say no."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4200.71,"endTime":4203.97,"body":"You can put your kids on the trampoline"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4200.71,"endTime":4203.97,"body":"together and give them some agency,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4204.39,"endTime":4207.57,"body":"but at the same time, make sure that"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4204.39,"endTime":4207.57,"body":"they're safe as much as you can."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4208.23,"endTime":4210.47,"body":"If your kids want to cruise the gut,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4210.81,"endTime":4215.55,"body":"then and you get a gut feeling,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4210.81,"endTime":4215.55,"body":"then you know what to do."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4216.65,"endTime":4221.19,"body":"This is Marvin J. Ashton,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4216.65,"endTime":4221.19,"body":"1985. Many years ago,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4221.85,"endTime":4223.11,"body":"I heard a story that impressed me."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4223.29,"endTime":4227.79,"body":"A beautiful little blind girl was"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4223.29,"endTime":4227.79,"body":"being held by her father in a crowded"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4227.83,"endTime":4231.97,"body":"compartment on a train. A friend"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4227.83,"endTime":4231.97,"body":"was nearby and said to the father,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4232.05,"endTime":4235.43,"body":"\"Let me give you a little rest.\" And he"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4232.05,"endTime":4235.43,"body":"reached over and took the little girl"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4235.55,"endTime":4239.39,"body":"and held her. A few moments"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4235.55,"endTime":4239.39,"body":"later, the father said to her,"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4239.97,"endTime":4243.43,"body":"\"Do you know who is holding you?\""},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4239.97,"endTime":4243.43,"body":"\"No,\" the little girl replied."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4244.03,"endTime":4248.73,"body":"\"But you do.\" She was at peace because"},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4244.03,"endTime":4248.73,"body":"she knew and trusted her father."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4250.33,"endTime":4255.07,"body":"Amen. Exactly. Exactly."},{"speaker":"Dustin called and it was probably 10","startTime":4250.33,"endTime":4255.07,"body":"Such a great story."}]}