From Seoul to Tokyo: Scandals in the Spotlight: part 2

Could one moment of poor judgment ruin a career? Join us as we unpack the shocking DUI incident involving BTS member SUGA, examining conflicting reports about the vehicle and his blood alcohol level. We'll look at Big Hit Music's apologies and the critical need for accurate communication. Plus, we emphasize the human aspect of making mistakes and invite you to share your thoughts on this deeply complex issue.

Next, we navigate the scandal engulfing Yuichi Nakamaru of KAT-TUN, who was recently caught in a compromising situation at an APA hotel despite being "newly" married. From the woman's possible motives to Nakamaru's questionable behavior, we discuss the broader implications for his career and bandmates. Reflecting on the disappointment felt by fans and colleagues, we draw parallels to similar industry situations, highlighting the unfortunate impact on everyone involved.

Finally, we delve into the emotional turmoil experienced by fans in light of Nakamaru's scandal. Hear varying perspectives on the moral and emotional implications of infidelity, particularly for public figures. Some express profound betrayal and heartbreak, while others offer a more empathetic view of human imperfection. Our conversation captures the deep connections fans have with their idols and the personal pain such scandals can cause. Tune in to hear these heartfelt discussions and share your own views.

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:20

Hi everybody, welcome back to Music Elixir. This is actually going to be a continuation from the previous episode, correct, Panic.

Speaker 2 0:31

Yes. So on our last Ransom Rambling, we did so much Ransom Rambling, especially at a specific subject, so we decided to actually take it out of that ransom rambling and make it a part two. Yeah, we talked for a very long time this is a very because it's a very passionate topic for the both of us, and well, in these, these particular news tidbits were a little more in need of in-depth discussion.

Speaker 1 1:04

Anyways, they weren't something we could quickly mention in passing right, anyways, uh, we will love your thoughts and opinions.

Speaker 2 1:13

Um so, please, this is a, you know, open conversation, so after this episode. Please partake on your feelings on the subject. So there you go.

Speaker 1 1:24

Enjoy the episode.

Speaker 2 1:26

So do you have any lighter news on the J-POP?

Speaker 1 1:30

No, okay, we're going to have to get in the heavy stuff.

Speaker 2 1:33

Which one do you want to? Let's talk about Suga? Okay, Because you know I'm our boy. Yeah, Our boy.

Speaker 1 1:41

Suga Got in a little bit of trouble the other day.

Speaker 2 1:46

And they're still talking about it. I mentioned to sarah when she came in I'm like I'm I'm on air doing my thing, I'm looking at it's still trending today, and it's still trending the whole situation with sugar, so big hit music apologizes for conveying misinformation about bts sugar's dui.

Speaker 1 2:09

This is something that I just just saw recently now well, because first he and hi big hit both issued a statement previously, like right after it happened, because, like sugar, knew this is not going to be kept quiet. There's no way, it's not gonna exactly. So he issued an apology pretty much right away, and then big hit did too. But then, yeah, it's because there's been all this back and forth about what kind of vehicle. Yeah, that's what it was. That's where the misinformation what kind of vehicle.

Speaker 2 2:44

And there's okay. There's some news in korea saying that it was his blood alcohol level was a 0.08.

Speaker 1 2:54

Other ones are saying it was triple that yeah, that it was 0.2 something, yeah, I think. Well, see, that's where this confusion comes from, because I believe what it is, that the legal limit to be qualified as driving under the influence is the 0.08. So anything above that, like it doesn't matter if you're 0.08, or quadruple that even, which would be really bad.

Speaker 2 3:22

I don't know if I can walk, if you're like that, yeah.

Speaker 1 3:25

But so you're legally drunk. Yeah, at that point. Yeah, so you know, okay, 0.08, 0.1, 0.2, doesn't matter, you were drunk, according to the law so, yeah, we don't know where in south korea the law on blood level is.

Speaker 1 3:40

I know here in the us even one drink bus driving is still drunk driving, right if, if he had that, or it doesn't matter where he was on the scale, according to the law he was already drunk at 0.08. Yeah no, here you. If you admit to have, if they pull you over and you say, oh well, I just had a beer with some friends, you're, you just put your foot in it, you're already in trouble.

Speaker 2 4:07

So this article on Soompi, they said. On August 7th, the Seoul police station revealed that they had booked Suga for riding an electric scooter while under the influence of alcohol. While under the influence of alcohol. Later that day, both Big Hit Music and Suga released separate apologies regarding the incident, in which they referred to the vehicle used by Suga as an electric kickboard. However, shortly afterwards, the police officially clarified that the vehicle in question was not a kickboard but a scooter with a seat, stating the vehicle that Suga drove while drunk has been clarified as an electric scooter with a seat. Additionally, while Big Hit Music and Suga Apologies appeared to suggest that the case had been concluded with the imposition of a fine and the revocation of his driver's license, the police clarified that their investigations were still underway.

Speaker 1 5:20

Well, they can pursue further actions if they're so inclined.

Speaker 2 5:25

So on August 8th, big Hit responded by releasing an additional statement apologizing for having conveyed misinformation due to internal communication errors errors, uh. The agency emphasized that they had not intended to downplay the incident, explaining that they had mistakenly believed that the police had already concluded their investigation and closed the case well, when you find somebody and take their license away, that's, you know, pretty conclusive.

Speaker 1 6:03

But well, in the whole, this is the. The whole issue with the scooter thing is because there are see, you need to just show us a picture of what he was riding because there are so many stories going around and there are electric kickboard style things that you can buy a seat to attach to right so therefore, you can have an electric kick board with a saddle as they like to call it okay, all right, because to me, scooter is like a big bike thing.

Speaker 1 6:38

It's bulky, it's got a lot of components to it. You know what I mean. So, like, I'm like, well, in that case, yeah, that's what you know. Either way, it's probably not a good idea to be riding it after a few drinks, right, people ride bikes drunk, people walk drunk. That can be dangerous too. Yeah, stumble in the road, that's a bad idea, but, um, you know so either way, maybe a little bit of a poor decision on his part. Um, but people are also human.

Speaker 1 7:05

Sometimes you're out, you're just having a good time, sort of lose track of things. Your judgment isn't the best, right, you know what I mean. So, in people sort of jumping to conclusions about his, his personal life and I don't want to come right out and save you know but like people are are sort of being like well, obviously there's a deeper rooted problem. Well, no, not, obviously. Again, people make mistakes, people get caught up in. I mean, I've done it, I'm sure you've done it. You're out drinking with your friends and the next thing you know you're like whoa, I am not okay. You know it happens. People reach a point and make some bad choices, right?

Speaker 2 7:48

Sometimes you think I'm just going to have one drink and then I don't know. You see a buddy you haven't seen in years. It's like hey, so forget the one drink. It's like, you know, start celebrating with your buddy, and then one drink comes, two, and then three and four, and it's like, uh, yeah, I can't move. Um, I either need to wait or call somebody from home. Hey, pick me up yeah, I can't go anywhere.

Speaker 2 8:16

Well, you know which had happened. You know I'll be going with the girls. Uh, you know, have a night out with the girls. Just happens, you sleep with the girls. Yes, and um, one of the girls. Uh, you know, have a night out with the girls.

Speaker 2 8:24

This happens usually with the girls, yes, and um, one of the girls is had a breakup, but you know, when one of your girls is half a breakup, it's like we need to cheer. We need to cheer her up. So drink starts pouring in, it's like you know. So I'm like I need to chill, you know, and just let my friend do that. Um, so I'll be calling family, hey, um, we have a situation. Please pick us up, or I'll? You know if I'm usually I'm more sober than anything, because I need to pay attention what my friend is doing.

Speaker 2 9:00

Yeah, exactly, so I'll drive my friend to my house and then I'll be like family, we gotta pick up the car, we can't just leave it there, and then we do the whole swap thing but you know, um, yeah, and in also we have seen a lot that in asian countries, drinking is like a very social yeah, I was gonna say social thing. It's something that is just very normal. You know, you, you drink and most of the time you drink until your shit face. You know, yep, I mean, I have seen pictures of people posting things that happen like in tokyo. It's like, oh, look at this person, they just have way too much.

Speaker 1 9:43

Or people trying to carry with each other like two drunks, you know, and it's like, oh man you know, we're not trying to say no, there's no fault here, we're just saying that everybody's human and everybody makes mistakes. So you know and you don't know. We don't really know the whole story because I have heard so many different versions of you know, oh he, he was only 0.08. Oh he was 2.21. Like right he, he was swerving everywhere. No, he drove in a straight line. Oh, he fell over here. No, he fell off here right you know, you're like what?

Speaker 1 10:18

I don't know what happened. It's crazy. So we sort of just need to wait for the whole thing to pan out, right. And the good news is, though, that, apparently, because he's serving his military service, the South Korean military has said they're not going to pursue anything with it because he's part of the civil service, so he's technically, it's just his job, so he was off duty, and they're not going to do any punishment of any. You know, no corrective actions, right, right, so he's just facing the actual civil court system.

Speaker 2 11:01

Mm-hmm. So I wonder okay, so this this happening, I wonder if from if anything are going to be changing in infrastructure in for am I saying that right infrastructure?

Speaker 1 11:16

within the company? Oh, within, like hit high, do you mean? Yeah?

Speaker 2 11:21

meaning uh, if any of our talents are go drinking, you need to have a chaperone gonna send mr lee. Yeah, where's mr lee? He'd have kicked his ass. Mr lee, what's up? You're gonna have no life. You're gonna be taking well, you know, babysitting these kids yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 11:42

What I'm sort of like amazed at it's probably just because it is Suga is we've heard of other artists that this has happened to, but it's sort of like they put out one news thing and it's over, and it's done. This is turning into this whole big can of worms.

Speaker 2 12:00

Oh yeah, there's people out there saying take S sugar out of the bts he should leave.

Speaker 1 12:07

No, no, no, it's not no it was a poor decision on his part.

Speaker 1 12:14

Yes, he's going to suffer the consequences as far as having his license revoked, he's gonna pay fines. Like there's repercussions to this action, right, that's, you know, got nothing to do with his music artist, like most people, don't get fired from their job, right, for getting in trouble with a dui. Right, it messes up your ability to do your job because when you don't have a license, you, but he's got people who can drive him. You know, right, but you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 12:47

Like like this is because the sugar, yeah, I mean our. Look, even our local news is reporting on this I'm like since when our local news is reporting on anything related? K-pop anything. And yeah, exactly, it must have been a slow week here it's like oh, we got to do this because you know we get some traction if we talk about, you know, this BTS guy.

Speaker 1 13:11

He was yeah, he was bigger than Hurricane Debbie. Exactly, it's like you know, we had a hurricane going up the entire East Coast. You're all confused. The more important was Suga.

Speaker 2 13:28

I wanted to just post it and I'm like, really, really it does. You guys don't even have a celebrity section. Why are you?

Speaker 1 13:33

reporting on this entertainment section portion of the news. Yeah, it just like you guys are awful.

Speaker 2 13:42

You know why. You know you give me your salary yeah, you know please so what? Kind of reporter are you? This is not, anyway, oh god, anyway.

Speaker 1 13:52

So I know he he made a mistake, but I'm I still support him and the guys oh no, me too it's yeah, this is a bad decision.

Speaker 2 14:04

I do not condone drinking and driving, I do not condone that at all. But the situation on on his part is he just fell off his bike or or whatever scooter kickboard, whatever you know yeah he just fell. He just fell. The only person here that is injured is himself and his everything from, from his pride to his yeah.

Speaker 1 14:27

So now, maybe a few scrapers, I don't know. So now, maybe he'll think a little more. Well, he'll have plenty of time. I don't know. I don't know how the rule about the license works over there. Here you can get it back after a few years and you need to do some things. Yeah, yeah, you have to do a few things, but you, yeah, can get the license back. I don't know about south korea.

Speaker 2 14:48

I don't, yeah, we don't know the law over there. All right, so moving on to another news, that yeah and this one.

Speaker 1 14:57

This one, it hurt between you and family.

Speaker 2 15:00

Double whammy on a Wednesday morning.

Speaker 1 15:05

Who was more subtle about it, family or me? No, you guys sent me the same stuff. Well, no, because I sent you just a text first before I started sending you like story stuff.

Speaker 2 15:18

Family sent me the actual post of this situation that I was like.

Scandal Involving Japanese Idol Yuichi Nakamaru

Speaker 1 15:23

I think all I said to you was he cheated on his wife, and everybody knows what we're going to talk about now. Well, maybe not everybody, but a lot of people know where we're going with this.

Speaker 2 15:36

If you're listening on the podcast, you know very much how much I loved this man and we had just posted.

Speaker 1 15:46

That morning, we had just put up our rants and ramblings where we were talking about how, like, oh my God, and when he blindsided us with his marriage that boy and oh yeah, well, he just blindsided us again, it's just.

Speaker 2 16:02

Dang. First I'm all like, oh my God, he's married Whatever. And now this I'll just have to say, wasn't me he didn't cheat with me I mean, I don't condone cheating anyways you know. No, that's just awful. Um so, yes, we're going to talk about yuichi nakamoto ofatoon, who was my favorite. I don't condone any cheating whatsoever, even if he was dating her. I do not condone that. That's just awful.

Speaker 1 16:40

Oh yeah, no definitely.

Speaker 2 16:42

But the man announced his marriage in January and this comes to light.

Speaker 1 16:56

So Bunshun reports that they have spotted nakamaru and this young lady coming out of a hotel. Which kind of hotel? Miss sarah, it's apa or apa hotel. Okay, um, yeah, they're. They're sort of like the, the low end, you know, and stuff we have here they're inexpensive. It's a room. That's what you need, right.

Speaker 2 17:14

I don't know how good this hotel is, but it's not a love hotel I shouldn't have said that name.

Speaker 1 17:19

What the APA? No, no, I can say APA because they've announced that Me comparing it to hotels here.

Speaker 2 17:27

Oh, Are you going to bleep it out?

Speaker 1 17:32

yeah, I'll have to, I'll have to bleep that out, but okay, but we do have the uh, pay-as-you-go kind of hotels here too yeah, they're not called I don't know if uh, apa, I guess, is sort of a step above that well, no, they call it a hotel.

Speaker 2 17:46

It's not a motel, right? Yeah, motels are usually paid by the hour, those are the shady ones, yes, so uh, I mean uh, at least he took her to a um, not a love hotel, I guess.

Speaker 1 18:01

Yeah, you know well I don't know, yeah, but see, and this is another one now, like because he was caught meeting her there. Now was this the first time, because just was it this morning or yesterday Something new came to light that she is the one who notified the news source to sort of be there to see it because supposedly he's been hounding her for a meeting that he that he has requested a meeting several times now.

Speaker 1 18:42

Like this is the problem with stuff like this. It's a he said. She said right, because I I'm not bashing her, but she could be looking for notoriety. Hey, I met this guy. He's famous. Now if I can trap him in a scandal, I can get some money, you know. I mean, there are people. There are people like that. I don't want to disparage this girl, so it's enough.

Speaker 1 19:02

This is another case like sugar. We don't know the whole story here, but like just the simple fact that he did this. Yes, that he did in fact meet anyone at a hotel. When he's a married man yeah, like you said, it's bad enough when people who are dating do this. But like he's married newly married you know and like, and unfortunately the marriage was so quick. We don't know the backstory to that either exactly. So there could be circumstances which, again, don't make it right, but we don't. We don't know everything that's going on there either exactly. You don't. You don't know what that relationship was either, and unfortunately, people who are unhappy usually, instead of just leaving the situation, stay in the situation and search for something else to right, like they need the backup before they leave. I've never understood. We worked with someone who did that.

Speaker 1 20:02

I was like yeah what is wrong with you?

Speaker 1 20:06

exactly you know if, if you're unhappy, just leave, exactly if, if this isn't fulfilling, you just leave, but like to go out and actively pursue someone else, to find someone else and then stay in both situations like I don't know. You know, I just don't. I don't understand that mindset. Yeah, so like, anyways, point being there may be all kinds of circumstances. We don't understand that mindset. Yeah, so like, anyways, point being there may be all kinds of circumstances we don't know, behind all of this Still doesn't make it right. It's very disappointing, yeah, in someone that we like so much.

Speaker 2 20:43

Yeah, Like admired, you know.

Speaker 1 20:46

And unfortunately this is not affecting only him.

Speaker 2 20:50

No, it's affecting the company. It's affecting the company.

Speaker 1 20:54

It's affecting projects. He voluntarily withdrew from activities, but I think the company was going to be like you're out. He's suspended, yeah, but luckily Catoon, as a group, has been pursuing solo activities. Oh yeah, they've all been doing their own thing, so it'll be a fairly easy transition for Ueda and Kaminesh, because they've been doing their own stuff anyway, yeah, all of them, all they've been doing their own project, but for fans, it's gonna be a harder hit because you know yeah the idea of cartoon is now just poof.

Speaker 1 21:30

Yeah, but you need no. I was like my first thought was probably like dude.

Speaker 2 21:35

What the f I think the bigger, the biggest. Like dang it was when your nino put that uh statement out there that they were gonna be uh hiatus on a hiatus yeah, which we love that word, oh, my god. Uh, well, you know, but they'll be posting some things, you know, but, um, they're gonna be taking a break yep well like I said nino, because those two have been buddies for a long time.

Speaker 1 22:02

You know that nino is just like dude. Yeah, they both do magic and, and you know, fuma fuma's like you broke my heart you broke my heart, dude.

Speaker 2 22:14

It's yeah, yeah, this is crazy. It is. This is crazy.

Speaker 1 22:18

We, we don't know well and he'd been doing I mean, he was doing so much stuff, he was doing his like how do you even have time, yeah, to do?

Speaker 2 22:26

he has his youtube channel when he does whatever, then he has a comic book, yep doing his manga, you know, and I don't even know the other YouTube thing.

Speaker 1 22:35

Yeah, you know he's been doing all kinds of when in the world? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 22:42

That's why I'm like. I'm like they're constantly doing something how it does not make sense. I know, yeah, I things how it does not make sense.

Speaker 1 22:58

I know, yeah, I don't know either and we don't know what the home situation is.

Speaker 2 23:01

You know, but again, doesn't excuse bad behavior, it doesn't you know if, okay, if the home situation was getting, I really can't stand you or whatever, if there were already issues going on in there. You know you still have time to annul your marriage.

Speaker 1 23:16

You know you haven't been married for a year yeah, there's, there's solutions other than exactly, I think, if if there was, you know, on unhappy situations with them each other, I think definitely an annulment would have been much better than this happening yeah you know him finding another person to I don't know feel happy with pursue exactly because, like I said, according to the, the latest news, this woman said that he had just been sort of requesting this type of meeting, I guess several times, like repeatedly. But you know, if that's the case, don't call the news, call his wife, exactly Because if you're not at fault, just call up and be like yo, tell your husband to leave me alone, point blank. So but we'll see, I you know.

Speaker 2 24:20

Okay, If that was the situation where this young lady you know this lady is young lady is being hounded by him, I would be like, if you don't f him back up, I will do something you know.

Betrayal and Disappointment in Idols

Speaker 1 24:36

I think they were saying it's yeah, I mean I, the article is not. We don't have a full story. They were just saying that she'd asked him to not bother her, basically, but he kept doing it. So she this. This is where I don't agree is because she agreed. Because if it were any other man, if it were just any other man, you don't need to call a news outlet and expose his entire life exactly, ruin his career. You would just be like I'm calling your wife or I'm calling the police, and I know that even even here, you don't always, as women, we don't always get action when we complain about inappropriate male behavior towards us right so maybe she felt like this was the only way she could get it dealt with right.

Speaker 1 25:22

And luckily he was someone famous, so the news would be interested in it how come you don't you know, especially in japan?

Speaker 2 25:28

how can you don't you know, especially in Japan? How can you not know who you know Right?

Speaker 1 25:31

That's what I mean. So you know, but again, we don't. We don't know all sides of the issue in the story and either way, whether he was pursuing her relentlessly or this was like a mutual hey, let's get together. And you know, whatever? Just bad, bad decision. Yeah, two of our favorite boys on the same day. Yeah, bad making bad decisions. All that news broke here for us on the same day and it was just like what apologies were thrown out there and I'm like what the hell?

Speaker 2 26:05

I was like nakamaru was the one that broke my heart. I'm like I felt betrayed, I was sad, I was like, what lies? You were feeding me lies. And I'm like, no, you know you. I know they're idols and you know their thing is to get you enamored by you know, by them, and you know, because that's how their livelihood is, and I'm like, but I just did not want to believe those lies of him being tender and just, compassionate and honest and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 26:40

He may be, he can still be all that.

Speaker 2 26:44

No, not by this.

Speaker 1 26:46

So people make bad decisions, you just do Mm. Hmm, everybody's human. You can still be compassionate and be unhappy in your marriage, and everyone who cheats isn't inherently just a rotten person. They're not just bad people, it's just bad decisions. Unfortunately, this what happens?

Speaker 2 27:07

this happens and all that stuff that I thought of him is no longer. He's not a cheater, dishonest, not compassionate because.

Speaker 1 27:15

So now he kicks puppies and knocks over old people. This is what I mean. He's not an evil person, and you know. Now think of this. His wife.

Speaker 2 27:24

Yes, he's an evil person. Who's hurt here is her. You don't have compassion for your wife. You go out cheating he's not compassion no, think of that. I'm not talking about puppies or whatever.

Speaker 1 27:37

We're not talking about that. We're talking about a human being.

Speaker 2 27:40

He's not thinking about the other human being. If he was compassionate about you, know I can't.

Speaker 1 27:46

He'd have just left, yeah exactly, so there you go.

Speaker 1 27:49

Well, I said that earlier. But what I'm saying is it doesn't mean he's devoid of compassion, he's just. At that moment he was completely selfish. He was thinking only of himself and his own happiness. Yeah, I think everybody has a moment where they are completely selfish and their compassion goes out the window for other people. It happens. I think I'm not saying it's right and it's. You know, you can have your very discipline. I think you loved him a little more than I did. I do hello.

Speaker 2 28:20

Okay, this is. This is a group that has gone through, like she shows. From the beginning we had yeah, there were six members.

Speaker 2 28:28

That went down to three, three biggest scandals, like two people like in love, and then the other one with the uh drug issues and it's like and of course the one I like will have the drug issues, and I'm like, dang it, why do I fall for the bad boys? And then nakamaru comes out to be sweet and whatever, and I'm like, you know why I love him and you know he's so sweet, see, I think my, my love for him was because he was like such a dork.

Speaker 1 28:53

Yes, yes, he was so dorky, nerdy, cute. But I didn't have the deep love. Well, because you know of that whole thing, yeah, out of Cattoon he was not my ultimate favorite. Right Out of Yonino, he wasn't my ultimate favorite, you know. But I loved him for different reasons. Right, and, like I said, I am not saying what he did was right at all, I'm not saying how he acted was good. I am disappointed. Just like Shoga he's not the first and he's not the last. Who's going to do this Right? So?

Speaker 2 29:26

you're that kind of fan. I'm the fan who is betrayed, who is sad and heartbroken. Okay, I am that fan You're that?

Speaker 1 29:33

Wow, I am that fan, you're that? Wow I didn't realize your adoration of Nakamaru was that strong. I am deeply disappointed in him.

Speaker 2 29:41

for sure I wrote a letter to Nakamaru. I told Sarah I wrote a letter to Nakamaru on my lunch break. I really poured it down because just how bad I felt. I'm like call them every name of the book and just put it there, rip out the page and just put it in the recycle bin. Because it's the only way it's the only way I can you know? I mean, I'm still gonna be like.

Speaker 1 30:06

Just so everybody knows she's crying, she is crying. She really is this upset about Nakamaru.

Speaker 2 30:12

Yeah.

Speaker 1 30:18

And I'm like we're gonna leave nakamaru till then. Like I said, I am deeply, I am deeply disappointed, but there are also yeah, I do also understand there are reasons that people do these things. They are not necessarily good reasons, they are not an excuse, they don't make it okay, but they're. Like I said, everybody, everybody has a moment where you do, you are just thinking of yourself and at times there are reasons that it's important that you do that. We talk about self-care, so if you are completely unhappy and you are completely at a loss for how to do things, you're going to take care of yourself Leads to bad decisions, or it can. It does. In this case, it definitely did. How to do things you're gonna take care of yourself leads to bad decisions, or it can. It does it. In this case, it definitely did. We don't know where his head was at, we don't know what prompted this. I still don't even know how the hell he had time.

Speaker 2 31:07

But yeah, you know again another one, another side swipe yeah, married side swipe yeah, cheating side swipe. Married Side swipe yeah, cheating Side swipe. I'm like what is extreme with you, nakamaru?

Speaker 1 31:21

He can't do things gently and slowly. He's like it's happening. Bam, I'm like what I'm just going to hit you with this Bam.

Reflections on Idols and Emotions

Speaker 2 31:30

So. So, yes, no, I'm that kind of fan, you're that kind of fan you're that kind of fan.

Speaker 1 31:39

I'm in the older spectrum, I'm the, I think it's. I think it's because I just in a lot of situations I I don't want to see it as just right and wrong, because we we don't know everybody's story, we don't know everybody's reason for what they do, so I don't want to just immediately.

Speaker 1 31:54

I mean I definitely I definitely do have my moments where I just judge people. I'm like, oh you, whoa, that was so wrong, yeah. But like, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I guess I don't know there's levels and grades of of how I think it, and and again, when I don't know everything that's going on, I don't want to just jump to. He's an evil piece of dirt. I want to. Well, he's definitely wrong. Yeah, he is definitely wrong for me.

Speaker 2 32:18

I'm like, yeah, he's dead for me no and I'm really yeah, it's bad um a lot of fans were so old listeners were sending me dms.

Speaker 2 32:28

They're like you know, did you panic? You, okay, did you panic? And I'm like I'm just gonna say this, I'm sad and heartbroken, that's all I'm gonna be saying. Uh, because you know, I, when that news happened, people were sending me the m. Oh my god, come on. Oh my god, I'm like I'm not gonna say too much, I'm just still processing the news. I'm still processing what's going on.

Speaker 2 32:50

I'm, I'm in, yes, I'm in shock. It's like, you know, something happens. You're in shock and you're just like like something's going on and your brain and my brain was going off and whatever. And then I had to like take, need some time to process and like really like look at different type of news to see, like what's out there. So, yeah, now I'm at the moment that I am that pissed, that disappointed, that heartbroken, because I have processed and read a lot of the situation. You know what's going on. So when it first came out, I'm like, oh my God, nakamaru, so I was still in shock and nothing has actually processed very well. Now I'm in the fury. You know, like that's why you're like damn, I didn't know. And I'm like, no, no, because I needed time to process my feelings for him.

Speaker 1 33:38

Well, no, but, like I said, I mean oh, oh. So even you didn't realize how deeply you cared about him until he did this and you felt betrayed. Okay, I got you. Okay, I got you. I got you okay because I wasn't I wasn't even sort of like, subconsciously at that level of attachment to him. I, I loved him as like a personality and he was cute and funny you know what I mean. Like he had a place like that for me. But you know, in terms of like cartoon, I already had another favorite who broke my heart years ago. So so you know how you felt. And, and with you Nino, you know Yamada and Fuma is a close second as being my boys.

Speaker 1 34:20

And I mean Nino is just Nino.

Speaker 2 34:24

No, nino is just playing video games, playing with his daughters, being busy acting a lot. He's a family man.

Speaker 1 34:31

You know, like the thing with his relationship is, we'd already heard about that, yeah, years prior.

Speaker 2 34:39

Right.

Speaker 1 34:39

We knew, you know, there were rumors and there were sightings and there was this and there was that, and it had been a while before they actually got married. Like Nakamaru, I was like who even knew? He like knew women, yeah. So it was like. So when they were like he got married, we were like, what you know, and maybe it's different in japan, maybe they had a little more news about it right like here.

Speaker 2 35:03

It just was like boom married and now just to let you know that in kachun nakamaru is kind of like the third person, because when kamenage came out like he's dating blah, blah, blah, everybody's like, oh my god, you know, uh, you know but he was only dating.

Speaker 2 35:22

Yeah, but that's just to tell you he's a bit more popular within cartoon. Um, the same thing with weta. So with nakamaru, if they saw him dating is just like I don't know, okay, and he's not really, you know, newsworthy until he gets married like you know, I don't know. This is just me thinking, you know. But uh, I think within cartoon kamanashi is like number one.

Speaker 1 35:48

Yeah, then we have weta and then number three will be gonna come model yeah, well, when they were in their heyday it was definitely kamanashi and jinn akanishi.

Speaker 2 35:57

They were the like they were like the fuma the fuma and kenti like there was a major, you know, head clashing, right, so yeah, but I mean, we have seen kamanashi work and he's like, especially when it comes to acting, he, he really deeply goes into character yeah.

Speaker 2 36:19

There was a oh for right on time. They were doing the segment on Catoon and they were following Kaminash and they were following on one of his acting roles and at one point he was just walking, pacing up and down and the camera was behind him and he goes not now. He gave this face of like get the fuck out of my face, you know. Like not now. Nope, I'm preparing myself into character. So they had to like meekly back up and just feel him from far away while he was just getting himself ready for that scene, sort of apologizing.

Speaker 1 36:59

You know, I just I was in my zone dude yeah you know when he sat down later and he's like I just I need to focus and be where I'm at. So that's who I am. Yeah, with those eyebrows.

Speaker 2 37:14

Yes, those snatch eyebrows.

Speaker 1 37:18

Oh yeah, all right. So there at least All right, we've made a, we've brightened up a little before this.

Speaker 2 37:24

So if Catoon's still around, my favorite is going to be Weta, the one who I fear the most. I think that's why I fear him the most, because he's I don't know. Okay, weta, you're number one now in my heart. He's easing her heartbreak. He's gonna be like no, I don't want to be.

Speaker 1 37:45

Well, I was gonna say the way he's kicking everybody's butts and, oh my god, hauling them off to I don't even know where making statements of like.

Speaker 2 37:54

The next naniwa danshi will be the pudding pudding boy his next victim.

Speaker 1 38:00

I know he's like it's become this whole thing. I think you know it was one little incident and now it's turned into this thing. Yeah, like who's a waiter gonna get next?

Speaker 2 38:13

oh my god, that time that he took raul and put him over his shoulder and I'm like how can you do that? Raul is taller than you.

Speaker 1 38:19

And he's like, I'm like, have you, I'm like oh my God, you have seen how Oueda is built. I know I have. He's like Boom.

Speaker 2 38:39

He's a machine, he is not tiny little package, but he is solid. He's not human, not human. That's why I'm like, I'm so scared of where I?

Speaker 1 38:43

because I don't know well, I think, because I think I'm the same height as waiter. That's why I was saying tiny little pack it's he, wow, yeah.

Speaker 2 38:54

When I saw yeah, I'm like oh my god, where I took raul over his shoulder like nothing sort of just raul, just sort of had to lean over his shoulder. I know, I'm like thinking he can wear raul like a scarf. You know, wow, jeez, oh man, I'm like we're not trying to put me over your shoulder, no, don't. No, you never scratch that out, please, that's not to happen anyways all right okay thank you.

Speaker 2 39:36

Like I said, now we've okay, we've ended on a more cheerful note okay, now my tears out of joy because I'm making fun of weta anyways. Thank you everybody for listening to this rants and rambling who is just? We have gone up and down with this roller coaster.

Speaker 1 39:52

I was gonna say yeah, this was an emotional especially towards the end.

Speaker 2 39:56

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Speaker 1 40:01

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Speaker 2 40:18

Oh, my goodness, this is going to be our fourth year. This is our fourth year in December. Oh wow, I know, girl. Four years, four years of this, shenanigans, ups and downs With our favorites and whatnot.

Speaker 1 40:35

Wow, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 40:37

It's cool.

Speaker 1 40:38

Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 40:39

All right, so so until next time.

Speaker 1 40:42

I almost said it Same time as you. Yes, all right, bye-bye. Bye-bye, johnny.