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Music Elixir
Whispers and Wonders: The Celebrity Gossip Game
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Ever wondered what happens when a K-pop group like NewJeans decides to sever ties with their management? We explore the tumultuous journey of this popular group as they announce the end of their contract with ADOR and HYBE, stirring up a storm of speculation and legal curiosity. Our latest episode kicks off with our trademark banter and a spontaneous serenade, setting a lively tone before diving into the serious business of the music industry. We reflect on a past episode's hilarious misunderstanding of a "host club," reminding us all that laughter truly is the best medicine.
As the conversation heats up, we dissect the complexities surrounding NewJeans' decision, touching on the potential need for the group to reinvent themselves if they pursue independence. The entertainment industry isn't always as glamorous as it seems, and we delve into how young artists navigate these tricky waters. We also chat about the mixed reactions to K-pop's involvement in traditionally Japanese music festivals, shedding light on cultural dynamics and the evolving music scene. Our discussion takes us around the globe, from the vibrant showcases in Puerto Rico to Japan's glittering year-end events.
But the episode doesn't stop there! We venture into the murky waters of celebrity rumors, focusing on the enigmatic Ohno Satoshi and the relentless gossip machine. We stress the importance of credible sources while indulging in a bit of speculative fun. As we wrap up, we invite you to join our comedic journey, urging you to rate, review, and share the podcast. Whether you're in it for the laughs, the insights, or the surprising twists, this episode promises to entertain and engage with our unique blend of humor and fandom.
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OK ASIA
hello everybody. Welcome to another episode of music Elixir with me Sarah Ann.
Speaker 2Miss Panic, miss Panic Dun dun dun Alright.
Speaker 1Music by Sarah. Yeah, I don't know where I keep, just Stuff pops in my head and I sing it on out.
Speaker 2According to Sarah, I do need my own fanfare.
Speaker 1Well, everybody does. Everybody needs their own fanfare.
Speaker 2I don't give you one, well, you start everything yeah.
Speaker 1I can give myself one With me. There you go, sarah. With me, dun-da-da-da. There you go, sarah. Yeah, all right. So Rants and Ramblings time yes, right. Yes, we're recording on November 30th Because there's some news Coming to you from the past, from the past.
Speaker 2Just letting you know there was a Rants and Ramblings that we dropped. That started kind of depressed. No, yeah, was it depressing? Yeah, it was annoying.
Speaker 1Well, it was just yeah, a bunch of like not so good news going on everywhere.
Speaker 2It was frustrating. Frustrating news, yeah, and then we ended up with a very I guess, very happy for Sarah. Well, we just laughed our butts off the whole ending of it you know, I was re-listening to that and then I was like I'm reading it, why it didn't dawn on us that it was a host club. And then, until later on we're like, oh, it was a host club. And then until later on we're like, oh, it is a host, we have low blood sugar, or something I don't know.
Speaker 1Well, it's because we don't call it that here no like any type of situation like that tend to be called escorts or right?
Speaker 2yeah, I guess generally just really host club gigolos yeah, exactly gigolos um escorts, just like you said strippers and they're not clubs.
Speaker 1It's not an organized setting where you go hang out with these people like it's a more one-on-one personal setup. As far as I know, I have never hired an escort or a gigolo, so I'm not 100 sure, but I I don't know of clubs, I don't know up here I know in florida there used to be this free paper that will have, like you know, and then on the back it has the um, yeah you can.
Speaker 1Actually there was one up here, but there still wasn't a setting where you went and had these experiences, right? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2somebody will go to an agent and be like I'm looking for an escort. Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 1These are people who are actually advertising their services yeah, so when we hear host we think of like game, okay, I'm your host.
Speaker 2DJ Panic. You know, maybe I should get paid Minus the drinkies. I can't hold my drink, no anymore.
Speaker 1But you know, so yeah.
Speaker 2But their host is totally different. So yeah while I kept reading the article I was like, oh, he's a, he's that kind of host. They were cracking up. Oh my god, oh my god so yeah, we did pretty much. We laughed the whole last like 20 minutes of that, I'm like, wow, am I the thick-headed? You don't even get it towards the end.
Speaker 1I'm like, oh, oh, my god yeah, well, it was something you read and I was like, oh wait, like as a host, host, like, because I had said some game show, a variety show. But yeah, something you said clicked oh wait, oh oh.
Speaker 2Host Got it. Oh man, If you have not checked that episode, please go back.
Speaker 1Laugh to us. Laugh about us, or whatever laugh with us, laugh at us.
Speaker 2I wonder how many people are like what? Oh, now I don't. I knew that it was a host anyways. Well, at least we started happy tune, but are we uh? So sarah and I have been following the news on uh new jeans and on november 28th the quintet have actually made um assembled in emergency um press press press conference press release yeah to you know, let them know what's going on with them, just to say that they were exterminating or canceling.
Speaker 1Let's say yeah, ending their contract.
Speaker 2Ending their contract with Adore and Hype because they have not met their needs. Apparently, on November 13th the group have actually set out a list of, I want to say, demands from the agency that they have not comply. You know they have not promised, you know, produce for the group.
Speaker 1Yeah, they haven't delivered on certain things, right, I'm just wondering, like how valid is them saying we're ending our contract because it sort of doesn't really work? Like you don't just get to say, well, you know what contract's done, I'm, I'm done with it. Like there's usually a penalty you can buy out of your contract. You can break the contract and go to court. You know the company can try suing you for money you should have earned on their behalf through the contract and stuff like that. Or if they're just meaning when this contract is up they're not renewing it, like we're ending our association, yeah that's.
Speaker 2I have some questions. I'm reading on articles and I can't find anything as of they're not renewing as of whatever date, but and I also don't know if they have a lawyer representing the girls, because if they still under contract, you need still need a lawyer. But, um, they have a list of things that I guess, like I said, adore has not delivered. So I'm reading this from soompi and so the so I'm gonna read this. On november 29th, new jeans media representative released at the full response for adore to the certification of contents sent by new jeans on november 13th. So the girls already have sent out. Listen, this is what we need for you, from you.
Speaker 2Uh, previously, new jeans had announced during a press conference on november 28th that they will be making the document fully public, fully public. Oh, so the 26-page document contains Adore's responses to New Genes demands, which include the following topics Identifying and taking action against the person who decided and instructed to abandon New Genes. That's one. Two, an official apology from the manager of b lift lab, who made remarks involving hanny saying ignore her three, one of the things we talked about right so something about abandoning new jeans?
Speaker 2okay, so three measures regarding inappropriate remarks made by a high pr staff member. Geez, yeah, that's. This is now a can of worms. Everything's coming out.
Speaker 1I think the that first point has to do with min hee jin being removed, like they weren't so much abandoned as it was like people were forced out and they were left with no backup, no representation. Basically, the the person on their side was removed, so they're sort of okay. I think that might be what that's referring to.
Speaker 2I don't know more continuing with the list deletion of videos and photos of new genes used without content. Assessing and addressing the damage new genes suffered due to album push-out. Resolving the dispute with director shing wu suk of dolphins films and the issue of existing projects disappearing. Preserving New Year's unique identity and works and, lastly, here, reinstating former CEO Min Hee Jin. So yeah, and let's see. Continuing with the article from Soompi. Below are the summarized responses from Adore to the corresponding demand stated above uh, the statement abandoned new was meant to suggest that less that a femme should read should establish his own unique realm rather than being grouped with new genes and ivy uh with the abandoned new new jeans.
Speaker 1Okay my, my legalese is a little uh lacking, so I don't know what number two response from uh.
Speaker 2The company um adore requests a meeting with the manager accused of saying ignore her, but Belief Lab refused.
Speaker 2Oh, interesting Mm hmm, continuing with Adore's response, adore urges Hive Coup or COO to verify the fact and prevent recurrence. Regarding the PR staff members' remark, let's see Adore is doing their best to resolve the issue of unauthorized photos and videos, although they are not the ones who distribute them. Okay, there was no album push out, that was a quick one, and the only video Adore raised an issue With director Shin Woo Seok Was the ETA director's cut. Adore supports the reappointment Of Min Hee Jin as an internal director To preserve New Jean's identity and ensure their activities. And, lastly, reinstating min he jin as ceo is currently not feasible. So those are the responses for that so, um, yeah.
Industry Challenges and Group Independence
Speaker 2Additionally, adore expresses their commitment to taking the best possible measure to meet new jeans demand and their hope to have a dialogue. However, new jeans, uh, dismissed adore's response as insincere and performative and state that they have no intention of meeting with Adore in the future. I mean yeah.
Speaker 1If you're not going to meet with them, how do you expect to get your demands met? It doesn't work that way, unfortunately. Yeah, you knew that was going to quickly develop into a shit show. Oh yeah, went from dumpster fire to shit show, because when you have a contract, you there's rules and there's things, and I know that that had been touched upon earlier.
Speaker 1In the whole, when all this stuff started happening, there were all these things about well, you can buy your way out of whatever for a kajillion dollars it's. It's not easy to get out of contracts.
Speaker 2You have to sort of oh yeah, unfortunately, when you're like this type of industry and you sign a contract, they pretty much own you and if you try to get away, you know definitely, yeah, you can, but you got to pay us this much because we pay for you. You know your dance instruction, your, your, your vocals, your, your, your, your costumes, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1Exactly, exactly. Promotions yeah, got your jobs, got your stuff to do, which I'm not sure so much, because there was something happened a couple of months ago. They were using footage without the right permissions and it was not presented and promoted from the beginning. Anyways, yeah, like we're gonna just sort of leave you off to do your own thing because we can't be bothered. But the minute they do something out of line, not according to the bigger company plan, suddenly they're like like you're in breach of your contract.
Speaker 2And I mean exactly.
Speaker 1So I think this has been sort of really a bad introduction for these poor young ladies to the world of entertainment and business. Entertainment business yeah, it's too bad, it really is too bad it is. They made good music and you know we enjoyed the stuff we heard yeah, they're a good group.
Speaker 1They're popular, they have a very large fan base, um, a lot of people support them. And then, of course, there's a lot of people who are like quit being cry babies. You know, I mean, you always have those right. So it's a very weird divide I've noticed when you look at sort of all the stuff online. People are either fully behind them and supportive or like everything they've done is wrong. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2It's very strange and, yeah, like you said, some people are calling them cry babies and other people are just like no, no, support the girls.
Speaker 1This is something that you know, and I think I don't know, was it in that article? I was reading somewhere that like they may have to change their name because if they do break the contract, if they do leave the, the name actually belongs to the company. So unless they're lucky like G-Dragon was and somebody is like, well, they're new jeans, g-dragon was, and somebody's like well, they're new genes, let them have it, they might have to change their name if they, if they are even able to continue. I mean, this has been such a big mess it's like hard to say who's gonna pick them up or keep going or try to revitalize what's going on within a door. You know, are they going to try and rework things, talk stuff out? It's? It's been such an ugly, nasty mess that I am I feel really bad for the girls because you know it was looking so good for them.
Speaker 2And now there's uh one, there's one sentence here where it says that after their termination, they also state their intention to pursue independent activities. Moving forward.
Speaker 1As a group or individual.
Speaker 2No, it just says independent activities.
Speaker 1Okay, that could be independent from the company as a group still, or it could be individual pursuits.
Speaker 2But then if you're thinking, you know if they're going independent, meaning just the five of them, uh, they do need a new name, because that new jeans is just that's a door's name unless they can work something out.
Speaker 1Yeah, they're, and they're. At this point, that means starting from the bottom again. Yep, starting all over exactly.
Speaker 2But if they're that popular and they still have that, if their fans are behind them 100, if they go let's say they go for another company you know they're gonna be popular, you know oh yeah, you're the fan when fans are true fans.
Speaker 1Yeah, they'll follow you anywhere. They'll go through anything with you just look at all the bands we've followed all all our lives going through changes members getting fired, kicked out oh yeah girl we're still with you. We're still with you we're still fans.
Speaker 2What else is going on in the k-pop world?
Speaker 1well, I was gonna say I can't find it now, oh did I save it. I wonder if I saved it. Well, there was something. There's, um, there's been some sort of mixed reaction to one of the coming up like year-end festival things going on in japan. Okay, because there there's actually like 15 k-pop groups who are going to be part of it as well and people are having like mixed feelings about that oh, I know that this one you're talking about, I saw yeah yeah, I'm like did I save it, but I, I was looking, I was like I'm trying to think, you know, I understand, like if it's traditionally a japanese, you know music festival thing you want to
Cross-Cultural Music Collaboration Discussion
Speaker 1but like, in a way, there's so many large fan bases for a lot of these k-pop groups that you would think people would be okay incorporating that because it would, as far as the tv station or the music stage, whatever they're going, to get more viewers, viewers or listener, you know, more people interacting with it. I just I was sort of surprised at how vehement some of these people were about like well, you can't, you can't have k-pop groups. It's like wow, because considering the popularity, especially of groups like txt, which I know was one of of the groups going, I was just sort of surprised. And I can't remember I don't know if I saved it, because I remember just being like wow, and I think it's because here we have so many big music shows, so many big things, and people from all over the world come and it's like you just tune in for the ones you want to watch and you don't have to tune in for the ones you don't want to, exactly like you know.
Speaker 1But yeah, I didn't save it. Oh, I'm so annoyed with myself because I was surprised there were going to be a bunch of k-pop acts in it, but then I was like, well, isn't that a good thing? And the fan bases have really been sort of split on exactly whether or not they like that idea. It's just crazy, especially because you know we just had, like aiba went to south korea to hang out with jin, and you know what I mean. People have been like akka just worked with jin, you know maybe they just crossover.
Speaker 2I've been like I just worked with gin, you know maybe they just cross over things. Some fans are like, yeah, that's okay, but not on our TV. We don't want to see you on our TV show, on our, our music. We don't want to see all this on our music fest for the you know like yeah, one 30 minute.
Speaker 2You know, blur of your Japan is a very, very heavy tradition. You know, heavy driven country, not like Puerto Rico, doesn't have it, we don't either. But what I have seen, you know or experienced through online, of course, because I've never been there, but what I have seen is just a very culture based and there's like OK, so this is the year end for Japan. We just only have Japan bands and groups and you know our people representing yeah, you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2Well, the same thing in Puerto Rico, now that I'm thinking Our year end show is. Usually both Spanish groups, yeah, but I mean we'll do have from like Dominican Republic, maybe one from Cuba and you know, some Latino Americans. You know they're still Spanish, but I don't know.
Speaker 1Yeah, but don't they all sort of have their own cultural standards and sets? You know what I mean, Right, but I mean it's singing and dancing.
Speaker 2Just having fun is a year-end thing.
Speaker 1That's sort of how I was thinking of it. So I was like, if it's just a celebration and you just you know it's got, it's got a lot of people like split right down the middle about yeah some people want it to be only japanese artists and other people are like we don't mind having, uh uh, different artists other than japan.
Speaker 2oh yeah, I can't find that blur. I wonder if they took it. They might have Because there was so many.
Speaker 1Yeah, it was getting intense, I know, because now all I'm finding is like the show that Aiba's going to be hosting and, as in the MC, aiba, my host, what, he's going to be the MC, what Aiba's a host, he's gonna be the mc. Now we're not gonna be able to say host, yeah, girl, no, no, but wow. But the lineup for the show he's mcing for it's two days yeah, no, the uh everybody the uh fsfns yeah kayo say it's?
Speaker 2yeah, I think isn't. It. Isn't this his second or third year?
Speaker 1yeah, he's been doing it for a few right, oh my god, look at him he looks, I know, but I mean that that's quite a lineup, wow hello they're even gonna have hello kitty.
Speaker 2I know it's huge talking about celebrate without the puerto rican party. Come on, look at this. They're really, I mean, all kinds of groups.
Speaker 1Wow yeah, a lot of the this is getting us as big as mm-hmm wow kumikoda. I'm reading the j01. Yeah, j soul brothers, rampage number I timeless nizi u uh perfume, awesome, oh, my god perfume. Yeah, ini imp. Wow, king and prince generations gem, yeah, gonna be the super eight.
Speaker 2Wow naniwa danshi, yeah it's a whole day thing's a whole night thing.
Speaker 1Wow that's awesome. Yeah, no, I I saw clips from him doing it a couple years ago, probably last year too managed to see it I want to see it I know right, we don't get to see all these right well, we gotta find out one of those vpns, whatever I call it.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, to just like watch the show. Oh yeah, I was able to see a buck tech thing with that.
Speaker 1I'm like oh oh, like a special screening, special streaming no, it was on an actual tv show. This was for his passing.
Speaker 2Oh, okay so, uh, one of the fans, one of the fish tankers, sent me a link, just like you can watch this with a vpn. I'm like, thank you. So, uh, I got the link of the show and I was like, yeah, so that was cool, awesome. Okay, now I'm making it down because it's been a year since his passing. Anyways, let's move on to another thing.
Speaker 2You're so cute moving on to ibar, okay, and uh, one, okay, rock. Hey, yeah, jen, that's gonna be dropping up. That didn't drop this weekend. Yeah, it did, it's already out. Ah, dang it did.
Speaker 1I missed it. I think I did. You must have it's um falling. Is the song right, jen featuring taka right, even though taka and toru helped write the song right itself and jen did too, jen did they all worked together on it, but there's a version that taka is singing as well. Right, and it's. It's a. Really I like the song, I like it a lot.
Speaker 1It's very good that's awesome and it was so cute because, like taka, waited until after it was out to before he was like. So I did this thing working with jen, you know. It was really awesome because, yeah, everybody. Well, I had looked at the credits and I was like, could this be like how many taka and toru's do you know? I know right, so so I already knew that are working together right in music, right so.
Speaker 1So I already knew it was coming out, but, like he was, he was so respectful about waiting for the song to actually be out. Let Jin have his moment of having his song out. And then Taka was like so I did this thing, you know, and he was just talking about how, thinking of people in the music world that you'd want to work with, and he's like people in the K-pop world that I wanted to work with and like Jin would have really been the last person I'd have ever thought taco would say right I would have expected him to be like maybe j-hope and sugar right, but I I would not have expected so that was jen.
Speaker 2That's so cool. That is so cool about this gin album. You know, right, different collaborations and you know he's. He's like well, worldwide handsome, why no worldwide musician?
Speaker 1yeah, you know, let's collaborate well and sort of stepping out of his I wouldn't say comfort zone but sort of where they've always kept him. He's the voice that sings the, the heart wrenching. You know what I mean. Most of his stuff is really very emotional and this was really all about like just having fun, kicking back, check, trying out his voice with different things, not just being the melodic torch bearing singer. He's like having fun. But it was funny. My sister and I were talking about the song falling and I was saying how I was sort of a little surprised by it because it was more poppy sounding than I would have expected. When you say working with one, okay, rock and rachel.
Speaker 1She's like, well, you know, she's like one okay, rock is sort of a little more towards the poppy side of rock, like they've got that edge, she's like, but they've got that sort of pop, not so much tempo, but that's uh, what was the word she used? And I was like, god, you know, you're right. Actually, when you think about what they're doing, they're not like heavy metal screaming, no it's. It's more refined, even though it's got an edge to it. So I was like, yeah, you know, thinking back, there are some of their songs that are a little more poppy. There are some of their songs that are a little more poppy. Like, when I listened to them, I was like the reason it sort of clicked in my brain with them was because I was like, oh, this has elements of something else that I'm not expecting.
Speaker 1So it stands out, you know, and so yeah, Anyways, I was just 1OK Rock has completely have.
Speaker 2The older they get, their sound has been changing, as you know. The have. The older they get, their sound has been changing, as you know.
Speaker 1The beginning of one on k rock.
Speaker 2Taka was all about this creamo and they were just heavy gut-wrenching, it was just edgy.
Speaker 1Yeah, well, you know, you think influences like lincoln park, who did a lot of so it.
Speaker 2yeah, right now they're kind of refining their voice. But also, taka has made in the past a lot of complaints of losing his voice, so he had to reinvent his singing style so he can continue doing what he loves. And the screamo lifetime? Well, I think not everybody can pull it till the the end of time, you know oh yeah, no, absolutely not but also sort of redirecting and channeling their.
Speaker 1Instead of just like being angry about stuff and and wanting to yell about it, they're like we can tell you about this message in a musically complex way and not have to shout it at you you know what I mean we can, we can present this.
Speaker 1It's still epic because, like, if you think about luxury disease, that album was like so I don't know musically so intense and so it was complex. There was a lot going on with that and the sounds ranged very much throughout that, which again was one of the the reasons it sort of gelled with me and clicked with me, because I was like, oh wow, this has so many elements of so many other things I like and I think that that's as you said, they're getting older, they're sort of like, let's sort of they're changing redirect and navigate our way through this in a way to get as broad an appeal as possible right, and yeah, they're
Speaker 1evolving yes, musicians, like we like to see that we like to see, but you gotta figure someone someone who is friends with matamoto june, from arashi was bound to jinn fits right, oh yeah jen fits right in.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, he's the the goofy older I would like to see. I would like to know if maybe jen is an oration, but he just never said it.
Speaker 1Well, they had talked about working together before they had all been. I don't think they were actually on a stage together, but they were doing like a live stream thing and they talked about wanting to meet in person together. Okay, which led me to actually, after I read that, because they were like it was really good to work with you, we should do it in person sometime I was like I would love to see an ono and j-hope dance-off. Wow, yes, because they're both very good at multiple dance styles, but they both do choreography. They both worked on what their groups did dance-wise. So I was like, oh, that would be. I mean, I know Ono's an old guy at this point 44-year-old?
Speaker 2I don't know, but it's.
Speaker 1Ono Versus the how old's J-Hope 30?.
Speaker 2No, he is 30. He just turned 30 this year Right J-Hope is the second oldest.
Speaker 1No, is it Jin Jin Suga? Oh yeah, j-hope. Okay, rm, but he turned 30 earlier this year, so there's a little bit of age gap. But I just thinking of the two guys who could do as many styles of dances, they both can Right, and they're both sort of like the top of where they were at. I just I was like I'd love to see that I want it I want it. I think everybody does Manifest it Yep.
Speaker 2Putting it out, there, putting it out there in the universe.
Speaker 1So yeah, Taka can work with Jin to opposing things. We could have Ono and J-Hope do a dance off, it's like.
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 1Keep bridging those borders and working together Definitely.
Speaker 2Now that you say Ono, because I think you were doing that on purpose to segue some news that we actually found out on November 30th. Do you want to talk about this first? I mean, do you want to introduce it?
Speaker 1Well, you sent it to me. I hadn't seen it While I was on my show Intriguing.
Speaker 2I was on that, you know, doing my OK Asia thing which, by the way, you know, if you were listening, on November 30th live. Anyways, while waiting, you know, while I'm playing music, I go online to check any news was going on. So when it's time for Sarah and I to meet, we're like, hey, hey, we need to talk about this, or I can just bring it up on air.
Speaker 2I saw this tweet x twitter which, by the way, anyways, okay anyways um start to have put out a post on x twitter saying, regarding this is a translation from google, just to let you know, because of course this is in japanese, because it's from the start to website regarding extreme, extremely defamatory articles and posts about our contracted talent.
Speaker 2That is the headline or the title of this Starto Entertainment news or announcement. Starto Entertainment, hereafter referred to as our company strongly denies the fact of false articles and posts about our contracted talent, satoshi ono, such as the arrest of ono for violating the cannabis control act, and will take legal action against these malicious articles and sns meaning social network services post on as defamatory acts. Uh, there is no fact that Ono has violated the Cannabis Control Act and he has not been arrested. Such baseless articles and posts are malicious and significantly lower Ono's social reputation, and we cannot overlook the widespread dissemination of these false articles and posts as if they were true. Our company is currently preparing to take legal action against these malicious articles and posts order to continue to protect the reputation of our talent. Our company will continue to take strict action, including legal action, against false articles and defamatory posts on sns, etc.
Speaker 1Together with our legal team this is just so weird because after I saw this, I was like what exactly happened? Right, because I haven't seen anything. So I was trying to look. The only thing I saw was and we've talked about it before it's like years ago. There were rumors about him. He'd been out at a party. There were photos from this party, blah blah blah, and claims that he had never knew. If any of it was true, that was the what 2006 seven, I mean years ago. I can't find anything current that anyone has said it. So I'm like what? Because this is a brand new and the fact that it specifically names him, yeah, as someone who's being targeted with something. I'm like where are these articles and what are they based on? Because, like the dude's just living his best life, like I say, hanging out fishing a social media platforms that are not here for the us yeah we're not gonna see it no, unless you go to like the no black market.
Speaker 2You know internet, which we don't do that. So I I wonder if it's that, yeah, um, well, you know there's a lot of asian platforms that we don't use.
Speaker 1You know, like weeaboo that's something I was gonna say, yeah, that's the chinese one right yeah, they've always had a field day with oho. Oh, like they're the ones who were doing all the rumors about him being married and living with this lady and, you know, having kids, and like they're always on ono's case. If, is that always?
Speaker 2I mean they're generalizing this platform that you say you know social network services? They're not. Yeah, no, they're not saying exactly which, specifically naming anyone. But I mean for on our end, like you said, because I know you're very vigilant when it comes to honor, you look everything, but so I didn't find anything. Even our, our asian friends that we follow, they don't have not posted anything. Yeah, besides just the announcement of this yeah, this you know.
Speaker 1Yeah, the only thing they've been talking about is the, the announcement from starto about this and you know all of these companies occasionally put out things about. We will not tolerate negative commentary on our artists and we will take legal action and stuff. But the fact that this is so specific, yeah, and, like I said, it's not the first time that someone has tried to say this about him and I don't know, like, what did ono ever do to anybody? Just so recent, it's just, it just happened. Yeah, I'm like he's, he's a cutie, patootie, he's super talented. He's like just let the guy live, he's just taking a break leave him alone trying to do his thing, you know.
Speaker 1So, like, why are you picking on my boy? Ono, leave him alone. And it's always with the cannabis. They're always trying to pin that on him, you know uh yeah, we don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2We haven't seen anything. Just the announcement that Star 2 have made. Like I said, if it's some social media networks, that it's not visible here in the US. I don't know, but just to let you know, star 2 is watching. Exactly, star 2 is watching and listening, and listening.
Speaker 1Yep.
Speaker 2I wonder if maybe somebody on maybe a YouTube channel?
Speaker 1We didn't look on YouTube, oh that's true, we've been seeing stuff on Twitter, oh yeah yeah, yeah, because there's a couple kind of skimy people on YouTube. We don't claim to be doing news, we're just talking. We would talk about this stuff amongst ourselves anyways. Right, so this is we're not like doing like news flashes, we're just like oh, we saw this in the news.
Speaker 2we talk about articles that have come out. I mean we, we even tell you where are we reading this from, so you can look as well. The whole new jeans thing, it's everywhere. We just grab an article and we talk about the article. We tell you our source, right like this one. This is from starto. We're telling you our source. Uh, where is how? Where you know?
Speaker 1but there's some youtube people. I've seen things where I'm like oh yeah, you, you read this, this headline, and then you see, it's just this youtuber, yeah, and you're like well, what's your like? They're not saying where they heard this from, they're just interjecting, you know yeah, they're speculating, or just you know, making it their own person q was seen out with person t and person w was feeling a certain way about it and you're like but who saw?
Speaker 2them where exactly? What are you talking about?
Speaker 1like, and they're basing it on a picture that's 10 years old. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2So you're like, so that's what I was like a blurry picture, mona the last and they just say, oh, they're so-and-so and so-and-so and I was like, what are they really them? So that's sort ofso, and I was like what?
Speaker 1are they really them? So that's sort of the safety. I was like, did someone come across the articles from 15 years ago about him? Like what's going on? I don't understand oh god, it's almost 20 years ago now 17 years let's just throw out a random number. But I was like, was it like old articles that they're trying to rehash just because they can?
Speaker 1I mean, I don't understand I don't get that either, as that's just you know and then, of course, because we one friend posted, but I saw other people when I was trying to search for anything else. I kept seeing the starto announcement attached to other people's things and some people were like, well, this is really bad and this could mean the end of the you know? Blah, blah, blah. And then somebody else was like leave the guy alone. Who cares?
Speaker 2like let him live his life and no, people see this announcement from start to and they start speculating things right and it's like no, this is did you read this. I mean, I'm reading the google translate, you know, and and it's like this is this is nothing about the group, this is about right but that's what I mean.
Speaker 1I was like you're doing exactly what they're telling you not to do.
Speaker 2This is the legal actions they're going to take on people who are talking. Excuse my French shit about UNO.
Speaker 1You know spewing garbage about UNO Right and this person. Basically, they're saying they believe whatever was being said Because they're like, well, this could affect everything. If it's true, well, they just said it's not true's not true. They said not true you all know.
Speaker 2You all know that is something is to happen to the talent. If there's a startle talent that has crossed the line, we all know they will come out. Hello nakamaru. Just give you an example, because it's the most recent. They will make a statement you know, so-and-so, because of yada, yada, will be taking a leave, or so-and-so will not be in this group because of blah, blah, blah. The company will tell you. So exactly. There is somebody, like I just said before, talking shit about ono, and they're like this is not true but like and like just why out of the blue?
Speaker 2yeah, leave the guy alone, baby blue and our ono he's blue, he yes, so he's just doing his thing Ono, Satoshi so well, you know, so weird Leave him alone.
Speaker 1But people yeah, they come up with stuff.
Speaker 2Like.
Speaker 1I said because I remember seeing it was always him. It was never, never show, never June. Like it was always him, he's secretly living with a girl.
Speaker 2You. I was like, wow, where are these things? I don't know, I don't know why.
Speaker 1Oh no, I don't know why maybe there were about showing june and it was just because, you know, oh no, it's my boy, so I noticed those more.
Speaker 2But but like, yeah, I think there was a rumor out there saying about Matsumoto Jun's bride. You even Google it and it's like Matsumoto Jun's wife.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, Well, that was the whole thing, I'm like what the hell, him and his co-star from the Hanayuri Dingo. Oh really Like they went out to lunch and the whole world was like they're having because she was. Either she had just gotten married or she was engaged or something, and they were like what are they doing? Right, that's what I need.
Speaker 2People like oh, my co-workers cannot go out and eat together.
Speaker 1You know, at a restaurant they'd worked on that series together for years and then did the final movie thing, you know. I mean like it was a long time they were working together. Right, they're not allowed to go have lunch without everybody speculating.
Speaker 2Well, if you said that she was married at the time or engaged. So of course you remember what married ladies cannot go out with men, even though it's their best friend. You know example iple I can throw in there the drummer for Maxim on the Horn Moon she went out with one of her guy friends and people are like, oh my God, how dare she. She is a mom and he's at home with the kids. What is she doing? Going out with men? It's like wow, can't she just hang out with members from other bands? They were all together. He was just escorting her so she wouldn't be alone and then she had to put an apology. I am so sorry for my misjudgment. I should have went out with my husband. I'm like, oh my God, anyways.
Speaker 2So, we're hoping, yeah, no, start to get them. I know it's not us. We love him. We just wow, this is crazy. Yeah, it is, you know, like we want to hear from him, but not this, not like this. This is, this is the thing. He is so quiet, you, he's like I am out of the limelight. I don't want to do none of that. I just want to live a civilian life Pretty much.
Speaker 1I want to be me, although I want to know. There were some photos. You know, obviously someone stalking him, maybe not. I was showing you there were some photos of him from maybe over the summer. He has a tattoo on his arm. Oh, I want to know if it's really his tattoo or did someone photoshop stuff like did I mean that's? I'm intrigued, I'm intrigued. I was like I would not have suspected ono of getting a tattoo. I'm okay with it, I'm perfectly.
Speaker 2I've got a tattoo I was gonna say something. I'm not gonna say anything because we're here defending Ono. I'll tell that to you later.
Speaker 1I already know what you're thinking.
Speaker 2I'm telling you off recording time.
Speaker 1Nope, my sweet boy, it's just art, he's an artist.
Speaker 2Tattoos are awesome. We have tattoos.
Speaker 1I got a tattoo, you got tattoos.
Speaker 2I guess it comes from a gaijin, but I was like I was really when I saw it.
Speaker 1I'm going when did he have? Because he did not have that a few years ago. It's got to be fairly recent.
Speaker 2Well, when he older pictures of him shirtless, I didn. We didn't see any, yeah that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1It's got to be fairly recent that was that own hiatus. So I can get tatted up I'm gonna come out all tatted up and he's, and he was super tan. You know he loves getting tan. I wonder if you're always giving him a hard time. You know we always think this is.
Speaker 2You know, I have there have been past episodes where I have talked about what I talked, about my dream of me going to okinawa to interview this, uh, folkloric dance teacher, and then it turned out to be oh no, I'm just thinking, because this is me and my gut feeling, that ono loves okina. That's where he's been staying all this time. That's why nobody can reach him, you know, because for some reason, for a lot of Japanese people, they think Okinawa is a complete different world. Well, anyways, so that's why he's like I'm going to the kind of most remote place of Japan. I'm going to Okinawa. I can do all the fishing I want I can do, you know, yeah, get my tan going on. So, I don't know, could be mary's tattoo place down in okinawa, I don't know well, I like the idea of him having a tattoo I do okay, no this is okay, this is just speculation.
Speaker 2This is just me talking. I'm thinking that orno said you know, I am an artist, I'm going to become a tattoo artist.
Speaker 1I'd go get one from him. Oh, me too I love his artwork.
Speaker 2Me too. Oh my God, that would be so awesome, I know wouldn't it. Get it for Orno, that would be. Oh my God, that would be so awesome, I know, wouldn't it. Get it Tat for Ono.
Speaker 1That would be, oh my.
Speaker 2God, y'all this is not true. Y'all this is just my wild imagination.
Speaker 1Speculation. This is just and it's not even. I wouldn't worry about it. It's not anything bad.
Speaker 2You know, just doing his art. This is one thing I always, always thought that Ono will be doing, like on his hiatus is just making art.
Speaker 1I saw him. He's just fishing, Fishing. He's being like the ultimate beach bum. That's that's my vision. He's like I want to be tan and fishing.
Speaker 2I'm going to quote the guys. He's walking his dog. He's a little pug. Yeah, he's a little pug. Yeah, he's a little pug Walking his dog. You know people ask him. So how's Omo? Oh, he's always walking his dog. That's why he's tan. He's always outside with his puppy.
Speaker 1Oh man, hey, and everybody you know you can listen to past episodes. I personally adore Ono. Panic also adores Ono, on a slightly lower level than me. Yes, I'm like insane, she likes it. I'm like Ono's the best.
Speaker 2Exactly. So, we would never say anything negative about him.
Speaker 1We defend him 100 even if he did something wrong, I'd still be like I don't care. Well, it all depends well yeah, let's amend that depending on exactly I wonder if he's gotten his driver's license no, he's not.
Speaker 2No, remember dino was like oh yeah, yeah, because he had to take a taxi.
Speaker 1He had to take a taxi, but he's. But he's got his boating license, hey that's different he can drive a boat, so there you go.
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Speaker 2He's like that's the only license I want, that's the only one that is important to him exactly as long as I can go out there fishing and survive on a boat, that's it all right. So let's end it right there, yeah all right.
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