{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":34.25,"endTime":36.29,"body":"Hello and welcome"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":34.25,"endTime":36.29,"body":"to another episode of gender"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":36.29,"endTime":39.559999999999995,"body":"stories I know I always say I'm"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":36.29,"endTime":39.559999999999995,"body":"excited is because I genuinely"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":39.589999999999996,"endTime":45.44,"body":"am excited every time and today"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":39.589999999999996,"endTime":45.44,"body":"I am very honored and excited to"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":45.44,"endTime":50.839999999999996,"body":"be introducing Aydian Dowling."},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":45.44,"endTime":50.839999999999996,"body":"Aydian is the co founder and CEO"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":50.839999999999996,"endTime":53.75,"body":"of TRACE. 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Elder is"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2885.03,"endTime":2890.01,"body":"such a hard word to play by"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2890.01,"endTime":2893.9700000000003,"body":"people have told me that. But I"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2890.01,"endTime":2893.9700000000003,"body":"think that's my answer. I don't"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2893.9700000000003,"endTime":2895.2000000000003,"body":"know if fashion"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2896.5800000000004,"endTime":2898.5600000000004,"body":"is great is"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2896.5800000000004,"endTime":2898.5600000000004,"body":"great. And I relate to that,"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2898.5600000000004,"endTime":2902.88,"body":"like, so I came out in 2009. So"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2898.5600000000004,"endTime":2902.88,"body":"I'm going on 14 years. And I'm"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2902.88,"endTime":2906.48,"body":"just like, every now and then"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2902.88,"endTime":2906.48,"body":"I'm just like, I hear a word."},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2906.48,"endTime":2909.8100000000004,"body":"And I'm just like, all right."},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2906.48,"endTime":2909.8100000000004,"body":"Okay, this is what we're doing"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2909.8100000000004,"endTime":2912.96,"body":"now. All right, let's do this."},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2909.8100000000004,"endTime":2912.96,"body":"Like and I'm like, I don't get"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2912.96,"endTime":2916.44,"body":"it. Like I feel like an old man."},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2912.96,"endTime":2916.44,"body":"I'm 36 not that old. But like,"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2916.65,"endTime":2920.46,"body":"I'm like, I don't fully"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2916.65,"endTime":2920.46,"body":"understand. But if that's what"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2920.46,"endTime":2924.96,"body":"you say, all right. I will"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2920.46,"endTime":2924.96,"body":"learn. I will learn what what"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2924.96,"endTime":2926.1600000000003,"body":"the hell you're talking about."},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2925.8,"endTime":2932.61,"body":"Like this gender"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2925.8,"endTime":2932.61,"body":"expansiveness is so beautiful."},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2932.6400000000003,"endTime":2935.88,"body":"Yeah, you know, and I'm like,"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2932.6400000000003,"endTime":2935.88,"body":"yeah, let it grow, let it expand"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2935.9100000000003,"endTime":2937.92,"body":"sometimes or"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2935.9100000000003,"endTime":2937.92,"body":"like go to pride and see a flag"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2937.92,"endTime":2940.6800000000003,"body":"and like I don't even know with"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2937.92,"endTime":2940.6800000000003,"body":"like that is but you wave that"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2940.6800000000003,"endTime":2943.4700000000003,"body":"flag. You get it? You know what"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2940.6800000000003,"endTime":2943.4700000000003,"body":"I mean? Like, you"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2942.8,"endTime":2955.79,"body":"Thank you, Alex,"},{"speaker":"Aydian Dowling","startTime":2942.8,"endTime":2955.79,"body":"for having me."},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2943.1400000000003,"endTime":2946.1820000000002,"body":"have to have like"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2943.1400000000003,"endTime":2946.1820000000002,"body":"a little cheat sheet. When I"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2946.248,"endTime":2950.349,"body":"teach. I'm like, I'm not gonna"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2946.248,"endTime":2950.349,"body":"remember all the flags. And I'm"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2950.415,"endTime":2954.1200000000003,"body":"sorry, but there are a lot. We"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2950.415,"endTime":2954.1200000000003,"body":"will learn we will learn."},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2955.79,"endTime":2958.13,"body":"I have"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2955.79,"endTime":2958.13,"body":"appreciated the conversation and"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2958.6400000000003,"endTime":2962.6600000000003,"body":"yeah, your your kindness and"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2958.6400000000003,"endTime":2962.6600000000003,"body":"your time. So thank you so much."},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2962.6600000000003,"endTime":2965.6600000000003,"body":"I really love this conversation."},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2962.6600000000003,"endTime":2965.6600000000003,"body":"Thank you for all you're doing"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2965.6600000000003,"endTime":2969.44,"body":"with Point of Pride and with"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2965.6600000000003,"endTime":2969.44,"body":"tres and those links are also"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2969.44,"endTime":2972.17,"body":"going to be in the episode"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2969.44,"endTime":2972.17,"body":"description for your listeners."},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2972.4700000000003,"endTime":2976.4300000000003,"body":"And so thank you so much Aydian"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2972.4700000000003,"endTime":2976.4300000000003,"body":"loved our time together, and"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2976.4300000000003,"endTime":2978.92,"body":"gender stories listeners and"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2976.4300000000003,"endTime":2978.92,"body":"watchers. Now if you're watching"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2978.92,"endTime":2982.28,"body":"on YouTube, thank you so much"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2978.92,"endTime":2982.28,"body":"for tuning in. And until next"},{"speaker":"Alex Iantaffi","startTime":2982.28,"endTime":2982.6400000000003,"body":"time,"}]}