Shia Snow- From Addiction To Internet Sensation (Unfiltered)

In this episode of Coffee and Cleavage, Claudia and Lynnie sit down with Shia Snow and her story is not what you expect. Sober at 23. Performing in elite private members clubs. Dating older men. Building a persona. They talk about the reality behind “provocative performance,” the difference between being objectified and being in control, the boundaries she refuses to cross (no matter the money), and how sobriety gave her an edge in an industry where most people are trying to escape. This episode is about power, reinvention, and the woman behind the persona.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to Coffee and Cleavage. Welcome. I'm Linny. And I'm Claudia. And we have a very special guest today.

SPEAKER_03 0:08

Hi everyone. Very, very special guest. I don't know. Does she need like a proper introduction? Because if you don't know who Shia Snow is, then you're we don't want you watching the show. Who are you? So if you don't know who she is, just exit out of this, please. I think Shia is. Cheers, by the way. The perfect combination of mystique and ambition that has a hell of a come-up story.

SPEAKER_02 0:33

Oh, I love that. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 0:35

Yeah, I think your story is just so cool.

SPEAKER_02 0:38

Oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_03 0:39

So cool. So welcome to the show. And we also have Gary here. If Gary would like to Gary's been very quiet.

SPEAKER_01 0:45

Yeah, Gary, what's going on?

SPEAKER_00 0:47

I mean, I don't know what you guys want me to say. Like I feel like I have questions, but you guys ask them all.

SPEAKER_03 0:52

So we're always on the same page with Gary, so that's okay. Um, so Shai, you have quite the come-up story, like um like I said. And I know through getting to know you personally, you know, going out to dinners with you, I think one of the super cool things that you've been very open and honest about is um sobriety.

SPEAKER_02 1:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:15

Which you've been sober for seven years. Yeah. And you're only 30.

SPEAKER_02 1:20

Um, 29 still. Wow. I'm holding on to these last few months.

SPEAKER_03 1:23

Okay, so holding on to them because after 30, I just hold down.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

Making the most of them. I'm ready for 30, but yeah, I am 29 still. But yeah, seven years of sobriety. Okay. Completely sober.

SPEAKER_03 1:36

So that that must have been you had a very crazy life very early on. Tell us about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

Yeah, absolutely. Um, well, the first time I ever did drugs, I accidentally uh smoked crack when I was 13. Wow. So my drug addiction just like started fast and quick and hard and intense. Yeah. I saw it in I saw Insidious actually. Wow. And crack.

SPEAKER_00 2:01

That's terrifying.

SPEAKER_02 2:02

I actually was blacking out the whole time, so it wasn't that terrifying. Um I'd like black out and then I'd I'd like appear in a different seat and I'd be like screaming. I didn't even know I was screaming. And oh my god. I was just like a drug addict, like from the start. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:17

That's literally what I feel like. I'm on like the same cup of coffee, but I've had cold brew with two espresso shots in it. Like I feel that right now. Yeah. Just like blacking out a little bit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:28

Did someone tell you? I mean, like, hey, just smoke this, or were you like, how did that?

SPEAKER_02 2:33

I thought I was smoking weed. Wow. Yeah. And I I wasn't. I was definitely smoking something else. Wow. Yeah. Oh, wow. That's crazy. That's crazy. That is.

SPEAKER_03 2:43

Um, so being sober seven years, what's what's harder? Is it getting sober or staying sober once life got really good for you? What's harder, do you think?

SPEAKER_02 2:53

Um staying sober or getting sober. Well, getting sober wasn't really a choice. I got sober because I became really physically ill. And um, I was high risk for a heart attack, a stroke, or a blood clot in my brain and my heart.

SPEAKER_03 3:08

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 3:09

So I was really physically ill with Graves' disease. And so I actually got sober because like I physically couldn't, you know, I could barely breathe, let alone like want to smoke crack or like or do math or something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:25

Did you do like super hardcore drugs? I did, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:27

I did, I did math for three and a half years. That was like that was quite the experience.

SPEAKER_03 3:33

Is it is it true how they say like you do it once and you're like hooked? Is that true?

SPEAKER_02 3:37

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I'm just an addict through and through. Like I get addicted to like peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

SPEAKER_03 3:41

So like I mean, there's worse things, right? That's that's okay. I, you know, I'm okay with that addiction. Do you feel like you lost a lot of friends getting sober? Like, how was that like?

SPEAKER_02 3:54

I actually I had no friends when I wasn't sober. So, and also I'm from such a small town of like 800, a thousand people. Wow. So there was nobody there. So I have more friends now than like I ever could have imagined.

SPEAKER_03 4:09

Which is crazy because in LA, I feel like it's so hard to make friends.

SPEAKER_01 4:13

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_02 4:15

People suck in this town. I feel like you just you just be yourself and like there's gonna be people that fucking hate you, and there's gonna be people that fucking love you. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:24

You know, absolutely. Well, we love you. Yeah, love you guys. Um, performing for a private members club, tell us about that. Who?

SPEAKER_02 4:33

Yeah, Kinky Rabbit. Yeah. Um, well, I met Kinky Rabbit through Playboy um early last year, and um, I had no idea what it was when I showed up. Um, they just said, we'll give you like$500 to model. And I was like desperate for money. I was living in a garage. So I'm like, absolutely, I'll do anything. And then I showed up, and and the night kind of like started going on, and no one was really telling me like what was happening. And but I could feel it. Like I was like stuttering my words, like I was so nervous. I knew like something was up, like this wasn't a regular party. And then suddenly there's like girls making out and like using the same dildo, and and it was like a circus theme that night. And um, and I was like hooked right off the bat.

SPEAKER_03 5:22

Wow. And you were like, I want to do this.

SPEAKER_02 5:24

Yeah, I remember just like um, you know, telling Alina, who's an absolute creative genius.

SPEAKER_03 5:31

She is.

SPEAKER_02 5:31

Um, just kind of like pulling her to the side and being like, hey, like I'm I'm all in with this, and like I'll do whatever you want me to do.

SPEAKER_03 5:38

No way. Yeah. So what was your first thing you did?

SPEAKER_02 5:42

Um, so that was just like simple modeling for the first one. And then after that, I was the main performer for the rest of the year. Oh my god. That's amazing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:54

And what was your first performance?

SPEAKER_02 5:55

Um, I fucked a gorilla, a fake gorilla, a man in a gorilla costume.

SPEAKER_03 6:00

That's that's crazy. Yeah. Was he was he in the gorilla still in the costume?

SPEAKER_02 6:05

Um, his dick out in the gorilla. Yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah, he had a gorilla dick and everything. People are probably like, what is what are we talking about? Yeah, but I love, I love just like the dramatics and theatrics and um the visual arts aspect of all of it.

SPEAKER_01 6:24

I love all your photos with them, like incredible, so beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 6:27

It's been such an honor of my life to like work with Kinky Rabbit and to work with Alina and to meet everyone in that community.

SPEAKER_03 6:34

Yeah, that's crazy. So, your first performance, I I want to go into your brain that night. What's going through your head? Is it nerves? Is it excitement? Is it both? Is it what am I doing? Is it I can't wait to do it again? Like what what went through your head in that first performance?

SPEAKER_02 6:49

I mean, I was definitely like so jittery and terrified. And now I don't get nervous at all. But um, I just remember like kind of telling, cause I had to be like a victim in this like little play. So I just remember kind of telling these guards, you know, be as aggressive with me as possible because I'm gonna fight you. I'm gonna try to really escape. So like just be as aggressive as possible. I just wanted to like do it as much as I possibly could, you know, all the way. That's crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:17

And you enjoyed it?

SPEAKER_02 7:18

Yeah. It was one of the I've just had like incredible experiences with them. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_03 7:23

So it's crazy to me because when you go to a lot of these parties, not just kinky, but but other events like this, a lot of people are drunk. A lot of people, you know, they could be using substances too, because you know, for them, that's like their escape, right? They're they're going to an environment that's so sexually charged and so fun. So they want to use substances or they want to just drink just to, you know, let let loose a little bit. How is it like for you working in an environment where everybody's on something, but you're sober? Is that difficult?

SPEAKER_02 7:57

Um, for me, not at all. It's not difficult for me at all. Um, I don't know if it's because I started doing drugs early. So maybe my brain chemistry is just a little bit different. And I feel very in my element, almost more in that kind of environment than like in regular life. Interesting. So I feel very comfortable. Um, and even though other people use drugs, it doesn't really like it's not something that I think about really at all. And I I feel like everyone has their own experience with drugs. You know, some maybe have something super positive and some it's way negative. Um, for me, like those those environments don't um require any any substance to experience that's how it should be. Yeah, I think.

SPEAKER_03 8:43

Because if you're going there and you can't appreciate the art of it, I mean, like you said, the performances, like they're so crazy. Like I wouldn't want to be on drugs. Like, I want to see like an experience how it's meant to be experienced.

SPEAKER_02 8:55

Yeah, like you know. I think social anxiety is a huge reason why people use substances. Yeah. And don't get me wrong, like I definitely get anxious, especially like performing, I get anxious, but I feel like the thrill of it all is to like feel all of it in all of its intensity. And I wouldn't want to like numb that.

SPEAKER_01 9:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:13

You know, would you have to drink or something at a party like this?

SPEAKER_01 9:16

I mean, I would like to have a cocktail or two. Yeah. Why not? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But I'm a I like to drink socially, you know. Yeah. I've never gone to a party sober. Like completely well, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:30

I mean, you're not hammered.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

Do you think more people don't drink? Or do you think they do going to those or do drugs or anything?

SPEAKER_02 9:38

Um, I mean, I think mushrooms are like a really popular drug people use in these environments. Um, but I don't I don't think they're doing like crazy, crazy hard drugs.

SPEAKER_03 9:48

No, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_02 9:49

Um, and there's actually a lot more sober people at these parties than you'd realize.

SPEAKER_03 9:53

Well, didn't they say that like liquor sales are down for the first time, like everything? I've heard that, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:59

Stopping drinking, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:00

Yeah, like bring in Olipop.

SPEAKER_02 10:02

I have like a little cooler, and we'll pack it up with like Olipops.

SPEAKER_03 10:06

Interesting. Yeah. I mean, we we've, you know, I've been to events like this, and you wouldn't believe the amount of people that are sober. Like, and and it's I think this specific party, like, it's a different type of crowd. Like they're a little bit more distinguished, they're, you know, professionals. Like, so they're not showing up and doing A, B, C, and D because it's it's just not the right crowd for that. You know, like they're they're a lot more with it to do well-to-do people. And they're just, they're having a good time. They're not there to abuse anything, you know.

SPEAKER_02 10:35

What I love about these parties is the vulnerability aspect, and and everyone's kind of, I mean, most people are naked, right? Like fully naked. So it's as authentic as you could possibly be. And I feel like it's a perfect place to kind of like grow your confidence and things like that and get through your social anxiety. Yeah. It's it's a great place to grow. And I love being naked. Yeah. I love when you're naked too.

SPEAKER_03 11:00

Have you seen me naked?

SPEAKER_01 11:01

I haven't seen you. I just think about the first party I went to of yours. You're like, at midnight, I'm getting naked in a pull. Everybody knows the secrets now.

SPEAKER_03 11:12

It's true. No, it's it's true though. You know, we're we're honest here. That's that's a rule at our house. If I have a house party if you're not naked at midnight, midnight. Get out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 11:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:22

And your birthday's coming up.

SPEAKER_01 11:24

My birthday is coming up. That was the most fun party. It's funnest I've ever been to in my life. Because it's a good group of people. It's fine.

SPEAKER_03 11:30

You know, like you don't just invite like randoms where, you know, I'm like, you know, I don't I don't want to see like that person naked. The only people I want to see naked, they know who they are. They know. And if they're not, they're out by midnight anyway. So it's fine. Um so when people, when you tell people about this, what do you think is like a assumption that they make that is totally wrong about these parties?

SPEAKER_02 11:53

Um, I think the most common question I get is like, well, what are your kinks? I think people like assume that I'm this freak. I'm like an insane, like I must have the craziest kinks because I'm, you know, I'm doing this. So um, and like I always say like my kink is romance. Oh. I'm like the most like yeah, soft-hearted, like mushigashy kind of girl underneath it all. You know, so I'd say that's like the biggest misconception. Interesting. What's your biggest kink, Lenny? Oh god.

SPEAKER_03 12:22

You're gonna call me out. I'm gonna call it Do you have a kink? Yeah, do you have a kink?

SPEAKER_01 12:28

I don't really know if I have. Oh I like, I like I have this thing about um desks, you know. I wouldn't say it's a kink. I just think it's so hot. Thinking about role-playing and being on the desk. Yeah. Really? Didn't fuck on a desk, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:48

I've never like workplace or like school or just anything like that.

SPEAKER_01 12:53

Any desk. Workplace.

SPEAKER_00 12:55

Like boss.

SPEAKER_01 12:56

I guess this would be more fantasy than kink, right? I'm gonna get I know what I'm getting Linny for her birthday. A desk.

SPEAKER_00 13:02

There you go, and set your big ass desk.

SPEAKER_03 13:06

Shipment from my kiosk. I was like, oh, I'm so horny. I kind of know what you mean though, because I have a thing for like like massage is like like if I were to like look up like a porn, like I would go to like massage, like massage stuff because I think it's so hot, like getting rubbed and then like and then you know, doing the deed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, desks. If you guys are listening, you're gonna get 600 desks delivered to your PO box just for saying that.

SPEAKER_01 13:32

I know. I know. Okay. I don't know if that's considered a I guess not a kink, but yeah. Okay. What's your kink? We're working on this. I don't I don't know if I really have one. I don't really have a kink either. What's well you said yours is your romance, is romance.

SPEAKER_03 13:45

But if you had to like nail down like a kink kink. Kink.

SPEAKER_02 13:49

Oh, I got you.

SPEAKER_03 13:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 13:51

Um, I am really into like um being told like I'm a good girl. A praise kink. A praise kink. You've been such a good girl today.

SPEAKER_01 14:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 14:00

Well, you're doing a great job on this podcast. I love it. I like to be praised. Okay, praise is good. Yeah, yeah. It's funny because like that shouldn't be a kink. Men should just be telling us we're good girls.

SPEAKER_01 14:14

Who doesn't want to be worshipped, right? Yeah. Do you ever feel like you're objectified at these parties?

SPEAKER_02 14:21

Ooh, um, I'd say like less at these parties and like more in just like real life. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 14:27

Literally, it's in my notes. I feel more objectified at like nightclubs. You know, like because people don't have boundaries like in in regular life, but then you go to like a party where you think everybody's just a pig, and it's the nicest, coolest people that respect every boundary under the sun.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

Absolutely. Absolutely. I've never felt objectified or anything even close to it at these parties.

SPEAKER_03 14:51

Yeah, no, same.

SPEAKER_01 14:52

Which is so amazing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:56

Totally.

SPEAKER_01 14:56

What's a boundary you never cross no matter the money? A boundary I would never cross no matter the money.

SPEAKER_02 15:09

I mean, she's like, I'm like a freak though, so I mean, money doesn't really ever get me going. I've never done anything for money. Like, I I mean, like, nothing I do is because of money really. It's mostly like because of like um the other benefits that come with any of my choices, you know. I I I came from nothing, you know. I grew up in a trailer, you know, my dad had seven dollars in his pocket, kind of thing, right? So like money was never the reason I did anything. It was always because like I just wanted to like maybe, you know, um experience something. Yeah, like make music or do this or do that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:49

How do you think you protect yourself and honestly your your sanity when you're in an environment that's completely based on on fantasy?

SPEAKER_02 15:59

I'm not really determined to protect my sanity. I don't I wouldn't say that's the mission.

SPEAKER_03 16:04

But yeah, that that went up.

SPEAKER_02 16:06

Yeah. If anything, I've like consciously tried to lose my sanity. You know, I think when you're trying to like control life and like put it all into different containers, like it's just never gonna work out. You know, I think you have to kind of like let yourself lose yourself. I agree with that. I totally agree with that. I'm into being insane. I'm into that. That's your key.

SPEAKER_01 16:26

That's your came from. Um, tell us about dating while working at a sex club. Does that ever cause any rifts or what is that like for you?

SPEAKER_02 16:36

Dating while working at a sex club. Um, yeah, I would never, I would never talk to anyone that didn't accept uh what I do or what I'm into, you know. Like I'm not, I don't like need to date someone, you know. Like it's really important to me that like anyone around me is like a supporter and isn't gonna like bring me down, you know. Absolutely. Yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_01 16:58

That's important.

SPEAKER_02 16:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:00

And I remember you telling me one time in in our conversations you dated someone double your age. How I did. How old were you and how old were they?

SPEAKER_02 17:08

Um, so when I met him, I was like 1920. Okay. And he was around, you know, 47.

SPEAKER_03 17:17

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 17:17

Yeah. And that's how I got addicted to math. That's crazy. Yeah, we did have a crazy relationship. How did that end? Um I mean, you know, his drug addiction was just like getting so, so bad. And um, you know, he was physically abusive. So, you know, it was really physically abusive, like every single day for like three and a half years. So the day that I finally left, I like really thought like I was, I don't know, it was I thought I was gonna die that last day, you know. So I just left because like I was physically unsafe. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 17:54

Wow. Yeah. You have such a story. You do.

SPEAKER_02 17:57

Yeah, there's some dark parts, but like just as much as my darkness is dark, my light is light. Like I've experienced both ends just as much of life, if not like more good. I like to focus on the good.

SPEAKER_03 18:09

Yeah, and you're I think you're you're doing a good job at that. You're you're creating with it now because I'm seeing you're getting into music and you have these music videos are so cool.

SPEAKER_01 18:19

So cool. Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_03 18:20

Um, I don't know if you got a chance to watch any of her stuff, but they're so they're so theatrical and so cool. Like, I think you do such a great job with that. Yeah, you're very creative. Yeah. Thank you. Is that what like is next for you? Like, what's what what what is Shia Snow doing next?

SPEAKER_02 18:34

Um, well, I mean, music would be great, but it's kind of, you know, on the back burner. I really I wrote this book for three years. Like my everything. Um, and so I'm looking for a publisher right now. Very good. Oh, that's awesome. Hopefully, we have any publishers watching.

SPEAKER_03 18:53

Please help us. Yeah, help a girl out for sure. That's awesome. So working on the book.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

Um I'd love to do like more public speaking, just more podcasts, and you know, just well, we're glad you're here. Yeah, this is exactly like this is really I'm already doing it.

SPEAKER_03 19:08

Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah. That was so cool because when I asked her, she was like, immediately yes. Yeah, I'm so grateful. Yeah, that's super cool. Well, is there um anywhere fans can find you? Um, anywhere that you want to plug anything you're working on right now?

SPEAKER_02 19:25

Um, well, I guess just my Instagram, Shia Snow Axe, and of course my OnlyFans. Her OnlyFans, yes.

SPEAKER_03 19:32

Make sure you guys join. And you have a massive OnlyFans. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:36

I'm I love my OnlyFans. Yeah, it's been nothing but positive experiences.

SPEAKER_03 19:40

And and I love when people have positive experiences because like you and I have been on OnlyFans for oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 19:46

OGs.

SPEAKER_03 19:47

Oh, true OGs, like 2000, what, 17?

SPEAKER_01 19:50

2018 for me, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:51

Yeah, 17. So we could definitely speak on the good that OF has brought into our lives. So yeah, yeah. Well, maybe there'll be a coffee cleavage and Shia collab photo shoot or something. Yeah, that'd be hot.

SPEAKER_01 20:03

Absolutely. That would be really hot.

SPEAKER_02 20:04

I would love that. I would love that. Put it and blow it up in my home.

SPEAKER_03 20:08

Right, same. Oh yeah. Let's do it. Same. Well, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much. Thank you. Cheers, guys. Let us know what you thought about this episode.

SPEAKER_01 20:18

Cheers. Thank you for listening. Cheers, cheers, and thank you again. Cheers.