SvB #83 - Black Adam Freestyle Show!!!

[Digging in the Crates - 05:44 ] 

[Black Adam Review and Reactions - 10:22 ]  

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Transcript

Theo: Oh, welcome, welcome, welcome to Show Versus Business, Your weekly Tech on pop culture from two very different perspectives. I'm your host, Theo. On the line. I had the man himself, Mr. Benja. What is up my man?

Mr. Benja: Woo. What's up boy? I feel hype like, Like a hit by a bolt lightning or something. 

Theo: Ah, yeah. You must be on that black tip black dog.

Mr. Benja: I'm black. I'm black. I'm black. I was like the first man. First man was black. Adam man

Theo: Guys, we are so excited to share with you. This is our special pod. We're going to talk about black Adam First reactions. This is, this is a hot one, guys, because we both literally just saw this movie not together, but we did see it the same day for a change.

And so we'll talk about that. So this would be the pod where we just go deep into black Adam and Shaza and other things that that's going on in D C E U. But love to get into this today, but Mr. Benja, before we get into it, let's talk a little bit about how was your week? Man?

Mr. Benja: Week was actually hard, man.

Week was week was kind of tough for me. I was fighting back some, some anxiety. I was just dealing with stuff that wasn't moving the way I wanted it to. You know how that frustrates you and like, like, come on, why isn't this moving? And so at the end of the week, man, I was just like, All right, I need to, I need a, a comic book movie to, to liven me up.

And black Adam happened and we're about to talk about it. So that was my week, man. 

Theo: Oh man. That's awesome, man. Well, I'm glad you're feeling better, man. Didn't know that. Oh man. Same here, man. Just grinding brother. I mean, this last couple weeks in business world's been a lot. And man, I blame you Mr. Ben.

That helped me get outta my, get out of my doldrums man. You helped me. Thank you. Oh, I just wanna say that. 

Mr. Benja: Okay. Appreciate. 

Theo: I'll stop you. You have, because you sent me the undercover billionaire link Season two Oh yeah. With Grant Cardone and. Man that inspired me, man. I got back on the Grant Cardone train man.

And just seeing how he flowed and, you know, cause I watched it when it first premiered, but I guess I forgot all about it because of it went to like Discovery Plus. So I didn't sign up for that. You know, I signed up for everything. I just didn't sign up for that one. Mm-hmm. and, and thanks to you I cracked out on just Grant Cardell.

Mr. Benja: Right? . . 

Theo: Yep. But, but what I was impressed with was that the undercut of billionaires didn't just go by what he said it actually did. What, you know, talked about what he did and I was like amazed about like different things he did to kind of move. So for those that no Undercover of Billionaires, a show where they plop a billionaire anywhere in the country.

We talked about this pride last week and on the Wednesday pot. Anywhere in the country. And with basically a hundred dollars a cell phone o beat up truck. And, and they changed their name. And so now their goal is in 90 days, three months, they have to build a business that's worth a bu a million dollars in 90 days.

And seeing grant flow, man, like in the environment, I was like, Oh yeah, , this is why. He's who he's, And so it kinda got me back on the train with him. So, you know, listen to his podcast like I hinted at you, maybe interested in going off his conferences. So if you don't know Grant Cardone is one of these, you know, Sales gurus talks about marketing.

He's a little older than some of the ones like Ty Lopez or Gary V. But you know, I think for, for a lot of guys, you know, like, you know, he's, he's, he's been in this mix for a minute and he's kind of proven himself. So so anyway, make a long story short, that inspired me, Mr. Ben, and I'm like, Oh, I can 10 next to my business and I'm gonna make it happen.

So so I appreciate you sending that my way. 

Mr. Benja: Hey, no problem, man. You know, anything that gets me hyped, it's just too much for me to handle, so I gotta send it to somebody else. Get them hyped too. . 

Theo: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, we both have read his books and, you know, kind of went through his stuff and, you know, just like all these gurus, after a while he's just like, Okay, this saying the same stuff over and over again.

But you know, You kind of have to, if you're, and you know, for everyone's listening, you kind of have to, if you're build a business, always have to refresh, you know, that cup because you know it can beat you down. I mean, we talk about economy's getting down a little bit, recession talks you know, just, you know, me personally dealing with customers, employees.

Yep. But man, sometimes you gotta fill that cup, man, You hear, Cuz I think what's, what the challenge is a business person is because, you know, you always kind of, in two worlds, you have to kinda understand the reality of the. Because you, you got it. It's just, it is what it is. Customer's calling you right now, gotta fix it.

You know, you gotta deal with, you know, finances and stuff like that, but you really ha I mean, to to, to really grow, you have to spend more time in the future. And if you can't balance that well, then you kinda get stuck. You just, like, I spending so much time in the past or currently in my current situation, I'm not spending enough time in the future.

And Grant is really about that. Like, you gotta spend 95% of your time on, on getting income. 99.9% should be spent getting income. Forget about expenses. , 

Mr. Benja: you get, you get, yeah, you get too into it, dog. We gotta save that for the, the breakdown, right? I 

Theo: know, I know it. I know. So , so let me stop. But anyway guys, so go check it out.

You know, undercover billionaire. We'll talk about on one of our pods in the next couple of weeks, guys. So so yeah, thank you Mr. Bider for this week. So well, with that being said, bid Bja, let's do a quick little segment on digging into crates. And this one, we'll talk a little bit about our memories of Black Adam slash Shaza, which is the character that Black Adam Kind was introduced with.

So, Mr. Benja, I'll let you go first. What, what are your thoughts about, what do you remember about Black Adam in general? 

Mr. Benja: God, dude, I didn't even remember this dude. I kind of liked Shaza and I thought Black Adam was like, you know, one of the Star Trek things where they just put the, you know, put the, put the goatee on you, and all of a sudden that's the evil guy.

So whenever I saw Black Adam, I was like, All right, whatever. And kept going. Didn't even think about him. It did. It took me up until when they, when people started passing around animated gifts, until I got with Black Adam. Cuz there was one of just him, like in the animated show, beating the crap outta Superman or having a good little fight with him.

And I was like, Oh crap, who is this? And then I had to look into Black Adam and that got me into some DC animated movies and shows and. He's relatively new to me. I knew of him, but now I'm getting into him and I'm like, All right, this sky's a character. 

Theo: Interesting. I mean, you know, I wasn't a big DC fan growing up.

I mean, and I kind of heard of Shaan, but I thought it was kind of hokey. It's kind of like, you know, I'm a kid and now I say this word and I'm like, you know, superhero, like, eh, whatever. But Uhhuh, as I got older, I started reading some of the Justice League comic books and, and I think he shows up in there and Black Adam is kind of like this, kinda like a mix of bikini like Raza go, you know, kind like this big thinker, you know, kind of, you know, on earth thinker.

But he kind of owns his own kind of you know, city. He's like a, a ruler. So he is kind of like a, a Magni, you know, He has a people that he's responsible for. And so so it's kind of interesting mix, right? It's like this dude that's like, And I think in the comic books he's trying to take over the world though, right?

So it's always kinda like, has some machinations for that. And so it's just I digress man. Villains are interesting in this , these comic books series. It is like you got different levels to this thing. So it's like, I always wanna see what would happen if like the, a villain took over the world, but now he is gotta face the outside world, right?

Like Yeah. Yeah. Freaking dark seed comes right? And now you got Black Anna versus dark seed, but I digress. So anyway, I think you know, I thought he was kind of cool. He was kind of one of those kind of like like Uber villains and like, you know, they had to really, you know, put it all together to kind of fight this guy cuz he was also smart.

Yeah. And he was powerful. So I like that aspect of him. 

Mr. Benja: Yeah. And he was just, you know what, He was kind of like DC's name more to me, where he was just this, this mean dude who was just like, Listen, I got my own thing going on f all y'all. So once I started reading into him a little more, I started to like 

Theo: that about him.

Yeah, I think so too. It's, he's a ruler, so he's, he's, you know, he knows how to, you know, he's trying to rule his people and it's like, you know, I think there's part of him that does wanna rule the planet. He's got a better idea, you know, But I, I always get the sense that they just don't know kind of always what to do with him.

Like, you're right. Some of the animated shows, they did show that it was one of them. I can't, it was based off just a league story where he kind of tried to take over the world. Mm-hmm. and you know, Justice League had to deal with them. And I was like, Damn, this dude is that powerful. They gotta sit in the whole Justice League.

Okay, there you go. So so yeah, so that was impressed me about the character in general. 

Mr. Benja: Yeah. You know, it's funny, as a, as like a kid, I usually like, I, I would usually think those are hokey characters, you know, like Shaza being hokey cuz he turns into a kid or whatever. But somehow Shaza worked for me.

I'm not exactly sure why. And then Black Adam didn't work for me. I'm not exactly sure why, because if you listen to my other talks of characters and things that it seems totally backwards. I should have been liking Black Adam and, you know, calling Shaza a punk, but other way around. 

Theo: Yeah. Well we were talking about that, his origin story from comics and what they introduced in his movies a little bit more.

But so, 

Mr. Benja: so, so real quick, what, what got you out to the 

Theo: theater. Yeah. So Yeah, so are we gonna talk a little bit, We're gonna move on to the, the black Adam Review next. . Oh, oh, I'll, I was just flowing. . Just flowing. We're free styling guys. We're free styling. This is a different flow. So yeah, guys, we're gonna go ahead and segment over to the Black Adam Review.

So we'll put down the time marker. But so what got me over there, man? Man, like, you know, we talked about this I think on a Wednesday pot. I, I think we both were like, Nah, you know, this don't seem like the thing for us. And literally I was sitting here me and my son and my six year old we were just kind of just sitting around.

My wife and my daughter, they were out doing something. So I was gonna do some work around the house and I said, You know what? I'm kind of tired. I said, Well, let me see if Black Adams playing, you know, let's. And it was a show of showing like, in next five minutes, say, Hey son, let's go . . So it's one of those, Yeah, it's one of those game time decisions where I was just like, You know what, let's just go check it out.

I mean, cause, and also, you know, I mean I think one of the reasons I'm, I'm more so than maybe you, I, I'm more of those that man, I just don't like being spoiled. And I started hearing rumblings, you know, we'll talk about later that was happening with black Adam. I was like, Oh, I gotta go. I guess I gotta go watch this now cuz I don't wanna get spoiled too much on this.

So so that was kind of kinda what drove me out to go see it. What about you? 

Mr. Benja: Man, as I said, I was, I was up this morning and I was just feeling. Because the week had been hitting me, man. I was like, Ugh, from this week. And then I said, All right, well I could go see Black Adam. Cause I was trying to rationalize to myself like, Well if I see black Adam, then I'll be able to talk about it and post about it and that'll be part of my social media initiative and blah, blah, blah.

And I was trying to rationalize having, having a good time, right at a movie. And then I was like, Nah, man, lemme just go. So I whipped out the fan Dango app which I'm gonna talk trash about, you know, bought my ticket, ran out to the theater, and I was like, All right, scan this. And lady scanned it. She's like, I'm sorry, Like, what are you talking about?

It's like not going through. So I was like, Let me give you the confirmation number. Didn't go through. And I looked at it, it was to the theater. A couple blocks down

and I'm, I'm pissed. I'm like, What? Impossible? How could this be? It's like, gimme a ticket for this one. And it's like, I looked at all the seats. I didn't like 'em, and I was pissed. So I was like, she's like, Well, we can. I was like, Yeah, whatever lady. Have a good day. I'm sorry. I gotta go. I went outside and was like, I can't miss like the first 15 minutes of the movie.

So I started looking for other showtimes and everything, and I was about to go back in, right? I was about to go back in. I said, I just said, Let calm down. Let's find some other times. And I opened up Fandango and their app. What it did is af after I had updated the app like a couple weeks ago, they changed it to where they don't show me my favorite theater.

They show me theaters close to me by default. So I thought it was gonna be my favorite theater sitting right there. That's why I just went ahead and bought, I saw the name of my favorite theater, but that's not what the icon was. So a slight little design difference. . Anyway, so I ended up getting pissed and I was about to buy another ticket, right?

And I said, Let me go eat, Calm down. So I went and ate Calm down, was about to buy a second ticket. People coming out of the theater, right? People coming out Marshalls, people coming out of was it? LA Fitness over there like, What's going on? Everybody's just coming out. I thought there might be a fire or something.

Her sirens in the background, I was like, Oh, mm-hmm , is it, is it going down? Do I need to jump in a car and just get outta here? Power went down in the whole area. So I'm like, Oh my God, what? Oh my God. So I'm sitting here thinking I'm about to go to the next showing, right? Not going to that one either.

Powers out. . So I'm like pissed again. Well, but I'm not gonna give up now cause I'm mad now. , you know, , sometimes I'm, I'm bad with sunk cost, right? I'm like, I'm not going home. I said I was gonna feel better . So instead of be being 10 30, I'm looking at like a two o'clock showing now. So it's like what? Two, almost getting toward four hours now where I haven't seen this movie.

Jesus. So I'm just like, man, like, all right man, I'm supposed to do a podcast. I gotta, man, I'm gonna see this movie. So I sent you that text and was like, Hey, I'm watching it now. Talked to you when I get back. . Sped off, sped off to another theater. Theater, got in there and yeah, just got back, turned on the computer, started recording this, and I had a.

Theo: Oh man, that's that's quite a story, man. Well I'm glad you stayed persistent cuz you know, some, you know, some folks would not be as persistent as you. I'm sorry that a fan Dango app is sucky. I haven't used a fan Dango app in like years because you know, I'm still an AMC Stubs. Mm-hmm. . So I just get, you know, through free movies, you know, a week.

I'm still on that. So I just like, I'm just gonna do that. That helps me get through a lot of the movie stuff and, but Fanangle, it's not, not the app anymore, is that what you're 

Mr. Benja: telling me? I wanted to get back into product development, just to go tell them how bad they are.

No cap. 

Theo: Oh, damn. Yeah, I mean, AMC app can be a little trash too, man. So, So my story, you know, my story's pretty simple, but, you know, I was still debating if I was gonna take my six year old to go see this movie. And so I was trying to see reviews, but I didn't wanna get spoiled, so I said, Let me just go take them.

And so I tried to get the tickets and then, you know, the first time I did it, it was like, the seats are taken. I'm like, what? and then, so I had to go back to beginning. They said the seats were taken again. I said, Oh, what the hell's going on here? And then I finally it, third time, find seats got through.

And so I was able to kind of get two seats next to each other to watch the 

Mr. Benja: movie. Were were you picking the same seats or you just 

Theo: Yeah, I was picking seat. Exactly. Good point. I was, I was picking the same seats. Cause whatever reason, the app was kind of saying the seats were taken and they, the same seats was like H eight and nine or something like that.

And the same seats kept popping up even though they, that the app was saying they were taken. So that was kinda weird. But so yeah, I persevered, so I got the tickets and it wasn't like IMAX or anything like that, it was just like a regular. Simple theater, you know, not with even the, the recliner seats, you know, my son was like, Dad, these seats don't recline.

What's going on? I was like, No, son. I'm too small. I can't, I can't, can't lean back like I want to. Like, yeah, dog, just, just chill, man. 

Mr. Benja: Ever rolled him into a theater that doesn't have stadium seating? Oh. 

Theo: Yeah, I have. I mean, he's just like, What? What the hell is this ? So yeah, my kids are bougie, man. It's bougie,

There's some bougie kids here, man. But it's all good. I'm gonna get 'em out at, So anyway, so we're going to watch it. And so literally like the first part of it, you know, we'll talk about it in a second. He's just like, Dad, I don't know about this movie. He said, This movie's boring . I said, Son, give it time.

Give it time. So then, you know, when it got into it, I said, Is this still boring? He said, Nah, it's all right . So so I got a six year old's approval. So, you know now I will say this, Is it kid friendly? Absolutely not . I was like, Oh, I was feeling like bad dad vibes here, because there's some scenes and you know them.

I was like And it's like, you, so here we're, we're spoiling right? Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna spoil it, but we'll talk about in a second. But I just wanna say this, you know how you see a scene you just like, Oh, that's sus Should I, should I talk about this? Should I just let it go? You know, . Yeah. So when you appear, you, you got these two decisions like, do I let internally process this?

And is this something that's gonna scar from life? Or he is gonna talk about his friends, you know, like years later. Yeah. My g let me see that. Or is it something I should just like, Well son, this is what happened, this is what happened. And I, I chose to let him process it internally. Yeah. And didn't say anything about it.

Cause I just, there was some scenes though that were a little scary. I said, Hey, you know, they, Oh, that's, that's just Jo. You know, everybody's just playing around trying to make it light. But there's one scene specifically, I know, you know what I'm talking about at the very end, . Yeah. Yeah. So, and I was like, Ooh, what do I 

Mr. Benja: say?

Yeah. That, that could be a couple levels to that. So, So anyway, so it was, that was 

Theo: the only thing. It's just like, But I liked it though, so we'll talk more. I liked the, the, there's some conflict in there around Euro and there's some discussions there that I think, you know, needs to be made and, we'll, we'll probably discuss it later, but I, that's what I liked.

Mr. Benja: Quick, well, quick question about the kid thing. Do you ever, do you remember as a kid, your dad asking you. Try your, well, your, your dad or your mom was, or somebody was fishing to see what you thought about something like, So what'd you think of the movie? Anything stand out to you? Nah, man. See, my parents were taking me to everything because as I said, they were artsy and they'd sit down and talk about all kinds of stuff and I'd be in art galleries asking questions that I shouldn't be asking.

And so that's how I grew up. Unfortunately. Yeah, or fortunately. Well, 

Theo: I do ask them every time, you know, what was the movie about? And then what'd you learn from it? Right. And so, you know, you just like, Yeah, it was, yeah, it's about, oh, it's about a crown. I was like, Okay, what'd you learn? You know, something simple.

You know, it's about friendship. Okay, that's fine. . So it's just . So anyway so yeah, so like I said, I don't know. I probably would've way, he was a little bit older, but but you know, you know, I thought it was action packed and You wanna get into? So not kid friendly, not kid friendly. Kid friendly, in my opinion.

Mr. Benja: No. I'm laughing because well, nevermind. I, I snuck into risky business when I was a kid and that was not like condone. I, I just totally snuck into that one bad business there. , 

Theo: I literally saw, we talked about this before, but I saw school days with my dad cuz he wanted to see it. And there's this, there's a sexy scene in there.

Where Tisha Campbell, I think licks the guy's hair. And for a long time I thought that's what sex was. And so, so there you go. So, like I said, and he, my dad never said anything to me. I had never said anything to him. I just looked straight ahead.

So yeah, so take, you know, but you know, I, I like taking my kids to movies and just kinda expose 'em to why I love, and I think they like it too. So, but it's not as pg, you know, it's PG 13. I get it. And it really does earn that distinction in my opinion. All right. All right, man. Where you wanna, where do you wanna start with this review, man, Where we wanna go?

It's a lot of different things we 

Mr. Benja: can cover you know general, General in crisis, cuz let's just throw those out there and then we can break it down. Right. So in general, I was pleasantly surprised with this. I, I liked the vibe. It was. And maybe I needed something that was more standard, fair hero movie at the time.

Didn't, didn't break too much new ground, but we got the rocks to take on things. And I think it fit the D C U pretty well. So I was happy with it and I may have been pretty open to being happy with it cuz I said I was kind of in a bad mood throughout the week and I just had to watch the movie today.

So overall I, I enjoyed it and I, I got good things. 

Theo: You know what, man, same here. I mean, maybe I went in with like, so low expectations. Expectation game is, is real. Sales 1 0 1 set the expectations low, blow 'em out the water. They're just like, ah, look like walking on water for me. And it's like, I came in like low expectations.

Like, Oh, this is just rock. You know, doing his thing. Mm-hmm. , pretty much it was, but Oh yeah. I, I, I did like, there was a lot of things in there that was interesting, you know, that they, that we haven't even seen from Marvel about what it means to be a superhero, a hero versus anti hero. That's, that's discussions that haven't even started at Marvel yet.

 And it's the whole God, like, you know, DC is about gods. And so just what that means and how does that react to people and then what it means to help people in other countries. What does it mean to have superheroes in other countries? Are those like nuclear weapons for different countries? You know?

So I, I, I thought there was some lot of good concepts and, you know, be honest with you, the VX effects were like awesome. So you know, compared, cuz maybe cuz they had, it was such a delay with Covid and stuff that they were able to make better VFX effects. So I would just say that I liked, I mean, I was impressed.

I mean, you know and it is also was a different version because let's be honest, The rock's version of Black Adam. It wasn't just black Adam, This is the Rock. I mean, he produced this, his producing partner and they have a vision of what they want black Adam to be, which is nothing , almost nothing like the comic book

Right? Right. 

Mr. Benja: So you're talking about expectations. I just looked up the Rotten Tomatoes score, and this also played into a lot of people's expectations. Earlier on in the week, we were getting scores of like, you know, 45% on Rotten Tomatoes, and it was like, Oh man, it's gonna be bad. People were saying bad things about it.

Then, you know, today it hits in at 41% for the, for the critic reviews, critical reviews. And, you know, people were kind of laughing at it and stuff like that, and they were even making mors comparisons, but these were people that hadn't seen it. The audience, the audience scores popped in. and at 80 something percent, and now they're sitting at 90% audience score.

Mm. 

Theo: Yeah. So, yeah, this might be Overperforming and people realize, they said right now it is looking at 60 to 62 million projection for the weekend, which is rock's best opening. I can't believe that. I didn't know that. But that's his best opening as a leading man. He's been in so many movies, but yeah, I mean he's, I guess what's it called?

Fast and Furious, you know, that was more of ensemble cla you know, cast. Yeah. But this is probably be his best opening and he produced it too, so, so he's got all the power man. So kudos to him. Yeah, man, I think you know, expectations are real man, and you know, the expectations were low on this.

But I think, you know, I mean Rock is a star, let's be honest, but the way they set it up and some interesting things, I thought there's there, there's something there. I mean, you know, now what is that? We don't know, but there's something there and we'll talk later about what the big thing was, . It's really getting people excited.

Yeah. It's, 

Mr. Benja: this is a spoil the show, so we assume you've seen it and you know what we're talking about. What, But we'll get to that. Yeah, so I, I like the rocks vibe here, and I don't think I've seen him in this kind of element where I've enjoyed him this much since the Scorpion King, 

Theo: I think. So you don't like when Rock talks?

Is that what you're, John tell me. 

Mr. Benja: Ooh, you may have gotten me in a in a pickle there. Cause I don't know how to answer that.

I mean, yeah. It, it's, it is the rock. I, I don't know. I don't, I'm trying to think back to times where I watched The Rock and be like, I really like this. He does his thing in the Fast and Furious movies, but. It's not as much of the rock, I guess, as a fast and furious movie with the rock 

Theo: in it. What about Jumanji?

I mean, I mean, Get Out. Did you like those at all? Did you watch those? I mean, 

Mr. Benja: they, they were fine. But yeah, it's, it's not like, it's not the the hardcore rock. It's that that's a much more lighthearted rock. This is, this is a side of the rock that I liked and I think I started seeing this in, what was that show?

Ballers was that show that he was in. Mm-hmm. . Yeah. I kind of like that harder edgier rock. So, And he can, he did that a bit in wrestling too, so I think that's Of course. Yeah. I stuck with it. So, no, I, I like this. And I like, I think he's making a power move, like what he's doing here. So he, 

Theo: he the show for me Is he, Is he?

Yeah. Is he? We'll talk about Yeah. Business move. He used to make some business moves, man. But we'll discuss. So I know. Look guys, we're gonna get into it. So so overall thoughts, We both enjoyed it. Pleasantly surprised. What's next on the agenda? 

Mr. Benja: You said he was making some business moves. 

Theo: Is he? Is he, Oh man.

I think, I think I put it on the show notes a little bit later, but, oh, so you know who produced this, right? Danny Garcia. Do you know who that is? I don't know. She's his ex-wife, but also dude, there's Oh, her cool. Cool enough where? She's actually still his manager. Right, Right. And they produce a lot of this stuff.

All his movies they produce together under their brand. Forgot it was like six bucks or something like that. And then also, you know, business together, XFL and other ventures. Right. So she is a producer on this. And then also her brother is also a part of this and some other folks. So this is a big play for them cuz they produced this with and you saw it was under New Line Cinema.

I, I forgot. New Line Cinema is bought by Warner Brothers Discovery. And so they kind of, you know, brought it to them, developed this as a, as a rock vehicle more so than a D C E U, you know, plug and play like Kevin Feige. So that's kind of interesting. That's never been, that's kind of, I mean, you know, I think let's.

They tried. What happened was Ed Norton tried to make a play. Remember back in the day with the Hulk, he was the first version of the Hulk, and he would took control over the whole production. They kicked him out. And so, cuz Cam Fey is like, We're controlling this, right? No one else. And I guess, you know, now the only other person who could have made a play was what's his name?

Robert Downey Jr. But I guess he was just like, they would just gimme so much money. He was just like, I'm good. But you know, so this is the first time we seen kinda like talent trying to take a play at the bigger franchise discussion, right? Like, Hey, why don't you give us rights to D C U, right?

Mm-hmm. and what we can do with it. And obviously Black Adams gonna be a big part of that cuz that's a character of the rock plays. So that's kind of the power play and, and what they did. Also Danny Garcia is a manager of another actor that pops up on this show, popped us on this movie, and so that's the big thing, So, Ah, interesting.

Yes. Okay. So that's what's going on from a business standpoint. So that's cool. They were making business actor to come play and now they're like, Hey look, we got a good villain, anti hero. We got a good hero. You need to give us Now the other move, you know, and I got this from Grace too. She mentioned this, the other person who has a play in this, you know, because right now there is no leader of D C U James Gunn.

Right? Because he's created this whole suicide squad. Mm-hmm. his char, you know, the actress, you know, plays Amanda Wallace shows up in this Vilo Davis. And so she's the linking, you know, core of kind of like the D CEU right now. And that's something James Gunn came up with pretty much. Or did he know someone else?

I think it was well, but James Gunn is kind of the shepherd of the whole, you know, suicide squad motif and everything. Right. And so, so those are the two opposing forces right now that the, the talent that's vying for the control of D ceu. So, So the Rock is doing it. 

Mr. Benja: So yeah, when we, Okay, so I know we haven't really talked, you talking about the story yet, but I think that's an important setup because it actually played out in the story pretty, in a pretty slick way.

So we could start with the rock here and the, the overall story. How were you feeling about the Black Adam story? The way they laid it out, his background. Any, any thoughts? 

Theo: Yeah, I mean, sure. I mean, you know, I think you know, they introduce the character. I mean, you know, as you know, he's, he's for a time and a place, right?

And so he's helping the place, and then there's a third act reveal that just flips the script on who, you know, what, who he really is. And then also, you know, kind of places him firmly as just, Hey, I'm just this guy, dude, man, I'll just do him. I'm doing my thug dizzle, right? I'm just out here . Yeah. You know, doing what I do, I'm no hero, right?

And so, so I, I kind of like that aspect of it, right? So they had to juxtapose it with, you know, to just societies right? To to kind of just give a, Hey, there's some real people that are good and trying to do right in the world. and then's people who are bad. And then there's people in the middle who are just like, Look, I just, I gotta do what I gotta do.

So I thought that was kind of interesting take, you know of what this means to be an anti-hero superhero. And I think maybe people have tried this before. I mean, you know, Wolverine, let's be Honest's pretty much an anti-hero, right? I mean, that's why he's been so successful for all these years, But to having someone that powerful to be that way, I think that's kind of interesting take.

And so, so I'm curious to see where they go with this. 

Mr. Benja: Yeah, I like the idea of, you know, he woke up and there wasn't anything for him to do. I mean, but he was angry when they put him away and when he pops back out, he's still angry, but he's not like, got any, He doesn't have any goal. He's just angry. And then people start attacking him right off the bat, which makes him angrier.

So it's like, okay, this is a good little setup where we just had this angry dude and people keep messing with him. and he's trying to find something to do with this anger. And I, I, I think that plays for a lot of people who are just kind of upset in this time, this era, and don't know what to do. So it's like, nah, man, even though you may not have a, a purpose or something like that to live for, you can still, they're the people around you.

The people look up to you and all this. So I thought, I thought it just worked. And I don't know that that was, that was my take on it as, as I started watching it, this guy lashing out and. 

Theo: Yeah, I like that. I mean, you're right. I mean, it was kind of like, I mean, straight action, right? Soon, as soon, you know, I was like, well damn, it's like 40 minutes and where's a rock, right?

it's just like, you know, there's like, that's what my son was saying, This is boring, right? There's like a whole like 30, 40 minutes, which is set up, set up, set up, set up, set up, set up, right? And so finally the rock pops up and it is action. So, you know, they, he just, he's just going to town doing what he does.

And I think at the same time then they had to, they have to kinda introduce a counterbalance, which is Justice Society of America. And so that's when they kind of get into the mix. Did 

Mr. Benja: you think that, Okay, so you, you thought, do you think there's anything they could have done to streamline it a bit?

Because it was kind of heavy. But then at some point I started understanding what they were trying to get at. I mean, you're not just making a bad guy and a good guy. You're making a bad guy. And you don't so much care about the you know, the opposing force, the antagonist, and then you're also setting up the justice society the way they did it, and this possibility for a new universe while still remaining a very intact movie on its own.

Yeah. So when I started thinking about all that, I was like, Okay, I see what they're doing. And I didn't quite get that until he started wigging out in the kids' room. So he's in the kids' room, right? And and they had this little fight going on and you've seen it, so I'm acting like you haven't seen it.

But there's a fight and they end up in the kids' room and the kids got posters of Batmans got figurines. Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. , you know, Wonder Woman and all this. And it's like, as they're fighting, you just see like the scratches go across the flash poster. You see like his fist going through the Superman poster.

And the last one they did was the fist going through the wall and he went through the the Superman, the death of Superman poster. Mm-hmm. just like dues day's fist. It was a total throwback to dues day's, fist going through Superman's chest. And I, I was like, I was like, Holy crap, this is, you know, they're throwing all that under the bus.

They. Taking this, this new step forward. Yeah. So when I start, when I started seeing that, I was like, Oh, okay, y'all, he's trying to put y'all to the side, not put y'all to the side, but there's a statement being made here. I like 

Theo: it. I mean, you know, it's a power play man, you know, put it into the story, but setting it up for something bigger, bigger kind of, I mean, that's chess, right?

You're a trust player. Yeah. You know, you, you, you're doing two things with one move, Right? And so they're trying to, you know, establish, you know, there's a fight and the fight is put between him and Hawk Man. Right. And they're just, you know, and you know, he, they're trying to establish that fight and like, you know, what's.

Basically Hawkman was there to kind of just all just show what a good guy's about, right? And then kind of constantly keep, you know, opposing what the Rock was doing as Black Adam. Then they had this big old fight inside, you know, you're right, the, the syndrome of D C U. And you, you see Batman statue fall down, you see Wonder Woman, you, its just like, awful man supposed to get busted up.

So they're like, you know, and subconsciously they're trying to say, Hey, this ain't your daddy's D C U man. We're about to bust this shit wide open. So so I like what they're, you know, I think that's the power move and that's the play that you know, so there's a war. I mean, it's not unlike, I mean, I know I want, I'm divergent here, but it's not unlike, I'll be honest with you, what's happening.

Star Wars now, right? There's another vision that's popping up, right? We, we talked about this. I don't know if you got a chance to watch and, or yet, but, and or is kind of like, like, you know, trying to put a different vision than the flog verse, right? The stuff he's built with Clone Wars. So now we got two opposing visions and which vision's gonna win out.

And I think now we're gonna have probably these mul, this, we'll really have four visions. Let's be honest. We got the Matt Rees, we got the what's his name? The Joker, mm-hmm. . 

Mr. Benja: Now Matt Ree is 

Theo: the latest with the Batman. The The Batman. Yes, The Batman. We got the Joker, which was written by man, I can't remember his name.

He did the Hangover, but it'll come to me later. Now. We got the Rock, and now we got what's his name? Shoot, I'm drawing a blank. I see all their faces. But James Gunn. So we got four versions now in the DCU that's battling now. So what's gonna win out? And can it be multiple versions? I don't know, but I, Kevin Faggy has shown that, you know, it, you need to have one architect that really makes us all sing.

So so I think there's a battle now to kind of figure out which vision. And I think Zach Snyder, let's be honest, he's probably still floating around here, right? Just in case. So they got all these visions floating around, and then that's the most emphatic that fight scene, to your point, it's the most emphatic play that I've seen that's just shown we, Hey, this is the Gatlin.

We're, we're tearing this shit down. So yeah, you wanna go with us, This is what we want. 

Mr. Benja: And you know, I think it, it actually works for DC because they're still playing within the confines of the D ceu. So it works for the fans. And now it's like, okay, would you rather see You know, Aquaman versus, you know, some other guy they introduced in the D ceu or do you wanna see him, you know, playing around with like one of Hawk Man's enemies?

You know, you've got this other set of characters that come along with the Justice Society as well, and, and now it's already written up that they're associated with Waller. So we know they're not completely, So even the good guys aren't completely a hundred percent on the side of good. They're kind of, I mean, Dr.

Fate's a little on the fence. He's kind of weird that way. Hawkman, the personality they gave him in this one was like, you know, dude's a bit of an extremist. He's like, This is good, is bad. Those people go down and go to prison. We lock 'em up for life and don't, you know, let 'em eat anything for bread, water.

Theo: Yeah. So, 

Mr. Benja: yeah, I mean I love the way they set that up. So I think it's good for the D C U. Very good for. 

Theo: I think so too. And so if the rock and play is right, I mean, you know, if you can't control all the dcu, you can absolutely, probably have a, a say in the villains, Right? And what that looks like. Right. Can you create these anti-hero villains?

I mean, but be honest with you, I guess that's what James Gun is doing, right? With suicide squads. So those two visions are kind of really dot, you know, opposing each other right now. 

Mr. Benja: Yeah. After, after finishing up peacemaker, I'm I'm putting my money on the rock, whatever vision he has. What? 

Theo: Oh, 

Mr. Benja: I was peacemaker.

Piece of shit maker

Theo: Wow. That's another pie, man. I respected what he was doing, but I, I get it. Yeah, I did. I mean, if you watch slither, I mean, you know, trauma. Right. That's just who he is, man. This is gonna be some, some bullshit in in a comedy 

Mr. Benja: I had, I had to take a shot at it. No Peacemaker. Peacemaker did its job. It wasn't totally my thing that it did its job.

But I am totally rocking with the Rock in this vision right now. 

Theo: Okay. So, yeah, so I think we both kind of like the anti-hero aspect of it. So you wanna get into the characters? Yes. Go. So who you wanna start? You put here Waller first, 

Mr. Benja: What you got? Yeah. I'm not sure why I moved her out first.

I think it, she sets a, a certain tone and it's like this, this lady back in the shadows also that kind of, I don't wanna say undermines, but it like it, it hearkens to what James Gunn did with Suicide Squad and all that. And it's like, Hey, we have this character here that's not all, all the way above board and she's kind of pulling the strings so, That just offers all kinds of story ideas.

Like, does the Justice society get get tricked or is black Adam gonna be used for nefarious means? And she didn't do much in the story, but I think what we've seen of her, it just allows for a lot of interesting ideas. And right when I started seeing her, you know, pushing pieces around the board, I was like, Oh, okay.

This is gonna be interesting. And I was kind of invested right off the bat. 

Theo: Yeah, she's definitely the and they've kind kinda established that a little bit as kinda like the Ry, you know what's the one for the the, the thunder bolts for Marvel? Is that no Ross, but who's the one that's putting like US agent together and all the folks together?

Oh 

Mr. Benja: with the long, with the long name? 

Theo: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, she's played by Louis Dryfus from Seinfeld fame. But so yeah, so there, there has to be some connective tissue, right? Between all these different movies and definitely Waller. I mean, even at dcu, she's kind of like that, right? So it's kind of like, you know, I think that having her there was really important.

And then kind of having her kinda like controlling everything, you know, has her hands in the ju justice, you know, Justice Society having, you know, access to more powerful you know, individuals. So but you know, it does bring up a point, and I think, you know, Weller Waller is more like that, the administration, administration of superheroes and controlling that aspect of it.

Mm-hmm. . And it's like, you know, they talked about that in the movie. It's like, Look, you didn't give a shit about what's it, Kak, Is that how you pronounce it? Okay. How do you pronou 

Mr. Benja: this city? The city? I don't know. , 

Theo: we we're gonna look it up guys. But con Yeah. Kd. So she's the actress that was playing oh man, we should know her name.

But her, her, her name is Sally Sora. She's been a bunch of stuff all the days, But she said to, directly to Dr. Fate, he said, Look, no one cared about this country for for 20 years. 23 years, right when we were occupied. But now we have a hero. Now you wanna worry about, Man, get the hell outta here. So I like that aspect, just like that, that country pride and wall, it represents that kind of like this, this, you know, this neo kind of political fra fraction that's trying to control these superheroes, but just really are they really helping people?

They're helping wealthy nations, but they're helping the world. And I think that that was an interesting concept. And like this justice society is supposed to be this international peacekeeping force of superheroes, but they haven't been to the places that people need help. And it's just like, man, what's really going on?

So I think that's, that, that was what she was kind of there for, in my opinion. 

Mr. Benja: Yeah. Speaking of the like the Justice Society, I really got a kick out of, you know, Hawkman coming in, talking all his noise, and then everybody like booing him, , all the people were like, Hey man, you at the wings? Shut up, 

Theo: boo.

What? What are you talking about at the movie theater? Yeah, 

Mr. Benja: no, I mean, and in the and in the actual movie, the, the, the, the citizens were all just like, Hey man, that's our, that's our man. Get outta here . Shut 

Theo: the hell up. You've heard I like that actress Al Hode, She's been around forever. He was in this show I used to love back in the day called Legacy Leverage, Excuse me.

And he played like a hacker kind of nerd character. And he's been, you know, slowly developing his stuff. And so, yeah, for him to kind of get this, he actually got second billing behind the Rock, which is awesome. So I like the actor, but yeah, that role's more of a punk role. It was kind of like, you know, look, I'm gonna get beat up outta rock.

I'm gonna try to fight him, but I wasn't gonna get beat up. But I did feel like he kinda, he, they needed that character cuz he represented what a true hero should be. Right. And what does that look like? And so so I, I understand why he was there and be honest with you, he did, He, he infused it with some.

Comedy, Let's be honest, Right at the end, . Yeah. You know, he just said, he said, Man, go kick his ass. I just like, you know, everybody like, Yeah, I'll do it. And so you know, and he, yeah. So, and then also I thought he did well with the Dr. Fake character, mm-hmm. , they, they both sold that relationship.

Right. You know, that they really were friends. And so I think that was necessary. And they, and he, and he sold the leadership aspect. Right. You know, talking to Anna Smasher. Right. And so I think there's a lot of things. The Hawkman did. Well, you know, I think the actor did well to kind of position all that, but as a character, you know, he came out as punk, as weak, and then they never really got into the whole reincarnation aspect of Hark Man, where they was just like, I'm not afraid of death.

But they didn't really explain why he's not afraid of death. Right. And so, or, or what his, you know, his, you know what he's trying to do, Right? He reincarnates and he's trying to find his, his lost love. They never got into all that with him. They didn't have time. So it was kind of like he was just there to service black Adam.

Mr. Benja: That's good. Yeah. When I, when I watched the movie, I actually thought to myself, Huh, Not the, the, the, the black hero was always the first one to get beat up. You know? That's, He didn't, he couldn't die here, but he got beat up first. I was like, Aw, man. 

Theo: He tried, tried though. He tried, he tried to go against the Rock man.

He got a couple El Lick in, but , he tried. 

Mr. Benja: Yeah. I actually thought that was, I actually thought that was a pretty, aside from the helmet, I thought it was a pretty decent portrayal of Hawkman. Like, okay, this, 

Theo: I mean, given what he was getting, I mean, it's very little, let's be honest, but, you know, they try to portray Hawkman as this guy that's just never gives up.

He just gonna always, you know, keep fighting. Which, you know, with that tenacity. Yeah. 

Mr. Benja: Gotta talk to the costume department about that helmet though. Oh, you didn't like it? Nah, it was alright. 

Theo: Alright. What you got next? What's the next character? 

Mr. Benja: So I was feeling Dr. Fate. I thought he took off his helmet a bit too much and they didn't get into the, the how much the helmet controls you, right?

Mm-hmm. . Cause that was the big thing about the helmet kind of controlling you. It's, it's really weird and they only lightly touched on it, so I suppose they're saving that for later. . But you know, I, I actually thought the kid was gonna end up touching the helmet at some point and him being the new doctor fate or whatever.

But I'm wondering what they're gonna do with that. Cause I like the character. I just don't think they, and they didn't have a lot of time. I understand. But I thought they were gonna go into it a little bit more about the helmet. 

Theo: Yeah. Do you, do you remember any Dr. Fake comedy comic book stories?

Did you read in just the Society of America? 

Mr. Benja: Not too much. I just remember that e everything I read of him, it was always this really heavy back and forth between him and the helmet. It like wasn't a nice thing. Like there was always just this concern of, you know, this helmet might wig out, man, we gotta, whenever he push the helmet on, we lose the character.

But they tone that down because maybe the actor wanted to show his face a lot more. Like, No, I can take the helmet off whenever I want. I'm a happy guy. It's like, Nah, man, that helmet's supposed to be torturing you. Supposed to messing with your soul, your psyche. Good point. Good point. And it may not even let go of your body if it doesn't want to.

So I thought they were gonna play that into it, but they just kind of played it as man with the magic helmet. 

Theo: Yeah, I mean so. You know, we always talk about Grace over at behind the trailers, but she kind of hinted at a little bit about the character themselves. I mean, so the original versions of he was older gentleman.

The thing about Justice Society of America, which is kind of cool, be honest with you, and if they kind of play it right, is like it's really a legacy. Thing. It's like, you know, my dad was part of Justice Society of America, I'm part of justice Society, of it's, it gets like passed down. And so like sometimes they have older characters in there with the younger, younger heroes to kind of show them away.

And so Dr. Fate, you know, is played by Pierce Bronson, a little older actor, but you know, he took the place of Jay Garrett and forgot the other, but they were the original Flash and Green Lantern right back in the day. And so, you know, they were older and they were trying to shepherd the younger version, the younger heroes into what it means to be a hero.

So I kind of like that about justice society and that's what they're trying to kind of infer with his character. Be honest with you, I like the character design. It looks just like the comic books. I always thought that was a cool design. That helmet was like, awesome. I loved it. That is bad. Yeah, but you are right.

I, like I said, I'm not a Justice Society of America. Like, you know, that's up there with the, What's that? The other one, the the Super Legion, what's it, The 3000, the ones in the year 3000, what they called the Legion of Superheroes. Yeah, Legion Superhero. Those two versions of superheroes. I, I have no clue in DC like what they do, what they're about.

But I did like you know, Dr. Fate as a character and like kinda, I mean, I mean, Austin Pierce Bronson was probably one of the better actors in the whole movie. I mean, to, to infuse that character with so much pathos and, and make you care about him and what happened to him. Basically, he died guys. So just putting out there and just to, and just be him being happy about that because the, the weight of having to see so many futures all the time, and now finally right before he dies, he sees nothing and he's happy about that.

Yeah. So I thought that was good. And the fact that he sold that, the fact that. Hawkman and him were friends, which, you know, who knows? But that's good acting . 

Mr. Benja: Yeah. You know what? And to make it, it, it, it wouldn't have been right for the, the characterization of the story. I mean, the different roles that characters have to play.

If he was the dark, solemn, I can't control myself. My psyche's all messed up. I'm a torture point. He couldn't play that role. He needed to play the, the older mentor kind of character. Yeah. And you know, in the history of that, that helmet it has talked about, well, hey, there was a previous guy that really worked out well, worked well with the helmet and, you know, they just were, were basically friends.

The helmet and the guy, maybe that's the next character who puts it on, maybe that character gets tortured and everything because he's not pierce brosnon or whatever. So I understand why they did it, and I, I think it's. I think it might have been a little too weird and bleak if it, if he had been comics.

Well, what people think of him. 

Theo: Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . Only thing I remember about him is there was this, I'm trying to remember what, that it's gonna be dark. It was a dark story line where basically he saw what had happened to a character like back in the day. And I was like, sh she got like brutally like harmed and it came to the forefront and it, it kind of fractured the, the, the D C U and I can't remember that the storyline was about, but I, I'll figure it out.

But yeah, once I kinda looked through that, I'll let you know, but it was like pretty intense and that's the only thing I remember. It was the character in the comic books. Right? Yeah. But someone made a good point. Doc, you know, once. Shout out to Grace at Behind the trailer, Dr. Fate and Hawkman, their powers are kind of tied to ancient Egypt.

And so, look, it makes sense for them to be there because, you know, if cardiac is supposed to be kinda like this Middle Eastern country, you know, to kind of have this story kinda setting Middle Eastern was like pretty cool. So, but you know, they didn't really go into that at all. , so that, that was, you know, they missed opportunity.

Yeah. 

Mr. Benja: What was the do you remember the son's name 

Theo: in what the movie or in the movie? If you give me two seconds to look on imdb , 

Mr. Benja: the reason I would ask is just because of the way they played the character. I just found out that a younger kid does actually get the black Adam, I mean the, the Dr.

Fate helmet and his name is Khali.

I wonder if they really are going to go that way anyway if you've ever watched Young Justice, there is a good story with with Dr. Fate, where, where Dr. Fate goes into the helmet and nobody knows what to do because the helmet's just sitting there all this time. And pretty good series. Actually, Young Justice, if you haven't watched that.

Theo: Oh, yeah. I used to watch it. I, I'm kind of behind a little bit, so I need to get caught up. But yeah, I mean, you know, I think yeah, Har Root was the name of his son. Her root, 

Mr. Benja: No, no, not the, the, the pro the Rock son. The kids son. I mean, not, not the Rocks family. Oh, the one 

Theo: with this, the skateboard and all that?

Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, Good point. Don't know, . Oh, figure it out. Yeah, I'll figure it out. Oh, his name was Amon. Amon, okay. 

Mr. Benja: Yeah. All right. So my theory is outta the window unless they change the name. 

Theo: Carry on. Yeah. Yeah. . So anyway, so, so, yeah, so, I mean, and be honest. So we don't really talk about them too much, but Adriana was his mother's name.

She was the one that freed black Adam, you know, initially in the movie. And you know, knew all the history. And in the comic books, I guess Adriana is supposed to be his love interest, Right? And they share the power together. But she just showed up as kind of like this you know, a force to kind of keep black.

Adam, you know, reminded that he's, you know, doing this for the country and all that. And also being the mother to the, the, the, the kid actor, the, the protagonist who was more about like, Hey, black Adam, you know, you need to, you know, do this for the people. Yeah. You know, he was the, you know, and it. You know, pretty much reminded black Adam of his son, who we know was interested in, you know, helping his people as well.

So, so anyway so I think there were some interesting things there with you know, the character of Dr. Fate and what he could do. Yeah. 

Mr. Benja: Did you notice there was the, you know, with the interactions that the mom and the son were giving, were giving black Adam, that was pretty reminiscent of how they played Terminator two.

Interesting. So, like the way they did Arnold for Nagger with, No, you gotta talk like this, you gotta, you know, use this catch phrase. Yeah. 

Theo: Well, you know what I mean? Someone made a good point. I mean, there was a lot of derivative stuff here, right? The slow boat kind of reminded me of quit Silver, right?

Mm-hmm. and, and, and and X-Men, you know how when you was fast. He sees everything in slow motion instead of everything up. So that there's a lot of slow mo here for that. You know, you're right, Terminator you know, that was a lot of reminiscent there. I never thought that. I didn't see that, that link.

What was the other link I saw that was kind of remini since some other movies, Man, our time kinda like Captain America. So there's a lot of little 

Mr. Benja: things. There's just like a hot spot . Yeah. 

Theo: They put in and make this movie work. 

Mr. Benja: Huh. I wonder how it plays to younger audiences who aren't as, who haven't run through this, these, these tropes so often.

Theo: Yeah. I don't think they care. It's the rock. 

Mr. Benja: Yeah. I mean, I'm saying it, it may be a lot more exciting to them because like, Dude, Black Adam did this and these kids haven't seen Terminator. They don't know about the unstoppable force that's just trying to figure out how to speak to people and everything, 

Theo: you know, So.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So so yeah, mean it was, I mean, you know, the Rock is funny, knows how, make you know 

Mr. Benja: something funny. Shout out to punk rock, aka skinny Rock

Theo: Yeah, I mean, so third act reveal, you know, we find out, you know, Rock, you know, is not the original Black a the black an we probably know was his son . And so that, that was kinda interesting. And so they actually have reveal where he, when he says Sam, he doesn't turn to a kid, he turns into a skinny rock.

And so that's hilarious. So they had a scene with him being Skinny Rock and beating that, beating the shit out of folks too. So I was like, Go ahead, Skinny Rock, doing your 

Mr. Benja: thing. You'll be good little buddy. . I love 

Theo: you big, your big head. So yeah, I, I liked it too. It was, it was fine. I mean, it's just like, you know, threw you out the movie a little bit cuz it's like he's so well known and so iconic.

He just like, . Okay. That's not the rock. Are they making 'em skinny? They try to do like Chris, you know, Chris Evans thing, so we'll 

Mr. Benja: see. Yeah, definitely. I didn't have too much to say about the other two characters. I thought they, they were fine. Did their job and lead the door open for, you know, a a Discovery plus series or something later on down the 

Theo: line.

Yeah. You know, it was sad. I mean, Cyclone, very pretty actress, very pretty powers, you know, but it's just like kind of useless , right? They try to give her one little character trait. Oh, she's smart, right? But it's just like, okay. So that was kind of useless. And then the actor who played Adams smash her down out, I thought there was something else there.

It was, He's definitely brought a comic relief, which was hilarious. Like, the biggest laugh in my theater was when he missed a rock, when he was big. And you said, Hey man, watch where you going? I almost hit you. And then, you know, smack down Hawkeye. I mean, Hawk Man. 

Mr. Benja: Yeah, I didn't, I didn't like laugh at that, but my theater got a big laugh outta that too.

Exactly. 

Theo: So they knew that was gonna hit. And so, and it's just everything. And then every time Haw guy looked at him said, You and me gonna talk. I mean, and then him and at the Rock at the end, he said, Don't push it. So I thought that was good. It was like some comedy, you know. But also, once again, playing chess, right?

They're trying to do two things with one character. Right. They also show, like, this is a legacy thing. His dad, his uncle, Uncle Al was also Adam Smasher one time. He best, matter of fact, it gets passed down, you know, to, to his nephew who has the same powers and see what he can do with it. And so he's kind of living up to expectation of the mantle of, you know, black a of Adams smashers.

So I thought that was kind of interesting. So, so they're trying to do like, you know, multiple things with characters. So I thought that was good. So, so really, I thought he was useful to kind of bring comedy and to kind of show that legacy thing. But I cyclone, I, I just don't know if she was there for 

Mr. Benja: yeah, but the big character reveal we're gonna get into it might, might, as, might as well.

We're, I mean, yeah, we're, we're on the, we're on this train of thought anyway, right? 

Theo: Yes. 

Mr. Benja: Let's do it. Yeah, I waited till the end credit scene. Well, wait a minute. I like the, I gotta say I like the villain, actually. You did. I I thought his design was pretty cool. We almost skipped past this. Yeah, with the, you know, the old school dude had the, had the upside down, starve David on his chest.

Good point. Not starve David, but un upside down, pentagram on his chest. And I was like, Okay, that's an interesting design for a king to of do. And then when he came outta hell, I was like, Oh shit, this dude looks like evil. I was Digg. 

Theo: Well, you know what? And, you know, shoot, the, so I thought to reveal the character too was kinda interesting.

It was like, number one, he was I guess he was like the family friend or something. He was part of the pact I was looking for the crown. He was secretly working for the, I guess the, what's it, the, in, in a gang or whatever it's called. And so he was kinda like, you know, sly with it. And then, you know, he was always trying to figure out like how he was gonna, you know, become this champion for the, for the, for hell basically.

And I thought that was interesting. It was almost kind like. I thought they were trying to say something here. It was like, Look, the crown, you turn upside down. And they, they did some visual cues like that, the very beginning with the king. I don't know if you remember, they showed the king and they would like show him, and then they showed him like upside down and you were like, What's that about?

And so they're kind of prepping you to like how the crown is perceived. It's like, and I think the Adriana, the, the, the historian, she kind of hinted at the crown is really a reflection of what's on top of the world. It's like, it's a, it is a perverse reflection of what's happening in the underworld.

And so you got turned upside down or look at reverse and you find out that when you die, you have to crown on you, you become the champion, get access to the demons. So I thought that was kind of interesting. And so to your point, the, the actor who plays the, the, the, the bad guy in this Marwan. Kaari. He was actually in Aladdin, played a bad guy there.

So yeah. So he played Ja Far in the live action version. Yeah. So yeah, good actor, man. So, I mean, you know, I liked how he played it and then the, the reveal of the bad guy. I mean, I mean, be honest with you. I saw that coming. I know, I, I know you don't know if you did, but it was pretty like when the rock went into the hole and I was like, Okay, we're probably gonna have one more bad guy pop up.

My son was like, Is this over? I said, Nah, it's not. We probably got another 40 minutes . So, 

Mr. Benja: so the only thing they got me and I, I kind of didn't see coming, but then after re reo in my head I got when they were in the little force field mm-hmm. , he took the shot. And right after he took the shot at the same time, he almost like undid the force field.

You remember that? Yes. Cause he had his little button. I was like, Why would you do that? Why would you undo the force field? And, you know, and it kind of stuck with me as a weird movie thing, but, But of course then it's like, no, you have to die before you can live. And he knew that, you know, he was just gonna get, even if the kid lived or not, he was probably going to die anyway.

So I didn't catch that right off the bat, but then I was like okay. I liked it. Did 

Theo: you how he went out? So that's the scene I'm talking about that with the kid. 

Mr. Benja: With your kid, right? 

Theo: Well that, you know, when he would kind of got killed and became the champion, but when Champion did the, what was, I don't remember what the creature's name was, but when he became the creature from hell, basically the fight against everybody.

and then he fought black Adam, you know, at the end. Yeah, that was pretty intense. black Adam, he said, Tell you, you know, black, you know, What'd you say? He did his little catchphrase and split him in half. I was like, that was the scene. I was like, I don't know what to do right now. Talk to my son about this.

So I'm just legal alone. Law . 

Mr. Benja: Yeah, man. Pulled him, pulled him in. How? From with the horn. So I, I looked around and, you know, I didn't see anybody like freaking out, but I got a few claps in the audience, like Yeah. From the teenage 

Theo: kids. Yeah. I just like, you know, it's like bloodless. Anyway, so he was a bad guy, so I had, didn't say too much, but it's just like, he was like, Ah,

They tried like, what's the, what's the, what's worst thing we can do to this act, this, this character show that I'm still a bad guy, but I, I, you know, I'm killing a bad guy. There you go. I think it 

Mr. Benja: kind of got softened that whole vibe by Hawkman coming back. Cause when he did the reincarnation thing showed up again.

There were claps in the audience. They were like, Okay, I don't have to go away feeling so, so down because two guys that I like died. 

Theo: Hmm. So Dr. Fate, well, you know, they never really explained that either. I mean, so I know guys would get into the, the weeds on here, but you know, it's kinda like Dr. Fate died and the helmet was still there, but then I thought you couldn't touch it unless, you know you can control the helmet.

And all of a sudden, Hawkman knew all the powers. Right. How to replicate himself. He knew how, you know, I was like, What was that about? 

Mr. Benja: Yeah, I think at some point they're like, Dude, we don't care unless somebody can figure this out. We're turning in the script tomorrow morning. So , 

Theo: I guess you can tell when people are just like, Ah, we not gonna think about this one.

We're just gonna assume people, Cause this things happen. Sometimes the movies and TV's, like, why? Like for instance, why would they bring the rock back to their, their house? I never got, That was the thing that threw me out the very beginning. Remember, they, they saw, he killed all the, the army people. Yeah.

He got injured, He fell down and she said, Oh, let's take him back to my house in my son's bed. Well, 

the 

Mr. Benja: kid, the kid did recognize him at at least a symbol in his chest. He, he, the kid I thought always recognized him as the big guy in the statue. So I think they may have been connecting him already as a.

Because he, Well, 

Theo: like I said, that's a stretch though, cuz like, after all he did, I mean, literally he basically massad the whole army. easily , and he fell from the sky. Oh, let's just take him home. 

Mr. Benja: Yeah. That, that's, that's my comic book story explanation, you know, So, Yeah. Yeah. I dunno. And yeah, go 

Theo: on. No, no, no.

I think that's, that's enough. And then so yeah. Man let's, well let's talk about a few other things here. What's it, Anterium you have any thoughts on that new entity? New knew McGuffin. ? 

Mr. Benja: Yeah. I don't know if it was. You know, all the lightning that they were displaying in the movie or, you know, the big braley look of the rock.

But when I heard attorney, the first thing I thought of was the Kingdom of Eternia, where he manned from. And I was like, Eternia, what's this about? And oh, it's like, it's like a vibranium. What is this? You know, coming straight out of Wakanda or something. So that's what I first thought of when I heard it.

Hmm. Yeah. And I 

Theo: think that's where they kind of go with it, right? They're trying to, you know, 

Mr. Benja: it even has a blue look like vibranium, 

Theo: right? Yeah. No. You know, So once again, crib from other comic books, right? storylines. This is God. Even Grace said they even have their own kind of version. Wakanda forever.

Right. And I get their, the little triangles. Right. Throw up your diamonds, you know, you know the rock, The Rocke 

Mr. Benja: could not, I could not stop. I was thinking about that and I was thinking about ddp Diamond Dallas page. Every time I saw that ddp, I loved him. 

Theo: Yeah. You know, to rock, you know, Rock is a, you know, he know, he knows.

He knows he, Yeah. 

Mr. Benja: I wonder if he called, you know, Diamond Dallas Page and was like, Hey dog, you need to go see this movie, Promise you don't let anybody ruin it for you. I need you to see this. Or did he just talk, talk to him beforehand? I don't know. 

Theo: Man, it's funny. 

Mr. Benja: So you said, you said McGuffin did it work for you in the story, the whole attorney.

Theo: I mean, it's just like, whatever, man. I mean, it really never explained it what it was and why it, I guess they were trying to say that hurt him, but did they show that in the past that it hurt him? I don't know. I can't recall that The Crown, when they touched it, you know, hurt him. But I guess, you know, he's got, has some weakness, right?

You can't just be all powerful with no weaknesses at all. So, so that was his weakness, you know, in turning turn uranium or whatever that supposed to protect him. So yeah, it was okay. It wasn't, it, you know, they're trying to cram a lot of different ideas here and then Grace was trying to explain, and I get what she's trying to go with, but look, they're trying to establish something here, right?

They're trying to basically, This is, this is our vision of the D C U, right? So it's like we're gonna make up, we're gonna find all the best ideas from all the comic book stories and we're gonna put 'em in our version and then they stick, They stick cuz they worked . So that's how I 

Mr. Benja: looked at it to totally, Dude, you could take this everywhere, man.

You know, if you go on to go up against Aquaman, you know and what's that material they had in Aquaman, you know, that they made the red lasers out of, from from your boy black man to, there's, there's connections there. There's all kinds of stuff, man. So that, yeah, I, I just love that the DC EU has their own weird glowy rock now.

Theo: Well the thing is, they don't have any control. There's no mastermind behind us. Cuz you know, you got, like we talked about, they got Todd Phillips on his thing with the Joker. That's a whole different version. You got, you know, the Batman now that, you know, is a whole different version. So it's like, These visionaries are current in their own version of what the DCE is about, and there's no cohesiveness.

And that's, that's the problem. 

Mr. Benja: Well, well, will will big money be able to rein it in? 

Theo: I mean, like, if you knock out 

Mr. Benja: some successes and have big money, can you just tell all the other directors like, Hey, shut up. 

Theo: We got this. Well, I mean, I hate to bring her up. Oh. This is like third time bring grace up again.

But I mean, she makes a good point, is this short term thinking just to get money, get the money back. So, so Warner Brothers Discovery can so sold, sell off to Universal. I mean, it does, does seem like a play here. So so yeah, I, I definitely see that they're just, you know, this is huge hit, This would be huge for them, you know.

So it doesn't matter what ideals they put in here, , if they stick, they stick, and then if the Rock is making money for 'em, and if this becomes like a big hit for them Which is gonna be tough. I mean, you know, you got black. I mean, they're already saying what's it called? Black Panther too, kind of forever is already tracking like 150 million, so opening.

So I think, you know but if it makes, you know, decent money, couple hundred million, yeah, I could definitely see, Hey, Rock, what you wanna do, Man, here's some here, here's some more money. Go make something else. Put Kevin Hart in there. Maybe he could be the next CNO

Mr. Benja: I just, I just, I just saw I just saw it like a t to Kevin Hart with his shirt off and 

Theo: he could be Mr. Fantastic. He's actually's terrific. This is terrific. But he's kinda short, but he could be Mr. Terrific. 

Mr. Benja: He actually kind of fit, man. I didn't know. That's what I'm saying. So yeah, anything could happen, right?

Oh, oh my gosh. Don't, don't let me start bringing Black Sands Entertainment into it.

Theo: Yes, 

Mr. Benja: Make a play. Might make a play. All right. So it was in the Middle East also. Did you like the way they, they framed that you said Egypt and all that, but did it work for you? 

Theo: Yeah, it was cool. I mean, I liked that, you know, so that was pretty, I liked that. Yeah, that's all I got. 

Mr. Benja: That's, that's all I got.

you know, you know what's funny? I have seen a lot of reactions from, from people in the Middle East and India for, for whatever reason, reaction videos. I thought they were big over here. They're like, they're, they're big over in the Middle East, Pakistan, India also. And they really like just, I guess re-watching people, re-watching with other people.

And so now I kind of wanna see people reacting to this just to get that kind of vibe of, hey, not everything has to happen in America. Hmm, 

Theo: I agree. So we'll see what happens. You know, with all that, I think you know, I like what they were trying to go with it, different aspect. I mean, it literally stayed in that one country the whole time.

So I felt sorry for that country, man. It was like, it so much destruction in that country. I'm like, dude, I felt sorry for, I mean, basically it was the beginning. They fought freaking Adam Smasher, you know, knocking over statues, freaking the end. They fought throughout the movie. They were chasing scooters in the air.

I mean, people were still working, man. Dude. I mean, after the first incident, I mean, let's take some time off . Let's, let's do a, that's all day of morning, man. Let's just shut everything down. 

Mr. Benja: Oh, man. Shout, Shout out to the the traders market that got messed up, man. . Oh wait, they did. They, they only went to one other place and that was the the underwater base, right?

Theo: Yeah, they went there. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's say very contained movie and the studio, sound studio somewhere. Probably not in Atlanta, but somewhere . 

Mr. Benja: Yeah. So yeah, and I, you know, it didn't stray too far from the comic book movie formula like at all, but it was different enough with different vibes and different characters that it kind of worked.

Theo: Mm-hmm. . Yeah. Yeah, I think so. And I think they're trying to make a, but I think they are trying to make a play that this is different than your comic book Black A Adam, cuz you know, he wants to rule, you know, he literally is the king of, you know, card act and I think Barack explicitly at the end smashes the, the throne to show Ain't no rule here.

So I thought that 

Mr. Benja: was kinda interesting. You know, that pose when he sat on the throne, that's like a classic comic book cover of Black Adam. 

Theo: Yes. It is. And so he just sat there just like, Nah. They're like, What? feels wrong. Yeah, I know. So, I mean, you know, And, but you saw what they did also, you know, hit the, you know, when he was first black, Adam was all black and, you know, no cape or nothing.

And then when he became back, he had a cave, he had the gold bracelets, he was back. You know, it's just like more, you know, anti-hero friendly version. Right. And so you know, I mean, I get it. Rocket shine, make him likable. 

Mr. Benja: They even prepared us for that with the, you know, statistically not a lot of heroes wear capes, you know?

And Yes, And, and then they put one on 'em. So it's like, okay, man, 

Theo: you, you're right, man. It's like you could see the calculations going to this movie. It's like, okay, business, we gotta separate this from dc Oh, we gotta set everybody else for this. We gotta set rock as a hero. Oh, we gotta set up Justice Society.

Oh, we gotta set up this Middle Eastern. We gotta be respectful of that. It was like all these calculations were going to this movie and, you know, and it was just like, wow, , you can just, you can almost see, you can see the, the thread, right? All the, all the, all the seams and, and how they built this movie, which is fine.

I mean, it's very, it is very heavily produced, let's just say that. 

Mr. Benja: Yeah. And you know, I think that was my, my issue. I'm not an issue so much, but you know, usually I have a lot to say. How to take apart a movie. I'm like, well, I would've done this and changed that for this and that. But I was like, after I started thinking about it, like, no, they did a lot and for all that they were trying to do, it would be pretty hard to pull out little piece here and there without the rest of it falling down or feeling hollow.

Theo: Yeah. So, yeah. You know, so I think they did the best they could. 

Mr. Benja: I don't know this direct, I don't know this director at all though. You're talking about directors and the director for black, Adam was, was named I dunno how to pronounce his name. John May Collet Sarah. Yeah. 

Theo: I'll take I that I've never Yeah, I know.

I saw it. I, I didn't know who the hell he was. . I was like, Who's this guy? I mean, I thought they're passable. I mean, you know. So this gets into cgi. How was the CGI compared to other movies? 

Mr. Benja: It was good. Like, I didn't, I didn't think it was Top of the li top, top of the line. But there was so much of it.

You kind of like, were okay. There's a lot of this. And they're playing it kind of all the time. Like a lot of his floating and fighting scenes, you could tell, you know, the, they didn't spend a lot like on the zombies. It's like, whatever. Yeah know, just, just make 'em look dirty , and, and nobody will care too much.

But there was so much of it and it kept moving that, you know, one thing with CGI and computer graph, any type of added vfx, they have to flow with the context of your visual understanding of what's going. So when you've got a good visual understanding of what's going on and they throw stuff in to add to it, you're like, Okay, this works out.

But if they really want you to believe this is a touching moment and all of a sudden everything goes from realistic to CGI and you're like, Eh, threw me off. What's going on? Who directed this? And I think they just played it relatively well, so it didn't bother you too much. I 

Theo: agree. So yeah, I think they had time to finish out.

And even some of the fights, I mean, it was really visually pretty spectacular, the visual fighting. Even the close up fighting, you know, wasn't a lot of rubbery characters and stuff like that when they were fighting ice beat and they kept a lot of scenes with Just Rock was just floating in the air.

So I'm sure that wasn't cheap. So Rock was like, You gonna pay me to be in this movie? I wanna float everywhere I go.

Mr. Benja: I wanna float all over the place. 

Theo: Float on y'all. I mean, it was, it was basically a character statement, right? When he stopped floating at the end, near the end. Right. When he, Good point, Whitly gave up himself. Right. So it's like, you know, before that I'm a God, but when I choose to give up my godhood, Yes.

Then you can see me walking. 

Mr. Benja: Totally. Where do you wanna go from 

Theo: there? Let's just talk about the, the, the elephant in the room. Oh, right. . Let's just get into it. 

Mr. Benja: The red, the red and blue elephant in the room. Yeah. 

Theo: So let's just spoil it. Hey guys. Spoiling. We're about to do it. About to do it. Superman shows up in the, I.

Final credits, mid credit scene, if you will, of this, this exam. And basically it was after Weller tells black Adam, watch your back. You know, We'll, we'll stop you. You ain't got nobody to stop me. I'm too badass. We got folks. And then all the shadows, black and black, Black comes a shadowy figure. And guess what?

It's Henry Ka at Superman.

And he basically says, Look, this is, you know, the world is nervous and then I'm here to check you. And that's it. Five seconds, literally. So and my theater, everybody clapped was excited. Did you witness the same thing? Yeah, 

Mr. Benja: man, my people got hyped. I was in a theater where a lot of people were already leaving, you know, it's the afternoon crowd, maybe not so much more of the hardcore evening crowd, which you would've gotten.

No, we got 

Theo: afternoon crowd. It was around like two when we went. 

Mr. Benja: Oh, it was around two. Okay. Well, yeah, around the same time. Yeah. Everybody was leaving. I was 

Theo: surprised. I was like, You guys, what's wrong with my son was, my son was like, Why they leaving? They don't they know. I was like, Yeah, . I taught you well,

Mr. Benja: Yeah, man. No, I, I got hyped and the people around me got hyped and, you know, I like the way they played it. Kind of a little standoff and then the rock finished it off with the little smirk, you know, So I, I was, I was digging that. I was like, that's a perfect little bow to, to, to wrap up this whole thing.

Theo: So, like I was mentioning earlier The Rock and Henry Cav share the same manager. Mm-hmm. , AKA Danny Garcia. So the, remember they were trying to get Henry Cav to show up in Shaza and they did their headless Yeah. Cameo, which was kind of cheap. So, you know, I think, you know, Corn to, you know, other sources on the internet it, Grace, I guess the thing that the equation was like, we're gonna do this movie with the Rock, everybody's gonna be excited.

But then I guess when he got booed at ComicCon for saying that, you know, he could kick, you know, Superman's ass. Yeah. They were like, Oh, we gotta get Henry Caval here as Superman. And so, you know, he just, you know, worked with his partner and they figured it out with Henry Caval and looks like, you know, they filmed it back in September, so literally like a month ago.

So to kind of get this out and it kind of shows a little bit cuz it's like literally he's in the black, it's a silhouette for like, Five seconds before you actually see him on state, on, on, on the screen. So kudos to them. Good for them. That's a major power play cuz after he didn't show up in anything for Warner Brothers forever and yeah, and literally he probably could have went to Marvel.

I think Marvel was kind of cor courting him to looking at him for Bond to get him to kind of commit to least showing up again. One more time. And I think he's gonna show up in a flash 0.1 more time as Superman. That's a big, huge get, get for them to do that. And so is he gonna come back? As in men still too?

No selling. But Danny, I mean this movie does Good Rock and Danny Garcia will have all the leverage at that point. And so Warner Brothers is gonna have no excuse but to you see that, you see that truck over there, Mr. Benja. See that big, you know, 

Mr. Benja: 16 wheeler. The one's backing up. 

Theo: The one's backing up. Guess what?

Nothing but nothing but dollars. Nothing but dollars. That's gonna be over at Henry Campbell's house tomorrow. . So, so anyway business, that's the business side. But what about on the show side? What are your thoughts about that? What does this mean for T C U? 

Mr. Benja: You know, as I said it's, it's a play that that really allows the, it gives the story of the D CEU so much more depth, cuz it doesn't feel, this movie didn't feel like a bunch of random shots.

It felt. Hey, we could be doing this, or we could be going in this direction, or what about this direction? There were so many of those that you, you just want more from it. Mm-hmm. and with Superman being in the mix, as I said, you know, with the perfect little bow to put on top of this package, it, it says, this is legitimate d ceu.

You know, we weren't just tearing up posters and all that. We're, we're there. We have, you know, man of steel showing up. We have the rock. You know, you know it's gonna get internet buzz. So it's, I I just think it was a great move to let people know that the D C U is not done. You're gonna get the fans hype, get 'em, get 'em wanting for, for more, and somebody over at Warner Brothers gonna be like, Hey, there's nobody controlling this.

Let's go make some money guys. And, you know, put a lot behind it. It's, I love that's totally good on the story aspect. I mean, come on, dog. Every, almost every aspect of this story can be worked into something else, and I think that's one of the things that makes it really good. You know, as I said, Cyclone Adam Smasher, you know, they got the younger crowd.

They can go off and do some, some weird series or some you know, younger themed characters or a TV series. You know, you've got Dr. Fate learning more about the mask and the helmet. There's things that can be done there, the whole area with the, the anterium pull out stories from there. Maybe who, who is this inter gang?

I thought they were a new group. Apparently they've been around since like the 1970s I looked up, so mm-hmm. , So that's, that could be the D C's version of of Hydra or something. I don't know. Yeah, just so many different angles and so yeah, show, show wise, I mean, I loved it. 

Theo: I love it. Yeah. So, so more to come on that.

But yeah, like I said, everybody's excited about what this means cuz it's been a lot back and forth. Right. Between Henry Caval and, you know, d c I mean, you know, someone made a good point. Is he a good Superman? I don't know, but you know, he's a Superman we got Right. And so it's kinda like, you know, if you wanna see Superman, I mean, you know, I can't, I'm sure there's some younger guys, I mean, the guy who played Superman on tv, Lois and Lane Taylor something, I think he's passable.

I mean there's a general, I mean, Superman has a, a general, It's about, Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Tyler Holin or something like that. But he plays Superman there. I 

Mr. Benja: don't like that. I mean, I don't like him as Superman. Oh, you don't? Okay. I mean, he's a little too Clark Ken for me. 

Theo: Yeah. You know, it's hard. But Henry Crowell does No Clark Clean.

I don't even know what Clark Clinton looks like for him. It's just like, I'm always super . Pretty much Christopher Reeb embodied both. And so that's, that's division. But I don't think they're gonna take a risk on a new, new actor anymore, So, so we'll see. But yeah, powerful, powerful move. Business moves, you know, Ball baller move.

We'll see what they're gonna do next for the future for you know, man is still too and what that means. So I'm excited about it. 

Mr. Benja: Holy crap. I did not know you know, Danny Garcia was fit like 

Theo: this. Yeah, she got some guns. Dude. She been working out soon. She, yeah, I mean, you know, she, she'll beat your ass so 

Mr. Benja: late at night gym sessions, trying 

Theo: to, I mean, she was married to, she was married to the Rock.

I'm sure they were working out together, man. What. Oh yeah, . 

Mr. Benja: All right, that's all I got on this

Theo: Leave that alone

So anything else, Mr. Benja? 

Mr. Benja: Oh, man. You know, I'm, I'm just glad to say here movies are still around. They're giving me this much excitement, so I'm, I'm so digging. I'm so happy. 

Theo: Yeah, same here, man. Good to Cool to the Rock. Thanks for making a better sh movie than I thought it should have been. So so yeah, it was a good time.

I mean, literally, we only gotta have two more of the blockbusters Black Black Panther, two Honda forever, and probably avatar two. So it's been, it is been slim pickings, you know, theaters unless you like horror like that. But, so, you know, we're gonna have some blockbuster movies coming out here, so I think people will enjoy that to move there.

So I'm excited about that. So overall, go check out Black Adom. I think we both recommend checking it out. We gave some spoilers, so hope you. Go check it out. Go listen to the rest of this. But yeah, I think we, we, we got a vision for what's go the D C U could do in the future. Absolutely. All right, man.

Well, hey everyone Mr. Ben, anything going on for the week? 

Mr. Benja: You know I'm gonna try to stay away from all this high fructose corn surf that's going around Halloween time. Might watch some watch, watch some horror movies to get in the, to get in the mode, but, you know, that's about it. Yeah.

Oh, wait, yes. I got, I gotta, I gotta prepare my Kickstarter also. Yeah. Oh, 

Theo: okay. Okay. That's happening. Side event. Excited about it. Traveled to last week, DC area and Atlanta area, so I'm probably gonna be around this week. Got a big event coming up. Blacks in technology. We will be in Orlando doing pound discussion.

Yeah. So, so we'll be on lookout for that. If you're interested in technology and healthcare, go check us out Orlando. So yeah, go shout out to that over at the car n Springs on Friday at four o'clock. So we'll be doing a panel discussion discussing that. 

Mr. Benja: You know, I was gonna write a, I tried designing a logo for blacks and technology one time and they didn't accept it.

Oh, 

Theo: okay. Okay. . 

Mr. Benja: Yeah, it was a, you've been around, It was kind, it was kind of a wild logo, so I get it. But I thought it. I 

Theo: love it. I love it. So, yeah, so guys, go check it out. In Orlando Friday October 28th and our partner All Springs at 4:00 PM will be our session. So with that being said, Mr.

Benja go ahead, close it out. Hey guys, thank you for listening. You know, show versus this is your weekly take on pop culture. You know, definitely go check us out. Please light subscribe and comment as show versus business on Twitter, YouTube, Instagram that says at Spotify, iTunes, or wherever you list to podcast.

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