SvB: Disney wants Adult content? Elon Musk has a new CEO AI watch Google vs ChatGPT and the $100M Offer for Tucker Carson. Ep 116

The guys, @mrbenja and @the_real_theo_harvey, discuss how Disney wants Adult content,  Elon Musk has a new CEO for twitter, the latest AI watch Google vs ChatGPT and the $100M Offer for Tucker Carlson.

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Theo: This is show versus business, your weekly take on pop culture from two very different perspectives if you host Theo Harvey and Mr. Benja coming with all the relevant information to get your week started. So guess what guys? We got a hot one today, so we're gonna cover the following. Disney is looking to buy Hulu.

Does it really wanna get into adult content? Elon Musk has a new c e o coming in from n b NBCUniversal to run Twitter. Watch out Twitter weekly. AI watch Google versus chat G P T. We are moving from the streaming wars to the new phase of the AI Wars. A hundred million for Tucker Carson. That's right.

Social media business influencer Patrick Bet. David is looking to shake up things. And then finally, guardians of the Galaxy three. We're gonna have our review with spoilers. So Mr. Benja, man, how was your week? 

We some Good Doing good, man. Doing good. I, I've been, I've been banging out my flow working that system.

So I got all my podcast episodes that I've been doing on Instagram, flowing into my podcast streams, making things happen. I am, I'm really happy to be talking about systems because I mean, I, I was doing that earlier today and Mother's Day, I was talking about my mom. She, it put me on the systems game and it just all came back together.

Oh, this is 

great. Mama Johnson, man. Resting power man. Definitely. Man, yeah, mother's Day was a great day, spending time with family and you know, I got sisters, wives, mother-in-laws, mothers, aunties, so yeah, it was a lot, lot to, to to do. But it was definitely world worth it, spending time with family.

Then one of my nieces graduated so that was what we kind of did. Over in Orlando. So fun times man. Yeah, man. Like you man, just getting this content flow, you know, working out. I got my, my marketing team ready to go. Got my main marketer person, she's running that now. So she, cuz she was an intern, so now she's jumping up into like running marketing.

So I got someone else kind of doing the social media stuff. We got a VA helping her. So I got a whole team now. So if I see something I don't like, I just send 'em an email, say, I don't like this, change this. So, so when people ask me how we do that, I, I, I don't know. I've done it at least one time you know, some facet or whatever, but yeah, right now she's kind of running things.

So I'm feeling positive about the marketing angle. I mean, it really is a, a marketing world. I'm seeing that more and more because, you know, it's bringing in the leads, we can do more things. So I'm really excited about getting that engine going. You know, I'm really gonna try to ramp it up in the second half of the year cuz yeah, it's been going pretty good, man.

So I'm glad I put the investment into it. It's just been it's been a journey as you, as you can attest. So so hopefully you and I will be on the other end in the next, you know, three or five years, and we'll just be sitting back counting the views, man, counting the views, counting the the community we build.

And so I'm excited about that. 

Mr.Benja: Yeah, man. It's like you're talking about the, you know, we got the Elon watching everything, these influencers and some of their, if there's some joker watching going on, gotta watch these jokers. And I'm like, all right, because when you're on the cutting edge, man, it's like there's some, some stuff going on out in the cutting edge.

You just, you're not prepared 

Theo: for. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And one of the things you kind of mentioned to me, I did some research, I found a lot of 'em are, are using that tool that you told me. So may reveal to the, to the, to the listeners later. But I was surprised that, man, this one guy, he's kind of in my niche in this healthcare kind of influencer market.

He, he's got like 500 people on that platform. I was like, where'd this guy come from? And he's getting, doing, you know, virtual events. He's doing a live event in Clearwater. I'm like, man, so these guys are, you know, I I would say 99% of the u of the populace would never know who these people are, but it don't matter, man.

They got 500 followers and, and that would show up for an event that he does in Clearwater, that that's, that's when you know you got some juice. 

Mr.Benja: That's right. 

Theo: So I'm excited, man. So yeah, man. Shoot, man. I guess look, I think we're so excited, man. You just wanna jump into the first story. 

Mr.Benja: Wait a minute, hold on.

Before we do that, there was a question you had asked me before you were talking about how I, how I did something at, I said I'll just explain it on the pod now. I forgot what it was. 

Theo: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, do you wanna talk about your systems high level process flow or anything you learning as you're kind of putting, getting back out there on the on the innerwebs, if you will?

Mr.Benja: No, I think well, just the main thing is, you know, I'm, I was always on more of the research and development, you know, understanding the operations, figuring out what to do, and a lot of the marketing and. Sales and branding side, a lot of that is actual on the ground pavement work, where you're just out there running the play and running that plan and it's like, okay, there's a whole different vibe to this.

And I've just really been trying to get myself into that mental mindset of, you know, wake up, do this, and, you know, I have my triggers that, that set me up into the next thing. Mm-hmm. Like you know, once I, once I put water in this certain bottle, it's like, okay, I put water in the bottle. It's a little simple trigger, but when I do it, that means I'm getting ready to go do my podcast thing and I have a simple water before I start the actual podcast.

So whenever I put water in the bottle, it's just like this whole trigger system that go, starts into, into effect. It's really weird, but it's cool. No, I love it. 

Theo: Well, it's funny I use that same analogy of my marketer. I was like telling her, look, you know, we, we, we have the, the faucet. You know, the traffic, I just gotta turn it up so, you know, make sure you have everything set up so once it starts dripping into this, this funnel, if you will, you know, we know where we're gonna get our text messaging from.

We're gonna get our email, we're gonna start our, you know, nurture campaigns, you know, we're gonna do all this other stuff. So, so it's funny, the analogy of water is very apropo, cuz I I see that as well. 

Mr.Benja: Yeah. How are you with with trying stuff out and then, you know, reintroducing that back into the system, like throwing something out and getting it right back and 

Theo: Yeah.

You know, we're just trying to get, you know, something core st solid first. But yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm definitely key, I think. Marketing is experimentation. Cause you just don't know what's gonna work, so you gotta try different things. So I am kind of exploring that, how we can do that. My, my biggest goal is always just get consistency first.

You know? Yeah. Get something work, you know, get something done, be consistent, then see if it works. Yeah. And if it doesn't work, then, but at least the you know, so I agree there is a process that we need to create a feedback loop to figure out what's working, what's not. And, and a lot of times you're just looking at the data, right?

You know, how many clicks did we get? How many downloads are we getting? How many views? So, so still slow, but. It, it, one thing I like about this process is it accumulates. So yes. Right now, you know, it's, it's triple, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a drip, if you will, but over time, you know, it's gonna build and build and, and it, and it, you know, I think Alex Ozi said this best, you know, just media compounds on itself.

Yeah. Cause you just don't know who's watching you, you know, anytime. And you'll be surprised, you know, you had some content came out, you know, maybe two, five years ago, and just all of a sudden people are like, that stuff is crazy. They're just all on it. Like, matter of fact, for instance, and I'll let you go, okay.

Okay. But my Laker I, you know, I did some Laker content, like maybe like, you know, a couple months ago when they sucked, right? So obviously the Lakers are doing well. You know, hence my hat guys, the Lakers are Los Angeles Lakers are my favorite team in basketball. They are doing well. So they're going to the Western conference finals.

And so that content's starting to blow up. I mean, you know, I'm getting like thousands of views, but it was something I put out there like, you know, in the middle of like February. So, you know, that's just, that's just what happens with this stuff, I guess. Yeah, 

Mr.Benja: no, the whole, the whole process is weird. I'm used to being that guy, you know, just alone off in the in his in his workshop with the cauldron cooking up stuff.

And then I come out, all right, try this and don't talk to me until it's, until you tried it. Slam the door. I went back to my, my email list, right? Mm-hmm. And I went back and said, you know what? I'm working on this this book and you know, it's going good. It's going well, and I'm final, I'm kind of getting in the final draft of it.

That's why you haven't heard too much of me talking about it. But I was like, let me go back to some of my email people. And I just sent out, I went back to my email list, looked through the tools, and were like, okay, who are the people who responded to these emails? I was like, oh, okay, well we got these people.

So I went back and sent them like a preview copy. I was like, Hey, what do you think of this? And you know, this is gonna come out soon. And Doug, now I got like pages of feedback. Nice page of feedback and I was like, I totally did not expect that. But going back to that, well getting that water and keeping that drip going, so now I know they're gonna be the first ones on to help me push it and they're gonna feel they've got that special connection because we talked over email.

Yeah. Feedback and 

Theo: man, you know, this is amazing how this works. I mean, you know, for us who didn't grow up in this, we're, you know, we're not digital natives, if you will, cuz you know, we were pre-internet, but also this pre-social media and, and I just bring this up because you heard about that basketball player Ja Morant, right?

He got caught again on social media this weekend with a gun in his hand. I don't if you know the story. He was caught a couple months ago. With a gun in his hand, you know, and on social media. And he got suspended for a couple days. He did this whole, you know, apology tour. I'm sorry it won't happen again, but he did it again.

You like, what is going on? But then you gotta think he's 23. You know, this just what they do, man. They, that's all they live for being on social media. That's, that's all they know. Right. And even though he did the whole apology tour, said, I'll never, you know, be on social media again for a gun. It's like, he just like, wait a minute, hold on.

So, to me, the simplest thing just don't be on social media, but for him is that, that must be like, not breathing number, 

Mr.Benja: can't, can. That's impossible. Yeah. Yeah. 

Theo: It's like for his age group, I guess it's impossible for them not to be on social media, whereas, you know, I could go off, so I, matter of fact, even my own content, I don't even look at for like weeks, you know?

I just, I That's good. So so it is interesting to me to kind of see, you know, how the world has evolved and, you know, I have to evolve with it. But yeah, this is not a, a, a, a natural emotion for, you know, for, for us from a different, you know, time, if you will, because you're right, we grew up in a time where you just, you kind of win in a bubble, you know, you win your own world and you just emerge fully formed, right?

And you just like, okay, guess that guy's? The, I guess that's the man, but now it's more like you, you build in public, you know, you, everybody sees everything, sees the work, and matter of fact, that that attracts them 

Mr.Benja: to you more. And then people go back and look at your past. And like, like I was thinking about Doja cat, you know how she was in all the chat rooms?

Mm-hmm. So people went back and they found like recordings of these chat rooms and I'm like, who is recording random chat rooms? You know? And it's like now they got dirt on her and she was just like, listen, I was just being stupid and chat rooms. Everybody does that. And it's like, this is crazy. But yeah.

Yeah, split personality kind of stuff. I'm, that's actually what I'm wondering about people developing a personality and then a persona and they 

Theo: really can't. Well, wow. How about this man for a split personality? I think we got our next story that they have a different personality. It's emerging, not what you think.

So we're going to do story number one. That's right guys. Disney, the family entertainment business. They're looking to get into adult content. What, what? That's right. That's right, Mr. Benje. So Disney is looking to buy Hulu which is the streaming service out there that has a lot of racy content. For those that don't know, shows like Pam and Tommy, which is about the sex tape that by celebrities back in the nineties has a lot of different kind of, you know, diverse content, which is not known for being Disney type content.

Disney's like, you know what? We, we want to, I think we're gonna signal to the market that we want to buy it. So this came exactly from the earnings call from Bob Iger, the, the, the current CEO of Disney. He says, the best chance for us to grow this business. Is via a combination of the content that is on Disney plus with general entertainment.

He called what effectively would be the combination of Disney Plus and Hulu into one streaming service. A very strong combination. So Mr. Benja, I mean this is interesting. This is almost a change in the tune when he first came back in November, what's going on? Disney Man, are they why are they looking to get into this big conglomerate of entertainment and kind of pulling away from family only entertainment?

Mr.Benja: Well, you said earlier that it's, we're in a marketing world and this is marketing branding. And I wonder if we're getting to a place where Disney is kind of starting to say, guys, let's be real. I mean, we're in, we're in these waters and we keep saying that we don't like certain things, but let's be real.

We're all on the internet. We're all doing. Doing shady business, let's just be a little more open with our content. I think maybe they're trying to push towards that point where more things are family acceptable, just because that's what people are actually doing. Not because of a veneer of acceptable, but it's like, Hey, maybe we can get this to be a little more or a little less strict.

You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 

Theo: I would say you know, I think this. If we wanna be on the positive side, I would say yes. This is something aligned with, we talk about this like Snoop Dogg, his brand was like hardcore rap, but he's expanded his brand so much. You know, we call brand extension that he can do a gospel song music, he can do you know, show up at wwe, he can do kids, you know, album.

So it's like his brand is so expansive and I think Disney is looking at that, right? Can the Disney brand beats expanded beyond just family entertainment? Right? And so that, I think that's one that's the positive angle. The more cynical angle is they need money. They need money bad. And so it's like, you know, they can, streaming business is a hard business to be profitable.

Matter of fact, the only streamer right now that is profitable is Netflix. Right? Everyone, all of the rest of 'em are losing money. Disney, hell, they lost almost a billion dollars like the last quarter, this quarter. I think they got it down to 600 million. But they're losing that every, you know, 600 million that, that's real money when in a, in a time of inflation and higher interest rates.

Yeah. You know, that's just tough. I mean, even Disney's announced 700,000 or 7,000 in layoffs recently. And then also the core business, a linear tv. So Disney owns espn, it owns you know, Disney channel, some of the cable channels that used to be a cash cow because they had two revenue sources.

They had ad revenue. So you watch the MTV movie or TV show, they had ads, right. You're watching them, but you're also. Paying a cable bill or carrier fees. So I had two revenue sources. So cable back in the day, and then remember back in the day, it was, it was hard as hell to get rid of your cable. They would be at the call like 20 times before they finally took your cable away.

So Disney, yeah, Disney was making tons of money on cable, but linear tv, you know, due to streaming and other things is going down. So they're losing that revenue is losing about 30% decline, you know, quarter over quarter. So they're losing money on their cash cow revenue business, they're constrained by.

Capital in general because, you know, they're dealing with a lot of debt. They gotta pay off to buy all this stuff. And then also they're trying to do layoffs to get pro more profitable. So this is a tough time. So the only way they can kind of grow, like he said, was if they had to spend 9 billion in order to buy Comcast at stake in Disney Plus, which is a lot, but that's where they are.

They kind of add a a crossroads. And so I think the cynical version of me says yes, they need Cat, they need to figure out a way to go forward in the streaming business, and this is the only way forward. Yeah, 

Mr.Benja: that's, that's definitely true. And you know what's funny was we, we have a, we have a group where we talk about hero movies and things.

And you know, somebody pointed out, and, and we've pointed this out before that, and the rest of the world, Hulu and Disney, that whole bundle, it's already integrated anyway. It's only in certain locations like north America that it's split and it has that hard. Hard delineation between the Star Wars, Marvel, Pixar, Disney kind of brands, and then all of the Hulu stuff is in its own separate app.

So I don't know how, how does that affect the brand when you just start rolling it in together? 

Theo: Yeah, we'll see. I mean, well I think technically it's already done right? So I think that's why he is, is attracted to him because, you know, there's not a lot to do there, you know, they just have to just turn it on here in North America.

So the synergies are already kind of built in. Also, Hulu has a pretty robust ad infrastructure set up, right, where they can They know how to run ads on streaming right. Service. Mm-hmm. So they have a free version. You know, Netflix just ran this out. Matter of fact, have you seen the, the free version of Netflix or the ad supportive version of Netflix?

I haven't tried that. No. Yeah, I haven't tried it either. But so yeah, so this is kind of what streamers are trying to like, make up money trying to, you know, still charge you and, and get some ad revenue. So that's a whole nother thing. So, yeah. So I think you know, it's gonna be interesting to see where Disney goes.

So I got a prediction for you, Mr. Benja, a 

Mr.Benja: prediction. I is it going to. I have no idea what this prediction could be, but I assume it's gonna be groundbreaking. What is it? So 

Theo: I put the hint in the show notes. So I dunno if you saw those. So Hulu at one time was run by a, a gentleman we've spoken about many times on this pod who actually ran Warner Brothers Discover Warner Brothers before.

Oh, no. Kicked to the, so my prediction is that Jason Kylar. Who was previously the CEO of Warner Brothers will be coming back to Disney to help them run this new conglomerate called Disney plus Hulu, because he's got the experience and they need someone who understands that whole infrastructure. So that's my prediction because you know, sounds juicy guy.

That's right. The sounds juicy guy. We, if you happen list our podcast, we just, we just remember a time where he had a, a interesting interview where he talks about streaming and how it's gonna change the world. And someone kind of called them to the carpet and he pretty much said, sounds juicy, juicy.

Mr.Benja: Well, I'm waiting to see how that, how that e-commerce play runs how, how that runs its course. Cause that's gonna be. Part of introduce 

Theo: this to, so, yeah. Well, you know, he, you know, he came from Amazon, right? So he understands that. And he, Hulu was the first one they had ad, you know, 

Mr.Benja: support. Wait, wait, how did I miss that?

Kylar came from Amazon. Yep. He came from 

Theo: Amazon. I didn't know that. I missed that somehow. And then he got transferred over, you know, he jumped on the Hulu Bandag wagon. I see. And then as he helped you know, cause remember it was a conglomerate of all the different, you know, tv, sh you know, like Disney and Comcast, n b, nbc, and I think CBS was part of it at one time, and they just said, Hey, we just, we don't know what this internet TV thing is, but here, let's just create something.

Right. See what happens. And he ran that whole thing. So so that, you know, was, I see, I see. 

Mr.Benja: So you know what you know what, you know what that makes me think? What's that? That is very juicy. All right. What, what, what do you got next?

Theo: All right. Story number two. Elon Musk has a new c e o coming in for n b NBC Universal to run Twitter. Mr. Benja, is this gonna change Twitter for the better? 

Mr.Benja: So, okay, I got, I got thoughts on this whole Twitter thing and I'm just gonna jump in here. Twitter is doing pretty okay in terms of what's happening right now.

This is my opinion. Elon steps in, it was kind of, Twitter was kind of bunk at the moment. People were just like, all right, whatever. Twitter's Twitter. He came in, shook it up, got excitement going on, got engagement up, cut 85% of the workforce, and people were like, is it broken? Oh, it's done. It's finished.

And you know, there was death and gloom and it's like, no, we cut 85% of the workforce and it's still kind of doing what it needs to do for the most part. Cut a lot of non-essential features. Cut a lot of the fat. And it seems like almost in. In response to that. A lot of other companies started cutting a lot of their fat, but just a lot more quietly and in a more friendly way, obviously, cuz Elon doesn't seem like your friend, but just recently he he did a poll a while ago.

Maybe not, how many months ago was that? And maybe last year sometime he did a poll where he is like, Hey, if I need to, if you know you guys are having a problem, this is supposed to be a Democratic kind of thing, you know, where everybody comes together with the town hall and speaks. Maybe we should have a CEO come in.

That's not me. What do you guys think about that idea? And I, I'll take the survey results, the poll results, and I'll abide by them. So if you guys think I should be out, I'll be out. And everybody said get out. And he was like, oh, okay. I'll get to it months later. It seems he's going, 

Theo: yeah, you know Elon man, what a, what a guy.

What a guy. I agree. I mean, you know, from a business standpoint, you know, people said he overpaid for it. You know, he's just, he's running to the ground. But man, he goes to show you that a lot of this stuff is all bloat. I mean, and you can do a lot with a little, and that's why all these tech companies are like letting folks go.

And and also you see what's happening too. The, this is coinciding with the whole AI revolution. So people are, you know, being more productive. They can do more. So you don't need as many people. So it's gonna be interesting to see. I, I think I even heard places where one CEO said, I can run my whole business, which is, you know, VAs and ai.

I was like, oh my goodness. So I think, you know, we're at a point now where, you know, these tech companies are kind of reevaluating how they run things. So to your point, you know, Yes, he lost some advertisers, and so he needed someone to come in and kind of help shore that up, you know, from a revenue standpoint.

And so that's what this new ceo, she has a very good experience with that from running Comcast Universal and ad business. And so she has relationships there and kind of bring ad business back to Twitter. But to your point, I mean, yeah, I mean, I think, I mean, people dogged him, but I mean, you know, that dude, I mean Andy, let's, let's not forget he's running like what, four other companies too.

Yeah. So to me it goes to show you, man, I, you know, and I, I'm, I'm, I'm taking a a kinda like a, a, you know mastermind if you will. Learning about like how people structure businesses. And at one time I never understood how people could run multiple businesses, but now I do. And. And it is, and it is really about understanding your role.

And really Elon, you know, he, sometimes he can be the operator where he's actually running a day-to-day and other times, a lot of times he just has that, number two is that operator and he's just more the visionary. And once you understand that, then as a visionary, you don't have to run the business. You can just think of the bigger thing, right.

And then kind of move on to the next thing. And the operator just is executes. It's kind of like the what's the, in the military, right? You had the COO and the, and the, the, the coo and kind of, and I never understood that for a long time, even though, you know, I'm in business and I kind of, but now I get it, it's like you have to have those two people because you, you can't do both.

It's, it's so difficult to do both. And so Elon did it for a little bit so he knows what's going on, so he knew who to hire and brought the person in. So, so yeah man, great move. Great move on the business side. 

Mr.Benja: No, to totally. And I think, I wonder how much of this was I. I don't wanna say plan, but on his mind, because if he's in there and he, he knows he has to come in and make certain types of move.

He's doing the, the, the self-promotional marketing thing, which he just does naturally. And by God it's been, it's, it's worked over and over again. So people were like, dude, why is he posting this juvenile stuff and da da da. I'm like, yo, you're on Twitter talking about it, and it's, you're, you're making yourself trend.

And he's trending and it's kind of incredible. So now people start complaining about advertising. He sets up the core technology for advertisers to have like the gold check marks and. Once again, industry setting, because now all the other social media networks like, Hey, we should have gold check marks, so it'll be a business and we can charge like hella, you know, hella amount of money for all these extra gold check marks and the benefits behind that.

Holy crap, what were we thinking? He comes in, puts all this in place, and of course he's gotta be looking at the numbers because that's what everybody wants him to do. And then people are mad at him. So he is like, all right, I'm that lightning rod. You can, you can send all your hate my way. Now I have this nice young lady, Linda Yao coming in.

She's from Comcast n nbc, universal Global Head of Business. She knows what she's doing and she apparently brought in all this data and technology capability. From that she put in to NBCUniversal. Now you're applying something like that to a Twitter. Oh my god. It's, mm-hmm. It's just, it just seems.

Brilliant. And I don't know how brilliant it is, but it's just faster than everybody else was 

Theo: thinking. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I agree. I mean, he's definitely thinking about this differently and yeah, it's just basic business one-on-one. Just get your operator in there, understand where your structure is. But you know, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's a good mix of you know, techno technology and marketing and so he knows how to get the attention and also use the attention as cover.

So he, like you said, he can make the hard ca calls. Right. You know, it was, he was the one who fight all those folks, you know, people were talking about Twitter is a mess. People crying, boohoo, you know, it's not the same. But that was just all distraction. He was focused on intention, which was making Twitter viable for advertisers and building that infrastructure up.

Now he's done that. Now you're right. He can kind of move out the way and get someone who can kind of, you know, start building up the revenue again. So, and then also, you know, the blue check marks. You know, he's, he's, I think you know, met David, he kind of did some controversy where he did some calculations back in the napping calculations on like how much it he would get for the blue check marks, right?

People signed up for that $8 an hour $8 month or whatever service. So, you know, there's revenue there. So I think Twitter's gonna be okay to, he cut his costs, you know, he did what he had to do. And yeah, man, I mean, you know, this could, this could work out for him. I mean his, you know, 44 billion he spent in leveraged, you know, to the hilt.

I mean, I think what makes him unique and unlike other folks who do some stuff like this, is that he's a operator too. So he knows like what he has to do to, to make a business viable, whereas you got some of these financial guys come in. Like for instance, I, I saw this article today, vice, did you know Vice Media Is, is filing for bankruptcy?

Yes. They, they got so much money and they were never profitable. I mean, I'm talking about like what billion, you know, mil, all type millions, almost of billions of dollars of, of capital. And they were never profitable. Cause the guy who was running it was never an operator. He never knew how to make, you know, cut things, make those hard choices and that's why they're going bankrupt.

So Elon knows how to run a business when, you know, to make it profitable. And so he did the smart thing. 

Mr.Benja: Yeah, definitely. And I guess we can kind of roll this into the next story, but I think there's a lot of, and this is in terms of the brilliant creative thought, people aren't seeing. People are seeing a lot of his decisions very close up, but he's still got his ideas for the Everything app.

Mm-hmm. And I think that's where a lot of, you know, Yao's experience will come into play and a lot of his moves are gonna come into play. And we start seeing more push towards an everything app that contains business subscription payments. Get people used to paying and moving money on Twitter because they simply weren't before.

But now it's kind of like a thing, at least with a lot of the blue check people. So we'll see what 

Theo: happens with it. Yeah, yeah, man. Doing this thing, man, doing this thing. So let's keep it moving into story number three. Mr. Benja, you heard of Tucker Carlson getting a hundred million offer. 

Mr.Benja: May I screw Tucker Carlson?

Oh, sorry. Let me maintain my journalistic integrity journalistic objectivity. Yes. Tucker Carlson's a right wing. News pundit that was recently removed from Fox News in the wake of the lying scandal 

Theo: or something like that. Yeah, the Dominion voting system scandal. That Fox basically dominion sued Fox for like billions of dollars for getting it wrong, that their systems were crappy.

And so they, they, you know, they settled of course, so they can kind of move on. But then I think Tucker Carson, they got revealed all the crap he was saying behind Trump's back, you know, all this other stuff. No one really liked him and, and he did some more controversial things, so he had to go from even Fox, right, of all the places.

And so now he's looking for a home and here comes your boy. Patrick, my boy David, your boy

Patrick Bet David, your next five moves, man. Yeah. So yeah, this, you know, we talked about him before. Just one of these, you know, big time, you know, business influencers. He's out here making a name for himself. Came out in insurance market. I think he sold that company, to be honest with you. I think he's going on some other things.

Not unlike TD Jakes, right? He don't even preach anymore. TD Jake's got another book out, I think, you know, so there you go. Yeah. It doesn't matter, man. Well, you can't, you, you could be in the ministry, you could be insurance, you could be selling real estate. Don't ma dude, don't matter. These, it don't matter.

These guys, I mean, you saw grant Cardone I don't know if you solved the weekend. He's talking about 10 X Health. I don't know if you saw that. He's got another thing coming out, so. Anyway, I, I digress. But these guys are coming outta woodwork with new things and so Patrick bet David is out here talking about how can I get Tucker Carson on the team and Tucker Carson, if you down, I got a hundred million dollars for you.

Right. And so I don't know Mr. Benja, I mean, you know, I'm two minds. Sure. I mean, it's one of those things. It gets attention, gets, gets the views but I just don't know about. Getting in bed like that. I mean, and it is kinda like Patrick Bay. David did this before with the other country Feld guy. What's that guy's name?

Andrew, what's his name? The, the big guy that got canceled off of Twitter for his Andrew Tate. Oh yeah, yeah. Andrew Tate. Yeah. He did a big old interview with him. That guy's hilarious. I know you hear him talk, man. He just, 

Mr.Benja: he ye yeah. 

Theo: He's too much. 

Mr.Benja: I, I've heard him talk and some of it's in, in the grifter territory where Yeah.

You know, someone's just saying it for that type of attention. But I mean, you get him on a panel with some of these YouTubers and they're just used to being on YouTube. He's actually out there, you know, he was a kickboxing champion. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So he gets out there with his gruff voice and starts yelling at people.

In fact, he had a, there's a whole vice segment on a guy went to work, went to went through one of an Tate's programs and. It was interesting and eye-opening. But yeah, so back to Patrick, vet David in this whole influencer thing, it seems like he's putting together or trying to put together a stable of just wild influencer types.

And it's terribly fascinating that this is how you're gonna put together your network. And the people he's been talking to, like Roland Martin, he was talking to Kobe Bryant, he was getting in there. I don't know, he's got a weird angle, but it, it totally makes sense for this era. 

Theo: Yeah. I mean, you know, I never thought.

He was doing anything too innovative. There's a couple in influencers out there. Oh wow. They really have something interesting to say and unique and different for the marketplace. And some are just more aggregators. I always thought he was more of an aggregator. He's just kind of bringing things together.

Even my guy, Ryan Pineda similar, right? It's just like he's does all these podcasts, all these other influencers, and he was like, oh, let me find out what this guy's about. Right. Thanks Ryan. But it wasn't, I don't know. Patrick bet, David, I mean, he's just really good about, you know, getting on his little whiteboard Right.

And saying, Hey dude, these, there's a checklist to do this. Right. Or something like that. Yeah. But it wasn't anything insightful per se. But yeah, I mean, you know, you find your angle, man, I guess you just find your angle. 

Mr.Benja: I like when he looks at the person and then looks back at the camera and does one of these moves where he's like, are you saying that you would have your taxes in controlled by these people at any given time?

And then looks at the camera. And then he just, is that what you're saying? It's just like, dude, you're not a hard-hitting journalist. Get, I know you're just some, some guy with interesting thoughts. I mean, 

Theo: you know, I, I get it, man. You know, you gotta find your angle and, you know, how do you get your attention?

You know, it's how you get your attention. So you know, kudos to him, man. You know, I think he's definitely got, you know, an angle. I mean, you know, he's been doing Valuetainment for a while. I mean, you know, you go back some of his videos and so he was, you know, early stages of this, you know, but he was always underground.

I. Recently, I, I didn't really get wind of him till maybe you, you kind of hinted at him and I started watching some of his stuff and I said, okay, he's got some interesting things and all the interviews he does. So I tell you, man, it's, it's kind of interesting how these things kind of evolve over time.

But yeah, we'll see if Tuck, I don't know if Tucker Carson's gonna take that, that, that, you know, I think he's still in the TV mode. But yeah, if nothing else, I mean, Tucker Carson may just start his own thing, but man, what happened to all those guys that, that got kicked off Fox? They didn't do too well, man.

Remember Megan Kelly? You know, she left and then she went to n nbc, but that didn't pan, you know, she got. Immediately kicked off her own show, cuz from racist comments mm-hmm. Or some controversial comments. I wouldn't say we were racist. And then you remember Glenn Black Back, you know, he was, he was kicked off and then he kind of went off into no man's land.

And then who was the last one? The guy man, the terrible guy. The one about the man, you know, who was always talking about Columbine and all that kind of, not Columbine, but Sandy Hook, that guy that, yeah, Alex Jones. Yeah. So it's like, these guys, you know, they get platformed for a little bit.

They, then they go over the line and then they kind of do their own thing and they're still around, you know, I mean, Louis ck I still get his emails every now and then. So people are still making money. You just don't see 'em as much. Well, here's the 

Mr.Benja: thing, you don't have to make that many. I mean, once you're out from underneath all of the corporate nonsense, you're making money much more directly.

Yeah, so if you've got your audience and you can just kind of like turn on the money funnel, as you say, you know, Frank Keran talks about this. He's like, every so often you gotta turn the money funnel on so the pipes don't freeze up. I like that. It's just, it's just his core group of people though. And I think Patrick met Davia, like when he started, when he was doing his insurance thing and he was making all these big insurance moves.

I think the reason I, I'm trying to remember how I got him and Kobe Bryant together. They, they didn't interview together, but I'm trying to remember how I found out about it. I think I was looking into some, some business moves that people were making. I was like, this guy from the business world talks to Kobe Bryant about, and I was like, oh, okay, well let me look at this.

And yeah, it was definitely apparent he was trying to get out of his box. And I think the only way he figured he could do that was by talking to other people. And getting clout through, through influences, connections and things like that. And suddenly it's like, well, you're not in this space, but you've got the name and you know these people, so we'll bring you over anyway.

Theo: Hmm. Good point, good point. I mean, no, like the earn your leisure guys, right? I mean, every time they're doing a best fest, they got someone else popping up, right. Showing up on, on the best fest. Right? And so they're a big thing. So kudos to them. I mean, you know, and about time, you know that there's someone you know in this space, you know, who's black, who's kind of getting other black influencers, you know, to them.

So I'm not, I'm not hating 'em at all. It's just previously, you know, you see the Kevin Harts, you know, or Steve Harvey, you know, or other folks go to see Grant Cardone or other people. But now it's good that they're, they're coming back to a group of guys, you know, and these guys were nobodies, you know, matter of fact, inspiration for this podcast a little bit.

So there you go. So, yeah, I think that's the, that's the path, that's the path forward. So, all right, Mr. Benja, man, let's keep it moving. Story number four, our weekly AI watch Google versus Che e b t. I think Mr. Benja, we are leaving the streaming wars and we are now entering a new campaign called the AI Wars.

You ready to get? 

Mr.Benja: Are, are you saying skirmishes are broken out on the the southeastern front of of the AI landscape? Bang, bang. The large lang, the large language model known as what everybody's saying on the internet. Bang, bang.

Theo: Yeah, man. I mean, you know, we can go in detail, but we may keep this high level for, for now maybe we'll do a whole pod, just some amazing what's going on with. Ai I do some content on there. I know you do some content on there. I mean, it's affected every industry now. But so I think Google, you know, got land-based it, right.

Lampooned runner amuck. Bamboozled. Right. You know, on that last presentation on ai, I mean, it was like, see, like, you know, some nine year old put some presentation together and put it out there. Yeah. So this is how ai, you know, AI spelled wrong. You know, they're so, yeah. So anyway, so now they came back, they were ready.

Right. So they had announcements at the announcements, you know, high level. It's just, you know, it is AI everywhere. Right? I mean, the, the thing always fascinates me about this whole Google behind the scenes, it's like two stories, right? Number one they were behind open ai. And the fact that Open AI is using something, they created the transformer that runs their their model, right?

Yeah. And it's just like blows my mind, you know that Google Deep Mind, they created the research for this, right? And so now, you know, Google is like running behind, but also it's a business story because Google didn't want their core product, which is search. They make so much money on search. They own nineties, what?

95% of the market. Yeah. They didn't wanna disrupt that too much. So it's like, wow, you had an innovation that was above and beyond everyone else, but the business side said, nah, don't worry about that innovation right now. It's just a story of business one on one. So 

Mr.Benja: this is something I've been, I've been thinking about with the, and this is like the innovator dilemma, right?

Where you've got, let's say you're the biggest horse, you know, you, you make the horse and buggies, you've got the biggest horse and buggy business in the entire, in the entire country, and all of a sudden people are talking about cars and you're like, you know what? I'm in a good position to push cars, but I've got this entire horse and buggy business.

How do I stop doing horse and buggy and get into cars? And you're just kind of stuck. We saw this with a lot of the tech companies and even car, car companies, even better example, going from electric cars. You know, the, all the, all the old school car companies, you know, gm, Ford, Toyota, they're sitting around thinking, well, electric cars are kind of cool, but we've got all these gas cars.

What do we do? In the meantime, you see Tesla running past him. Waving in the window like, all right y'all, I'm out, Carol. And it's like, what are you gonna do? So now Google is sitting back saying, what are we gonna do with search? And, oh, you're gonna like this one. I was in a, I was in a a black what do you call it?

There was like this black nerd form. I won't, I won't give the name over here cuz there's some nonsense in that group, but there's this black nerd form and the people started arguing and one person put in the chat. He's like, no, no, no. I know it's true because I have the results right here. He posted the picture of him asking the question to Bing, g p t, to Bing's AI interface.

And then somebody else was like posting back, you know, well I asked it this and here's what the answer I got back and I'm sitting here like, yo, AI has entered the chat. This is incredible. So the wars are here, man. 

Theo: Yeah. Using AI to justify our argument. I don't know how that's gonna go over still. Right?

But it's gonna be interesting. I mean, you can probably have AI wars, you know, chat. I mean, you know, it boggles of mind. A lot of things that we can do. Maybe we'll do a deeper dive on what's possible, what, what's gonna happen, and des disruption that's coming. But I, I am interested to see where Google's playing.

And so obviously they're go, you know, they're, they're really kind of enhancing their search, which we all know. Google search sucks. I mean, cuz you open it up and it's like 20 million ads. So the interesting thing I thought about their announcement is they're gonna have this thing, you know, in their snapshots, they're gonna have, like, if it's a non-commercial i e a keyword they can't monetize, then guess what?

The the Google bot is excuse me. The Google AI is just gonna give you. You know, some, a paragraph about it or something like that, and maybe some point as to where to go. But if it is something that's, they can monetize like a vacation or, you know, travel or something like that then those keywords, they still will have the ads pop up at the top.

But then they'll have the, the gi their, their AI stuff pop up in the middle. So I think it's gonna be interesting to see how Google kind of starts to integrate this. They're saying they're gonna put it in Google photos, or we can edit photos in their real time. They're gonna put it in the Android system so it can do everything.

And then Bard, right, which was the, the, the, the tool that's their AI bared. You know, it's gonna be everywhere so it can, you know, make the, the call for different you know, languages and insight, Google, email, Gmail and all that kind of stuff. So, yeah. Yeah, we'll see. 

Mr.Benja: So I think they've already screwed up search and I think unless they, I, I think Bing's got it.

In terms of search, I actually, Hmm. If you were to ask me who's gonna win, I'm, I'm saying. Like Bing is just doing things that I didn't expect. Bing's already sent out all these extra additions to the search that's happening. It's like, Hey, look, if you search like this, we'll give you this search like this.

We'll give you this. We're already in implementing all these different things into our Microsoft ecosystem, and people are seeing that as the next hot thing. On the other hand, Google has this new Gmail thing. I'm glad you mentioned that, because now they're integrating their AI technology into Gmail and their mail system where it's like, Hey, send a email to such and such that says this.

And it basically goes through your emails, kind of figures out how you've been talking and puts out another email or respond to this guy saying this, Hey, B hey Google. Hey Gmail, can you tell me, has, have I gotten the email from such and such in the past week or, and that's an interesting communication device.

Now, another hesitation I have with Google is, Google's known to screw stuff up. People, people love to kiss Google's booty, but I'm not that guy. 

Theo: That's clearly 

Mr.Benja: why I, wait, wait, hold on. Wait, hold on, hold 

Theo: on, hold on. I gotta call Cap on this one. Wait a minute. So Microsoft doesn't screw things up and B Oh, I didn't say they didn't.

Mr.Benja: Microsoft. Screw it up all over the place, dog. I had a Zune. I know how Microsoft used to screw up. I was like, you kidding me? You built this. But people act like Google doesn't screw up. I'm like, okay, let me go back to orchid. Right? Let me go back to all these other technologies that they started on and were just being kind of dumb with it way ahead of their time.

People don't talk about, people talk about how much Zuckerberg spent on the Metaverse. They never talk about how much they spent on Google Glass and really never did anything proper with it. There was Orchid, there was, oh, they had the, the first notes platform. Google notes where you could just go in there and write notes and everybody else was like, what was their failed, 

Theo: Social media experiment.

What was that called? Google what? Circle. Circle, yep. Yeah. So anyway, yeah, you write tons of stuff now. And that was 

Mr.Benja: after Orchid, so you thought, oh, oh, grant Cardone said Google. Google Plus. That's not going away. 

Theo: Google Plus, that's right. 

Mr.Benja: Yeah. Google plus Google Plus had the feature of circles where you could make these little circles of people.

Theo: Yeah. I mean, they tried things. I mean, you know, I'm not gonna hate on that. I mean, even said in an article, I think they said they had something like like 15 products had over 500 million users and five, you know, had over a billion, you know, which 

Mr.Benja: is, and they'll, and they'll drop those users like a rock.

Theo: Oh man. Look at you, man. And we rely on the algorithm for people to find us too. So for marketing. So don't, don't you be talking bad about the algorithm. 

Mr.Benja: Talk bad about, about Google Bard. More like Google Barf. Get outta 

Theo: here with that. Well, let me ask you a question. So, you know, you put on here the different players, you know, Amazon, apple, Twitter.

One thing I do wanna say, I read some articles recently that open source is starting to get a little dander up. Right? You know, I think these models. Once they kind of release into wild, they can kind of be recreated pretty quickly. And so, yes. And then, you know, that's the thing that's interesting cuz Yes, I think what happened to open ai, they released, you know, the three version and it was almost in like magic when people play with it.

And they already had like four along the way, so they probably just like, Hey, let's push to get four out and then, you know, try to keep momentum going. That's why they got so much money raised. But I don't know if there's, you know, there's that gonna be that much different in the, the models. What do you think on that, Mr.

Benja? 

Mr.Benja: No, I mean you've got, think about photo processing applications. Everybody only talks about one or two Photoshop and maybe Affinity. Mm-hmm. Or maybe, you know, Corll painter or something. If you're trying to do painterly looking things or Corll draw. If you're trying to do serious illustration and you know, you don't wanna use Illustrator for some reason, so you're, you're not gonna get more than five.

Mentioned by anybody, right? Mm-hmm. But there are, there are hundreds of them, and they all have different purposes, and you're gonna start using them for all these different reasons. So yeah, once the, once the technology and the technology itself isn't that hard. Mm-hmm. It's the access to the, the systems and the processing.

That's the, that's the hard part. Yeah. It's gonna be expensive. So if I can outsource the system, the systems, the computing power, the processing, the data storage, if I can outsource that to an aws, to a, you know, Google language model, service to a Apple Cloud service, or, you know, China comes in and they're like, yeah, we're just gonna steal everyone's data.

It's gonna be, you know, the ccp, you know, the big Chinese communist we have all your data. Service, you know, 

Theo: and we'll use it against you. Yes. 

Mr.Benja: You know, with impetus, you know yeah. It's like, it's just like once every, once somebody has the, the processing, the storage and all that business the bandwidth and all that.

Yeah. The actual technology to sort through that data, that tech isn't, that comparatively hard to comprehend, hard to get to, hard to actually make. Mm-hmm. That's, that's where the problems lie right now. And Yeah. Are we gonna get to see a lot of different flavors of this? Sure. And that's what's happening right now as you're, as you're saying, as you're seeing Google's starting to apply it to Gmail, starting to apply it to.

You know, different ways of constructing and or storing data. Amazon has, has been using AI for a while to reconfigure their distribution and their logistics in terms of the way they set up warehouses and things. Mm-hmm. And I think 

Theo: you make a good point. I think it's gonna be relevant to the data that you use, the, the, your language, the, the, you know, l and m's with, right.

I mean Yeah. You know, we're starting to play with it in healthcare and so I think, you know, but we have different data right. Around patients and engagement and stuff like that. And so I think that's, You know, it's gonna be the, the, the differentiator, you know, not so much the algorithm. So so yeah, man, I think this is gonna be some, some, some interesting things as we kind of suss this out.

So maybe Mr. Benji, we will do a whole pod on just ai. I'm sure we can both talk for an hour on it. Oh yeah, no 

Mr.Benja: doubt. Break, break it up in five little mini chapters 

Theo: and go to business. Yeah, yeah, let's do that. You know, and so, and, and then, you know, we'll get some good content outta of that. So if you guys wanna hear us talk about AI for a whole pod, give us a comment.

Shout out on Twitter and all the social media accounts. So anyway, let's move on to story number five. Mr. Benja, guardians of the Galaxy Volume three come out this month. You know, I've seen it. Think you've seen it now you know, let's get into it, man. What are our thoughts, likes, dislikes, and what does this mean for Marvel Boilers on.

Yeah, let's do it. It's spoilers, guys. 

Mr.Benja: That's right. That's right. All right. So thank you for listening to the podcast. If you didn't want to hear the spoilers, too bad. We're about to get into that dirt. All right. S is goy three. You know, I don't know if you know James Gunn is not my favorite. You think? I think he's a, I think he's got very interesting thoughts.

He's a, a, a unique character as a person. Yeah. But it's just his style. You know, it's like, it's like putting mango and chicken together. I never liked, I never that idea. It's not that. It's a bad concept. And if you order, you know, the chicken breast with the mango sauce, I'm not mad at you, but I'm going to push your plate away from mine and just say, stay away from me.

It's not my thing. For some reason, mango and chicken doesn't work for me. Mango and lime. Sure. Mango. Mango. You know. Nah, not happening. So when I saw this, I was like, I wasn't, I didn't like it, I didn't want to go into it with the sour face, but I did anyway and I still liked it. 

Theo: Hmm. Okay. Roundabout way to say that, but yes.

Good stuff. I, I, yeah, I thought it was, I liked it as well. I would just say that I took my daughter to go see it and I, I don't think it's for kids, right? It's definitely the very somber. I mean, she's 11, so it wasn't too bad for her. My son is seven and he wanted to go see us. Like, no, I'm glad I didn't take him.

So it's very somber from M C U movie. I think I mentioned that on the last pod. But Yeah, I thought it was very, you know, definitely emotional, more emotional I thought. I thought it would be. But it definitely was one of the first ones that felt like an ending. A lot of these M C U movies don't feel like an ending.

And so that felt like a good ending. Yeah. And I thought that was kind of cool. So but overall, man, very self-contained as well. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Yeah. And so I think that kind of helped everyone wash their, their pallet from man quantum mania. And so that was a good pallet cleanser for the M C U to kinda get you out of that.

But overall thought it was good, little bit darker, but also a little bit more emotional. I mean, the whole Rocket raccoon, man, that was pretty emotional stuff, man. It reminded me of a comic book I read years ago. It was called We three. It was written by Grant Morrison, I think. And it was very similar, kind of, it wasn't, you know, it wasn't set in space or anything like that, but it was about animals and, you know, testing on animals.

And this is what the theme of the movie was about. And you know, they, they all had like, you know, kinda like the rabbit, you know, which was really scary. He had like a metal. Plate on his mouth. That was like something from your, your nightmares, right? Yes. And he had metal spider arms, and that was basically what we, I think, I'm pretty sure James Gunn took that idea from, from weed three.

I'll send it, I'll send you a link or maybe we'll put it on the ig. But yeah, very similar man. It was a rabbit that was like, you know, metal arms. They had a dog, they had like, you know, metal arms, you know, a cat, you know, had like, you know, a laser eye. So yes, it was very similar and, you know, but it was also about, you know, testing on animals.

And so I thought that was kind of emotional and, you know, they, he just gets the jokes. I mean, the jokes are, you know, funny and how the team interacts. Yeah. He understands their, their, their thee, the, their, the drama and what they bring to the table. And so I thought that was kind of interesting. So yeah, overall I liked it, man.

Anything you didn't like about it? You know, the James Gun gunness of it all? I 

Mr.Benja: mean, what was, you know what, so within the James Gunness of it all, and what I mean by that is the, the illusions to, you know, scatological innuendo. Yeah. The you know, the fluid body fluid humor. Yeah. And it's just a lot of grotesque kind of things that come up.

And some things are played callously and you don't care. Like some, a character got beheaded and everybody just kept on going about their business. And I'm kind of like, wait a minute, why would you do that? It, it is just so, it's, it, it definitely got me. But within all of that, I realized that it wasn't unintentional.

There was a lot of purposeful action going on there and, Trust me. This movie had a lot going on. So many characters, so many locations, so many, Hey, let's do this. Let's go here, let's go. And the thing just kept pulling you along. But even within all that, I started realizing that some of the themes where it's like, you know, this whole thing has been an experiment.

You start seeing themes of, they're experimenting with movie making. Okay. They're experimenting with the audience. They're experimenting with all these different characters. And I just started hearing and seeing all these different layers to it. And I was really impressed because it's hard for me to do that while I'm invested in the movie.

But those feelings and emotions were coming out so strong. I was like, wow, this is, this is really well put together for, especially for what it is. Mm-hmm. And I just gotta give it to him. He hit some thematic things that really, really moved me. Yeah, he's a 

Theo: good storyteller. I think, you know, even, I think the Crassness is just who he is.

I mean, anyone you know who sing Slither or any of his other movies in his days, yes, he's, he's a very crass type of dude. But but someone made a good point. One time I was reading about this writer, he said, you have to put those crassness in there so that the other stuff stands out a little bit better.

Right? You can't just have a story without a little stink in it just to keep people awake, you know? So I thought that was kind of interesting. But yeah, that's just his mo But cuz even the scene, I mean, you know, suicide Squad, you know, when the, the rat scene was all over the star, that always gets me.

I just don't like crawly things on things. It's right. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, dude, why'd you put that in here, man? That's what he. So yeah. So I think I didn't, I thought they wasted Adam Warlock. I mean, you know, I'm not saying he's the greatest character in M C U, but you know, they, they didn't really give a sense of who that Adam Warlock care.

He's supposed to be the perfect, ideal guy, and he's supposed to be like, basically Marvel Jesus. Right. He dies, comes back to life, you know, when they need him. They didn't really give you that concept of what Adam Warlock was about. He was just, they just treated him like a, you know, ol strong ol, right. 

Mr.Benja: So, yeah.

I, I did think about that too, but then I realized they may have been, they kind of subverted themselves with that. He, this is a younger take on him. He wasn't finished. Yeah. And then that still kind of leaves room for you to go back and finish that character. Mm-hmm. And have him morph into something new, which would be an interesting arc.

You know what I mean? Where he Yeah. Was this buffoon and then turns into the God kind of Jesus person. But I need to go like, Really hard now. I just realized the time. 

Theo: Well, hey man, Mr. Benja man, I think this has been a great time. So anything else man, you wanna catch up on? I think we, we count. So anyway, go check out Gardens of the Galaxy guys, we're going to end the pod now, but was there anything else you wanted to shout out to the, to the group before we head out?

Mr.Benja: Nah man. Check for the clips cause we're gonna start making them more and more often. 

Theo: Yeah, definitely man. Definitely. So, alright guys, we're going to end it quick here. So thank you for listening to Show Versus Business, your weekly take on pop culture. Please listen, subscribe on Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube wherever you listen to podcasts.

Definitely go check us out on our website at show versus business. All right, Mr. Benja. Take care. Peace.