SvB E199 2025, The Year AI Dominates the Market!

Discover how AI is reshaping 2025 across all industries. 

We delve into its influence on healthcare innovations, military tech advancements, AI-generated movies, virtual influencers, social media dynamics, and digital rights protection. Explore ethical challenges, creative possibilities, and futuristic scenarios shaping our world.

00:00 Introduction and Catching Up
02:11 Reflecting on the Future
03:13 AI and Technological Shifts
11:45 Time Blocking and Productivity Hacks
14:50 AI Licensing and Digital Rights
20:28 Hollywood Gossip and Movie Promotions
25:02 DC Studios Updates
28:52 Music Spotlight: Doechii and Charlie XCX
33:27 Charlie's Comeback and Community Leverage
34:53 AI's Impact on Healthcare
42:04 AI Revolutionizing the Movie Industry
50:43 AI and the Future of Social Media Influencers
58:07 AI in Military and Drone Technology
01:04:57 AI Transforming Banking and Finance
01:07:27 Concluding Thoughts on AI's Future

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Real Theo Harvey: What's up everyone. This is show versus business where pop culture meets pop money with your host, the real Theo, Harvey and Mr. Benja. So Mr. Benja, what's been going on? 

Mr.Benja: What's been going on is I am unprepared, but moving forward. And that is how I am viewing a lot of life now. So much stuff is happening and I'm unprepared, but I'm moving forward.

If you just noticed, I was looking over here and over there, my windows were all messed up. Nevertheless, it's go time. We're doing it live, baby. We're doing it live. 

Real Theo Harvey: We are doing it live man, live in effect, brother, man. Woo, man. The week is here, man. Do we want to just get into it, man? How was your week?

Let's let me, you asked me, I'm going to ask you now for a change. 

Mr.Benja: Oh yeah, dude, 2000, new year's is important to me. And I jumped into 2025 boom, it's go time. Let's do this. And let's do that. And instantly it's like stuff strives to hold you back and say, so I'm like, you know what? I got this, man.

I'm when I meditate, it's growl. That's right. That's right. I meditated. I, ate some good food, not like crazy comfort food, just like some simple stuff, some kale, rice, beans, with a little chicken, boom, relaxed, wrote out some thoughts sent out some messages and was just like, Hey, yeah.

Let's go, man. We're doing this no matter what. I am in these waters, in my kayak doing my thing, the rapids might be rough, but we're just, hey, we're just doing it, man. We got a process. We're good. And when I did that, man, the whole meditation, eat, calm down, write stuff out, just work through it calmly, effectively, a headache that I had went away.

And I was just like, Wait a minute. I didn't take that Tylenol. Did I just meditate and productivize myself out of a headache? I think so. I don't even know if that's a word. In fact, I know it's not. We're going to productivize 2025. It was great, though. So that's how my week was. Just getting into the flow, man.

Real Theo Harvey: Yeah, man. Same here, man. Can you believe we're in the year 2025, man? The year of our Lord. We're in the future. I can always remember I was talking to my, my, my siblings, my, my sisters just like when we were younger oh yeah, in the year 2000 would be this old year 2020, we'd be this old.

And then we get to 2025. He said, oh, I'll be almost 50. Oh, it was inconceivable. And here we are, man, in the year 2025. And so when asked me today, I went to a meeting with some brothers and we all caught up and I said, yeah, we're in the future. And he said, I said, how do you feel about it?

I said, not impressed.

I thought we'd be having flying cars, be sitting on, have a moon base by now. It just, when you thought about the future, you just thought space for some reason, all that stuff. And I said, instead of that, we got to talk, so it is somewhat. Underwhelming, where's, our advancement went, and so I just went outward more than it looked like it went more inward. Yeah. 

Mr.Benja: No, it's interesting. And we're going to be talking about AI a little bit later. What was I heard this interview and I'm trying to remember where it came from. If I remember it, I'll put it in the show notes, but I probably won't.

So too bad, but this technology researcher, pundit, whatever you want to call him, this technology guy was talking and he said, yeah, at some point what ended up happening was we decided to start focusing all of our mental powers and all of our, development powers. Into the internet and apps and, these quick little hits instead of, we used to say, Hey let's go to the moon.

And it's boom, whole industries came up, we'll flight jet propulsion, space travel that changed communication with the whole satellite thing, so you had these big Changes and the same thing has happened in biology where it's like people thought Hey, what happens if, we do this and healthcare system can do that and we can transplant, Lungs and livers and whatever else.

And you had these strides in these different areas. And the guy was like Hey, let's take it back and not look at it. So altruistically, in terms of helping humanity, but maybe these people just found a way to make a quick buck and it's much easier with computers to make a quick buck.

So everything turned that way. And I say quick buck, but just, to make a prop to profit off of what you're doing. And that got me thinking like, huh. What if it was just that simple where it's like, Hey, if you can make a whole lot of money with apps. Do that instead. And we end up with the future we have.

Or not. I don't know the 

Real Theo Harvey: point. No, you, I think, you need to extend that analogy in that that philosophy, because I absolutely believe is because of the venture capital culture, right? Think about it, right? Venture capital is created to to get massive amount of return on capital as fast as possible.

And, once that was developed out of Silicon Valley with the development of microchip, and they saw how much money could be made. In these machines that calculated things faster and faster for us. All the brain power just went to that. And so there was a lot of, and so basically when they made the first VCs made a lot of money they evolved other VCs and other VCs about other VCs and that's all they all knew was just how to invest in computers or things that were ancillary, like the intervention of the internet, mobile apps and other things.

Then I think that's where it evolved because you remember back then when you make those big. Leaps forward. They were all government funded programs, right? And government programs by nature are playing that infinite game, right? Where they're basically in it to do better humanity. There is no return on investment that they're looking for.

So I saw this article Dr. Mike did a whole deep dive. I don't know how I got into this, but understanding the polio vaccine, how was a massive effort. And they had two doctors figure out how best to when out against the polo vaccine and the one guy who figured it out I forgot his name, but I'll look it up later.

I'll put in show notes. If I remember, he was the one that get like hundreds of millions of dollars instantly right from the government to just go out there and make polio vaccine accessible. And it was successful to your point. We got the super highway, right? The interstate highway that was created.

And then the internet was created by get Al Gore, right? So we all know that if you don't know I'll go. It was the vice president. Yeah, he invented the internet. So anyway yeah, Mr. Benji, I think you're right. I think it was the chief capital. And all these VCs just, that's all they knew because it was a way to predict how much revenue can get out of it.

And they just kept investing in the same kind of things over and over again. It was computers initially, then it was like software, enterprise software, and then it was, the internet and then it was mobile apps and social media. And so it's just, it's all of a piece, but it's never, no, they're talking about trying to invest in like climate change now and stuff, and it's like really hard because yeah, that's gonna take a long time.

Mr.Benja: And at the very least, you're not drab in some of these areas, like climate change, it's not. It's not like you're drafting off of the internet technology. If you're talking about streaming and Netflix and media and the changes that are happening in all these other industries, they're drafting and following in the path and the wake of the internet of, the microchip revolution.

So all these things are following behind it. And then someone like, Hey, why don't we put money into climate change? It's you're over there, dog. You need to get in the draft somehow. 

Real Theo Harvey: And I'll leave it on a positive note. I was listening to this podcast that talked about the first quantum computer.

They finally got one working well, where it was able to calculate a map equation in five minutes that would take a supercomputer. Basically, the entire the tire age of the universe. So I think that's 10 to the thousandth power or something like that, so it was like and they said this quantum computer, because, Quantum physics is weird.

And they have things called superposition where two objects can be in one place at the same time. You don't know their state until you observe it. And so they have these interesting things where they said the quantum computer. 

Mr.Benja: Yeah. Could you when you call tech support, it's could you turn your computer off and turn it back on again?

It's I think it's on and off at the same time. 

Real Theo Harvey: You must have got a couple of those in your day, huh? I'm not sure what to 

Mr.Benja: do. 

Real Theo Harvey: Quantum physics is amazing stuff. I always like to reread it every now and then just to, understand entanglement. That the ability, how we impact each other.

Objects, even millions of miles and light years away and superposition or two weird concepts. But anyway, this whole idea of this quantum computer, dig into the nuts and bolts of it. It was able to they said in theory, it was able to calculate this equation because, it was be able to use the multiverse right to calculate different things at the same time.

So it was weird. So it was this whole kind of world that we're starting to live in that gets me excited about, okay, maybe we are in the future. And that's At first I was like, maybe we're not, but when you hear stories like that, you get excited a little bit. It's okay. We got quantum computers, right?

That are calculating things in the multiverse, right? To come up with answers. But yeah, that's the only way it could do it that fast. So that's the thing that kind of gets me excited. Yeah, man, we're in 2025, yeah. I'm just excited about the future as always. I'm like you, I get really internal reflective.

One thing I do want to say, I don't know if you look at through your notes sometimes Mr Benja from the previous year and do reflection. If you're dr Benjamin Hardy fan like I am, I'm always looking in the past to get excited about the future. But sometimes I look back, I'm like, what the hell was I thinking?

You're just like, Theo 2024 wake up. 

Mr.Benja: Yeah, no, it's it's wild. I actually have my stack of journals right over there. 

Real Theo Harvey: Oh, same here brother, right down there. 

Mr.Benja: And what's, it is fascinating, but I don't worry so much about the dumb stuff because as a creative, we're trained to just spew out a bunch of dumb stuff.

All the time. If anybody wonders how, how could they think that was a good album? It's just, you're just supposed to spew out dumb stuff and see what happens. But I'm flipping through all this stuff and in the midst of it, like in all caps, I wrote this one phrase and it stuck out to me and I was like, I remember that emotion.

That was a good idea. It's still a good idea. Why did I leave it there? And so there's a lot of good you come back to and it's just Oh, I love it. Absolutely. 

Real Theo Harvey: Or some stuff you forgot. It's dang, why did I drop that? That was, I need to redevelop that idea. That guy was smart. Yeah. It's just, it's weird, man.

Just, it's you're talking to another version of yourself, which you are, right? You are. It's totally. And so it's you're talking from the future to that past person. And so I think that's what Dr. Benjamin Hardy is talking about. Just, you have to picture yourself as a future state now so that you're, when you're looking back, you can say, oh, I'm glad.

That past person thought this way. So that's what I'm trying to figure out. And so yeah, man, just it's opened my eyes to what I really want this year and two things coming up consistency and preventing the overwhelm. So basically those are the two things I'm focused on for this year.

Mr.Benja: I will add one more thing before we get onto the news here and our AI discussion, the thing that's really the big move for me is time blocking and I don't mean time blocking I used to think I was time blocking, but getting hardcore with it where I have a journal and an app, And the app is called forest.

You can look it up. It's basically every time you block out your time, it plants a little tree and you see the tree grow, you pick up your phone. It's Hey, stop messing around. The tree is growing, leave it alone. You're like, all right, cool. And then, so I have that, it cuts off my phone and gives me a timer at the same time.

So I'm like time blocking for one hour or whatever. Then I go over to my journal and I'm like, I started this time block on this date. Here's what I'm going to do. During that time. I can only do the thing that I've committed to. I only do that. Like I don't have to do it, but if I do anything, it's going to be that.

I don't know if you see the difference. So if I said, I'm going to write for an hour and I write for 10 minutes and then I'm stuck, I just have to sit there. I can't do anything else. But then if it like the 45 minute mark, I'm like, I could write this too. I keep writing. So removes the pressure a little bit of continually trying to write, and then I get mad that I wrote something and I wasn't in the mood, but I got this from Seinfeld actually.

He's just no, just. Say that you aren't going to do anything else but that thing. So the rest of the time I can meditate. I can stare at the wall. I can hold onto the pen and paper, but I can't do anything else. I can't draw. I can't go get a snack. I can't whatever, just that thing. So between the app, the journal, and this intense focus now, I've been banging out some stuff.

It's been great. 

Real Theo Harvey: Been getting out some stuff. I love it, man. Yeah, I heard Alex Alex Moley talked about that too, but he mentioned it was Seinfeld that told that talked about this, blocking yourself in a room and don't come out until you gotta get that thing done. And yeah, I might implement some of that.

Focused on that. 

Mr.Benja: It relieves a lot of pressure because when you're not doing it, when you're not in the time block, that's when you can just screw around and whatever, but you can reduce your time block down to five minutes, 10 minutes, just to practice. And it's Hey, I'm for 15 minutes.

Cause that was his thing where he would look at himself in the mirror and go, you can do five minutes and just look at himself with disgust. Come on, dog, you can do five minutes if just nothing else just do five minutes. And then he would just lock himself up and be like, all right, five minutes.

I can only write. I don't have to write. But if I do anything, it's only going to be writing. So yeah, that's my new thing. And it's working great. 

Real Theo Harvey: Love it, man. Love it. What's up, man. I know we talked throughout the week. So everyone, you just look, we just talk about stuff that happened in the world. So you're just privileged enough to listen to us talk a little bit about what's going on.

But yes. What do we want to start with first? 

Mr.Benja: Oh, we talked about the quantum chip. Let's really quickly go to AI licensing. What was this one about? You sent it to me. 

Real Theo Harvey: AI licensing. Oh I just, it was an interesting concept. AI rights licensing platform for creators. So basically more and more it's called created by humans.

So this, I think this term created by humans is going to get more and more important. In the future. So that term number one just lit something under me, right? But then this whole focus on like making sure like creatives have control of their digital rights, especially with A. I out there scooping up everything.

I think that's gonna become more and more important, right? And so I think that's the only reason I share it just want to get your thoughts on as a creative, right? What does this mean? Is this something that's important? And I pitched the idea to my My lawyer brother in law and we may do it, man.

I was just like, man, we gotta, I'll put on this pie. I don't care, but we gotta do it. It's one of those where you gotta you gotta create something that I think more and more people gonna realize digital rights are going to be so important for the future. And so what does that mean?

Yes, right now celebrities want it, need it for their protection, the IP rights and all that. But, Joe Schmoes, man, I think they may be, that might be of interest to them because you don't know what AI I was telling my my, my lawyer, brother in law, there could be some future business opportunity where they take our image, Mr.

Benja, and then they make billions of dollars off of it in a year, 20, And we'll, we would never know, or our descendants would never know. And that's that whole Henrietta lacks, remember the immortal genes where they, a lot of corporations used her and the government used her genes to create all these different vaccinations and drugs and stuff like that.

And I heard her heirs just now recently got. Some money for it. And so those are the things that, I think is going to be more important. People don't realize wait a minute, I think I may want my digital rights and perpetuity, 

Mr.Benja: yeah, no, it's interesting. There are so many stories of, songs, scripts video game concepts like when I say video game concept, I don't just mean guy went and saved the princess or whatever, but like Tetris was one of those genre shifting concepts.

And that's something that could have easily been stolen, right? If it didn't get put out the way it did the Rubik's cube, that's something that could have easily been stolen. And it's like, how do you prevent this? And a lot of people think. Hey, these guys made this product or whatever. It's great.

And it's original, the secret recipe came from their neighbor who they didn't like and weren't going anywhere in life. So they're like, man, they ain't gonna do nothing with this recipe. I'm just going to steal it and see if I can see if they're going to do anything about it. And, it's like decades later, some old lady on the stand, they took my fried fish recipe.

It's so yes, I totally like this idea. I wonder about this in conjunction with the blockchain in conjunction with what's out there already for digital licensing, I don't know how it all plays out in terms of how these law firms and how these businesses and how these tech individuals are going to fight it out, but something is.

Is brewing and I don't know how it happens. Exactly. I don't have a clear vision of how it could happen. 

Real Theo Harvey: Yeah, maybe we'll bring on a legal expert in again and just talk a little bit about that because I'd be curious. I think we talked about Robert Downey Jr. He was going to have his rights, protected in perpetuity.

And then I just saw Mufasa. Not too long ago, James Earl Jones, we talked about him providing his voice for Darth Vader, I'm sure for Disney for future and in perpetuity. So those are the things that have become more and more important, especially individual folks. I think we may find ourselves.

Yeah, somebody makes a billion dollars off my voice and likeness, and I've become a global superstar in year 3, 012. I'm sure I want my heirs to take advantage of that. I'll be long gone, but I want to make sure, My family's taken care 

Mr.Benja: of. Yeah. Okay. So let's jump into the future a little bit.

There's an app called Scrivener, right? It's a writing app that people used to write. One cool feature that it has is called the research feature. And it allows you to bring in links and dragging pictures and things. And what'd be interesting is if everything that we link to reference, pull from, And gather to build our product, if that gets tagged, logged, sequenced, prioritized, and, basically tokenized into a system, then it's by the time my movie comes out or my game comes out, it could be like, Hey, this guy took a little bit from this.

He took his inspiration from that. It's just thoughts for an interesting future where nobody wants to hear your idea unless they have some type of reference from it. I don't know. Interesting stuff though. 

Real Theo Harvey: Let me just double click on that. So basically you're saying like, it's like a tokenization of an idea so that we can track it back using the blockchain or something like that, right?

Is that what you're thinking? 

Mr.Benja: I don't know, but yes. 

Real Theo Harvey: I don't know, man. Yes. Blockchain is what going through the moon, right? Bitcoin yeah. Bitcoin is going to the moon, but yeah, I just don't know. The AI companies are socket capturing so much data so fast. I just, I don't think Blockchain can catch up at this point.

There's so much money going to AI. I don't think people care. They don't care about IP rights anymore. They have so much money just on AI that they could care less. So I just don't think, I think blockchains chance to do something has passed. Bitcoin will still be there. Yeah. Because anyway, that's.

Maybe we digress and talk about that. 

Mr.Benja: We'll do some research on that. Find out who's playing this game and who's doing what that's a good, but but speaking of not knowing what anyone is talking about in a certain arena I just had to point, I just sent you this link about Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo, stars of the new Wicked movie that recently came out.

And it's only interesting. The movie is fine. It's great and everything. I haven't even seen the movie, but I can't talk about the movie unless I've seen it. What is this? 

Real Theo Harvey: No not in the internet world. No. 

Mr.Benja: I got an opinion. I ain't never seen it, but I got an opinion. No, I don't have an opinion on the movie, but just the surrounding it.

So they had this interview and gosh, I'm sorry. I can't remember where the interview came from, but it's, been going around like a meme where the cast is talking, they're asked questions. Cynthia and Ariana are asked questions and they don't know what the question means, but they fumble their way through it and it starts to get like very LA Hollywood speak Oh, I'm concerned.

Did you feel that? I wasn't wondering what you were feeling. It's yes, we're in our space together, and they just kept talking and it's huh. Interesting conversation. I'm not sure what the subtext or where it was going was, and everybody just sent out clips of that. Later on they had interviews and Ariana Grande was like, oh, I didn't know what was going on.

I thought she was talking about this. And then Cynthia's Oh, you thought they were talking about that? Cause I thought she meant this and it got even weirder. And it's just like this weird bouncing around and people not really understanding each other. And I think that's such a 2025 thing where it's we're all smiling, happy online, posting content and it's getting shared and nobody knows what anybody means.

Real Theo Harvey: Yeah. We're all in a thousand different conversations. And you and I will be talking. Sometimes we're talking about different things, right? In a conversation because we're all coming from different influences, different voices. And it's, yeah, it's weird, man. You're right. The wicked promotional tour, man, when they were Promoting this movie.

I saw it with the family. I like that. That was good. Good music. Obviously Ariana Grande has been celebrity since she was a teenager, right? So she's probably known how to manipulate things and do different things. But it's just interesting how they use that moment to even.

Bump themselves up and accelerate the movie. So I would say, a lot of that stuff I take with a grain of salt. Because the reason why I'm telling you this, because there's another movie that came out, it was called it ends with us. I don't know if you know about this, but the two stars of that movie Blake Lively.

Mr.Benja: I thought you were saying you didn't know the name of the movie, but it ends with us. And I was like, yes, case in point. I was like, what movie ends with us? Let's see. 

Real Theo Harvey: Ends with us at the end. Yeah. The movie's over now. It ends with us is it was actually a decent movie. My wife, so I haven't seen it, but it's like one of those abusive, bad boyfriend kind of movies, Blake Lively, who's the wife of Ryan Reynolds.

She accused her co star who actually happened to be the director of the movie. I think his last name is Bardini of this. This bombshell, sexual harassment case, he came back and said, that's not the case. And the reason why you got this information was illegal. So this whole back and forth about who's manipulating who, and is the, she said game at the highest level where no one knows who's telling the truth or not, because there's so much.

There's PR firms involved, saying, Oh, by Danny put the planet, these stories in the media to make her look bad. And vice versa. So it's just, when you say things like these high end Hollywood types, they have. Armies of people, not just legal people, not just a makeup artist, but like press PR folks crisis managers that can manipulate any type of message they see on social media now.

And they have whole firms that their whole goal is to manipulate us into thinking that something is bigger than it is. So I think Yeah, we'll see more of this in 2025. I know we're making some predictions here, but that whole memeification of these movies and trying to make it more of events or issues because I saw another group of folks they that would promote another movie.

They they recreated that mean, I think they were holding each other's finger or something like that. To yeah, they call it a holding space or something. I think that's exactly. 

Mr.Benja: Yeah. 

Real Theo Harvey: So anyway yeah, I'm familiar with it, man, but yeah it's crazy.

Man, what else we got here? So if you don't mind, we move on. So DC studios, man, did we want to check in on DC studios real quick? 

Mr.Benja: It's always fun to check in on DC studios.

Real Theo Harvey: What's so funny, man. Superman trailer came out, everybody wouldn't gaga over it. And then it was funny Grace behind the trailer, she did not release one. I was like, Oh, I know she has some hate for James gun. I say, but. What happened? So she finally popped up says she was sick.

She was traveling. So she didn't get a chance to do it. So she finally did her behind the behind the trailer Superman breakdown was hilarious to me because you can always tell the people who may not be liking James gun as much. And I think Mr. Benji, you might be in that camp. 

Mr.Benja: No, I don't want to put myself in that camp, but he does do some weird stuff.

And I'm like, cool. That's James gun. I guess so. 

Real Theo Harvey: Speaking of weird stuff, what do you think about Jason Momoa coming 

Mr.Benja: back, 

Real Theo Harvey: but as 

Mr.Benja: Lobo? This was a casting that people had been clamoring for a while. Dude, he'd be great Lobo. And it was just laughed about. It's time. I, I don't know what they're going to do with the Aquaman.

But whatever, this is a good thing. Lobo. And James Momoa belong together. 

Real Theo Harvey: I agree. 

He can look, he acts like him a little bit. If you know anything about logo and the comic books he was like a big thing for a while. I remember back in the day, I think it was in the late nineties.

I can't remember. He was just showing up in everybody's comic book. And just, just doing what he does. Just like a more extreme Wolverine. I think that's what he, that's what I would 

Mr.Benja: call it. He was an outer space. Motorcycle, bike, motorbike leader. With no gang.

Yeah, he's just riding around on his motorbike in space by himself. 

Real Theo Harvey: The 90s, man. We got the Venom. We got, we got Lobo. It was a great time. Yeah, man. So yeah, great. And I can see James Gunn eating that up. That's, that character's right. If you, I guess you probably haven't watched any of the Creature Commandos at all on HBO Max.

So I've been watching it. So yeah, he, it's just that whole, you get his vibe. He's going for those weird characters and he's trying to make them a little bit human, but they're just so weird with things that they do and behavior traits. That's just his MO, right? And he's trying to connect it to interesting music to grounded in something, even though these characters are out there.

Let's be honest. Okay. 

Mr.Benja: Now you're talking because we can make this into a real right quick. We are looking at. The top weirdest DC characters out there. And you can make tons of content from this and James gun. This is where you will shine Danny, the street. Yes, a character is actually a street, Lobo Flexmentalo, Deadman, Bouncing Boy Arm Fall Off Boy, it's Adam Strange, and he's even not that strange in this list, Ambush Bug, it's, I don't know if you have any more.

Do you have any more? I'm just, random obscure characters. My man, any 

Real Theo Harvey: of those characters on what's that show you used to watch, Mr. Benja The Flash? Yeah, what? No, not the flash. It was the one, the weird show, with the metallic man, Doom patrol, any character, they can make his list.

Yeah, man, yeah, make, yeah, that's a good reel, but yeah. So we'll see DC studios, everybody's excited about Superman, the Green Lantern shows popping up what are the other things? Oh, you saw that Batman the Matt Reeves got pushed back to 2027. So that's going to be interesting.

So I want to think of, yeah you really liked the first one. No, I 

Mr.Benja: just I just figured I'd say sad face cause that was 

Real Theo Harvey: So we have more time for the penguin, penguin sequel. True. TV show. Basically, also known as Sopranos Gotham, so anyway we'll see more of that. So yeah, anyway, so we'll check in later with them, man.

What else we got here, man? 

Mr.Benja: You know what? I was listening to a song to jump into music for a little bit. I was listening to a song by Tyler, the creator of his new album Chromocopia, and all of a sudden this female rapper comes in and just starts banging away and I'm like, Oh, that's right.

Who is this new, fresh voice? Sounds slightly familiar, but I'm, I can't place it. It was your girl. Do it. She, I don't even know if I'm pronouncing it right. 

Real Theo Harvey: Don't 

Mr.Benja: she. 

Real Theo Harvey: Tampa. Oh, man. Put some respect on her name, man. She's from Tampa, 

Mr.Benja: Florida. 

Real Theo Harvey: I run 

Mr.Benja: across a lot of Dochis, Doechis. Her and Amandla Stonberg can have name arguments together.

God messed it up. Yeah. 

Real Theo Harvey: So what'd you think of her, man? 

Mr.Benja: Oh, no, she's fire. I knew she was, but I just, when you hear somebody at one time, you're like, Oh, that's pretty cool. But then you start understanding their context a little more. And when they show up in a song, you're like, there it is. I'm starting to get it.

That's what happened at this time. 

Real Theo Harvey: Yeah, man. She she just released her new song I did now as a river and it was. I don't know if you saw the video, it's basically hilarious where she's doing the whole family matters motif, and, but she's doing that fast rapping and she's just going through her story.

Talent, man, the girl, she is, I put in our notes here, I said, she's a female rapper, right? But this ain't sexy red, this ain't even gorilla, right? This is a true artiste, right? Cause it's just like everything she does has intentionality around it, right? When she performs her music. I don't know if you saw the Lil Desk performance that she did or Stephen Colbert on YouTube.

Very intentional how she performs it, how she, how she raps, she just, it's a different spin on the female rapper that we haven't seen since maybe Erykah Badu. Who was a singer really, just this extra what's it called? Theatrical kind of a flavor to it that she brings to the female rapping game.

And so yeah, so I kinda, yeah, I'm digging it, man. Yeah. She's bringing an extra kind of theatrics to it. And I think that's making it interesting. So we'll see, man, it's, we know this music game is tough, man. So I wanted to talk about the music session because I did also another deep dive on another artist, Mr Benja charlie XCX.

So are you brat, Mr Benja? 

Mr.Benja: I haven't actually heard anything from this, but charlie XCX is a name that just, Showed up and you were like, huh? Okay. And it never went away. It always, she always seemed like she would go away, but she never went away. And now apparently everybody's, clapping and, applauding her latest campaign.

And it's funny. I don't know anybody who's Oh yes, these are my songs. This is my jam. It's just Charlie XCX. Again, what happened? 

Real Theo Harvey: What? Like I said, I didn't know this girl from Adam, man. Until the brat thing popped up and that was like, it was brat summer, this whole, Kamala took it on and that awful green, lime green color.

So it was a marketing campaign and that's how I looked at it. I was like, wow, this is genius. It got everyone talking. And And most people probably even knows, people to probably know who she was, right? The ones that are not in the know, or in the music, no, are younger. But so I did a deep dive and understood the backgrounds.

I didn't know this is the same girl from fancy back in the day with Izzy. Yeah. Yeah. I aza and that was a singer on that. I was like, what? , geez, artists, man. They go back, don't they? They don't die. They multiply. . So she's been around, man. Anyway, so she did that back in the day.

But then I did a deep dive on this YouTube channel, and they just said, man, she started when she was like 14, her parents, she had released an album called 14, where she did every out, every, instrument on the album. And from that, she got booked to do these these kind of raids, late at night at 14 singing her heart out.

And so it got me thinking, it's like these artists, man, these independent artists, man, they starting to get better, man. They just, they don't care. They got to get this music out. No matter how old they are. Dochi, she started putting stuff on SoundCloud at 16. You go down the line, all these artists, man, they just, that's like the new way now.

Before it used to be, you got signed on the back end by Jay Z, you got thrown off the roof.

AKA Rihanna, but or, you were Disney star, and then you got, a sign like Ariana Grande, but now these independent artists, they're just like grinding on the ground, making it happen. And then, getting the music coming out. So Charlie XCX is to finish the story out.

She did all that. She disappeared for five years and just really got back to her roots, found some new sounds. And then she released this brat. And she was already on a come up at that point. She finally had her own, group. I forgot what they're called, but, you're not a pop star unless you have a name to your group, the army, Rihanna, or of course the beehive for Beyonce.

So she has her own group. And she, when she had that, she used that community to leverage that to get her. To the stratosphere, right? And that's what you use with the brat campaign. So just, about going back to your roots about understanding who you are as an artist or as a, content creator or as a business owner, and then having that community that can help.

Propel you to the next level. It was just a case book in how take your brand to the next level. Yeah, we may put in show notes, but it was a great article from a business standpoint, this is show versus business. So really understanding how she did it. And she even said in so many words, I need to look at myself like a brand and really think about the marketing campaign before the music.

Mr.Benja: Yeah. Yeah, we should also check in on Russ too, later on. He's a, he's somebody who's on that too. Russ chameleon, air master P man. We can do a whole thing on this. It's crazy because there's the blueprint, man. I love it, man. I love it. So you want to jump to our feature or you got another one? 

Real Theo Harvey: Nah, man.

Let's jump to this feature, man. Let's get it. 

Mr.Benja: All right. So we used to do features a while back and we figured we'd we reintroduced them now that we've got our chapter updates, you could just jump straight to it. But. We found ourselves talking about AI and the changes that they were, it was going to make in the industry and what industries it was going to affect.

So we're picking five top industries where AI could possibly change the world. Everything, the universe, the multiverse, it'll be all up in your quantums. This is going to happen. And I don't even know if you can call it a prediction, but we just think this is the way it's going to go. So five industries that will see massive change because of AI.

And I don't know exactly how you wanted to start this Theo, but if we want, let's just start with our list here. So this isn't in any particular order. We'll start with healthcare because you're involved in healthcare and we both got some thoughts on this. How will AI, how do we see massive change?

In healthcare because of ai? 

Real Theo Harvey: Ooh. Yeah, we're starting with the, probably the one that's probably the most resistance resistant to ai. I think so. Because of, okay. Yeah. During COVID telehealth blew up, right? Cause doctors couldn't see patients anymore. And so they had to use FaceTime and video to communicate that, 5, 000 percent usage, we're down below, we're down below COVID levels, like where we normally were when it comes to telehealth now.

So it goes to show me that any. That was like a blip. It wasn't just overall behavioral change, when it came to telehealth adoption. So that shows me, just healthcare by nature. It's like the law, right? It's built on all these peer reviewed articles, medicine people, justify.

Is this correct? Is that not correct? Trying to create protocols because obviously you don't want to hurt people, right? When you create new protocols. So they're trying to all is very conservative in how they move medicine forward. If that makes sense. Yeah. 

Mr.Benja: Yeah, and there's a lot of covering yourself, CYA activities where I have to cover myself because, hey, if this regulations in place, this policies in place, these reviews are in place, and then I do something and it doesn't go right, I don't want to be held accountable because of all these policies, regulations, and, everything else leading up to it, like Absolutely. 

Real Theo Harvey: Absolutely. So we start here 'cause it's probably the most, the toughest one to change ai, but I'm seeing it now. One of the first things I'm seeing that a lot of doctors I've talked to, they're using an AI to do charting. So basically when they talk to you, they have to document everything digitally into their their database is called el Electronic Medical Records.

. And every time I talk to a doctor, they use an AI to chart that for them automatically. So there's usually they had an assistant in there, a scribe or something. It was like messy because you got two people in there and they're not really talking to you.

They're talking to each other. So now the doctor can come in And the A. I can record everything he's saying and he can just search his notes using the A. I to figure out. Okay, I talked to Mr Benja about this, what are some cases I can look at to help him with his concerns.

So I think that's something that we're seeing. So basically automation and making a job easier, but you're still having the human face to protect them. Next. I see the one they wanted to do is Clinical results, giving them people a clinical evaluation.

I think we're still a long ways to that because we know AI does hallucinations. And so 

Mr.Benja: It's a diagnosis, like a diagnosis. 

Real Theo Harvey: Yeah. Yeah. So they're talking to you and say, you have cancer. You don't want AI to do that, you want that human face to really understand that. And I just don't see it.

automatic. Now there's some stuff, there's tools, people are trying to build them. I don't see AI because I can pull this information together. But there's still that, as we all know, if you don't know, it's like the way, when I talked to our doctor friend, dr jackson or dr chris, he with him, he talks about you make predictions on, who the person is, if they're 50 year old african american male, right?

Who has a history of heart disease, then likely this is the way you treat it. So you can prevent, cost from exploding. So I think I still has a long ways for that. And so I think those are the two areas, I see automation help the doctor and the clinical staff, like nurses do the job better and then clinical review.

Is when you're thinking about understanding or clinical diagnosis, using AI to diagnose people. Those are the two areas I think they're trying to use it for. 

Mr.Benja: Real quick. At first I was wondering myself, how does AI get this wrong? You have, let's say you have thousands of pictures of x rays and the AI can go through it and say yes, this is clearly this type of fracture.

This is clearly this type of tumor or whatever. Because I'm a I and I've viewed a bazillion of these things, but so I thought, yeah, let's go forward with it. But then I saw this one study where people were taking pictures of their skin. And if they had a certain type of Legion on their skin or something, it's Hey, this guy has this.

Cancerous this may be cancerous or something. And I forgot exactly what they were checking for, but in all the pictures of the lesions, they're like, Hey, the AI got it right. Some huge percentage of the time while people looking at it, we're missing and they weren't sure turns out that if the photos were taken in a certain type of lab or with doctors, then the AI would say, Oh, I'm sorry.

That's clearly a problem because it was taken in this lab or the picture was taken, in the lab or with a certain type of fluorescent lighting, as opposed to, going out to someone's home or you're out in the field and you take a picture of this lesion or area of skin or whatever.

And it was just like figuring out, Oh, this lighting versus this lighting. This happened in a hospital. So he's probably sick. It was, and that was one of those things where I could get it totally wrong. 

Real Theo Harvey: Yeah, the connections that they have is is not making, although they're making too many leaps, right?

Based on what they see as opposed to what the reality is. And yeah, I think that's the problem with AI, getting too involved in healthcare. We don't have to get into too many details, but I know you mentioned this digital twin where you can create these A. I. R. avatars where you can emulate, body functions and systems so you can test different drugs.

And I think that could be useful for drug research and finding out new cures to things, initially, but you still gotta go through the clinical review, the clinical drug review process where you're constantly, doing, Getting people's approval and consent to do drug testing, people putting people on placebos so you can test them against each other.

And so you can make sure that it really does have the effect and by how much we still got a little ways of going right when it comes to those. 

Mr.Benja: Yeah, AI will mess around and prescribe everybody sugar pills and give an entire county of people diabetes.

Real Theo Harvey: And come up with a different causation. The causation is because they were based out of Alabama, right? 

Mr.Benja: So 

Real Theo Harvey: yeah, 

Mr.Benja: Alabama people get sugar pills and Mountain Dew. 

Real Theo Harvey: That's because they all, everybody in Alabama has diabetes, right? There's an epidemic. So yeah, it's, yeah it's weird. What's next, man?

What are the engines you want to cover? 

Mr.Benja: The next one's a little serious, so I'm going to jump down to movies right quick. Man, we talked about movies last in our predictions episode, and man, I don't know what. What the industry is going to do, because there's just too much AI and it's too good.

It's too good. It's too good to just, just brush off and not acknowledge. And. Man, I do want the humanity in there, but a certain part of me, just I want to see that black Panther versus Wolverine crossover movie, you just had, how can we get it done?

Hey man, let's get some VFX guys, three of them and just have them run through some AI and get this thing made. And that's one part of it. Of course, as an artist myself, it's yeah, this is a tool. We don't want AI making the art on its own, but then you turn to the side and you're like, But I do want that because I just want this stuff out and I want it created and I want it to look high quality.

So it's a difficult position to movie industries in, because I don't know of an aspect of it that's not affected by AI at 

Real Theo Harvey: all. No, man, I'm looking at, I went to a open ai. com Sora and you look at those images, man, and they're just like amazing, man. They got, you can tell there's a little weirdness here and there.

But for the most part, it's, they got aliens, they have doctors, they have spaceships. It's just amazing. And to your point, I think we're in a weird time where people are just like this is, this is getting better pretty quickly. And that's just from the video standpoint, I can talk more from the art.

In a writer's standpoint, like I said, I, I have a uncle that is working with Tyler Perry and, and when I say working more like the actor side of it, but he already, it's already known that Tyler Perry writes all his own stuff, but Tyler Perry is very. Interested in AI. And sometimes when you look at some of his shows, you wonder, did AI write this right?

Because it's like there's leaps in judgment and logic. You're like, how did this come up? And if you don't know, AI is if you check chat GPT to create a story, like right before a new year's, I had my had a chat GPT create a nice little story about the night before Christmas or excuse me, right before Christmas.

I had to write a story about the night before Christmas using our our technology, right? And it created a very credible story using the same format as it was the night before Christmas and it was quick. And so chat GPT and AI systems, when it comes to like fictional stories, it was really good.

And so to your point, Mr. Benja, if you got the writing. You got the editing tools. That's been there, right? But they're getting better and better. And now you have the video itself. What do we need people for? 

Mr.Benja: I, it gets weird, man. It's really weird and scary in some sense. And I don't know if you've seen all the stuff from Google's video production, vO or veil came out and Google's listen, you got this video thing and they showed some images and scenes and people were like, Whoa, this came from Google. How did you get so good? And then it's YouTube came in the office and they're like, get out YouTube, that's where all your data came from.

We forgot, forgot how you got so good.

That's so true. 

Real Theo Harvey: People forget, man, it's dude, they've been soaking up billions and trillions of data. For over 20 years, man on YouTube. So yes, they have the training sets to make their video way better than open AI, that's for sure. Yeah, it does look good. I'm looking on VO to site and it's amazing, man.

It's just it's just, it's almost leaps and bounds above Sora even I'm looking at so it's got that little weird little aftertaste to it, but 

Mr.Benja: after look this actually makes me wonder in a serious question We could fundamentally change what? Movie viewing is, and it may not even be called movies.

Like we have movies, games. What about, IV interactive video where you just say, Hey, I want to, maybe it's on the fan fiction kind of thing where, Hey, show me a Star Trek episode where this and this happens and dah. And make it chill. I don't want too much action and no Romulans, please.

For whatever reason, I don't know. I want the Ferengi in there instead. You can just have it make a Star Trek episode. That's a valid form of entertainment because I know this because there are video game machinima that kind of does this. There's stuff out there. Fan fixing that people really get into and it's Hey, what if I could license out all these characters and just have, it could be a new type of thing.

I don't know, this is very interesting for movies, but unless they do something yeah, I don't know what's going to happen. 

Real Theo Harvey: Are you concerned about giving them access to stuff? Cause I'm on. Google's VEO or VO, and they're asking for my Google account. I'm scared, Mr. Benja. Should I be? Hey man, they want me to get access to it via my Google account.

So I have to log in with my Google account and I got a lot of issues on my Google account. I don't know about, they probably see it already. Let's be honest. Yeah, 

Mr.Benja: but if don't click yes on that terms of service, unless, you know what, sometimes you just got to start up a different account, man.

Real Theo Harvey: You know what I think I might have to brother Somebody else to try to get my stuff. It was a some tool I wanted to try out with AI and they want me to put in my oh, who is it? It was Claude AI I was playing around with it. And then they said oh we got this cool Great tool. You can just get access to your Google Google folder.

Oh no, son, you almost got me. 

Mr.Benja: Yeah, exactly. So movies, TV by extension, music is, has a similar problem. It's going to get weird, man. I'm just, I'm the saving grace is that we may end up seeing a lot more community involvement in the art itself. Why do you 

Real Theo Harvey: say 

Mr.Benja: that? Because, if it's more homemade more team grown or whatever, then maybe, like you're talking about your independent artists and independent films or whatever, maybe John from down the street has been working on this film.

And he's Hey, everybody, let's go see it. And they're like it's an indie film. It's going to be crap. It was made by AI. It's actually going to be pretty good. And it features stories from our town. It features, the faces from everybody we know, and it could be more of a community thing.

And I just see, I see some people out there in the internet who are really creating a lot with AI are really using it to create content. To create more instead of to try to subvert the process, they want to get their creations out and they're much more connected with their community. It's Hey, community, I want to build this and AI is the fastest way to do it.

Let me do some 3D models. Let me do some backgrounds. Let me do some this and that I can get myself out faster. In fact, our friend Josh AI. He just hit me up about, Hey, check out this movie. I'm working on X, Y and Z. And it's Boom. I'm in because it's community. So 

Real Theo Harvey: that's a good point. I never thought of it like that.

It's AI and we use it to to personalize our communications to patients directly because AI is so quick and they can make adjustments on the fly. You can personalize anything so we could have, was it 7 billion people on the planet? You got 7 billion different movies. You can have a movie just for you or just for your family.

You're right. I could make a move. I just did a my parents celebrate their 50th anniversary, did some video, had a editor, edit it up. Thanks, James. And then showed it on Christmas. But what if I could extend that story? And just, regardless of what I video, but added other pieces in that have been amazing.

So yeah, man I definitely see that happen. Wow. I never thought of it like that, but community based content, community based content. We need to, yeah, we need to market that. 

Mr.Benja: Yeah. And not even movies, but I want to send a, I want to send a thank you to all the people at my church and I want to make a video of it really quickly slap on the AI tools.

Let's go. 

Real Theo Harvey: Okay. So we ended out a positive note. So yes Hollywood, you all will lose your jobs, but guess what? You can make that holiday that, that bomb fire holiday card next year.

Mr.Benja: Don't have eggnog. Don't worry. Just hold up a cup of water. AI will fix it for you. 

Real Theo Harvey: Fix it in post.

Mr.Benja: What's up, what you got, 

Real Theo Harvey: Man, do you want to stay in this kind of influencer market area where, you know, social media, I think, AI. The big thing for me, and I've mentioned this multiple times is I just feel that A. I. Is starting to take over social media, right?

We're seeing I. G. Did you see that recently? There was an article. I didn't get a chance to read. I just saw the headline that they released some A. I. Facebook and stuff and people meta did it, no one liked it, but we're going to see, obviously we got an influx of all these kind of AI content out there, but I think we're going to give rise to more and more of kind of these, not just deep fakes, which is problematic with AI, but also like whole cloth.

Made up individuals, right? That people will create these pair of social relationships with that they're going to fall in love with or be in contact with and believe that they're friends. So I think, we're going to have a whole new group of influencers that are not really people. And because AI can be so much more influencer we talked about this, like the AI Jesus, right?

You can go to that site and you can talk to Jesus anytime. So it's just we're going to see, first we're going to probably use people that use images and people that people know and understand that are not going to sue right now, but eventually, it's going to be individuals.

I'm sure there's people right now, bubbling up to have more followers than you and I, that just AI generated. 

Mr.Benja: Yeah. And you don't have to jump to the very end of this to just say, Oh, why would I want to sit down and watch an AI start from the baby steps? Go to your, go to a website where you have to fill in some information or get a problem resolved and there'll be a little chatbot there.

Most of the chatbots now that are for major institutions are getting replaced with AI chatbots. So I'm like, hey, my graphics card isn't being recognized by the setup I have, what's going on? You go to the website and they're like, Hey, type in your model, type in the type of computer you have.

And it starts talking to you and it's Oh, make sure you have these settings and you uninstalled the software and, give system access to whatever, and your graphics card will run fine and be recognized. And the AI chat bot is telling you this, not some guy in some other country. It's or not some guy, working for Microsoft or whoever it's an actual.

It's an actual AI going through the knowledge base and understanding what you're trying to do. And it knows all the problems. It knows what is, has been said in the forums, so it can just answer your questions. And that's the beginning to me, because you're seeing someone talk to this AI as if it's a person and being happy with the results they're getting back.

Fast forward that into the future. You start showing little faces, little emojis, little characters in games that are like, A tutorial character where it's like, Hey, how do I get to the town of whatever? And it's I'll show you. And the character just by AI knows what to do. Step. Next thing you know, you get on your computer.

I don't want to talk to anybody real who's who watched this movie and wants to talk about it. It's just like AI shows up. Hey man, I saw that movie. I didn't like it. But it's an AI guy, but you like that AI guy. So you say, yeah, I don't like that movie either. You both sit down, you, you rage talk about how you hated it.

It's tough. 

Real Theo Harvey: I'm curious though. Yes. It's scary with open AI and these, anamorphic and, anthropic, excuse me. I want to say anamorphic, anthropic, with Claude and these big AI systems, their ability to create these things, cause they train their models so fast with so much data, but I'll be curious, man, I wondered this whole hobbyist movement, and AI, where basically you can build your own kind of rig, or your AI system, and you can actually run AI locally on your own computer. And some of these models and some of these models are Pretty sophisticated that you can run on just a, a basic gaming PC. And so I'm curious to see, we're going to see more of that.

Cause that's something I'm curious in it because like I said, I don't trust the big guys, with my content, but if I create my own and I train my own yes, I'm using Metas, but at least it's open. Quote unquote, open AI, where we can understand how the AI is getting trained. At least I can understand how my model is being trained, and then I can control that.

So I'd be curious to see if we're going to see a growing movement of that because I foresee I think the legal Argument. It's just beginning, man. These Hollywood guys have been around for free for 100 years, right? They have legal guys looking at this up and down. And I know they're scared, especially the top of the food chain because you're saying I'm making 100, 25 million per movie.

And now, because you already have all my images, you only gonna pay me 5 million for a few seconds. Few different words, for a movie. No, that's not going to fly, man. So these folks will be like, I can't, I'm not getting paid that less for that, for a fake version of Tom Cruise, doing mission impossible a hundred.

Which, not besides at all fine, but then, they're going to want lots and lots of money for that. 

Mr.Benja: Yeah, no it's interesting because, there's that the cost benefit thing that everybody's going to be doing with each other in their heads. It's man, I did that role of the penguin and, maybe he's a bad example, Colin is a bad example because he actually enjoys that penguin role.

But, there are characters that didn't like what's her name? Jennifer Lawrence. Was it in the X Men? No. Oh not as Jennifer Lawrence. Yeah. Mystique. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe they don't want to get in, into the whole costume every time and they think to themselves, you know what? This is only going to be a short little stint.

I don't feel like traveling all the way out to the studio, getting done by makeup for six hours just for this short little scene. You know what? Let AI do it. And if I don't get paid as much, that's okay. I'll still fulfill my obligation. I want the part to be. To be created. I just don't want to go through all that hoopla again.

It brings up bad memories. Maybe, I don't know. And then you start to see, they do, everyone's doing their cost benefit. I was like, you know what, if I do this, then that means I have to get all my cinematographers together and my favorite sound guy, but then that means we have to bring along that color corrector that no one likes.

Oh goodness. Okay. Instead of that, let's just have AI do the color correction for the scene. Whatever. And it starts to chip away at the integrity of not the integrity. I do want to say integrity, the core of what we classically thought movie making was about. 

Real Theo Harvey: Yeah, man, it's going to be a different world with which it always is.

I'm not too concerned about that. We got it, technically 2025 is the beginning of gen beta. Gen alpha is like my kids, 2025 is his new generation, gen beta. So they're going to be the AI natives, right? They go, that's all they're going to know is AI. So this is going to be wild.

They, like I said, you talk about dating now, man, we just like people. Breaking up by blocking you on dms and dropping you off ig. You don't follow. You look at who follows you, man. AI is gonna take that to a whole nother level brother. Guess what? Nobody's gonna be rejected . 

Mr.Benja: Yeah. They just don't know.

Did you want to finish these up and go over them? Yeah. 

Real Theo Harvey: Yeah. We'll go over them real quick. Yeah, let's go. 

Mr.Benja: All right. , military, that's one that was interesting to me because it's the military. They're going to do stuff and they're going to force you to go abide by what they're doing.

I was just watching these videos of and this isn't completely AI. We're getting a little bit into drone tech here. I recently saw these, all these drone videos coming out of China. These drones are out of control. They're doing all types of maneuvers. They're doing shows. They're integrating with fireworks displays, and we're talking thousands of drones here, just doing the whole Spider Man no way home kind of action with Mysterio, and it's actually happening in our lifetime, but.

Everybody has. The quiet thing hasn't been being said out loud is that, Hey, this drone tech can be used militarily and they're really spending a lot of money trying to make it work. I know they're not spending all this money just to make cute fireworks displays. And according to the places I've read, it's Oh yes, it's not like a big secret.

That's what we're doing. There are a lot of. Applications outside of entertainment, but this is how we're using it to test and get better at drone technology and that's the military. So yeah, man not the same kind of drones by the way, but you get the idea. 

Real Theo Harvey: Here in Orlando, Florida and Orlando, the seven year old boy was seriously injured by a drone in Orlando or the holiday with one of those shows.

And the tech is getting more crazy and these fancy fantastical kind of fireworks displays and either right, they, I think we saw at comic con, they started to use those to create whole images of spider man and Wolverine and Deadpool. And so it's just they're going to get more and more complicated.

But to your point, this. This is just fun stuff, right? The military has the good stuff and we're going to start seeing more and more sightings. There was those sightings. Remember? Did you hear about that? About New Jersey? All those Jones sightings all of a sudden, just flying over.

Yeah, that was a big, Thing even Trump talked about it. So yeah, man, I don't know where this is going, and AI that's imparted into it. It's just making it more intelligent. It's this, yeah, this is now we're in the future. 2025 AI powered drones, right? That's a 2025 

Mr.Benja: Topic right there.

Yeah. So imagine this and I'm going to put this out there because Let me be careful how I say this. So imagine let's, first of all, let's separate the hobby drones, the, the little four propeller guys from the military drones, which are these sleek little miniature airplane looking things with big hits.

It's got the camera and all the sensors in the front. So take those camera the military style ones and have them start behaving like the fun, happy ones. So You're just chilling and down the street comes a big swarm of these military style joints and they break off into different directions, start wreaking havoc all over the place.

It's not a far stretch. And I know if, regular lay people on the Internet are thinking about this, science fiction writers are thinking about this, someone's grandma's thinking about this. It's the military is thinking about this. Drone tech was just one place I thought of with AI and it's scary.

Real Theo Harvey: Yeah, there was an episode of, I want to say that Twilight zone, a new Twilight zone where you got arrested instead of being arrested, they would put a drone on you. And follow you around and people had to pretend that you were invisible for a year. And so no one, everybody saw a drone hanging around you.

And then and we didn't know what it was called then. It was just like a weird little thing. It's what is that? That, that would never exist, but I can see tech like that now where they'll follow people. They even have one, I think saying guys that DGI, I think that's the name of the camera company there.

They create group drones. They ever have a mini drone where you could probably do a personal one. I can follow you around and you can deliver content while, in the air so you can talk to it and move it around. People are doing that now for aerial shots, but what if you have something that's just follow you around while you're talking and delivering content?

That's crazy. Yeah I'm talking about the fun stuff. I know you're talking about the more scary stuff, but I just want light in the mood, man. . 

Mr.Benja: Okay. Wait the mil, Hey, how about this light in the mood? The military, it can, you can use the technology to protect people, right?

You're walking around and you've got five or six secret service drones and they've all, they're all got little speakers and they're playing the music, bah, and they're just walking it, walking around, following you. And if anybody tries to mess with you and you've got the secret service drones, it's you get tased, whatever, it's like, Hey, don't mess with that guy.

He's got secret service drones. 

Real Theo Harvey: Oh yeah. Protecting schools. What if they just had drones flying around schools? They're not too expensive. And then checking to see the premises and something pop off. Boom. You know what to do. 

Mr.Benja: I can just imagine something going terribly wrong.

That's my dog. That's my dog. 

Real Theo Harvey: I'll buy that for a dollar. That's from, I buy that for a dollar. Oh man. I love that. That's where things go wrong, right? These military style Parapolice type of thing paramilitary police type force using technology and it goes horribly wrong.

So 

Mr.Benja: hey, man they're already why you tripping. They're already protecting our cities in some spots. You got the little police. Police droids going around, checking stuff out and where the AI comes in at is it's using AI to figure out what is a threat. What's not a threat is that a person or is that a mannequin?

Is this a kid crossing the street or is this a stray dog running across the street? Did someone drop their balloon or groceries or was this an incendiary device? It's it's got to figure out all this stuff. So that's where AI comes in at and you start, you'll start to see massive jumps in the things they're able to try because of AI.

Real Theo Harvey: You know what? Luigi, man, then they get them by just looking as they got some face, facial constructions technology when you pull down his mass and talk to the girl inside the Starbucks. There you go. The is using that to use facial technology scanning technology to find out what people are.

And yeah, and that's why, I knew New York was going to catch them. I was like, they couldn't let this slide. That city's too big. If someone can get away that quick and easy, man, it would have been open season. Yeah. So they had to wrap that up quick and AI helped with that. 

Mr.Benja: Yeah. All right.

Anything else you want to jump on? 

Real Theo Harvey: Or anything else on their banking? Yes, it's going to take over banking. As Ari has, they don't want to admit it, but I can guarantee. Yeah, AI is proliferating on gaming gambling sites, especially on poker sites that I read that it was a book by Nate silver it was talking about how gamblers are adjusting to the new world, and so poker used to be all online. Remember moneymaker, he won the poker world series. And AI bots, it's just they have to go back to go. To, to real people, because it's just, it's all these algorithms out there just fighting each other out and gambling. And so in banking, I think it's going to be similar.

It was just like all these scams. How many scams are you getting? How many scams did you potentially pick up on? I saw at least 10 that could have got my way and probably about another 20 more, but I just didn't even pick up my phone. So it's, scam malicious, man, banking, man.

It's got to figure out how to. Protect against that. So I don't know, man, it's going to be interesting. 

Mr.Benja: It's funny. Cause there's so much good that can be done with AI and banking. I think where it's AI could be like, Hey. You really should move your money into this and this, now that you've moved to the city, because the risk of blah, blah, blah, or whatever, I don't know.

Changes the whole, finance game. If you're for personal finance or business finance, even where it's Hey, I want to do this much money. I need to save this much. And a lot of people may not have access to, financial planners or just the kind of information they need.

If I have my AI digital financial planner, looking at my bank account, like you're screwing up, son, you need to do this. And it's Oh, okay. Thank you. Thank you. AI planner. 

Real Theo Harvey: It can do that already. You know that, right? If you get at GPT is, your banking account, someone did that. You can ask, Hey, where am I doing wrong?

Oh yeah. You spend too much dog food. Kill the dog 

Mr.Benja: at this rate, you will have spent 4. 2 million on dog food when you could have just asked. Like really? 

Real Theo Harvey: Exactly. So yeah, man, I'm playing with a lot over the break, just to do different experiments with it. And I had to read the Christmas story.

Usually read the Christmas story at Christmas about the birth of Jesus. So I had chat GPT do it. It didn't go over well, but it was fun.

That's 

Mr.Benja: I can only imagine the comedy. 

Real Theo Harvey: Oh yeah, it was fun. So Mr. Benjamin yeah, look, AI is here. We're going to talk about more, more, how's it changing our lives. Me and Mr. Benjamin probably doing our own individual experiments. So maybe we'll bring them. What we learned over the next couple of this year, over and over again.

Mr.Benja: If you get, and if you have any particular insights or, links we should check out or anything like that on where AI is showing up, that people aren't really talking about, or that people aren't expecting beauty, fashion, sports, logistics, manufacturing development, toys child rearing, space flight, whatever.

Let us know. There's no end to this. So I'm just excited. And a little bit apprehensive about where things are going, but. It should be fun, right? Because the future is fun. 

Real Theo Harvey: The future is fun, man. I think we're apprehensive cause we're old and that's just the nature of being older. You get a little apprehensive about, think about it when we were growing up.

Think about when we were growing up, everybody's like, Oh, yo MTV raps and music's going to corrupt our brains. We're all going to be cussing, doing all this other stuff. Oh, drugs, this is going to kill us all. And so it's it's just the nature of, The future, the older folks always are more fearful because they just don't they live so long.

They just Oh, this is similar to that. And that could be terrible. But the young folks, man, I talked to my kids. They just like, whatever this is, they just live in their life, man. They don't know no difference. 

Mr.Benja: It's weird when you get that random kid that's y'all, we better watch out for that. And you're like, 

Real Theo Harvey: you've been here before, 

Mr.Benja: but you're worried about, 

Real Theo Harvey: I love it, man.

Why not? It's been a good episode as always, man. I'm super excited about this year. Mr. Benja, thanks for talking about AI and bringing this up to the forefront. So look guys, if you like what we talked about, please subscribe and comment at show versus business on X threads, YouTube, and Instagram.

Listen to us at Spotify, iTunes, or wherever you listen to podcasts, visit Our website show versus business. You can see some more information there. All right, guys, have a great one. Peace.

Okay. James, we're about to do our intro. I'm switching the Y I'm wide. Oh, what baby? Look at me. You can see me now. You can see the house. All right. So

tell me when you're ready.

Mr.Benja: Take it to the bricks.

Yeah.

All right. How did you want to bounce back and forth on this? Yeah, we can just 

Real Theo Harvey: ask. Yeah, whatever you I'll let you kick it off. Okay. I can't go into my spiel. 

Mr.Benja: All right, going in. Theo, it's 2025 and AI is going to take over and we're going to talk about it. I think we just had a good podcast where we went over the possible ramifications of AI in a lot of different industries.

And it's actually pretty good. Scratch, start over. Sorry. Don't do that, James. Take two, we're doing it live.

Theo, we've got a great episode and you know it because you just did the episode with me talking about AI and things that are going to change in 2025 and beyond a lot of different industries getting disrupted and we go over some of the top 5, Seven, however many we went over and really get into what AI is going to do to change things.

And before that we got into a little news and stuff little, a couple of little bits here and there. What did you think was interesting about the show? 

Real Theo Harvey: Man. Great show as always, man. AI. This is a scary thing. We even covered that even in our news bits with some interesting things that are happening in a I licensing.

One of the things that we did talk about also was super exciting about music industry. So interesting artists. Look, you like doje if you like charlie XCX talk about it. That's what we do. So look, we're going to get into a lot of that good stuff and look content. Around what's happening, but I do want to remind everyone, Mr.

Benja, if you don't mind me, just mention this to everybody. Look, please subscribe, smash all that stuff, that like button. That's what they say, right? Smash that like button because we're trying to get you guys to see what we have out there. This is more and more content coming in 2025. So yeah, it was a good episode, Mr.

Benja. I'm trying to think, was there anything else? Oh, we even talked about your favorite guy. James Gunn, DC studios. We did talk about James 

Mr.Benja: Gunn and that guy. Anyway, check down in the show notes. If you want to jump straight to the AI portion, otherwise we're about to get into show versus business episode one 99 with a bunch of news filler in the front.

Of the AI. Let's get to it. 

Real Theo Harvey: Let's go. All right, James. I think we're good there. I'm going to stop the recording. 

Okay.