Show Vs. Business
Show Vs. Business
SvB E200 California is Burning and Social Media Goes Crazy!
The 200th Episode of Show vs Business!
We are going to dive deep into the devastating LA fires, reflecting on the real-life impact of natural disasters on communities and content creation.
They discuss the emotional weight of these events, the evolving role of influencers in shaping narratives, and how platforms like Meta are making controversial moves around free speech and content moderation.
From Zuck’s strategy to TikTok’s potential ban, they explore the shifting landscape of social media, digital influence, and resilience in uncertain times. Join us for insights, laughs, and a celebration of 200 episodes!
00:00 Introduction and Episode 200 Celebration
00:18 Discussing the LA Fires
01:40 Personal Impact of Natural Disasters
08:12 Insurance and Business Implications
11:26 Influence of Social Media and Politics
23:04 Show vs Business: TV and Movie Highlights
33:57 Comic Book Culture and Awards
34:18 Golden Globes and Football
34:39 History and Controversy of the Golden Globes
35:06 Revamping the Golden Globes
36:56 Changing Media Consumption
38:16 Landman and TV Recommendations
40:50 Zuckerberg's Recent Moves
46:40 The Power of Hyperscalers
53:36 Influencers and Platform Shifts
57:23 AI Influencers and Privacy Concerns
01:00:17 Celebrating 200 Episodes
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Introduction and Episode 200 Celebration
Real Theo Harvey: This is show versus business where pop culture means pop money. If your host, the real Theo Harvey and Mr. Benja. So Mr. Benja, this is episode 200. What we're going to talk about today
Mr.Benja: man. It's funny. I was going to say I'm fired up. I shouldn't say that.
Discussing the LA Fires
Mr.Benja: I was going to say it's lit. I shouldn't say that because if you've read through the caption and the thumbnail, that we're going to talk about What's a little bit about what's happening here in L.
A. County. And that's these this insane fire that's going on right now. We're not going to try to break down all the news and everything like that. But it's just such a point of discussion for so many things. I'm out here. Air quality is bad. It's just a really interesting time and interesting start to 2025.
Interesting start to the 200th episode. And you know what, we're going to keep it hype, man. I thank you for getting a little hype before every podcast, because, part of me is over here just I want to be on podcast. I just want to watch reaction videos, but you give me hype, man. I appreciate that.
Theo. Thanks. No.
Real Theo Harvey: Hey, that's what we do, man. Iron sharpens, iron. Love it.
Mr.Benja: That's right. But yeah, we got we got a couple of things going on in this one. We have We're going to talk about some movies. Some things went on this week especially around the world of Instagram, meta and Facebook and threads Zuck's making changes and everybody's all up in arms.
Tick tock band NVIDIA has got a 3, 000 AI computer. Got an emotion control for AI. Amazon is going in, changing movies and things. It's all crazy. We may not get to all those stories, but look them up if you have the time. More terrestrially what happened with you this week? Do you, how are you doing?
Real Theo Harvey: I'm doing good, man, but I think we should switch it up, man. Let's start with you first. How are you doing with all the. Stuff going on the LA fires. We'll talk more about it later, definitely devastating. If you've seen all the news and just, not just celebrities living, losing homes, but people out of work and people have actually died from this.
So Mr. Benjamin, how are you doing out there in Los Angeles? I have an uncle out there. I did reach out to him and he said he was doing okay. He's over by the Hollywood bowl. So I think he said he wasn't as bad. But yeah, I know. Just LA in general though, it's the air quality, like you said, and just, thinking about what's going on and seeing the images, it does not look good.
Yeah, talk about it from your underground level.
Mr.Benja: Oh, it's it's wild. It really is. It's one of those things where, natural disasters happen to everybody. And this to being in Florida, we talked about Hurricane Milton earlier, and that was a big issue. It's funny the fire season always starts up, and like most natural disasters, people are like, oh my god, how come they didn't see this coming? Part of it's we're used to it, so we're never expecting everything to come together to actually be a disaster. It's usually just a natural phenomenon, and we're okay.
But now this is a certified disaster, and I am not in any immediate danger zone. The fires are, there were four major ones I would say, that were around, and most of that action is not Right next to me, but you can feel the effects, the traffic changes, the shopping changes, the, if you're a play GTA San Andreas, you see how orange it is, the vision changes.
Like you go outside and you're Whoa. You start hearing the San Andreas theme playing in your head and you're like, this is crazy. I know it's stereotypically looks orange like this, but when it's really like that, it's wild. And as I said, everybody's a little bit tired because of the air quality.
And that takes the oxygen out of your, out of the air and not out of the air, but it affects your breathing. At least it does for me. I'm an I was a child asthmatic. It, it does mess with me a bit. And yeah, man, it's like I'm constantly looking at my phone, checking all the apps to make sure that the fire hasn't spread anywhere.
I actually got a warning a day ago. So something, most of the fires are happening north of me. I got a warning that stuff was happening south of me. And that's scary because usually when you see it like a fire or something, you're thinking, okay, When the time is right, I'll just get my things evacuate and there's a, a planned route that you take, but if the winds blow and start picking up like embers, stuff can pass over miles and land somewhere else and start a fire on the other side of you, cutting you off.
So I was worried that might happen at one point, but the wind shifted again and. Seems from the clear. Yeah, I'm a little stressed out. Little interesting. Everybody's on edge and unsure about things out here. People are definitely helping each other out. I know friends who have lost houses and, possession.
Terms of degrees of separation, I know it's 1 degree of separation. Yeah, pretty much. Everybody knows somebody who was really affected.
Real Theo Harvey: Yeah. Yeah. Similar, like you said, hurricane Milton and Helene, we actually had two hurricanes late last year that came through here, but that last one Milton really affected things and you're right, man.
It's just, it's devastating. I had a lot, me personally, my house, luckily no roof damage, but I see all the roof damage in my neighbor's house houses. You see some of the flooding that came down. And so it's like when you actually it. In a disaster. You're right. That's when it becomes real.
First is on TV. And then when you're actually in it, then you're like you you were worried about like the embers and the fire getting to you from the south and things like that. I was worried that night. It was like 2 a. m. And it was that loud. And I was like, Oh, it's a tree going to fall on the house.
And so it's yeah, you're, In the midst of the disaster. And that's when it becomes more personal. It's intellectual when you're watching other people, but it happens to you. It's Oh,
Mr.Benja: yeah, exactly. I wonder what kind of weather conditions and climate change led up to this sad thing. When you're in it, you're like, can I get toilet paper?
Real Theo Harvey: Exactly. It's becomes more visceral, more like emotional. So definitely, man. I'm glad you're doing well.
Mr.Benja: I turned on the water in my faucet. It was a little funky today. I'm like, what's that? I just. I don't know.
Real Theo Harvey: Brother, yeah. Be safe out there, man. Definitely. And anything else, were you able to get some work done or at all this week?
Mr.Benja: You know what? Hard to and we can just flow into the pub right now, the major parts. It's hard to work normally during these times, as I said, I'm constantly looking at my phone, seeing if anybody I know has said anything or need something. Because there's that effect to if somebody's crap, the roads are closed.
I can't get to my house. Can I crash at your place? Kind of thing, right? So there's all of that. And it's happening all the time. And I'm seeing it just around me. And. It's hard to think like on the stuff that I'm supposed to do. I know I'm supposed to do this, that, and that, I just broke out like a new sketchbook and started throwing out all kinds of new ideas, why it was the only thing that my mind was just running on at the time.
And then. Then I put that down and watched reaction videos, but that's something different, but yeah, it was hard to, everything seemed so impermanent. That's what it is. Everything just seemed like, whatever, man, impermanent doesn't matter. It's going to burn up anyway, in the back of my head.
Real Theo Harvey: Wow. That's emotional, man. Cause you're saying that, wow, this is a real and really becomes the human connection and emotion and people that you're connected to and what they need help with. And you're right. You hear these stories, people. Houses burned down. It's you can't take all that stuff in your house with you.
So it becomes vital. What is the most, you think about your house and your possession, what's the most important thing you can take with you? That would lead to something that means enough to you. And I was just like, wow, what in my house would I just absolutely have to take if I can only take a couple of things.
And yeah, man that's crazy, man.
Insurance and Business Implications
Real Theo Harvey: It's just and, we're flowing into this, the one aspect, it's a show versus business, the business aspect of is the same thing that happened here in florida insurance come to find out a lot of people weren't insured for these homes that are getting burnt up and it was because of what happened.
Previously, right? They knew this is happening. The actual actuaries, the number crunchers who use statistics to determine certain things and disasters, they said, Oh, this zone is a fire zone. So guess what? You're not going to be insured. And that's the same thing happens here in florida. And it's devastating people, man.
So now you lose everything, but you can't get it back. Can't even get money to get of your life back. And tha thing. And I think
this i this is going to be the big areas that people in florida are becoming h because of hurricanes and things like that. And so when disaster comes, you pretty much are S. O. L.
Mr.Benja: Yeah. And then as we talked about on the our healthcare episode, sometimes they give you a lot of pushback on getting your claims or getting the full amount.
You think you're owed, even if they do give a claim, it's like they may just throw pennies at you. And what do you do?
Real Theo Harvey: Yeah. And so that's the devastating part from the business side of it, man. They've already done some actual statistics on what's happened, the next 20, 25 years, coast, whole coastal land will be gone, because of this stuff, so climate changes is real and so I don't know if we're doing enough to stem the tide at this point, but we're feeling the effects of.
Areas that are being affected by a lot of this.
Mr.Benja: Yeah. And it's funny. It makes the, it makes the digital play that we always talk about. Like how much do you outsource? How much can do work from home? How much can you collaborate over the internet, AI, et cetera. And. Every time something not like this, but every time some major event happens, it seems like we just slide more to well, we can do it remotely.
Yeah, that's easier. Let's do that. Boom. It's like the when COVID happened. It's like all of a sudden zoom became a thing. A lot of people weren't thinking about zoom every day before it now. Now I got college kids talking about, Hey, man, we about to set up our big NCAA tournament zoom discussion and it's Oh, okay.
I guess. So I thought it was for business, out of nowhere.
Real Theo Harvey: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely.
Influence of Social Media and Politics
Real Theo Harvey: It's changed behavior and, and we're creating these parasocial relationships with. Social media influences stars. And so to your point, we're becoming more isolated in our own little bubbles. And AI is not gonna make that any easier to connect with people outside of our homes.
So yeah, man, we are in that we are in the future. It's 2025. And so we are being very pessimistic on that. Too much of an episode, but
Mr.Benja: It was no, this is a good place. From the ashes grow the new life. The new tree of life. That comes from the ashes. They even have the phrase, up from the ashes.
Boom. That's what we're doing here.
Real Theo Harvey: So what? Obviously social media is a big part of this fires. Obviously it's in L. A. Which is the hub of storytelling and telling stories and communicating. It seems like there's not a lot of good information coming out of these things.
Is that's my impression.
Mr.Benja: Oh not like right away. It never happens like on the spot right now. We still gotta, fling mud and do our online gamesmanship, play the blame game, say it wasn't my fault. It was their fault. Bring up whatever activism you have and, it'll be a part of the story because everybody gets riled up.
People are talking about. Insurance scams. People are talking about general health care, air quality, the environment housing costs, homelessness. Some people were talking about pets, all these pets having to deal with this. And there was a video of a cougar, And a dog barking at a random cougar walking through the street.
Hey man, my, my house is on fire, dog. I'm coming down to the city. What'd you talk about?
Real Theo Harvey: Hey, I'm in these streets, man. I'm out. Dog's like, why are you coming out of neighborhood?
Mr.Benja: But,
But you know what? The one thing I didn't know, she asked me what I saw, like out here and I'm sure this is true for you too, while the news is there and it's that official kind of thing okay, it's a 6 percent contained in this area and 11, 000 acres.
Okay. You're getting the facts, right? But the discussion doesn't care about the news. All I'm seeing is people risking their lives. There's the one video of a guy with his cars in his garage. And he's just walking around with his famous prized cars and there's fire all around him and he cracks a beer.
This is my last day on earth. And everybody in the comments is. One side of the comments is Hey man, feel for you. Stand strong, and everything. And the other half is dude. Get in that car, try to get somewhere you're not safe where you are. Literally the houses on both sides of him were really on fire and he's just standing between two cars.
So I'm seeing this whole performance. I hesitate to use that word, but this whole performance show share express kind of thing happening. With social media, it's like most of what we've been talking about hasn't been the news. It's just been, at least in my opinion from my point of view, just seeing everybody posting and sharing.
It's like the news organizations and the government very secondary to the real conversation.
Real Theo Harvey: Interesting. Interesting. Are we seeing any major influencers out there talking ish right now? Talk, trying to, I'm in the morning, trying to get my little workout in and I, the news is on, but it's silent.
So that's me. Perfect way to watch the news, but then they show the images, right? And so you got like MSNBC, which is left leaning Fox News is right leaning and even with the news off, you can see the angles. So it looks like Fox was like targeting like the government lack of response and the stuff that, and then they were like, they found some kids who were pissed at the government.
These were teenagers, right? Yeah. They interviewed some teenagers and they just like, showing the images of houses burning down and things like that. And whereas MSNBC was just more peaceful about it. Just trying to have, heartwarming stories. And so it's the agenda is real.
Yeah. Yeah. Telling the stories.
Mr.Benja: I was about to say your boy, but I think at this point he'd be my boy. Cause you always say that, your boy grant Cardone. Yeah, man. Grant Cardone, who I always keep like at arm's distance away. Him, Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, you got to keep them a certain distance away.
Even if you're checking out what they're doing, their business moves their branding or whatever. Cause I'll bring that stuff up and people are like, you like that guy? It's Hey, Look, I'm down for this. I actually bought this from him. Hey, whatever. I do recognize the clownery. And Grant is going in with this.
Grant Cardone is a real estate mogul, online influencer. He paved the way for a lot of the online action you're seeing right now. Big, loud, bodacious, business minded guru type, Hey, listen to me, follow me because I know what I'm talking about. If you want to make money, join my mastermind and all that kind of stuff.
That's great. Cardone. But he can say that cause he actually owns a really substantial business, but he was on the news and on. And is on X and on threads all over the place talking about starting a class action lawsuit against the mayor, the governor, the state, everybody he can find because he's in real estate and I know he's got properties out there that were lost.
So the influencer game is, it's man, he's out there, he's doing it. Talking is noise and this is like real change. I this wasn't possible like this before. You know what I mean?
Real Theo Harvey: Look, we have a convicted felon in the white house. And part of what he got there was number one.
He was a reality star, he's a business person, reality star, and really an influencer. So yeah, I think this is the new norm if people and he's getting away with crimes. They, I don't know if you saw the news, it was hidden in there, but he was his court, his case went all the way up to the Supreme court with one of his legal actions and they still said he was guilty of it, but there was no penalty for it.
So it was he's a he's definitely guilty. But guess what? No penalty. So it's what are we even doing here, man? So it's like, what are we even doing here for donald trump, man? It's because his influence is so wide and obviously the president united states now They can't really do anything.
And so and then you got elon musk who basically the last 30 days Probably tipped the favor of the election toward donald trump even more maybe And so by coming at the last minute, now he's practically, creating his whole department of government efficiency thing and really diving into that.
And so you had these, and he's what the second wealthiest man, or maybe he's still, maybe he's back to the first again, but when the richest man on the planet, and he's got control of a government. And he's not even from America. The influence of game is deep, man.
These people have far reaching power and authority. And the more people that follow you and connect to you, man, you're changing the perception because even here, Oh, remember here in Florida, the big scandal was FEMA is not giving money to the MAGA people. That was a big, or don't trust FEMA to give you money.
And so people were, telling FEMA, get out of here. They're trying to literally help you put money in your pocket so you can get stuff done in your house. People were kicking them out because they didn't trust them because of what influencers told them.
Mr.Benja: It's funny, it's like people don't realize it, but to that point, with all the influencers, a couple of years ago not a couple of years ago, but slowly over time, we've been seeing, you used to have these people who could just, go in a room, do their work.
They'd get accused of something, they'd go to court and then they'd come out and be like, no facts. And then they wouldn't say anything. They would just walk about their business. Now it's I don't want to say, truth be damned, but if you don't have some type of social media presence, it's like the machine won't even fight for you.
Real Theo Harvey: Ooh,
That's deep bars right there. Down the machine won't fight for you guys. Some presence
Mr.Benja: out there. I know it's if you've got a list of things to do, it's like you can we can convict this guy or we could look into everything that this. These reports have been saying that the people online have been talking about and have been trending.
Okay we wanna make sure we're checking in with the public, so let's look more into this. And it becomes a thing and it all gets connected. Like so much stuff could fall through the cracks, but if the people are loud enough, it's like it won't, it's just gonna, that's gonna be the discussion whether right or wrong.
Now we're in a situation where it's yeah, even if, trump is wrong. Cardone is wrong. The mayor is wrong or whatever. The story is The influence is part of the story. Now that's what I'm trying to say. It's like all this chatter, all this discussion that we've been having, it's part of the story.
It's like a big interactive story now. So it can't be separated anymore.
Real Theo Harvey: Yeah, I think that's the case. And so it's very interesting time we're living in here, man. It's I think we always had people quote unquote felt like they're above the law, but it's just so many people that.
It does seem like just way more people than it ever was before, especially if you have some kind of presence in your own sphere of influence. And yeah, man, it's just this crazy time that we kind of living in figuring this out, how this can work.
Mr.Benja: Did you see did you see the mayor when they caught the mayor of LA yeah, LA on on a plane, and I don't know how this reporter got there or whatever.
But. The mayor was waiting on the door to the walkway or whatever to open and she's just standing there like contemplating everything as this journalist is grilling her like, Hey, did you think that you had enough? Should you have been out of the country and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. If she's just And the way it just came across as bad, man, like even if you, even if the best thing was not to say anything to this person, it just looked bad. It really looked bad. So I'm like, oh and now everybody's, I don't know if you've seen that video, right?
Real Theo Harvey: No, I need to look at Karen Bass is the mayor of Los Angeles.
Yeah. Yeah, she's been a fixture in LA politics for a long, I think she was in politics even cause she's 71 years old. Politics when I was there 20 something years ago. But yeah. Yeah. That goes to your point though. It's look, the government officials. They should have more influence and they're not right.
And that's why they're losing the battle. They need to figure out, have more of a presence, but because they're behind these institution and they uphold the institution, they try to, use the old traditional channels to. Maneuver, manipulate people, press releases and the traditional media, but that's not flying no more, man.
You need to, if you are going to be in politics and all that, you need to have other channels to reach out to people outside of those stay at traditional channels or, and you need to be able to communicate it pretty effectively because people are just going to be like, cause you say nothing now you might as well just be invisible.
You might, if you can't say and communicate your viewpoint, in a controversial way that grabs attention. 'cause we're all in the attention game. That's where we are. We're trying to grab people's attention. For those that don't know, you can't grab.
Mr.Benja: Yeah. For those that don't know, we moved out of the information age into the attention.
Age. Sorry if you missed it.
Real Theo Harvey: Yep. People missed it, man. We are about attention because that's the most and that and more and more. There's some things that you and I are probably, they hacked our attention. Like you were saying, you've got the rabbit hole reaction videos. I get in the rabbit hole watching videos on, 1970, I get a rabbit hole of Hollywood facts.
It's just but the algorithm grabs that attention. And so if someone can break through and grab that attention, that becomes the most valuable commodity right now. And most politicians don't know how to do that. It's it's
Mr.Benja: insane. I don't know.
Entertainment Corner: Squid Game and DC Studios
Mr.Benja: Do you want to talk about Zuck a little now?
Real Theo Harvey: Do you want to do something funny? I can go do my little movie corner real quick. TV show corner. Then we can get to Zuck in a second.
Mr.Benja: Too much heavy stuff all at once.
Real Theo Harvey: Yeah, Zuck, man. That's a whole nother issue, man. Okay. Yeah.
Mr.Benja: So what's the way you say you've been watching some stuff? What's been going on?
Real Theo Harvey: Yeah, man, this is show versus business. And I do like to watch a show every now and then. And just giving you highlights from what I saw recently when they cover that, so did you know that squid game was back? Mr. Benjamin, did you know that, did you care?
Mr.Benja: No, I do care. I am going to, I'm going to sign up, re sign to Netflix and watch it.
Real Theo Harvey: Okay. Yeah. When you watch it, let me know what you think. Interesting season. I won't spoil it too much, but. I think most people didn't realize that this is a part one of a two parter and so there's going to be a season three.
So just FYI, Mr. Benjamin yeah. So don't be surprised. So I think that's why a lot of people are yeah, this is okay. The story's not over yet. But I was intrigued at how, Cause the first episode, I was like, okay, they're going to take forever to get back in. I hate that.
When you watch a show, the initial premise of the show, it's two people got to be together or this guy got to go back to a place. So they did the first season, generically speaking. So The season's over, right? So they start another season. They're in two different places. The two people that gotta be together, they're in two different places.
The guy is not at the place he needs to be at, right? So you know it's oh crap, I'm gonna be here for three episodes before he gets to that place, right? The
Mr.Benja: character's gotta go on the journey.
Real Theo Harvey: Yes. And but it's got to reconvince them. And that always is a problem to me. I always fast forward that part.
Just look, I just want to be back at the place or I want the two people to get together. I don't want, but, so sometimes that is so contrived and so hack night, but I tell you, man, they did a great job that first episode, man. I thought I was going to be born all that day. They brought the fire that for, I was like, okay, look at square game.
So I was pleasantly surprised. There's some good villains too here on this season. And the whole ec man, the genius man, the, that the, I can't remember the director's name or I probably wouldn't even pronounce it correctly, but he's genius. He understands. Very delicately and around how economic structures are built and what does that mean in our society now?
And so the way he structures things to make sure people want to participate or are against each other is reminisce reminiscent of where we are in our society today. And so when you watch squid game, you like, Oh, This is really a satire.
Mr.Benja: Yeah. So even if you haven't seen it, this is not spoilery. One thing that I think will enrich your experience is just thinking about the, like the economic situation just in general, if you keep that in mind as you watch it, I think it'll throw a good little sprinkle of paprika on your experience.
Real Theo Harvey: Oh, yeah, I definitely, we're going to pull up my Adam Smith, man. Dust it off. Wealth of nations. Let me read this again. Man, the all powerful market, man. It is undefeated, man. Just it's crazy. But anyway, and then going on the another television show I watch your boy,
Mr.Benja: Yeah,
Real Theo Harvey: James Gunn, my boy, just finished his first DC Studios project, Creature Commandos.
So yeah, when he announced this, you remember, I think that was like, was it about two years ago? It seemed like it was a long time ago when he announced these are the projects that we're going to do for DC Studios. And he says, it's gonna be Superman. It's gonna be this. It's gonna be bold, Batman, bold, and this.
And he just came up with all the, and then first, the first Vision of it's going to be called gods and monsters, right? He's okay, what's he doing here? And he said, the first thing we're going to do is go creatures commando. So when I saw it, I was like, creature commandos. This is some like 1945, like army ish.
He's trying to recreate is nothing like that. It's basically just, literally DC does have. A comic about creature commandos who basically, exactly. No one really cared, about these creatures, fighting crime, but that's just DC, man. They did all kinds of stuff. Just they out here had and Marvel, they had the beyonder in the white pants.
So it's, this is what we do. Look it up. But yeah, DC, they Here's your commando. So I watched the show and definitely look, I think he's a good writer. He's an interesting writer. I don't think he's, he's definitely profane is very profane. It can be very graphic as well.
Yeah. A little bit. Some graphic, violence there. But he does have a inkling, an inkling of some humanity there, right? If you like the what was the guardians of the galaxy where he goes into what's this rocket, raccoon and his backstory. I don't know if he's all guards, the galaxy three yet.
Mr.Benja: Yeah. So that
Real Theo Harvey: whole storyline. Yeah. So it's, how he, we always put that element of heart somewhere in the rocks, and it's or the heart in the In the mix of your, the heart, explode exploding on someone's face, so it's just yes that's just his M.
O. So I can I
Mr.Benja: appreciate that. James Gunn movies have a lot of heart dot exploding in your face.
Real Theo Harvey: Yes, that's that mixes everything. James, put that out there. Yeah. But anyway, make a long story short. I thought it was a decent show. It was just a little too graphic for me, but I watched all of it.
Just to see where he was going with it. Still unsure what this means for DC studios. So to me, I think the jury's still out on what this all means. Pleasant show, but definitely long term.
Mr.Benja: Could it go live action?
Real Theo Harvey: All the actors are, they're going to be the same actors, so basically the people who who are delivering the voice overwork will also play the characters in live action.
Mr.Benja: Wait, I don't know. That's that's already a thing or.
Real Theo Harvey: Yeah, that's done deal. What
Mr.Benja: Oh, okay.
Real Theo Harvey: Yeah. So everybody, cause Viola Davis is still Amanda Waller and she shows up with her voice. Of course. So everybody who has a voice on that show will show up as that character later on in live action in some form.
Mr.Benja: Okay. I only thought it was a cartoon and that's, that was the extent of it. And for now it is, but there's live action coming apparently.
Real Theo Harvey: Why not? Yeah. I don't know if it's live action for the creature commandos, maybe for those characters that might pop up in Superman or something like that.
But. It's and then also the cannon is such that if they reference it in a cartoon, then it happened. If they don't reference it, it didn't happen or they, so that's basically, so anything in peacemaker, of course, James gun, suicide squad, James gun. All canon now, but anything else outside of that?
Mr.Benja: Okay.
Okay. So hold on. I got a misquote here. This misleading, stupid misleading website was talking about David Harbor from creature commandos playing Frankenstein in live action and. It got me to think that it was coming live action already. Yeah,
Real Theo Harvey: He might. Yeah. He, yeah.
David Harbor is, creature commando as well as the guardian, the Russian character from thunderbolts. So it's, yeah. Vindicator. Is that his name? Okay. Is that what I thought it was called? It's not called the guardian. What's the, yeah, what's the rest of you? Oh my gosh. I'm sorry.
Mr.Benja: Yes. I'm messing up today. All this, the smoke inhalation.
Real Theo Harvey: Oh, no worries, man.
Mr.Benja: No, he's the guardian, but the guardians related to vindicator because how, okay. He's
Real Theo Harvey: the red guardian.
Mr.Benja: All right. That, that's a tangent. I'll probably, we'll get some notes on that one. I've never said this before, never said this before, but I'm going to put notes in the comments notes in the description about the guardian.
Real Theo Harvey: Okay.
Mr.Benja: Yeah. I'll just clear that up there.
Real Theo Harvey: Do it. All right. And then last but not least There's another show, but we probably talk about it. I know you probably didn't even know, but what if premiered and I actually watch all those. Not good. Not good at all. Yeah. They just, they just screwed the pooch on that one, man.
They had so much potential with what if. Premise for MCU and it was just, it was basically just a commercial to make off band characters a thing and give, I guess all the actors had signed like, 10 picture deals. And so they met, they had to use some of their voices probably for this thing, but it was like, I was watching this YouTube video the other day and said, man, they could have had so many better, what if episodes and the ones that they created, he was right.
He did one simple one. He said, this is a simple one. You get it done. Off the dome. He said, what if the, instead of the original Avengers staying, the other Avengers stayed. So basically after the snap. So basically if it was switch, so Iron Man disappeared, but Peter Parker stayed. That's boom, genius.
Yeah. There's
Mr.Benja: not like a lot of thought involved, but it's something you'd want to see.
You
don't necessarily need to be dug into the lore. You're just like. How would they have handled all that time? So
Real Theo Harvey: exactly. So it's like that's that was simple, right? But it was like they are, they were trying to create this whole kind of storytelling about the watcher and Peggy and how they had a connection.
Oh, God, no one cares. Exactly. So it was like, what are y'all doing? But guess what? Peggy Carter is still probably coming, man, coming back. That's the rumor. So it's they love that. I get it, it's something cool about a female Captain America, but. They're gonna try to bring this character back.
I guarantee you, Mr. Benja, you haven't seen the last of Peggy Carter. Just because she showed up in Captain America movies. She showed up in Ant Man movie. Her own series. Her own series that got canceled. She showed up in a cartoon. Guess what? You're still gonna get more Peggy Carter. I think she's been in more episodes than Iron Man almost.
More Marvel projects than Iron Man. She showed up in Ant Man. I don't know if you remember, she showed up in Ant Man for a hot second. So there you go. And then last but not least, Theo's show movie corner, Penguin, Colin Farrell, the actor who plays a penguin, one best actor in a limited series at the Golden Globes last week as we're recording this.
Golden Globes and Comic Book Prestige
Real Theo Harvey: So is that a win, Mr. Benja, for prestige comic book? I
Mr.Benja: don't know, it was nice to send the headline around to all the comic book nerds are going to go no, we're, Golden Globes, Colin Farrell, Penguin. Comic book stuff is sophisticated. Now watch Creature Commandos, it's
Real Theo Harvey: Remember Angela Bassett, she was also nominated for an Oscar, remember, for Black Panther 2.
Okay. Yeah.
Mr.Benja: Yeah. Yeah. Hey,
Real Theo Harvey: why didn't you watch it? Why didn't you watch the Golden Globes this year? I don't know, man. I was like, Oh, I should watch it.
Football vs. Award Shows
Real Theo Harvey: And then football took over.
I'm a creature of habit. Nothing else, man. I don't watch a lot of football, it's just that, it's good. It's good. Yeah. American male. They're going to sell you on football, man. So
The Evolution of Award Shows
Mr.Benja: I cannot remember the last Golden Globes. I watched. If ever. Yeah, how long have they been around?
Real Theo Harvey: Oh, wow. Denzel was saying he got one like early on in his career. So they got at least been around like 40, 50 years. But remember, they went away because of some controversial. Incidents that have been around picking people and things like that, and some racial incidents. So they finally came back and it was bought by the people who had the trade.
So the people who own the Hollywood Porter, a variety called the Penske organization, they purchased it. And so now they, they re ramped revamping it. And it makes sense for them to purchase it. Cause think about it. If you're running an Oscar campaign. You buy ad space into variety, into all their shows.
And the Golden Globes is a early predictor of Oscar success. Yes. If people care, I don't think people care anymore. Even I'm do I really care about Oscars anymore? I don't think I do.
Mr.Benja: I don't know, but to answer the earlier question, they're on their 80th. They're about to be on their 83rd Golden Globes.
So yeah, definitely been around since I've been around. It's funny. My mom, she like wouldn't care like hardcore care, but whenever a big award show came on, she liked to turn it on and nobody else could watch anything.
Real Theo Harvey: So
Mr.Benja: that was probably the last time I was back home in Tallahassee, Florida, under the orange tree down the street from block video.
I was watching golden glows with my mammy.
Real Theo Harvey: That's funny. Yeah, the ratings, they held steady, so they didn't go down from previous years and it was around 10 million viewers watched it. Which it's okay. But, average football game is getting something like 2030 million.
Mr.Benja: Yeah,
Real Theo Harvey: it's abolished. It's ready.
Mr.Benja: Do you think these shows like Golden Globes, quick tangent, I don't want to stay here, but do you think they evolve and turn into better?
Not better, but they're, hey, the Penguins it's comic books. We're finally catching up or whatever. Is it, do you expect them to change or do our award shows going away? Just a real quick thought on that. I don't even know.
Real Theo Harvey: If the, TV and movies become less prominent in the next generation, not us, we're already sold on movies and TV, but I look at my kids.
It's almost like pulling teeth to get them to watch. A show with me sometimes, it's like, Hey, let's go watch skeleton key. And then, okay, but I can't, and maybe watch one other show or something, but I take them to movies. They're probably the outlier. Unless it's an event and people are talking about it, it's very rare that these kids are going to just sit down and watch like these movies that are quote unquote awards baked.
So what constitutes good acting? And so I don't know, man. I think we're always just like we always have. We still have radio. We still have talk radio, even though it's podcast now. But it's going to be like there.
Mr.Benja: Yeah.
Real Theo Harvey: People like us. We're going to be in our seventies. Oh yeah. Did you see that new movie last night?
I sure did. And the kids will be like, move. What are you talking about? We're watching the latest, Mr. Beast, episode. And then
Mr.Benja: They elbow their friend. No, he still goes to the theater. And
Real Theo Harvey: I'll be like, yes, I do. Come on, let's go buy you some popcorn.
Mr.Benja: You mean that old building on Monroe street in Tallahassee, Florida?
Real Theo Harvey: Yes.
Mr.Benja: Yeah.
Real Theo Harvey: Yes. Anyway, man, thanks for allowing me to do my movie show. show corner.
Mr.Benja: Okay, let's say really quickly. I wanted to watch something this week. What would I watch? What's a good thing that's, you said squid game creature commandos. If you haven't watched penguin yet what's been like the recent thing that people just need to go ahead and get taken care of.
Real Theo Harvey: Landman, if you have paramount plus, how did you land man? You sounded like you had paramount plus you jumped on it quick. Is that still on your rotation?
Mr.Benja: Man, I got paramount minus. I dropped that thing so fast. Paramount plus. Get out of here with it. But no, Landman at first I thought you said Landman, like some guy who has connected computers together on a Novell network or something.
It's Landman.
Real Theo Harvey: Deep cut.
Mr.Benja: What's a local area network, man? You gotta have a whole show about.
Real Theo Harvey: And is he connected to WAN man? This
Mr.Benja: is stupid. Don't do this one. James,
Real Theo Harvey: put it up. James, put it up. They got to know
Mr.Benja: that was reverse psychology. Don't do it. James. Anyway.
Real Theo Harvey: Yeah, man, landman, good show.
Taylor Sheridan. It's about the oil game in Texas and is headed by Billy Bob Thornton hilarious show. But also I learned a lot about like how we really get our energy and it's interesting to check it out.
Mr.Benja: Interesting. All right. But it's a, okay. Yeah. Landman. I'll do that one and then we can talk about it.
What else you got? Are you feeling better now?
Real Theo Harvey: Yes. Thank you, man. I feel like 200 episode had to put some levity in there. So do we want to go to dark corners of the Zuck?
Mr.Benja: Man. It's funny. People were talking about, there was just this thing online where something happened with the wall street journal and Amazon, there was a strike with wall street and the wall street journal was doing something pulling stories or something like that.
Then there was talk about Elon Musk and some shenanigans he was up to and, how he's a big pile of poo and, people were mad at him. And then, somebody else in the comment section was like, yeah, all these rich billionaires and then Mark Zuckerberg. How about in the middle of the comments, somebody threw up a big picture of Zuck, Musk, and Bezos just all hugging arms together in one photo.
And I was just like.
Meta's Big Changes: Zuck Watch
Mr.Benja: But yeah, today's individual of discussion is Zuckerberg and his recent actions the Zuck watch, if you will. Don't know if you read this whole thing or saw how it unfolded, but on Instagram, Facebook and threads all at about the same time, Zuck shows up, with his fluffy hair now and new look.
And he's Hey man, we're getting back to free speech. And he basically goes on to drop a bombshell that there are going to be five big changes that Meta is going to be making in the future. First of all, the one that's got people really pissed off is they're removing fact checkers. And the way this is playing out is let me just list them all very quickly first moving.
Moving getting rid of fact checkers, tightening some policies, reducing over enforcement, reintroducing content changes around politics and moving content moderation out of California. So we don't have to go through all these in heavy or anything, but basically everybody got pissed off that the fact that he was removing fact checkers.
Not the whole story.
He's he's copying Elon Musk. And I hesitate here because there's so many angles to what's going on and what's happening and meta is an extremely big part of the election and social media and life in general now. And he started talking about the fact that fact checkers getting rid of them, they didn't work the way they wanted to, it's too hard to get them to work properly.
And everybody on thread like lost their minds. It was like, this is terrible. It's the worst thing ever. I don't know. I don't know how you felt about the announcement. I don't know if you even saw it.
Real Theo Harvey: Oh yeah. I saw it. You number one, you sent it to me and then I was already reading some stuff on my internet webs and my sources, and I think I sent you a blurb about what they said, obviously people were, but is this, Surprising at all for anybody that's been paying attention.
Zuck is going to win at all costs. And if he sees a pathway, he pivoted toward the metaverse thinking that was gonna, win him fans and money and be the leader in a new virtual world. But that didn't pan out. He panned toward, when he got accused of stealing an election or having Russian influence in the election, he pivoted toward heavy heavy moderation and eliminating all political discourse on Facebook so he can appease, other folks.
With AI became hot, he pivoted on AI and try jumped in on that bandwagon and say look, guess what? We were the biggest open AI project, and you can use your, it's open source, so you can use our system. For him to go back and forth like this, I don't think that's any surprise at all.
And when he sees the tea leaves and seeing what,
Mr.Benja: You know what I just realized? It clicked in my head and we know this news before, but when we say somebody got zucked or, further. Somebody's looking somebody basically taking their technology, refactoring it, putting it out there, just copying basically. And that's, snapchat got sucked when they added stories to instagram and, same thing with a lot of the tick tock reels came tick tock videos became instagram reels kind of thing.
Was going through all this and I was just realizing something. I think Zuck, I was trying to find his motivation. I think his motivation is just to have that big control. The big thing that says, Hey, listen, I made this and I changed humanity with this thing that I made, but he's doing it by copying.
And that's fundamentally. Really difficult to make work like you can be important and popular and all that, you say Steve jobs. I made the iPhone, Elon Musk. I brought electric cars to everybody. Jeff Bezos, hey, I got one click shipping. You say Facebook the like button. It's not that exciting of a concept.
So it's like that, that, that massive change that mark on history. Mark on history. It's just missing for him. And I think that's drives his neuroticism about I think that drives him.
Real Theo Harvey: Good point. There's rumors that he's well, not rumors, but it's known fact that he loves the Roman Empire and read books on how to be an emperor and all this stuff and take over.
Countries. And so it's, it is of a piece, right? That he's trying to determine, what's his mark going to be on the world, which is fine, but it does seem like it, it does seem like it's like all over the place. It doesn't seem to is there for him to determine what he really wants to do.
And that's unfortunate, man. Just be the best who you can be, not try to copy other folks and try to show out a certain style or different things that, So for instance, with the AI stuff, just, they're still called meta. No one has been talking about metaverse and it's still called meta, but now there's a heavy push into AI.
I mean that stupid demo where he was just in his, his avatar just floating around with no legs. What was that about, man? It's just, but check this out. They spent 200, what? They spent billions of dollars on this initiative. They still have billions of dollars more to invest in AI. And I was listening to this podcast about the chief investment officer, JP Morgan.
And he was talking about, it's like these guys, these hyperscalers, right? The Facebooks, the Googles, the the Amazons. Apple, they have so much money. You wouldn't believe this. Yeah. Hyperscaler. So basically these are these high profitability, like basically all the companies that we know and love that have been around forever that, basically delivering our lives.
Amazon we used to, they call them the mag seven now. I don't know why they call it the mag seven. We used to call them fang stocks right back in the day, so it's Facebook or Meta, Amazon, Apple Tesla's in there a little bit. Yeah. Nvidia. And then I think I said Apple already Google.
So those seven stocks, are probably, they say they're work they're 30 percent of our, the stock market. So that's crazy. Just seven stock. The market cap of these seven stocks are worth more than the market cap of the rest of the 493 other stocks in the S& P 500. And that's amazing. So they're called hyperscales because now they have all this profitability.
They're investing so much money into data centers, energy sources, trying to find chips so they can be the on the forefront of this AI revolution. And so the.
Mr.Benja: I'm saying they basically scale up from very small, nothing or just a meager existence and all of a sudden scale and spread to this huge size and market penetration and just ubiquitous nature.
Real Theo Harvey: They can. Yeah, absolutely. To your point, they can just make huge investments into scaling and unprecedented levels. And so that's why I discuss. Unprecedented because think about it. They send never had before have companies been this powerful in American history.
This goes back to the Rockefellers. And and was it Carnegie, right? The guy who created steel basically built New York, the guy, the guy who created standard oil so people can have lights in their homes, these, that, those. This is, we haven't been at this level with these guys since all the way back then.
Mr.Benja: Dude, I gotta research this more, man. Cause I'm, you said Carnegie, the steel guy. And I just realized, yeah Zuck's going to be left out. He's just going to be the Facebook guy. And that's not very impressive.
Real Theo Harvey: Yeah.
Mr.Benja: Yeah. No point. It doesn't sound impressive,
Real Theo Harvey: but still guy. Vanderbilt, the shipping guy.
Yeah. Yeah. JP Morgan, the financier. There's a great shot. I think we talked about this years ago. It was called the men that built America. Great. Great one. Go check it out.
Mr.Benja: Yeah, that led me into the toys the made American all that there's a whole bunch of them.
Real Theo Harvey: Oh yeah. How does they got their shape?
Love it.
Mr.Benja: Yeah.
Real Theo Harvey: So when I'm on podcast like this, I could just throw random facts out.
Mr.Benja: I love it. But no did you, so this community notes thing I actually think that's a good idea. I'm going to, most people are, yelling about it, but I actually think that's a good idea on their part.
If you haven't been over to X, this whole community notes thing is basically voting Wikipedia style system where somebody posts something and people start fact checking it, talking it back and forth. And. You can still have input and you can add in a group of, fact checkers or solid voices like, Hey, this group says this, or this person stated this officially, and that can go into the system, but starting it from the community side, I think is a little, it's going to play out better.
Like it doesn't sound better on paper, having a bunch of clowns comment on something and they decide what's right. And of course. There will be misinformation until stuff gets sorted out problem. But I've had so many problems with Facebook. Like I've got my account accidentally to their point.
They said accidentally banned or suspended or severely reduced twice now. And then they say, Oh, I'm sorry. That was an accident. So if I quote the movie kick ass and they thought that I was trying to kick someone's ass, boom, it's you're done. It's Hey, can we put some community notes behind this guy was just joking.
He's referring to a movie. It's oh, okay.
Real Theo Harvey: Unless your name is Donald Trump. You can say whatever you want. Don't matter. You don't get kicked off. He's kicked off now, I'm sure he'll be back. But nah, like I said, I don't really have opinion per se on it.
Like I said, I'm not on X as much, but it sounds like it. Could be a good thing to fact check and have community do that. So it definitely takes I guess basically they're just outsourcing that cost to To deliver fact checking, right? And it still wasn't effective, right?
These moderators and all that were fact checking things and these content moderation folks, it still was still bad stuff was still getting into the mix, right? When it comes to Facebook and what people saw. I get it, man, but I don't know, man. I don't know if, Facebook It's still there.
Instagram is still there. But do you feel like they still have as much power as they once did? I don't know if they do, man. I think YouTube is starting to, creep up, obviously tick tock if it ever gets banned. We'll talk about that in a second. But I just don't see it as, A driver, like I go on Facebook, I'm still amazed that people still post on there and I guess, and they got, I guess they got a lot of utilization because you still can connect with friends, they have people still talk about Facebook what's shopping, what's it called when you find marketplace
Mr.Benja: And groups are still kicking.
It's there's a lot of basic stuff there that just works and. I like for that reason I communicate with, through you, with you through Facebook and a lot of my, a lot of my close friends. If I want to get my family together, do something, I tell them, Hey, there's a Facebook group and some kids like I'm not on Facebook.
I got a kid. I don't care. Just get on, go to the event page. Say hi to your grandma. Do it. Gosh, come on, man. Quit playing around.
Real Theo Harvey: I love it. I love it. You put on here real quick. Tick tock. Is it going to get banned? You tell me,
Mr.Benja: it looks like it, it's coming more and more. It's coming closer and closer to looking like it's getting banned.
So companies are out there saying, Hey, we're Snapchat. We still exist. And Hey, here's my Instagram handful. I'm seeing a lot more of that. So It looks like it might happen. And I'm saying
Real Theo Harvey: a lot of tick tockers come to YouTube too, to your point.
Mr.Benja: Yeah, you're right. A lot of the shorts are definitely moving over to YouTube shorts.
People are a little upset about it, but it may go away and then forgotten like vine, like everybody swore by vine, then all of a sudden it's like, Oh, I'm not on that anymore. Whatever.
Real Theo Harvey: Yeah. And then remember all the influences, like what's that guy? King Vader. Didn't he come from vine?
Mr.Benja: King batch. Yeah.
Real Theo Harvey: Yeah. King bat. What's it? How you say it? King batch. Has he ever recovered from that?
Mr.Benja: He's not a big, but he's done a few little Netflix side roles. Yeah,
Real Theo Harvey: but he was the biggest thing on vine. So I'm just curious, Mr. Benji, and even in YouTube member, there was like a whole 1.
0. Version of YouTubers that blew up and they just not as prominent anymore. So I'm just wondering, it's just the evolution of influencers that we'll see rotate throughout,
Mr.Benja: And this happens whenever there's a shift. I want to, I was going to say in technology, but there's a shift in the technology methodology, sociology, whatever ology, right?
Whenever there's a shift, all your creatives have to adjust and either stake their claim where they are or. Evolve into the next segment. So you've seen some musicians that are pretty good at that. Like little Wayne was doing that very well for quite a while, where he would come out and people are like, Oh, okay, this is bling.
This is this era of music or whatever. Then things would shift a little bit. And T Pain's been making noise. The new mumble rap has been making noise. And then little Wayne comes out with lollipop and it's like, Oh, okay. Little Wayne made the transition. He moved over into the next segment. So it's definitely possible.
So can people get up and move? I don't know that they understand how we've seen it in music, movies and all these other things, but seeing it happen with influencers is going to be interesting.
Real Theo Harvey: Yeah. I think we have seen it, right? You wasn't what Mr. Beast was around in 1. 0, right? But he was never, he wasn't like at what cutie pie was his name.
Pew, pew, pie, Yeah, he wasn't on that level right back then.
Mr.Benja: Yeah, it's like PewDiePie. He got tired and he didn't want to go to the next thing. He's just still doing this. He's still there still doing his thing, but it's not like he evolved to that next segment. Belle Delphine, she tried to make her move by going to OnlyFans and
then
that didn't quite work out.
So she just, Disappeared so I'm wondering, yeah, even King Bash didn't do it truly successfully. He's big on tick tock. Don't get me wrong. Very big, but. Yeah, it's not like you I don't know.
Real Theo Harvey: Yeah, it's just curious to see what's gonna happen announcing like the podcast to see maybe because that's just my feed right now But you look at someone like Alex Hermosi.
He's just talking here talking business for two hours He did one video on like sales for two and a half hours And it's got 50, 000 views and I was watching to say this is good notes so And he's got 3 million followers and this is wow, it's just, and he's not doing him, he's doing some production work, but it's just him literally sitting in the studio talking no interviews or anything like that.
And this is wow, so it's funny how things that can evolve.
Mr.Benja: Yeah. But like if everything switches over to say threads or blue sky or some metaverse app, some VR app, will you be okay? Metaverse. It's like
Real Theo Harvey: good point. Yeah. Yeah. He might not. Yeah, you're right. I think that's in a, what's the guy that is out there?
Your guy from Twitch. Yeah. Now he's out here at the big guy cause he's streaming all the time and all that. So that's an interesting content creator. Cause that is ongoing. That's nonstop, it's almost like you're in jail to create content. And I don't know how many people are going to follow that mode that I don't, I don't know how long that could, yeah that's a tough mode.
That's a tough grind. What is it? It's a good job. You can have it. I don't think too many people want that type of job where you're sitting in front of a screen for and trying to entertain people for that long.
Mr.Benja: Yeah it's a very bizarre model. And yet you wonder can he switch over into TV comedy, sketch shows of some sort.
Yeah. Some sort of new VR thing, video game thing. I don't know.
Real Theo Harvey: Then, I was listening to his video. I was listening to his interview was Shannon Sharp. He said he did prank shows. Remember he said he did a lot of prank shows back in the day. I didn't know that. You probably know more than me, but so he, and then he pivoted cause he was like tired, he felt that was getting old.
And so he pivoted to more of the streaming model, but Yeah, man. Yeah. Just curious to me, but where is, where's this next phase going to go? When I think about influencers Now that we have people, everybody wants to be influential, man. So I think the next generation is just if you want all time content.
Content that's always on, it's got to be a AI influencer, right? It's got to be someone that can just be there and keep you entertained. And I think the algorithms can get pretty good at keeping our attention for a long time.
Mr.Benja: Oh my gosh, I'm having creative thoughts here, man. And I want an AI influencer.
Just
Real Theo Harvey: Mr. Benji, you can get it with the videos, 3, 000 AI computer. You can make your own.
Mr.Benja: Oh, yeah. A personal super computer. They called it.
Real Theo Harvey: I'm thinking about getting it, Mr. Benji, I've been dabbling a little bit with these AI agent stuff, man. Yeah. Yeah. I think I want it, man. I think I want it.
Cause I think what's happening is people don't trust. These big companies, yes. If you're enterprise go with check open AI's infrastructure or go with, apples, whatever they're building for now apples, but met us version of it, but man, do we really trust these corporations as a personal level, I don't.
And so if I'm going to create a AI that knows me and can help me in my day to day life, I'd rather build a personal computer, from scratch that I trained the model myself, literally almost air gapped get out into the world, man, because I'm telling you, man it's scary times, man, I guarantee they're going to be taking our videos, man.
From years from now, man, and they're going to use it and someone's going to make billions of dollars of what we've been talking about. Yeah. And it'll be hard to tell. Exactly. Cause the AI learned it because just we talked about Zuck, right? The one thing Zuck has done. Did you say, I think I sent you this article about how the court filing says Zuck, only okay.
Training Facebook. AI on pirated books. So I guess there was this site that you can find all these different books that were not available that were not, you had to purchase them, right? They were copyright protected and he trained a model on just reading all these books. And so now that content is, Embedded inside the AI now, and this is creator's content.
That was something that they could have used for purchases or future licensing stuff. So yeah, man, do you really trust Zuck? You Chuck trust these guys with our, your personal information to create you an AI agent.
Mr.Benja: Trust is a strong word cause I really wouldn't, but would I go ahead and do it?
Maybe, when I say maybe all they have to do is put it in a pretty package and at some point along the way, I'll probably go, I should do this for research and the next thing you know, I'm in the mix.
Real Theo Harvey: Yeah, convenience always trumps privacy, man. So it is what it is. Oh, Mr. Benja, anything else, man?
Celebrating 200 Episodes
Real Theo Harvey: This has been a great episode, man. 200 episodes, man. We've been doing this 200 episodes when we started this. Did you think we'd go this long?
Mr.Benja: I hadn't, I had no idea. I was just like, Theo's on some podcast kick. I'm down with it. We can put our conversations together, put them on wax, get it out there to the people.
I don't care. That's what I was saying back then. Now I'm like, this is great. Let's keep going. I love it, man. So
Real Theo Harvey: we're going, we're keeping going guys. We ain't stopping. We ain't stopping. So we're going to keep pushing to the moon as they would say crypto
bros.
Keep huddle. We're going to huddle. But yeah, man, Mr.
Benja, this has been a great episode, man. I enjoyed doing these with you. We're going to, here's to 200, maybe a thousand episodes in the future, man. We're going to get to that Joe Rogan level, man. Hopefully we'll have his number of subscribers at that level. But anyway, guys, thank you for listening.
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Mr. Benja. It's been a pleasure. Peace.
Okay, James, we're gonna do our intro stuff. And throw it in the mix. What you wanna talk about? You wanna stay with the fires, Mr. Benji? Or you got some ideas?
Mr.Benja: No, I definitely wanna stay with the fires. Let me
Real Theo Harvey: Talk, you talk shit about Zep.
Mr.Benja: On a second.
Gotta get a
Just downloading an image right now. I'm gonna use my background. Okay.
So with this intro into the episode it starts up and it's gonna be like, Hey, here's the episode and here's what we talked about. Do you wanna do that kind of conversationally since the podcast is kind of conversation or, or, yeah, that's
fine.
Okay.
That's not the right image piece of shit. How dare you
Real Theo Harvey: think about marketing first. Yeah,
Mr.Benja: I'm sorry.
Real Theo Harvey: Yeah. Thinking about how you want to position it first.
Mr.Benja: All right.
Here we go. And kick it to widescreen. Oh, yeah.
Real Theo Harvey: Widescreen, baby. Ooh. Oh, man.
You gotta get serious. I'm sorry. Make you laugh. From the mountains of Mordor come Mr. Ninja.
Mr.Benja: All right. All right. All right. Yeah. Hey, Theo, man, this was a good podcast. I didn't think I'd be up for it, but this 200th episode really got in some good insights to the fire. Yeah. Yeah. It'll flow. It'll flow. Did you have anything specific you wanted to put in? And you also said before we get began, so I'll make sure I pass that off to you.
Okay.
Yeah, we're ready. Wait, how did we enter this last time?
Real Theo Harvey: Oh, is it? I'm the one that does the intro or do the, no,
Mr.Benja: I thought you were waiting on something.
Real Theo Harvey: Are you ready? I'm waiting for you. Yeah. I'm ready. Okay.
Mr.Benja: James, here we go. Take one
in this episode. I didn't think I was going to be up for doing a podcast. This image behind me is not from the recent fires, but. I wanted to put it up because this podcast, even with all the troubles that we have, putting it together sometimes is awesome. It's fire. Is that appropriate? I'm not sure, but I'm happy to be doing this podcast.
Happy to still be. Able to do the podcast in this situation and I'm here with my man, Theo on episode 200 of show versus business. We did get to talk about the LA fires, how natural disasters affected us in our creation of our work, what we do. And I had a, I don't know, this is an interesting podcast deal, but I think it flowed very well.
How about you?
Real Theo Harvey: Yeah, I think it did 200 episode started on a somber note guys, but definitely we lighten it up That's what we do guys And so if you are affected by the LA fires, you know our hearts and our thoughts go to you in prayers as well We did a little digging put some soul on his grave a little bit.
There's some changes there. So I loved it, Mr. Benja and look guys, I always say this, but if you like what we're talking about, please smash that subscribe button, share it with your friends, comment too, you want to hear comments and let us know we're stuck in a nerve with some of the things that we're talking about here.
Mr. Benja, yeah, it was a great podcast as always with, and I'm glad you're able to do it and pull yourself during this time of kind of upheaval.
Mr.Benja: Yeah and if you do hear any jokes come out of me lighten up because I'm only doing that because I'm stressed and it's heavy out here.
That said we pray for everybody who is affected by these fires. And that said, let's get into it.
Real Theo Harvey: Is that it? All right. Let's see that work for you. All right. Yeah, that's fine. As you want to do it again. It's up to you. Let's see what James does with it. So cool, man. I meant Mr. Ben, just be safe, brother. Please keep me posted. If anything changes, hopefully getting them contained more. And man.
Thanks for doing this, man. I appreciate it. Even though you're dealing with some stuff right there.
Mr.Benja: Yeah. Whole vibe around everywhere around me is just weird right now because no one knows if a fire is going to pop off and little ones have,