Show Vs. Business
Show Vs. Business
SvB E206 The Doge Twins Madness! (Trump and Musk)
In this episode, Theo and Mr. Benja catch up on wild weekly adventures—from freezing Michigan weather and nostalgic gaming to corporate shake-ups like Amazon’s James Bond deal.
Discussions around the Doge twins of Trump and Musk, a couple of Trailer Reactions right at the end and more!
Tune-in on this Fire Episode!
00:00 Introduction and Weekly Catch-Up
00:41 Surviving the Cold in Michigan
03:29 Nostalgia for XCOM UFO Defense
04:35 Cobra Kai and Invincible Discussion
14:35 Amazon Acquires James Bond
19:55 Tech vs. Business Mindsets
30:22 Rockstar Games and Debugging Stories
31:24 Industry Trends: Shipping Broken Games
32:21 Elon Musk and Business Decisions
33:43 The Nature of Pairs in Life
36:14 Mr. Beast: The YouTube Phenomenon
41:49 Mr. Beast's Business Ventures
50:20 Trailer Reactions: The Accountant 2 and Until Dawn
01:01:49 Closing Remarks and Social Media Plugs
YouTube link to this Podcast Episode:
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Introduction and Weekly Catch-Up
Theo Harvey: This is show versus business where pop culture meets pot money for your host, the real Theo Harvey and Mr. Benja. So Mr. Benja, how was your week?
Mr.Benja: Oh man, week was week was good, man. Week was good. You know, I got into kind of this, this mental space where, I don't know if you remember the ex what an ex, uh, One of the X Men movies, I forgot, uh, Apocalypse, the Apocalypse one, where Magneto was just kind of in that bubble and he was just like, I got this, I got this.
That was me this past week, man. People were trying to come in and they were getting bounced out. Bad vibes were coming up and just deflecting. I'm good, man.
Theo Harvey: I love it, man. I love it. Yeah, my week was good.
Cold Weather Adventures in Michigan
Theo Harvey: I was in cold Michigan, freezing my tush off, man, in one degree weather. Have you been in negative one degree weather before, Mr.
Benja?
Mr.Benja: Man, uh, I didn't, I was actually at Michigan State, Michigan State University, uh, for, for a couple years, getting my, my master's degree, and uh, [00:01:00] yeah, I remember it got really cold, and for a period of time, I was just like, nah. I ain't going outside.
Theo Harvey: Nah, son.
Mr.Benja: Exactly. Uh, but it didn't, it didn't, it didn't ever, it didn't ever go negative.
I think only hit like 13, 14 degrees.
Theo Harvey: Oh, wow. Yeah. You, you, you enjoyed it. That was before I guess, global warming or climate change is a real, it was a real thing. That was what? 20 something years ago. Now it's, it's here. It's an effect. Mr. Benja. They even, they said even got below, it got to negative 20. Like a couple of weeks before I got there in Michigan,
Mr.Benja: did you see the pictures of the flooding?
So for those of you who haven't, this was, this was wild to me. So flood breaks out or a water pipe burst or a water main breaks or something. Whole bunch of water just goes everywhere. Flooding the streets. [00:02:00] It's so cold that all of this flood water freezes, which means cars like over the hood of the car, water is just frozen.
It's just ice up to the top of the cars and all the car alarms are going off, but they're muffled under the ice. It was the most bizarre scene I'd ever. Yeah, probably the most bizarre scene I'd ever witnessed on like, you know, just the news or streaming video. Crazy.
Theo Harvey: Yeah, man, it's got so cold out there.
Yeah, all the water had gotten up to the top of the cars and they were just stuck like a frozen lake of cars. Yeah, it was crazy. Um, Yeah. So that's, that's where I spent my week, man. So I'm just, you heard before, as we were prepping for this, uh, call, you heard me coughing a little bit of probably just getting over the shaking off the, the cold coldness, man, the experience last week, that's what you heard.
Mr.Benja: Yeah, man, maybe thing made me want to see more, more [00:03:00] interesting stuff out of, you know, characters like storm from the X Men, you know, just cause a flood. And then all of a sudden make everything freeze. And it's like, how come I've never seen that? Maybe I, maybe it's out there and I don't know.
Theo Harvey: Hey, good point.
You know what? That's, that's a way to think about it, right? How the creative use of X Men powers given by real world examples. I love it. So, uh, yeah, man. So that, that was my week traveling and doing all that.
Nostalgic Gaming Memories
Theo Harvey: I had a chance to, uh, talk to all my coworkers about, uh, X COM UFO defense. Brought back warm memories.
Mr. Benja. Uh, if you don't know the greatest game we've talked about, I think before on this podcast, one of the greatest games of all time, he was a board game aficionado. He liked, uh, what's it? Catan. Is that how you pronounce it? Catan. Catan. And he likes games like that. So, well, look, if you really want a strategy game, go try.
Xcom UFO [00:04:00] defense. And I, I broke it down about how, yeah, you would go to these sites and you create your own people and then you get more technology and they get sharper. You know, you have a sharpshooter that was really good. Then you get a, a person that was able to move things with mind. It was like, awesome.
You get more and more tech. And, uh, I just, I was selling the shit out of it, man. I was just so hyped to talk about it. I haven't talked about it. So I was just like, wow, man, I wanted to go play it so bad.
Great game. Great game. So yeah, man, that, that was kind of my week.
Cobra Kai and Invincible Discussion
Theo Harvey: Um, also got a chance to, uh, finally finished a Cobra Kai. Did you get a chance to, to wrap the series up yet for you?
Mr.Benja: No, no, I haven't wrapped up Cobra Kai yet. Um, I got to swing back around to that one. Uh, that took me, I don't know why, but Cobra Kai takes me a second to get into and embrace.
I don't know. It's just maybe the characters, the flow and everything, but right now it's just not in [00:05:00] my flow, so it'll come back.
Theo Harvey: Well, you know, they did the last. season in three parts and they came out like months, months apart. And so I think a couple of months ago or about a month ago, I watched the first part and second part back to back.
And then when this new part came, the final part came, I think they're like six episodes each for each part. I finally watched it. And it was like. Summed up pretty good, man. I must say they did, they did a good job, man. They, they it's full circle. That's all I'm going to say. Maybe we'll do a review once you watch it yourself, but
Mr.Benja: go check it out.
Invincible was up next, but, um, I might push that to the side and, uh, do Cobra guy.
Theo Harvey: Yeah. You know, invincible is invincible. Missing nothing there.
Mr.Benja: Is that one in parts too, or is that the whole.
Theo Harvey: Yeah, they're going to do the whole one because I think everybody kind of grumbled last time it was in two parts and it's like, never again.
So they, they're, they're going to, um, release it all, uh, for this third season altogether. Uh, did you ever read the [00:06:00] comic books for invincible?
Mr.Benja: No, I haven't.
Theo Harvey: Uh,
Mr.Benja: no, you told me, you told me they were pretty solid.
Theo Harvey: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, um, it's just the Dana, I mean, Mark Wade, if you ever read any of his stuff back in the day, I mean, he goes deep.
It was light. You know, uh, the levels of, you know, what it means to have, you know, be a superhero and love what it means to be a superhero, raising a family, what the moral, uh, the moral, um, issues that come up being a superhero and the choices that need to be made brilliant. So, yeah. So the mood, the TV show.
Pretty much stays true to the comic book. And so, uh, when you watch the TV show, you're like, okay, this is very similar to the comic book in a lot of ways. So, yeah. So anyway, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's there. So, so yeah, man, you got a lot of stuff on your plate, man. You got Cobra Kai, you got invincible and you know, a boy came back.
Oh, Reacher.
Mr.Benja: Okay. I did see a post by a, what's his name? Jason, [00:07:00] uh, P Cargan. I think his name is that guy.
Theo Harvey: Who's that?
Mr.Benja: Oh, there's some guy, this is a writer and he always talks about. Pop culture stuff. And, uh, he was talking about Richard and I'm like, why is he talking about Richard
Theo Harvey: because he's back, baby, good stuff, man.
Mr.Benja: So easy to watch when you're just not thinking about anything.
Theo Harvey: Exactly. It goes down easy. A true story. He actually, he's from Florida, right? Uh, Alan Richardson, the actor, he went to the same high school as Matt gates, the. Terrible, terrible congressman who basically has been accused of some unwanted attention to young minors, basically, and was up for attorney general before he backed out.
But yeah, they've been going back and forth with each other, swiping at each other, man. So you're an asshole, you're this, this and that. It's hilarious.
Mr.Benja: Actors taking swipes at politicians. And, oh yeah.
Theo Harvey: Oh yeah. Um, and what if, you know, if you were on that level and one [00:08:00] of your old high school folks, you know, came at you, Mr.
Benjamin, what would you say? Well,
Mr.Benja: I, I have to turn up the heat, man. It's like, I'm going to, I'm a politician. I'm about to make an example out of you actor. Or if I was the actor, I'd be like, look, man, just cause you put on a suit. Don't mean you about all that. I'd have to either, either way I would go in.
Theo Harvey: Yeah, they're going in, man. So this is. This is where we are now, especially
Mr.Benja: being from florida. You know, you just got to go in florida. I was talking to somebody and I was talking to somebody and they're like, yeah, yeah, you're from florida. So it's kind of okay. And then everybody started chuckling and I'm like, and then I got it.
I was like, oh yeah, you know, I kind of know, let, let go of that weird florida in this. And just kind of was trying to be myself or whatever, but they're like, no, no, you still got it in you. You're weird.
Theo Harvey: They know
they know that's [00:09:00] for sure. Oh man, that's hilarious. So, uh, but yeah, man, it's a interesting time to be alive with anything you watched. That was interesting this week.
Mr.Benja: Nah, man. Uh, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm breaking, I'm doing these journal books and I was trying to fix my reflection process and that's, that's been a big change.
So when I'm doing all that kind of stuff or trying to think on new things, I really new, new materials just kind of affects me funny. So I'm, I'm watching reaction videos now and, you know, walking dead reaction, got a zombie later on. We got a zombie trailer that we're going to react to. So come back for that until dawn.
And, uh, but reaction videos, it's like, Hey, I can kind of rewatch this without just sitting back and rewatching it. It's like, I have somebody sitting there watching it with me and it doesn't disrupt my thoughts too much. So. Right now I'm on the, some MCU rewatches found somebody who really, really liked [00:10:00] Iron Man three.
I was like, huh? Okay.
Theo Harvey: He went deep, huh?
Mr.Benja: Yeah. I was like, okay. I
Theo Harvey: ran through it. It wasn't bad. It was better than Iron Man two. Which ain't saying much.
Mr.Benja: No, no, no. I don't think it was. I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry. You got the dude coming out of the making bathroom jokes, talking about I'm the Mandarin. Don't go in there for 20 minutes.
I'm like, you've got to be, get the H out of here.
Theo Harvey: That buddy cop comedy, man. I love it, man. You know, he was, he was in the air, man. He had Ironman. He was flying all the different Ironman in the sky. I loved it, man. Yeah, man. Uh, pep, uh, pots. Getting the extremists in her and starting the rec shop.
Mr.Benja: Too much nonsense.
Theo Harvey: Better than whip flash. What's that guy? Uh, Mickey Ward coming out at the race car.
Mr.Benja: Hey man, folks, you put them out, you put them in a racing helmet and [00:11:00] give them a toothpick. I'm telling you. I watch that any day over the, the dancing Ironman. They had, they had a dancing troop of Ironman going across the boat.
It's just like, I couldn't do it.
Theo Harvey: Well, well, well, true, true story is, well, the rumor is the kid that shows up in Iron Man 3, that's supposed to be Peter Parker. You know that, right?
Mr.Benja: I did not know that. I know they stuck him in at the end of Endgame, but I didn't know he meant that much.
Theo Harvey: Yeah. Well, yeah, it was like the kid, remember he had the mask on and he had the little phaser on there.
If you saw Iron Man 3 recently. Yeah. I'm surprised the guy didn't talk about that. Yeah.
Mr.Benja: I thought you were talking about the. Wait, you're talking about the, the kid who was in the, in the barn?
Theo Harvey: I think he was in the barn, but he, no, it was the kid that had the mask on. Uh, was it, I think it was in the Okay, that was in two,
Mr.Benja: right?
Theo Harvey: That was in two or three, I can't recall. Two, two. It was two, okay.
Mr.Benja: Yeah. That's the
Theo Harvey: rumor. Yeah,
Mr.Benja: that's the rumor. I see.
Theo Harvey: But we'll, we'll, [00:12:00] we'll digress, Mr. Benja. So MCU deep dive.
Mr.Benja: Okay, so I don't know the actual reviews. Have you ever looked up the reviews for Iron Man two and three?
Theo Harvey: No.
Mr.Benja: 30 seconds. I'm about to do this.
I'm headed over to Rotten Tomatoes, which I don't actually like as a review site, but I'm going to go there anyway for Iron Man two and Iron Man three and let's see. Rotten Tomatoes gives, I'll start with Iron Man 2. How's that? Yeah, I'll start with Iron Man 2. Iron Man 2 got a 72 percent from, from the reviewers and 71 percent from the audience.
So about the same for Iron Man 2. I'll go check Iron Man 3. And we have 79 percent for the reviewers and 78 percent by the people. So, uh, nah, they agree with you. Oh, [00:13:00] they
Theo Harvey: agree with me that Ironman, uh, what three is better. He was better. Oh yeah. Yeah. Just, but not by much though.
Mr.Benja: Yeah, that's a, it was a full arc story.
Theo Harvey: Yeah. It was a full arc story. And, you know, he took the. Arc out, you know, what's the arc reactor out of his chest and it's going to live a happy life now. I guess
Mr.Benja: too much, I'm going to say it too much mumbo jumbo. That's, that's what it was. And that would be, we just talked about this before the show started.
When you start getting too much mumbo jumbo in there, I
Theo Harvey: liked it, man. Guy Pierce, the guy from Memento was in it, right? Uh, Iron Man three. I mean, yes, man, man, man, the Mandarin that was problematic a little bit, but. You know, I'm Trevor,
Mr.Benja: I think that was it. I think there was the switcheroo and, and I think that's what did it for me.
I didn't, I wasn't feeling that too much, [00:14:00] but I digress. Now I'm saying, now I'm saying, now I'm saying your lines.
Pivot.
Theo Harvey: Anyway, man. So what are we talking about today, man? What are we going to get into?
Mr.Benja: Oh, one quick, one quick thing. Uh, you made it, you made an interesting point here. We're talking about, um, we're talking about Amazon and notice we talk about Amazon a little more, more and more over time and you sent me this and I don't want to spend much time here, but Amazon takes over James Bond.
Amazon's Acquisition of James Bond
Mr.Benja: Uh, what's this about?
Theo Harvey: Yeah, man. Um, if you didn't know, James Bond was owned by this family, Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson. Basically, broccoli's father, uh, basically secured a deal to produce a film based on Ian Fleming spy novels in 1961. So they had exclusive rights to this for years. Uh, and, uh, they're, they're, uh, Only distributor was MGM, right.
To [00:15:00] kind of distribute the movies out and put them in theaters. So when Amazon bought the distribution rights with 8. 5 billion acquisition of MGM, they, they had the exclusive right to stream all bond movies. Right, right. But still the broccolis had control of creative control of what. What's going to be that film about, right?
Who's going to be the actor? What's, what's the story, all that. And so for a long time, Amazon and the broccolis have been going back and forth. And it just got to a point where the broccoli said, F it. Amazon, you can have it. And I think they, uh, Amazon bought, I don't know what the number is here. I don't have it in this story here, but I think it was something like a couple of billion dollars to get acts, creative control of bond now.
So they, they spent basically 10 billion to be able to create their own bond movies and send them out. Amazon did. That's crazy. .
Mr.Benja: Do you think that's part of the broccoli's plan?
Theo Harvey: Good point. I don't know. I don't know. More
Mr.Benja: leverage.
Theo Harvey: Yeah. Good point. But it seemed [00:16:00] like they, 'cause they bought this back in 2022, it says, right?
Or 20, was it? Uh, yeah. 2022. 8.5 billion acquisition, MGM. So it was, it wasn't like they weren't. You know, they were trying to work with Amazon probably to broccolis and say, Hey, this is what we want. Maybe Amazon is trying to put deadlines on them. I know creative people don't like deadlines.
Maybe you say, Hey, you know, this. It's a business show versus business deadlines. You know, Amazon's like, we need a bond movie. It's 2022. You know, we spent 8. 5 billion on this. What, what we doing here? And broccoli is like, we're gonna take our time. We got to find new Daniel Craig. We got to find a bond. We got to know what the right story is, all this stuff.
And, and I guess they just got tired of it. And, and I guess, uh, uh, uh, what's his name? Uh, what's the guy who runs, uh, or he used to run Amazon. Uh,
Mr.Benja: Bezos,
Theo Harvey: Bezos prize. Like, you know, damn it. You know, what, what do y'all want? Here's a [00:17:00] check. It just go away. So yeah, man, it's crazy. So now one of the more, probably the first what universe expanding kind of franchises ever 25 movies.
There's ever been, um, is now in control of corporate America. Right. And so we're going to get bond TV shows, bond books, bond movies, bond, uh, experiences at universal studios. It's going to be crazy.
Mr.Benja: Let's see how this works. Uh, all I can think of is the the Disney buying buyout of Star Wars That's that's what came to mind first.
So
Theo Harvey: even though let's be honest George Lucas whored himself out for toys because of the licensing deals. Yeah struck So it is what it is, but bond is you don't really see bond out here hucking Mickey D's, right? Not Happy Meal. You don't see Bond on the cover of Happy Meal, do you?
Mr.Benja: Bond in these streets,
Theo Harvey: you know.[00:18:00]
So that's because they kept tight control of it. But now that it's in the hands, they just spent 8. 5 billion. So they got at least make that a year. To make it worth while they're wild. So they're going to find all kinds of ways. I guarantee they're going to bring back jaws. You know, they're going to say, okay, who are the characters?
Not just, we're going to bring back bond, but who other characters can bring back? They're going to be right. Jaws. They're going to bring back a doctor. No. Octopussy. You know, that's, that's something that's going to be wrong to say now, but they're going to bring her back. Watch
Mr.Benja: with all the, with all the, uh, But the way things are going now, I, you might need more over the top characters and put out there as more over the top.
So what was that guy with the, you know, like the diamond or the, the minerals in his face when they had the explosion? Oh
Theo Harvey: yeah. I forgot him. Yeah. I forgot him. But I know everybody
Mr.Benja: thought like that's a little. That was going a little too wild. And I'm like, nah, I think that might be all we get from now on.
If a
Theo Harvey: good point, you're [00:19:00] right. Cause when Daniel Craig took it over, it was a little bit more grounded. Remember they weren't out there with a lot of stuff, but now, you know, but back in the eighties with Roger Moore, that's my bond, right? You remember those days that they were out there, man, he was going to space.
Yeah, but he was out there in space. He was thinking, I mean, and you know, and bond don't get, he don't, he don't, he, he'd take it from any girl, man. He don't care where she from. So anyway, man, this is, this is a wild man. They go, they're going to make it. Yeah. That is going to be crazy. How much bond we're going to get over the next couple of years.
So anyway, this is, this is one of the last biggest IPS that, you know, people are kind of looking for, and now we know, uh, it's in the hands of corporate America.
Mr.Benja: Broccoli got cooked.
All right. So, uh, this is an interesting one.
Tech vs. Social Business Dynamics
Mr.Benja: Um, so I was just talking with some people [00:20:00] and I realized there was a big disconnect between the tech types. And I'm going to generally say the, uh, the tech logical types and then the social business types, maybe, maybe that's a good delineation, but I was talking about this with some people and I was like, yeah, you know, a tech person will just go do something.
And it's not about how anyone feels. They're just like, I want to see how this works. Uh, let's see if we can get it faster. If there's something that we can do to, you know, cut out a little. Extra work or cut out some pain points, you know, let's try this blah blah. It's very Let's just do this and there's not as much emotion involved So, you know, whatever but then they were like that doesn't make any sense.
Why wouldn't you see what people, you know are feeling? why wouldn't you you know try to make the case [00:21:00] for where do we want to go as a people or group and Because I come from, I come, you know, I was born in New Orleans, a lot of my family, they're very social types or whatever. And I was the one who broke off and did the tech thing, weird creative thing.
So I kind of see that side, but I was realizing a lot of people don't, don't see it. So when they look at somebody like, Elon and Trump, they kind of don't see how Elon is doing his thing or why he's doing his thing. I'm not saying it's right or anything. I'm not putting any value judgment on it. I'm just like, Oh yeah.
Uh, you know, come in and, you know, start breaking things and move fast and break things. That kind of ideology. That's. Totally a tech guy thing. I, I see what he's doing, but then a lot of people don't. And I don't know, maybe you've noticed this in conversations, people just really confused on how somebody who's logic tech minded is thinking.[00:22:00]
Theo Harvey: Yeah. I mean, So high level, you know, I kind of think that this is always the case. Um, you kind of need both sides of the equation to kind of, uh, make any kind of enterprise work, um, because I think the biz side and the creative side, they kind of are like. Two sides of the coin, right? Same coin. I was talking to someone the other day, right?
She was an artist. It was funny. She's going to join our team. And I was just talking to her about what artists, the best way to be creative is to have constraints. Right. And so if you don't have constraints, then how can you be creative? Because then you just like, you'll never. There'll be never be in zone to reach, right?
No, no goal is to reach. And so I think the business side creates those constraints that the creative types need and create and the business needs the creative side to kind of think outside. Well, think outside the box, right? It's like, Hey, it doesn't have to just be a square. You know, it [00:23:00] could be a Pentagon.
It could be this way, right? Have you thought differently from a different angle and you're like, Hmm, because that's the differentiator that's going to help you. Game market share long term. So when I think about business and I think about creative types, I think that they're, they're so necessary on both sides, because if you don't have one or the other, then it usually fails.
Right. I mean, if the creative person is too creative, you know. Tends to not, it tends to pan out. I mean, even folks that you think were solo, I guarantee you, they had somebody that was behind the scenes that was.
Mr.Benja: Andre 3000
Theo Harvey: left to it,
Mr.Benja: left to his own devices.
Theo Harvey: Well, there you go over here doing flute. Yeah, fluting over here, man, learned to flute just to do it, man.
I mean, which is fine, but, uh, I mean, is, is that kind of getting at what you're, you're kind of hinting at just like the need for these type of pairs in general, or just what are your thoughts on that?
Mr.Benja: Yeah, it's just, it's just always been a funny thing to me. And, [00:24:00] uh, you know, even back to, you know, me and you, we were talking about being raw or being in the mix and it's like, it was, uh, it was hard for.
It's hard for people to do both at the same time. And. You either have, you sometimes, sometimes you get one person that's, that's kind of good at flip flopping, you know, both sides, but for the most part, they usually lean on somebody else. Um, you know, with, with Facebook, you have, uh, Zuckerberg, uh, and, and Parker.
And in Napster, you even had another programmer, uh, Sean Fanning and Sean Parker. Apple, you had Jobs and Wozniak. Microsoft, you had Gates and Balmer. Um, In this awesome podcast, you have Harvey, and you have Johnson, so it's badass that way. And, uh, yeah, I was just, I was just noticing, and I'm wondering if in popular society or, or wherever, [00:25:00] if these, if, if we can start understanding ourselves a little better in this sense, I think, I think we could just do better in general, because I think right now, a lot of these People without pairs are fighting each other, but I'm just throwing stuff out there.
I don't know
Theo Harvey: who that's deep without pairs are fighting each other That's a good point because they're not looking at it from that pair standpoint. No, you know, I never thought of it like that It's like once you find your pair, it does make the job easier, right? Because you can just you do what you do best And that usually helps you be more successful.
And the other person does what they do best. Right. And, um, I've always believed that even, uh, any, any venture I started always had somebody else nearby, you know, whether you or, uh, my, my co my co founder, uh, mean or other, you know, other little small things here and there, or just being like, Hey, let's do it together because number one is funner together.
But they say, if you want to go, uh, you want to go fast, go alone. You want to go far, go together. [00:26:00] Yeah. And so, um, You know, it's just, to me, that's always a better path. Cause you know, you have someone that understands that aspect. The challenge is you got to realize that they're in their lane and you're in your lane and you can't cross the streams.
Right. When you cry across the streams, then you get in trouble. You're like, well, you should be doing this. He's like, well, I don't know. I'm not creative, right? You know, and vice versa. Well, you should be why you can't do this. Well, do you really understand that all that goes into this? No, you don't. So, you know, and so you just can't take it personal when you kind of come to those things.
But once people realize and you have some success, I think people realize, you know, they know what they're doing. I just trust them and leave it alone. So
Mr.Benja: I know you said trust is a good word. And, uh. It was a while back, and I brought something up to you, and you were just like, Mmm, I don't know. And, your hesitation wasn't from the creative end, it was just like, I could [00:27:00] see you just kind of running numbers, just like, Mmm, I don't know about that one.
And I was like, God damn it. Had to go back to the drawing board, and I don't think, you don't even, you weren't even like that concerned with it, but I just kind of stopped the conversation right there, I'm like, You know what? I trust this guy's, this guy's angle. Let me go back, redo some things. Think about it.
It's good stuff, man.
Theo Harvey: No, appreciate it, man. And vice versa. There's some stuff you made, like I would never know about from a creative standpoint, like I never thought about that that way, you know, just because, you know, just like the earlier is called how you thought about. The freezing in the, in the ice lake in Detroit and how that can relate to X Men power storms.
Like who comes up with that? I was like, yeah, that, that is a more creative use of power. Put that, put that in the notes. So, um, but yeah, I mean, um, there's tons of [00:28:00] other folks on here. I. You know, I think you wrote a few here, man. I just thought of one, uh, while we were talking, uh, DC entertainment, you got James gun and Peter's Sarah, uh, uh, suffering, you don't even hear about suffering, but he's the business guy, you know, James guns out here, run his mouth, showing up in commercials, you know, animate himself in cartoons, but.
He's got a business guy with him, right? And so I think that's always the case. Um, even, um, who is it? Uh, yeah, just tons of folks, man. When you kind of dig deep into it. Um, Kathleen Kennedy, she helped, uh, Steven Spielberg back in the day, right? That's the one that took over, uh, George Lucas. Excuse me. She helped George Lucas back in the day.
So that's, you know, took over George Lucas's, uh, you know, Star Wars, which To, to be, to your point, maybe why Star Wars is failing because we don't have a creative direction
because we only have a business minded person. And so what happens with business minded people, right? If it don't work, [00:29:00] Oh God, change everything. Right. That second one sucked. Oh no, let's change up. Let's bring back Apple team. Hurry up. No.
Mr.Benja: Or, or
Theo Harvey: let's do, uh, Mandalorian Groku. Cause that's the only thing in Star Wars that's working. Right. That's a business, that's a business decision. Let's be honest.
Mr.Benja: Yeah. No, it's a, it's funny though. And, um, like we were talking about, uh, as I said, this whole thought process got me started when people were asking about, uh, you know, Trump and Elon, I'm, I'm wondering if either of them realize the power of their combination.
Together. Because, uh, I was just looking at, looking at how he's going about things, uh, how Elon is going about things with doge. And it's like, when he cut off like the USA and everybody started screaming, Hey, you can't do that. And it's, you know, you're gonna. I mean, there, there are [00:30:00] problems within all the, within these chains of, you know, supplies, money, support, where all this stuff is going.
There are definite problems there. Um, but you know, do you just walk in there and just like pull the plug and, you know, see what happens. That's a, that's a lead programmer type kind of thing to do. And I remember back at rockstar.
Rockstar Games and Debugging Stories
Mr.Benja: I remember back at Rockstar one time, I was working on a section and I was like, you know what, there is no good way to really figure out how to do this unless I introduce this bug and find out where it breaks and how it breaks and who it affects, like screw it, you know, and I'm thinking, you know, this is a, it's, it's a piece of software.
About, you know, some cowboys in a fake digital landscape. I'm like, whatever, you know, some I'll get yelled at. And I put it in the game, checked it in and then just came back to [00:31:00] my desk and kind of tootled my fingers and just waited. And then like a couple minutes later, someone's like, uh, what the hell is going on in this part of the game?
And hey, what is this? And I was like, really, that's happening over there. OK, now we can fix that. And, you know, I kind of messed up other people's workflow. But I was able to find out what broke and everything very quickly. And I was able to get to it and we fixed it and everything was happy.
Industry Trends: Shipping Broken Games
Mr.Benja: And other programmers and developers do this too.
They just put stuff in the game that doesn't work. In fact, it's gotten so bad in the industry. Now people ship broken parts of the game and they figure that, you know what? The game is broken in these areas and it will crash or it will do this. We figure by the time you find it, we'll have made a patch.
So they send out broken versions of the game and then you sit down to play it. And it's like updating it with the patch, like patch. I just got this game. It's like, Hey, we're going to update another one later. Cause there's stuff in there that you won't find until a [00:32:00] week from now or whatever.
Theo Harvey: That sounds like a business decision too, though.
It's like, you know, that sounds like a business, you know, decisions like, Hey, we're going, we're going to make this deadline for shipment. But if you guys feel like this is so far out. Then, yeah, let's just ship it out. People won't find this bug until weeks, months later. That's fine. But going back to your original thought, yeah, I agree.
Elon Musk and Business Decisions
Theo Harvey: I mean, you know, Elon Musk talks about first principles, right? It's like, how do you get down to the core issue? What's what's driving costs. And also they went to low hanging fruit, right? Let's be honest, USAID, you know, it was really about foreign support. And so when people. And that's only what? 0. 01 percent of the U.
S. Budget. So they figure if they do that, see how much pain and structure that cause and they could get away with it. Then he's like, Hey, look, we've done something and you know, it didn't really affect anything too, too much. Right. You know? So I think it was a political ploy, but yeah, I mean, you know, I agree.
It's like, you know, strip everything down to see what happens, you know, and that's kind of [00:33:00] what he's doing. Um, yeah. But you're right. You saw the, do you see the press conference with, uh, Elon Musk's kid and Donald. Donald Trump sitting there looking bored.
Mr.Benja: Yeah. Just
Theo Harvey: like, whatever he's a nerd. He's going to do his nerd stuff.
I don't care.
Mr.Benja: Yeah. And, uh, again, him being on the social side, not that you, not that it's likable or anything, but a couple of days later, we see him out there like throwing threats at people. And I'm like, I'm like, okay, this is that, this is that showmanship kind of side of things. I'm like, this is, this is all very, very interesting.
The Nature of Pairs in Life
Mr.Benja: Where do we get these pairs from? So, yeah,
Theo Harvey: well, I mean, I think it's just naturally occurring peers, just like, uh, protons, electrons, right. It's just, they kind of have, they're each side is the opposite. You know, side to it, just like in nature. So I think there's human nature is the [00:34:00] same way. You need two sides of this, uh, of the same coin, just like a cop and a criminal, right?
They're both, they're probably the same person because why think about it? The cop, why'd you become a cop? Cause you probably knew a lot of criminals or, you know, you were tired of criminals. And why'd you become a criminal? Cause you found ways around the law. So you knew the law well enough to get around certain things.
So it's, it's always two sides of the coin and a lot of cops know a lot of criminals, right? They got CIs, criminal informants, a lot of, you know, so it's, it's funny, man. You need these pairs. They're naturally occurring in nature and in human nature.
Mr.Benja: Yes. Oh, I just, my mind just jumped back to lethal weapon, but then I actually went back to my parents who became such a pair that like, you know, at certain times of the day, you know, my dad would just get up and start, [00:35:00] you know, doing stuff.
I'm like, why are you doing that? Well, you know, your mom's going to be hungry and want this and that and that. And I'm like. You talked about, you know, she usually it's like, no, no, just trust me. And then my mom came in the kitchen and they just, I S I swear, they got to a point where they didn't understand that they were, you know, this one unit.
You know what I mean?
Theo Harvey: And
Mr.Benja: it's like, they just didn't get that. They were relying on each other for certain things like, You know, if something comes on TV, you know, my dad is the first one to respond and say, well, that looks like this. And then my mom would come in after him and say, if she'd adjust and just weird things.
Like if, if dad didn't say anything about it, I'm not going to jump in. And it's like, huh, it just, it just doesn't exist for mom anymore. It doesn't dad does this part and vice versa.
Theo Harvey: Yeah. I love it.
Mr.Benja: Pairs.
Theo Harvey: I love it, man. Mr. [00:36:00] Benjamin, you know, who is not a pair. We're going to get into it.
Mr.Benja: Well, yeah, yeah. This, this guy, what's his name?
Jimmy,
Theo Harvey: Jimmy,
Mr. Beast: The YouTube Phenomenon
Theo Harvey: AKA Mr. Beast. Uh, did a long form interview with diarrhea, with CEO, uh, YouTube. Uh, I forgot the guy who does this YouTube, but, uh, it was pretty lengthy, man. Um, and the top line caught me. Um, and I said that to you, uh, basically, uh, he said, let me, let me get the right quote, Mr. Benji, cause I want to make sure I say it right.
He said, uh, let's see here. He said, if you want to be liked, don't help people.
Mr.Benja: Damn.
Theo Harvey: So, uh, Mr. Benja, you, you listened to the whole, uh, YouTube interview. So what pieces do you want to [00:37:00] focus in on what he talked about? High level,
Mr.Benja: this guy, Mr. Beast, first of all, this guy, Mr. Beast is a really interesting. Um, he's got people behind him that are doing things behind the scenes.
He's known him since high school or whatever. So I'm not sure exactly how his, his pairings work, but he's got tech people and numbers people behind him. But yeah, this guy is so focused on his craft. I think we're moving away from the media bro era and we're getting into the, I mean, moving away from tech bro era and we're moving into the media bro era.
We talked about his fake smile, right? And you know how it just, it looks almost intentionally fake. I mean, it's got this just persona, but then when you get into them with this interview, I had listened to the whole thing. And I almost went back and listened to parts of it twice, but this [00:38:00] guy is. Such a, I don't want to, I don't want to call it a force, but he's just on some other ish man, where he's like watching the numbers and ways that nobody else is doing.
He's, he's putting, he's risking more than everybody else is doing, you know, um, and as, as cheerful and happy as he seems. You know, dude is a beast. He's like, he'll, he'll really get out there and go after stuff with this kind of passion and vigor that I haven't seen before out of almost anybody with such a public presence.
He doesn't seem like a nice guy, but he does seem like a nice guy. Like it's kind of this, this weird fake persona, but it's not fake. I don't know how to explain it. Um,
Theo Harvey: Yeah. I mean, you know, um, some of the stuff I saw, I didn't know he had Crohn's [00:39:00] disease, which is this kind of like, um, intestinal kind of disease that affects people.
And so I think maybe in his younger days, you know, he didn't really get out there as much to do different things, but I guess he just really stuck to internet culture pretty fast. Right. I didn't, I didn't listen to the whole interview, but I just noticed from it, it was what he was really more of a mind Minecraft.
Streamer, if you will, back in the day, but that was going to be his path to glory, I guess. Right. And so, uh, yeah, man, to your point, the obsessiveness he takes to kind of get to this next level when it comes to be a YouTuber and what that means is just like, yeah, we haven't seen this in like, I mean, but look, man, successfully as clues, man, all the greats, man.
I mean, yeah. Whether you think Mr. Beast is a great or not, they all have the same kind of traits. If you look at sports, you know, they say the same things, Kobe, Tom Brady, they say the same things, man. It's just, there's something different about them. The level they go to [00:40:00] that you can't even comprehend because you know, you're usually, I'm doing well.
Nah, there's a whole nother level up here that you can't even comprehend yet. And that's what excites me is like, wow, that level of me, you know, he, for years, like you said, he slept in one room, you know, with, you know, uh, I read this before, I don't know if it was an interview, but like back in the day he would, he would do it for like 24 hours straight, you know, looking at the YouTube, changing thumbnails, seeing which one worked him and his buddies would, um, you know, share ideas and then.
Experiment with them constantly to kind of find out what works. I mean, let's be honest. We're all probably just emulating what he's doing, right? And trying to, uh, follow him. And then because he has so many followers, probably the algorithm is probably being, uh, Jerry rigged toward his direction a little bit more, right?
At this point. So it's, you
Mr.Benja: mean, you mean like because he does it, the algorithm kind of shifts his way.
Theo Harvey: I mean, I mean, [00:41:00] you know, I mean, I don't know if he's, you know, he's not, he's getting, he's getting billions of views, but I mean, you know, it was his trillion views out there, so it might not be a lot, but it's enough there to kind of make it weighted.
Right. I mean, if you look at it, so I think there could be some way to kind of, uh, you know, Jerry. That he's shifting what the algorithm accepts as, um, something that's going to grow your account. And that's the one they'd say, okay, this is what we're going to push out more. Right. Based on what people are viewing.
So thumbnails, right. All the thumbnails are looking like his, let's be honest.
Mr.Benja: Yeah. Um, well, it's interesting as a, you know, ever since his YouTube show, he's done.
Theo Harvey: You mean, you mean the VH ones? I mean, the, uh, prime show. No,
Mr.Benja: no, no. I mean, no, he's done YouTube all this time. And since that he's had two big breakouts that I'm seeing, um, his Amazon show, uh, beast games and, you know, his, his snack thing, you [00:42:00] know, which is the feastables and between the two of those in this interview, he was talking about them between the two of those.
He was like, holy crap. There's all this other business world out there for me to conquer, you know, it's like, Hey, going outside of media. All of a sudden I'm talking with Amazon and now there are all these partner deals that are showing up outside of YouTube. And he's like, Oh my God, I could take all this over.
And then he starts looking at the, the, the business side of things. And he was, he actually talked about the fact that he realized that with YouTube, it was. Him being on camera, him doing things all the time. And then once he started realizing that, Hey, he could do this feasible thing and he could kind of wind it up and set it in motion and then it could go off by itself.
He was like, Holy crap. That's another level of exponential action I can get into. And he, he started, he broke down how [00:43:00] he was really. Going deep on like packaging the, where the chocolate was being sourced from, how it was being made, how many break points are in a bar, you know, like the little, how they put the little preparation so you can break it in certain pieces.
He's like, no, no, the same
Theo Harvey: obsessiveness he brought to thumbnails, right? He's bringing to chocolate. Is that what you're telling me? Yes.
Mr.Benja: And it was, it's, it's rather, it's rather fascinating and kind of, kind of sad in some points, but
Theo Harvey: well, I mean, he's not doing anything with any celebrity has done. I mean, think about, uh, George Clooney and Caso Migos or the one person we should never be named, uh, P Diddy, uh, you know, with, uh, Right.
I mean, they created a brand of liquor or brand of some product and that, that, that can be a billion, you know, million, multimillion dollar brand and they get money from that. So, I mean, he's not, that's what celebrities have been doing for years. Right. I mean, look at Rihanna. She doesn't even do any music anymore.
She just has her old, [00:44:00] uh, lingerie line now. So,
Mr.Benja: yeah, uh, that's another case study. We should look at it someday. What, uh, what Rihanna is up to. Because I think that's interesting.
Theo Harvey: Definitely not music,
Mr.Benja: right? Yeah. Uh, her music's become an advertisement, you know, same thing with the, let's say a lot for a lot of musicians.
Theo Harvey: Yeah. At this point. Yeah. Or even in basketball, man, you'd be surprised. A lot of these basketball guys, man, they all got production deals. They got other stuff for the project. They're their basketball is like a side project. Let's be honest. That's their side job. They were getting added. Uh, uh, what's his name?
Um, Uh, George, uh, Dan, what's his last name? But anyway, he, uh, he's a basketball player. I'm drawing a blank right now. They get mad because he has a great podcast. Sports guys have their own podcast now. Right. And it's, they were getting mad at him cause he's not playing well in the NBA. And he said, you know, that's because basketball is his side job.
So it's, you know, I [00:45:00] think that's what we're seeing. Paul George, that's the guy's name. And so, um, so yeah, I think a lot of these folks are realizing that, uh, there may, the thing that puts them on a platform can help them build products that can be sold without them present. Right. Kind of like Kylie Jenner.
Right. Who created, uh, you know, her line of clothing and all that to make billion dollars. So yeah, Mr. Beast is. Just following that playbook.
Mr.Benja: Yeah. Um, yeah, it's, it's a, it's a fascinating interview if you listen to it. And, uh, and I mean, he's following the playbook definitely, but he's a unique version of it where most, most people I hear when they're talking about a certain brand direction or certain something they're getting into, they're a little more connected to the.
The product or the thing, you know, like you talk about, uh, you know, Kanye West or whatever, he's like, yeah, you know, when I grew up in [00:46:00] fashion and clothing, I was always touched by this and that or you talk with, um, you know, Rihanna, same thing with her fashions and stuff. Um, Yeah. And any of these characters, they're always talking about how they had some connection to the product.
Mr. Beast is just like, Hey, um, I saw these numbers. I think these numbers could be better. So I spent four months doing nothing but reading up on how numbers get generated. You know, I went to all the markets, supermarkets and measured the, you know, measured the candy bar aisle lengths. And it's like, what?
So it almost seems like it doesn't matter what it is. He's just going to get in there and be obsessive about it. Um, in fact, he had this quote that's going around this. That's causing everybody a lot of conversation. What do you say? He said, um, they were at, they were talking about his mental health and, you know, how it is being stressed with all these things.
And he was like, yeah, you know, I've worked [00:47:00] really hard and there's definitely times where I would cry, you know, but if my mental, but if my mental health was a priority, I wouldn't be as successful as I am.
Theo Harvey: Boom. There it is.
Mr.Benja: And he, it's not like he was sad about that. He's just like. No, that's how it's got to be.
Numbers, baby. Give them to me. And I was like It's I'm telling you, it's a fascinating interview.
Theo Harvey: I mean, people talk about balance, but can you really be,
can you really be balanced, you know, when you're trying to, sometimes you have to be in balance. I mean, that's what I'm realizing sometimes, sometimes it's in times of your life where you have to be in balance and this is the time that he's choosing to be imbalanced. Right. I mean, something's driving him bigger.
Right. Then the numbers. I don't, yeah, I don't know what that is. That's always a challenge for me. It's like, you know, I was, me and my son listened to Kobe all the time. He, you know, he would do crazy things like still play basketball when he had the ACL tear. Right. [00:48:00] That's like the most painful thing you can do.
And you just like, he's like, well, you know, the way I look at it is like this, he's like, you know, if your family, he, You got an AC air tail and you're sitting in the couch downstairs and there's a fire upstairs with your family. The ACL ain't going to hurt no more because you're going to run up there and save them.
He said, likewise, the basketball has to be so much more important than the pain in your leg. And when you get to that point, that's when you don't feel that pain. And I was like, wow, that's. So that's kind of the level that Mr. Beast fills these numbers, right? It's like as if his family was about to burn up and he has to go save them.
And, and I think once you get, I think, and that's the level that is hard to get to. I can, I can, as a person who has a family where I can see that I could definitely, I'm going to do whatever it takes to save them. Right. If I'm hurt, whatever, but. Now a basketball, my business, can it be on that level where I'm like, I'll do whatever it takes.
That's what these guys are at. And then when you realize that, then you like, Oh, [00:49:00] this is another level.
Mr.Benja: What was his name? Uh, Ronnie lot with the finger. Yeah. That's the classic example. Um, how did, how did it happen again really quick?
Theo Harvey: Well, I mean, I just know that he broke his finger in the middle of the game and just said, cut it off.
Mr.Benja: Okay. Yeah. Um, In the middle of a game, game was really important. Ronnie Lott player for the, uh, 49ers,
Theo Harvey: 49ers. Yeah.
Mr.Benja: 49ers at the time, just to make sure he had the tip of his left pinky finger amputated after the 1985 season when it was crushed while tackling running back, Timmy Newsome. And he was like, Hey, I got to finish this game.
I got to keep doing the thing. Let's go
Theo Harvey: cut it, cut it. You need to cut it. You need to cut it.
Mr.Benja: All right. [00:50:00] I love it.
Theo Harvey: Yeah, go check it out. So we recommend listen to that Mr. Beast video and definitely if you watch it, give us some comments. What you think about. His, his take when it comes to a business and obsession around business,
Mr.Benja: toxic productivity, or just what you got to do.
All right, we got some trailers, don't we?
Theo Harvey: Yeah, let's get into it.
Mr.Benja: All right, so we got two trailers here today.
The Accountant 2 Trailer Reaction
Mr.Benja: Um, one is the Accountant 2 with Ben Affleck, and the other one is a video game to live action move for Until Dawn. So we'll get started with the Accountant 2. Theo, this is the Accountant 2 with Ben Affleck, and I've seen the Accountant.
I didn't think much of it, but I was like, eh, Ben Affleck, I need to sit down and watch a boring movie with the guy in the suit. It actually turned out to be pretty good. And you haven't seen The Accountant yet.
Theo Harvey: I have not. I might go see it now, [00:51:00] based on your recommendation.
Mr.Benja: I think it's good. I don't know that it's I don't know that there's anything worth spoiling in it.
It's just, you know, what it is. Um, once you know the premise for the movie, you're like, okay. And it's just kind of a movie. So this is why I'm okay with you watching the trailer for The Accountant 2 and not worrying about the first part and we'll see what happens. Um, did you got any questions about this?
Anything to say?
Theo Harvey: No, Ben Affleck counting numbers, right?
Mr.Benja: Yeah, something like that. All right. So this, so I got a cute up here. This is our trailer reaction. Never before seen a trailer reaction to The Accountant 2 by with, uh, Ben Affleck and we'll start playing in 3, 2, 1 play.
Theo Harvey: Yes. Oh, dang. You got hype?
Mr.Benja: I'm laughing because I'm seeing, uh, the bat I'm seeing Batman and the [00:52:00] Punisher on the same screen like this.
Theo Harvey: Good point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, and low key, the actress that plays their liaison, she, she was in Bastar Galactica, so there you go.
Mr.Benja: That's right.
Theo Harvey: all genre. Folks, uh, is he someone on the spectrum?
Is that that's that was known from the first movie?
Mr.Benja: Yes. Yes. That's not a funny person.
Theo Harvey: Okay. Yeah. So he's playing someone like that, which is fine. Was his brother in the first movie too? Yes. Okay. Okay. So they, they gonna do what they do.
Mr.Benja: Yeah, man. Uh, so it's, yeah, as I said, it didn't seem like anything like, you know, spoil worthiest.
So I was like, and it didn't really do anything. It was just like, yeah, that's just what they do.
Theo Harvey: Yeah. Just what you do. You just, I'm S I'm sorry. JK Simmons. He didn't last long. You know, he's a good time at Academy award winning actor. He got killed in the first minute of the trailer.
Mr.Benja: Yeah. So there's that,
Theo Harvey: he said, find that account.
I'm dead, but
Mr.Benja: [00:53:00] give me a pin ballpoint.
Theo Harvey: That's hard, boy. You going out, man, you're going to go out. Like a, like a, like a true G get, get, get the big monster. Um, make sure my
Mr.Benja: numbers are up to date. Got to find the accountant.
Theo Harvey: Yeah. Uh, are you excited? It sounded like you're excited to see this.
Mr.Benja: I'm excited just because it's such a, it's not, as I said, it wasn't like a groundbreaking movie, but it was just one of those.
I could turn on and from start to finish, be like movie. Good. Let's go.
Theo Harvey: Popcorn movie.
Mr.Benja: Uh, yes. With the, with a little bit of thinking. Just, just enough to sprinkle it on top and be like, Hmm,
Theo Harvey: made me think
Mr.Benja: maybe,
Theo Harvey: maybe do some math in my head, the math, don't be maffin.
Mr.Benja: Exactly. In fact, you might, you might like that part.
Theo Harvey: Okay. Yeah. We'll see. Well, I'll check it out, man. I have, I might have to watch the [00:54:00] first one again. So, or first one. At all. 'cause I haven't seen it before, but, uh, yeah. Interesting. I mean, you, it's just of a piece, man. These, all these actors are in their fifties now, sixties, seventies, eighties, all that's all they do now, just action films.
It is like, okay, , they got Harrison Ford, , you know, don't look like an old man to you. Throwing folks around like,
Mr.Benja: okay, . Yeah, we, we thought they tried to bury this when they did the expendables, but it just made it worse.
Theo Harvey: Oh man, sure did. But yeah, I never thought of it. Batman and the Punisher. I love it.
That's, that's, that's what we should call this. James, put that out there. Batman Punisher. Okay.
Until Dawn Movie Trailer Reaction
Mr.Benja: So we have another trailer for you today. This one. Um, [00:55:00] I couldn't remember why until dawn was important to me and, um, I was like live action zombie movie. Okay. I'm into zombies right now. Live action movie, whatever.
Oh, right. It's from the video game. I don't know why that slipped my mind, so I wanted to throw this one in there. Um, I have no idea how this one's going to play out. It came out last week, but we did, it totally went past our radar. Um, but Until Dawn, new movie trailer, reaction. Theo, do you know anything about the game or care about zombie movies?
Theo Harvey: And I don't think anything's been told different except, um, when they start running fast, that's pretty much it. Now, uh, they have a movie coming out. I think it was, uh, 20, 28 days later and 28 years later or something than the movie coming out. So I haven't seen anything new done with zombies in a minute, but I could be surprised.
Mr.Benja: Okay. Um, actually, I don't know how until dawn treats the zombies. So I just know it's, it's from the video game, so [00:56:00] we'll see right now. So this is the until dawn new movie trailer from Sony pictures, and we're going to start it in three, two, one play.
Theo Harvey: Know what? I have seen this before. I know what the premise is, but I didn't see this trailer. Are you excited that? Laughter of glee or that laughter of credulous.
Mr.Benja: I'm going to have to call up some people I normally don't talk to, um, find the proper stimulants and, uh, substances and maybe a group of friends to watch this with, because this seems like a romp and, uh, Yeah.
Um, you know, it's one of those movies that I I'll go into watch because I really like some of the ideas that it presents. Um, and no, I think it'll be a [00:57:00] fun time, man. I like this concept. Uh, every, I mean, Groundhog Day, but with like, I'm dying again every time and get freaked out, man.
Theo Harvey: That's traumatizing.
But, but the thing is they done this before there was another movie. Happy death day. They did the same thing. A girl, she relived her death, but it was from one killer though. But still, um, some other movies. I didn't know that's what that was
Mr.Benja: about.
Theo Harvey: Yeah, it was like over and over again and she had to figure out the pattern so she wouldn't keep dying.
Um, I think someone else did it too. I can't remember, but so, you know, so the concept is nothing new. And then also the fact that all these different things are killing them. That reminds me of Cabin in the Woods. I don't know if you remember that movie with Chris Hemsworth in it. So basically, um, there were the Cabin in the Woods and all these creatures from horror film lore got out and killed everybody.
Right. And so that was kind of got out. Yeah. They
Mr.Benja: lose
Theo Harvey: dog. Did you see that movie? Yeah, go check it out. [00:58:00] But, uh, yeah, they did get loose and it was hilarious. So anyway, make a long story short. Uh, yeah, the premise seems interesting, but it's like, you gotta really care for these people to, to see them die over and over again.
And, uh, you know, so I don't know if you care enough. It's weird. I don't know. It's like, do you just want to see them or maybe they're just all assholes and you want to see them die over and over again. So, I don't know. It's kind of like, uh, Tom Cruise, right? And, um, die. What was it? What was that one? Uh, it was that, uh, movie.
Do you see the movie when he kept dying over again, the alien invasion one? Um, Tom Cruise. What was that movie? It was, uh, he kept dying over and over again. Edge of tomorrow. That was a call. It was based on the anime. Oh, yeah. It was called, uh, yeah, it was edge of tomorrow. Great concept. Groundhog day, you know, but he had to become an action hero at the end.
Right. To, to, to win. So it's kind of like that. So Tom Cruise, you know, he [00:59:00] was kind of riffing on people don't like him too much and seeing them die over and over again was kind of fun. So that's why that movie was kind of successful. So, um, so anyway, so like I said, I'll, uh, I could pass that's, that's a paramount plus, you know,
Mr.Benja: Paramount plus me.
Theo Harvey: Yeah, I'm very my place. Well Sony, so I don't know where's that gonna be made PlayStation. I don't know.
Mr.Benja: That's a good question But that was worth watching. I wonder how the game plays out now I mean, I suppose anytime you die in a game you just restart and
Theo Harvey: do you like horror so far survivor games? Do you play them?
Mr.Benja: Okay, so, I like the horror survivor when I'm feeling a certain way about my life. Like, when I just feel like, you know, I need to get up and things are after me and I need to fight back. Then I'm into that right now. I don't have the need to I don't have I don't feel the need to really watch [01:00:00] that So, you know I'm gonna go watch My hero stuff because I want to get up put a cape on and fly out the window and be that guy So what I feel a little down or whatever the zombie stuff the horror stuff that picks me back up
Theo Harvey: What?
Wow. That's interesting.
Mr.Benja: Yeah, you know, I mean, there's always that dead thing coming after you and you're like, Nah, son, I'm about to be alive in this B. I ain't about to die. And it just gives me a little bit of kick.
Theo Harvey: I love it. I love it. Yeah, man. Uh, I don't know if you remember, I stayed with this one guy, Lance, back in the day, back at FAMU.
And, uh, he was a gamer, but he was the IT guy. He would always do IT stuff around FAMU. I don't know if you remember him.
Mr.Benja: Lance G?
Theo Harvey: I think that was his last name. I can't remember. He's my roommate my last year at fam and I stayed in off of campus. But anyway, make a long story short, he was hilarious to me.
He, uh, he had a bunch of buddies over one time they were playing, um, what's that, uh, Resident Evil and the guy [01:01:00] sped through it. He was just a, I never see someone go so fast. The rest of the evil. I was like, wow. So yeah, so I, I really don't play horror survivor films, you know, but, uh, survival, survivor, Games is not my thing, but, uh, you know, I will play good shoot them up.
So,
Mr.Benja: but yeah,
Closing Remarks and Springtime Vibes
Theo Harvey: so anyway, those are the trailers for this week, Mr. Benji, anything else?
Mr.Benja: Nah, that's all I got, man. Uh, just going to be continuing to do my thing, um, in the zone, getting into the springtime feeling a little bit.
Theo Harvey: Yeah. Same here, man. Same here. I'm super excited about the spring and what brings, hopefully warms up a little bit as opposed to the negative 22 degrees that I'm hearing in other areas of the country.
So please stay warm. That's cute. But, uh, Mr. Benja. I hope you enjoyed this time with us guys. Please like, subscribe and comment at show versus business on X threads, YouTube and Instagram. This is a Spotify, iTunes, or wherever you listen to [01:02:00] podcasts. Visit us also on our website. Check us out. Show versus business, Mr.
Benja. Have a good one. Peace.