Fallout (Season 2): New Vegas and New Lines Crossed

Power rarely announces itself; it hides in helpful tech, polished speeches, and the stories we tell to sleep at night. Our latest review dives headfirst into Fallout Season 2’s brutal calculus: New Vegas as a glittering stalemate, mind control as a management strategy, and the thin line between saving someone and crowning a tyrant. We trace Lucy’s iron optimism through a prison of choices, from a hospital rescue that backfires to a final moment with Hank that cuts deeper than any bullet. We follow Cooper, the man under the ghoul, through flashbacks that recast him as a loyal soldier and a betrayed husband, and we weigh whether a clue in Colorado can still mend a family that time and radiation have twisted.

Inside the Brotherhood, the armor looks the same, but the orders don’t. Maximus stumbles into leadership and faces a rift sharpened by relics and pride, where a single decision to protect ghoul children burns every rule he signed. Dane and Thaddeus add tension and comic grit, while Area 51 and the Liberty Prime blueprint promise a war that will outsize any power armor. On the Strip, House pitches survival as math, the NCR hedges its bets, and Caesar’s Legion returns with a polished voice and a paper crown that still cuts. The “Kaiser’s Palace” wink lands hard because it’s true of every faction here: mythmaking is the only currency that never devalues.

Down in the vaults, the satire stings. Norm drags Vault-Tec’s suits into daylight, only to find the company’s best product was always obedience. Steph’s path from occupied Canada to a ceremony nobody asked for expands the map and raises the stakes on identity, memory, and who gets to write the official version. Hank’s chip network exposes a quiet empire built on borrowed wills. Lucy’s last act with her father—mercy as amputation—asks a question we can’t shake: if the wasteland can’t hold a fair trial, what does justice look like?

Stream the full breakdown for sharp takes, lore links, and bold season three bets, from New Vegas sieges to that Colorado tease. If you enjoy these deep dives, follow, share with a friend, and leave a quick review—what choice hit you hardest this season?

Transcript

Setting The Stage: Season Two

SPEAKER_01 0:01

What up, gang? It's the Zone Podcast with another review. We are continuing the Fallout TV series with season two. Fresh out. The finale is came out like a few days ago, so let's go ahead and talk about it. And just like last time, I'm glad to have Tanara on for this review. So let's go ahead and zone right on in. So, Fallout Season 2. It starts off with Lucy and the ghoul or Cooper, who are wherever you're comfortable with. People will still probably call him the ghoul, but at this point, I'm like, I respect him enough to like still call him Cooper because I just see him as Cooper. Like, I mean, he's not just a ghoul, he's a person, you know? Like, he's not fully turned, so I'm like, I still see him as a person. Uh they both traveled to New Vegas hoping to learn the truth about Boltz, Cooper's wife, um, and daughter, uh, Barbara and Janie Howard, Lucy's father, Hank, Maximus being promoted as a knight now within the Brotherhood of Steel, becomes increasingly disillusioned with the Brotherhood's internal corruption and the conflict between his own conscience and the Order's code. Uh, before we get deep into the part, what happened and all that stuff. Tenara, how impressed were you with season two?

SPEAKER_03 1:25

I definitely liked it. Um, like I messaged you after I watched that first episode. I'm like, that was a strong fucking start to season two.

SPEAKER_01 1:35

Yeah. Now bear in mind. Bear in mind that I was gonna wait until the finale to binge the whole thing. So I was like thinking, okay, I can only imagine something crazy happening. But when I actually watched it, I'm like, oh, oh.

SPEAKER_03 1:51

Yeah, I I knew you I knew you were waiting, so that's why I didn't I didn't say anything else other than that, just it was a strong fucking start.

SPEAKER_04 1:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:00

So um, but yeah, no, I I liked it. It was it was it was good. Um like like I said, I I believe I said in the first when we reviewed the first season, I've only played a little bit of one of the games, so I don't know, because I I know this one was like covering like New Vegas and whatnot. So I don't I don't know what comes next as far as the games go. So I don't know. I I have I have no expectations for season three. Um I have no idea what's gonna happen. So it's so yeah, so it'll be interesting to see where they go. And I saw your post they're new to for was it five or six seasons? Or it's that's how long six. So I'm I'm excited because I am I am very much enjoying the show. Um even though, like I said, I haven't I haven't played much of the games, I am I am definitely enjoying the show. So I'm excited that there's gonna be six seasons. So um, but yeah, no, it was it was good. And I I I I I don't know why I have a hard time remembering Cooper's name. So I've I've just called been calling him the ghoul and stuff. But yeah, it's like I I don't know why I have a hard time with names in general, but sometimes some names are just harder, and I have no idea why. So I'm just like, yeah, the ghoul.

SPEAKER_01 3:19

Yeah, no, that's okay. Hey, I'm not even grill you for the game knowledge because honestly, I'm in the same boat where I don't I didn't play Fallout that much. I played a little bit of Fallout 4, that's all I can really say. But um, I really want to get into New Vegas at the very least and do it justice on that because that's arguably the best one. Like, you don't even have to really play the first two, like just get into like Fallout 3 or New Vegas, and you're pretty much good. Like everything else pretty much sucks in comparison, or either that or like the first two, they're like specifically for PC. So, like if you can play it on PC, okay, cool. But like most people probably say, just play New Vegas, just play New Vegas.

SPEAKER_03 4:04

Good to know. Good to know if I ever get a chance to get it.

New Vegas And The Road To Colorado

SPEAKER_01 4:07

Yeah, but uh that is funny that you say that because I was gonna wait until the near end of mention it. But with season three, you could say that with the postcard that Cooper picked up when he found Barbara's um priopod that Colorado was a good idea after all. So they're heading towards Colorado. But check this out I'm learning that Colorado is the setting of a canceled fall off game. So it might be brand new territory as far as the TV series, but also it's like, oh, imagine this could have been a game. Yeah, it can still it still can be a game. That's the potential behind it, where if the show does well enough, just like with Arcane and other video game adaptations, if the show does well enough to give a resurgence to the video games like Fallout 4 and Fallout 76, hey, we might get a new game.

SPEAKER_03 5:09

Well, that'd be cool. Yeah, huh? Interesting. I wonder why they why they canceled it in the first place.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

No idea. I might look into it. We'll see by season three. I'll I'll look into it by season three.

SPEAKER_03 5:24

But uh do you have any timeline on that, by the way?

SPEAKER_01 5:29

I'm glad you said that because circling back to where you were saying about six seasons, I'm thinking, I'm just speculating. Just estimation. I want to say if they're going for a generational run, I consider anything that goes beyond 10 years a generational run. If they're trying to stretch it out to 2030-ish, I would say we're gonna get a new season once every one to two years from now.

SPEAKER_03 6:03

I was gonna say, when when I forget when exactly season one started, like how long how long was the time?

SPEAKER_01 6:10

I want to say like late 2023. Let me check.

Lore Gaps And Game Connections

SPEAKER_03 6:14

I was like, 'cause it didn't feel like there was all that long between season one and two. I was happy.

SPEAKER_01 6:19

It wasn't like as soon as Fallout Season 1 concluded, they were already working on Fallout Season 2, and shoot, it was doing well enough to where, yeah, 2024. So not far behind from each other.

SPEAKER_03 6:32

So yeah, so I mean, technically only a year because this season two started in 2025. So yeah, so yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:43

All right, well, let's let's see if they keep that up or if they they do slow down to sort of stretch it out to you know that does depend on budget and production quality, to where like if they're adding more, like making it like even more of a spectacle than the first two seasons, then imagine they're gonna have to uh cook a little bit longer. So that's why I'm giving it the grace of two years per season at this point. Like they got four more, so if they're going for that generational run, I give them max two years per season.

SPEAKER_03 7:17

Yeah, which I mean, even that compared to some things, is that's a relatively short amount of time. So, but yeah, very very excited to see where they go.

SPEAKER_01 7:30

And obviously, of course, there's gonna be so much shit in between other shows, movies, anime, and whatnot. I mean, by the time they roll out, I'm like, hey man, you know what? We almost forgot to see what's going on.

SPEAKER_03 7:44

Yeah, exactly. Like, you know, with everything else, it just makes it the time fly much faster.

Cooper’s Past And Mind Control Tech

SPEAKER_01 7:51

Oh yeah. But uh, you know what? Let's go ahead and dive into this plot. Um now we do get more backstory and follow-up on Cooper's life before the great fallout. Um, and Robert House is using this strange device to kill two or three men by implanting a chip in one of them, something that'll be used in one of the balls experiments. I say two or three because yeah, he used the device on that one big guy, and then he definitely killed one of his buddies, but the other one, he just kind of threw the bad at him and it kind of hit him and got knocked him out, but I don't think it killed him. And then obviously, Robert uh overloaded the machine, and that just made the big dude's head explode. So definitely two, but I don't know about that third one. I think he just knocked them out.

SPEAKER_03 8:40

To be fair, though, the goal of the device wasn't to kill them, it was to control them, but it just failed, and so he had to overload it to save himself.

SPEAKER_05 8:49

Right.

SPEAKER_03 8:50

So the goal the the original goal wasn't to kill them, that just ended up being what happened.

Vault 31 Chaos And Norm’s Gambit

SPEAKER_01 8:56

While Lucy and Cooper tracked down Hang, uh Norm is seen starving in Vault 31, refusing to go into Cryo Space as well. The talking Roomba, um, but as King Norm Hunts did, uh but a Roomba doesn't exist in this universe. That was the crazy part.

SPEAKER_03 9:14

Really?

SPEAKER_01 9:15

Yeah.

unknown 9:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 9:18

Think about it, like it's in an alternate universe, so like technically Roombas shouldn't exist in this universe.

SPEAKER_03 9:26

So that doesn't mean that they wouldn't that doesn't mean that they wouldn't have made like a their own version, alternate universe version of basically a Roomba. Right. So yeah, so yeah, that is where that would actually be called that. Hmm. Didn't even think about that.

SPEAKER_01 9:46

Yeah, that was like one of the craziest details. That's why I kind of like uh kind of why I like watching things with subtitles where sometimes you just catch up with the details like that. It's even if I'm watching like English dub anime, and sometimes you gotta have the uh subtitles on uh just in case uh something gets lost in translation.

SPEAKER_03 10:16

Yeah, fair, fair. But yeah, no, that that talking room, but yeah. Yup, and the way he just norm, you know, tricks it to trick him, it, whatever, to be able to, you know, get out of there and whatnot. And it's just like, well shit.

Shady Sands Revealed And Hank’s Role

SPEAKER_01 10:41

Uh where was it? Oh, oh yeah, uh Bud Askins is keeping Norm hostage in Vault 31, as we've seen um during the last episode of season one. And ultimately, Norm decides to pretty much kick the bucket, like, you know, he he easily overpowered Bud, so it was no big deal. He just pretty much kicked that syringe out of it. Like it was like, bro, is that much of threat. All you gotta do is like, man, let me just kick this out of the way and then just throw Bud into the third hand. Um he ultimately decided to release everyone from their pod because plans are hard, but chaos is easy.

SPEAKER_03 11:31

That's for sure. And was their chaos?

SPEAKER_01 11:34

I did like that part. We see Hank approaching an abandoned Voltaid building, cleans himself up and reports to Mr. House before continuing their work on the mind control chips. And I gotta say, like, I'm still I feel so betrayed by Hank to where, like, after all that shit, you know, it gets even wilder until we get to finale. Like, wait till we talk about that for now with uh Hank. Like uh, not just uh mind control, you know, we'll we'll get there. Hold on. Because that shit just opened up a whole bunch of doors for us. Now, we get more backs through our maximus and how Shady Sands was destroyed. Like, essentially, what happened was Hank had one of those mind control chips inside uh one of the I think it was like NCR person or something like that, and they had the nuclear bomb carried on a truck, and you know how it was with season one where the whole thing with Lucy and Nora's mother going over to Shady's hands with Mo David and whatnot, and Hank was like, uh, I can't have any of that. So, y'all gone, and he pretty much dead next to bomb and whatnot. You see it all that, and next thing you know, like, bro, he's like washing his hands of the whole thing in literal and metaphorical fashion. And Lucy's like, Dad, come play with me. All right, sweetie, I'm coming. And I'm like, You just didn't kill a whole bunch of people.

SPEAKER_03 13:09

Exactly. Like, damn, dude, that's cold as fuck. Like, damn.

SPEAKER_01 13:18

It was like kind of sad too, like Maximus' parents, like putting him in the bridge, like, hey, hey, you're gonna be alright and whatnot. And I was like, uh, and then like, hey, you're gonna be alright. We did good, but you know, we uh we were good parents, and the next thing you know, you see that glass, and like, oh no, they were wasting way too much time talking to him and to each other. They would have found cover already, but nope, they're gone.

SPEAKER_03 13:43

Yeah, there, I mean, there was only so much they could do. There wasn't really any good shel actual shelters, and you know, I'm sure other families are putting their kids in the fridges as well. They're not like everyone could fit into the fridges, so it's like they they you know, they they accepted their fate and they just wanted to make sure their son was saved at the very least. Like, yeah, it's like oof. Hard hard decision to make, but they they made it.

SPEAKER_01 14:20

In the meanwhile, Lucy saves a tunic woman from a hospital. Well, Lucy and Cooper, they'll still hunt and now Hank, right? And next thing you know, they were gonna uh walk past this hospital, and this tunic woman was like yelling really loud, help me, help me. And then Lucy's like, uh, we're gonna do something about that, right? And then like, and Cooper was like, No, we don't have to do anything. Like, you have to go after your father. But like, nah, we ain't gonna be like that. Like, who this that woman needs our help, and went into the hospital, and then Cooper's like, God damn this bitch.

SPEAKER_04 14:58

All right.

SPEAKER_01 15:00

You know, they were going in there trying to see about the tunic woman and the tunic man, uh, but they had to deal with uh a whole nymph of rat scorpions. Uh Cooper gets gone, and it was either him or the tunic woman, as far as the one stem pack that uh Lucy could use to help them. She chose the tunic woman because she didn't like how Cooper was so willing to just abandon the woman.

SPEAKER_03 15:31

Um, she also knew, you know, that he he would be fine, he could heal and whatnot, because he's you know, he's a ghoul, he's not normal human. They have, you know, they're basically already dead, sort of, but still, you know, still themselves until they lose themselves, unless they use that stuff that Cooper's been using this whole time. So she was like, you know, I know you'll be fine, I don't know that this woman will be fine. And yeah, so yeah, she was and she was like, maybe this will give you some time to think about your actions. It's like, Jesus, girl.

SPEAKER_01 16:08

Yes, that is true. You're right, that he could survive, like he could kind of walk it off. Um his supply, but he did warn her that you're not gonna uh they don't they don't deserve saving. Um people like that don't deserve saving.

SPEAKER_05 16:31

And it's go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 16:36

Sorry, what what exactly were like that that seems like something from the games that like said I haven't played, so I wouldn't know because he was like as soon as he saw you know what they were wearing, he was like, Oh, those people don't deserve, and it's like what what exactly were they that he said that honestly, once again, I haven't played the games either, so I don't know. Fair enough, okay. Yeah, because that that that confused me.

Caesar’s Legion, Captivity, And Culkin

SPEAKER_01 17:03

I'm like that obviously that must be something from the game, but I have no idea what, so okay, all right, yeah, and see that's the thing, like uh sometimes with certain characters, yeah, they might be an asshole, but sometimes they are right about certain things, and it's crazy how he was right about um the one with where it wasn't like she was being nefarious or malicious or anything, it's more like they were both just uh escaping from the hospital and whatnot, and then uh Lucy following her lead ended up getting captured by the Legion, and next thing you know, uh the tooting woman was trying to explain herself, and then she ended up getting her own virtual seat.

SPEAKER_03 17:53

Yeah. Yep, yeah, she was nope. And I I you know, when we were at the camp and stuff, I was not expecting to see Macaulay Culkin. That was a bit of a jump scare. I was like, holy shit, I had to rewind to make sure that that's who it was. And I was like, oh my god, it's fucking Macaulay Culkin. What the hell?

SPEAKER_01 18:18

No, that's the crazy part because I was expecting him because see, when they were saying that, oh, season two production, man, this man's face was like all over my time. I say, Oh, yeah, they got Macaulay Culkin for a seat fall. And I was like, okay, cool. What's he gonna do?

SPEAKER_03 18:35

Yeah, see, I had I had no idea. I was like, holy shit, okay, cool.

SPEAKER_01 18:40

Nah, the reveal though, the reveal made it obvious where I'm like, the way they would try to reveal his character, he's he's like an important character in the fall universe. But uh, once again, I haven't played the game, so I don't really know him like that. But uh apparently, yeah, obviously by the end of the season, you understand uh what role he plays and all of this. Um but no, the way they try to reveal, and I'm like, oh, that's him right there. Because they they're they're slow cooking the reveal to I'm like, yep, that's him, because they were like really teasing the fact that he was gonna play some kind of role in this. And even though I do like his character, am I the only one that felt like he his mannerisms and whatnot just didn't fit that faction of the Paul Universe? It's almost like everybody else was like barbaric and shit, and he was the only one that sounded like a perfect gentleman. Almost like he excuse me. It's almost like I like his performance, don't get me wrong, it's but it's almost feel like he's the only one that's like built different. Like almost like, are you sure you're in the right place? Because you almost sound barbaric and like Neanderthal, like the other guy, like you sound like you got addiction and proper pronunciation, like like like an airiness in your voice, where I'm like, I you don't sound like a war, you sound like you could be someone that wiser, and it's kind of worse till, you know, oh Kiters no thing.

SPEAKER_03 20:28

Yeah, and he took over and whatnot. Yeah, well, I mean, because they were all based on, you know, like the Roman and you know, legions and whatnot. And so I I thought that he did a pretty pretty good job with that. Um not I mean, you know, you got the soldiers and you got the ones that are commanding the soldiers and telling them what to do and whatnot. So it would make sense that they'd be a little more eloquent in their speech and whatnot.

SPEAKER_01 20:55

Ain't it crazy how Lucy's pointing out how, oh well, I see what y'all trying to do, but y'all kind of mixing up Roman and Greek mythologies.

Brotherhood Politics And Civil War Seeds

SPEAKER_03 21:06

Yeah, yeah, it's like you're you're you're messing up the the stuff here, but all but you but you do you, okay, okay, yeah, you do you. It's like mm.

SPEAKER_04 21:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:21

Um and then poor Lucy getting crucified. It's like geez a louise.

SPEAKER_01 21:28

Right. Oh man, like I I thought that was kind of crazy, and it's crazy how like with the ghoul showing up, you know, he you know, I told you, but he didn't really say that, but like, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:43

But that was you know, that's exactly what he was thinking, and what that like some of those looks like I told you so, but you didn't listen.

SPEAKER_01 21:53

I'm like, come on, like, even when Lucy was rolling with Maximus, like by now you should know that. People are equipped to sell you out. Like and that's the funny thing, too. Like these interactions are based on what could happen in the game, where you could come across this character and they seem like they're trustworthy. It turns out they're a snake in the grass. So it's it's understandable how uh you wanna help people, but turns out they're the wrong people to help. And it's it's understandable at all. It's like uh that's the that's what me that's what I kind of like about Lucy is where she's trying to do the right thing, even though sometimes doing the right thing isn't the good thing. That's a real weird thing. It's like sometimes doing a good thing isn't the right thing, and doing the right thing isn't always a good thing.

SPEAKER_03 22:51

Yep, and it's it's hard to tell sometimes. It's like you you would sometimes you don't know until after the fact.

SPEAKER_04 23:01

Yeah.

Thaddeus Returns And Maximus’ Choices

SPEAKER_01 23:02

So, yeah. Now we're gonna circle back to um Caesar's leaving because let me just say one of the funniest things they ever did in this series happened. Let me get back to him. But um, going back to Norm, he's leading all those executives from Vault 31 to the surface, trying to figure everything out. So, okay, I kind of like how Norm is like being a leader of subsorts, but even though he's kind of lying to them, talking about, oh yeah, uh, I was cool with Bud, and he told me to let y'all know the deal, like it's reclamation game, whatnot. But then there was that one dude, uh, what was his name? Ronnie, that was like, oh well, you know, I was closer to um, but the use of I might wondering, like, did you know the game? But like he was like really on to Norm for the most part. So uh I will get back to Ronnie and the others in just a moment, but back to Maximus. He and his chapter of the Brotherhood of Steel resettle in Area 51 as their new base. Uh Elder Quintus convinces the elders, uh, other local chapters to stage a civil war against a stronger Commonwealth chapter with the help of the seas coal fusion technology. But an envoy of the Commonwealth chapter, Xander Hartness, arrives under the mouse. And uh damn, I keep forgetting how his name pronounced, but you know, uh buddy that plays uh he plays Kingo in Eternals, but he's also one of those um guys from Star Wars. I'm like from the single series, like the Indian dude, uh what the name was, but like I kind of like seeing on screen. Like I'm not at least I'm not tired of him yet. You know how it is where like you got certain actors where it's like all of a sudden again, all this work, and I'm like, look here, nothing personal, but um you uh you kind of uh jumping on a little too many projects. Like you uh I didn't like I'm seeing you in Star Wars and Marvel and all this. I'm like, bro, bro, bro, chill out, dog.

SPEAKER_03 25:23

Like yeah, that's yep.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

It's like the uh the Rogan event for me to where it's like I really love his early work, not gonna lie, I I still love his early work, but it seemed like he just in a whole bunch of different shit. I'm like, sometimes you don't need certain answers for everything, you know.

SPEAKER_03 25:43

Yeah, like like with uh um Zendaya and Tom Holland, it's like I love them and you know I love Spider-Man, I love it and stuff, you know. I liked her in um Greatest Showman, but it's like I feel like they're in a lot so much stuff now, and I feel like a lot of fan casting stuff, they put them in everything that that that is getting fan cast. And it's like, okay, they're great. What about other people though? Yeah, like I like I like them and I love I love their movies and stuff, but yeah, they are they're it's getting to that sort of that point with those two as well, where it's like, oh my goodness, and and just every getting fan cast at as everyone and everything.

SPEAKER_01 26:30

It's like oh uh like in recent times, I like how it's like sitting swinging is being thrown into everything. Like uh, for instance, he's starring in a mobile suit gundam movie soon, and I'm sitting like I'm not against it, but why?

SPEAKER_05 27:00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

I'm like not against it, but why though?

NCR, Drugs, And The Strip

SPEAKER_03 27:06

Yep, exactly. Just just tell me that, but why, but why you aren't giving me a but why yeah, uh oh my name, I'm sorry, but like what happened earlier that kind of threw me off like uh you know gotta edit it in post.

SPEAKER_01 27:29

Um yeah, I was talking about with the brotherhood, how essentially they're trying to do civil war uh against the commonwealth. And oh, remember Thaddeus uh that one squire that bullied Maximus and became a ghoul in season one? Well, he's back, and he's running some sort of business with child labor.

SPEAKER_03 27:55

Yep, make collecting those bottle caps, you know.

SPEAKER_01 28:01

Oh, oh man. That was funny too, because I might forget later. Uh, how Maximus would fight all those death claws later on in the season, and Daddy was like, hey man, I got 500 caps with my boy Maximus. I'm like, man, you you don't got the caps like that. And then he just sick his little pant leg and like Callum, Callum Brooks. Yeah, I used to make money for a living.

SPEAKER_03 28:26

Literally. Yup, that was funny. Just shaking out the pant legs, like, oh shit, okay.

House, Cold Fusion, And Enclave Threads

SPEAKER_01 28:37

Bro, like, you see, that little bit that they were doing in that shop while Maxim was fighting, that was like some of the funniest shit, but I'll get to that in a moment. Uh at this point now, I'm gonna get a little bit more talkative because there's like way more context going forward. So, flashing back to 27-7, the man supporter of House, you know, the stand in the figurehead type dude, uh, confronts Cooper in a veterans event about his loyalties, hinting that they will meet again back in 2296. Lucy is captured and crucified by Caesar's Legion, like we mentioned earlier, which was fractured into two rival factions competing for control of uh Kaiser's uh death. And that's a funny thing, too, because you keep thinking Caesar, because Kaiser is more like Russian, but that's the problem is that they got their cultures mixed up, and it's spelt like Caesar, so it's really just like really come on, guys. Kaiser, okay, yeah, and like we're gonna put a pen on that, by the way. I'm like, there's one more thing about that that like that made me really bust out laughing, like um, but yeah, they were like rival facts and trying to compete over who's uh the next Kaiser, and the ghoul recovers from his injuries, seeing help to rescue Lucy. He visits uh the NCR camp reuniting with Victor A. Rodko, Securitron, who directs him to the last NCR holdout in the Mohave. When the NCR refuses aid, the ghoul negotiates regarding to the Legion, trading the NCR's location for Lucy's freedom while secretly sabotaging the camp, reigniting conflict between the rival Legion factions. Meanwhile, within the Brotherhood, the alliance falls apart after the rival Harkness, despite Quintus shaming Maximus for offering to kill Harkness and potentially starting a war. Maximus later kills Harkness anyway to prevent him from murdering ghoul children led by Thaddeus. Because the thing was, uh Buddy Roe uh Harkness, he was like, Oh, y'all are an abomination. Uh, y'all not people, and we just like rated blast and like it was like something fun to do. And Max, I like how funny enough, like uh, in case I don't mention this later, I like how Maximus didn't seem like the type that like was all that badass and whatnot, I'm not gonna lie. I mean, he did fight and he not gonna lie, he most of the fights he gets in, he gets his ass kicked for like the first half, and then second half is like, okay, he got that fire back in him, so he ends up sneaking in the win. But um lately, I like how Buddy is like when it comes to options, like you know, like in the game where it's like you have like multiple options, and I like how it just feels like somebody keep uh keep going down this opposite to where, like, hey, I could kill him.

SPEAKER_03 32:01

Like it's like, I mean, there's that's always an option, yeah. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 32:06

Like uh same thing with Quintus, though. Like, uh, after he killed Harkness, uh he told Dane about it, and then Dane was like, bro, what the fuck? What are you gonna do? And I'm like, I could kill Quintus. I'm like, bro, like, where are you coming from? Like, how is that your first thought? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Jesus Christ, like murder hobo all of a sudden.

SPEAKER_03 32:32

Yeah, no kidding.

SPEAKER_01 32:37

Oh, during the Sino American War, Cooper is ambushed by Chinese soldiers in Alaska but survives when a death law kills them. In 2296, Norm grows suspicious of a Vault Tech lunch boy named Ronnie, like I mentioned earlier, who seemed to know more than he reveals. In Vault 33, a broken water chip caused severe shortages, leading Betty to console Steph. They discover that Vault 31 is empty and that the experiment is effectively over, but Steph withholds help with unless she receives a box thorn in Vault 33. Woody oversears all this. He reports the conversation to Steph, dumbass. Like, why would you report it to the motherfucker that runs it? No, they're gonna take that complaint. Imagine you like write a complaint and like, hey, I saw you doing some suspicious shit. What are you gonna do about it? And I'm like, oh well, let me just take it up to um the acting overseer. Like, but you're the acting overseer. Oh yeah, that's right. So I'm gonna take your written complaint and just wipe my ass with it.

SPEAKER_03 33:46

Well, pretty much. Pretty much.

SPEAKER_01 33:50

I'm like, you what are you dumb ass? Like, why would you report it to her? I'm like, dumb.

Hank’s Schemes And The Freeside Betrayal

SPEAKER_03 33:56

I mean, it's it's like how Lucy was in season one. She was just just so um fuck, I lost the word. Naive, basically. Like they that's you know, they're all just so honest and naive because they grew up, you know, with in in the vault and everything was, you know, hunky dory, and it's like they don't know to not do this shit anymore.

SPEAKER_01 34:25

Yeah, like it's I mean, yeah, like with the way they were educated and whatnot, you would think, oh well, everybody's supposed to be nice to each each other. Like, I wouldn't ever imagine anyone having like nefarious agendas.

SPEAKER_03 34:40

Exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 34:43

It's like uh But ain't that the perfect thing though, because the people in charge would be like they would have this indoctrination in their head so deep, it was like that's the perfect way to like practically get away with murder. Where like you can like murder somebody and I'll like, oh well, what's murder? I'm like, exactly. Don't worry about that. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 35:04

Yep, exactly. It's like oof, okay.

SPEAKER_01 35:10

But uh, what was oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Like he Woody Overtiering uh reports it. Chet later learns um that Steph has a pre-war Canadian ID. And I believe, uh, hold on, there's like the yeah, it is the next. Is it the next episode? Uh, or maybe it was like a few episodes later. Oh, yeah, that's like a few episodes later. Um, we'll get more backstory on stuff, so I'll save that for later. Uh meanwhile, Maximus returns to Area 51 with Thaddeus, disguised as Harkness and Power Armor to prevent the Civil War. He Maximus attempts to kill Quintus, but chaos erupts after Dane steals the cold fusion relic, forcing Maximus and Thaddeus to flee with it. Lucy returns, uh, recovers at an NCR camp, but becomes addicted to drugs.

SPEAKER_05 36:06

That was like, what the hell?

SPEAKER_01 36:08

And she later joins the ghoul to enter the desert New Vegas trip where they are confronted by death call. I like how Lucy on drugs makes her twice as optimistic and kind of more badass.

SPEAKER_03 36:24

Yeah, honestly, yeah. That was that was basically all they did to her, and you know, made her a little itchy and whatnot.

SPEAKER_01 36:32

But if anything, it's more like it kind of removed her uh mental inhibitions, yeah. Her inhabitants, that's right. Thank you. I was looking for the word. What was the right word for it? Like her inner business where she would have been hesitant to do it, but no, she was like, All right, let's go. Like, fuck it, let's fuck it.

SPEAKER_03 36:51

We bought exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 36:54

It was like, all right, okay, and then the ghoul was like, Well, goddamn, this is why I should have got you some drugs a long time ago.

SPEAKER_05 37:03

Right.

SPEAKER_03 37:07

Oh my gosh, yep. It's like, damn, where was this side of you this whole time?

Weddings, IDs, And Vault Power Plays

SPEAKER_01 37:12

Yeah, I'm like, if I wasn't, if I didn't have a wife, I might fall in love with you. But no, uh, flashing back to 27-7, uh, Kate Williams, uh, you know, um, we know it's Moldaver nowadays, uh, orders Cooper to kill uh Robert House and retrieve the cold fusion device. He agrees only to recover device. He's not going for killing. Uh Cooper, Barb, and a younger Hank travel to the Lucky38 in Las Vegas, where Cooper meets the real Robert House who plans to keep uh use the device to survive indefinitely after concluding nuclear war is inevitable, caused by an unknown third party rather than himself or Voltec. But um we already have an idea who uh who that is, and I'm gonna mention them later. And back in 2296, Norm and Vault Tech executives reached the ruins of the company's headquarters where Norm uncovers information about the forced evolutionary virus or FEB before being strangled by Ronnie after Ronnie learns that uh Norm has been lying to everybody. Uh Lucy and the Ghoul escape death clause on the New Vegas trip and settle in Freeside. Hemp kidnaps a California, the snake oil salesman from uh season one. Like he kidnaps him and then plants the control chip inside of him, using him to summon the ghoul and offering the safety of the ghoul's family in exchange for Lucy's return to Vault 33. And then Lucy was like, okay, well, uh tell my father, I don't uh you come back to Vault 33, but no, like the ghoul was like, uh, Lucy, that's the thing. Um I took that deal, so I'm gonna need to go with him. And then uh he shoots her with a tranquilizer gun. Uh she was supposed to be knocked out, and I was like, oh well, you know what, Balti, I really hate to do that to you. Uh, but you know, I gotta look out for my family. And next thing you know, remember, uh, before all this, Lucy went into a shop to try to um get some uh Adatol because you know she's trying to flush out the drugs out of her system. And while she was there, she got that power glove. And I like that exchange with uh Shop Keep where it's like, hey, what are you doing? I'm like, uh nothing. I'm just leaving. I'm like, oh, you just leaving? I'm like, yeah, I'm just leaving. I'm like, uh, what are you doing with that gun? Don't pull out that gun. If you pull out that gun, I'm gonna have to menu. What'd you do it? What you do, bam.

SPEAKER_05 40:11

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 40:12

And then um, next thing you know, like she had like a second win with that tranco wiser gun to where like she got uh pulled, put on that fucking power claw, uh, that power fist, knocked the ghoul out into the fucking window, and he got impaled onto that pole, and she she was like, I thought we were friends.

SPEAKER_03 40:35

Yep, it's like, oh man, man, that was crazy.

Liberty Prime And War On The Horizon

SPEAKER_01 40:40

But then she ends up falling down, and then Hank walks in. I'm like, wait, hold on, so you were on a standby somewhere the whole time? Because ain't no way, no, ain't no way you just like showed up hours later. Like, no, you were just like somewhere in the cut somewhere.

SPEAKER_03 40:56

Like, yeah, Fallout's just like, oh shit, where the fuck were you?

SPEAKER_01 41:07

But you know, he retrieves Lucy and takes her back to the Vaultek um place that he was at. Back in 207, Cooper confronts Barbara by Vault Tech's plan on calling her a monster, but like Barbara's like, bro, you're gonna realize that there are worse people than me. And uh she's been revealing that she's shielding their family from a Nebu nuclear war by playing the part, only sharing the idea of dropping the bombs first after it was suggested by Dr. Wilson. You remember him from season one with uh when he was first introduced to Lucy, uh, had dog meet with him, had the uh cold fusion relic in his Yeah, you know. Uh after later on, Cooper, drugs Hank, and Barb extract the cold fusion relic from him and back to 2296, Woody goes missing in Vault 32 while Chet finds out he's officially getting married uh with Steph. I like the I like the way he finds out too to where uh Reg and everybody else like, hey Chet, congratulations on getting married. I'm like, I'm like, hold on, whoa, whoa, hold on. I ain't I ain't getting married. What the fuck are you talking about? You didn't see the poster? You didn't see the posters down um always I'm like, fuck the poster? Like, what the fuck y'all talking about? And then I was like, uh, uh oh I think I think she's on to me, dog. I think she's on to me, dog.

SPEAKER_03 42:45

Yeah, it's like, oh shit, okay, what the fuck?

Final Theories, Ratings, And Hopes

SPEAKER_01 42:50

Oh no, my bad. It wasn't uh Reg. It was I forgot his name, but it wasn't Reg. Uh Reg is the one with the uh snack club, and he turned on standing up to Betty um after Betty's like shutting down the club because you know the their problem was there was the inbreeding group where they like kind of like you know, cope with being the product of inbreeding, and they just eat salty snacks, and that's causing them to drink way more water than they're supposed to because they're supposed to be rationing out the water. So they're being selfish as hell with their snack club, and Betty was like, nah, I need to shut that down. And they were treating her like she was the villain. No, like she's right, like y'all being very selfish with this. It doesn't matter if y'all already oh, we already got the budget for it. I'm like, bro, fucking recession. Like fuck your budget. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 43:50

But yeah, no, this is like, no, this is you know, this is a lab, blah blah. It's like, nah, nah, you're you're it this is not, this is no longer a thing. Shit down.

SPEAKER_01 44:02

Meanwhile, Lucy wakes up at the secret ball tag facility where she learns Hank has been kidnapping Wastelanders and brainwashing them to build more control chips. She apprehends Hank, intending to take him back to Vault 33 and face justice for destroying sick Shady Sands, but he trick Hank tricks her into brainwashing two rival Wastelanders from the Legion, and the Ghoul is freed from the pole by a super mutant saving him from going feral. He attempts to recruit him for an upcoming war with the Enclave, the true instigator behind the nuclear war, but Cooper declines. Afterwards, Dog Meat leaves Maximus and Thaddeus to find the ghoul. So it's actually kind of a good thing that Dumb Dog was like, Oh, you stupid dog, you're supposed to give me the fucking drug being barrel.

SPEAKER_05 44:59

But like nah, he's he's going to get help.

SPEAKER_01 45:02

Yeah, he's going to get help. Uh okay, now we get backstory on Steph. Now, before the war, Steph escaped from an internment camp in American-occupied Canada with her mother, who is mortally wounded. In 27-7, she finds work in Las Vegas, where she meets Hank while seeking a job with Voltec. Cooper, advised by Congresswoman Diane Welch, decides to hand over a cold fusion relic to the president, flashing back to uh going back forward to 2296. Norm recovers and managed to transmit a radio message to Lucy, but he ends up getting knocked back out by the Vault Tech executives. Uh, inside the vaults, Betty gives Steph a box for longing to hang, and during Steph's wedding, Ted accuses her of killing Woody and revealing her true identity. No, I like the way he did it too. It was like, uh, hey, yo, like this bitch 200 years old. And also, she's not even American, she's Canadian, and they were like, oh my god, Canadian.

SPEAKER_03 46:14

I was like, Yeah, that was just like it's like, damn, okay, guys.

SPEAKER_01 46:20

No, I was like, no, no, no. Let's go back to the part where like she's being accused of killing Woody and also being 200 years old. I was I would have been stuck on that, but nah, the big they made uh big reveal title, like, oh, she's not even American. I'm like, I'm like, what, y'all got something against Canadians? Y'all got something against Canadians in this universe? I'm okay.

SPEAKER_03 46:43

Apparently so. Like, damn. Yeah, I was just like, okay, that's the big thing out of the two. If you say so, I guess. Geez.

SPEAKER_01 46:56

Yeah, like alright, all right. But uh, what was that? Oh, yeah, at the Voltail facility, Lucy appears to support Hank's plan, but secretly sabotage it by shutting down the control chest mainframe uh run by the preserved head of well. You the congresswoman where like it turns out that like they saved her head and they used it as a core lot. That's crazy. And she was like, kill me, kill me. I'm like, why does everybody keep wanting to try to kill her? Like, I don't want to keep doing it. I'm trying to be a good noodle, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 47:34

Exactly. She's like, don't make me do this.

SPEAKER_01 47:37

Yeah. Uh shit. Oh god, I got it. Uh, meanwhile, Maximus, Thaddeus, and Cooper. See, I'm doing it to where I might call him the ghoul. Uh they agreed to rescue Lucy in exchange for the relic. And I like the way they did it tooth where like uh that uh Maximus said, Dang, like no matter what, you always end up work where you started. And I was like, now you understand.

SPEAKER_04 48:10

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 48:12

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 48:14

On the strip, Maximus battled death quads and power armor. Uh Cooper infiltrates the Lucky38, uses the rel to activate a monitor, and comes face to face with uh House on screen.

SPEAKER_03 48:28

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 48:30

Anything to add on to all that so far, Tenora?

SPEAKER_03 48:33

No, not so far.

SPEAKER_01 48:36

Gotcha, gotcha. All right. Uh, final episode that happened. Back in 27-7, Hank and Steph get engaged in Las Vegas. Hold on. Let's keep a pin on that because I have theories. While Cooper is arrested after taking the blame for Barb for handing the relic to the president, come to find out that the president is part of the enclave back in 2296. The Legion schism ends with Sir Teleggett, you know, McCole Coke's um character, proclaiming himself as Kaiser and plans to seize New Vegas. And get this this man, wait, this man straight up saying, Yeah, we're gonna build ourselves a new kingdom, a new empire in uh New Vegas, and we're gonna call it Kaiser's Palace.

SPEAKER_03 49:32

Yeah, I know. I was like, I think he said that I was like, oh my god, yeah, that was just like, oh my god, seriously, like damn, come on now.

SPEAKER_01 49:48

I'm like, yo, no, that was cute. Oh, I ain't no way.

SPEAKER_05 49:56

Mm-hmm. Like, okay, well, I mean, yes.

SPEAKER_01 50:04

Oh, fuck. But no, I I like how the last Kaiser, uh, you know, the one that they were fighting over the body for, and they left the note, and he was like, I am Kaiser, there's no one um before me, after me, and all that shit. And then uh Legate took that as uh no, no, in fact, the only other guy that uh witnessed it, and he was like, So, what we gonna do? I was like, I'll tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna thank you. You didn't see shit, uh, and then he gonna eat the note and then walk out of there with the crown on, talking about, oh well, I guess I'm the new Kaiser. Next thing on the agenda, let's roll to New Vegas and take over.

SPEAKER_03 50:52

Yep, it's gonna be ours.

SPEAKER_01 50:56

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:58

Norm.

SPEAKER_01 51:00

Norm and Claudia survive a Brad Roach attack on the Baltech HU that kills the rest of the Baltech executives as they attempt to bring Norm to trial. And honestly, I say good. Like, first of all, uh, all those other executives kind of deserve it, not gonna lie. Well, especially Ronnie. Like, see, no, that's a weird one where it's like they were all trying to run away from the rat roaches, but the thing was they were gonna push Norm out and everybody else to stay in that one room, but that one rat roach, like, kind of uh you know, wormed his way in, and then all the other rat roaches swarmed inside that fucking room, so everybody except Claudia died, and I'm like, you know what? Deserve.

SPEAKER_03 51:43

Yeah, it's like uh I'm not sad about this.

SPEAKER_01 51:47

No, I would have been mad if Claudia died. I don't like the one person, and like, not gonna lie, crazy enough. Am I wrong for saying that I kind of like how she was like kind of teeked up in her um fucking jumpsuit? I was like that one selling where like, you know what? I hope she's wrong.

SPEAKER_04 52:08

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 52:10

I mean, like, if anything, like Norm, I feel like Norm needs that like a companion that will help her be a man, if you know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03 52:19

Yep. I when when um he had gotten her out and was like, let's get out of here, and was like put her on like that basically like a stretcher and was pulling her along behind him. I was like, I I immediately messaged my friend and said, Oh, is this a new ship Ice by Normix Claudia? And she was like, Yes, we ship everything.

SPEAKER_01 52:39

Yeah, I'm like, you know what? I want that to happen.

SPEAKER_03 52:43

I want I was like, and right before that was you know when when Lucy and Max um, you know, got reunited, and I was like, the Lucy Max ship can sail once more.

SPEAKER_01 52:54

Reuniting feels so good.

SPEAKER_03 52:58

Uh-huh. I mean, you know, I I am a shipper, so yeah, and I said in season one, I ship Max and Lucy, because you know, obviously that's it, that's they're definitely going toward that being endgame, you know, actual cannon ship stuff. So it's like I shipped that. So I'm I was glad to see that they were back to had gotten back together. They reunited and stuff, and then I was like, a new ship, yay, with Claudia and warm.

SPEAKER_01 53:26

Every time, like after every season at this point, I'm always gonna think about that one picture that they took behind the scenes where they were both like, you know, have their uh tongues out and like uh poking their ass out, and like, yo, just the saviors of the wasteland, everybody. Oh, yeah, yo, you know what? And you know, crazy enough, like I ship them to be like obviously because you know the kids and whatnot, they got like some sort of thing going on, but it's like their thing is it's like they have that awkward whiz, like they're both awkward people, so it's like in a way it works. Whereas like Lucy's like awkward in a sheltered, naive kind of way, and you could say Maximus is like the same way, except he he has more experience with the wasteland and the turpest world than Lucy, but still though, he's like socially awkward. Like you can tell he's socially awkward because one, the whole thing with uh making his cock explode. Like, are you for real, fam?

SPEAKER_02 54:35

Um yeah, that was that was weird in season one, and that was so awkward, like, bro.

SPEAKER_01 54:41

And second, like it kind of still stands in season two. Like, you remember when uh he was suggested to Quintus that he could kill Harkness, and Quintus was like, no, that's like the dumbest thing you can ever think of. And then Quintus was like, uh, all right, you're dismissed, and he just stood there for a minute. I was like, hey, do I have to repeat myself? Uh you're dismissed. And then he like kind of just stood there, like that's the kind of thing I'm talking about. Like, he's kind of awkward, but like I'm not complaining too hard, but I'm just saying, I just think he's uh a little socially awkward, and I think both of them kind of work for each other in a way because they're both good-natured people. That's just a little awkward.

SPEAKER_03 55:28

Yeah, that's definitely, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:31

They kill people before, but hey, to be fair, they had to do what they had to do. I mean, the rules are different in the ways play. Like, I mean, is there laws reinforcing that thou cannot murder in this universe at this point? So I'm like, I don't think they're exactly breaking any laws at this point, unless you're like, you know, it's it's kind of like Naruto rules. Like, see, uh, I don't know how big you are on Naruto Tenara, but here's my thing. Like, the thing in Naruto is that as long as you don't kill somebody with the same symbol on their headband, they don't care. They don't care. Like, straight up, like children, straight up children going out on missions, and imagine like things like go wrong and they ain't gonna have to kill another shinobi from another land, and they go back home and be like, Yeah, I killed a bunch of people out on that mission. And I'm like, Okay, cool, here's your compensation.

SPEAKER_03 56:35

Yep, pretty much, yeah. Yep, you know, so long as it's not one of our side, you can kill as many of them.

SPEAKER_01 56:43

As long as it's not one of ours, we don't care.

SPEAKER_03 56:45

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 56:48

Yep. So, yeah, I don't think it doesn't matter, but it it's just one of those things where it's just kind of crazy where like, yeah, they kill people, but like, do anyone care? Like, if anything, it's more like, oh, well, that makes them a little bit more badass now. It's almost like brownie points. I'm like, okay, one gold star for the newbie killers.

SPEAKER_03 57:13

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Pretty much.

SPEAKER_01 57:18

Not like a just imagine there was like a punch card for this shit. Like every 10 kills, you get a free, you get a free new cook.

SPEAKER_03 57:28

Yep, that's yeah. Yep. You know, hey, congrats, you did your job. Here, have a treat. Even if it was, you know, killing someone, it's like, oh, yep, nope, you did good. Like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 57:42

Uh, where was that with all this home? Oh, yeah, uh, Vault 32. Death activates a pit boy from Hank's box and contacts the Enclave to begin phase two, whatever that means. Uh, fighting between Maximus and Death Claws reaches free side where the NCR rescues him. And I like how those people are doing all those best to see like who's gonna win and whatnot. Like, hey, you do know if he loses, we all die, right? And I'm like, Yeah, but let's keep let it ride. Fuck it, we ball.

SPEAKER_03 58:14

Exactly. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 58:17

The ghoul enters the vault tag facility with House's help. Lucy Mercy kills Wells, but is captured by Hank and then saved by the ghoul. Like, the ghoul kind of like shoots him, but don't like vaguely shoots him. It's like, man, you know, I'm gonna leave it up to Lucy what to do with you.

SPEAKER_03 58:37

Yeah, exactly. He's like, This is this is her decision.

unknown 58:40

Right.

SPEAKER_03 58:40

It's up to her to decide what what your fate is.

SPEAKER_01 58:44

Like, yeah, if it was other than me, I wouldn't just have you on your ass um bleeding out on the floor, but that's not my call.

SPEAKER_05 58:51

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 58:52

So Lucy decides, she did something worse. Like, I I want to say it's just like I mean, not worse, but more like, I can't believe she actually did this. But in a way, like she straightened up, finds that, look at that implant chip, and like implants a control chip in her father, who admits he has ties to the enclave before activating his own activating the chip himself and making him lose his memory so that way he uh she don't know too much. So it's almost like saying, like it's almost like saying he kind of died in a in a way to where I'm like he lost all his memory. So I was like, I mean, that's him physically, but that's not Hank anymore.

SPEAKER_03 59:38

Yep, exactly. That that was sort of like, damn, okay, that just happened. And it's like, you know, she was she wasn't quite prepared yet. Like, that was, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:55

You know what I'm saying? Cooper finds his family's cryopods empty and a clue pointing to Colorado, like we said earlier, where it might uh be based on a cancel fallout game. And Maximus and Lucy reunite as the Legion marches into New Vegas. And in a mid-credit scene, Dane retrieves Liberty Prime blueprints from Quintus. Now, imagine Liberty Prime being like a mech, like a like a mech from uh a mecha anime where it's way bigger than a power armor. Like it's big enough to where it's like it rivals some big build and is like I won't say a skyscraper, but it's like fairly big. Yeah, like Gundam.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:44

I didn't, yeah, I didn't realize that. I thought it was just you know a more advanced one. I didn't realize it was a bigger one, huh? No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:52

Liberty Prime is actually pre-war, like they were developing this before all this shit happened, but since the war was pretty much won already, it was like, oh well, we don't need anymore.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:05

So they pretty much recover the blueprint for it. Like, okay, now that uh it comes down to this civil war in the brotherhood, Quintus is like, all right, let's bring up Liberty Prime so that way uh people will know that I'm the one that's in charge now. Like, fuck being Quintus uh uh pacifist, it's now time for Quintus the Destroyer.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:26

Destroyer, yeah. That that line was like, damn, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:30

All right, theory time. What is the likelihood that Steph might be Lucy and Nora's real mother? Because think about it. Hank and and Steph, they got engaged, and I'm thinking like Well, they they got more than engaged, they got married.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:58

Well, hold on, no, no, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait. Sometimes bitch would be crazy like that to where like they will claim, like, oh, well, I'm Hank's wife. I'm like, but like, y'all might oh, okay, tell you what, tell you what. If we get more backstory in later seasons, like following up on all that, then okay, fine. I I get I'll give you that. But my main thing is I'm wondering uh if uh Lucy and Norm's mom was actually a side piece where it's like, eh, you know, we uh not actually I mean, I mean acting kind of crazy though, because like think about uh just imagine like yes, Lucy and Norm, they have their mother, and they and she fucked up to uh Shady Sands once she realized what Heg was up to, but at the same time, there's this whole thing with Steph, and I'm wondering, like, if okay, tell you what, if Lucy and Norm isn't Steph's um children, fine, I can live with that. But all I'm saying is if it does happen like that, I would find that fucking crazy. Because, dog, like, so what? Uh the mother who, you know, like you know what happened to her in season one to where um she didn't survive Shady Sands. She was like practically a ghoul that's like looking really bad. So it's like, so what? Was she like the side piece or what's going on or more like was Dev? Yeah, yeah, they got married supposedly, but like, what's the story behind it like? There's like a gap that I'm missing. So that's why I'm kind of expecting more backstory in later seasons where like there's I feel like there's this gap in between that we need. So that's why I got the theories right now. So I'm like, hold on, wait a minute. So uh, as far as we know, did Lucy and Norm mom die when Steph could be the mother, the real mother? Like, I don't know. I mean I know it's a threats, but like, hey, yo, if it happens, then are you better pick up that phone when I call it?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:16

You know, Hank was saying, you know, when he was talking to Lucy and saying, oh yeah, you know, get back to, you know, Steph is there, and he's like, oh god, Steph, that's gonna be, you know, whatever whatever it was he said about that. But yeah, it's like I I don't think that's the case. I think I think that, you know, the one they think is their mother is their mother.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:37

But you know, you know, never know. They they like throwing in shit like that sometimes, so who knows? It could it could be the case, but I personally don't believe that it is.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:50

Yeah, but then again, I'm like, I'm kinda uh expecting that shot value because like a lot of fucked up shit happens, not just in this series, but in the Fallout games. Like, let me tell you, let me tell you something, Snarl. I'm gonna tell you about only one vault, and this vault was so fucked up that I'm like, wow, just wow. Uh vault 11 that has the most cursed energy I heard of all the vaults, to where essentially it was like based on like elections and whatnot. So it was like almost like a normal vault, except for the fact that there was this one woman who was married to a guy that was running for election for overseer and whatnot. Uh essentially she allowed herself to be whole to be uh holed out so that way her husband can win the election. Come to find out that the husband got murdered and she didn't uh get any compensation for all that. So it's like she went on this murderous rampage to avenge herself. For allowing herself to be used like that, uh, avenging her husband for um getting killed. Like basically, she got fucked over. She got fucked over, the husband got fucked over, things just got messy. All I'm saying is, I'm expecting some bullshit to happen.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:20

Fair, fair.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:23

Because the fact that they were married, but wait a minute, what's going on? The fact that they got married, and then there is Lucy and Norm's mother. And the weirdest part about it is that Hank and Steph were sharing a vault together. Well, you know, a trifecta of vault.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:44

And keep in mind, he didn't say, like, ooh, Steph, like he was trying to run a rape home her. It's more like, ooh, Steph, as they're like, oh man, I had some fun ass time for Steph. He he meant it like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:56

To me, to me, it sounded more like, oh, Steph, I'm gonna have to deal with that in a whole bunch of things. No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:02

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:03

What does it seem like to me?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:05

Yeah, because like he might have to like explain, he might have to explain his uh relationship with Steph, but it was more like in a way to where I'm like, oh well, as we we were like secretly married, but we couldn't say anything. And that's another thing. If Hank and Steph were married, what was the point of Steph getting married to that other guy that got killed?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:29

I I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:33

Like, this the fuck shit I'm talking about. So this opens up a whole bunch of doors for me.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:41

Uh we'll we'll see what happens.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:45

Bruh, like you know what? That's pretty much all I gotta say on Fall of Season 2. I wanna say it's like uh 8.5 for me, honestly. Like it feels like 8.5. Like it wasn't all that gas, like uh season season one to where it's like a whole bunch of stock values happened there. But season two felt like a strong follow-up to what happened in season one. Like not a whole bunch of, I mean, yeah, there's fairly crazy shit, but like I don't know, I won't I won't say it got too crazy, like you know, like it wasn't like season one where essentially like uh you're coming to find out Hank ain't shit, mother is like a ghoul, uh Maximus is taking credit for Bull Davis uh death and all this other shit. He's like, wow, like a whole bunch of shit happening this season. See man, like it was like, eh, you know, everybody had their parts. Um was with Robert House and what's going on with Hank and Vault 31, Vault 33, and all this shit. It felt like everything had its place and what I was like, it was like balanced, like nothing too crazy, but fairly good.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:07

Yeah, yeah, it was, yeah, it was more building on the stuff from season one, um, and you know, get learning more about this world that we now know more about than we did before we started watching this series.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:25

Right, and I also want to point out how, like I was saying earlier, to where I see uh Cooper more as a person than a ghoul, to where Cooper is designed to be the breakout heritage where if you don't care for Lucy or Maximus or even Norm, you're probably watching Fallout for Cooper. And that's just the thing, to where it's like, even though he's this rogue that's like you're kind of wondering how he got like this. And to be fair, he is a fairly good man, like he's a family man that just wanted to do right, like he was out in the war, um, fighting for his country, you know, trying to protect his wife, protect his daughter. You know, he was also a famous actor, so you know, like all around good person. Like, yeah, anything he just got swept into the whole vault tech shit to where it kind of finds out his wife was working for some really shady people that was like planning the end of the world, and investigate, see what the fuck's going on all this, and he just got deep into that shit, and basically he just wants family back, like by any means necessary. Like, yeah, he's a ghoul. Like, I don't know if they're gonna wanna fuck with him with the way he's looking nowadays, you know, kind of like the thing from Fantastic Four. But uh, but uh that's the main thing. Like, he just trying to get his family back, that's all it is. Twitter, like season two helped me endear me to Cooper's where it's like he's just not some heartless rogue, it's like he's a family man just staying on task.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:05

Yep, yep, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:09

Yeah, so it's like it's easy for us to try to follow his story because we can't put your backstory on how he became who he is. Hell, I still want to know exactly how he became the ghoul because like um if obviously he had to survive the fallout, but uh I'm just kind of curious like how exactly he became a ghoul because like not everybody who like um might get exposed to the nuclear shockwaves and whatnot, like they don't just automatically become ghouls, they just get evaporated. So I'm guessing there was like some sort of incident that happened that made him into a ghoul, you know, kind of like Thaddeus to where uh he accidentally took that shit and then come to find out. Oh, he's a ghoul now. So I'm like backstory behind that. Um I want more backstory on Hank. Um I'm pretty much good on Maximus because like that was that was enough um backstory on Maximus going, okay. No, no, no, wait, wait. I guess I still want to know a little bit about how his life was like joining the Brotherhood because like we didn't actually get to see how the well no my back, my back. Because uh the night the paladin showed up and rescued him after the damages and whatnot. So, okay, that makes sense. Yeah, so yeah, no, no, no, we don't need war for our maximum stuff. Yeah, um, I want to see how the whole thing with the Legion plays out. I want to see what happens there in Colorado. There's a whole bunch of things that they can do, but you know what? We just gonna have to see.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:05

Yep. Hopefully it won't take too long.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:10

And uh, Denar, um, you got anything you want to add on to all this before we close this out?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:15

Nah, that was that was about, you know, where it's at.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:21

Yeah. Yep, 8.5. I'm feeling pretty good about that score. Uh hopefully we'll get Fallout Season 3 relatively soon. I don't know if it's currently production. All we know is that, like you said, uh with the post I shared, uh, the actor for Maximus, Aaron Molton, said that there was gonna there was plans for five to six seasons. And what season three is going to be based, could be based on a cancel Fallout game because it's center around Colorado. So I am hoping that we will get Fallout Season 3 late 2027. I'm betting late 2027, right around the time to get Secret Wars.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:14

All right, well, hopefully, hopefully we get some news soon about that. And yeah, but yeah, no.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:26

All right, Tanora, thank you for being on the show with me. And to the listener, I thank you for listening to us to the end. Remember to stay nerdy that great things are coming. Go ahead and have yourself a good day, good afternoon, good evening, good night, whatever time you're listening to this. But ultimately, take it easy. And oh, yeah, remember war never changes.