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Michiko & Hatchin: A Stylish Anime Road Chase Through Crime & Family!

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A prison break kicks off a wild chain reaction, and suddenly you’re riding shotgun through a Brazil-inspired world of favelas, crooked power, and hard choices. We’re reviewing Michiko & Hatchin with our guest Playboy, starting with what grabbed him on sight: that distinct older-school animation flavor, the music, the attitude, and a main character who looks cool enough to be trouble before she even speaks.

From there, we dig into what actually makes the show stick. Michiko is reckless and magnetic, Hatchin is cautious and forced to grow up fast, and their bond feels like found family built under pressure. We talk character design, dub performances (including Monica Rial), and how the series uses culture and atmosphere to keep a simple action-adventure plot feeling rich without leaning on powers or fantasy rules.

Then we get honest about the payoff. The search for Hiroshi Moreno drives everything, so when the reunion lands flat and the abandonment theme hits again, it raises bigger questions about expectations, family dynamics, and whether “the journey matters more than the destination” is satisfying or just an excuse. We also break down Asuko’s cop-and-robber history with Michiko, Satoshi’s Monstro threat, and why the show still earns a strong rating even with a dry ending.

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Intro And Quick Plot Overview

SPEAKER_03

What up, what up? It's the Zone Podcast with another review. Today's topic is Michiko and Hotin. The story takes place in a fictional country of the Amantra, which has cultural traces of South American countries, mostly from Brazil. The first episode, Michiko is introduced as a free-willed sexy diva, quote unquote. Uh, not to say that she's not, but I'm just saying that's literally how they anyways. She escapes from a supposedly inescapable prison fortress while Hodgson is a girl wing her abusive foster family. The two join forces on an improbable escape to freedom in the fix no South American country, uh Diamantra. Uh oh uh I kinda oh, okay, I see why I did. Like it was like it kind of I'm sorry, y'all, but redundancy. But in this um country, she escapes, prison, kidnaps Hannah, uh aka Hotchin, saving uh them, uh saving her both from her abusive foster parents and equally cruel foster siblings in the process. The two are about as opposed as they come, but their fates become intertwined through the connections of Hiroshi Moreno's Hotin's biological father on the run from the police and Hachin's abusive um foster family that unlike they do it, still to find Hiroshi and ultimately discover the freedom. So, Michigo, voiced by Monica Riyall, is an independent woman that just escaped. I know I'm repeating myself over and over. And essentially, she rescues Hotin and claims to know her father who, according to her, was a good man and made her fall in love with him right away. But honestly, I don't get the attraction. Uh Hotchin, voiced by Jay Saxon, uh, young girl who previously lived with a foster family, a victim of abuse and whatnot. Uh, she's hesitant to trust uh Michiko, but they share the same tattoo on their stomachs. And unlike Michiko, Hachin is a more level-headed and serious one. Hiroshi, despite being officially considered dead, uh Michiko believes that he is alive and rescues Hatsin in order to find clues about his whereabouts. And he shares the same tattoo as both Michiko and Hatsin, except on his left shoulder. And they end up finding him at the end, kind of like on some Samurai Shampoo touchdown. Uh Osko Jackson, she's a cop that's pretty much chasing after Michiko, and funny enough, they do have history together being raised up in the same orphanage. And last but not least, we have Satoshi, who's the main op of the series, where he's the one that took over Monstro, the crime syndicate that he and Hiroshi was running together. Um, by the way, he and Hiroshi were also friends and children. And Hiroshi's death just felt like a betrayal, or his stage death felt like a betrayal because obviously they wanted to be like partners like to the two end. And I guess in a way, Hiroshi just wanted out, you know, wanted to be a jerker or whatnot, and so he did not take that very well.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you know what?

SPEAKER_03

Let me go ahead and get Playboy on the show easy.

Guest Reaction And First Impressions

SPEAKER_03

Welcome to the show, Playboy. I am so glad to have you on for this review because not gonna lie, you're the reason why I did this. Like, what did we do as you as soon as you told me that you watched the game? Hey, you know what was going knocked out the way. So, with that being said, uh, how are you feeling about me to a hotel and staying?

SPEAKER_02

Man, I'm glad I started watching it. Like, it really just caught my eye on a random whim, just scrolling TikTok, and then uh, you know, I saw Mijiko. I'm like, damn, who was this nine? I knew I knew it was 90s based off of like the anime, like 90s have like a distinct flavor to it when it comes to animation. And that's and it gave me like this instant reminder of like Cowboy Beep up, Space Cowboy, other stuff back then, you know what I'm saying, animation was and just her being a bed. I'm like, dance, and dance she's the main character, so I really it really caught my interest because I want to know what I miss growing up. Then even uh finding out that she was based off of Aliyah Left, the singer, you know what I'm saying? See a good bit of resemblance in the two now that I looked it up myself. And um, the show itself is actually I do fuck with it. It's it's a little ghetto starting off, but I think that's mainly because of Michigo and the whole uh you know, the whole favelas and the South America aspect of it. But I do like how they get in depth with the culture, like they do capture the culture of South America. They have the language in the show, like on the signs and the papers, you know what I'm saying, with the character, the skin tone. Everything is just the show captures a whole lot of things. So even if you're looking at it from an anime aspect, it's like you can still relate to it, even if you're from, you know, a geographic similar.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, I feel

Michiko And Hatchin Dynamic

SPEAKER_03

that. Alright, let's go ahead and dive into the characters. Uh for starters, Michiko. Uh, I know you talked about her a little bit, but I just gotta say, certified baddie and badass type of woman you will entertain at first, but the relationship might get a little too toxic and maintain long term. Or depending on if you like that, then I'm like, hey, uh, whatever your prerogative is. But uh outside of that, uh, I just thought her dynamic with content dating like Leela and Nani Vodge, you know, from Lilo and Stitch, the way they just be at each other's throat, but you know, they love each other at the end of the day. But um the revolt, uh, excuse me, the uh roles are reverse to where it seemed like Nietzsche's the more reckless and emotional one, meanwhile uh highten is the more responsible, level-headed voice of reason. And that's crazy saying that nowadays, because considering the live action Leo and stitch, where it's like it's so fucked up, where it's like, oh, um, in the original movie, Nani would not give Leo up for nothing. But in the live action, she was like, Alright, go with him, we will.

SPEAKER_02

They do change, they do order a couple of things down in the live action. But I did see the dynamic a lot of times, like between Michigo and Hachan, where they would bump heads and get into an argument and then don't want to be around each other, and literally, like five minutes later, they miss each other. So I thought, okay, I mean, you can kind of already see like once you be around somebody long enough and you go through trials and tribulations and have some. Granted, they had more downs than ups, but you know, I guess that's the beauty in it. They had each other through all that stuff, you know, growing up in that environment, you don't really got nobody. So, you know, you really you lose people, and I guess the situation that they're gone through because Hasha was like 10 years old, and she was still, I ain't gonna lie, she was still holding her own on her own when she was by herself wandering around, you know. So I was just always concerned about her, but she did her thing, you know.

SPEAKER_03

And speaking of which, it's crazy how at the end of the anime, uh, she just ends up being a single mother. I mean, the crazy part is like the dude knocked her up. Uh then three weeks or three months later, like he just leaves and she's like, eh, well, whatever.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and then she kept the baby too. Then she worked all day. I think she set her schedule like from 9 in the morning to 8 p.m. every day.

SPEAKER_03

Shit. I'm like, does she have the baby with her? Because I'm like, can she like afford a babysitter? Like, what's the situation with that?

SPEAKER_02

No, man. I mean, she has wrapped around her like torso sometimes, so I mean, I wouldn't be surprised.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I I would rather believe the um the former because like if she like strap with cats all the time, I don't think she can afford babies if unless you like know somebody who's like, hey, yo, you know what? It's for you. I don't mind um babes and young from time to time. All right, cool. But other than that, I'm like, I just don't see how that's healthy to where you're working all those hours and you still have a child. So like, see, that's some real ghetto shit. Like, I can imagine that real life. That's why that's why I um Puck with Michigo Hot. It feels realistic. It feels like some shit that can actually go down.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, even though it was like uh it wasn't a bad ending, it was still like an ending that's like, uh, I mean, it could have been worse.

Hiroshi And The Thin Payoff

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, speaking of which, let's talk about Hiroshi's bum ass. Because this dude is fault, yeah. All that run around they did for him, and after all that reuniting with Michiko and taking Hatsin with him, uh, and Michiko turning herself in, dude ends up ditching Hansen for a new lover, and Hatsin doesn't even care, anyways. But like knowing him, he's probably gonna ditch the new girl anyways. And I'm like, bro.

SPEAKER_02

The whole season chasing him, finally find him, and then he's only like his his literal reaction to Michiko was like, now what? What are you gonna do now that you caught me? I was like, no fucking way, dude.

SPEAKER_03

Like at this point, it's almost like he it sounds like one of those on again, off again relationships where it's like, you know, hey, listen, dude. Like, we've been doing this song and dance for how many years now? You do this, I do that. We fight, we get back together. So how we how we doing it this time?

SPEAKER_02

I mean, thinking about it though, like everybody who was around Michiko was either getting in trouble or was trying to get away from her. So, granted, for us being on the outside and not going through it, yeah, we'll be like, damn, Michiko's bad. I want her if she was chasing me out. You know what I'm saying? But he might not be wrong for running from her. Like, the bitch is kind of crazy. Bro, like just oh man, I would immediately. He don't justify what he's doing though, but it's like, damn. Right. I mean, I guess that's what that's the that's just the ghetto aspect.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, the way I see it, I'm being unbiased when I say this, where I'm like, I Hirochi, like, clearly is a bum. Like, he just uh non-committal. Like, hell, he didn't even really commit to his um partner uh Satoshi, we're gonna talk about in a minute. Um and then with Michiko, it's like she's a jailbird, like, you know, like she's not completely innocent either. But I'm just saying, like, I mean that aspect, I feel like Michiko's kind of type where uh at first she'll probably be a heart again and whatnot, but then you crack her shell, and then next thing you know, y'all uh get real intimate afterwards, you know, like what are we? And you know, kind of getting real attached all of a sudden. Um, you know, crazy shit like um claiming you as her man now, like after you just you know, like it's one of those things where uh some dudes might have uh a fling, uh, you know, one time thing, and she took it to different levels, and next thing you know, she's hunting you down to the ends of the earth, uh trying to uh figure out where you're gonna be heading out, uh, probably hopping up at your mama's place um when you suspect it. Shenanigans like that.

SPEAKER_02

That's what I'm saying, man. The shit is so relatable because she's a baddie, she's attractive. But you know, everything that shine ain't gold, so that's how they get you. She is like, you know what I'm saying? She nice, nice character, nice to character design. But that be exactly why I don't just randomly shoot my shots at women I find attractive, because I might be inviting something or somebody that just don't, you know, have the things.

SPEAKER_03

I ain't gonna move.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that shit is very important. I and and I don't want to be the reason why I invited this. So I'd rather spend my time isolated and let things happen naturally than me inviting somebody in my space and my time, and they fucking it up and doing this, that and the third. And I can't blame nobody but myself because I went out of my way to talk to a stranger versus somebody I know and comfortable with. And it's all because of looks, and that's how people take advantage because you know what I'm saying, just going off of hooks. You reading a book, I mean you're judging a book by its cover. So there's a lot of things you can take from Michigan Hajjin. Like, you know, but I mean, fucking Hajin's dad being a bum. Like, we can just definitely throw him on a list of bad fathers of anime. Like, how the hell you have a daughter, you you just and that's the thing, it don't really he's such a bum. There's not even much of an explanation behind what he did. At least Gene had an explanation. Granted, it wasn't about it, it wasn't really like that good of an explanation, but he had one. He had good intentions of his son. Like he wanted him to be strong, I guess. This motherfucker just straight up had a child and left. Fate his death. So he even if she was to look for him, he didn't want her to find him. So it's so it's like, damn, you know, even when they reunite, I'm thinking at the end of the episode, if they reunited, maybe he wasn't running from them, maybe he was just moving along as a wanderer, and he was just, you know, so happened to be crossing, just leaving. You know what I'm saying? So, but that ain't the case. He's just a bum wherever he goes. Even his best friend didn't know where he was. His last lover, he left them. You don't he don't sit around nowhere, you know what I'm saying? He's a he's a rolling stone. She's a rolling stone, man.

SPEAKER_03

Nah, now that you mention it, it's crazy how everybody who suspected him of actually dying, she was the only one that's like, um, something don't feel right. I feel disturbed in the force. I don't this this won't sit right with me. I don't think he he's dead for real. I don't think y'all tried hard enough. Let me go investigate. Like, you know, once again, it's like um when some women be really liking you, they will be doing like FBI level investigations on you. Like, just trying to uh figure out where you're at and all that, all your information and whatnot. Like uh something about you is not sitting right, then they are gonna be like top class detectives about it. And I'm like, bro, Jesus Christ. Yeah, and they get real petty too. Yeah. Oh, speaking of which, uh, another baddie that we need to talk

Asuko And The Cat And Mouse

SPEAKER_03

about. Uh Osko Jackson, like, she grew up in the same orphanage as Michiko, uh, and also got a score to sell with her, but she now became a police officer and was responsible for Michiko's uh arrest 12 years ago. But, you know, once again, uh kind of the same thing with Hirosi, where it's like this whole uh cat and mouse thing to where, you know, Michiko runs, Asuko chases after her, she almost cats her. And, you know, because you know, they go way back. She's like, all right, get the fuck out of here. But the next time I catch you, I swear to God, I'm turning you in. But you know, it's like the same thing over and over. Even if Osko actually take her to jail like she did in the uh ending, it's like, okay, meet you broke out again. And I'm like, oh, I'm gonna take out this bitch again, and we're gonna do this all this all over again. You know like it's almost like having that one best friend that you can't stand. But it's like it's like you hate them, but also it's like you kind of fuck with them at the same time. Yeah, it reminds me of somebody, I know. Yeah. But

Satoshi And Monstro’s Shadow

SPEAKER_03

uh, last but not least, we're gonna get to uh Satoshi now. So this this whole, yeah, this whole life. By the way, I kinda, once again, I do appreciate the representation to where it's like we got more uh dark-toned, dark-skinned characters in this uh more so. And I'm like, okay, y'all kinda do this for the culture, for the hood. I'm like, uh, but yeah, for the most part, Satoshi, he's like the main ox. Uh he's assuming control of the crime syndicate uh monstro. And he and Hiroshi have been friends since childhood. Uh Hiroshi once saved his life from the original leaders of the Monstro, and all throughout the series, he's shown Satoshi has been harsh, brutal, and vicious, rarely showing mercy to those interfered with uh his plans and whatnot. How are you feeling about Satoshi though?

SPEAKER_02

Uh he first at first he I didn't really like. I'm not gonna say I like him, but at first I kind of wasn't like caring for his character, but then I guess the more he got involved, uh you know, he's he grew on he grew to me to be like if you would have one in the show, the main antagonist. Like you know what I'm saying, like he was like the top dog, like if you know he was the hitman of hitmans, you know what I'm saying? Like he was the bad guy always getting away, always getting his way. You know what I'm saying? Uh he he he was a decent character for, you know what I'm saying? He wasn't too bad. That's why I say if you even want to call him an antagonist, he just, you know, was a part of it of his environment, environment just like everybody else. He just does a boss of the monstros. And he real thug though, man. I ain't gonna lie, he's kind of like a male version of Michigo, just a little bit more hardcore, because he's gonna pull a trigger and he ain't scared to pull the trigger or drown somebody or get his or do whatever you gotta do to get his way. That's just how he is. So for him to even, you know.

SPEAKER_03

Nah, you know what's crazy? Uh he's he's the kind of guy that will pull gun to your head on somebody. Like, and that's funny because uh ever since I've been watching Rap So Petty doing his hood though, like Gunty Head just so fun to me now. I just like just imagine Satoshi just pulling a gun out and be like, Gunty head, name five Eminem songs from his first album.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he that type of motherfucker, and he'll probably still shoot them. He'll probably shoot you just for naming a song that had a feature of somebody. I didn't say featuring, I just Eminem.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, exactly. I was I was kind of fucking one, but hey, like you said, like they had to have some sort of antagonist to force aside from uh, you know, good lumps trying to stick him up and whatnot every now and then.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because Osiko, I didn't see Osiko as, you know, an antagonist, even though she wasn't on the opposing side. Like that's what I'm saying. Like, she was like, you know what?

SPEAKER_03

You know what?

Style, Dub Love, Classic Comparisons

SPEAKER_03

Uh hear me out. Uh do you remember way back in the day when Lupon the third was a thing? Yeah. He she reminds me of that cop guy. Oh, he running after Lupon and Arga. Like, yeah, like he's on opposite side, but like every now and then they kind of uh collaborate and whatnot, but it's like they still do the whole Yight Mouth cop and robber uh dynamic. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's why I kind of that's why I really fought with it. Because when you look at it, Knit's tool, Samurai, Champlu, and Cowboy B Pop, you can like put them all in the same category in a sense, but they're all unique in their own way, granted. You know, they each got different, you know, concepts, different ideas, different plots, different, you know, um, main character ideas and designs, you know. So with Michigo being a female and not in Japan and you know chasing love, but still being a badass behind it. Like it's not even a romance anime, but romance is like the basis of it. It's the reason we have Michigo and Hatchin is because Michigo is going through all of this to find, you know, Hatchin's dad. Damn it for no reason. Like he broke her out of the orphanage. Took her on his whole cross to South America chase, goose chase. Don't even know if this man is alive for sure, but she just believes he is. I mean, it's it's definitely. I'm glad I watched it, but it's just crazy how I missed it. Like growing up, I've never heard of it at all. I've never heard of the show.

SPEAKER_03

That's funny because like I knew about it when it first came out. And first time I watched it, I watched it subbed. And it was decent, but re-watching it nowadays in dub, I appreciate it much better. In fact, uh Michiko's English um voice actress, uh, I'm trying to think, uh, what was her name again? I I had it in my notes. Uh it was, oh yeah, Monica Riol. Like, legendary voice actress, by the way. And honestly, that's how I want to imagine what Michiko sounds like when she be yelling at it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I like her. I like the voice actor and that. She definitely delivered the way she talked, accent, like, yeah, she she definitely gave what Michigo with Gil. Like, she wasn't, she wasn't no soft woman, but she was definitely woman enough. Like she was she wasn't I wouldn't say she wasn't, yeah, she wasn't lady like she was just a woman.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Bad ass woman.

SPEAKER_03

It's like yeah, like you said, um, she's not soft, but at the same time, she's still fairly feminine, especially with the drip. Like, look, look, look, look. Like, every time, like, she, like every other episode, like she don't wear the same shit like every episode. Like, that's what I kind of appreciate to where she always got like some new drip on and it looks good on her.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, they did that for sure. But like, you know, that anime design, like, that's that's that's a good detail to put in there. I like how she, I ain't gonna lie, I paid a lot of detail to her shades. I don't know, she ain't a real beautiful character. I would look at her hell her like earrings and shit. She was a nice drawn character.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's like one of those things where uh it's crazy because uh normally you won't care except when like you know, when the drip is real crazy, like hey, yo, hold on, I gotta do a trip tip because like you got that shit on. Like, you know, like watching Power Rangers where it's like where there's like uh Tommy Oliver as the Green Ranger, uh Trent Mercer as the white Dino Ranger. It's like, hold on, hold on, wait a minute. It's kinda gone look icy real quick. Like, let me look at her real quick.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it looked kind of hard. Hold on. Yeah, it just did look tough. Everybody wanted to be the white one just because of the outfit. Yeah. But now, yeah, she was dripped out though. I give it to Michigo. She was definitely, she was definitely given she was slam.

SPEAKER_03

But yeah, like you said, uh the series was given cowboy bobs and samurai shampoo vibes. Uh, it has style, culture, action, suspense, drama, emotion, splash of comedy, kind of like a spaghetti western, almost given in uh trigon vibes, but not so 80. It's like it definitely holds up visually and musically. Uh, with the great cast, simple plot, not complicated, but um, but only criminal activity that our elite characters get entangled in. That's the main thing. Like, it's just mainly like criminal shenanigans, but uh plot is not that deep, which honestly some stories are better for. Like, don't be like Seven Deadly Sins where you had something and you just kept scaling it up, scaling up up until a point where by the end of it, it got so convoluted. I'm like, I don't even know what the fuck um seven daily sins is even about anymore after like season four. I swear. So sometimes a simple story is good enough. Oh, go ahead.

SPEAKER_02

That's what I do like once I started to like watch anime a lot more. Cause you know, we grew up on Dragon Ball, Yu-Yu Hospital Show, Bleach, you know, Naruto, One Piece, and everything that had powers and action and destroying, you know what I'm saying? So it's it's nice to get something that don't have none of that. Like, it's just straight human beings going through human being lives, and it's still like animated and still in a way that you know it delivers just as much as those do. Maybe not as action-packed, but it is it still leaves like a mark, you know what I mean? Like it's still one of those. It's good enough to be up there with those animators, despite not having spirit bombs or rock singles or bonkai, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_02

Well, power level in general.

Ratings, Themes, Final Takeaways

SPEAKER_03

I think the main problem is, and it's crazy because uh recently, and it's crazy because I'm gonna talk about it with the nerdy news when we bring that back. Uh recently, a fan was disappointed when they found out that Bayonetta, the character from uh the Bayonetta games, uh in the third um game, she hooks up with Buddy, uh, what's his name, Luca. And the fan thought that she was gonna be like LGBT. But the creator had to step out and be like, uh, you're dumb. Uh stop trying to predict the creator uh in the story. And that's the kind of thing. Like, that's the kind of thing that pissed me off a little bit. Because sometimes fans are gonna have these expectations that it's like so high up in the sky that by the time it plays up the way it plays out, they get super disappointed. But I'm like, what were you expecting? Like, you expect like some high-in shit that uh you probably see off uh Naruto, B, uh Dragon Ball C, that's the kind of thing. It's like so that's why um even though I'm sorry, but the crazy thing is, with my dress up darling, I gave that the five-star treatment because it's a perfect story from a rom-com perspective. Because like it's not that deep, it's more like just about a cosplay girl and a guy who like into making dolls, but he's also kind of good at sewing. So they kind of work together on cosplay and whatnot, and she developed feelings for him, and maybe he might have feelings for her. Like uh, I I'm kind of getting like I I know I just did the review too, but uh, whole point being is that the plot wasn't that deep, but they had a lot going on to where I'm like, okay, like they put a lot of quality into everything else, such as uh visually it looks beautiful. Uh they also had a bunch of insight on cosplay and making like sewing whatnot. So that way, if you're interested in sewing uh your cosplay, they give you like a little bit of perspective on that, and I appreciate that. So it's like you're kind of learning why you're enjoying the show. That's what I kind of like about my dress of door. Also, it was kind of funny. Uh it didn't have a whole lot of tropes or cliches that pissed me off. It kind of felt like they were actually trying to be about something, and I really noticed that. So that's why I gave it a five-star treatment because it's a five-star ROM call. Now, with Michigan Hawkins, I want to say for as a action adventure drama series, I would honestly give an 8.5 out of 10. Like, it's really good. It is really good. My main thing is truth be told, it just felt like the ending could have been a little bit better, or better yet. I felt like the ending was a little anti-pramatic in a way. Like, yeah, there was a whole thing with Satoshi, but I felt no, it it wasn't the ending. It was the payoff. It was the payoff that kind of made me mad because one thing, Hiroshi just fucking off. Uh second thing is with Hawking and uh her baby daddy also doing the same thing pretty much. And even though, yes, I know it was more about the journey than the destination, but by the time you actually got to the destination, it's like I don't know what to say. Like, see, at least with Cowboy Bebop, everybody went to their own devices, like uh Ed, Ayn, Faye, Jet, they all went to do their own things. Fight had to handle bitches um and the whole Julia plot line. That was good on his own. Uh Samurai Shampoo, okay, they found a Samurai that smelled up some flower. Turned out to be Foo's father. And even though she didn't really care for her father, like ultimately they finally found him. So they were like, all right, well, we'll just go off to our own corners and whatnot. And I'm like, yeah, once again, you just kind of don't expect an ending like that. But at the same time, it at least it actually felt like an ending. Like with Michiko and Hatshin, okay, I like the little part where they reunited at the very end. That that pretty much was the saving race for the ending. But other than that, it just felt like what was the point? Like, yeah, once again, the journey, the journey was the good part, the best part about it, but the destination just made me feel like what was the point? Like, where was the payout? Like, it just doesn't feel right. But then again, not all stories play out the same way. Like, I mean, not all stories play out the way you expect, and that's why some people might be disappointed. But then again, nowadays, I can enjoy things for what they are. And for me, that's why I give it the 8.5. Like, see, uh, if I really hated it, I would probably give it like a six. But no, uh, I would say 8.5 sounds about right because I did enjoy uh all the stuff that was going on leading up to the ending. And the ending, I'm like, you know, well, uh, I can't say I really like it that much, but it also makes sense to each character. Like, it would make sense for Michiko to turn herself in after all that. It would make sense for uh Hiroshi to be Hiroshi. Like, it would make sense for uh Michiko to eventually break out so she can find Hansin again. And I did not expect Hansin having a kid just before the baby daddy leave. I didn't expect that, but she's she's cool with it, like she don't care about the baby daddy or her father um dipping out, but it it kind of does because you know my main thing is like I kind of advocate for healthy family dynamics, and it's crazy how a lot of I can't put this. It's crazy how the way things are nowadays in the dating market can trace back to how you were brought up, and a lot of folks are being brought up without either the mother or the father or both for that matter, and they just have this weird dynamic going on, or they might get entangled with people that they can be entangled with, and that messes them up to a point where, like, I don't even know what I don't want to imagine what they might be like being a parent, just to have that trauma being inherited by the child, and then the child goes on to probably be no different from the parent, and then the cycle just continues, you know what I'm saying? Like that's why I kind of really fuck with the show because it's realistic, but I think I might bump this up to a nine because like it's just crazy how the show it is really good, but at the same time, I'm just not really fucking with the ending that it makes sense, but I don't know. I just got mixed feelings about the ending. But yeah, that's all I gotta say. I I'm done yapping on your thing on.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, no, I I feel what you were saying about um because basically with the ending, I feel the same way because what you were saying earlier about like how some fans will get their expectations too high and then you know get let down. But see, with this show, when it kind of like builds up towards the ending because this whole thing is looking for this man. You got characters popping up that we never see again, they only pop up for a few episodes leading to him. So, you know what I'm saying? There's a whole lot of buildup to Roshi Moreno's, and we finally get to him, and it's so dry and so pale, and nothing, you know what I'm saying? He then he Michigo hands Hachin over to him, flies away, you know what I mean? So it's like, damn, I'm thinking that was like gonna be the end of it when they were supposed to be together, you know what I'm saying, and then just for him to leave her, it was like, damn. So now Hachin is really alone. But you know, she ain't gonna find her way back to Michigo. But it looks like Michigo had a plan on coming to her, anyways, since she was sending stuff to her address.

SPEAKER_03

No, hold on. Let me talk about that for a minute because it's funny how like she it took her a while for her to piece together that was Michiko sending her shit.

SPEAKER_02

Like the first boss, like, yeah, the first you couldn't tell from the first boss.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Like this, I'm sorry, Hotin, but I'm like, somehow. The bra didn't give it away? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, he it just felt like how how can he missed the ball uh dropped the ball on that because you're saying that oh this uh mysterious package uh showed up and you don't know who it's from. I'm like, who else would be sending you packages? Who all do you know would send you packages? The answer ain't Hiroshi. Yeah. I wouldn't bet uh on her foster parents either.

SPEAKER_02

Hell no, it ain't nobody in the show to be honest, bro. Nobody was fucking with her.

SPEAKER_03

So I'm like, who else? I mean, the guy from um the restaurant that you worked at, you think he'd send you packages? Like you you pretty sure you would probably put his name on it if it was. Oh, who knows?

SPEAKER_02

They gotta give her some candy. She probably just uh in denial, man. She no, you know, tell us you probably thought Michigo got locked up or dead, some shit. Man, you know Michigo.

SPEAKER_03

Nah, hold on now. When she actually did open the boxes, though, like all the clothing, all the like the um quote unquote adult clothing, you know, like the bras and whatnot. I'm like, who else would wear that?

SPEAKER_02

You know what I'm saying? The box gave so many signs, so like I would have immediately thought, like, but there's no way. And then it's the fact that it's T U, so it got your name on it, so they know you.

SPEAKER_03

And I'm trying to think, how old was Hottin at that point? I want to say at least 18. Like, like, look, look, look. If you get knocked up before 18, 16, or whatever the legal age for you to be knocked up, I'm like, hey, look, like, like, that's it, that's kind of a damn thing. Like, I I'm not trying to judge too hard, but like, wow, like you kind of had a child a little too young. But um, that's not the point. Um, yeah, like, who else could it have been? Um, you being uh however old you are, and you didn't think um there could be only one person that I don't know. I just feel like there was like a lapse in brain power there. Yeah, she had it all. You know, she went through a lot of shit.

SPEAKER_02

Working all day, gotta take care of the baby. I ain't gonna lie. She was she had a decent mindset of sanity to be doing that. She sounded happy to be working all day. I sound like hell nah. Eight to nine? Or nine, I mean nine to eight.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, listen, like I worked hours like that, and let me tell you, that's what it hurts.

SPEAKER_02

Every day.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's the main thing. Like every day, no, no, no. Listen, listen. Like, if you're working like nine to eight, that's 11 hours. Assuming that if you get like one hour lunch, and I can't believe I'm trying to add logic, but uh uh, if you get like a one-hour lunch in between, that's really 10 hours a day that you're working. Um then even then you only have to work like four days, and that's a full, that's full time right there. So I'm like, what you doing putting on the overtime for? Like, chill out.

SPEAKER_02

Be where you're gonna be able to do it. They in South America, they in a third world country. Oh, right, right. Yeah, we might not have those relations, but you know, south the Brazilians might watch this show and be like, Yeah, I worked those hours. I know.

SPEAKER_03

Oh man, I forgot about that so quick. I'm like, oh yeah, it's different down there. Yeah. I forgot to be waiting.

SPEAKER_02

Like she was. You know, or yeah, like a could be worse.

SPEAKER_03

Like uh, hey, like, I don't know how it works down there, but like up here, like you you're a one phone call away from CPS knocking on your door.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, um yeah, no. Uh no, aside from that, I I had to give it a nine. About an eight and a half, nine. Only because of the ending was so dry. It kind of like blue balled me up until that point. Like, it got me in so anticipated. I really had more, I ain't gonna lie, I genuinely have more expectations for Hiroshi. So that's the only thing. I just felt like I got shitted on towards it.

SPEAKER_03

It's only like bro, wasn't like, uh I'm gonna be honest with you, if they didn't say that Hiroshi and the baby daddy dipped, I would have completely glossed over all that. Like, I mean, I don't know, like she can have the baby she wants to, but like, I just I don't know. It's almost like one of those things where I kind of wish he didn't say that, you know?

SPEAKER_02

Because like why she even had to have a baby dog, like that's what beat. Yeah, like come on, man. Then you leave after three months, like, how she ain't a bad person, bro.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But no shit happens. That's not new. Yeah, fortunately. But other than that, nah, it's a great show. I definitely like this. I'd wh I'd watch it again. I wouldn't mind watching it again.

SPEAKER_03

Oh yeah. I feel like it would be like the perfect time to watch it like in the middle of the summer. Like, I want to say like it's a perfect summer afternoon type anime.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you can definitely binge it in like a day or two. Yeah. You can really watch it in the whole day if you just, you know, like yeah, that's what I did.

SPEAKER_03

That's honestly what I did. Like, I picked a day off that hand, and I'm like, hey, you know, I'm just gonna watch. This is gonna be my whole day just watching the show.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's a good show, man. I like the transitions that it made, like in the commercial breaks, when it brings up the show, meet you going hazard, and every episode it got like a different way of bringing up.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, like that type of part. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I miss when shows did it, but only when they had like kind of like saucy, like when they're like saucy about it. Like uh, I want to say a perfect example would be like uh Kotechio, Hitman and Born. Uh I know it's kind of like a niche anime, like not a whole lot of people like really got into that one, but like honestly, uh sometimes with um the transition cards, that's what I meant to say. Um with the transition cards, I'm like, okay, I kind of like this. Like I'm kind of cool with this transition. Uh same thing with bleach. Like, sometimes bleach have those transition cards. But yeah, um, with that being said, Playboy, I do thank you for being on the show with me. Uh on that note to the Listener, go ahead and have yourself a good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good night. But ultimately, stay nerdy. Remember that great things are coming. We're gonna go ahead and zone up out of here. But you take it easy.

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