Netflix's Devil May Cry (Season 2): When A Demon Story Feels Uncomfortably Human

The first ten minutes of Devil May Cry Season 2 tell you exactly what kind of ride you’re on: a full-on war zone, a mission with bodies on the floor, and a plan that only works if somebody plays distraction while somebody else slips in for the real objective. We had to talk about it, so we brought on Kofi Yatsu and went deep on why Season 2 feels bigger than Season 1 in scale, while still keeping that Devil May Cry identity of style, attitude, and fast-moving plot twists.

We walk through the major story beats, from Arius and Ouroboros chasing the Arcana pieces to the way Dante, Lady, and Vergil keep getting pulled into the same collision course. Along the way, we get into the details that matter to longtime fans of the Devil May Cry games: what the show keeps canon, what it remixes, and why the remixes often help. Our favorite thread is Vergil, because this version leans harder into persuasion and ideology instead of making him a one-note “kill Dante” villain, and that makes their dialogue feel like two brothers arguing through trauma, pride, and legacy.

We also keep it honest about the nitpicks: moments that strain believability, power-set choices we wish the anime used more (yes, we’re looking at summon swords), and why some fights don’t quite hit that “style meter” feeling we expect. Then we close with ratings, Season 3 hopes, and the big question the season leaves hanging: who’s actually left to run things after the dust settles?

If you’re watching the Devil May Cry Netflix anime and you want a Season 2 review that mixes recap, canon talk, and real critique, hit play. Subscribe, share this with a friend who grew up on DMC, and leave us a review with your rating: did Season 2 top Season 1 for you?

Transcript

Welcome And Season 2 Setup

SPEAKER_03 0:01

What up, gang? It's the Zone Podcast back at the game with another review. Today's topic is Devil May Cry Season 2. Man, listen. Just when I thought I loved season one, season two made me remember why I love season one. Because this season was great. And I am so glad to have Kofi Yatsu on for this review. So let's just go ahead and zone in on it. So, uh, I'm gonna uh read off just a few notes and then I'm gonna ask you some questions about how you're feeling about it so far, Kofiasu. So bear with me.

War Plan And Arcana Heist

SPEAKER_03 0:44

Uh so while many soldiers gave their lives to fight Mundus and his forces, it was all a distraction to get the big bad off the throne so that Lady can sneak in and extract the Arcana chalice embedded in the seat. She is later promoted to commander of Dark Kong's entire military division by Arius, the CEO himself, before she attempted to quit. Arius plots to use the four-piece of Arcana to kill Mundus, even instigating Dante's reunion with his twin brother. Speaking of which, Virgil, the No Angelo, as they say in uh Mackay, slays some demons while saving a human girl serving as a messenger for horror boros, derived from Argos the Chaos, who serves as the direct opposition to Mundus. After the double agent Jester, which by the way, I'm gonna get to just a minute. But he comes to visit, Virgil suggests crossing over to the Earth Realm to retrieve the Chalice for the Mundus and to kill Arias, who serves the demon lord of chaos. Anything you want to add on so far?

War Sequence Praise And Tone

SPEAKER_00 2:06

Um nothing as far as for pre-breakdown, and I'll honestly by this point it was fantastic. That whole war, that that whole like war sequence of them doing the front lines was absolutely beautifully done. It it felt like a Call of Duty war game. Like it I mentioned when we talked about season one that the person who wrote this story absolutely loved Devil McCry. And I feel like they absolutely play a lot of Call of Duty as well, too. Because you see how that really works out. Like you see the characters that you're like, this person's gonna do this. Oh no, they got caught up and died, and this one winds up trying to protect us and winds up being the one that didn't want to be there, that constantly kept getting protected, has to be the one to step up and deliver the final blow. Because they were just trying to get past that one demon, just so that way they can get further in. And it's like it was so beautifully done, it felt like watching a war show. It literally felt like again, like I was playing Medal of Honor, like I was playing Call of Duty. I was like, holy crap, this actually feels great, and it didn't even have to do the first person before that, like it just felt really good on how they did it. Now, granted, it felt terrible because war is bad, and that's also what I mean by felt good. Like, I'm not saying that I am I love war, I'm not saying that it's one of those I like how stuff is well made, well written, and that's what I liked about it. There you go. Fair enough, fair

Dante Returns And Vergil Appears

SPEAKER_00 3:37

enough.

SPEAKER_03 3:37

Now, Ari is Dante unthawed from Cryo State to assist Darthcom with his relationship with Lady persuading his cooperation. After getting his sword, coat, and twin blickies, Dante watches Virgil pop up on TV to set the record straight about Mundus and the demon realm while exposing Ouroboros for torture and experimenting on McCain's. Bro, I swear to god, bro, even got the Homelander treatment with a round of applause when he did that shit. Virgil defeats Dante and Spared Lady, you know, they fought in. Honestly, I I kind of wish the fight was a little bit saucier than that, but I understand that they were they're not supposed to kill each other. Like, yeah, Virgil would try to kill Dante, but like for the sake of narration, it would just wouldn't be alright if they just straight up just try to kill each other. Okay. Obviously, they're gonna like try to spare each other if given the opportunity, you know, brothers and whatnot. But Virgil did beat Dante and Spirit Lady and some cowardly dark comm soldiers to get Aryus. And I swear I loved it when Virgil was going down that elevator, and then those soldiers were like ready for him, right? They were shooting at him, and then he was just blocking all those bullets. And then instead of killing them, he was like, Alright, if any of y'all want to leave, and then they didn't say, Hey, you didn't say nothing about words, let me get in the elevator. But, anyways, Arius, he knew President Hopper sold him out, and revealing his hand, Arius fights Virgil, uh, but escapes after losing an arm. He creates a cybernetic arm for himself and helps Baines expose Hopper as a traitor, leading to a shootout where the soldier and former football star Tom Remington kills the president. Anything you want to add on, Kogukatsu.

Brothers Rivalry And Sword Details

SPEAKER_00 5:52

I do actually. Um, so one thing I do like about this part when you mentioned about Virgil and Dante fighting, is that's one of the biggest, really biggest changes in this from the original series as well. But it does help out the plot point and it kind of does help out Virgil's character a little bit. In the original games, Virgil is always trying to kill Dante, and he fails at it because he's just not he's not as good as Dante is, and I like how they did get a chance to explain that in the show when it was like one of those things like it's not that Virgil isn't good, Virgil is very fantastic in things, and it's not like oh he's slow to pick up on things. No, Virgil has a very good taste, it's just the fact that Dante is like has that natural instinct to him, like you know, Dante got that dog in front.

SPEAKER_03 6:41

Virgil said Virgil literally said that I just had to work twice as hard to be better than yeah, not even the better and even better to catch up.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

That's one of the biggest things is always to catch up because whereas Virgil, keep in mind their swords differences as well. Too one of the biggest differences in that is that you have Dante who has a long sword. Now, granted, you are supposed to train to kind of be able to use a long sword, but a long sword is pretty straightforward, it cuts forward and back. It's a long, it's sharp on both sides, it's pretty straightforward and into it, but it's just also kind of heavy, so you have to be careful how you how you wield it. Whereas Dante wields it like it's nothing with one hand, it's the easiest thing for him to wield. Whereas Virgil, the Yamato, is a samurai sword, instead of the rebellion being the long sword. A samurai sword, in order to be able to properly use it, to be able to use it to master speed, you have to actually practice with it. It's not a sword that yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:39

Hold on. Um, I'm sorry for interrupting, but uh tell us your realization that you said on TikTok.

SPEAKER_00 7:48

Oh, hold on. Yes, yes. But hold on, but yes, Yamato, you have to actually really train into it. It really speaks into the character that um Virgil actually always has to be training, he's always practicing. Anytime Virgil's by himself, he's practicing. Anytime Dante's by himself, he's usually lazing around eating pizza, but whenever they fight each other, they're always evenly matched. It's like Virgil's only always just catching up.

The Inuyasha Parallel Realization

SPEAKER_00 8:17

So, I realized, yes, let me move around TikTok about this because I was like, wait a second, I did not realize I've been a big fan of Devil May Cry for a long time since I was a kid. And it never occurred to me that literally Dante and Virgil is damn near the same as Inyasha and Stromaru.

SPEAKER_03 8:38

Honestly, it's a bad story for me to realize, wait a minute. They both two brothers of human mother, and I'm like, hey, yo, this sounds like Inyasu to me.

SPEAKER_00 8:52

The difference is that Stromaru and Yasha are not twins, that's the only real difference. But other than that, you have but technically, um, but Virgil is still the older twin, so he's still Dante's still a little brother to him. So it's technically still in a sense, but the older brother is the one that's trying to fully embrace the demon side from their father's side. But the thing about it is both their dads, I mean both of them and both uh twins or both both families. The dad, although he's a demon, rebelled against the other demons to protect the humans. However, the oldest brother wants to fully embrace the demon side of him and abandon humans away from what the father did, because they consider the father a weakling for doing so, which is what led them to either die or be captured. Because Inyashi's father died protecting humans. And depending on how you follow things, because as far as we know, into this into the anime, we still don't know what happened to Sparta. However, in um Devil May Cry the video games, Devil May Cry 5, it is confirmed that Sparta is still alive, he's just been captured by Mundus and is being tortured. Every single time you go through a certain type of power-up in Devil May Cry 5, you want Dante winds up mentally teleporting to this to this like middle um this voided world, like this nether world in a sense. Not necessarily the demon realm, but this place where gravity doesn't properly make sense, things aren't properly filling together, and is where you're supposed to practice really kind of using your abilities. No, sorry, I'm thinking that as more in DMC, um Devil May Cry um Capcom version, not Capcom, the um Ninja Um Studios version. But it's still the same thing for Devil May Cry and um as well, too. But they did confirm that even in the original series, yeah, Sparta is alive, he's just in Mundus' um dungeons being tortured. So then there's a big difference between this Mundus as well as also the Mundus in anime. Anyway, back to the comparison. But yeah, so Sparta's captured because of the fact that he he was so willing to protect the humans and he made a barrier to kind of protect the humans from the demons, which is also the same thing that happened. Like when you get to the very end of Inyasha, you do find out that was also a very similar thing that happened with Inyasha's Institute Roman's dad, too. He created a special way for to try to help. He was actually one of the main reasons that the sacred Shikong jewel was created to allow the humans to be able to fight off the demons, was actually because of Inyasha's and Sus Roman's dad as well, too. And you're like, holy shit, it's the same goddamn story.

SPEAKER_03 11:39

Now that I think about it, it almost reminds me of that in Xenobil.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

I would say, yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_03 11:46

Actually, but that one even is slightly different into that one because they're while they're fighting to be like yeah, but it's always like the older twin that's like oh oh well, okay. Keep in mind, like I said, uh with any yachts and somewhere, they're not twins, but it seemed like it's always the older brothers, like, oh man, how come you inherited dad's powers?

SPEAKER_00 12:10

That part, and it's like I feel so upset about it, but then it's also one of those ones, and keep in mind, it's also the same thing, too. The Yamato's ability is to be able to cut through dimensions, to be able to cut through rifts. It's also known as a protector sword as well. Too the thing about the Yamato is that it was not designed to actually harm people in a sense. It it now Virgil was able to it does, it's exactly 10 Sega. That's the thing about it. Whereas the Rebellion has the ability, its main power is to slice through anything. The 10th Saga. Oh wait, wait a minute. Gifted these gifted these swords from their demon deck, and I'm like, it's the same shit. Wait a second. It didn't occur to me into that. And I was like, wait a second, hold up. Holy shit, this is the same thing.

SPEAKER_03 13:09

I feel like I need to do some research to see the timeline of when any. I mean, I know any other was like produced before Devil May Cry, but I need to see if the uh original, the game creator. Are are you an Indiana fan by chance? Like, I'm not curious. I just want to ask. I feel like the guy never no, see, here's one of the things that I love about this anime, and I didn't realize it until Virgil was like if you not like season one where it's like the illusion of Virgil, but when Dante and Virgil finally link up and they're talking about, oh, how Dante hid when their mother died, or how Virgil was too powerless and all that shit, and how Virgil's moving, how Dante's moving, all that shit. I love the dialogue, the exchange of words between them. It feels like an actual conversation where I'm like, they're both on each other's bumper when it's like, uh, you know, how Virgil's like, how fucking dare you go up against your own people? And I'm like, hey, yo, like, maybe you got it all wrong. It's like Mundus is a bad guy. Like, no, no, no, the guy you're working for is a bad guy. And it's like, I mean, you're both correct, but that's beside the point. It's like they were just on each other's asses every time they talked to each other for the most part. And I just love that because I was like, it was just so snappy, and ooh.

SPEAKER_00 14:46

But yeah, it is crazy. But that's also one of the things you just love about the show, too. So yeah, um, but that was also one thing into it. But as far as his story, Virgil's always trying to kill Dante in the original story. It's only like in um in DMC with the Ninja um got Ninja Theory when they had made the game, that's when they changed that for them to where that one Virgil was trying to reason with his brother as why it is that he should join him. And then in the anime, it's pretty much about the same. Virgil is he's trying to convince Dante to come to the side. He doesn't want to kill Dante. It's not even just like a promise or anything like that, it's just that he still cares and loves his brother. Whereas Virgil in the game, he feels that killing Dante would it solidify that him killing his human side and fully embracing his demon side. He feels he actually needs to kill Dante because that's the only way for him to say, I am no longer half human, half demon, I am full demon now, because demons will kill their own brother. As I mean, look with Mundus. Technically, Mundus considers um, but in the game, not so much the anime, but in the games, Mundus considered Sparta like a brother to him, in a sense, as far as how close they were, and when they fought against each other in the game, Mundus now has Sparta just being tortured. Um, the original Demon King, um, our God Argal, um, Mundus looked up to him and kind of revered and respected him, and still wound up killing him because he wanted more power. It's one of those things as far as in demons. In demons, blood, care, relations, those emotions matter absolutely nothing. And which is why some of the lower demons who embrace those emotions are considered weaker and get tortured and stuff. So that's just kind of one of those things that's part of Virgil's development, is the fact that even though he's Mundus' right hand man as Nello Angel, he still carries the ideals that the lesser demons have, which is one of the reasons why so many of the other higher demons are so pissed off. For one, that like we know you're the son of Sparta, that automatically makes us pissed off at you. But secondly, you seem like you're ruthless, but you're not, you still care for the lesser beings, which you shouldn't if you're trying to say you're a full-fledged demon. We don't believe that type shit, and that's where it's it's so much that comes to play into that because this verge, this um version of Virgil, is the same design, and I almost want to say power set, because the only thing I'm pissed off about season two is that Virgil used his summon swords only one time, but he doesn't just summon them and they just like they just do it like intermittently because he's able to mentally control up like several swords at the same time. He never uses it, he only used summon sword one time in one fight with Dante, where he grabs the when he um creates a sword out of the air and then he grabs it by his hand and throws it at Dante. And that was the only time that he did it, which is the only thing that pisses me off because Virgil uses them summon swords like a lot. That's just one of his main power sets, and it's like, why the fuck would he not do it?

SPEAKER_03 18:04

But by the way, I mean to be fair, season three is in production, so let's not put it past him where he might do it again.

SPEAKER_00 18:12

Yeah, yeah, true. That was just the only thing into I think that maybe the the original writer might have thought maybe he'd be too OP with it or something, but I'm like, I don't know. Like oh, you also already mentioned this, and I wanted to mention this too, as well, too. Uh, the lady that wound up creating Ebony and Ivory, I do like that he kept that, they kept that into the story. Oh, yeah. Canonically, yes, canonically, she is the one to create Ebony and Ivory for Dante in the original series as well, too. So absolutely love that they have her, and I like that it has show her as like much older as well, too, considering the fact that later on in DMC5, you know, for as far as canonical story, depending on how the enemy goes, you know, we meet her granddaughter who winds up being uh Nero's friend who helps out him his weapon. So pretty awesome there.

SPEAKER_03 18:58

Oh, yeah. Alright, let's get the breakdown moving.

Ouroboros Break In And Romance

SPEAKER_03 19:04

So, Dante, Lady, and Virgil break into the Ouroboros base and are confronted by T, the right-hand lady, to uh Arius, and an army of failed demon experiments. Virgil sends Dante and Lady through a portal so he can face Arius alone, but Arius teleports him away. Dante saves Lady from being hit by an oncoming truck on some Twilight type shit and reveals that he stole the Arcana Medaglia before he and Lady kissed. And I like the details where I knew the coin was gonna make a difference. You know that checkoff's guns were like, oh, it's a useless coin. What are you gonna do with it? And he pox it anyway. Oh, that coin's gonna matter later. Trust me, it's gonna matter later. And I like the way they did that to where, oh, he just flipped it uh the Arcana Medaglia or that useless coin. I'm like, Yeah, see, I knew I knew that was gonna come into play later. Anyways, the two love birds go to see Professor Lucan, who is voiced by Keith David, by the way, and I just love how this man keeps getting work. Lucan Lucan uh had the uh they go to him to have it destroyed, but it was a matter of time before Arius and the uh bird ladies pulled up. Dante failed to protect Lady from being attacked, and Lucan had no choice but to surrender the Medaglia when Arius has captured his granddaughter Maddie, getting killed anyways, as soon as the girl was released. You got anything for that, Kugas?

SPEAKER_00 20:43

Man, that whole death that that whole sequence is kind of weird. I ain't gonna lie on that. That was kind of just the only thing that didn't make sense to me. At first, it was like that, it was hype as hell. And I'm like, oh my god, they killed Lady, they actually did it, and then no, she she doesn't die, they they just like, oh, his technology was so fancy. I'm like, nah, ain't no way you know what I'm saying, like that. She got sliced up and dropped from like five stories high and landed on a fucking statue. Her neck is broke. There's no way that she was still conscious and still alive enough for them to be that doesn't make no goddamn sense. Anyway, whatever.

SPEAKER_03 21:23

Um you know, main video platform or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 21:28

Pretty much. Um, now granted, we knew Luca was gonna die. That was those are the questions, man. It was he was right there at the destruction of the medallion. He was like, he tried to have like Doctor Strange moment. I see the only way, the only way we win this is for me to give it back to you. Okay, I'm sorry. Um but no, it this is one of those ones like I get it, I get it. Like, honestly. See, me and Tucker had this discussion before into it. Like, if it came down to it, it's like you probably just the whole world would be destroyed or save your child. And we was like, uh, yes, be honest, we probably would say just save the child. Uh it's irrational. I'm not gonna lie to you. The love is irrational, it is. It's this is one of those things that's the logical sense would be you know what? Had your granddaughter did what she was supposed to be doing, she'd still be alive right now. That would be the case, however, you don't do that with children. By the way, I just uh the thing that got me was how he knew specific. I need exactly this many hours to destroy the battalion, and he was down to the T of that shit. The thing was cracking. I think it should have stayed cracked just to kind of show it was damn near about to die. The fact that it paired itself felt a little bit bullshit as well, too, but whatever. Those are my little gripes. Otherwise, the fight sequels was pretty awesome. Them hard that now I can't it might just be me, and maybe it's because I've been watching a lot of Yu-Gi-Oh lately um in YouTube, like shorts and stuff. I just saw Harpy Sister, Harpy Lady Sisters.

SPEAKER_03 23:13

Yeah, I was thinking that too, but I was like, I didn't want to go there.

SPEAKER_00 23:16

The design. That's all I can't see. I was like, I've just seen Harpy Lady Sisters. That's all I'm seeing. I'm just like, it's it's this where's their pet dragon? Where's the dragon on the wheel? That's what we're missing right now. It would be perfect. Um, but that fight sequence, yeah, they would do him to fail. There was no question to that. Dante not um properly handling his devil trigger, it makes a big difference. Um, I know this is kind of a big jump into it later. I like how we get a chance to get a better understanding for Nello Angel that is actually just a demon enhancement per se, but is not actually Virgil's devil trigger, and him having to admit the fact that no, we actually cannot stay in our devil mode for long periods of time. We have to be reverted back to our human form after a certain period of time because our bodies can't handle that big boost of power itself, which makes sense as far as for Dante, which there's a chance that Dante not only being with what we already discussed before, that he has that more in enhanced instinct that he is naturally stronger than Virgil, that there is a chance his devil trigger is also stronger than Virgil's as well, too, which is why whenever uh Dante goes into it, he reverts back much faster than Virgil does because it's a lot more power and a lot more strain on his body. So yeah, so it it made sense for the plot. So honestly, that there's no gripe into that when I actually wanted to applaud that that they got a chance to better explain it. Because at first it was just like, oh, go devil tricking, like, why won't you do it? Why can't you do it? And then he randomly does it, but then he's not as strong into it, he does not as honed into it, and then they actually do explain later, or Virgil explains later. And I'm like, I actually applaud that writing that you have a chance to even give even a brief explanation of what's going on, and it makes sense. So definitely not a little praise for that fight sequence, and plus it was a pretty cool fight sequence, you know.

SPEAKER_03 25:18

That's all I got. Gotcha. All right, keeping it moving. Oh my god, here we go.

Jester Reveal And Canon Talk

SPEAKER_03 25:28

While Lady is healed up and under Bane's supervision, uh, he informs her that her father is still locked, and it was he who pointed Bain's to her for recruitment, low-key helping Darcom without Lady knowing, as the jester. No, hold on, wait, wait, wait. Flashback to season one. So let me get this right. The same dude who couldn't leave well enough alone when he saw that one demon did all that research to try to prove that demons exist and all that shit. Even his wife was like, hey, yo, you need to calm down. He's tweaking. Next thing you know, he's drinking a bile of demon blood, becomes a demon, eats the wife, almost killed lady, but uh, you know, thankfully not, and then all that shit happened meanwhile, he was still alive the whole time buying for Darkom at Mundan's gas.

SPEAKER_00 26:27

So canonically, yes, in Devil May Cry 3, the jester is Lady's father. That is actually correct. And the thing about it is that Lady working for Darkon, just hunting down demons and stuff, is also somewhat canonical. Not so much of Darkon, but she has worked for demon hunting organizations in the in the game franchise because the game franchise also has comics as well, too. Um, but in the original franchise, she does work for demon hunters, she does hunt down demons, and her main goal is to find her father and kill him because he was a human who experimented with himself, turned himself into a demon, and killed her mother. She watched it happen and she's been hunting him down ever since. So now we're kind of getting back into that story from the end of the series. But yeah, that is canonically correct. He is her father and always has been. I was actually surprised when the season one because I was like, wait, did they actually kill off her dad? Is he did they actually just completely eliminate that character? Because that jester is a major character in the series. He is one of the few villains of the series that actually came very close to not only opening the portal, but actually re-merging the human and the human world in Makai. He actually was right there at the very end of the third game, was actually merging the world. He was working alongside Virgil to actually do so. Now, him being a spy for Darkon, that's the only thing that's different as far as into the story. But him being a jester, that is true. But also keep in mind this even though he's a jester and he acts like a lowly demon, and then like the only thing he's good for is that just being laugh and just being funny and just being like, you know, the goofball of everything. He's just like the bard. He is actually significantly more powerful than he lets on. Because if they keep the same thing like they did for Devil May Cry 3, that is not his true demon form either. That's just a temporary form, just like Virgil has Mellow Angel as a temporary form, as instead of his actual real devil trick form.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

Right.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

So that's the only thing I would say it's a possible we may look out for for season three, since we know now he's gonna be a main character in season three, since he was only just like a little side character to this season. But yeah, no, canonically, that's actually accurate.

SPEAKER_03 28:56

I need to replay these games. Like, I got all of them on my um PlayStation, so I need to replay these games. Like, damn, I don't remember that.

SPEAKER_00 29:05

Speaking of, and I'm not like a we're not salespeople for them as well, too, but just in mentioning it right now. Steam currently has a sale going on right now for the Delphine and Cry games. You can get all the games on sale at this moment um on Steam. You can get the full collection one, two, three, four, and um five.

SPEAKER_03 29:26

Sponsored by Bro.

SPEAKER_00 29:29

Uh, because Steam is doing way better than PlayStation and Microsoft. Microsoft is doing a little bit better. But anyway, um, but still, Steam is doing significantly better than them right now. And Nintendo, I I'm willing to give that free. Steam is winning.

SPEAKER_03 29:44

Steam is winning. I'm not gonna even contest with that.

SPEAKER_00 29:49

But yeah, but just to just mention that, but yeah, sorry you just say going back to playing the games, maybe think about that. But yeah, like that is the main plot point for Definitely Cry 3, is that yeah, that gesture is that gesture is aggravating because I put no, I'll put in this aspect. Dante, keep in mind with this, as much as Dante is a group ball, the gesture is the only character that actually pissed off Dante. Keep that in mind, as far as in the original series, he's the only character, and I'm not just talking about like, oh, you're just a bad guy, and I gotta take you down because you're doing bad, nothing like that. No, he's the only person that actually annoyed Dante so much that Dante was like, I'm gonna kill that motherfucker when I see him. Like, how do you piss off the goofball here?

SPEAKER_03 30:41

Man, yeah. It's almost like the guy that's funny in a cool way versus the guy that's trying to be funny in a cringe way, and it's like their energy just don't match.

SPEAKER_00 31:00

Yeah, trying too goddamn hard. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:05

Jesus.

SPEAKER_03 31:06

I'm like, yeah. Dante's the type of dude that would tell the Jets they're like, hey man, you scaring the hoes with that shit.

SPEAKER_00 31:13

Pretty much. Pretty much, yeah. It's like, no, chill. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 31:22

Bruh, keeping it going.

Eclipse Finale And Argosax Fight

SPEAKER_03 31:24

So the solar eclipse is reaching his zenith. Arius kills Banes, telling him that he should have listened to Lady when Lady tried to warn Banes about Arius. Dante and Lady come to stop him, but it was too late to stop the activation. Arius and Argusac fused together on some some monster type shit. Virgil and Maddie escape the Trismogia with the former finally convinced that it was Mundus who set up the hit on Ava's life of his mother, and to capture both of the twins, but he only was able to get Virgil. Dante hit, remember. Dante and Virgil team up to fight Argus and Arias while Lady confronts T and almost got killed until Maddie came and glut. With Lady's help, the former ruler of Makai got kicked out of the Earth Realm, but Virgil pursues after him, followed by Dante before promising Lady that they'll meet up again.

SPEAKER_00 32:58

All right, let me mention something real quick.

Mundus Feels Like God Of War

SPEAKER_00 33:03

The ultimate chair meme. This one right here.

SPEAKER_03 33:08

No, I meant to mention that when I was talking about Jester. I forgot about that. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 33:12

Gotcha. Okay. So Mundus tells Virgin, yeah, I had your mother killed specifically to help you purge that weak sided. Right? So I'm gonna tell you this line. Let me see if you can remember where this line came from. I did it to make you stronger. You succeed. If it doesn't stick out to you, it's okay. What if I mentioned?

SPEAKER_03 33:40

Wait, whoa, whoa. I'm sorry, what?

SPEAKER_01 33:47

Oh, wait, Aries destroyed my.

SPEAKER_03 33:50

Hold on. It uh something happened where I didn't hear that. No, I'm sorry. Uh for some reason I didn't hear that part.

SPEAKER_00 33:58

So the second the second part is Aries, destroy my enemies, and my life is yours. Remember what game that's from?

SPEAKER_03 34:08

Uh uh. Because the lion's album.

SPEAKER_00 34:14

The lion's album. I'm like, damn, yeah, like Kratos, God of War, the first game. Ares granted Kratos' power, sent him through torturous missions to make him stronger, and sent him and made him purge his weakness to make him more of a monster, to make him stronger. That's what Ares did to Kratos. Is that not the same thing that Mundus did to Virgil?

SPEAKER_03 34:44

Yeah, you're right. And to be fair, I'm like, I I it's completely understandable because you are a very avid God of War friend. So I wouldn't put it past you to um mention that, but at the same time, the first, the very first God of War game, I'm sitting like, damn, that's a deep cut. I'm sorry. That was a deep cut. Like, oh, that was a long time ago since I played that.

SPEAKER_00 35:12

Well, I uh to be fair enough, like I gotta wear this, you know, it's a franchise I'm really deeply infatuated by. And I actually I now have the full original collection on PS3 now, so it's just they're remaking it and no one knows what's gonna happen. It's just gonna be the same thing that they're just either remastering it and saying it's a remake, or they're going through the same plot points they did with Final Fantasy, and they're actually remaking the game to where it's a completely different gameplay um and changing up some stuff, and a lot of people are very upset about that. I have the full collection.

SPEAKER_03 35:46

Actually, you know, I can't wait until I get to my notes because I got something to uh say onto all that. Um now that you brought up uh God of War.

SPEAKER_00 35:54

But no, that's what I want, but I did want to make that connection specific. I was just like, that's the I was sitting there watching this. I said, Is this the same shit that happened to Kratos?

SPEAKER_03 36:02

No, and I'm sitting here like all these references. Hold on, just finish what you gotta say, and then I'm gonna get to my point. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 36:09

So yeah, I'm sitting there like, hold on, that's actually pretty crazy. But um, as far as intuitive is I know like because we're pretty much right at the end of it. The the final arc battle, the the main battle between our um Argonne and Mundus is like the main thing for me that I thought was actually pretty cool. The only thing that got me is that that entire fight, Dante and Virgil are running towards the sword. The entire fight. Uh-uh. That's what I really need to use. Otherwise, I mean the fight sequence of that one is pretty cool, it's pretty dope. What is this though? Because otherwise, like I'm not the same creature that's that's I'm not the same creature. What is fucking for? No, you're not you're weaker. It's like you wanna hate what is that say it's like he is cold as a motherfucker.

SPEAKER_03 37:17

I mean, that's almost as cold as if you were okay. I'm not say you haven't, but that's more like for the people who like Juice Kaisen. If you like Medulo, I mean if you haven't read Medulo, cover your ears. I I think it's really funny how this reminds me of when Yuji uh had this reunion with Mahito after all this time. He fucking made light work out of Mahito, and he was like, damn, girl, were you always this week?

SPEAKER_01 38:01

He cleaned them up.

SPEAKER_03 38:03

No, it was actually it kind of reminds me of Deku and Muscular, the rematch where, you know, when Deku was on his vigilante arc, and bro, like Muscular was like, oh, no, no, he was like, oh, it ain't gonna play out like last time, and then Deku was like, You're right, it won't be like last time. And he made light work out of Muscular, like, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:28

I can't say that he made like full light work because Mundes was did get it did get some licks um handed to his face, though. Like, you know, Argo was actually doing something, even considering the fact that he was also still weakened as well, too. He was weak, but it was more so the fact that when he found out that the anchor for him, his anchored core was a human still inside. He didn't get become powerful enough to the point that the human had changed into like an actual core yet or anything like that. So the weakness was still there. All you have to do is rip out a demon's core, and then that's how you kill him. Mundus' core is huge, and it's pretty difficult to kind of kill that shit. That's the thing that always gets me. You ever notice the most powerful creatures, their core is exposed? They're just like, I don't give a fuck, please. It's right here. They do this shit also for Devil McCry in all the Devil McCry games. You will see the main weak point right there, and it's like, I don't give a fuck if my weak point is here. I am telling you to attack it because I'm so goddamn powerful that you're not gonna need to do shit about it. You have to pull out that main character because nobody else is touching that shit.

SPEAKER_03 39:32

Kind of remind me of Aaron Yeager when he decided to do the rumbling, and at that point, his body was just exposed. Well, yeah, all his just bones and shit.

SPEAKER_00 39:43

Yeah, he didn't care. He was like, uh, this this is the weak point right here. I dare you to try and come and get it. If you if you make it, this is yours, type shit. Like, damn. That's when you start bragging it out. Like, nah, at this point, I've already won. I don't need nothing. But keep in mind how powerful Mundus actually is. The one thing I'm actually curious, I'm I'm just gonna, I'm really curious about how things go, is uh I still like Devil May Cry 5 and the fact that the one storyline that actually happened. Virgil does successfully defeat Mundus in Devil May Cry 5. Granted, he had to do a major crazy ass thing to do so, but he does actually win against Mundus finally. Um, and I'm wondering if that's gonna be something that happens for this series, because at the end of the day, they're gonna take down Mundus regardless. Like Virgil's at the point of like, I hear what you're saying. Mundus, you're kind of making some sense on a lot of stuff because they that's the other thing as well, too. Mundus is ruthless as fuck in the original game in the comics. He literally Mundus has the exact same thing as Thanos Street. That's exactly what happened. Whereas Thanos in the comics is ruthless and does not give a fuck about nobody except himself. Literally, that whole I love death because the concept of death of what it is type of thing versus MCU Thanos has an actual plan to try to do things, he actually tries to figure things out, he's actually like mapping things, he has a end, he has an end goal in mind, type of thing. Whereas, you know, like Common Thanos does not. That's the same thing with the Mundus. The Mundus in this series is not cruel. He is a like as much as you want to say he's a very cruel ruler, he really isn't. It's his subordinates that's always doing all the fuck shit. He's purging the weakness, which it would make sense to do so if you're trying to build a major military thing. He's but the Mundus in the original Devil McCry games doesn't necessarily rule hell as far as like, oh, I'm a ruler. He rules hell on the fact that I'm the strongest motherfucker. I wish most motherfucker would, type shit. Like he rolls up on people and just starts killing them because he don't care. He doesn't really have subordinates that he's like, oh, I want you to try to do this, I want you to try to do that. Anytime Mundus shows up, he's trying to kill a motherfucker and he don't care. And let you be the blood of Sparta, oh, he absolutely hates your ass.

SPEAKER_03 42:15

You know, that kind of makes sense because let's not forget that unless the games and the original canon says otherwise, Mundus was uh following Argus acts. Like, you know, Argus acts or considering that uh he's like pretty much the Satan of this uh world. And since we Mundes was like, hey, yo, you kind of tripping. You need to be dealt with on some Julius Caesar type shit. And then they betrayed him on end up betraying um Mundus kills Argus Acts, and then Mundis is like, all right, check this out. So since the last guy was tripping, it's gonna be a little different with my rule.

SPEAKER_00 43:03

Yeah, no, that's not how Mundis does inside the style inside the comics, or so whatever. Mundus is just as ruthless as Argus Acts was. I just kept saying Argo, it's Argos Acts. I knew it was Argo something, my bad.

SPEAKER_03 43:14

But um You probably think that you're invisible.

SPEAKER_00 43:17

Look, I I think it's also like I told you, for this particular review, unlike it's mostly other ones, I usually have time to do like kind of research and stuff. This one I'm going straight off the fields, I'm going straight off of memories of all these video games I played. And like anytime I'm popping up, this literally is just popping up in my head as I remember it.

SPEAKER_03 43:34

But um, I think it's so great how it um ties into the canon, like it's so loyal to the canon. It's really good.

SPEAKER_00 43:43

It's really good. I just have to say this real quick. It's too understand. Oh my gosh. But yeah, it's Um, absolutely, like I said, it does it ties into the canon very well. Like it's not exactly canonical, but it adds more that fits very well into the story. Like it does very awesome. That's one of the things that a lot of people is really skeptical about with Devil May Cry 4 is because it wasn't just the introduction of a new character, Nero, it was also how the story kind of played out. Like we know of the story of Sparta, we know Sparta separated Makai in the human realm. We know that he was supposed to be a safe, like kind of help save people and stuff. And the thing about it is it's like by the time you get to Devil May Cry 4, all the humans know of Sparta, all the humans know of this thing, and there's the church of Sparta, they're trying to worship him and what he was doing, and you're like, Wait, what? Sparta did his shit in secret. Like, no one was supposed to kind of know that was it was a very weird aspect into the story that they did kind of change out, they completely cut a lot of stuff out, but it was one of those ones of like they have experimented with different stories before to see how they were gonna do stuff, and some stuff pans out, some stuff doesn't. And so this one, this whole show is an experiment. Well, season one was really an experiment, and it it panned out very well. I like how they're still they're maintaining the story as well, too. Like you still get those callbacks to Lady's team with the people her team that died when they went into the building. You still have a callback to the um the people that she the Makayans that she thought she saved, and she didn't know that they were completely wiped out as soon as they were quote unquote saved. Um and then she finds out that that actually happened, that they still wound up killing them anyway. Um, and then understanding what the main actual goal was of this, that Darkom really, what really is, is that it's just this guy who's bore the quest of Ourobos because, and just like him, he is just a beaten-down human who thought that the human realm would be bad. You know what you said? That's pretty much the same story, is that it's just oh, my life as a human sucked, so I need to become more powerful, so I'm gonna follow in the steps of the demons.

SPEAKER_03 46:18

Right.

SPEAKER_00 46:19

Just the same damn story.

SPEAKER_03 46:21

Now that I think about it, I I don't remember, like, I'm trying to remember what was the last thing Lady did, but essentially I'm trying to think, okay, hold on, check this out. If Aryus is now dead, the right-hand lady is also dead, and whatnot. So who's gonna run Dark? Also, Banks is dead too. So who's gonna run Darkcom now? So I'm gonna be surprised if it's the football player. The guy that killed the president is like, oh well, I just failed up to be commander of Darkcom.

SPEAKER_00 46:59

Hey, he failed up though. He may have failed, but he failed up though. Oh man.

SPEAKER_03 47:09

But no, it's um the same guy that was freaking out.

SPEAKER_00 47:13

Oh my god, I'm fucked up, guys. I fucked up with promotion. Wouldn't that be like a really great foreshadowing based upon, like I said, the very beginning of that war? Everyone dies, everyone's going through, people that you thought was gonna make it didn't make it, and it wound up being that underdog that panic that they had to protect winds up being the final one to deliver the final blow. It would it it would be uh a really good foreshadowing of this of that happening to him. Yeah, yeah. The show's been doing pretty good about that. I don't know, like it might be, it might not be, but at the same time. Man, that's that's all I'm saying, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 47:55

I am so glad that they already green with season three being in the building. Because like I'm too curious about where they're going with the direction. But let me just go ahead and get into

Soundtrack Vibes And Key Nitpicks

SPEAKER_03 48:06

my personals. We've ungrade it and get the fuck up out of here. So for starters, I can't let that banger soundtrack slide. That was I mean, Papa Rhodes, Evanescence. Oh my god, awesome animation, lots of action. This this show is so mid-2000s coded. We already talked about God of War, Enemy Anza, all the type of shit, and I'm thinking mid-2000s. All that shit was in the mid-2000s, so I'm like, bro, it was an era. It was an era, hell of an era, though. Some of the comedy I did like uh the comedy's um is still strong in this one. Like, I was trying to. It wasn't the strongest of season one, but it wasn't like that's what I was saying.

SPEAKER_02 49:03

Like, is it better than season one though?

SPEAKER_03 49:05

I don't know. Like, I don't know, I was still laughing when uh in season one when those guys would try to shoot at Dante, and then Dante was like, hey, we gotta shoot again.

SPEAKER_00 49:18

Yes, like because the thing about this, this one was Virgil. Virgil is very anti-fun. So this one they pushed more of the romance between Dante and Lady, they pushed more for Virgil's seriousness to kind of keep the story going. Um, the most the only really comedy that I can I can say off the top of my head that I remember is the interview when they interviewed what happened after Dante woke up from his cryo sleep. And Dante, the way they drew it. Yes, he was like, oh happy go lucky, and Lady's like, yeah, that's what he said. Yeah, his brain's still half frozen. Of course, he'd say that shit was funny. Um, other than that, I can't really recall any other like quote unquote funny moments. I mean the Jojo reference. Uh yeah, true. Yeah, yeah, it did.

SPEAKER_03 50:13

But there's not it was a Jojo's reference to season one, too, but yeah, they have to I didn't remember it in season one, but the fact that they're keeping up with that, I'm like, I love it. I I fucking and keep in mind, Jojo's was running back. No, hold on. Let me take that back. The redo, you know, like the one that we know of was 2011. But to be fair, JoJo dated back to the 90s, so it dated back to the 80s, actually.

SPEAKER_00 50:41

Remember, this is like 80s part three. There's an there's a much like some people thought it was like, oh, this is just someone just like then the artists had redid it. It was like they did Jojo Zar Adventure in the 80s style art, like back in those 80s uh movies or 80s anime and stuff like Save the Love. And I was like, no, that's how old the series actually. I said a lot of people don't realize this. Remember, Hunter Hunter, um that's what it was.

SPEAKER_03 51:06

I was thinking Hunter Hunter was in the 90s. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 51:09

Yeah, so Hunter Hunter, Baki, and um Jojo's Bizarre Adventure are all anime that picked up with the remakes versus the original. Like the original was still good, but when they got remastered, that's what most people refer to right now. A lot of people are thinking of. They're not thinking of that, it's like, no, you don't realize there was an original, and sometimes the original was a little more grotesque. Like Hunter Hunter's original was actually um was a little bit more serious. It like the remaster is funnier, like better graphics end is a little bit funnier, but the original actually gave more information, like um, because the manga is like more of a novel instead of a manga. There's a ton of information in the manga. So the original anime, when it adapted it, put all that information there. So there was a whole lot more that's going on into the story, a lot more explanations. That's why um, like some of the YouTubers, when they wound up making these explanation of men videos and um things like that, and more understanding of the character department, uh, the character depths, they're only most of the ones you're gonna find out are only the ones that talk about the more modern remake version. Versus if you see some people that do the comparisons, they're like, oh, if you read the manga versus to this, there's actually a lot of differences. But yeah, and then watch the original anime, you're gonna see a big difference. Same for Baki. Um, the whole extra long, lengthy narrator explanation and shit, that was not in the original Baki. There was a narrator explaining shit, but they got more to the action in Baki in the original Baki. They do the more modern one. More modern one, they they frag that shit out just because just fucking because. Um, but yeah, it's also the same for Jojo's Our Adventure 2, it's just like Baki, there's more back to action than there is explanation. Like part three with Jotaro is nowhere near as long as it is in the modern remake. Yeah, part three is like 50 something episodes. The original one only had like I think 18 episodes, or like 12, like is that uh 16 or 18 episodes? Like it was significantly shorter. Sorry. Yeah, yeah, y'all know my love of animals.

SPEAKER_03 53:29

It's all good, but yeah, um what was I saying? Oh, yeah. The references with the ultimate chair, the Jojo references, and all that. Uh best part is how both sides are technically right about the other, where Mundus and Aryas manipulate the other's power dominion. Like I said earlier, I kind of wish that Dante versus Virgil fight was a little bit more saucy. It was good, but just a little extra sauce. Just a little. But it does hold up with the dialogue, the rivalry, and the recollection of the past, like I said

Ratings And What Season 3 Needs

SPEAKER_03 54:05

earlier. Uh how would you grade season two, Coke? I know I need you to go first, but I'll ask you first.

SPEAKER_00 54:12

I can't grade it as high as season one. Uh, like we have a lot more video game references, a lot more anime references, and those are fantastic. But like I've also like we also mentioned as well, the comedy aspect is a little bit different. Um, the fight scenes are amazing. I love that you get a chance to experiment more, but like I've also mentioned as well, too, there's a lot that's cut. Um, season one felt more like when Dante was in a fight in season one. I could imagine seeing the style meter popping up and him like going all the way up to like S, double S, triple S as far as his uh his unique combat abilities. In season two, you don't see that. The combat is fantastic, it that it has not necessarily dropped at quality, it's just more those ones of I'm not seeing the style meter popping up with these combos, I'm not seeing the unique fighting style that Dante has. I'm not seeing you know, Virgil using his summon swords, something that Virgil has always done. Virgil has uh like it in not just in the original canon, but also even in the Ninja Theory remake, um, as well. Too, Virgil, his summon swords is his main thing, like him being able to summon all these extra swords is is his um his response to Dante's ebony and ivory. He's able to summon swords as fast as Dante is able to pull his triggers. Um, the biggest thing about it, I I loved at the final shots with um Dante and Virgil doing Jack doing that um shot together. The only thing that made me upset is that in the end of Devil May Cry 3, Virgil said Jackpot with Dante, and they have an iconic pose that they have done before where Virgil is holding um is holding Ebony while um Dante is holding Ivory, of course, symbolizing their light and dark. Um, but it's also the fact that they hold it in a very particular T fashion where Virgil always puts his gun on top of Dante's in like a side in like a side slant, like you would see in modern hood movies where they would hold the gun sideways. That's how Virgil holds the gun, whereas Dante actually holds it straight. Um, and they always have it like right next to each other, and they they both say jackpot. That's one of the few things about Virgil, even though he would be pissed off of Dante. He does enjoy saying jackpot whenever he doesn't shot. Oh, yeah. No, so him being like, oh, you still say that? Kind of hurts.

SPEAKER_03 56:49

It was kind of crazy because uh if you seen it kind of gave all the same energy as not exactly word for word, but it's that same energy from Sonic the movie three, where you know Sonic and Shadow, now that they finally put their differences aside, and then Sonic was like, gotta go fast, and then Shadow's like, Don't tell me you gotta catch phrase. They're like, I do, and the people love it. And it was like the same thing too, because like Dante was like, Jackpot, I'm like, don't tell me still you got catchphrase. I was like, Yes, I do, and the people love it.

SPEAKER_00 57:29

Oh my gosh. But yeah, it's like uh the thing about it is as much as Virgil wants to go against it. Virgil actually does wind up, say Jackpot as well, too. He winds up catching himself sometimes. So he's like, oh shit, I said that, right? But that is like one of the comedy aspects that Virgil does that.

SPEAKER_03 57:43

Hey, yo, don't tell Dante, okay.

SPEAKER_00 57:46

Dante knows it, that's why he likes saying that shit, bro.

SPEAKER_03 57:49

Nah, he's joking, but uh oh oh, you know what?

SPEAKER_00 57:52

But as far as my rating, because I'm gonna say my rating never gives you so that way you can say it. Um, because of some of the changes into it, I just I have to say uh I'm gonna have to say like a nine. Like I want to say eight and a half, but no, I don't want to do that. I feel insulting. I was thinking the same thing, honestly. Yeah, I'm saying that.

SPEAKER_03 58:11

Yeah, it feels like a nine. Like, okay, it was like the same as season one for me. It's like it's different, like, you know, like we have our nitpicks, but it's like different nitpicks, so it's like at the very least, I'm glad that it doesn't have a consistent problem, you know? It's like okay, a little nitpicks here and there, but it's like, okay, you can gloss over that other that other than that, it was fairly entertaining, very great. I won't say masterpiece, but it was fairly incredible. Uh oh yeah.

Maddie Loose End And Motives

SPEAKER_03 58:46

The fact that, oh, um, they don't, I mean, yeah, they split up eventually, but for a split second, Virgil hanging out with Maddie in the transmagia was giving Shashon Marilyn Ren.

SPEAKER_00 58:58

Yeah, that part, that's what made me really kind of catch that. But I imagine they just dropped that. Like, uh, what happened to the girl? You just I mean, all of a sudden she's just back into the world. Yeah, but it's like, damn, like you don't even show like the final caption moment with Lady where she's wound up talking about, oh Dante, I'm sorry, I missed it. I'm missing like it shows like all the other characters doing stuff, but it doesn't show that it doesn't show the little girl. Like, what happened to Luca's granddaughter? Like, what's going on? Um, unless I missed it or something like that. I didn't actually, like I said, I didn't go back and read a second watch with this one. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 59:34

Now you didn't miss anything. Like they just kind of just fucked up at that point. I'm like, I mean, maybe she'll be back for season three because you know, you can't just kill up her granddad, and then she just served no purpose at this point. Like, that's that's not fair. Like, she's gonna she's gonna come back. And then I I need to see more uh birds or interact with Manny. I mean, not to say that because keep in mind, bear in mind, I am not saying let's go the whole browser, you know, like yeah, acting, you know, having relations. No, no, no. I ain't I ain't saying all that, but like just the fact that okay, he got this little girl that for some reason is like I'll make an exception for you, but other than that, fuck all you other humans.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:23

Yeah, pretty much. You're like there's no explanation as to why. It's just all of a sudden you just he just felt the need to have to protect her. Just hearing that she had protected that she's protecting this locket for Dante, there's no real reason for it. There's nothing to explain him. Oh, I have to protect this girl. He just does. Like he protects her from the other demons in there, then he and the um every other humans also is in there too, and then winds up like just telling her, come on and takes her all the way out. Like he could have left her there. Like he just found his own way out, but he specifically took her with him for no reason. And it's like, huh, like why do you feel the urge to have to protect this girl? What is it about this girl that isn't titled to your humanity? Which is the same thing that just the same story arc that happens to Shastromu. Sastromu feels like he's he's easily able to abandon his humanity until he meets this little girl. Something about the innocence, something about the love and care that this little girl has, he can't take it away. And he even he throughout the entire series never knows why. Even when um at the end of the end of Inyasha when Kagomi winds up actually explaining to him, and like it's like it's literally it's probably because the love and care that your mother had, you automatically try to give that to this little girl as well. Too you see your mother as much as you want to say you didn't love her, you loved your mom, and you see your mom in this little girl, whether you want to or not, and that's what's kind of hitting that that love and compassion that's there that you think that you should in the way that you really can. And in the end, Shastromaru still never fully understands that. Uh, now I have not seen Yasha Hume fully, I've only seen like the first couple episodes before I wound up having to put it down for something else. So I don't know if they finally get more of an explanation of Shastromu taking into his uh more of his human side and understanding, like what's really going on there. We don't really know. Uh so I can't really explain further into that, but it's like you've seen that same thing for Don for Virgil, which is it would make sense considering the fact of like in the Nero storyline, there was no real explanation where all of a sudden Virgil decided to just be with this woman for a certain period of time. There's no explanation to it at all, it's just all of a sudden Virgil found a woman like his daddy did, and felt can I be trail with you?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:57

Who's that? You're not missing a whole lot what y'all see, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:02

Okay, well, fair enough.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:04

Yeah, like it's almost like they don't really care for the parent anime that much. It's like you might see some OG characters pop up, but it's almost like, eh, you know, you had your time, fuck off.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:19

That's hurtful. That's hurtful, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:22

Um that's why when I titled the review the way that I did, it was a step down from Enemy Yacht's legacy.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:30

That's that's hurtful. That's that's yeah, I know, dog. I know. I mean, I probably should watch it, but we'll see. We'll see. Okay, thank you for being honest with me on it.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:44

Yeah, I think just so you don't. I'm like, if you're thinking about it, I'm like, I'm gonna be honest with you, dog. It doesn't save me some time. It's a step down. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:55

All right, man. But yeah, that's my biggest. That's my that's why that comparison when I also made that on the TikTok too. It's like there's no real explanation that's compelled that he just felt the need to do so. He just did, and that's just what it is. But other than that, let's say yeah, like in the end, I still rate a nine, so you rate a nine. That's actually pretty, so we're pretty consistent onto it. It's not too often that that happens. I usually rate a little bit harsher than you do sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:20

Nah, it's like I get it, and that's why I appreciate you being on the show because sometimes even I gotta admit I'm being too nice to it. But it's like, am I, you know, like at this point, I've been doing these reviews, watching on this show to a point where if I nitpick every fucking thing, then it's like everything's gonna look like a five to me. I'm like, eh, I don't wanna sound like some miserable uh guy, you know, you know what I'm

Watching Weekly Versus Binging

SPEAKER_03 1:04:50

saying? Like, I just sound like, oh, I'm just never satisfied with everything. I'm like, you know, sometimes I just like to enjoy things, and that's the thing about Double Made Cry, to where my whole rule with watch once for entertainment, watch twice for analysis, to where I'm like, at least with Devil May Cry, it was so entertaining to where I'm like, Yeah, you know what?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:11

I'm just having fun watching it.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:13

Yeah, that's that's how it was, and that's why I felt comfortable being able to come into this review. Because even in enjoying watching it, I could see some of the little nitpicks I had with it, but nothing, even if I go back and watch it again, there's nothing to really gripe on about them like, oh, I hate this, I hate this. Honestly, I would feel the same way, it's just like when I was watching Castlevania, like the Netflix Castlevania series. Netflix be ruining a lot of shit, but sometimes they they be hitting.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:44

Actually, now I think about it, I kind of understand the weekly watches a little bit more now because imagine this. Imagine if you did the weekly watch. They didn't do it for a devil maker, obviously, they did drop all eight at once. But my point is that if you watch one episode. Per week. Then by the time you get to the last episode, almost to the last episode, what I would do is I will watch each episode weekly. And then by the time the season finale comes up, just go ahead and re-watch everything else. And then you get to the season finale. And then at that point, it's like even if you only watch the finale once, I'm like, you can just watch it again if you feel like if you feel like it. And technically, you already watched it twice. It's just, you know, you just take it easier on yourself and by watching it weekly, like one at a time first. And then that way you can already like flashback and it won't feel like you have to. It sounds a lot better than on average. A 12-episode anime will run you about five hours. It sounds a lot better to do the weekly thing than to sit there and be like, okay, I gotta watch this show. It's five hours long. And then I gotta watch it again just to review it. Just to make sure it holds up. And I'm like, I don't know, though. Like spending a whole weekend um watching a same show twice. Um I don't know. Uh, but if you watched it weekly or like I'm trying to do to where I'll probably watch it once it's halfway done and then watch weekly and then re-watch the whole thing just so I can like focus on the because hey, I got a lot, a lot of anime to cover for this anime. Like I'm like, I'm thinking it's damn near 20. Damn near. I don't no no listen. Like, I was sitting here like thinking, like, okay, it was actually more than that, but I was like, okay, hold on. I need to take it easy on myself, take some of these off. But then I'm like, god damn, there's some really good ones this season. I swear. I'm like, I'm like, at least 10 of them is definitely gonna, I have a good feeling by at least 10 of them. The other 16, 17 or so. I mean not 16, 17, uh, the other six or seven or so, uh it's actually like total up to like 17,

Manga Tangents And Animation Talk

SPEAKER_03 1:08:20

18. I don't know. Uh, but the other ones is like, okay, well, you know, it looks interesting, but I don't imagine it being a banger. I mean, I don't expect it to be like popping up like Witch Hat Athlete uh right now. Like that one that was.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:38

I got to got that. It was a TikTok I was supposed to do a long time ago. I was supposed to do a TikTok where some people was doing a thing of like manga that you've read that you think should be an anime. And Witch Li uh Witch Hat Astelire was one that I actually watched. It was actually I've been reading that manga. I started reading that manga last year, and it is so fucking amazing. So I was so happy that it became an anime. One that I'm actually looking forward to becoming an anime is um uh when is it's an exorcist, exorcist anime. Oh god, not give it away.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:13

Hold on, shot in the dark, because I know it's been getting a lot of hype lately and it's already being on Green Lit 4 anime. Uh Side in the Dark, are you thinking Tagarabaki? No. No.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:28

Wait, is that even about Exorcist? I don't I don't think so. I'm I don't know. Let me look that one because that doesn't sound familiar. What I'm thinking is it's called Ultimate Exorcist, is one that I'm thinking of. Oh, my bad. Sorry. Okay. So yeah, um, that's what I'm thinking. Ultimate Exorcist. Man, Ultimate Exorcist, his vibes is so fucking similar to Fire Force's Soul Eater. And the animation in the um the manga stuff the manga style is also very similar as well, too. Like the um the art style. It's so very similar to fucking Soul Eater and Fire Force. It is, it is, oh my god, this series is so fucking good. I'm just like, I so badly.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:07

Sorcerers, not Exorcist. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:12

Yeah, Ultimate Exorcist is the name of manga. So I don't, it has not, from as far as I know, it has not been yet.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:18

Yeah, I'm I'm sorry, I was like, I'm thinking Kagarabacha. I kind of curious. Uh, are they exorcism? Like, no, no, no, they're a sorcerer. So it's almost like drawing comparisons to Jujutsu Kaisen in a sense.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:30

This is yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kagarabachi, I I've seen the ninja, ninja mafia thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:37

Okay, my bad.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:39

Yeah, all right, you get it. But yeah, so that was um, so yeah, I forgot you just reminded me on that when you mentioned about witch hat because that that series is so fucking good, bro. It's even if you haven't watched it, like I'm I'm gonna start watching the anime just to see how it compares to the manga because the manga is one of those ones where my nervousness is is it may not capture the beauty of the manga, and I put it in that spec at this aspect playing leech, and that's one of the things I'm happy with definitely cry as well, too. Because I do want to tie it into this revision review that we're doing a bunch of people, including myself, is thinking the animation actually looks pretty good, it actually looks pretty good. That's that's not the that's not what I'm talking about, and I the animation can be great, but that's not what I mean as far as the beauty of it. There is so much depth to the characters. Oh okay, yes, there is so much depth to the characters, there's so much death to my guy that he I seen some people made a comment also. It's like, you know, he seemed like he'll lock down. It's like he seems like he's a dangerous witch. Like he's actually will lock down. I'm like, y'all have no idea. I said, like, because I I've gotten that far in the monk. I said, Y'all have no idea. When he's ready to lock down the motherfucker, oh, he will lock down the motherfucker for real. He seemed like a goo ball, but he gets dead ass serious when it's about his girls, and he don't give a fuck who you are. You could be a long time friend if he is like you could be like, Oh, I've known you since I was a kid, but if you threaten to his girls, he will fucking kill your ass if necessary. And I'm like, oh shit, this dude really about that. He's really about that with his students. He don't fuck around with his girls at all. He don't give a fuck, and so that's why I'm like, there's there's so much depth into that, there's so much into him, so much into the girls, so much into the world of magic, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:53

And it's it reminds me of um season one, um, Lucy from um Has Been Hotel. You remember when he first visited and uh Charlie had the two ghosts, and I I'm trying to think remember her name, but you know what doesn't matter. And then Lucy was like, Have you been uh taking good care of my little girl? You better be that kind of beer, that kind of energy.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:23

Honestly, yes, like straight up. He that's it's the same thing because like I said, he don't give a fuck. Like when it comes down for his girls, he don't care who you are. Like, I don't want to spoil it, but like it's it's something that he wants is he winds up doing some shit to somebody, and you just like you get it throws you off for a moment when you see it because you're like, wait, did he actually do that? And he's like, Yeah, he did. And he didn't care because a long time friend of his. He did that shit. I was like, holy fuck. Don't fuck with this man. Don't fuck with this man.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:01

This is gonna see this is why I can't add which has weird to anime lightning because I know for a fact that at least somebody's gonna want to talk about it with me, so like I mean that that to me it all depends on my availability.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:17

I I absolutely would love to talk about it. I I just gotta watch it, and I don't have French rolls, and all my sites that I go to is not working.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:29

Oh yeah, you know, yeah, they're taking down those sites, but um, I'm planning on doing it sometime to watch, so I mean, yeah, I know with your sites going down and whatnot, but at the very least, hey, like two months to find some kind of way to watch.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:56

Yeah, I will I will try.

Demon Weapons Missing And Wrap Up

SPEAKER_03 1:15:02

But um, yeah, uh we gave our rating on Devil May Cry and whatnot. So yeah, anything you want uh else to add on before you close it up?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:16

Absolutely series. Probably we'll give it a second watch just because.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:21

Yeah, probably. Uh what I'm gonna do is before season three comes out, I'll just finish season one or two just so I can get a refresher because you know, um, I didn't do it for uh season two this time around because I felt like okay, uh I remember the events of it all for the most part, so I don't really felt like I needed to re-watch season one. Plus, they just gotta recap most of it anyways. Uh but once we get to season three, I'm like, okay, let me just go back just for fun seasons, just so I'll make sure that I can stay caught up on what all I went down before season three might throw some curveballs at me, and I was like, wait a minute. How did this wait what do we get? How do we get here? Like, oh, oh, right, right, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:12

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:14

Oh, wait, I forgot. There's one other thing I forgot to mention, too. I think I guess it does make me upset that I know the series is not doing this. The demon weapons. They're not, they're not doing demon weapons into this. That actually is a part of the iconic story. Well, part of the original story is that the demon weapons were there. Like Virgil, um, his interaction with Beowulf, when they finally got killed off Beowulf, when he finally killed Beowulf. Like, Beowulf, like so some demons, when they're so they're so powerful that when you defeat them, they you actually take their demonic power. But the thing about it is, because of the fact of how Dante and Virgil are like cat breeds, when they take demonic powers, they wind up taking them in the form of weapons, and so they're able to use those weapons later on. And that actually is like part of the canonical story. Like, there's some story arcs where literally for Dante to move forward, he winds up having to rely on the power of this particular demon that he defeated and use their power set. And it's like, dang, there's like several demons in season two that Dante killed that they didn't turn into weapons. And I'm like, So cool, we got the little, we got to see Beowulf, but then okay, where's his weapon at? Where's the weapon he turns into? Like, I wanted to see that. That's probably that's probably my only little ripe I have onto it. But I mean, if Virgil's not really using his sum of swords like that, we're pretty much just not really seeing even weapons into this. So I'm like, okay, well, that's okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:52

That's all I got. Gotcha. Alright, well, with that being said, we're gonna go ahead and close this out. So, guys who thank you for being on this show with me, and to the listener, thank you for listening to us to the end. Have yourself a good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good night, whenever you're happening to be listening to this, and remember to stay nerdy. Great things are coming. Take it easy on yourself. We're throwing enough out of here.