The ManKind Podcast
The ManKind Podcast is a space where modern masculinity gets redefined by real men doing real work.
In a world full of outdated blueprints and noisy stereotypes, hosts Brandon Clift and Boysen Hodgson unpack what it means to be a man today with humor, honesty, and heart.
This isn’t about telling you WHO to be. It’s about helping you pick up the pen and write your own story of manhood. Whether we’re breaking down leadership blind spots, sharing the messiness of personal growth, or talking to mission-driven authors and change-makers, this show offers tools, stories, and soulful conversations to help you show up as the man you're destined to become!
If you’re ready to stop performing and start becoming, tune in. We’re here for the messy, meaningful, and often hilarious journey of becoming the kind of man and human you actually want to be.
Created by the ManKind Project USA.
Hosted by Brandon Clift & Boysen Hodgson.
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252 - What Happens When Men Don’t Have Village - the Deep Masculine with Ian MacKenzie
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What are men really longing for?
In this rich and wide-ranging conversation, Boysen sits down with filmmaker, mythosomatic guide, and founder of The Mythic Masculine, Ian MacKenzie, to explore the deeper story underneath modern masculinity.
Together, they unpack the roots of mythopoetic men’s work, the cultural loss of village, the rise of the manosphere, and why so many men are searching for belonging, purpose, and deeper initiation.
Ian shares his own journey into men’s work through Iron John, the ManKind Project, and years spent studying myth, ritual, animism, and cultural regeneration with influential teachers like Stephen Jenkinson, Martin Shaw, and Michael Meade.
This episode explores:
- Why masculinity may be better understood as a strategy rather than a certainty
- The difference between mythopoetic men’s work and the manosphere
- What happens when men grow up without village, mentorship, and rites of passage
- Why grief, ritual, and brotherhood matter for modern men
- The role of myth in helping men reclaim meaning and purpose
- Emerging conversations around masculinity, identity, and cultural evolution
- Why healthy masculinity may depend on learning how to belong again
This conversation is thoughtful, challenging, and deeply hopeful.
Whether you’re new to men’s work or have been walking this path for years, Ian offers a compelling vision for how men might reconnect with themselves, each other, and the world.
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Some of the Authors & People we mentioned today:
- Bayo Akomolafe - https://www.bayoakomolafe.net/
- Stephen Jenkinson - https://orphanwisdom.com/about-stephen-jenkinson/
- Sophie Strand - https://sophiestrand.com/
- Riane Eisler - https://rianeeisler.com/
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