MACS Academy: The Sweet Smell of Success

In this episode of North American Ag Spotlight, host Chrissy Wozniak sits down with two distinguished guests, Russell Morgan and Paige Gilligan, to discuss the upcoming event hosted by Mac's Academy: The Sweet Smell of Success: A Deep Dive into Sugars of Science and Economic Impact. Scheduled for November 6th, 2024, in Fort Myers, Florida, this event will offer participants an in-depth exploration of the sugar industry through both educational sessions and field tours.

Russell Morgan, a seasoned agriculture consultant with over 38 years of experience and founder of Morgan Ag Consulting Services, and Paige Gilligan, the founder of Risk Mitigation Advisors and former Senior Vice President at Rabobank North America, bring their extensive expertise to the conversation. Both guests have dedicated their careers to educating the next generation of agricultural professionals. They emphasize the critical importance of practical, hands-on learning experiences in bridging the gap between theoretical knowledge and real-world application, a key mission of Mac's Academy.

During the episode, Russell and Paige share their personal backgrounds, providing insights into their journeys within the agricultural sector. Russell discusses his roots on a dairy and tobacco farm in Tennessee, which ultimately led him to a career in agriculture consulting. Paige, on the other hand, recounts her path from growing up in Indiana to establishing her consulting firm in California after a successful tenure at Rabobank North America.

The conversation then shifts to Mac's Academy, where Russell and Paige detail the inspiration behind its founding. The academy is dedicated to providing high-quality professional development and is particularly focused on empowering future generations of agricultural professionals. They preview the November event, which includes a tour of South Florida sugar cane farms, educational sessions on sugar production, and a crucial segment on disaster planning with Midwest Food Bank.

Throughout the discussion, the guests underscore the importance of education in the agricultural industry. Paige highlights the academy's mission to provide relevant and focused training, while Russell stresses that the academy's approach is not just about teaching what to think, but how to think. This educational philosophy aims to equip participants with the tools needed to address current challenges and prepare for future ones.

The upcoming event, titled The Sweet Smell of Success: A Deep Dive into Sugars of Science and Economic Impact, will take place on November 6th, 2024, in Fort Myers, Florida. The event promises a comprehensive experience, starting with a tour of sugar cane farming operations, followed by sessions on the economic impact of sugar, production costs, and disaster planning.

Listeners can tune in to North American Ag Spotlight on various platforms, including Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, Rumble, and Telegram. The episode encourages listeners to visit the Mac's Academy website for more information and to sign up for the November event. Chrissy also invites listeners to revisit a previous episode featuring Midwest Food Bank to get a teaser of what to expect in their disaster planning session.

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Transcript

00:00:02:23 - 00:00:23:08
Chrissy Wozniak
Hi and welcome to North American Tech Spotlight. I'm Kristi Wozniak. I am so excited to visit with our guest today. Not only are they both some of the most inspiring servants in our industry that I know, but I also get to call them friends.

00:00:23:10 - 00:00:56:11
Chrissy Wozniak
Russell Morgan possesses over 38 years of agriculture consulting experience, providing farm businesses, advisory services, and financial economic analyzes in his consulting practice. Mr. Morgan views his role as one of an educator. He touts himself more of an advisor than a consultant, aiming to teach clients how to address matters rather than just providing a solution for them. And Paige Gilligan previously served as senior vice president with Rabobank North America, located in Central Valley of California.

00:00:56:13 - 00:01:22:20
Chrissy Wozniak
She's now founder of Risk Mitigation and Advisors. She leverages her experiences in real property and personal property valuations to assist clients in understanding risk in their operations, while matching those risks to the client's needs to maximize value. And Paige is also an active member of California Women for agriculture. Today, we're going to discuss an event that's coming this November hosted by Mac's Academy.

00:01:22:22 - 00:01:43:11
Chrissy Wozniak
And Mac's is an agriculture learning company that provides training and resources for farmers, ranchers, consultants, and other ag professionals. And the conference is going to be held right up the road from me in Fort Myers, Florida, and is titled The Sweet Smell of Success A Deep Dive into sugars of Science and Economic Impact. With that, I would like to welcome Russ and Paige.

00:01:43:11 - 00:01:46:19
Chrissy Wozniak
Welcome, guys, and thank you so much for joining me today.

00:01:46:21 - 00:01:47:23
Russell Morgan
Thank you person.

00:01:48:00 - 00:01:50:14
Paige Gilligan
Thank you for the invite.

00:01:50:16 - 00:01:55:04
Chrissy Wozniak
So let's start with each of your backgrounds. Paige. Ladies first.

00:01:55:06 - 00:02:35:23
Paige Gilligan
Okay, great. Well, like I said, Christy, it's, wonderful to see you again. And, I look forward to seeing you in person in November. But, as for me, my background. I grew up in the Midwest. In Indiana. In a rural area. Attended Purdue University, where I graduated with a degree in ag business management, AG econ, and then later went and got my master's in business with a focus on e-business, which is doing business over the internet and electronically.

00:02:35:24 - 00:03:13:06
Paige Gilligan
So that helps me out in understanding a lot of, systems and, and how they work and how to make them work better. And then I just kept moving west and, worked for a couple of different banks and, had at a consulting firm for a little while in Arizona, then went back into the corporate world for about nine years with, robo and then, in 2018, started my own consulting company in, Clovis, California, called Risk Mitigation Advisors.

00:03:13:08 - 00:03:15:17
Chrissy Wozniak
Very good. And risk.

00:03:15:19 - 00:03:40:08
Russell Morgan
I was, born. Well, first of all, Chrissy, thank you again. Echo. What? Paige. Thank you for the opportunity to here today. I was born in, Asheville, North Carolina, up in the mountains. And so my father decided he was either going to be a dairy farmer or an insurance salesman. And if he was going to be a dairy farmer, he wasn't going to farm in the mountains of western North Carolina for very long.

00:03:40:08 - 00:04:05:05
Russell Morgan
So we moved to north middle Tennessee, a little place called Portland, Tennessee's, just north of Nashville, right on the Kentucky Tennessee state line. So I tell folks, I'm Mountain Bread Farm raised. And so on. That dairy farm is a dairy into back of farm. And I kid with folks, I said, tell them that with on a dairy tobacco farm, there's not very much time to, get into trouble.

00:04:05:05 - 00:04:33:06
Russell Morgan
But I had three brothers. And even though there wasn't much time, we found a way to get into a lot of trouble. Agree up. But from there, I, received my Bachelor of science degree in economics and almost had a double major in dairy, dairy science as well. Just a couple of courses. Short thought I was going to go back and be a dairy farmer, but, you'll find from this, example and the one immediately following, I'm a victim of poor timing.

00:04:33:08 - 00:04:52:16
Russell Morgan
So it was, May of 1982. I went back to the dairy farm, and anyone who knows the agricultural history knows that the 1980s were the farm financial crisis. Not a good time. Didn't, and, didn't take me long to see the the handwriting on the wall, if you would, that there wasn't going to be enough farm dairy.

00:04:52:16 - 00:05:16:14
Russell Morgan
What have you for an extra family to join that operation. So I went back and I received my master's degree in economics, primarily farm management, production economics, and, and fall. In September 1st, 1985, took a job with the University of Kentucky Extension as an area specialist in foreign management in far western Kentucky. It's called the purchase Area of Kentucky.

00:05:16:14 - 00:05:44:00
Russell Morgan
If you look at Kentucky, anything west of the land between two lakes, that's the purchase area. And I was given the marching orders to go out and help save the family farms once again at the end of the 1980s. Not a good time, but it was a, I would call it a baptism by fire. I learned a lot and even and what I learned during that time by the difficulties and just the just the rough times that were the Financial Times that we were there.

00:05:44:00 - 00:05:57:06
Russell Morgan
It helped me to this day with my clients and consulting work today. And so in 2003, I started my own business, my own consulting firm. I've been doing that ever since.

00:05:57:08 - 00:06:23:07
Chrissy Wozniak
Very good. And we met through, Asian American, Association of. Oh, I always get our American Society of Agriculture consultants, and I think I met you both there and then that's when I learned that page was also involved with American agro women. But, it's a very small world, isn't it? But, through that, I learned that you have Max Academy.

00:06:23:13 - 00:06:31:09
Chrissy Wozniak
So can you, tell me about that? Some of the history and what it does and where it comes from?

00:06:31:11 - 00:07:03:16
Paige Gilligan
Sure. Christy. Well, I'll start off and, really, this, this was a wrestles baby. And it we have we've been years and colleagues, you know, for for many years and it we got together and, you know, we were just thinking what is missing. There's something missing in the, you know, the adult education piece as far as ag consulting is concerned.

00:07:03:18 - 00:07:42:01
Paige Gilligan
And so we got together and we said, hey, we can do this. We both have a passion for agriculture, for education, for teaching. You know, people to to be able to handle more things themselves and to be more educated in general. So our mission and, at Max Academy is dedicated to expanding the horizons of future agricultural generations by providing high quality, relevant and focused professional development training.

00:07:42:03 - 00:08:16:11
Paige Gilligan
And we really want to focus on the aspects of future agricultural generations. Okay, so we have an aging population for ag producers, and so we want to be able to make sure that the younger generation coming up has the tools that they need, because the world is, is changing and the educational needs, you know, vary widely across all, agricultural consultants.

00:08:16:13 - 00:08:18:10
Chrissy Wozniak
Right? Yeah. And that's beautiful.

00:08:18:12 - 00:08:20:13
Paige Gilligan
So rest did you have any. Yeah.

00:08:20:15 - 00:08:48:07
Russell Morgan
Anything additional I would offer an addendum if you would. And echo number one. What, what Paige mentioned and stated and as, as Paige stated, we've known one another for probably longer than Paige cares to remember, but we met through the American Society of Egg Consultants, or Isac, is what we call it, for sure. We work to gather on committees, various committees, I mean, directors together, officers together.

00:08:48:07 - 00:09:22:09
Russell Morgan
In fact, I think Paige, you're the only two time president of a secondary court. So, anyway, so we we've interacted, through Asec and one of the committees that we, we spent quite a bit of time together is a continuing education committee. And in that what from that committee, what prompted a discussion? And I conceived this idea a few years ago, but and I'll give you a little bit of history on this, that there seem to be a dearth, as Paige mentioned, shortage.

00:09:22:11 - 00:09:52:15
Russell Morgan
Can, professional development education, educational opportunities for AG, for fellow agriculture consultants, farmers, ranchers and other, cultural professionals. So, I mentioned that idea to Paige sometime during our after hours fellowship, and if you will, you know, where you sit around and you you have discussions and you talk about things that are kind of topics. And she bought into this idea and latched on to it.

00:09:52:17 - 00:10:18:10
Russell Morgan
And, and indicated she would be she would like to be a part of it. And my mama didn't raise a fool. And with pages, her intelligence, her experience and her enthusiasm and energy, of course I said, yes, let's do this. And so that's where it started. And we've been developing it, the concepts, the concept and concepts over the last couple of years.

00:10:18:10 - 00:10:46:19
Russell Morgan
And this year we're launching, the initiative. Starting with courses, educational opportunities for fellow and consultants, and we'll grow it from there. And in addition to those, or excuse me, virtual. And we have one lab, our, course offered prior to the annual conference in Fort Myers this year. We also, conceptualized developing of some egg professional development egg tours.

00:10:46:23 - 00:11:11:01
Russell Morgan
And that's what the one that we're discussing today in Fort Myers. And immediately after the annual, conference of Asec. And so that's where that's a little bit of history of how this came about. And the with regard to the name, my company's name is Morgan, a consulting service, and that's where I call it Mac, for sure. So in our initial discussions, I said, well, I'm thinking about, calling it Max Academy.

00:11:11:06 - 00:11:15:19
Russell Morgan
And once again, we, we stayed with that. And that's where that name came from.

00:11:15:21 - 00:11:44:01
Chrissy Wozniak
That's perfect. And I can say you, knowing you both and knowing you both together, you compliment each other so well in this, and, and I know it will be very successful. And, and I also have to say that I forgot to mention, at the beginning of this question, that I think it was actually the wonderful Warren Clark that, that got us all together at the very beginning, just in case he was listening and, and and I had forgotten to give him that credit.

00:11:44:01 - 00:12:01:21
Chrissy Wozniak
So, from NPR. Yeah. So tell me more about the offerings. What is the how are these educational? Components served up and how are they, you know, consumed by.

00:12:01:23 - 00:12:33:21
Paige Gilligan
It so the way that we decide designed the company is we wanted our courses to be affordable, convenient, flexible, and still remained that high quality. So all of our courses are taught by experts in the field, and they cover a wide range of topics. The, and of course, both Russell and I, are instructors for, for different courses covering, different specialties.

00:12:33:23 - 00:13:08:21
Paige Gilligan
But the courses are going to be available both online and, by online I mean, a virtual learning. So they are not self-paced, at least not yet. But we, we really believe in the one on one training connections that, these courses provide and even know that they're virtual. Having that still face to face contact is is really important for adult learners.

00:13:08:23 - 00:13:53:05
Paige Gilligan
And that's, so we'll have the ability to, do virtual as well as in-person because some of the courses there, a tiered. So you would have like a principals and then a practices. So the principals, we would be able to handle virtually do virtual classroom and then the practical and practicum part of it will be in person to make sure that everything we're still getting that, personalization and giving, you know, immediate feedback with multiple people.

00:13:53:07 - 00:13:59:17
Chrissy Wozniak
Okay. Very good. And so who is your target audience?

00:13:59:19 - 00:14:23:02
Russell Morgan
Well, we go, Go ahead. Thank you. Okay. All right. The target audience was, agriculture consultants, which, as I mentioned earlier, that was the initial conceptualization of who are the target. But we also are looking at, farmers, ranchers, agribusiness, people like, fish farmers or other agribusiness, if you would, as well as, agricultural professionals.

00:14:23:06 - 00:14:46:12
Russell Morgan
And that can come in the form of perhaps egg lenders and folks that that work in the ag space with agricultural producers. Let's see, I think that that's, the majority of our initial target audience, but with the opportunity will be there. Oh. I'm sorry. Agtech, is another area that we plan to, to target as well.

00:14:46:14 - 00:15:12:07
Russell Morgan
With because that is certainly, developing and will be continuing development for developing for some time. The, the specific thing, technical expertise, if you would need to implement to analyze, the, quite a variety of agricultural, technology. And so that is another target audience that we're aiming for. Did I miss anything? Page.

00:15:12:09 - 00:15:46:03
Paige Gilligan
No. I just wanted to to add to that, we we found that the courses that are out there for professionals, specifically agri professionals, are, are more classroom based and textbook based. And, our training, the way we have differentiated ourselves is that it is more on a practical level. So here are the, you know, the principles behind it.

00:15:46:05 - 00:16:28:21
Paige Gilligan
And then how does that actually apply to what you do day to day and, and to, to help bridge that gap? For adult learners. Because as adults we learn differently and we believe that it's that's an important piece that has been missing in the education field. But at least the ag education field for a while. And so by, by tying it directly to something that the, attendees will do on a regular basis, we believe that we will, have have a better outcome and the the students will have a better outcome.

00:16:28:23 - 00:16:36:07
Chrissy Wozniak
Yeah. Great points. So tell me about the November 6th event. I'm very excited for this event.

00:16:36:09 - 00:17:17:05
Paige Gilligan
Yes, I am very excited as well. And it's called The Sweet Smell of Success. A deep dive into sugars. Science and economic impact. So it's going to be Wednesday, November 6th of 2024, in Fort Myers, Florida. And we are going to start off the day with a tour, from Raising Cane Tours. So we're really excited. They provide a, a tour of South Florida, where we'll see local sugar cane farming, milling, processing and all of the operations up close.

00:17:17:07 - 00:17:45:07
Paige Gilligan
So I personally do not have experience with sugar cane. So that's why I'm really excited, to go over to the East Coast and, and see what they have to offer. But that's the morning. And then in the afternoon, the reason why we call it a professional development tour is that it's not just a tour. Okay? We have, a professional education that is provided along with it.

00:17:45:07 - 00:18:27:03
Paige Gilligan
That's why we say that the deep dive, because it's we're not just going to be on a bus and traveling around taking pictures like tourists. Will actually be, there will be people with us that will be answering, some in-depth questions on the industry overall. And then in the afternoon, we have been able to get some top, top people in, the sugar industry to help us go over the, macro impact of the sugar industry in the U.S and that's Doctor Karen DeLong.

00:18:27:05 - 00:18:53:10
Paige Gilligan
And then, Doctor Michael Del Liberto is going to be covering the sugar production cost and returns. So it's not just going to be, you know, like going over reading the cost studies that we can all get online. He is going to help us understand the whys behind it, as well as some decision tools that, he and some colleagues have developed.

00:18:53:12 - 00:19:20:15
Paige Gilligan
And being able to do a compare it of analysis, as a consultant, that's, that that's very important. And then we'll be wrapping it up with, crisis and disaster planning development from Midwest Food Bank. So one of the things that is in agriculture and Chrissy being in Florida, you know, especially with the, current hurricane season, you need to have a disaster plan.

00:19:20:15 - 00:19:43:23
Paige Gilligan
And so we thought it would be, a very, you know, very great to have Midwest Food Bank, who participates in disaster and crisis management, be able to give us some tools and tips on how to handle that. Russell, did I miss anything?

00:19:44:01 - 00:20:11:21
Russell Morgan
No, no. Paige, you covered it very well. I would just an addendum on the, to presenters on doctor DeLong and Doctor Del Alberto. Karen DeLong. She's a University of Tennessee, professor. However, her background, she grew up on a sugar beet farm up in Michigan. And so she has a history of research and experience and the sugar industry and the sugar industry is more than sugar cane.

00:20:11:21 - 00:20:36:03
Russell Morgan
But we'll be seeing we'll be visiting sugar cane farms in Central Florida, but, sugar beet. And she will cover this as well. In her presentation. Is it also include sugar beet production? And actually sugar beet provide just a tad more than 50% of the total sugar, production, if you will, or not, if you will. But production in the, in the US.

00:20:36:09 - 00:20:56:11
Russell Morgan
So Karen will be here. We're we're very fortunate to have, doctor DeLong speaking with us and in our, in our discussion interview with Doctor La Berto, he was very impressive, very knowledgeable. And we're we've we have a coup in the land in those two containers.

00:20:56:13 - 00:21:27:01
Chrissy Wozniak
Yeah. It's going to be a very good day. And and I'll add as well about Midwest Food Bank. They it was mind blowing how efficient they are, how we were in a complete disaster where people couldn't get gas, couldn't leave their homes. We had no electricity for 12 days, no anything, no connection to the outside world. And somehow they got our city and our food, and it was all just lined up in the churches and ready to go out.

00:21:27:01 - 00:21:47:05
Chrissy Wozniak
They have a plan and they do it very well. So I'm excited to hear, even though I've experienced what they've done, I'm really excited to hear how they do it. I if anyone wants a teaser, I did do a podcast episode with them after the hurricane, which would have been two years ago, would have been end of October 2022.

00:21:47:05 - 00:22:07:22
Chrissy Wozniak
So if you want to scroll back in the podcasts, you can find, Midwest food back and get a bit of a teaser of what we're going to see, and hear from them. So very excited about that. So what's what's in the future for Max Academy? What what, do you guys see? Going forward?

00:22:07:24 - 00:22:49:09
Paige Gilligan
We have plans. Like Russ was saying, the different, target audiences that we have, building out just more robust training, practical training. And that will be given from experts in the field. And not from, I hate to say it, but not from somebody who just sits behind a desk at a university, or an extension office all day, people that are out in the field working and providing it, being able to answer some of those hard questions that, you know, that that people have.

00:22:49:11 - 00:23:11:09
Paige Gilligan
And again, looking at the ideas of, Agtech, forestry, fishing, agribusiness as well as production. And, Russell, I'll let you talk about, you know, some of the actual, classes that, you know, we have plant.

00:23:11:11 - 00:23:42:21
Russell Morgan
With regard to, let's just say farmers, ranchers and agribusiness. The you there will be financial, analysis, financial planning, and succession planning, transition planning. Those are courses that that are planned. And we, as Paige mentioned, we will, engage, experts in those particular fields to present, a practical education is what I call it.

00:23:42:23 - 00:24:12:20
Russell Morgan
I think the term that I've used sometimes is not, what to think, but how to think, because you usually use the educational platform, the educational, practical, information, if you would, to not just, view one particular, matter, but how to analyze future matters and. Well, and so that's the conceptualization, the focus, the, the idea, if you would the philosophy probably a better with and behind Max Academy.

00:24:12:22 - 00:24:24:04
Chrissy Wozniak
Right. Yeah. Yeah I, I love that you've got a bright shining future. I know it. It's a where can people find more information.

00:24:24:06 - 00:24:56:23
Paige Gilligan
We, we just recently launched our website, so we're online@max-academy.com and all of our professional development tours and our classes are there. You can sign up, it's an easy online payment system. And then we will send you the, the information on any of the classes or the tours that you sign up, sign up for it.

00:24:57:00 - 00:25:25:09
Chrissy Wozniak
Perfect. I have one last question for each of you. What's drawn me to both of you is your your clear? Desire to serve our industry and not just in your work. You both have extensive volunteer commitments as well. And, being, you know, both members of American Society of Agriculture consultants and then California Women for agriculture.

00:25:25:11 - 00:25:33:13
Chrissy Wozniak
What what drives each of you to have this servant mentality? Why do you do what you do? Paige, you go first.

00:25:33:15 - 00:25:36:23
Paige Gilligan
I'm going to get I'm going to let Russell go first on that one.

00:25:37:00 - 00:25:38:17
Chrissy Wozniak
Okay.

00:25:38:19 - 00:26:13:06
Russell Morgan
Well, Paige has a wider array. Of of service. Mine is a little more narrowed, but it's. Well, actually, both of us are Kent, so I don't know if it's more intense, but certainly intense. Growing up in the farm communities, farm community. Excuse me. Having worked my entire adult life in agriculture, working directly with farm producers, as I mentioned, during some starting my, professional career, some very dark times and production agriculture.

00:26:13:08 - 00:26:33:15
Russell Morgan
And so you get to get close to those producers and that stays with you even after the times get better. And so you have this, this, this longing. If you are along and it can has develop, if you will, to continue to serve, of course you have to earn a living. You got to turn the lights on, you have to do all that.

00:26:33:20 - 00:26:58:13
Russell Morgan
But more so that more than that, we have a longing to to give back, if you would, to the industry and I have chosen, American Society of Agriculture consultants. I'm involved in another professional organization that I will, vice president this year, the Farm Financial Standards Council, which, which focuses on financial analysis, managerial accounting and that type of thing.

00:26:58:13 - 00:27:16:09
Russell Morgan
But once again, with producers and and the idea there is provide producers information so they can make better management decisions. And so that's where my desire and striving, if you would in all income from.

00:27:16:11 - 00:27:18:04
Chrissy Wozniak
Wonderful.

00:27:18:06 - 00:27:51:24
Paige Gilligan
And I would say, you know, I echo a Russell on, you know, his, his thoughts and for me, it's so important to to teach about agriculture. There's so many people that have no idea where their food, where their clothes, the fact that the lumber that they get at the big box store is agriculture. The you know, it.

00:27:52:01 - 00:28:19:23
Paige Gilligan
There's so much out there and it it touches so many people. And that's really, you know, why I have the desire to, you know, I call it educating. You know, to to others. I'm, I'm involved in a lot of organizations. And a lot of them are really focused. I, I was looking at this the other day.

00:28:20:00 - 00:29:05:05
Paige Gilligan
I really focused on educating and, so California women, for agriculture, American agro women, that that together, you know, they focus on the legislative aspects and, the educational piece, I'm on the AG, AG Lenders Society of California, and we provide, educational opportunities to lenders and other industry professionals. So, like title people, lawyers, accountants, but things that are more focused towards the lending area and what is important in, in that aspect.

00:29:05:07 - 00:29:59:17
Paige Gilligan
And, and I've been involved with, with many other organizations, through the years. But to me, it's all about sharing the wonderful aspects of, of agriculture and helping people relate, to it because we're we're so far off, we're not connected to it like we used to be. And, just trying to get across the fact that, you know, chocolate milk doesn't come from brown cows is, one of my, one of my main goals, and that they know and starting with the, with the kids going and teaching children, what agriculture is about and all of the opportunities that are available, there's there's so many opportunities and, and agriculture is very progressive in,

00:29:59:19 - 00:30:14:07
Paige Gilligan
technology, which a lot of people don't think about. And that's where, I try to work and mentor kids that are in Stem programs and, with a focus on the agricultural.

00:30:14:07 - 00:30:35:05
Chrissy Wozniak
Aspect, I love it. That's wonderful. No wonder I'm friends with you guys. Do surround yourself with inspiring people. That's what I always like to do. So thank you both so much for joining me. Great conversation. And and again, I can't wait till till November.

00:30:35:07 - 00:30:36:24
Paige Gilligan
Thanks so much, Christy.

00:30:37:01 - 00:30:37:16
Russell Morgan
Thank you. Christy.

00:30:37:17 - 00:30:57:10
Chrissy Wozniak
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00:30:57:12 - 00:31:01:15
Chrissy Wozniak
Have a great day!

00:31:01:17 - 00:31:02:12
Chrissy Wozniak
Awesome.