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Social Wisdom ft Dennis Campbell (@MrBiznTech)

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On this week's show I'm joined by Dennis Campbell to talk about his entrepreneurial journey and the good and bad of social media oversharing.


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Speaker 1

yo what's good . Welcome back to another episode of the hitting nice podcast , as always I'm your host your brother jay white .

Speaker 1

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Dennis Campbell's Tech Journey

Speaker 1

today . Me and this guy went to high school together and he I got a fellow tone twister , fellow Corner Ritter alumni on the podcast , my guy , mr Dennis Campbell himself . How you doing , bro .

Speaker 2

Man , I'm chilling . Chilling , bro , I can't complain . Man Locked in , man Trying to make the best of everything , man Loving life , that's what I can really say for real . Yes , sir , mr , in and Out the of everything man , love and light .

Speaker 1

That's what I can really say for real . Yes , sir , mr , in and Out the Airports , mr Meetings , mr Busy , it's a good time . It's a good thing to be busy right now . So I wanted to get you on the podcast , because me and you have talked about it before , and just speak about the things that you have going on . We also had I'll bring it up later in the podcast , but a post of mine speaking about social media and you had some great insight to that as well and a great viewpoint that I think should be spoken about now , now that we're pretty much really , really in-depth and advanced with how social media has , how far it has come and some of the , the benefits of it , as well as some of the , the overdoing it .

Speaker 1

I will call , I will call it and some of the , the negativity and negative things that can come from the use of social media . But first , um always give my guests the floor to basically tell their backstory and allow them , allow them to have the floor in order to tell their story so that it's not told for them . So , for anybody that may not know who you are , who are you and what it is and how have you come to get to this point ? Uh , in your life , in your career , and what it is that you're doing . So the floor is yours , my boy .

Speaker 2

For sure I appreciate you for having me on the platform , brody , for sure , for sure , man , I love what you've done . The consistency with it is one of the reasons I've started to get to this podcast . I wanted to definitely take the opportunity to just come link up with you . So appreciate you for having me on the platform , for sure , absolutely , bro . And then so myself , man , personally , man , when I now start looking back on like who I am because I've been talking about this a decent amount recently it's more about me knowing that I had a purpose for a really long time and that purpose was like this thing that kind of just kept me focused , even though there were so many other things that could have distracted me on the pathway I was on . So , like my lane , I chose this pathway of going down a technology-driven lane as an entrepreneur very early in my life . It was probably like when I'm 13 to 14 years old I'm passionate about going in a certain direction , but I'm just reaching for different things that may not be as accessible to me in the environment and the space that I was growing in . So , ultimately for me , like I started out in St Louis and I found passion in something , but I was . I was really entrepreneurially driven first , so I'm more this kind of guy that's really liking the economics of everything . But then there's this lane of technology . That's an emerging thing that very few people in my community are taking full advantage of , and I'm just like and you remember , like this there was a moment in our high school career when facebook like took over and it was like everybody in our community , like inside of our school , everybody was on this platform . So now there's this platform that's digital , and we actually got to see it happen in real time . It was like no , everything was like you got to be at a location or you got to call people on the phone and then this thing happened

From Engineer to Entrepreneur

Speaker 2

that like just said okay , everybody , everybody can commune here , all right .

Speaker 2

When I saw that what it did to me at 14 years old , it was like within six months I was like figuring out who made this , like how did they do this ? Then , after I figured out , it was some college kids . That's when I was like okay , I know I'm in the right spot , cause I'm just in my head . I'm like let's get to college , let's go figure out how to do stuff like this . So this is just the spark of the seed of what like has taken me these past like 15 years professionally . I'm just like no man if a college kid can do something like this with the Internet . Man , and you remember , like when we're doing this , our parents , the faculty , the administration , they have no idea this stuff is happening . They don't even know what this is . They're just like get this thing , it's a distraction .

Speaker 2

They're looking at all this stuff like this and I'm looking at it like no , no , no , no , no man , even if y'all not telling me that this is the thing , I know this about to be the thing and I need to figure this thing out . And that just became my thing . For like them next , like from my sophomore junior year on up , I was just all right , let me figure out how to get into these places . I go to college and when I moved to Atlanta from St Louis , I go to Georgia Tech and I'm right in the middle of Atlanta and I'm learning high level technology , research and all of these different things . I go and study to be an engineer . So I become an engineer in that time period and it's one of those things where engineering opens up doors for you that these were the kind of doors that I needed , from my perspective , to be broadened . So ultimately I took that pathway of an engineer , but ultimately I was always an entrepreneur even before I was an engineer . So most engineers , their style , is more I'm just going to keep solving problems , solving problems , solving problems , and that's how , when I was in my engineering mode , I had to be a really , really good problem solver and assistant designer and all of these things , and it allowed me to really really define and harden some of my skills . But my natural , my innate desire to want to be in the best position I can possibly be in economically always drives me to want to be an entrepreneur and figuring out how to get the most equitable share of whatever I'm putting my energy and time into , if that makes sense . So that balance is something that you know what I'm saying . It's conflicting when you're in the education system , but ultimately I was naturally just gifted enough to just tap into the frequencies of use the education system to open the doors up for the other places that you're looking to be in , because it's very confined in the way that it was guiding . So I ultimately , you know I I've always excelled in education , but I just always looked at it as a place that , um , it benefited me so much in so many ways . But I know that if I didn't take my wings outside of the education environment , I wouldn't have been able to be the type of entrepreneur and business owner that I wanted to become . So that ultimately opened doors up for me at the end of Georgia Tech .

Speaker 2

I have some amazing relationships . One of my guys , he he had some relationships in the entertainment industry . We start this platform in around 2012 , 2013 . It's called Yo Pima . Ti invested a decent amount of money in that platform with us . This is like my first thing out of college . So we build some patented , innovative and it allows us to you know what I'm saying Do some really , really impactful things in the market , and from there I learned a lot of stuff .

Speaker 2

You know what I'm saying . It just kind of started this like large scale . What's the next biggest innovative thing I can do in technology ? Kind of cyclone from 2012 all the way up to like right now , and it's just kind of keep ballooning and ballooning . Um , and I'm blessed bro .

Speaker 2

I just I just feel like it's one of those things where I kind of pursued a certain lane that allowed me to kind of get into a lot of different industries . Um , like since that company that I kind of pivoted into politics , I went into like multiple different verticals in social media . Um , eventually got into like the , the nft and crypto space and going in all of these different verticals , it's just allowing me to have insight in different ways . Um , that has now allowed me to remove my like I'm still an entrepreneur because I'm always building things , but , like , my mindset is now more of an executive , where I literally am always thinking about what are the systems that I need to have in place to keep this stuff running at the highest and most scalable level ? How can I keep teams and groups organized ? And I actually like this spot a lot more . It's just a different shift , because you actually have to kind of remove your hands from things a little bit more and kind of let stuff breathe a little bit . So I'm in that process of adjusting .

Speaker 2

But me , all in all , now , bro , I'm a family man first , so , like me , my wife , we're out in California now . Like I was in Atlanta for like 12 years , I moved out to Cali at the top of 2020 . And we're literally in the process

Learning from Business Setbacks

Speaker 2

of just building our family , building a foundation , and I'm really locked in on doing it from a couple of different verticals . So technology and business have always been my things . Now I'm really just focused on kind of being something in our community that kind of can show a more just , diversified way to see opportunity in the tech industry , because now that I've kind of had the opportunity to see companies sell in a number of different scenarios , I've had the opportunity to be a part of building really high power technology and being a part of these really large scale tech companies . It's allowed me to see things that just has brought in my perspective in ways that I'm Just living in California shows me things that I know about the tech industry , that I know people from our community to understand , and right now , while I've spent all of these years really being focused on just solving the problems to get access to the right systems and networks and pieces , now it's more about me understanding that me solving problems now becomes more intentional about just the types of communities I feel like need to be taking more advantage of what's happening in this industry right now because it's it's like it's like a gold rush , um , and I'm just more looking to be more of a , a vehicle than a conduit for our community to come into this gold rush . But there's just things that we all just got to see a little bit Cause , like I'm now .

Speaker 2

I have I I have a consulting firm , so I do two big things . I didn't talk about the things I do right now . I'm gonna talk about that and we could just dive into everything else , but the last two things I do . I primarily do two things . I have a service vehicle which is my consulting firm . My consulting firm is called dny enterprises literally um . All I've done in that company is package my 15 to 17 years of experience in the tech industry and my experience , my knowledge , my technical and engineering skills . I package them into a consulting and coaching service and I just help people like . I've had upwards of about 20 clients throughout the past year and a half or so running this business , but all I do is help people that want to figure out how to make technology an asset , figure out how to understand how to do that more effectively . Um , I help them build out management and development teams , of course , to build technology , but also help them understand how to make sure that they can maximize the technology they develop and build . So I'm not just helping people build things that end up not being optimized in the most effective way , and it's really just so . Instead of me operating as a development firm , I operate as a consultant . That company operates and I just help people um , and I also do coaching and I do um public speaking and um . I have courses now , all those different types of things , and I'm just focused on developing um and now a lot of what I'm doing is really just trying to get more exposure to that platform and that vehicle because , um it's working , like I'm helping people , um , I just know that now it needs to , kind of like I need to expand the reach of what that is . So that's one of my big things . That's really just how I'm using what I've learned to help other people come into this industry , in this space , um , from whatever lane they operate from . Um .

Speaker 2

And then my other vertical is what I'm doing in the immersive tech space , one another world experiences . We're building out um premium , accessible um immersive technology experience spaces . So basically , you put on VR headsets , you go in and not just play , shoot them up games and all this kind of other stuff . You kind of have the opportunity to explore a number of different verticals with the technology . Do it in a comfortable and kind of like communal place . You and maybe a few of your people it's more like a premium kind of top golf , kind of like communal plays . You and maybe a few of your people it's more like a premium kind of Topgolf kind of vibe that gives you the opportunity to go in and like do a number of different things with VR tech , whether it's gaming , whether it's film , art , there's a number of different verticals . Education , all these different things become opportunities for us to kind of build verticals in that space . So that's the other primary thing I'm focused on right now . We're looking to open up a spot later on this summer .

Speaker 1

In the loop we're developing a couple of different things to really bring a certain amount , bring myself into the community as more of a service vehicle in the conduit to a space that I feel like more of us need to be in . Absolutely yeah , that is all and then some of what that man does . He has a , a hat in every realm , it seems , and I'm gonna , we're gonna get back to that . That gold rush , um , that , that gold rush comment because there is a gold rush , especially with , I mean , ai has always been around , but now it's more so prevalent in everything . Whether you want to accept it or not , it is everything .

Speaker 1

Made a great point about the entrepreneur , uh , aspect of it , where you say you know , it's not just entrepreneur entrepreneurship , I'm also an executive and I think that's something that , um , yes , entrepreneurship is glamorized a lot . You know , gotta work for yourself , gotta own something , gotta have something and things like that . Um , but you also say , like you said , you're also executive , you're also the entry level employee . Essentially , you're all of these things . So , from your perspective , what are some things that you have found in your entrepreneur journey that were eye opening and was like ?

Speaker 1

all right okay , okay , I feel like I belong to things that were not so something so great , where you was like , damn , I didn't even consider that , damn , I didn't see . You know , I didn't see this coming , because it is . There are peaks and valleys when it comes to that , for sure , you know . So speak to speak to some of those uh situations and kind of that , that testimony in regards to , um , just the eyeopening uh experience and landscape that is entrepreneurship .

Speaker 2

No for sure , bro . Um , so yeah , entrepreneurship is definitely a rollercoaster . It's literally I describe it as a roller coaster . There's forever ongoing and peaks and valleys intensify as you continue to grow and get better . So as you grow up in levels , in entrepreneurship , all it is the highs get much higher and the lows tend to . If you get better , the lows get lower , but they get lower slower If you get better .

Speaker 2

At the way that you're trying to do this , because you know , know this stuff is coming . Like I now have developed this thing where I brace myself for the impact of evolution . Like it's like when you're going so hard , you know there's going to be times where your energy will end up being depleted . So focus on energy non-depletion systems the whole time you're going hard , figure out how to balance out your mind , figure out how to keep your spirit and your physical and everything balanced out . So when I could talk about some of the heart , like this is where I'm at now . Like I'm at this place now where I am very intentional about the balance .

Speaker 2

But in the past for me to grow , it was more . There was plenty of trial and error . For me to get here , it was more like I had to go to the valley multiple times . I had to thrust myself into environments where I'm the the lowest man on the totem for me to figure out how to understand things that are leaps and bounds and experience and knowledge ahead of where I'm currently at . So like I'm jumping around the people that have 20 to 30 to 40 years of experience and saying how can I absorb as much of that as I can ? And that comes with a whole lot , because once you do that it's like I'm not really just the I'm . I like learning , I like getting information , but I do not like doing it without application . So if I go , get around a bunch of people that are figuring out ways to maximize all of these different things strategies , systems , personalities , relationships they're maximizing all of this stuff in a number of different ways .

Speaker 2

So I would say probably the first time that I really probably hit a valley professionally , I would say it was a time when literally this was probably right after I got out of college . So I'll go after when I first started my professional career , when we launched the first company that we had that was supported by the entertainment industry . It was in an amazing position for us to do a lot of amazing things . We were making innovative technology . So , like my focus has always been , I don't want to try to solve the problem of yesterday or the problem of tomorrow , because if I can work on that kind of stuff , eventually I can maybe catch a curve or be able to be a part of super fast hyper growth . So I'm always working in that space and I've had the opportunity to do a lot of those things like see the hyper growth .

Speaker 2

But before that happened I was in my first technology company and I'm fresh out of the research labs at Georgia Tech . We come out of the research labs and we're really really good at making dope technology and innovating and coming up with really dope ideas that solve problems that might be really really far away , but people know they're coming . If you do that and you're too far away from the market and you're trying to start a business , there's a dilemma that you have because you solve this problem that might be a good solution

The Social Media Pendulum

Speaker 2

for five years from now , but right now people are looking for solutions that are for right now or maybe 12 to 16 months from now . So if you're looking for somebody to invest in this in the long term and the solution isn't scalable to until this later on . So , like something happened .

Speaker 2

So we had a , we had a technology . It was a . You know what geofencing is ? You heard of geofencing before , correct . So geofencing is a technology that , like in the early 2011 , 2012 , it was in its infancy stages . So me and some of the guys that I was in school with at Georgia Tech , we chose to start trying to make a business and we made it around some comparative methods of geofencing . So basically saying , there's this many people at this location , there's this many people at this location , you can take this data and do almost anything you want to do , whether it's advertising targeting , whether it's all these different types of things . So we created some systems and methods that got us patented around that strategy .

Speaker 2

With geofencing , we built a social media platform that worked with the entertainment industry really , really well , but we had to literally build the geofence infrastructure , which , while we raised some money , we didn't raise enough money to build the entire geofence infrastructure across the whole of America . So that caused our business to have a lot of different bottlenecks and different things , because it literally was a growing business . There was a lot of good things that were happening , but ultimately , the cost and the infrastructure , the technology , given that technology hadn't advanced enough for it to be as feasible as it is currently . We were in a tough spot in business . So , while we had some good technology , a good solution focused on a really good problem , the infrastructure wasn't in place for us and we were building without accounting for what the infrastructure would do to our business , which ultimately cost us . It definitely forced us to have to pivot out of the business . So , after 2012 , 2013 , we're pivoting out of their business , but we're walking away with patented technologies and understanding of the market in a different kind of way .

Speaker 2

But this was a hard time , if you understand , after somebody invested a lot of money in you . We did deals with Live Nation and we're going on tour with Dwayne and 2 Chainz and all this kind of other stuff . They're taking our application all around the country . All of these things are happening for us . But there's a limit in the back end infrastructure of our business model that there was nothing that we could do about it other than probably go raise another maybe 15 or 20 million dollars , which that wasn't that . We weren't at that place in the company where that made all the sense in the world yet .

Speaker 2

So it was a tough spot , um , but yeah , that taught me a whole lot . That taught me that , um , I need to keep learning . But one of the greatest things that I took from being in college like georgia tech just taught me not really like you learn a lot of stuff in college like you , of course , like I feel like networks and people that you meet in college are really good . But , like , one of the things that I really took from there was how to learn , how to keep learning , how to be okay with going through the hard parts of learning hard things and having you can't just read to learn certain things Like you literally have to go do some stuff . You got to run some tests , you have to . You have to actually actively pursue whatever you're trying to get accomplished . So that taught me how to like deal with difficult things .

Speaker 2

But that difficult moment right there , when we literally had a business that was growing but had something that was like a stake in the side of it that prevented it from actually soaring something about business in that moment , that was very tough but it ultimately kind of prepared especially my mind for the ability to adapt to almost anything that comes to you in business and then ultimately now , every time a trial comes , I just I look at it different every time it happens . So now it's more , but I I lose the like there was , maybe jitters , the first few times I'm taking large-scale risks . When I'm a younger man and when I'm um understanding that these risks are affecting everything around me to eat those of all of my family . Like everything I'm doing is not a it's never a just me decision . Like my decisions are all always impacting a whole bunch of other people . So now I I'm more cognizant of it now , but I'm ultimately at a level where , even when I look back at the other stuff , that's probably one of the biggest moments . But it's happened multiple times since , like 2012 , 2013 , when that happened in in different phases .

Speaker 2

But , like , if I think about the last five years , I'm in a tough , I can be in tough moments , but then I can just look at the full spectrum and it just kind of lets me know that , man , the tough moments only weigh so much against how many other great things God has like just consistently put into your pathway , how many great opportunities . People like these things , like this , and I just like I put everything on a scale every time I think about the tough stuff . This is really how I deal with it . You know what I'm saying ? It's more like man . I could put it all on a scale and I could process this as man . I'm dealing with something tough right now . Or I could look at the last five years of data , the last 15 years of data , 20 years of data , and be like , yeah , man , you done dealt with a lot of tough stuff . You feel me ?

Speaker 2

Absolutely when it comes to being that , but yeah , that's probably one of the biggest , most critical moments as an innovative business creator and an entrepreneur . It ultimately taught me how to pivot , but also keep being open to learn , how to be more effective at how you're bringing things to the market .

Speaker 1

Yeah , for sure . And I'm with you on the terms of okay , how is this applicable to everyday life too ? How is it actually going to impact the day-to-day processes , the day-to-day lives of individuals ? Is it going to make their lives better ? Is it going to make their lives better ? Is it going to make some situation better ? Are you going to foresee or forecast some situation that somebody may not have even thought of for sure ? Um and that just speaks to the experience outside the classroom like you can be extreme , we all know we you can be extremely book smart or whatever , but until you're in a situation where it's essentially live rounds or whatnot , all the book smarts , it really doesn't matter . Until you can apply it to a real life situation or some some sort of case study or something where you have to apply it , you know . So I'm , I definitely am proud to hear that . You know , even with that situation , with the , the geofencing , um , it was an experience for you and you learned from that . And you came away like damn , I got a patent for this . I know I can't make , we're capable of building this , this infrastructure for this . Okay , it didn't work out in this space , but we can take this and apply it to someone else , and that speaks back to um , the evolution , and that's that's just with people , and that's with business and that's with anything in general , being able to be flexible and be able to change with with the times , especially from 2012 to where we are now .

Speaker 1

Um , like you said , when we were in high school , social media had been around in various shapes and forms . It was Black Planet and MySpace , but Facebook was really the thing that took it to the next level . Like we say , there was a barrier of entry . You had to have a school email address to even get on the platform . You know , now everybody , literally and they mama can get on the platform , but before then it was this isolated community basically built . It was built around your school because I'm carter , carter ritter had his own community and then , as everybody joined , you know , joined this , that and the third it just expanded and expanded and people wanted to know what it was . What was it about ? It kind of also reminds me , during the pandemic , of how Clubhouse came around as well . Clubhouse was invite only , and then it just blew out Unfortunately , it fizzled out , in my opinion only . And then it just blew out and unfortunately , it fizzled out in my opinion , um , but um , speaking of social media , like I said , I wanted to touch on this topic .

Speaker 1

Um , you know , I made a status , I want to say , maybe like two months ago or whatever , basically centered around the fact that we share so much and it could be a good thing and a bad thing , but we share so much , or can share so much of ourselves on on social media to to the extent where sometimes I think now that I'm at 36 , sometimes it's like I feel like the pendulum has swung so far to the right , where we share everything or offer our insight on on everything , like specifically , like how conversations used to happen in the household , right , like you may have some insight or you may speak about an experience or something in your familial setting or whatever

Finding Balance in the Digital Age

Speaker 1

that may just stay in your familiar setting . But now , with social media , you are now able to share thoughts in an instant , like as soon as a thought comes to you , you can post it . And while that can be a good thing , because , in essence , social media builds community , social media builds community and it helps . It is a benefit because you may not , you know , for people who may be from St Louis or maybe from Cali or maybe from Atlanta , who've moved to another city across the country .

Speaker 1

You know I'm saying you don't have that , that leg to stand on in terms of when it comes to family or whatnot . You know , you're a fish out of water . You're in a whole new environment and things like that . So your friend group or your social group , you're starting over from scratch , whereas home you can link up with your family , you can link up with your friends or whatever . So social media does a great job of providing that connectivity and letting people in to know your thoughts and also building a community of people that could be anywhere in the world . So in that instance it is extremely great , it is extremely beneficial . On the flip side , and where I'm kind of falling , is I feel like we might be sharing a little too much .

Speaker 1

We might be sharing a little too much and just because you have a thought doesn't necessarily mean you should share it . And I'm not saying whether it's a good thought or a bad thought or whatever . Sometimes it's like you know what I think that , but I'm going to eat .

Speaker 2

That you know what I'm saying .

Speaker 1

For sure , but I'm gonna eat that . You know what I'm saying , and so you brought up a good point , which also prompted us being on the podcast together , but with you working in in that space and just also day-to-day experiences or whatever . You're not , you're not solely entrepreneurship . You are , like you said , a family man . You're raising kids who will have all this stuff at their hands when it comes time , and you decide that like OK , I mean I'm entrusting you with this , or I'm OK with you being on Instagram , I'm OK with you being on Facebook if they want to be on Facebook . I want to hear your opinion as well in terms of just kind of like that , that pendulum like it's . Like I said , I feel like it's way on the other side right now . We kind of need maybe a little course correction to be like all right , just because you can doesn't mean you should . So what are your , your thoughts about that ?

Speaker 2

I got you ? No , for sure , this topic is a great topic . So , ultimately , the thing about social media that people sometimes don't want to process , because what you're saying is right there is a thing of this sense of it's okay to overshare , because they've created an environment on social media now where it's not about anything other than something that can garner someone's attention and the freedom of thought that's happening . There is what twitter created , like twitter created this environment where speed um , because they fuse communication technology with media technology , and when you fuse communication and media the way that social media has done , it's now created this blurred line of cnn or are you just talking to people ? And it's like a . It's blurred and it's ultimately so blurred that , like we have to , there's like a new normal .

Speaker 2

The new normal is something that we have to like , figure out how to process , because there's going to be a generation of people that , like casa , not , will live his whole life on front of the internet . He will just like the . He will probably have 60 percent of his entire life will probably be on the internet , just how he's living like , and it's allowing him to become sustainable . He has more like . It's allowing him to do things that our generation , we were on these platforms , we've been using them , but that normalcy of like it's just putting everything I like .

Speaker 2

I'm not about to put it up . My whole life would not be on the Internet . I'm just not that person . I'm not going to ever be that person .

Speaker 2

I probably put a decent amount of what I choose to put out on the Internet because I use the Internet for what I feel like it makes sense to use it for and I don't allow it to manipulate , because it's a very manipulative tool . Like the . It's just another media machine that has the ability to skew messaging , like , and I look at all this stuff very actually exactly what it is , but I understand what it actually is the necessity for the connectivity that's needed , like the connectivity of Facebook and Messenger and Instagram , and these things are necessary for humanity to continue to evolve the way it's evolving . But how we choose to communicate is the thing about how people have evolved to understand self-worth and work to other people as well , because when you're just looking for attention and you're not assessing worth and value , you might do something that may compromise things , or may be willing to do something that's a little bit more compromising , because you're looking for something other than what you naturally probably should be looking for um and we can't .

Speaker 2

Like people can do whatever they want to do on the internet . There's some people that there's a part of who they naturally are that makes sense for them to be a certain way on the internet . It might not make sense for everybody to be that way on the internet , but like that that thing that you're talking about , that oversharing thing , it's like a people need to find that healthy balance of what is the thing that they are supposed to be sharing properly if they're going to be a person that's consistently on the internet . What's that thing that's supposed to be the part that you share and what are those other things that , like , you probably should just spend less time about that on the internet and it'll probably once people understand that , because it's still a thing what you consume , what you put out , um , and what you put out on the internet is it should be a little bit more intentional . Even when kids are like much more free-flowing , like what they do on gaming and all these other twitch platforms and all this kind of other stuff , these things are places where they're going to naturally give a lot of rawness that like leaves parts for interpretation and it's like it's not like scripted TV , it's like no , you're doing everything right here for hours and hours and hours . So it's a thing that I just think we us as a generation that came into this stuff later we have to like start looking at it from a lens where we need to start teaching .

Speaker 2

I'm not going to have my children on the internet like that . My child , I'm not looking to have them all over the internet . There will be a point when I know he's going to need the internet and he's going to be more mentally prepared for how to use the internet in a healthy way rather than using it in an unhealthy way , because I can't control how we use the internet . But if I can help him understand a purposeful way to look at using this tool , then he probably won't get lost in all the other dogma that's on the internet or won't get confused about some of the things that happen on the internet that are naturally meant to confuse people . But it's those thoughts that you're talking about . Those are the things that like is everybody even ready to process you talking about that and are they going to process it the way you're thinking they should process it ? You've got a few thousand people following you on here , a few thousand people over here that messaging . It might be a smaller sector people that may resonate with that .

Speaker 2

Once you understand how to purposefully use these platforms , you're going to post stuff that is going to resonate with the people you're posting it to and it's not going to always , you know , I'm saying hit , miss , miss , base or whatever . Um , or be off kilter for what should naturally be on an open forum communication channel , not just a media platform , it's an open forum communication channel . Would you just be in the room , say that you know , saying like , or would you be in a natural conversation , just pop out and say this or it's one of those kind of things . That's why they have groups , that's why they have all these other smaller subsets on the Internet for you to kind of get more , you know , say granular . But on the open forum there's definitely should be a much better level of decorum . You know what I'm saying ? Like they should be a little bit more tactful .

Speaker 1

Yeah , and these , like you say , open forums and dark web and chat rooms and all that stuff , that stuff has been around forever since Muggs had Dial-Up you know what I'm saying Exactly .

Speaker 1

It's not necessarily new . I think it's just because we have been in it for so long literally the infancy stage of most of these platforms and have been in it for so long , like literally the infancy stage of most of these platforms and have been in it for so long . And you know , engagement farming is a thing . So , again , like you said , it speaks to the values and we would , we could never know . I mean , you can see it .

Speaker 1

When someone is intentionally trying to , um , stir the pot , I'll just say stir the pot or whatever . And then also there's also the other side that somebody might not think they're stirring the pot . You know somebody you know may need that , you know may need to get that off of their chest . They may need the dopamine hit of community and like-minded people . Who knows ? We'll never truly know . I mean you look , the engagement farming is pretty self-explanatory , like you know that when you see it . But outside of that um and that subsect of people , you never truly know . You know . So it was just . It's just interesting because you know , when you kind of remove yourself from social media a little like , like a little bit a little bit by a little bit , you start noticing , noticing stuff and seeing stuff a little different .

Speaker 1

So it's kind of like all right , what's really going on ? And so it's like is it gone too far to the left , is it like where ? But like you say , it needs to come back to some sort of middle ground . So I definitely agree , bro . So go ahead and tell people where they can reach out to you and find more about your business and just get in touch with you .

Speaker 2

Yeah , for sure . You can reach

Where to Find Dennis Campbell

Speaker 2

out to me at Mr Biz and Tech , mr B-I-Z the letter N tech on Instagram . I'm also on LinkedIn too . Dennis Campbell , my two businesses , d&y Enterprises you can go to dnyenterprisescom if you're interested in any of the services that we provide there and On Another World Experiences . We will be doing a lot of different things across the city . You can find us at O-A-W Experiences on and the site is on another dot world . So yeah , you can check us out there , stay in tune with everything on another world . And again , like if you , if you never need any type of technology based resources , knowledge insight , my , my consultant firm is a vessel to the community to to just kind of help more people take advantage of the technology industry . So yeah , that's everything , man . Appreciate the time . Jay White , bro , appreciate the platform .

Speaker 1

Of course , bro .

Speaker 2

You already know what time it is Of course , bro .

Speaker 1

Next time you got anything else going on and you back in the city , feel free to hit my line , bro . Like I said , you can come on anytime and talk about whatever man . Like I said , I appreciate you coming on . It was a long time in the making .