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Henri Jourdan of Pursuit
The underground metal scene has experienced a remarkable revival since the pandemic, and bands like Pursuit are at the forefront of this resurgence. Guitarist Henry joins us to discuss how this three-piece outfit from Fargo, North Dakota is carving their path through relentless touring and musical evolution.
Henry reveals the band's fascinating sonic journey from their thrash metal beginnings to their current sound heavily influenced by grindcore legends like Napalm Death. "We trim the fat," he explains, describing their philosophy of crafting concise, impactful songs rather than indulging in technical excess. This approach has become central to their identity as they've refined their songwriting process.
What makes Pursuit particularly interesting is how they've transformed potential limitations into strengths. As a three-piece, they've developed a symbiotic relationship between instruments where guitar and bass occupy distinct sonic territories while creating a massive, cohesive sound. Their pragmatic approach to touring—typically spanning 6-11 days while balancing day jobs—offers valuable insights for emerging bands about sustainable growth and realistic goal-setting.
Don't miss Pursuit on their upcoming Midwest tour, including a stop at The Ritz in Macomb on April 12th, where they'll be joined by Sustenance from Georgia and Juggernaut Agenda from Quincy, llinois. Experience firsthand the raw energy and evolving sound of this promising band as they continue building toward turning their passion into a sustainable career.
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We'll be right back. Boom. Here we are. Another, uh, wonderful podcast with dial the wild, and I am here with mr henry of pursuit. What's going on, man?
Speaker 1:not much dude just uh, I don't know doing the thing, working hard and uh, gearing up for tour next month. Uh, which is next month is in like a couple days, basically.
Speaker 2:So yeah, and since we're on it, we'll just jump into like the tour man. So is this, do you guys all have like regular jobs and you're just taking a week off to go on tour, or is this what you guys do? What's the story there?
Speaker 1:It's what we're hoping to turn into a career. We all have day jobs currently that are thankfully flexible enough to allow the road are thankfully flexible enough to allow the road, um. But yeah, I think ideally we'd like to slowly transition out of a day job and someday, hopefully, have this pay our bills. But yeah, for now we just got the nose to the grindstone, just doing the best we can sure, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:um, and you guys are coming out of where the hell are you coming out of? Minnesota? You said Fargo, actually Fargo, north Dakota. Oh, hell.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, I think I was looking at your personal thing when it said Moorhead and Fargo are they're pretty much considered the same city, but that's just separated by the state line, obviously, but they're like right next to each other Awesome dude.
Speaker 2:So what got this? What got this started here? You guys just want to throw a tour together, or did you have an opportunity to play two or three places and just decide we might as well fill the dates in between, or how did this all come together?
Speaker 1:um, we try to do, we try to tour at least, uh, once or twice a year and we're wanting to go out. Um, we're still in like the earlier stages of like, uh, really finding a good stride for touring. This will be the third full one we've done, sure and um, I think the first one we did was like six days, uh, the second one we did was 11 days and this one's eight. So I think this is like still trying to feel out that kind of week, week and a half ish amount of time. But, um, yeah, we just decided we wanted to hit the road in april. So a few months ago I just started, uh, putting out some feelers and planning a route and doing something that seemed, um, like, seemed like we could challenge ourselves but also not bite off more than we could chew gotcha now.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about pursuit a little bit. When did that band start to come together as what we know as Pursuit now?
Speaker 1:just started writing, writing as many songs as we could and just playing any shows that we could take and learning from our mistakes along the way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, yeah, Well, like, what are some of the things you think you you've done right and some of the things you think you would avoid? That you're comfortable talking about, of course, but just, you know folks that you know around here we got we got a pretty decent scene, but I wouldn't call it a bunch of guys that are going to tour for any kind of length of time. We're all kind of like 30, 40-year-old dads now, just kind of still hanging around having a good time with it. So, yeah, just what are some of the things you guys have learned from the road or doing this and since, because it only says 21 and you guys are already trying to patch together tours. That's pretty impressive, oh thank you, gosh.
Speaker 1:I think like the biggest lesson that we've learned myself especially myself especially but is that it's okay to take smaller steps and that for the most part, taking smaller steps will probably get you further than trying to bite off a big chunk. Definitely nothing wrong with a lot of ambition. Pardon me, excuse me Like I think ambition is super necessary, but learning how to kind of reign that in and be intentional and thought out with it is probably the biggest lesson.
Speaker 2:Because, like going out on the road and touring is fun, but if you are not well organized with it, it can uh, it can get very stressful, I think oh yeah, I'm sure, especially, um, you know, trying to do it the way you guys are doing it, where you're trying to cover a certain amount of of territory in a certain amount of time, you know you start weighing probably the averages of. You know, do we put on four to five to six really good shows or do we really try and shove eight to ten shows in a week or two span? You know, I'm sure you guys have to measure all that out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's like it's kind of how do I? Sorry, my brain's kind of slowed today, but it's Sunday, man, it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Yeah, it's. We try to play like one show for every day that we're on the road, reasonably, I would say, because it's if you're not playing a show, you're not making money, and so you gotta cover all of your expenses and everything just from the travel. So it's like, um, yeah, if we're able to play a show regardless of the day, day of the week, then we'll throw something in there for sure.
Speaker 2:Well, this is something a little different for us, for Dial the Wild is actually pulling in kind of a touring I would call act. We have a healthy scene in the Quad Cities, peoria, springfield, quincy, within an hour or two of Macomb area. We've got really healthy music scenes trying to keep it kind of vibing a little bit in Macomb. Um, so, taking on something like a group that you know, I, I, I tell my buddies when they come into play, I'm like I, I can tell you I can pay you this much. You know, I, I know that we can stick to this and that we're going to be okay.
Speaker 2:But bringing in someone like you guys and I know, like you said, you're not like beating the world with a world tour or anything, but I want to make sure you're taken care of as much as you guys want to make sure you've got money for food, money for gas, and it just brings in a whole other, um, you know list of of challenges. I would say so, um, it's going to be different, it's going to be, it's going to be a cool experience. Um, we're going to be at the ritz that night. Uh, it's a great venue. Good, good spot for for metal. Uh, punk hardcore, uh, in this area. Um, you guys are starting out reading it off here, starting off in madison and I know, like the the death core um black metal scene, it's healthy in wisconsin, like that's.
Speaker 2:That's a good place to be. Of course you're never going to strike out in Chicago playing up there. I've never played in South Bend. Do you know what the scene's like over South Bend, indiana kind?
Speaker 1:of. I do not. I've never played anywhere in Indiana, but I do have a close friend that is a part of that scene and it seems like it's popping. It seems like there's really strong hardcore death metal presence there, nice. So I'm excited to see what they got. I love I don't know I love seeing what other states are throwing down.
Speaker 2:It's always so cool yeah it is. It's cool going to different scenes Just within well hell, this last week, since Thursday night. Thursday night we had had in Peoria, we had Frozen Soul, we had Fit for a King, we had Kublai Khan and we had Killswitch in Peoria.
Speaker 1:Oh damn.
Speaker 2:Yeah, went up for that. And then last night my buddies in the Hate Division dropped an EP like uh, we had like six bands last night in the quad cities uh, hate division, phantom, threat, um, neck, rung, dream, thief, post, ad, just all amazing bands and and such such good freaking dudes to work with.
Speaker 2:So I mean it's popping, you know, in the right spots around here as well. Then next you'll be with us in Macomb at the Ritz. You do a little bit of a back we were kind of talking about that before we recorded but you'll do a little bit of a backtrack to Champaign, which I mean I don't think you're going to be out much. It gives you another night to play somewhere. You just have to kind of head back east a little bit before you head back down to st louis, and then you're popping back up to des moines, damn. So, yeah, you're kind of making a nice big uh, we'll call it like a capital G going around. But no, that's cool, man, that's that's cool.
Speaker 2:You guys are able to do that and you're able to to to pursue that. So, um, yeah, the whole pursuit deal, like what are you guys all about? I mean, I don't want to, I don't want to put you in a box, because I was listening to a lot of your guys's stuff today and you guys have stuff that, like that, touch on old school punk. You've got some stuff that touches on like thrash metal. You've got some stuff that touches like, um, almost deathcore at times. So, like, what are you guys really into, and how do you come up with the sound that you guys have?
Speaker 1:Wow, so earlier on that's kind of a loaded question, so you know dissect it how you choose.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no worries, that's totally cool. The first, like a few years or couple years, honestly, um, we had a lot more of like kind of an old school thrash metal sound. Yeah, and we were not that. It was like we were necessarily, excuse me, trying to like be a thrash metal band, but it was more so like we were writing songs and trying to figure out just what we wanted out of the music that we were creating, and so we had it was like the Scourge of Humanity album. And then we put out a 2023 demo and those were kind of more on that older thrash side. And then, uh, after the demo, we started experimenting a lot more with like influences from bands like napalm death and like there's a newer one called concrete wind. That's kind of like a grindcore power violence band they're super good and a little bit more on like the rhythmic side of death metal and stuff like that. And I think we've we now really really like where the sound is at, where it's just very like in your face, we kind of what we say, we trim the fat on it. So it's like yeah, yeah, absolutely hell, yeah like.
Speaker 1:Uh, in the early stages of the writing process. I think we were trying to just like shove riffs in whenever we could, and then after a while we were like, you know, it's okay to like throw some riffs away if we don't feel like they serve the song. And then I think that's where we kind of started allowing more of those grindcore influences in, because it was, like you know, bands like Napalm Death back in the day and still today I don't know how to explain it much better than they just kind of go into the song, they make their point, they'll throw down a few heavy riffs and drag their knuckles for a little bit and then they're like done and they're on to the next idea. And that's really what we, I think, have kind of come into gotcha.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that makes, and, uh, part of that, that show we went to the other night, um, uh, uh, one of our buddies bands Dirt. God is one of their. Yeah, I was like that sounds awesome, because the group I've been playing with is, you know, we could put three of those together. It seems like at this point because we just got a guy that I love breakdowns, I love old school hardcore, and we got a guy that loves to shred death type stuff and then we got a great drummer that like kind of figure eights in between it, and it's just a matter of you know, what are we trying to accomplish here?
Speaker 2:You know, do you want to make it a full circle, or is like okay, this is really cool, let's just focus on that for a while. So you know, it's just.
Speaker 2:It just fascinates me the different styles that are out there. Like some guys want a true verse you know, bridge chorus verse, bridge chorus breakdown, whatever and then the guys are just like, hey, we're gonna play, we're just gonna grind for like two and a half minutes and be done. I'm like, okay, that's cool too. Yeah, yeah, it's just. Yeah, it's just cool to see what people come up with, because it's getting to a point where it's so hard to be original doing this shit anymore.
Speaker 1:Yeah that's exactly it. It's like now. Granted, there's obviously nothing wrong with standing on the shoulders of people that inspire you and stuff like that, absolutely, but I definitely agree it's in terms of um, I think it's harder to feel like you're kind of successfully navigating fresh water just with the volume of uh influences that are constantly coming out. You, you know, which is like I love it Cause it's uh, I think, since around like 2019, 2020, underground metal has, I mean, been flourishing and it's an awesome, it's like a really good time to be a metal head.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but yeah, I definitely agree, though, especially you know having the pandemic and stuff to fight in that time frame as well.
Speaker 2:You know it really took. It took a hit there for a year or two and, like it, it took a minute for it to kind of get his traction back after all that. So, yeah, as you said, you guys started in in 2021, so like you're starting right after the the kind of the craziness of it all, so you probably just had more time to really focus on on making your product rather than really worrying about going out and playing a whole lot to start yeah, and it was like we definitely had a lot more downtime.
Speaker 1:And then we kind of had a little bit of cabin fever too, because it had been, yeah, so long since we had gone to a show or been on stage. So it was like, you know, just get some songs together and just go play anywhere.
Speaker 2:Really, you know, anywhere we can get a show well, like on a personal note, was because you guys are right there on the line, was playing in Minnesota much tougher than playing in South Dakota, or were they both kind of the same at the time? Was one opening up different than the other?
Speaker 1:Um, not really. Uh, did you mean sorry? Did you mean North Dakota? Yeah?
Speaker 2:North Dakota, yeah, I'm an idiot.
Speaker 1:Go ahead. No, no, you're totally. Did you mean north dakota? Yeah, north dakota, yeah, I'm an idiot.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, no, no you're totally, you're totally fine. I just want to make sure, um, yeah, honestly, they were both, um, pretty equal in terms of when everything was kind of opening back up. Um, that's like, yeah, yeah, it's nice that there's some carryover between Moorhead and Fargo. So there, yeah, it's weird. This is just a side note tangent, but it's like, yeah, sure, yeah, the North Dakota state laws differ in a few different ways than like Minnesota does. So it's like between the borders there's like a lot of different technicalities, but then the general community kind of just considers we call it the Fargo Moorhead community. Essentially, it's just like feels like one big area, but anyway, so that was kind of irrelevant. But it's just like feels like one big area, but anyway, so that was kind of irrelevant.
Speaker 2:But no, it's all good. What's what's the scene like in the in that fargo area? Awesome um fargo, moorhead, sorry but, yeah, tell me about what's going on in that area, with your music scene, with your metal scene. Underground, what's happening?
Speaker 1:dude, it's, it's popping man. It's like um, prior to the pandemic it was uh kind of dying down and got very clicky and um, I think like being deprived of shows for like pretty much a year, a little over a, really just made everybody kind of hungry for them again. And it's just as soon as shows came back, people just started rolling out to them. I mean not just metal shows, but like multi-genre. There's different. There's like some grunge and good, like straight up rock and roll bands here too, and it's awesome, dude. There's like there's shows all the time. There is, um the main venue called the aquarium, okay, that uh people throws the most events. They do um like international bands and mostly local shows as well, okay. And then we have like some DIY spots. There's one called the parachigo and they throw a lot of like all ages like honking metal shows and it's been cool man, it's like you just roll out to a show. People are just happy to be there and I don't know it's's. It's so nice.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean it can be like I just I love going out and just chilling, but God, it's my favorite.
Speaker 2:It's my favorite thing to do, dude, is go to a local show and take it in and I'm in literally the sticks, like McComb is the sticks, but I'm like a little further into the sticks. So out where I'm at, you know, it's a lot of cover bands, it's a lot of, you know, guys that can play 80s hair metal. It's it's the guys that can play Kansas. It's it's the guys that can do the old school rock and roll and do decent country acts and there's nothing wrong with that. You know, they're all very, very good at what they do, super talented. But you're going to catch those on fundraisers for your fire department or you know different things in the area, which is cool. It's like we can use music to raise money for those needs. But it's also still really neat to still have an underground following of some sort around here for metal, for hardcore, for metalcore, for whatever the hell you want to call it.
Speaker 2:But, like you know, and it seems like the whole the punk side of things kind of died off a bit. But there is a band out of Quad Cities called Blaster, who's amazing and they do kind of the old school, obnoxious punk shit. Blaster, who's amazing, and they do kind of the old school obnoxious punk shit and you know everything else for that matter is is just you know. It reminds me a lot of a kid when we would go to a show. You go to some guy's garage or go to some local vfw or legion hall and you could catch like one band doing covers. You catch one band being a punk band, one guy doing like Ebo stuff, and then at the end of the night we had a hardcore group.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, you know that's, and now that we're a little older we kind of those circles have shrunk a little bit. But I'm really hoping you know to kind of pull more, more of those bands together of different sub genres. That'll that'll make for better shows too, because not everybody likes listening to people screaming into a microphone yeah, it's like god, and it the same goes for people that even love metal.
Speaker 1:It's like I don't always want to go to a metal show, you know. Sometimes I want to go just catch like even a nice acoustic act that's on, or like a more chill, more chill band like I don't know. All music is beautiful, so it's.
Speaker 2:It's always really cool to have the variety I think yeah, and it's, it's just crazy and you go out, you can catch some of these open mics at some of these places and see some of the people in your area that are amazing and you didn't even know they were there or existed or that you knew this guy, but you had no idea he was as awesome at music.
Speaker 1:So yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2:It's cool how it all pulls together. So pursuit, pursuit's big thing, let's get back to pursuit. So you guys do a lot, like we said, kind of in a small circle of stuff, but um, kind of on the what three minute or less type songs, um yeah, and there's a lot of what I really heard out of the newer stuff. There's like a lot of punk influence in some of that which is really cool. Like you know, you don't see that in a lot of punk influence in some of that which is really cool. Like you know, you don't see that in a lot of thrash metal. You used to, but like nowadays you don't see a whole lot of that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's kind of interesting like how that came about, because earlier on too, when we were writing, I know for myself um, I wanted to try to write uh music that I thought was uh gosh, I don't even know how to explain it I wanted to write something that had, like, challenged my own playing more, and I think in doing that I lost sight of the purpose of just writing music in general is, you know, I mean, you should always challenge yourself with the things that you're doing, because that's how you get better, but you know, you shouldn't be challenging yourself in a way that takes away from the artistic side of it, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2:No, that makes perfect sense. I mean, you see what I don't get me wrong. I love gents metal, but like, look what some guys are doing with it, if that makes sense. No, that makes perfect sense. I mean, you see what I don't get me wrong. I love gents metal, but like, look what some guys are doing with it. And you know, do you really want something you can play with 24 strings on it? You know it's cool, but am I going to watch that guy for an hour? Probably not, you know.
Speaker 2:And you know, you can it as technical and crazy as you want, but at the end of the day, if it doesn't have some sort of solar meaning to it like it's kind of lost in the wash and you guys, even you know, being a three-piece, that makes it even more difficult.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it can be well, it's, I don't know, it's. It's weird. I've only ever played in like three piece bands, you know what I'm saying. I guess that's not true. I briefly played in a cover band where there was another guitar player, but um, that it was such a short span of time, I don't, I don't, uh, count it very much, but yeah, every like I guess this is, aside from that cover band, pretty much the only band that I played in, but so I don't know, kind of pulled that out of my ass, I guess.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it's, it's kind of fun honestly because um, dalton, our bass player, he like he's constructed uh his bass tone to just kind of fill everything that my guitar can't on my own end and it just like it almost comes together as one instrument sound. It like just meshes so well and I don't know, it's kind of fun like, uh, we've seen bands that have you know two, three guitar players. Um, our homies in mall they have performed as a six piece before and it like it shakes your bones, it's so heavy, right. So it's like it's kind of cool to try to see if you can uh rub elbows with that a little bit. You bit with two less guitar players.
Speaker 2:Well, and what we found is that's two less schedules you got to deal with with practice and scheduling shows and our homies that play in the 8th division. They don't play with a lot of backing tracks, but he's able to put his rhythm guitar to a backing track just so they don't have to deal with another schedule. So it's cool what you can and can't do with it, and you can definitely overdo it at times with different aspects of it. Like you said, if you've got three guitars in one band and you're all in drop A or something, how many of you are competing for that low end of space? So it's really cool that you're. You take the approach of you know, I'm gonna play in this space, he's gonna play in this space and, um, it's all gonna come together nicely, so absolutely yeah, I I don't know how maul does it.
Speaker 1:All their, their guitar players all have really good ears and I've like it's always really cool to see when they're doing the six piece thing and then you can still hear their bass player through all three guitars. That's like impressive Dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's crazy that is just stuff they all harmonizing on different planes, then I'm not sure.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure what the different guitar parts are, but I think they share the same riffs for the most part, but I think their tones are a little bit different between each person.
Speaker 2:But I'd have to see it't need it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I haven't. I haven't even picked their brains about that, if I'm gonna be honest, so I should. Now I'm curious, but yeah, it's, it's, it's insane. It literally like shakes your chest when they play as a six piece yeah, it's all good, though hey, uh, let's get into.
Speaker 2:Uh influences man, like what do you guys mostly listen to, or what are you guys mostly inspired by, or you know um, quite a few different things, I guess.
Speaker 1:uh, it varies uh pretty decently between dalton, myself and our drummer, wyatt. I know, for me I'm really into Napalm Death, as I named earlier as one of them, and Sangua, sugabog and Gate Creeper and different avenues of death metal and grind and stuff like that. Dalton is into Nails and mashuga. Yeah, uh, he likes, uh, he's uh really into the most recent knock loose album okay, yeah and wyatt is super into. Like man, he loves metallica slayer sepultura and you gotta have that guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you gotta have that guy. So, absolutely, yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I mean you could definitely like feel the maybe like the dying fetus and you know some of the, some of the death type stuff. Um, that that's in there. You can definitely hear and you can feel a lot of that in the way that you guys play and the way that it sounds, and it's just raw energy from the start of a song all the way to the end. It's pretty wild stuff, man. I was just listening, actually because I forwarded on your guys' stuff to a couple other guys today, but just what it was from Lion Must Go Up to what was the other one I listened to today, the Scourge of Humanity. Yeah, I mean, it's all good stuff.
Speaker 1:It's crazy how you kind of shifted from that to that in that period of time. Thankfully, all of us have a communication style amongst ourselves that's very, um, conducive to um, kind of just moving forward and, uh, always just putting our nose to the grindstone. I guess you know it's very um, we're we're all uh good at understanding, like feedback and communication. So if there's an idea that's floating around and it's not really working, nobody has any trouble saying that it's not working or not fitting, and nobody takes it personally. We just kind of on to the next thing and go, go, go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's key is being able to cut your losses and swallow your ego at times and do what's best for the collective rather than what you really want to see or what you really want to hear happen. There are those times where it's like, man, I really hear this, I really feel this, I really want it to kind of shake out. And then, when it doesn't, you get so pissed yeah, you know, and either you come back to it and it works out eventually, or it was just like you know, it was a great idea, but it just wasn't going to happen.
Speaker 1:Today, yeah, and there's like we've had songs that were we've had a riff in one of our songs that was its own idea for a completely different song in the past, and we'd spend days to weeks trying to flesh out this idea and then we'd be like, nah, this sucks. The riff is kind of cool, but we're not really getting out of it what we're trying to. And then you know, down the road another riff will come up and you know somebody be like play that. You know, play that with this other riff that we essentially couldn't use, and then all of a sudden you find a place for. It's just wild how that happens, I guess.
Speaker 2:Absolutely yeah yeah, and every band's a little different how they construct ideas for songs and how the whole thing comes together. So it's cool. You guys kind of you kind of found your niche and what works for for you guys in your process and and uh, uh, yeah, that's good stuff, man. Um, is there any bands that you have played with or shows that you have played that were more memorable, or or you know people you look up to you're able to play with? Something like that?
Speaker 1:Um, we always are grateful for shows that we play with, like uh mall and any of the guys that had been doing the thing since, like before we were doing it. Um, it's just like it's always very humbling and always a really good learning experience to see, like, how hard they're working and the things that they're doing to be successful. So that's super cool. And as far as like a memorable show, um, we played uh in january. We played in cedar rapids, iowa, and it was like a one-day festival and it was like an all-agres thing. There was some like hardcore bands there, there's some death metals and, excuse me, it was. It was insane.
Speaker 1:Like all ages shows are super sick because, like you know, kids are just as pissed off, if not more, as like adults. Right, and they got to get some aggression out and so, like kids, they love moshing, they love throwing down. I mean, we're up there, we're just doing our thing and there's people crowd surfing and like big pits going and it's just like I don't know. It was so much fun, you know just what festival was that?
Speaker 2:Do you remember?
Speaker 1:It was called the Cold Shock. It was like a Midwest like metal, uh metal showcase. Um, yeah, nothing. I don't think that it had happened previously and I'm not sure it might have just been like a one-off thing as well. But, um, the people that put it together are called iowa metal underground.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:They know their shit. They're really good dudes, yeah, just they put together awesome events and they're super good to work with.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. How far is Cedar Rapids from you guys, from where you're at?
Speaker 1:Oh shit, probably, I think, 10-ish hours, eight to 10 hours. Let's see if we drive to Minneapolis from here. It's like three and a half four hours and then you're way up there yeah, yeah, we are. Let's see, yeah, we're like a little geography here holy hell. Now I'm curious. I think it's close to a 10 hour drive to like Cedar Rapids from here?
Speaker 2:no kidding, I didn't think it was that far let's see Fargo to Cedar Rapids.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm dumb, it's a 7 and a half hour drive.
Speaker 2:No, that's still a stretch man, Holy shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, In a tour van I'd say give or take an extra hour or two just trying to save gas. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it's a lot of. You guys will be a straight 10 hours coming here to play.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it'll be Gosh. How many hours is it? Fargo to Madison? I think is eight-ish hours. Yeah, the first, just locationally, the first show for tour. We usually try to drive out as far as we can so that the rest of the days, yeah, we can kind of work our way back. That's awesome. Oh yeah, thank you. So it's like it's. Yeah, fargo is pretty out of the way.
Speaker 2:So in general if we're playing out of town, we can expect anywhere from like a three to hour drive so it's, it's like you're good, you're just gonna, you're gonna drive, bro, it don't matter, yeah, that's wild man but that that's cool, that, like, you guys have such a good scene and such a good following and stuff where you're at and with what you're doing, um, but you want to get out, you want to go see what else is going on out there, and you know that that's awesome. I wish that somewhere along the way, you guys have found a way to like play peoria or quad cities or something, because I think that would have been really conducive to like what you're doing. Um, but you know, look home, we got a nice little pocket here between all that. That. Uh, you know the, the folks that know they'll be there, so hell yeah and, like I said too, man, we, we really appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Dude, we really appreciate you getting us up I.
Speaker 2:I was like I said it was given to me and I was asked if I could handle it. I said I don't know but we'll see and we made it happen. So I'm excited to have you guys down, excited to meet you guys. I really like what you're doing. It's kind of a really cool old school thrash metal meets like kind of old school, where punk kind of met hardcore vibe and, as weird as it sounds, it works and it sounds really cool. Thank you, I appreciate that a lot. So we're going to put it on here on the 12th and we got you guys a couple bands here. The guys that you're traveling with will be here as well.
Speaker 1:Sustenance, by the way, sustenance from Georgia. Definitely check them out. They're super sick.
Speaker 2:They're coming up from.
Speaker 1:Georgia. Yep, they're coming up from Kennesaw, Georgia.
Speaker 2:I definitely need to get one of them guys on here pretty soon. That's awesome, they're coming on up. Then I got Juggernaut Agenda from Quincy Illinois coming here to open up for you guys. He runs a small I won't say small, he's outlapped me by miles, but he puts on Midwest Sponsor Productions, promotions, whatever you want to call it over in Quincy Illinois, kind of where Illinois meets Missouri, and he's been putting on shows left and right, doing everything he can to keep his little circle and his little community going. So it's nice when we can. You know, we got the folks in the Quad Cities, peoria, we got Quincy Springfield, just trying to hold each other up at this point.
Speaker 1:Absolutely yeah, high tide and raises all Springfield. Just trying to hold each other up at this point. So absolutely yeah, I tied in. Raises all ships.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we want, you know, we want to see everybody when, uh, rooting for everyone and uh, hopefully we come in have a good show, have a good time. Um, you know, you guys get your rooms and stuff booked and like a crash and shit. Or are you, are you guys, a crashing type band, or do you just finish and head on to the next?
Speaker 1:Uh, we're a crashing type band for sure. So, um, uh, yeah, garage floor, somebody's couch, wherever If we um, we'll do. Uh, we'll do like motels and stuff if we um don't find a couch to crash on. But yeah, we're pretty, we're not super picky, we've even done like free campsites and shit. We usually throw a tent in the back of the van just in case, but wow you guys are hardcore, man, I don't.
Speaker 2:there's nothing I look forward to less than sleeping on the grounds, man.
Speaker 1:Fair enough it it kind of sucks if you sleep wrong. I've definitely had mornings where my back hurts more than I'd like it to, but I don't know. After a while it's like I don't know Sleep is sleep.
Speaker 2:It just piss you off and make you want to play that much harder to the next day. It's just like I'm mad. My back hurts. My day is just like I'm mad. Yeah, my back hurts, my back hurts, so you better just pit up, let's go. Let's go and deport a little sixth grade kids out there, like let's go no, that's your backup too they're gonna walk and we graduate high school.
Speaker 2:No, I can smile, man. Man, it is great. Out the seat itself, we police each other up. Don't take us the wrong way on any of this. A sixth grade kid is not going to get messed up in the pit. There's enough people there that knows what's going on. Don't hear what we're not saying here. We're not trying to destroy children. It's a good time though. Man know I'm stoked. I'm glad to have you guys down. Um, regardless, you know we'll come down, you guys tear it up and then, uh, we'll send you on your way to the champagne and uh, yeah, hopefully you guys have a good rest of the tour and able to make some strides that you want to make, and you know we, hopefully you guys have a good rest of the tour and able to make some strides that you want to make, and you know we'll definitely be pushing it here on on all sides as much as we can and look forward to seeing you, look forward to meeting, yeah, oh thank you very much.
Speaker 1:I really appreciate you setting us up and I appreciate your time with the zoom call man.
Speaker 2:It was really nice talking to you. Yeah, you too, bud. We'll, uh, we'll catch up here soon hell yeah, dude, have a good one.
Speaker 1:We'll see you in a couple weeks. Yep, sounds good man.
