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Tim Goehl - The Juggernaut Agenda / Midwest Monster Promotions
Tim Goehl's story is one of redemption through amplifiers and power chords. After spending 22 years in Austin where his band Carbide nearly signed to Prosthetic Records before addiction derailed his dreams, Tim found himself back in Quincy, Illinois with a clean slate and a commitment to sobriety.
When he arrived three and a half years ago, the local music scene was virtually nonexistent. A chance encounter with an old friend's touring band needing a show sparked what would become Midwest Monster Promotions—a labor of love that has now produced over 35 events and breathed life into a dormant musical community. "I turned my addiction from drugs to music," Tim shares, "because when I tried to do both, the drugs took the music away from me."
Now working at a drug rehabilitation center by day while promoting shows and playing in five different bands by night (including his "stoner core" outfit Juggernaut Agenda), Tim has discovered that his second chance at music is sweeter than the first. He's built a DIY empire complete with handmade stages, local business sponsorships, and connections to bands from New York to Indiana. His upcoming fourth annual Metal Fest will feature 22 bands over two days, showcasing the incredible talent he believes is overlooked simply because of geography.
Whether you're a metal enthusiast or simply appreciate stories of transformation and perseverance, check out Timothy's band Juggernaut Agenda this Saturday in Macomb, IL with Sustenance and Pursuit. Witness firsthand how one man's commitment to sobriety and music is reshaping the cultural landscape of the Midwest, one power chord at a time.
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Here we go, another Dial the Wild episode. This one's pretty cool because I actually get to talk to a fellow promoter, mr Timothy Gale.
Speaker 1:What's up y'all how?
Speaker 2:y'all doing tonight? What's up, man? What's up? How's the world of Quincy?
Speaker 1:It's busy man. What's up? How's the world of Quincy? It's busy man. I'm a busy guy with a lot of interests man, and you know I got a full-time job and a side hustle and I'm in five different bands and I do the promoting. And it's a wild life, man, but it keeps me busy, it keeps me out of trouble. You know what I mean. Absolutely you know what I mean. Like you know, I mean music is pretty much my only vice. So uh, uh, it keeps me pretty healthy, if you know what I mean. It's like my, my mental therapy, my mental health depends on whether or not I'm creating music and throwing shows, and I get a lot of support from my wife. She totally understands that. So, uh, it is what it is. You know what I mean. But I like to stay busy and I like to do what I got to do to make sure that there's some live music around here, because when I moved here three and a half years ago there wasn't hardly nothing.
Speaker 2:No, it was a little bit further back when I lived in Quincy and it was next to nothing. I mean, it was a lot of you know, a lot of cover bands and stuff at the local bars or something, but there wasn't really like a healthy creative music scene at the time. I didn't think yeah, there is.
Speaker 1:Now, though, man it's coming around for sure yeah, we, we've cultivated some cool stuff over the last three years, man, and I remember when I first started doing this and and, uh, we started posting videos of the events, man, there was a lot of people who were like god.
Speaker 1:God man, I haven't been on stage, and you know, 10 years and I really like to get back on stage again. And almost all the people that were talking that way are in bands now and they're doing the thing, and you know, and, and it's just, and I and I'm not trying to say that I'm responsible for that but I definitely planted, planted that seed. You know what I mean. And gave, gave, gave, gave these people an outlet, some hope. You know what I mean. Oh, my God, there's a guy that's that's putting on shows again and you know, give them hope to do it that one last time or however long they need to do it.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean like you know all the music's about just the woes of being an old man but just still rocking out. You know I plan on taking it to the grave man. It's just how I roll, man.
Speaker 2:So absolutely, and uh, so we're going to be having you guys in your one of your five bands, um.
Speaker 1:Juggernaut Agenda Amen, that's my main band, that's my baby.
Speaker 2:And that's coming to McComb here this Saturday to play with Sustenance and Pursuit. I've been talking to those guys and listening to their stuff and I don't know how they've slipped below the radar as long as they have, because it's solid stuff. Yeah, they're just so good. I gotta see you play uh dead serious. I gotta see you play uh the pantera cover band. Which one? What were they called? What are they called? Stronger than all stronger?
Speaker 1:than all that's right. Yeah, and with those, with those, with those same cats, I have another project called nativity and sabbath. That's uh, we do like yeah, we do like a real heavy version of the sabbath songs. Um, and then I, and then I'm also in a caius cover band nice most people don't know who caius is, but to me they're the greatest band to ever walk the earth.
Speaker 2:So sure, yeah, I mean it's, it's pretty cool to see how it's grown. I, I, I think two years ago I went to one of your productions, saturday Eagles, and it was a good production, um. But each time I've been back, uh, I think I've been to three of your shows over there I played in. One of them was Zodiac killers. That was a good show, and then, uh, the next one I went to was also really really good, and then the next one I went to was also really really good, and they get a little bit better each time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, this last one, I had the Crossover Fest. Man, it was packed and I had rappers and heavy metal people all on the same stage and the headlining band was this band called. They Were Legends and they were like an acoustic, hip-hop, live music, and it was just like it was so eclectic and like the mix was went. We had, like I said, death metal bands and rappers and and this live hip-hop band. It was just phenomenal. They were legends out of st louis. I highly recommend them.
Speaker 1:Uh, but you know, I like to keep it fresh. I like, I like to, I like to express all, all, all the genres of music that I like. Sometimes I mix them together, generally I keep them apart, but, uh, you know, I like to try and bring what I can to Quincy and people do come out, man, and I've I've never had what I would think to be a not successful event. You know what I mean, cause I don't do it to make money. I don't base this on how much money I make and I'm I got a big, soft heart.
Speaker 1:If a band comes from like St Louis or something, st Louis or something, they bring 10 people with them. You know what I mean. I'll let them all in for free, man. You know what I mean, and I may not make a lot of money at the door, but there's always a lot of people at the shows, man, and it just. You know, I've been to shows in St Louis that didn't have as many people as some of my productions, man, and I'm talking about for nationally touring acts. You know what I mean, so yeah, absolutely no.
Speaker 2:It's a really good area because you're just far enough but close enough to everybody and everything being in Quincy. So you moved back to the Quincy area here what you said three years ago three and a half years ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, I spent 22 years in Austin, texas.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And, uh, I was in a band down there called carbide C, a, r, b, I, d, e and uh, we were like we were about to be the next big thing, like we had a we had a deal with with prosthetic and we were about to go on tour with every time I die and at that time in my life I had a drug problem. And uh, uh, the Austin police department had a different, had a different, uh, idea of what my future looked like.
Speaker 1:Uh, I ended up getting in a lot of trouble and all that just crumbled apart. And you know you can look up carbide music, austin texas on youtube and you can see me front in a band with, like, every time we took the stage we sold out the place. You know what I mean. It was, uh, it was awesome, but that was. But that's like my. So and not only with that band I was in, you know, because everybody knows that I have a past and I've been clean for a really long time and you're fairly open about that, yeah.
Speaker 1:You know I mean I work in a drug rehab. That's my, my, my W2 job is I work overnight in a drug rehab. You know I'm on the front lines helping people beat the addiction. That I beat, man, it is possible. You know what I mean. And I literally turned my addiction from drugs to music because I tried to. When I tried to do both, the drugs took the music away from me. So, uh, and I was right there, man, I'm like I don't know if I'll send you a link after the podcast, absolutely, yeah. Yeah, you know it's uh, it's incredible and I, I'm all shredded with a big pink Mohawk and like, and it was, it was really awesome, man, but, um, it didn't work out. You know what I mean. But like, looking back on that too, I think if that would have worked out, I wouldn't have what I have now.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, Like I wouldn't.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't have this three-year-old and Quincy wouldn't have a music scene. And yeah, I may have been a rock star, but I also might be dead by now. You know what I mean, cause if I would have became, if I would have became a, I would have, I would have wanted to celebrate my success and it probably would have killed me. You know what I mean. So, uh, all in God's time you know it put me in the right place at the right time. And now, now, being clean and sober, I'm writing the best music I've ever written in my life. And, uh, when I moved back to Quincy three and a half years ago, I got a son, like I said, he's three and um, that was the catalyst for me and my wife. Both of us, we were both had a drug problem and that was the catalyst for us getting clean and and and. Once we'd been clean about a year, I was like you know, babe, I'd really like to get back into music. And and, uh, there was really nowhere to play around here at the time and so, uh, I just started putting a scene together, man and uh, uh, other man and uh, some friends of mine were on tour from, uh, texas called pigweed. Shout out pigweed. Yeah, they had a. They had a tour date drop off. And they were like, hey, man, can you get us a show anywhere in your area? And I got a hold of the state street theater and and it was like a wednesday night and and I, they out of that blossomed the very first midwest mons promotions event. And uh, that was uh.
Speaker 1:I was in a band with a bunch of teenage kids called, uh, violent og or something like that, or original violence. It was nathan winkler. I was gonna shout out nathan winkler. He was like 16 years old. In high school I ran into him, uh, uh, at south park during the winter time, we were sled riding and uh, he was like you gotta check out my band, bro. And I was like, well, you should check out my band. And he's like, will you be the singer of my band? I'm like, dude, I'm 46 years old, you're 16. He was like I don't give a fuck what you're doing anyway, and so and so, but that.
Speaker 1:But that moment on that hill in in the winter of of of 2022 or 2021, um, midwest monster was born, man. And it was really strange how it all happened, because I wanted to play music so bad and I couldn't find anybody that I was willing to play with these three teenagers. You know what I mean. That's how bad. I wanted to play and I looked pretty cool. I had like foot-long Liberty spikes. I was trying to look all young and shit, but we killed it, you know. And Pigweed came up here and we had a really good show. Like 60 people showed up on a Wednesday night, that's wild.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. And it was the start of something really beautiful, man. And here we are, 35 events later. You know I'm about to throw the biggest event I've ever thrown in my life. You know, it's like 22 bands over two days. You know, all professional sounding lights and it's just, and and these are some of the best underground artists from New York, St Louis, Indiana, I mean in the tri-state area, I mean I'm talking about these bands should all be being played on liquid metal every day. Yeah, I agree, Eventually I want to take Midwest monster promotions and I want to start a label, a Midwest monster label, to where I just want to start a website, to where, like all you know, you don't have to be on my label.
Speaker 1:It's not like I'm going to sign you or anything, but if you want to put your music on my website and be a part of the Midwest Monster label, then you know like we can promote it from there and like I think that like there's a huge hub of amazing metal bands, they're just getting overlooked because they're in the Midwest. You know what I mean. Like it's been kind of drowned out since Slipknot. You know what I mean. They did their thing and everybody kind of forgot about the Midwest after that but, like that particular moment in time spawned a metal scene in the Midwest.
Speaker 2:That is just incredible, man, and I'm trying to expose it at all costs you know, and shout out to people like tattoo baby that's trying to do it with their absolutely shout out tattoo.
Speaker 1:Baby, that's my home girl man. Yeah, we share the same passion. Matter of fact, we're playing peoria at the 420 fest the weekend after we're playing that's right.
Speaker 2:Playing with, uh, genly rise, aren't you? Yeah, yep, yep, yep. I think hell kaiser and a couple others are playing yeah, yeah, it's going to be a sick show man.
Speaker 1:And we got a sweet spot, dude. They put us right in the middle of all the bands. Shout out to Again we Rise. They've always been on a class act man. They were always real good to us.
Speaker 2:They're kind of the kind of the OGs around here at this point as far as Peoria area and playing metal shows and stuff. There was a few bands I know were around before pandemic that are still around. You know, what I mean.
Speaker 1:So they're they're they.
Speaker 2:They've been dedicated to it for a while, but the saying that you're putting on this fourth annual metal fest, uh, you know January is a great band out of your area, um, born of decay. You know January's a great band out of your area, born of Decay. I've had them at one of my productions.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're incredible.
Speaker 2:One of these has Born of Decay on it. Yeah, I.
Speaker 1:Dead serious, the Born of Decay drummer and I used to Dead serious man. He's a phenomenal drummer.
Speaker 2:They have bag runs doing cool stuff. Leave them cold. Dude. The slam core that they do is amazing yeah, I love Chris.
Speaker 1:Chris is a good friend of mine now.
Speaker 2:Dan, bala and Kyle and them guys are good guys we played a New Year's Eve party in Peoria for.
Speaker 1:Chris DeBlade played that one too it was Tattoo baby's birthday, yeah, and they were there. Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, I remember that. That, that that in Sabaner dude, I was like I got to get you on the metal fest, them guys are incredible. Every band that played that night was incredible, but they really was. I was just like. I was like jaw slack, jaw slack, open mouth like god man. And I was like you know, and people are like, why do you book so many bands at your metal fest? Because bands always drop off.
Speaker 1:That's why that's why, and so I told him. I was like it's inevitable, there's gonna be a band drop off. And the very next day intrusive minds hit me up and they're like, hey, man, we won point fast or whatever and we're not gonna be able to play that weekend. So I bumped everybody up and I put in Sabaner in there and they're going to get to play too, and I gave the because I had Intrusive Minds in a really, really good spot. Shout out to them out of St Louis. They're incredible. But I gave that slot to Again, we Rise now and it's going to be a great day, man.
Speaker 2:All the bands playing both those days are just unbelievable when you've done this enough I won't say as long as we've done it, because I've only been promoting shows for the last couple of years. You've been doing it. But anybody that's been around this long enough knows if you don't have a backup plan, once you're slapped in the face you're going to be in trouble, whether it's hey, someone dropped off, dude, I'm not gonna lie. I'm on my third sound guy for this show in the last.
Speaker 1:I'm very blessed. I'm very blessed. Shout out sean major here in canada. Uh, I mean it's pricey, but it's so worth it.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean we got adam, uh adam, all over over here at the, at the music shop here in theomb. He's going to be doing the sound which, now that we've got our local guitar shop involved, I'm feeling a lot better about it. Now you know it's yeah, square Music Company. Why couldn't that come to my mind? But yeah, adam and the guys at Square Music, just a classic.
Speaker 1:You got a Square Music in Macomb too. Yes, sir, yeah, they sponsor all my bands here in Quincy.
Speaker 2:Yup Good folks, yup Good folks. So, yeah, it's going to be good night and, uh, really looking forward to I don't know that. I've, yeah, I heard the juggernaut, the um, at that tattoo baby show. Yeah, you guys got kind of a heavy rock it's, it's we.
Speaker 1:What do you call it straight straight up stoner metal man.
Speaker 2:It's straight down her mouth.
Speaker 1:Nice sludgy stoner metal yeah, we, we kind of, we kind of developed our own, our own terminology, for we call it stoner core yeah, it's well, my buddy and I, when we're working on twist the blade stuff, we people ask us what it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I, I call it party metal, he calls it, he doesn't call it it.
Speaker 1:I know we, I think we settled on thrash core, so yeah, uh, you know, shout out to greg milton from bag where man, he, he, he told me he's like man. You guys, to me are pure american metal and I thought I mean, I know lamb of god goes by pure american metal. But that was one of the best compliments I ever got. Man was like is that? You know, the juggernaut agenda is 30 years of of all my influences.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean like and I and I incorporate everything that's ever influenced me to be who I am, from caius to sepultura, from slayer to you know, whatever corn you know, it's all represented in our music man and and um and just a little over a year we've wrote 17 songs, man, and just like, the creative process with the juggernaut agenda has just been this most creative thing I've ever experienced in my life, and I think a big part of that, of course, is having a clear mind and and uh. And also the first time ever in my life, I played guitar and sang at the same time. I played guitar in a lot of bands, I sang in a lot of bands, but I used to always tell myself I can't do both, I can't do both. I've tried, I can't do it. But when I moved to Quincy, it became a necessity because I couldn't find anybody to play with. I couldn't find anybody to play with, I couldn't find anybody to sing for. So and then I got with John Bevis and that was how we started Dead Serious.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. Yeah, it's still going. I mean, you guys, you were talking about how like you guys were in bands, Now you're both in in in different groups now, but you're still.
Speaker 1:There've been so many branch offs from from the musicians. You know, uh, hollow point, facelift. They were. They were a band that was spawned up out of this scene that are all really really close friends of mine. Everybody in that band just wanted to play music again and and when I put the scene together, they kept running into each other at the shows and next thing, you know, boom, hollow point, facelift who's that?
Speaker 2:who's that bass player for hollow point? That's jesse. He's the most metal kid ever oh my gosh two years brian two years ago when so one of your shows there at the eagles, this kid's got like spikes from wrists, the shoulder all the way up each side.
Speaker 1:They weren't spikes, they were nails and screws.
Speaker 2:Oh my god yeah, that was, that was so cool. He's sitting here.
Speaker 1:He's like he's at home with this. He's at home with a screw gun and a nailer and a hammer. He's just got a piece of leather and he just I love that kid there. He's the most method person on the planet, bro he's cool as hell.
Speaker 2:I, yeah, he's a lot of fun to be around and it was cool because he he shows up, uh, there at the at the peoria show and he's he's talking, like got this Korean made bass. He's thinking he's like it's the coolest thing I've ever seen and, yada, yada. I'm like, dude, I am so excited that you're so excited about this bass, because this is awesome. So, yeah, he's a cool kid. There's a lot of cool cats over there. They're on the river where you guys home and you know it sounds like there's some stuff you know popping around. Uh, hannibal, don't you got a couple of bands over that direction that pop? Yeah, uh, yeah there.
Speaker 1:There are a couple of bands over there. There's a lot of bands that that, like I like. Um, my other band violent.
Speaker 2:Christ, he drives over.
Speaker 1:You know, I mean, like there's a lot of cross musicians from hannibal and quincy and I know I know a lot of people that like come from keokuk and shit and play in bands in quincy. You know, oh yeah, it's just, uh, the shortage of musicians in this area it creates, uh, the need for people to play in multiple bands you know what I mean stronger than on and nativity and sabbath. They're out of st louis. You know, I mean I travel every other Sunday all the way to St Louis to practice with them. You know what I mean. My other three bands are based out of Quincy, but I'm about to branch off my, my promoting into St Louis. Just, it's kind of I'm kind of trying to get into a bigger market, a bigger scene. I got my first experiment with that coming up in august. I don't have a date yet, but I'm kind of I'm kind of excited about that branch it off into a bigger city.
Speaker 2:So you guys got a play down there. Uh, red flag, didn't you? Yeah, we did we played here twice. That'd be such an experience. Such an experience, yeah, to go down there and check that place off.
Speaker 1:I can't wait to play pops. Man, we, I. We were supposed to play pops this year at the, at the, supposed to play Pops this year at the Road to Point Fest, and they sent me an email invitation and I missed it. By the time I saw it, they had already filled all the slots and, man, I was so bummed out. I want to play Pops. So bad bro.
Speaker 2:I've seen so many good bands at Pops so many good bands at Pops. I've seen Azalea dying at Pops. I saw Haste the Day at Pops. Every time I at Pops in St Louis Saturday.
Speaker 1:Saturday. Yeah, when I seen Entheos there, they had these bass drops that I thought my, I was scared for my life for a second, like I could feel my innards vibrating. I could feel my chest and my heart like, like stressed, because these bass drops were just the sound system.
Speaker 2:there is just incredible man it's great and I like, I like how zach sabbath there. That was awesome the uh, the railing along the top there. You know, as a kid I'd like to obviously be down in the pit and do my thing, but then you get these. Yeah, I'd either get tired or, now that I'm old, I just go to the railing now and sit down and I can just take in a show without some idiot knocking my beer over.
Speaker 1:You know, so I'll be 51 in may, I still get in the pit.
Speaker 2:I don't know what's wrong with me, bro it's a I don't know like I I gotta be, I gotta feel, I gotta be feeling it at this point, just because, yeah, I know it's gonna hurt the one that starts to pit bro.
Speaker 1:People are like who is this old school cat? What is this problem? And I got a bum leg so I'm like hitting on one leg, doing this weird kick thing with my other leg so it doesn't have to touch the ground. I could pit on one leg, bro. It's hilarious. But if the band is that good, I can't help it. You know what I mean. Like right I.
Speaker 2:I gotta be right frame of mind because I'm thinking to myself the whole time. This is going to hurt tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Man, I trained pretty hard anyway, so I stayed. For a 50 year old, I stay in pretty good shape, man. I, I, I, I, I. I stay pretty fit man. I don't really feel the. So there has been a few times where I got knocked on my ass and bruised my tailbone shit. Oh, that's rough. I wanted, I wanted to talk a little bit about Go for it. Go for it Cause I got promises unsaid from New York.
Speaker 1:If you haven't listened to them, they're like this metal core band that has like these Michael Jackson and chorus lines and, uh, shout out, caleb on said, like he's, like, he has, like he literally has a voice, he has a clean voice like Michael Jackson, and then his growl is like a straight demon. It's like the most extreme, the most extreme ends of the spectrum and like and they're just so tight. This will be the third time they've came from New York to play the Metal Fest and if you want you know you want to hear some really unique original stuff, check out promises on said online. They got a bunch of real professional. There's super pro, pro band, like they got their shit together. All their videos are super professionally done, all the recordings professionally done.
Speaker 1:And there's another band coming from Indiana called bury the coffin. It's called bury the coffin. It's just really, really awesome man. So, uh, you know, if you're like, oh, I don't want to drive in an hour to quincy, remember these, these bands came from new york and indiana, so get in your car, drive the hour, pay the 15, enjoy yourself. You're gonna love it, I promise. And what's, uh, what's the date on that metal fest?
Speaker 2:april 25th, and 26th okay yeah yeah, two-day deal yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm insane, I know but I'm doing stuff, you know, and what we found with the venue that we got, because you've got to have, like I've got a few sponsors that I shout out and that help pay the bills, um, but once you make it a door, it has to help cover what you didn't get help with and then hopefully go towards the next one.
Speaker 2:So well, my door money usually barely covers my sound advice yeah, well you, you go all out on your salmon lights and luckily, like I said, I've got a little bit of help there now.
Speaker 1:So usually that whatever bands I have guarantees with, that usually comes out of my pocket, uh, but I don't mind. You know what I mean. I used to spend thousands of dollars on drugs and, um, now I'm using man and throwing events and and, uh, it's, it's worth it to me. You know people are like that's. Another reason too, why I booked so many bands is because I like a lot of people to be there. Man, if you got 10 bands on the bill and they all bring one, you know that's 100 people right there. Yeah, yeah, absolutely they're plus ones.
Speaker 1:You know I, that's a hundred people right there. Yeah, absolutely, they're plus ones. You know what I mean. So it's going to be packed if you and if you stay on the ball and you, you know that's the only time ever in my promoting I'm kind of like an enforcers. I get it that in between sets I'm like cracking that whip man, break that shit down, shut that shit up. You know what I mean. Like you gotta, you gotta, keep everybody in line, keep everything. I've had a few events run behind like two hours and it was a nightmare. Man, like I was kind of off doing my own thing, I wasn't really paying attention to the time slots and everybody was playing over and then it was a nightmare. So now I I've learned my lessons the hard way on that kind of stuff, you know yeah, so yeah I've had that, that particular event.
Speaker 1:My headliner was 800 bucks. He went on two hours late. There was like 12 people there. You know what I mean, because it was like 12 30 at night and quincy's are asleep, bro. Maybe try, ozzy, shout out slossy killer giants, uh. But you know, uh, that's another thing I do every year. I do a sloss fest. Uh got five tribute bands that you would have seen at oz fest and a couple of locals. That's a pretty cool thing too. But when you're talking five tribute bands, that's expensive as a band man, because that's, yeah, those guys, those guys all want, you know those guys all want to be paid. You know they don't. Uh, I feel bad because my band's shout out stronger than all. Uh, we don't hardly ever get paid because I'm in that band.
Speaker 2:So yeah, yeah, but it's. It's cool that, uh, you use the connections. You know whether it be the sponsors, whether it be the venues. Um, you know your sound, people and yeah, I got and I do.
Speaker 1:I got some great sponsors shout out to fifth street tattoo, two Ted's shirt shack and a square music company. Uh, my two buddies own the tattoo shops man and, and they did, they really helped me with my marketing and stuff and we'll have giveaways at the events, give away free tattoos and stuff like that and and it really helps draw people out and gives people and then, like I'll do, I'll raffle off tickets for not a free, not a free tattoo, but I'll sell raffle tickets for, you know, get like a $100 tattoo for five bucks or whatever. And that also helps me pay my bottom line and helps me pay my bills and you know, on those events. But you know, overall, over the last three and a half years I've spent about 30 grand throwing events. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:But, like you said, that's better than the alternative.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, I spent 100 grand on drugs the last six months I was getting high.
Speaker 2:So 30 grand on music over three years ain't nothing yeah, but the uh, yeah, we're gonna have nomad tattoo there. They're gonna be giving away some tattoos while we're there and uh, yeah, I'm, I'm excited about it. Uh, they're, they're really talented bunch and and they enjoy metal music, so that helps and I got.
Speaker 1:I got my stage aesthetic girl dialed in now too, with my mask and everything. I'm on 150 watt black lot to my, to my light, to my music and dude, let's talk about me showing up to one of your shows.
Speaker 2:I think it was the one I played with Zodiac. I'd show up and you're underneath the stage with a power drill.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was the first time I'd ever built that stage and it needed some adjusting and a little love, tender love and care. Yeah, because that's the thing out at eagles alps is they don't have a stage. You know what they do, but it's at the other end of the building. It's real small. Yeah, so my family, they, they run the eagles alps and they're like if you want to build your own stage, that's fine, but you've got to tear it down. So I gotta, I gotta, uh 12, a 12 by 12 by 20 stage that I have set up and tore down 11 times and the top of it gets pretty war. I've, really I've resurfaced it. Now it's got two layers and it's it's perfectly sturdy Now it'll withhold anything now.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I swear you had a. You had a piece of plywood pushed up and, like you're shoving these screws from underneath and I'm just standing there watching the whole time, Like that's exactly where I'm going to be standing the whole time. And you made it All right. Hey, I made it. I did.
Speaker 1:I made sure, you heard. I'm a professional carpenter, in my, in my, in my hustle. So before I started working with the juggery habits, all they ever did, my whole life was carpentry, so I mean building up wooden stage.
Speaker 2:Shit for me. Yeah, and I'm concerned, shout out to you because you, you finished up. Uh, you finished up a degree to to get that job, didn't you this last?
Speaker 1:year over at john wood. Yep, I sure did. I went from uh being a junkie to a college graduate in a little under three years. So it's just a matter of willingness. You know what I mean oh yeah, it's, it's a matter of willingness to. You know, want to be clean and want to stay clean, and that's what it is.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm sure that when you first started talking to your wife about going back into music, like, there was probably concern there, like, well, this is where you had a lot of your issues before, so going back to that. Are you going to do this in a healthy manner, or is it going to bring you right back to where you were when you started?
Speaker 1:The biggest thing about that is is I was at that level to where we were about to blow up and my meth addiction. I mean, I worked my whole life for that moment and the meth took all that away from me. And so like, first of all, it's a miracle that I even have a second chance. That's a miracle in itself, thank god, man. Second chance like I I've already done that, you know. I mean like, like I've been down that road. I played that tape all the way through whenever it crosses my mind.
Speaker 1:You know I mean here you are now in another band that's just as good as the one you had before and had, because, old man, metal is kind of a thing right now. You know, you got like max cavalera and all these guys, billy milano, they're all. They're all still touring, they're like pushing 60. You know what I mean, and and and so like there's a market for it. You know there's there's a market for, you know, gen x, motherfuckers that still love heavy shit, and um and so, uh, uh. I feel that if I still, even at 50 years old, have an opportunity to play sold out shows and it be a nationwide name, you know, at least on the level of like high on fire. You know what I mean. Like I think if we, if we would get a tour with like high on fire, we'd be, we'd blow up right after that, because them dudes sell out every show man, they're on tour with acid bath right now and, uh, our music is very comparable. You know what I mean. So, uh, I'm confident that once we have enough uh material for our epk and get the whole thing wrapped up in a package and start putting it out there, I think that I'm gonna have an opportunity to tour with some pretty big names, because I still have those connections too.
Speaker 1:You know the connections that I made in 2008, 2009, when I, when I was on prosthetic and and and all and all, all of the glory that I had back then with my band Carbide, when I relapsed and I lost everything. Then people were like hey, when you get your shit straight, let me know. You know what I mean. Like you're a liability right now. We don't want to work for you right now, but when you get your shit straight, let me know. So I still have all those things that are available to me as long as I keep my shit straight, and so keeping my shit straight is the number one priority in my life, because just having this opportunity in general is a miracle all in itself. You know what I mean. So I'm not going to squander two opportunities in one life. It's just not an option.
Speaker 2:Well, in being where we're at. I won't call myself a promoter, but it is what it is. Just being where we're at is more than us wanting to see ourselves be successful.
Speaker 2:I want to see my homies be successful like right now you know, we we had a little turmoil with our band not turmoil but we had a guy step down and we haven't been able to play. And I, I can sit and sulk about that forever and just say, well, I'm done, I'm gonna sell all my shit or I can see my homies win and I can keep setting up shows.
Speaker 1:So it's all just a matter of you know how you don't have to play and sing at the same time shit man, I could barely play, so I could barely sing.
Speaker 2:So putting those two together makes me a quarter. That takes away a lot more ability, but it is no, it's, it's very it's's about getting together, it's about a community. It's about, you know, lifting people up. You know, in some instances it's about you know.
Speaker 1:I felt like. I felt like, too that when I started this scene in Quincy man, I was going to give all the local bands a platform to like, hone their skills you know what I mean Like, um, and and give them some hope as to you know, because, like I said, I would like to start this conglomerate type of thing to where, like any midwest band that wants to be a part of it, you know, and then I can start pushing the website nationwide. Hey look, what y'all are missing out on on the midwest. You know, or even have like a spotify with just all these bands you know as potify playlists with, with all these midwest bands that are just really on a national level. Man, and you know and should have that opportunity, and even nowadays, if you get big on something you know, you can get big online and not even really have to tour and make money.
Speaker 2:So no, no, and that's that's. That's been a thing in the last 10 years is. I mean, there's some of these bands that never even get together or play together. They just send each other samples. It's crazy, um, but yeah, let's uh. So where can we find you on socials? Where can we find you online?
Speaker 1:uh, you can look at. You just look up midwest monster promo on facebook, tiktok, instagram, youtube and then um, the juggerna Agenda is on Facebook and on YouTube. It's Midwest TGA on YouTube, but that's about it. Those are all my socials.
Speaker 2:Okay, and you know, if you're in a band and you want somewhere to play, give Tim a holler. We've got more connections than than we can really use at this point, whether they want to come to quincy or macomb we got.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm, uh, I'm not booking anything right now, till after august, but uh, I will put the word out when, when I start uh, it's time to fill them slots yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:It never takes long, but I, I put out, I put out a couple shout outs and it's like yeah yeah, there's people out there that want to play and it's like you know, and I'm honest with all, unless they come right new york, of course, like those guys, I have I have a guarantee with them because they come all the way from new york. You know, I mean gosh and I have, I have a guarantee with them. But most of the local bands I'm like look, if everybody does their job and 200 people show up and I make $4,000 at the door, then everybody's going to get paid. But if only, you know, 50 people show up and I'm going to have to cover my expenses and we all played for free and everybody's cool with that.
Speaker 2:So yeah, and that's just how it is. I mean, it don't matter where you're at, but I, if it's always an amazing opportunity to network. Yes, Because that's what I was about to. That's what I was about to. To get on there was like, even if I don't have an event coming up or tim doesn't have an event coming, we got homies in the quad cities peoria, springfield, yeah the juggernaut.
Speaker 1:The juggernaut agenda is actually going to new york in may to play shows with my buddy, bonus. Shout out, bonus, that was the rapper that came down for crossover fest. And then we're playing in troy, new york, with bonus and a couple other metal bands and another rapper. And then the next night we're playing in binghamton, new york, with promises unsaid and their home turf and I've been watching their videos on their home turf. It's gonna be wild, bro, like they're pretty big on their home turf. So we're super excited about that. And uh, shout out, I'm looking for a show on the way back, like in Cincinnati, and one in Chicago on the 25th and 26th of May. So if anybody knows anybody out there, let me know.
Speaker 2:Let it be heard. All right, man. Well, I appreciate your time. Yeah, and getting really excited for the show this weekend. It just always seems like it's it's falling apart until it starts to come together. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:You got to keep going forward, man. Backward. There ain't, there ain't no honor in walking backwards. You just got to keep walking forward, man.
Speaker 2:You got to. You got to push that depression kitty off and then keep rolling.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Make it your bitch period in a sentence that's that's all right, man.
Speaker 2:Well, we'll keep at it. We'll see you saturday. Along with uh, sustenance and pursuit, that's gonna be a killer show dude, have some faces come out, show up.
Speaker 1:uh, it's gonna be a spectacle, a sight to see, and the music's gonna be pretty damn cool too. So we're looking forward to coming to melt in your face for 45 minutes. So we'll see you there All right, Sounds good man. Thanks guys, see you bud Later. Bye-bye.
