Episode 2 - Voice of Single Moms

Voices of Diversity host Rocki Howard, speaks to guest Stacey Romero.

Stacey Romero worked her way up from call center trainer to Lead Accessibility Manager without a degree. She did it while being a single mom of now 3 girls. Stacey's passion for advocating for the underrepresented is clear through her career choice and her volunteer efforts. Stacey and I met because we are both advisory board member for Jobs for Humanity.

Jobs for Humanity is a global movement of job creation. We are a volunteer lead organization that matches passionate advocates, especially employers with our growing causes to create jobs for underserved communities.

Stacy's story will teach us about resilience, tenacity all while she brings to life the concept of "pay it forward".

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Rocki Howard: 0:15

Welcome to the Voices of Diversity podcast. I'm your host Rocki. Howard, I identify as she/her/black/C ristian/GenX/wife/mom. Thes attributes are dimensions of m diversity of who I am. They are part of my unique value prop sition and how I add value to t e world. And I believe it is t me for the world to hear the tories of people like me, thos who are underrepresented in c rporate America. The miss on of this podcast is to huma ize diversity, one story, one onversation at a time to shar the impact on those who iden ify as being unde represented as they go thro gh life in corporate Amer ca. I hope you will listen to t is episode with open hearts and pen minds as today's guests tell their story. They are a voic of diversity. Stacey Rome o is Lead Accessibility Mana er for one of America's prem er communications comp nies. She worked her way up from call center trainer to her curr nt role with heart resi iency and tenacity, all with ut a college degree. Stacey acco plished this while being a sing e mom of three girls. Her pass on for advocating for the unde represented is clear thro gh her career choice and her olunteer efforts, one of whic is a seat on the advisory boar for jobs for humanity. Jobs for Humanity is a global move ent of job creation, a volu teer led organization that matc es passionate advocates, espe ially employers with a numb r of growing causes to crea e jobs for underserved comm nities. Stacy Romero's story of uccess and loyalty dem nstrates the positive impact of iversity. And her voice tru y represents the voice of the single mom. Hello, everybody, and welcome to the voices of diversity podcast. And I am so excited today to have my jobs for a cause colleague Stacy joined the call today. It's going to be a great 30 minutes in Stacy's story is just incredible in what she has to share and what she's accomplished. I'm certainly you guys are gonna want to hear. So Stacy, welcome to the voices of diversity podcast. Why don't you do me a favor and go ahead and introduce yourself to our audience.

Stacey Romero: 3:05

Thanks, Rocky and excited to be here. So I'm Stacey and I identify as a white female and I am a single mom. I'm a single mom of what was originally two daughters. Those daughters are grown now, ages 21 and 22. Along the way, I inherited a third daughter. She is a friend of my 22 year old and she came to live with us about three years ago, she was staying at a relative's house on the couch. And we I decided as my youngest one was going off to college that we had room in our homes and our hearts for one more person and she needed a place and she's moved from one state to another with us and as part of our family now too. So single mom of three girls,

Rocki Howard: 3:57

I love that I will tell you that Howard family believes in the power of love children, I have a lot of love children. And I think my life is forever enriched by their presence. So I appreciate the fact that you have a love child too. Right. So Stacey, do me a favor. Tell us a little bit about your career. What do you do for a living? And maybe as you're telling us what you do for a living, you can kind of walk us on a journey. What do you do now and tell us a little bit about how you got there? Sure.

Stacey Romero: 4:27

So I've worked for the same company for 15 years now i was i guess 15 and a half almost. I work I lead the accessibility learning function for a telecommunications company. And it's kind of a mouthful, right? But for those who may not be familiar with what accessibility is, it's all about making sure that your products, your services, your websites and mobile applications, work and are accessible to people with disabilities. And so my specific role within the company is making sure that all of our employees are equipped to support both customers and employees with disabilities, by teaching them about the accessibility features of our products and services, and making sure that they're equipped with the knowledge and skills, including things like disability etiquette and inclusion, and making sure that they know how to make things accessible. So kind of a big role. Really exciting. But I've, you know, I've been in this role for about two years, I've kind of migrated through the company in different roles, but always in a learning function. So I've led call center training, technical training, leadership development training, and landed here a couple years ago, after I realized when I met some of the folks on this team that were blind that, you know, the materials that my team was using to deliver training more inaccessible, and these folks were being excluded from training, and it didn't feel great. And so I went on this journey of trying to learn how to make materials accessible, so that I wouldn't be excluding anyone. And it actually led them to say, you know, hey, do you want to join our team and help us put together this learning function, and I relocated? And here I am Two years later,

Rocki Howard: 6:14

well, the world needs people like you. And I, you know, when I first heard about the work you were doing, as we were working together, and we continue to work together with jobs for humanity, I was so impressed by the level of work you do, because it's important work. We don't want to exclude. And I think so many times, we as individuals just don't know how to support different groups. And the fact that you saw an issue with people being excluded, and made a deliberate decision to pivot your career to support that group of people is super impressive. So you talked about being an lm D, do you want to tell us a little bit about your journey from how you kind of started your career to how you got into l&d?

Stacey Romero: 7:05

Yeah, you know, it's funny, I had, you know, I'm in this role. candidly, I don't even have a college degree. So my daughters are

Rocki Howard: 7:16

well educated right there. Yeah. And I had to learn Yes, because in full transparency, I don't have a four year degree, but I consider myself to be exceptionally well educated. So there is a difference in having a traditional education, which usually equates to having a degree and right making the decision to be well educated as you go along. Right?

Stacey Romero: 7:41

Yeah, absolutely. And that's what's kept me with this company for 15 years is I've always been able to learn and grow because learning is super important to me. And yeah, I didn't have like I, you know, I went to, like a four year college right out of high school, and, you know, got close enough to finishing that I was actually able to walk through graduation, wow. And then stopped, I, you know, I didn't go back, I ended up getting a job in a call center. And, you know, worked my way up in that company, because I worked hard, and I did well, and I enjoyed, you know, some privilege that we can probably talk about later, right? Yeah, in this conversation. But I ended up becoming a call center Trainer with that company. And I stayed with that organization for nine years. I got married during that time, I had two daughters. You know, my daughter's are 13 months apart in age. And right at the time that I ended up getting divorced, I left that company and started working for the organization I work for now. Wow. And so, you know, I started with them, like my career that 15 and a half years is the same amount of time that I've been a single mom, right is the same amount of time that I've worked for this company. So it you know, the timing aligns, you know, almost to the dot. But, you know, I can measure it in that that amount of time. It was right when my daughters were in first and second grade. But I you know, I started with this organization, I was a call center trainer, again, I became, eventually got promoted to a training manager. So, you know, I was always curious, I made some non traditional moves in my career, you know, I made lateral moves, when they were the right moves for me. You know, at times through reorganizations, I was told this is what you're going to do. So I ended up in technical training, not because I, you know, was particularly skilled in that area, but because through a reorg, somebody decided, Okay, we're gonna put her in charge of technical training, and I knew nothing about it. And here I end up in a field that's super male dominated, and I'm a single mom and you know, my boss is male and all of my peers were male, and all of my employees were male, and most of my clients were male, and here I am, you know, A female in this role that I don't even really have a lot of expertise in that area. I remember sitting in my office and crying for 10 minutes knowing like, now I'm being told this is what I'm going to have to do and realizing it's happening, whether I like it or not. So how am I going to make it work? Because I'm a single mom, I don't really have a choice, right?

Rocki Howard: 10:20

There's a lot of pressure there, right? You don't have a choice. You don't have the privilege of saying, Yeah, I don't want this job. Because I, I have responsibilities. I want to stay with that thought for a minute, because now you're into this point, this role that is, is male dominated. As a single mom, were there times when you felt like you've been excluded at work? And if so, can you share example with us about what that situation was and how it made you feel? Yeah, I

Stacey Romero: 10:50

have to say, like, I ended up in that role. Like, I stayed in that role for six years. And over time, my responsibilities like quadrupled. They went from, you know, giving me the area that I supported, ended up quadrupling over time. And eventually, I ended up I was, you know, living in Southern California. So I ended up you know, having like, all the entire southern California area, but I think the example that probably stands out the most for me. At one point, you know, my boss was based in Texas, and, you know, my peers were like, all over the country. And so I remember one time vividly where, you know, we had a face to face meeting, we'd have those a couple times a year. And so I'm traveling and you know, have all male co workers, I'm the only one who has to worry when we're getting together about what am I doing with my kids, and by now they were in high school, right? So they would stay alone when I traveled and my neighbors were, you know, kind enough to keep an eye on them for me, and you know, one of my neighbors like, Sure, I'll drop you know, the girls off at school for you. And, you know, I remember vividly this one day that he forgot, and so the girls are calling me and you know, in California is two hours earlier than in Texas. So I'm already in the middle of a meeting. And all of a sudden, my phone is just blowing up because the girls are like, you know, Russell forgot to take us to school, what are we supposed to do? How are we going to get to school and I'm, like panicking, and I can't get hold of anybody and find anyone who can take them to school. So I end up telling my high schoolers, you guys are gonna have to pay the, you know, five bucks apiece, and like, just get on the middle school bus and get to school late, and I'm calling the school to try to like report that they're going to be late. And they're like, mortified, because they're like, we're gonna have to be on the middle school bus. Like there's nothing worse when you're a high schooler than writing. Right?

Unknown: 12:45

Going through Mom, this is horrible,

Stacey Romero: 12:47

right? And I'm dealing with all of this. And I can just see through the glass windows in the conference room door, I can see eyes rolling at me because nobody is empathizing with the fact that, you know, they're all men. Right? And none of them like if this had happened, their wives would have handled it. Like I'm the single mom, there's nobody to handle this. Right. Like, you know, I didn't have like my, you know, my ex husband was living in a different state. You know, it was a unique situation, he lived on a commune, eventually, he actually moved out of the country. So when we split up, so it's not like he was involved, or I had him to, like, fall back on and share parenting, like, at any regular cadence. You know, it was I was doing it all on my own. So yeah, there were those times where I felt excluded. You know, at one point, they actually moved my role. And I was commuting 95 miles each way every day. Because I didn't want to move. Even though they offered me relocation or severance. I was like, I can't afford to take the severance and hope I find another job. I can't afford to relocate and not have neighbors to rely on when I travel. So I really don't have any choice other than commuting. So I traded in my for runner, you know, that was getting 15 miles a gallon and bought a Prius and drove 95 miles away each day, because that's sometimes the things you have to do as a single mom to make it work. Right. Wow.

Rocki Howard: 14:25

I really appreciate it and my heart is full because I think you said something in there. That was key, she shared your story and shared your struggle. And I'm sure across the 15 and a half years, you've been a single mom, you could tell us 101 of those types of stories. But I think you said something that was key is that there was no one around that had enough empathy to understand what you're going through. And I think empathy is one of the things that are the importance of empathy is one of the things we're trying to get across to our audience, is that when you're in Interacting with someone who is different than you and may not be part of the majority. Empathy is certainly required. You know, I want to pick back up on you talking about your role, because your role that you're doing right now is, is really pretty phenomenal. And when I think about your ability to be able to impact accessibility, for others, it's an important role. And so I'm wondering if you could qualify or quantify what you think your contribution has been to the company, especially in that role? Like, how many people do you think have been impacted by the work that you're doing? Oh,

Stacey Romero: 15:43

gosh, you know, it's hard to say like, the immediate team I work on is a team of about 18 people, about half of the team, right, people with disabilities primarily, you know, either blind or low vision. Right. And so, you know, obviously, there's an immediate impact there. But the broader impact, you know, again, it's, it's really varied thinking about making sure that, you know, I'm picking up and touching on customers with disabilities. So a lot of that work is can show that our customer facing employees are aware, when we launch a new product, or, you know, like, do they have the information they need so that when a customer calls in and asks about, like, how do I get the services that I need that they have at the touch of their fingers, that they're providing a good experience, that they're explaining things and not talking to a customer in terms of Oh, click here, when a customer who is who's blind can't click? Because they can't use the mouse? Because, you know, they're they typically the assistive technology they use is keyboard only, and you know, that maybe half the listeners out there don't, that might not make sense, right? Because if you're not familiar with that, you don't know that, but again, helping make that easier to understand so that it's a better experience for customers. You know, I don't know how to quantify that. Um,

Rocki Howard: 17:05

but it's certainly larger than that. I've helped it. Yeah, I

Stacey Romero: 17:09

hope so. Like, if it's one person I've impacted, then it's worth it. Right? Absolutely. If it's a better experience for one person, and I think about this one customer who's like I, you know, when the pandemic first started, I was working from home one day, and I like, called her back, I was like, I'll call this customer myself, to give her an answer. And, you know, I called her for my cell phone, and she has my cell phone number. And, you know, months later, she still calls me sometimes, and, you know, I honestly don't mind it. She's like, the sweet, sweet lady who's like, told me her story. And you know, we've connected she's this woman in her 70s, who lives in Massachusetts, and it's been fun to just really connect with her and, and hear her story and her journey, and that she ended up having a good experience with our company. But employees as well, right, like, I mean, the goal is to impact both customers and employees in a positive way.

Rocki Howard: 18:01

I absolutely love that. You know, you talked a little bit about the challenge that you had balancing, you know, being a single mom, with your significant responsibilities at work, what and and you also mentioned earlier that you recognize that you were able to make a trajectory due to some privilege. Can we unpack that just a little bit? Can you share some of the challenges that that you think you had in growing your career? And those challenges as related to you being a single mom? And then certainly, any way you want to interject your feelings about the privilege that you've been afforded? Certainly, you can do that as well.

Stacey Romero: 18:45

Yeah. So I mean, here's the thing, like I, you know, I was adopted, you know, I was adopted as an infant, my birth mom was 15 years old, when I was born. And I think the, you know, she was certainly smart enough to know that she was not equipped to raise me, and I'm grateful for that. You know, it's funny, I found paperwork A few years ago, before, you know, my mom who raised me passed away. It'll be two years coming up in a few weeks, but I found some paperwork in my parents safe. And it showed that, you know, they paid $480 to adopt me. So, think about the Times have changed, right? Yeah. Um, you know, but like, they gave me just this huge opportunity, right, like, it's so So what they did is, you know, they they gave me like this access, you know, conversations around the dinner table growing up, right. And, you know, they expose me to things, they encouraged me, you know, in high school, they gave me the opportunity to be an exchange student to a foreign country. And, you know, as a result of that, I learned that you know, another language and you know, that Post me to all kinds of different things so that in spite of the fact of not completing college, which by the way, when my daughters were finally grown and old enough to, like my youngest started college on our own shortly after that, like I took advantage of my company's tuition reimbursement, I had the leader I was reporting to at the time, it was a phenomenal person encouraged me to do that. And I'm, I'll be finishing my bachelor's degree in business in a few months, I'm planning to go. Green. So, you know, I'm happy to round that

Unknown: 20:32

out. Thank you.

Stacey Romero: 20:35

Yeah, really happy to have that, right. Um, you know, I've always like, because I love learning, I just couldn't balance that with, you know, working full time and trying to grow my career. And being a single mom, you know, there was only so many hours in the day and living in Southern California on a single income and trying to keep a roof over our heads. I was like, I can't pay for school. Because any money I have is gonna go towards, you know, I earn too much to qualify for any support. So I'm paying for college on my own to write for the girls.

Rocki Howard: 21:06

But I'm lucky my employer is paying for my school so that I can continue to try to pay for theirs. It's important. So I want to call out to employers out there that tuition reimbursement is an example of diversity done, right. It's a benefit that can really support your underrepresented colleagues. Right?

Stacey Romero: 21:25

Absolutely. Like it's made such a difference for me, like, I'm so appreciative. And I will tell you, the leader that I had is like a fantastic human being. And she herself like, has been great. When she encouraged me to go back to school and complete my degree, I ended up leaving her team and the what one of the things that she said to me when I accepted this other, you know, she supported me, as I said, I think I want to do this thing. And she said, I'm going to be sorry to see you go. But she said Promise me you won't give up on school. And then I found out afterwards that she contacted like, as she had the transition conversation with my new leader about like, what was my start date going to be? She said, I need you to promise me that you're not going to let Stacy give up on school. Right?

Rocki Howard: 22:08

I love that. I love that. And you know what, that's a perfect lead into the question I was gonna ask you Next, which is, do you have? Or do you want to call out an ally or a mentor that has really supported you and and made a difference in your career? Would it be that person? Or would it be?

Stacey Romero: 22:26

It would be harder, she's a fantastic and she's actually, like, talk about a fantastic black leader. She is the female black leader strong. I mean, just a huge support. You know, and it's funny, because at the like, those little things the day that my youngest daughter started college, you know, I relocated for that role with the company. I moved from San Diego to Charlotte, North Carolina.

Rocki Howard: 22:51

Oh, wow. It's a huge move.

Stacey Romero: 22:53

Yeah, that was a huge move. And so the day my daughter started college, she started back in San Diego. And so as I was getting ready to move in the dorms leader texted me because she was my boss at the time, right? She texted me that day, and the text was actually from my daughter, who she'd never met in person, but she just said, you know, hey, Alexa, your mom is super proud of you. She's probably gonna cry today. You know, this is just like such an important moment in your life. You know, I want you to know this. Enjoy this moment. You know, I just sent the most meaningful text to my daughter. And as a little thing, it didn't cost her anything. But it was such a big thing. Three, that was three years ago, three and a half years ago now. And I remember it, even though I don't report to her anymore. I still stay connected with her. So I texted her last May, and said, Hey, Alexa, graduated. And she graduated, my daughter graduated in three years Magna laude from San Diego State.

Rocki Howard: 23:47

Congratulations.

Unknown: 23:49

Right.

Stacey Romero: 23:51

So she finished and then you know, like, at that point special wasn't my boss anymore, but she still took the time to text my phone again and said, Hey, Alexa, this is Basha. You know, I just want you to know how amazing it was for you to graduate in three years. And do that, well, in school in the middle of a pandemic. I know that like things are uncertain, you know, my poor kid like her, the job she lined up had fallen through ended up falling through because of the pandemic. You know, I've since relocated Colorado, so she's here in Colorado in a place she's never lived before. She doesn't have friends here. doesn't really know what she's doing.

Rocki Howard: 24:29

Yeah, and it's a tough transition. I think what you've given us is a powerful example for leaders who want to be inclusive. It's never the big things. It's the small things of intentional recognition for the circumstances that someone is in. That means the most so so let me ask and that's exactly

Stacey Romero: 24:51

it. Actually, Rocky, like, my boss knew that the thing that mattered the most to me as a single mom was my family. And in that moment that mattered. When I was saying goodbye, putting my daughter like getting herself in that dorm and getting ready to say goodbye, that moment that she took just to say I'm recognizing this important moment, like that meant loyalty to me, like that was everything. And even though I ended up leaving that role, because I found this really purposeful work and accessibility, the fact that we've stayed connected, and she continues to support that, like, she's remained a mentor for me and an anchor, and somebody that I still like, will connect with for, like, I support, you know, I appreciate her guidance and her advice, as I still continue to look at that career trajectory for myself.

Rocki Howard: 25:42

I love that. So let me ask you this. And let's take that in a different direction. So what responsibilities Do you feel to support other single moms in the workplace?

Stacey Romero: 25:56

I, you know, I just want to see other people grow and thrive. Because I know it's not as easy today. I know, it's not as easy like, you know, it, like it hurts my heart sometimes, because I feel like for my own kids, I know that it's like, the path isn't as easy as it was, you know, for me when I was their age, and just starting out, right, like, that's why I've pushed so hard for them to get, like, get the education that I didn't have. Because I know it's not as easy as it was, then. I also know I have privilege that like somebody who didn't have those same privileges would not have probably had as an easy of a time making it to where I've made it. If, you know, based on some of the privilege that I've had, I know, I'm really passionate, like I lead my companies, I'm one of the leads for my company's disability inclusion, Business Resource Group. And so I'm really passionate about trying to connect our hourly employees specifically, and give them opportunities for development. I know sometimes it's easy when we have like these volunteer employees for you know, we recently had one to try to get someone to help us with some of the budget and administrative stuff. And it's so easy to like and tempting to want to tap the people who are already in salaried roles, because they have a little more flexibility and schedules to attend things and jump in and help with things. But I'm always like, that I always want to try to advocate for let's try to help somebody who's in an hourly role. And give them those opportunities, because those are the things that they can put on their resume to try to help to move up, right, whether it's a single mom, you know, like, one of the people who'd applied it was, you know, an employee an hourly role. And he was, it was a, he was a black male with an MBA. And I was like, you know, and he was somebody who said, the reason why I'm volunteering for this, I'm really passionate, because I have epilepsy. And I was like, Okay, this is somebody with a disability, as a black male, with an advanced degree like, this is the person like, let's try to give him involved and give him that opportunity to take on a stretch assignment that he can add to his resume. Because he's passionate about the work and in an hourly role, let's give him that opportunity to get more engaged and involved, right.

Rocki Howard: 28:16

I love that. And there's so many things to unpack there, right. But it really is about, you know, giving people who most need the help the opportunity to shine, you're not giving them something, you're giving them an opportunity. And so with that, I guess I I'd like to ask you, what advice would you give, you know, inclusive leaders, employers who are committed to diversity, about working with a diverse group of people, or working with single moms? What advice do you have?

Unknown: 28:53

Gosh,

Stacey Romero: 28:56

you know, I, I think it's be curious, be open benchmark with other companies. You know, my company, I were really fortunate. I don't know if you're familiar with Gartner.

Rocki Howard: 29:09

Yes, I am. Okay.

Stacey Romero: 29:11

Yeah. We have a partnership with Gartner. And so we're able to get access to like benchmarking studies and research. But, you know, if you don't have access to that, like I know, for myself, when I like came to this accessibility role, like I didn't know a ton, but what I started doing on my own is, you know, building out my network on LinkedIn and looking at like, Where are there other people? And I didn't know of anybody else, like, certainly I was, you know, in a accessibility learning role. So I started just looking at who else is doing accessibility learning work, right, or accessibility training, and started just trying to like search for people on LinkedIn. And you know, there's not a lot of people that specifically have like an accessibility learning manager title. But Microsoft had somebody and Microsoft is a company that is doing fan fantastic work in this particular space, right? And so I cannot

Rocki Howard: 30:04

believe them, Bill and Melinda, we appreciate you.

Stacey Romero: 30:08

And Jenny lay Fleury is their chief accessibility officer. And I mean, phenomenal, right? Like they're so far ahead of the game, they have like an autism hiring program. That is top notch. So they're doing some great things there. So for me, like it was about going out looking and seeing who is doing good work in the space, and then reaching out and connecting and just like asking them, are you open to having a conversation with me, so that I can learn from you about what you're doing? Right. And like their accessibility learning team and their accessibility and evangelists were open to meeting with me and sharing best practices. And you'd be surprised when you reach out to people and say, I'm not trying to sell you anything, as so many people seem to be these days and say, I'm just want to learn from you. How many people are willing to share their best practices with you? You know, I've had some phenomenal conversations, I'm able to learn in this space, specifically that way. So I think as companies are looking for that it's looking at who's doing good work in that space, and ask for ideas and sharing best practices. The other thing is really looking at, like, measure and figure out what is it that you're trying to measure in that DNI space? What is meaningful to measure and then start from somewhere and measure it because you're not going to make progress if you don't measure, like, start to measure but figure out what you're measuring for and what's going to be impactful?

Rocki Howard: 31:45

Yeah, but I want I want to make sure it's called out that you said not only measure, but figure out what's meaningful before you start measuring. Stacey, this has been a great time together, I can't believe we've already been talking 30 minutes. I know thinking it's insane. So tell me this, let's wrap up. But I want to wrap up with this. As you know, our platform is all about giving a voice to those who are underrepresented. And certainly single moms are underrepresented in the workforce, and especially in leadership roles. So I want to give you I want to give a platform and a stage to your voice as a single mom. What would you like to say as we wrap up as what about what it feels like to walk through the corporate world as an under represented person?

Stacey Romero: 32:35

I think the biggest thing is, you know, don't be afraid, go out there focus on learning, focus on growing, don't be focused on title, just look for those opportunities, where you can learn and grow even if sometimes it means moving laterally to continue to grow yourself.

Rocki Howard: 32:54

Be out there, there

Stacey Romero: 32:55

are people who will be willing to give you a chance.

Rocki Howard: 32:57

That's great. And maybe from the other side of it, because that's great advice. If you're a person who's under represented, if you're a person who's leading and as someone who's under represented, what do you want them to hear?

Stacey Romero: 33:10

You know, I think that single moms have so much to offer in the workplace. We are people who are committed, who will work hard, who will stay if we feel like, you know, if you think about my story, I was willing to find a way to get things done. I was willing, I like I stayed with my company for so long. Because, you know, I wanted to make things work because my driving force is my family and providing for my family, right. And my job is a means to do so. And being there and being loyal and committed is the way that I'm going to be able to do that. You are going to have loyal people, and loyal, committed employees who will add value, because they're going to work hard. So don't overlook this population.

Rocki Howard: 33:56

I love it. Stacy, thank you so much for being a voice for diversity. And thank you so much for your time today.

Stacey Romero: 34:04

Thank you for having me. Rocki.

Rocki Howard: 34:08

Thank you for listening to today's episode. The mission of this podcast is to give a voice to diversity. I believe that the interactions between all voices, minority and majority can change the narrative of how the world communicates. And by changing that narrative, we can change the world. Join our mission to humanize diversity, one story, one conversation at a time by sharing our episodes, especially with those who are privileged and in positions of power. Help the voices of diversity podcast, be a catalyst for courageous conversations, and most importantly, for change. I'm your host Rocki Howard

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