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Music Mashtun 04 Stella Ruze

November 06, 2018 Round Guys Brewing Company Season 2 Episode 6
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Music Mashtun 04 Stella Ruze
Show Notes Transcript

It all started when Brendan Johnson turned his back on corporate America to pursue his true dream of music. A Manayunk fixture, Johnson found himself playing open mics before he bumped into Katie O’Donnell, his future musical partner who’d help him forge the sound that he be described as a folk jam band. 

Stella Ruze returns to the Underground on November 30th prior to going back into the studio for their third album release. This time, a full twelve track album is on the slate. The Original Slacker podcast sat down to discuss the musical evolution of the band from just two individuals to, now, seven. They’re a big band, with a full body sound, and a light-weight spirit. 

Stella Ruze in many ways presents itself as a jack of all sounds, but in truth, the possess a modern folk backbone complete with complementary male/female harmonization. In this interview, Brendan Johnson and Katie O’Donnell joined host Bill McGeeney to perform upcoming album song “the Greater Dog.” The Original Slacker podcast Music Mashtun is presented by Round Guys Brewing Company and recorded on location at the Underground venue in Lansdale, PA. Additional audio provided by Dinosoul ("Right Now").

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to another episode of the original slacker podcast presented by round guys brewing company. I'm your host, Bill mckinney. Today we're going to do a music Mash Tun episode with our friends from Stella Ruse. Katie O'donnell and Brendan Johnson. These guys, uh, in uh, 2015. Billy Penn article were, describes totally unique and modern sound that is complex, yet approachable and I can't agree with that anymore. I love having these guys around love hearing their music and really excited to have them on the show. Do you like to learn more about the original stacker podcasts? You can find us at facebook.com/the original slacker grounded guys brewing company, which is, this is recorded in our facility at the underground where they're going to be playing on November 30th at apm for$8. You can find tickets and information on the undergrounds facebook page or find us on ticket leaf through round guys brewing company and all the information will be up there. Facebook.com/round guys or facebook.com/rgb. See Underground. You can also find it on our website, round guys, brewery.com. Without further due, I'm going to jump right into the interview and let these guys can talk to him

Speaker 2:

so they have with me. That's delicious. Brendan Johnson and Katie Burke of stellar route. Katie O'donnell now. Katie O'donnell. Hey, you guys didn't give any update on that. Sorry, I forgot. It's new installations by the way. I get it wrong a few times and on Mandolin and vocal. Katie. Oh Shit. What's her last name? That one. Go Walk. Welcome down here guys. I really appreciate you guys coming down. Thanks for having us. Uh, how's, how's life been? How have you guys been? Life's been good. It's been really good. Yeah. UK, it sounds great. Yeah, it's been, it's been good. It's been a, it's been busy.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. We're coming to a close on our summer shows which was plentiful and uh, get ready to kind of cap off the year. You guys had a really active summer shows. Did you guys do during that time? Um, that's a good question. If you include private parties and weddings. Yeah. Stood up upwards of 25, something like that. Sounds. Yeah, I think like 20 to every weekend. Nice, yeah, any favorites, any ones that really stick out, but some new venues which were always fun.

Speaker 2:

We played a handful of outdoor shows that always happened to be like super hot, so that Kinda kept us on our toes a little bit. They were fun, but we were like,

Speaker 3:

yeah, we played some pretty big productions this summer was a, a, a level up from where we were last year. Uh, we played second street festival in northern liberties. That's a big one, which was a very busy crowd and a receptive crowd at that time was, it was, it was like 11:00, 5:00. We were in like the afternoon, I think it was like 2:30, 3:00 because they were kind of drunk, but they're not too drunk. Like they're dancing but it's not out of control. And you know, we're seven pieces now so it helps when you have a big enough stage for us.

Speaker 4:

You guys, you guys have a big band. Let's talk about that for a second. And I know last time you guys are on, you kind of acquire people as you went along. Just found someone here, found someone there and it just jelled. You guys are going back into studio again for the third time, right? Yeah. And how's that gonna work with the big band? Is the whole band coming in? So it's just just you, Brendan, just you, Katy. Like I know last time round you guys use some studio musicians. I want you to tell me a little bit more about what you guys are planning for next album.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. So we're, we're working on demos now to try to be as efficient as possible because once you get in there and the minute start taking away as did the dollars. So um, you know, the joys of being an independent musician, independent band had heard rumors that last time round wasn't as efficient as possible. It wasn't. We rediscovered a lot of things in the studio in which is not the greatest place to be making changes because you're like, you want to be making the most efficient time there. But I mean, I guess they turned out well that last turned out well.

Speaker 4:

Your, your last sort of songs do, you could notice there's dramatic maturity to them from your first round and it seemed like you still found founded sound, whereas the first album it, you had a lot of different sounds on there. Right? He had some, he had some jazzy funky songs that I don't think at all came across in the second album. You guys had some slow songs that didn't quite mimic by the time. Right. But they, it just appeared to be a, you had a thumbprint in a second album versus the first album is kind of all over the place. So how do you feel, do you feel is still ruse, has developed its own personality that you guys have jelled doing 26 shows, was that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think we have, um, you know, I think that, um, I think that if we were ever fully content on what we're doing, then we're just for ourselves, we're doing something wrong. You know, I think that we're constantly improving. I think with new music that's written and worked on the sound grows a little bit tighter and more mature. Um, you know, kind of finding our, you know, not to sound corporate, but kind of finding our brand, you know, a little bit and refining what it is we want to sound like a,

Speaker 2:

I think it's always different to like we just over the past couple of weeks we started working on a new song that I think all of us were like, oh, this is a little different, but it's still along the progression of what we've been doing, but it's just like had a little different feel and I think that's, we're all getting kind of excited about getting back in to be able to share some of these new songs because once we got done with the previous album and recording and everything, we immediately were like, oh, we've got some new great stuff already that we think is even better that we can't wait to share. So I think we're looking forward to that.

Speaker 4:

Yeah. And Lot of times in the beginning, right, the band, there's a music is communication and you just don't have that level of comfort and community. You'll know how the other person communicates. Right. And now you guys have played together for about a year, right? As a whole band. And that comfort level has to be yielding some, some unique sounds at that. Everyone's, it's normalizing, I guess the characteristics of all of you guys. Right? Definitely. So a full length album, right? Is that what we're aiming for in 29 slash 80, which is a rare, rare deal these days. You're adulation. Good luck. Thanks. And how many songs you guys already have come plotted out?

Speaker 2:

Well it depends on who you ask. I think it'll end up being like a, a, a voting or not voting, but I think we're going to. We'll probably have the recording more than we'll put on maybe and see what.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, what fits and what sounds the of the materials there. Yeah. Okay. We're backlogged floats. The good news is some musical constipation. Yeah. The creativity hasn't stopped, right? You know, the songs gratefully I'm on, I'm on my side, you know, the, the newer stuff and the newer music continues to present itself. Um, and when I'm able to present it to the guys and Katie to work on is really where we know where we are in as efficient because we're playing so often, oftentimes when we get together for rehearsal or practice, it's, it's not necessarily to add new music in all the time. Um, when we get those rehearsals, you know, it just, it, it really, uh, energizes us because, you know, we're hearing and playing something brand new and everyone gets to work on something brand new within our it, all of us, you know, it sparks what we had in the studio. So I guess to, to digress on the very first studio experience versus the second, you know, I would say that, um, the second one really because the songs weren't refined and finished, the second one really allowed us to get comfortable in the studio and in that setting really start to stretch our wings a little bit. Whereas the first experience, you know, those songs we had been playing, you know, as a, as the founding for, you know, for a year or so. So those songs really flushed out. So when we got in, it was kind of bang, Bang, Bang versus the second studio experience, which was a little bit more touch and go and uh, you know, more of a learning experience. So

Speaker 2:

the second time around was cool too because like the first time around the songs where they were done, they were how they were going to be. We went in and did them exactly how we always had and then this time, the second time around we were changing things which was I guess probably a little nerve wracking on our part, but I think it was for the better because it was giving the songs a little bit of a fresh take and we were able to take advice from the people we were working with to try to better, better the songs and keep us on our toes. I think it was probably a good, a good learning experience for us all.

Speaker 3:

And you guys work with Matt, Mira and Ben Arnold. And Are you going to be working with those guys again on next album or. Yeah, we hope to at least get some capacity. And how much impact did they have when you were saying about changing around the song, how much impact did they have on you structuring or restructuring some of those songs you brought into the studio a? Well, Matt and Ben are like Super Pros, you know, they really don't. Um, they don't interject unless you ask Ben. I kinda pulled aside before we started recording this, the, um, the self titled App, which is our second studio or seconds to two d studio experience. Ben and I kind of worked aside from the studio work, I wanted his sort of expertise on more of the lyrics and the themes of the songs, whereas Matt was kind of a more day of in the studio I'm engineering tips, you know, where, what microphones we should use for which insurance and uh, um, when it came to percussion, uh, we kind of, we kind of relied on Matt a little bit to interject. We asked him what his take was on a few tunes because he's such a good drummer. Has that been

Speaker 2:

right? We didn't have a drummer and so it was, it was honestly, I think his before Sean Mcintyre, his input on the drums, that probably led us to being like, wow, I think we, I think we need a drummer because none of us thought it was going to make as much of a difference as it did to have a drummer.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. And that was kind of one of the catalysts to us really thinking about adding a full time drummer to the mix. When did you record that? Um, uh, two years ago? Yeah, it was like December of 2016 because it releases 2017. Right. So how did it take

Speaker 4:

from start to finish to get that album

Speaker 3:

not out? I think about three months. Two and a half. I mean we were in the studio every day, so it's kind of going away and then revisiting, finding money to go back to the studio. Partly. Certainly we all work a lot of different schedules and so we would love to be in a position where we can just take a week off of our day jobs and just because I feel like that's when you get the good stuff down when you're just like kind of their days in a row. So it's, which is maybe something we can. I'm really the only one out of the group who's doing this full time, who's able to to go in, um, you know, and do a couple of weeks straight, straight up, you know, day in, day out. Um, but it also benefits us a little bit in that we do step away because your ears in studio, your ears get fatigue and um, you know, if you're constantly there, you know, you, you won't necessarily have a fresh fresh take on it. So it's nice to take breaks when you get an opportunity.

Speaker 4:

Yeah. I find if you wake up with that one thought in mind just to do one thing, that's how when you're talking about being part time, when it's hard and it must be really hard with a seven, eight piece band because you have other things on your plate and your, your focus is pulled away, but when you wake up with that one focus, then your mind gets going, you get in the shower, your mind gets going, and then at some point during the day, everything just flows out much easier. Right. So what is it like to be full time musician Mustaine age? How does, how's that different from Katie's experience?

Speaker 3:

Um, well you never turn down a gig whether it's solo or, or with the band obviously is the preferred opportunity. Um, have you done bowel solo? Yeah, that's where you start it. Yeah. Essentially that's where every artist starts. Um, but yeah, especially as a singer, songwriter, guitarists, definitely. And you're still doing a singer songwriter one aside. So yeah, that's where the solo shows come in. Now you're testing a lot of these new ideas. Okay. Yeah, certainly. Yeah. And usually it's pretty rowdy crowd and I'm playing too, you know, they mostly one cover songs and whatnot. So when you throw in a song they don't know, they'll let you know if

Speaker 4:

good. Well it may not be to their liking. Right. It just might be alum.

Speaker 3:

Where do you usually play your solo stuff at South Philly? Yeah. Uh, my fiance and I live in south philly. So it's, it's, uh, in any given night and passing on. Exactly. Yeah. Yep. Excellent.

Speaker 4:

So with a seven, eight piece band, you being the only fulltime one, how often is the band actually together? Shows the full band together. Do you guys, are you guys able to sustain that? I know we get other accent here and it's very hard for them to maintain the full band because obviously, you know, the thing is you have to survive. Right? And then music comes along for most people because they're not going to survive on the music now. So how does that usually work? Do you guys usually get the full band together for your shows?

Speaker 2:

I think we usually get most. And I think now that our sounds been evolving, um, like we, we played a smaller Gig one time that we agree like we knew it was only going to be a couple of us and we were okay with that and we all felt the loss of the missing pieces because now that we're so used to playing with um, such a full sound, we were, we were missing those guys. But, um, I think that now we've just been trying to be conscious about, you know, we have a family calendar that we all try to keep updated so that if we're going to accept a Gig, we know from that point on who's going to be there, you know, if, if one person can't be there, you know, we can, we can make do. But um, we, I mean we always prefer obviously to have the whole.

Speaker 3:

The whole group. Yeah. I think for a seven piece band, we have a lot of dedicated members to this thing. You know, we, we just did a, a good round of shows this past summer. It was a pretty big number for seven people and almost every show all of us were there, so I think we're all definitely feeling good things about where we're going and I'm, the family calendar has definitely been a,

Speaker 4:

it's like an extended, extended family, right, because you have people who are all parts of their life in this calendar and that has to throw wrenches in there and I'm sure when it comes to scheduling stuff you far out as possible probably. So you can lock it in.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But then like he's, he's right, you know, you don't say no to a Gig. We played the second street first. That was the week of my wedding and so it was like the Sunday before I was getting married on a Friday and we were like, yeah, why not? Let's do it.

Speaker 4:

So you went there was the Sunday before the Friday?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was a Sunday. Yeah, the, so it was like couple of days out from the wedding and I'm like, what was it? We had a great time. It was, it was probably like the best thing to, you know, we had, that was a really fun show. So that was.

Speaker 4:

No. Did the at all play at your wedding?

Speaker 2:

Um, they didn't play. I didn't wanna I didn't wanna make them make them work, but they all came and had a good time. And the band that she had at her wedding was, it was a, do you want to give them a shout out? Sure. They were the um, a bottoms up, dixieland jazz band, something, a big name. Yeah. Oh, they were great. They were, they were really. Yeah, it was like an eight piece, um, horns only, lots of horns, like an upright bass, a great singer. Um, and the, um, the, you guys helped with a sound, which was a huge help on my part. But um, yeah, they were great. They were very, everyone's dancing time kind of like that New Orleans sounds fun.

Speaker 3:

We had met them through a, um, I show that we had shared with them that last column in Fishtown. Okay. So that's how we linked up with them and it was cool to see them again at Katie's wedding and such a special event.

Speaker 4:

That's so cool. That's awesome. That's a great part about being in a scene. You know, you get some great bands that you have going to have a wedding and throw a great party library tooth. That was fun. Which brewery in the Poconos? Barley creek. Bridge Creek? Yeah. Okay. Now they've extended. I haven't been up there since last time I went up to camelback. Oh I love Canada. They've extended like across the street have they feel like they have a whole corner of the bird. It's like a big, huge outdoor thing. They have like an outdoor bar and patio and they have like, it's okay. You can talk about other breweries on the show. It's fine. No, that's great. Now you guys looking at doing any kind of shows outside of the philly region coming up and if you are, how, how would you logistically make that happen? Would you guys have to take off two weeks of your lives to kind of, to make something like that work?

Speaker 3:

I think the immediate goal going in 2019 is to put together sort of long weekends and I'm sort of efficient runs so that we'll be able to go up and, you know, play a Thursday, Friday, Saturday, come home on Sunday so everyone could go back to work on Monday if they need to. Give us a chance to make connections and some of the other cities. And where are you guys looking at? Well we're, we're kind of lucky here on the east coast. All these bands we meet from out west, you know, they, it's funny, they always comment on how lucky we are to have New York city an hour and a half away or dc an hour and a half away the other direction or Harrisburg and hour and a half away west. You know, we have all of these large metropolitan areas with a lot of ears and new audiences with within just a short drive. We're out west, you have to drive, you know, four and a half hours the next day. So I think we'll know going in that direction and kind of, you know, forward momentum as long as we continue to progress upward, um, you know, any new venues we can play in a new city.

Speaker 4:

You guys looking at it. So interested in Allentown, New York, Brooklyn. What do you mean? Yeah,

Speaker 3:

exactly. We've been up to New York before. We've played in a little Italy place called a Fontana's. Um, so essentially it's just finding a good venues for us and our Americana. Indeed. Folk jam whenever you want to call us, you know, where, where we can go and play and be accepted. And you know, we, we do play weddings privately so, you know, even it is a three hour gig. We can still play a lot of music people. No. So all ears out there if you have any venues, police violence, it's still a ruse.com for all your music needs to

Speaker 4:

the uh, you got, I think you described the band as a folk indie jam band, which if it's a, it's a cool sound. And I, like I was telling Katie before we recorded that had some people who last time around they listened and they came down just for the sound they came down just because they want to. They like the music they heard at the end and, and it's a solid f for, it's more lively, it's more eclectic and it's full bodied, you know, you have a full range of, of sound in air. Uh, I think this area is a little more predisposed America since the folk fest saturated the area. You guys ever thinking about going down, you know, stretching down your wings to Tennessee and seeing what goes on down that way.

Speaker 3:

That'd be awesome. I'd love to. Katie and I had our first show in Colorado this past year. So that's quite a leap. Or was that the city? Uh, yeah, we played in boulder. That's a great title outside of the university. It was a quick trip, but it was find a way to make that long trip. We already kind of plotted that out or like if they ask us back next year like we're going to for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I mean to the ironman organization, Tim brushes. Thank you sir. It was a great

Speaker 4:

place. I love being out there. If we used to go out there for Gabf every year, which is the great American beer fest and I personally wasn't a fan of the actual fast because there's a giant beer festival, but the fun part was to go out there to all the different breweries because everyone in the industry is in Denver or boulder or Colorado Springs. They're all in that area. Saturated area for that, that weekend and everyone's doing collaborations and you go in and you just meet so many cool people from all over the world who are all doing beer. That's awesome. So it was always fun and Colorado's a great spot for other things. So, you know, for skiing and for anything outdoors. But uh, on the beer side, I'm sure in the music side that boulder bolder house me an excellent city. Yeah. Yeah. So you guys are going back into the studio and you have. How many songs do you think at the moment you kind of feel comfortable that you're bringing in? Well then, or of 12, 12 is your target, right? Yeah. And are you guys doing a kind of an album release with that? Are you guys going to do anything special? I actually had a band at this on a podcast preceding this labelle and pool and these guys for the first album, what they're actually doing is doing hand printed album covers, um, for the cds, which is I think kind of unique. I mean this day and age it's much more about the experience tactile and about everything is experiential. I know that gets kind of redundant in a, you know, when you hear about it out there, but it really is true. What's your thoughts on being able to engage your fans in a way that's, that's unique, that's maybe stands apart from so many other performers out there? How does still a ruse differentiate themselves from the next Americano?

Speaker 3:

Well, that's a really good question. Yeah. I would say let's start there because that's. There's beer if you need some time. Every band strives for that uniqueness today, you know, to stand out, what, what could you be doing better? What could you be doing different? Right. So, you know, oftentimes we kind of rely on the music to stand out on its own. You know, this John was seeking is difficult for us because, you know, we play a lot of different styles and we bring a lot to the table.

Speaker 4:

Do you, do you feel like you need to genre seek? Do you feel like you need to be put into a box?

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I think I kinda like that we don't fit into a box and I think um, I think the last time we were, we spoke with you, we mentioned how like we all come from very different musical backgrounds. Um, and I think that that is evident when you see a live show because you'll get a little bit of all of our different sounds. I think. So I think that. And I think that's kind of what makes us unique.

Speaker 4:

Yeah. One of the things I remember is you guys shot a video in one take, right? In principle park, which that's phenomenal one take, right? I don't think that I will say that 80 percent of people, not just musicians will not be able to do something in one take like that. And that was a really great video. Thank you. So okay, well I want to thank you guys for coming on. Katie O'donnell and Brenton Johnson. Thank you so much for coming on the original slacker podcasts and Music Mash Tun. Where can people find you guys on the internet or anywhere else

Speaker 3:

world? Yeah, a great show. Coming up on Friday, November 16th with Pete Francis of dispatch. Ooh. It said$10 show at the field house in Philadelphia, downtown Philly, which is part of reading terminal market. Right. So right now the train you get right up there. They can post poultry goods, may if they have a really good beer lineup. We used to be on tap down there. They're very confused lineup. You bring them. And then for all you all you round guys fans were at. I'm back here at round guys brewing company in landsdale at the underground Denver November 30th at the. At the underground. That's right. November 30th,

Speaker 4:

$8. Eight o'clock show, we actually have the regular ga ticket and we also have a promo ticket if you want to do tacos as well,

Speaker 3:

doesn't want to do Tacos, Tacos, your music. What more is there in love and then for anyone in Delaware where at home grown cafe in new work on December first. Excellent. Everyone out there just want to check out more of still roots music and go to our website.[inaudible] dot com or find us on itunes, spotify, youtube and wherever. Fine music is streamed. That's right. Excellent.

Speaker 4:

Katie, you sing lead in a couple of songs right now on the albums. Are you guys planning to extend it out and a new album?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think. I think that any song that really showcases Katie's vocal prowess is a good idea. Um, so I think we strive. I think we always strive to do that, involve her more, especially your vocals. So we defined now

Speaker 4:

that's day to the first album you guys had. So here, LP, you did about two songs, I think, two songs where your lead vocals and then the last one, salaries you had, you had the one btw and you could tell me again what the band kind of coalescing congealing a bit, uh, in, uh, the difference between the first and second album was a, it felt more like cell ruse. It didn't feel like some alien invasion that didn't match up with silvers. And similarly a Brendan, your song, your vocals definitely matured by the second album because it still felt like a singer songwriter, solo musician at times and a whispering into the mic and then it became much more of a, of the vocal range appeared. Some observations I didn't know. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I think, um, every,

Speaker 3:

every album we, we hope to improve upon all range of things, especially vocals.

Speaker 2:

The duo vocals is something that makes us unique to like the. I'm a sucker for groups like that that have the guy and girl the back and forth. Um, I think it makes the song's interesting and I think we're, it's always fun when we can get a song that works like that. We're like, okay, this is a good, good vibes.

Speaker 4:

Well, speaking of tune so you guys can be playing a tune in one second if you guys wanted to go ahead and give you self's chance to plug yourselves for upcoming shows where people can find you out there in internet.

Speaker 3:

Okay. Yup. So our next show coming up guys downtown Philly at Field House on November 16th. We're going to be co headlining with Pete Francis of dispatch. Yeah, that's gonna be, that's gonna be a fun warm$10 cover. And then shortly thereafter on November 30th, back here at the underground part of round guys, brewery and Lansdale drink more rye eagles rye. Yeah. And we'll also have,

Speaker 4:

we have taco tickets too, so you can have tacos, radicals, Rye and you know, we have other beer too.

Speaker 3:

And then we're back in new work at home grown cafe on December first while you Delawareans out there. Excellent. I, yes, this is a brand new one. It's called the greater dog

Speaker 5:

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Speaker 6:

upon the beading road

Speaker 5:

and uh, one who may have traveled before

Speaker 6:

thought of,

Speaker 5:

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Speaker 6:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

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Speaker 6:

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Speaker 1:

Thank you so much. Print a Katie. Thank you guys for coming out for another great episode of the original slacker. Really appreciate it. Thanks to the show again on November 30th here at the underground apm. It's going to be$8 a ticket. Uh, we also have a combo package. Includes Tacos for 15. So looking forward to seeing you guys. I think it's 15. Thank you guys once more for listening to the original soccer podcasts and Music Mash Tun. That was another great session we had Katie Birkin, I'm sorry, Katie. Oh, Donald's. Not Katie Burke anymore, and Brenton Johnson, those guys were always fun to have in almost talking to them. They make great music. They there to pass along a little more information. They have a residency over at Bourbon and branch as well in northern liberties during December and they'll be there every on 12 slash seven slash one slash 14, 12 slash 21 to 12 slash 28 with a variety of different musicians including rob terror from, from hambone relay, a black horse motel, chop rabbit, raise spirits. Jamie Gallagher. They got some great stuff coming up. These guys are really, really good and I just love the sound. It's a very eclectic, very, very full body. It's just very fun sound. It's an incredible live experience. Everyone who sees him, at least the feedback we've gotten last time, even though we're here, we get some great feedback from the fans and from customers on them. I want to talk to you about a beer. I don't know if you guys drink beer. I drink the rocket. He'd drink beer all the time, all the time. You drink beer, right? And you know, being a brewery. We do have some tasty beer here. I believe we have a beer right now called[inaudible] and it's our October fest and boy is that a great easy drinking beer. Perfect for a nice 55 degree fall day. Today's a little rainy. Probably tomorrow I'll be a little rainy, but you know, it's a great beer for these, for these situations. It's got some excellent flavor. You have a nice Karmel mall in there, a medium bouncing bittering hop that gives off a flavor of a nice floral richness is very bright, complimentary floral flavor. It's a clean lager, deep amber in color with a frothy whitehead man. It's uh, it's my go to. I always look forward when we have oktoberfest come out. It's outright now. It's not gonna be out there for very long and you're listening to us is probably going to be ending this run soon. So definitely get to either our facility in Landsdale, our lands, our brewpub. Look at at 3:24 west main street in Lansdale or to Glenside Ale house, which is a 17 lime kiln, pike down in glenside. Thank you guys for listening. Once more. The you can find out more about the original slacker podcast on facebook.com/d original slacker. We'd love it if you can get the word out. Love every support, every piece of support we can get a, you know, I really want to make this an interactive experience with our fans, so you guys are always welcome to come down during these recordings. We do them Saturday mornings, around nine slash 11:00 AM and you can follow up more on facebook to see when the record is actually happening, if they're happening. So thanks once more guys and have a great week. Thank you.