The Quiet and Strong Podcast, Especially for Introverts
The Quiet and Strong Podcast, Especially for Introverts
Ep 261 - Authenticity and Storytelling with guest Jeremy Schreifels
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Have you ever wondered how your unique story and authentic voice can transform your personal brand or creative journey? In this episode of The Quiet And Strong Podcast, host David Hall sits down with Jeremy Schreifels, founder of Box 7 Media, to explore the power of authenticity and storytelling—especially for introverts. You'll learn how embracing your individuality is not just a strength, but the secret ingredient to making an impact through podcasts, books, and audiobooks.
Key takeaways include how introverts can thrive in performance and creative roles, practical strategies for managing energy and preparing for public speaking or podcasting, and why sharing your personal narrative is irreplaceable—because only you can tell your story the way it needs to be told. Jeremy Schreifels and David Hall also share personal experiences on family life, self-awareness, and building confidence in your voice, whether it’s in music, writing, or business.
Tune in to discover actionable tips for bringing more authenticity to your creative work, understand the true value of reflection for growth, and get inspired to share your message with the world. Listen, learn, embrace your strengths, and be strong.
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Jeremy Schreifels is the founder of Box 7 Media, where he helps authors, entrepreneurs, and creative artists find their voice, tell their story, and build their brand. With decades of experience in creative production and coaching, Jeremy guides clients to uncover their authentic message and share it with clarity and confidence. His mission: to help people transform their personal stories into powerful brands that truly connect.
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Jeremy Schreifels [00:00:00]:
I don't think that there's wins and losses. There's wins and learning opportunities, right? And so I learned something from the last one or the last 10, and now I can pick that back up. And that gift of reflection, in whatever capacity, whether you're in the need to be in the organized way of it or the empath feel sort of way of it, embrace that, use it. And then if you're speaking about something that you know about, the one thing that I tell podcast hosts who are like, well, there's 10 other podcasts that talk about introverts, so to speak. And I'm like, well, that's great, but nobody talks about introverts like David talks about introverts. Nobody does because there's only one David. That's it. There's only one.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:00:54]:
Right?
David Hall [00:01:03]:
Hello and welcome to episode 261 of the Quiet and Strong podcast, especially for introverts. I'm your host, David hall, and the creator of quietandstrong.com. this is a weekly podcast dedicated to understanding the strengths and needs of introverts along with strategies for success. Introversion is not something to fix, but to be embraced. Normally, we will air each episode on a Monday. Be sure to subscribe on your favorite platform, leave a review or a rating that would mean a lot to me and help others find the show. Tell a friend about the podcast, and help get the word out there that introversion is a beautiful thing. Jeremy Schreifles is the founder of Box7Media, where he helps authors, entrepreneurs, and creative artists find their voices, tell their story, and build their brand.
David Hall [00:01:48]:
With decades of experience in creative production and coaching, Jeremy guides clients to uncover their authentic message and share it with clarity and confidence. His mission? To help people transform their personal stories into powerful brands that truly connect. All right, well, welcome to the Quietest Strong podcast. Jeremy. Jeremy, it's so good to have you on today.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:02:09]:
David. Thank you so much for having me. I'm really looking forward to this.
David Hall [00:02:14]:
Yeah, we're going to talk about the great work that you're doing first. Just tell us more about yourself and how you got to the work that you're doing.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:02:23]:
That's such a great question. You know, I've been a touring musician and an artist for a little over 20 years, and, you know, that really started out of a. You know, honestly, it really started out of a quiet and strong place. That's so I'm putting that together right now.
David Hall [00:02:43]:
This is serious.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:02:44]:
Serendipitous is not like it wasn't a plant. I promise.
David Hall [00:02:46]:
I yeah.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:02:47]:
Yeah. At the moment of just, you know, I had a really tough time in high school, and, you know, music really became the unifying piece for me in terms of as an individual and friend group and those that I was with. And had a couple of really great mentors that helped lead me through that time and then also into the college space that really kind of helped mentor me and kept me on the straight and narrow as much as you can a college student. And then, you know, I found music kind of led me a little bit later in life and brought me into the professional realm and being able to go to be touring and recording and meeting all sorts of wonderful people. But, you know, it's interesting, as the drummer of a band, I'm sitting in the back and you think that, like, it's a pretty lonely place back there. And I never felt uncomfortable. Cause I liked. I liked having everyone out in front of me.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:03:52]:
And so as I kind of just am reflecting on that in real time, in the moment, it's like that was probably at the moment, the best way my introvert could come out and express who I was in a way that was safe and very expressive. Well, thank you for that moment, actually, by the way.
David Hall [00:04:13]:
Yeah. And, you know, we're going to talk about a couple myths, but that's one right there, that some people say that introverts don't want to be performers, whether it's a band or acting or being a comedian or speaking. And it's just not true. You know, we bring our own gifts to it. You know, I'll say, like, I love this podcasting. You know, I. I love chatting with great people like yourself. I just need to prepare for it a little bit, and I need to plan my energy.
David Hall [00:04:43]:
But besides that, I. I love it, you know, and, you know, I'm definitely not. Not another performer, but I do like speaking and I do like podcasting. And, you know, and we all definitely. It's a myth that introverts don't like to perform because they do.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:04:58]:
Yeah. I love how you said that piece about, like, I have to plan my energy.
David Hall [00:05:03]:
Yeah.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:05:03]:
And that. That's exactly what I. Those are the exact words that I use even before I'm going on stage. Like, people, they really actually don't like to be around me before I go on stage or like, before I start, before I go on, whether it's a stage to play drums, whether it's a stage for speaking, or whether it's preparing for my own podcast. Because I find myself, like, I have to get my Energy. Right. And, you know, I have to turn pretty inward to do that. And to the outside world, it comes off with a feel or a vibe, or so I'm told.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:05:41]:
My wife gives me that feedback. I guess she's good at that.
David Hall [00:05:46]:
Have you been able to articulate that to your wife and other people that are around you? Like, this is what I need to be my best.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:05:53]:
Yep, exactly that.
David Hall [00:05:56]:
Yeah, that's key. And, you know, and it's like, I love you, but I need this time, you know, and we can do something after this kind of thing.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:06:04]:
It's really interesting because if you talk about, like, the life of performing and you're doing it in a band setting, it gets to a place where, like, you might have somebody who, like, needs to exert a lot of energy before they go on stage, which is a good thing, because then it calms them down a bit when they get there, versus me coming from an opposite, I need almost nothingness and more introspective for me and reflective before I can go put out that amount of. The same amount of energy that they are. And sometimes that kind of creates a clash. And I think it was when I was able to finally articulate that. I'm like, hey, I know what you need, but here's what I need. And they're equally valuable. So we can be in the same space. That's fine.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:06:52]:
But, like, don't try to pull me over to your space, your energy, because, like, I respect that space, but respect mine over here as well.
David Hall [00:07:01]:
Yeah, that's so key. So key. And, yeah, we're all different. We all have different needs, and we just need to understand that, especially if we're all in a band together and we have different needs, you know, or. Or family relationships or whatever it is.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:07:15]:
Yeah, yeah. And, you know, that parallels so many spaces, right? Like, you say goes a family, or you're in a workplace or you're running a business, all of those kinds of things.
David Hall [00:07:24]:
It.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:07:25]:
It really does have an impact. And as I think about that impact and I think about the. How music got me to where I am today, you know, I really take that and use that in the space of helping other podcasters and helping authors with audiobooks and, you know, focusing on a little bit different side of the audio world. And I think helping those people understand who they are helps them. Helps me make them better at what they're delivering their message or performing their audiobook and doing some of those kinds of things.
David Hall [00:08:00]:
Yeah, absolutely. So when did you figure out that you were an introvert? Did you struggle with it or not?
Jeremy Schreifels [00:08:07]:
You know, I think I figured it out sometime in college, probably. And I always attributed it to, like, I was, you know, I was a performance major in college, so we just spent hours practicing in practice rooms. So I just attributed my actions to practicing a lot for my craft. And what I really did figure it out was that was my introvert really finding a space and a comfort, because then. Because I could do things differently there than I could when I would be outside of that space and when I could identify that that's who I was. Like, that was part of my being. It just made it really easier to act outside of. And it's like, well, I don't need to hide, right? That wasn't me hiding or going away.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:08:57]:
That was just me, like, managing my energy and managing my space differently. And now I speak to it. Like, even, you know, my wife and my two kids, we're all introverts.
David Hall [00:09:08]:
Okay.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:09:09]:
Which is hilarious. Yeah. And we call. We call it our cave time. Like, everybody just needs their cave time. And we're all good with that because we can come back together. As you travel as a family with two kids, you're like, we were never the parents who made our kids have to go all day long doing something. Like, if we were on a family vacation, we would, like, go do stuff for a while and come back.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:09:35]:
And like, everybody got. We called it. We literally called it cave time. Right. That's awesome. Let's just name it. Let's call it cave time. You can go in your cave and just be there and then come back out.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:09:46]:
You're a better person. We get along better. And so whether you needed to go in there and be angry or go in there and just disconnect or didn't matter, because that could be their. Each individual space. Yeah, that's cool. And do it.
David Hall [00:10:01]:
Yeah. And it's like, I think it's fortunate because, you know, you understand your wife and kids, they understand you. I mean, definitely, like, I'm married to an introvert, but we have two extroverts and one introvert. And it just. Kids come a certain way. You know, we raised them the same. But sometimes it can be a challenge for an introvert parent or an extrovert parent to parent the opposite of their personality. So.
David Hall [00:10:31]:
So, yeah, it sounds like that's pretty fortunate for you.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:10:34]:
Yeah, we don't mind.
David Hall [00:10:36]:
Yeah, that's great. It's great.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:10:39]:
It's a good match to.
David Hall [00:10:40]:
And you like to spend time together, but you also understand your. Each of you have A need for some alone time, right?
Jeremy Schreifels [00:10:46]:
Yeah. We have, the four of us have what we call a 4x4 and it's. We tend to congregate in this like literally a four by four square and. And we all four gain energy from that, from each other. So like if we're at an extended family function, it's likely you're going to find the four of us standing in a space at one point or another and what we're really doing for each other is refilling each other to go back out and be in those spaces.
David Hall [00:11:14]:
Yeah, And I love that you said that because a lot of people say the main difference, the definition of introverts is the main difference is that we recharge by being alone and extroverts charged with others. And it's just not true. Certain people in situations drain me and I need to know what those are so I can make a plan. But I absolutely get energized by spending time with my introverted wife. We love to spend time together. And there's other people where you're having the right kind of conversations. You know, it's. It's like I think we get drained as introverts when we're spending too much time in small talk, in the shallow where we want to get to the deeper things and there's other things.
David Hall [00:11:59]:
But I love that you said that because all people don't drain all of us. And, and also the other part of the definition I don't like is the main, when, when it's said that it's the main difference because we need a lot of, we need alone time for a lot of things. You, you mentioned, you know, it's a strength that you have that you can focus, you can really get into your craft and you can spend some time there. And that's a gift that introverts have. You know, you can be a great performer because, you know, like you described, you could get in there and focus and spend lots of quality time, you know, improving.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:12:34]:
Yeah, it's interesting as you know, we get put labels or it's just easy. Well, you just need to go have your alone time. I mean, if that's what you need to call it, that's okay. But I mean, I'd rather just go be with a person for a moment. I mean, we've gotten so good at a family. Like we can just go up and I can just like we anticipate it for each other. Like I can go up and just put my hand on my shoulders, on my son's shoulder and be like just for a moment and like that's enough. Right.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:13:05]:
But you can see that and you can feel that. And you know, I think that's for kids. It's tough, it's, it's going to be a tough enough world for them. My kids thankfully are gone. They're not gone. They're 19 to 22. So they're gone from our home. Yes, 20 and 22.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:13:22]:
Sorry. Yeah, but they're, you know, we have to prepare them for a world that doesn't look anything like what we've ever experienced, so.
David Hall [00:13:31]:
Yeah, true, true.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:13:32]:
Every tool they can have, I'm going to give them. Yeah.
David Hall [00:13:35]:
And you know, that's part of why I do the show is because sometimes introversion is misunderstood and it's like, it's just different, you know, it's, you got to figure out your path to success and it may look different from somebody that's, you know, that you work with or that you're interested in your family.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:13:54]:
Yeah, it's curious, I wonder, like, are there types of introverts?
David Hall [00:13:59]:
Like, so I, there's definitely lots, many aspects to our personalities. There's some good assessments out there. I focus on introversion, extroversion because it's about a 50, 50 split in the population and there's many misunderstandings. But like the Myers Briggs, you get a four letter code, for example, and of course the first one's introversion, extroversion and then the next one is intuitive or sensing, which just means, you know, for me I'm intuitive. So I, I really can see the big picture. Sometimes I just figure things out without anybody telling me. Sensing people are really good at the details and need to see the details and then there's thinking and feeling. I'm definitely an analytical person, so I'm more of a thinking person.
David Hall [00:14:50]:
People that are more feeling, you know, sometimes they're called empaths or they, they have empathic gifts which for some reason I don't have. You know, I don't know why, but it's just a different. And again, this is something where you need to understand I'm approaching this logically and this other person's approaching this from a more emotional place. It's neither is right or wrong, but if we don't understand that there can be some misunderstandings, like I might seem like, you know, a real meanie or something. And then the last one for the Myers Briggs and there's lots of other assessments, lots of other ways to get a personality, but the last one is judgment and perceiving. Judgment doesn't mean you're judgmental. It just means you like to have things organized and scheduled.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:15:32]:
Yeah.
David Hall [00:15:33]:
And perceiving you're more free flowing. And again there's, that's me. Me and my wife have the same first three letters, but that last one, I'm the more scheduled person. I want to know what's going on and she's more spontaneous and it's a good thing. Like it can be frustrating sometimes for either of us. But, but at the same time you realize that it's a. They're, they're both gifts and we're very happy. And part of that is we're not trying to change each other.
David Hall [00:16:06]:
We're just, you know, working with our, each of our gifts. So.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:16:09]:
Yeah, that's really, that's great. And I live in a similar situation. I, that we, we, we call it complimenting each other's attributes.
David Hall [00:16:18]:
Yeah.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:16:19]:
Right. Because like that's your thing and this is my thing and we'll just find a way that they can pair nicely together.
David Hall [00:16:26]:
Yeah, yeah. So anyway, it's definitely self awareness is key and really finding out these differences and you know, it's definitely a lot more beyond introversion. Extroversion. So Jeremy, tell us about the work that you're doing now.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:16:39]:
Yeah, so a lot of what I'm doing now is working with, you know, entrepreneurs and brands and organizations and authors for, to, you know, do what we're doing right now, David, which is do podcasts, recording audiobooks. That's a real passion of mine right now. And because it parallels so much what I do in the recording industry with music and songwriters and artists and then as a result of that, you know, doing some marketing and media based things and just recently launched a new content creator support. And what do I mean by that? Is offering an actual true royalty free music and tracks for folks to use for content creation. So they're not worrying about getting, you know, the red X on YouTube. Yeah, all of those kinds of things.
David Hall [00:17:32]:
Yeah. Right.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:17:34]:
I just, that's a headache for creators and even though I'm a musician and want all of those royalties, it's not what most people think it actually is. So I would rather just support the creators and give them access to something.
David Hall [00:17:48]:
Yeah, that's cool. Because yeah, you gotta, otherwise you have to own it and you could get in trouble for using stuff that's not yours.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:17:57]:
Yes. Yeah, and I, you know, and I saw that because my clients shared that they were struggling with that and I'm like, well, I'm a musician and I have a library of music and I like creating it. So why don't I just create this? It works for whatever you want. It can work for podcast intros and outros and any video content you want to make or corporate videos, all of that stuff. And you're not paying a licensing fee and you're not paying. You just pay a. It's just a one time. You buy the track, it's yours.
David Hall [00:18:28]:
Cool.
David Hall [00:18:29]:
That's very cool.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:18:30]:
Yeah.
David Hall [00:18:32]:
Also, you're an author. Tell us about the books that you've written. Sure.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:18:36]:
So the first book I wrote was called Road to 99, and it's an entrepreneur slash personal development journey through the eyes of a music producer and songwriter. And the 99 refers to the journey of writing 99 songs with a couple of my writing partners. So, you know, of course we talk about some technical things and creation pieces in the songwriting world, but really I did it so that it works for all readers and so that yes, there's some musical things in there, but it doesn't get so technical that anyone couldn't read it and get the idea behind the message and the themes. Co authored a book that's. It's like a volume book of authors and it's called like the Greatest Lessons I Learned as an Entrepreneur. And so that was a fun collaboration book and one of those, like you get to write one chapter out of the whole book. So that was kind of a fun, unique process. And you know, there's some good authors in that book.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:19:36]:
So it was kind of fun. It was one of those, like, I'm going to try this and see how it goes. And I enjoyed it. And I haven't done another one of those since, but that's okay. And then this past year I just released a business journal that's like a 365 day daily journal that's just got something a reflective question or thought or statement and then some lines. You know, it's very traditional. I'm a journaler and I like to write and I like to be reflective and I tried to make the prompts that, you know, would help someone who's building a business help to focus throughout the year. So that's been fun and I've gotten a lot of really great feedback from that as well.
David Hall [00:20:19]:
Yeah. You're also a fellow podcaster. Your podcast is Rhythm of the Road. Yes, I've enjoyed a couple episodes so far and thank you. And I also just know that your world is really about audio and the audio quality and storytelling. So tell us about your podcast. And what kind of topics do you talk about? Sure.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:20:45]:
So I think the best part about my podcast is I literally started the Rhythm of the Road podcast as a means to break down my fear of being on video. So the first 20 episodes were dedicated to me only, recording the episodes on video and not even releasing them on audio. They went out on YouTube only. And then after that, I back released all the audio and then have been doing those ever since. And as of this recording, I just released episode 117 and also weekly episode. So I've been at this for a little while and I'm just having a lot of fun. And really it's about. I do a couple of mini series.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:21:27]:
I do a mini series called Power of Podcasting where I talk about podcasting. How do you do it? What are some tips and tricks? And then I also have a mini series called Audiobook Adventures, which is similar. It's like education on those that are interested in audiobooks. And then I fill in with some guests who are just interesting to me or have an interesting story, and then the rest of them are really entrepreneur or personal development driven. Like, many times, it's what's bubbling up for me. And then I talk about that. Because the feedback I've gotten from my podcast has mostly been, you seem to always talk about something that I needed to hear about, and I'm like, well, I'm just talking about something I needed to talk about. Or I was in a conversation with a client, or I was in a conversation with a friend and it prompted this.
David Hall [00:22:20]:
Yeah, that's so great. Those kinds of comments are so great to hear. You know that you. You're making impact and, you know, that can be the case for people that are listening. So tell us about, you know, for the listeners, why podcasting can be such a great marketing tool.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:22:41]:
This is like my number one thing, why it's so powerful is you can interview whoever you want, right? And what that allows you to do is two things. Regardless if you interview or not, you're gonna. You can build know like and trust factor with a. As a brand or as an authority in your. In your field. The second one is you can interview clients that you want to work with and you're giving them value first, right? If you take sales 101, right? Like, what's in it for them? And immediately what's in it for them is they get access to your audience and you get to talk. They get to talk about themselves or their company or their brand, and then they get to have a conversation with you. Which builds an immediate know, like and trust factor.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:23:30]:
And as a host, you can help to integrate some pieces in there that might spark some ideas of maybe that they would want to work with you down the road. And I think it's so brilliant to be able to do that. And it's easy because you're inviting them to bring them value and give them something back right away.
David Hall [00:23:48]:
Yeah. So you talked about with you, you were overcoming some anxiety by appearing on video. What do you say to the introvert, especially that is anxious about being a podcast guest or host?
Jeremy Schreifels [00:24:04]:
Yeah. So what I always recommend to clients, but also that what I've used myself is I'll put something in front of me that I. That is comfortable. So I could put a picture of my wife, I could put a picture of my kids. I could hold on to something. I've had clients use fidgets before and they have them in their hands. I just. They have to be quiet ones.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:24:30]:
Right. Because we got good audio going on. We need.
David Hall [00:24:32]:
Yeah, right.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:24:33]:
Quiet. And so, you know, and the other piece is, what makes podcasting the most comfortable is talking about something you actually like. So many people like, well, I want to start a podcast, and I'm a business owner and I want to talk about ABC business. I'm like, well, do you like talking about that a lot? Well, not really, but that's what I do. I'm like, then pick a different topic. Right. I mean, I don't. I have some miniseries that talk about audio things and things that I do with box 7 media, but I don't.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:25:08]:
The whole podcast isn't around that. I'm like, it's hard to talk about things I want to talk about. Sometimes I talk about all of the dumb things that I did in the last three months that I learned from. Yeah, right. Who can't resonate with that?
David Hall [00:25:23]:
Right. Right. I think you said something very key, and this is. This could be applied to podcast hosting or guesting public speaking presentations. You have an expertise, you know, tap into your expertise that you really enjoy talking about and just know that you do have something valuable to share and that you can find good ways like podcasting or other. Other platforms where you can share your message and what you want to talk about.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:25:54]:
Yeah. You know, and the number one obstacle that comes into podcast hosting and guesting is fear. Right. It's fear. And fear only is. It's a temporary feeling. And once you can move past or through that, it. You can.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:26:12]:
It doesn't matter. And so sit in it for a moment and have that and that's okay. And then you. Then you can do it. And it does take practice. Like, and I tell new podcast hosts, I'm like, the first episodes are supposed to be awful. They're not supposed to be good. The first time you spelled your name, it wasn't good, but you practiced, and it got better.
David Hall [00:26:38]:
So.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:26:38]:
And I said. And they're like, well, I want to take down all those old episodes. I'm like, don't people want to know that you can grow? People want to know that you're consistent and that you can learn along the way?
David Hall [00:26:51]:
Yeah. And I always think that, too, because I would like to think, you know, what are we on, like, 257 this week?
Jeremy Schreifels [00:26:58]:
Yeah.
David Hall [00:26:58]:
I would like to think that number one was great, you know, but I have definitely gotten so much better, More comfortable, you know, better at asking questions, all of that. And it just. You gotta start. You gotta start with a podcast. Being a guest or you gotta start. Yeah, I definitely don't want people to listen to the first one where I was a guest, you know, but you gotta start somewhere. Whether it's, you know, volunteering to give a presentation or a speech or whatever, you gotta start. And just, you know, we've already talked about that.
David Hall [00:27:32]:
Part of our gifts as introverts is being reflective. So you. You go on a podcast, give a speech, and afterwards you can think. And I always start with the positive. I always start with, what did I do well there? And then, you know, what would I do different next time? But we're really good at. I think, again, everybody has different gifts. You know, we're not all the same. But I think that that's an introvert gift that all introverts have is.
David Hall [00:27:56]:
Is the gift of reflection.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:27:59]:
Yeah. And, you know, I. I literally preach that all the time to everyone, not just other introverts.
David Hall [00:28:05]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:28:06]:
And I'm like, just think about it for a minute. And, you know, and you did probably do some things really well, and of course, you did some things that you'll do better next time. Right. I don't. I don't think that there's wins and losses. There's wins and learning opportunities. Right. And so I learned something from the last one or the last 10, and now I can pick that back up.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:28:28]:
And that gift of reflection, in whatever capacity, whether you're in the need to be in the organized way of it or the empath feel sort of way of it, embrace that, use it. And then if you're speaking about something that you know about, the one thing that I tell podcast hosts who are like, well, there's 10 other podcasts that talk about introverts, so to speak. And I'm like, well, that's great. But nobody talks about introverts like David talks about introverts. Nobody does because there's only one David. That's it. There's only one. Right, yeah, good point.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:29:05]:
So nobody talks about the rhythm of the road like I do. Right. I'm the only one that is the host of that show. Right. And so I hear that. Right. And that creeps into kind of like that imposter syndrome space, which is an offshoot of fear. And so I'm just like, nobody tells your story like you tell it.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:29:24]:
And that's the same thing I tell aud authors for audiobooks who don't want to read their own books. I'm like, no one's going to tell that story like you do. Right. So in podcasting, it's the same. Nobody talks about introverts like David Hall. Nobody does.
David Hall [00:29:40]:
Yeah, thank you. That's true.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:29:42]:
You can put that as a mic drop. Yeah, yeah, your promo.
David Hall [00:29:47]:
And the other thing, too. You know, I've been doing this just past five years, and people come and go. There's introvert podcasts that were around when I started that aren't around anymore. And so, you know, keep going with your unique message and keep going and just don't worry about the other people.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:30:06]:
Yeah. Because you're talking about the things you want to talk about. You're talking to the folks that you want to talk to. Right. We could have gone. We could have done our, like, pre recording interview call, and you could have been like, jeremy, that's not really a great fit. Yeah, you could have said that. And I would have been okay with it, too.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:30:24]:
By the way, full disclosure, because it's your podcast, it's your audience, and I want to honor that space.
David Hall [00:30:31]:
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm glad I didn't say that. Didn't say. No.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:30:35]:
I'm glad I made the cut.
David Hall [00:30:36]:
Yeah. You. You just mentioned audiobooks. And you know what? I am more of a listener than a reader, and I do like to hear the author's voice. Why? Why is that? Why do we enjoy hearing the authors themselves?
Jeremy Schreifels [00:30:50]:
There's an authenticity in the author's voice when they're reading their own words that just doesn't get captured when there's a narrator. And I know because I've narrated my own book and I've narrated books for others, and no matter how good I am and how much I Know, I can work my brain and work my magic from my voice and in the box with all of the audio tools I have, it's never as good. And. And I think, really, it comes to that statement of, nobody tells their story like you do. And, you know, when I'm. Most of the authors I work with are nonfiction, and they're, you know, personal development books, or they're an expert in their field, or they're talking about their brand. So I'm like, nobody is going to tell it like you do. And I encourage authors to go outside of the lines and add things in that aren't in the print book so that the audio listener gets something special.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:31:51]:
And as a result, they relax. They're more calm and. Or more excited, depending on if they're the extrovert. I've had those readers, too. It comes out and it. And it. And it's just different because the microphone never lies.
David Hall [00:32:07]:
Yeah. And to add some things in there on the fly, you couldn't do that if you're not the author.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:32:15]:
Right. You have no context on how that was built or talked about. And I usually encourage authors to add reflective moments on the end of each chapter. Shocking as an introvert.
David Hall [00:32:26]:
Right.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:32:26]:
That I would want them to reflect.
David Hall [00:32:27]:
On what they just read and just. Overall, why should authors do audiobooks?
Jeremy Schreifels [00:32:35]:
The biggest one is you're missing, like, 75% of the population.
David Hall [00:32:40]:
I didn't know it was that high. I knew it's high.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:32:43]:
Like, I might even be being conservative. David. To be real.
David Hall [00:32:46]:
Okay.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:32:47]:
Because we're on video. So you can see behind me, this bookshelf. I actually have read all of those books. Okay. But I am the anomaly. Like, I am not the norm. Most people. If you're an author, most people will buy your book.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:33:01]:
And I can also tell you most people are not going to read it, but I can tell you if they download your audiobook, they are going to listen to it, especially if it's your voice.
David Hall [00:33:11]:
Yeah. Yeah.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:33:13]:
And what about all of those people who have ADHD and can't handle reading? What about all those folks? Well, they don't have the gift of sight and they can't see. How do they gather your information? Is your story not relevant to that person? And so, like, you start to think about those pieces, and I'm like, you're missing an entire audience.
David Hall [00:33:37]:
Yeah. So I know you're really big on. All of this is about telling a story. So how does storytelling come in? Whether it's a book, audiobook, a podcast. How do we. How do we become good storytellers, tell lots of stories.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:33:58]:
And, you know, and I think the. I mean, we all know our own story, and I think how we become good storytellers is thinking about how we tell ours. You know, we have. We experienced this in the first three minutes of this conversation today on your episode of I Had a Moment. And I've done dozens of podcasts and tons of interviews and all these things, and I've never thought about the fact that that was my quiet strength when I was in high school. Right. And that being an introvert was that. Like, I'd never named that.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:34:33]:
And I'm like, I'm almost 50 years old. I'm also not ashamed to say that, but I just. I didn't even. So you don't know. So you got to just keep telling your story and keep letting it come out, and then it gets you better at telling your story of your brand or telling the story of your business or telling the story of your life, really.
David Hall [00:34:55]:
So as far as just actual stories, you know, little stories, do you have a method for collecting them and saving them for different purposes?
Jeremy Schreifels [00:35:05]:
I do. I use journaling.
David Hall [00:35:07]:
Okay.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:35:08]:
Yeah, I use journaling whether it's on my phone, on an app, or. I am still old school. I still, like. I actually have, you know, journals sitting here showing David on the screen.
David Hall [00:35:19]:
Okay.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:35:20]:
So I do actually use physical pen and paper still. I have a new tool that I've been using for a couple years called the Remarkable. That way I can take it everywhere, and then I don't waste paper. So I feel like I'm being a little bit good to the environment. And so, yeah, that's how I record stories that way.
David Hall [00:35:39]:
Yeah, our brains, I definitely, I think on pen and paper, you know, and then I'll transfer that information, you know, some into my laptop or whatever. But I think our brains work that way sometimes better.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:35:53]:
Yeah, I just. I'm. I'm still tactile in that meat in that way. In fact, when I wrote my book, my. My publisher said, jeremy, please type on the. On the page. Do not keep just writing, because I need to be able to edit it better. I'm like, okay, I'll use the computer.
David Hall [00:36:12]:
So with all your podcasting experience, what. What do you see makes an impactful podcast versus one that might be more forgettable?
Jeremy Schreifels [00:36:21]:
I think the most impactful ones are the ones that are the most authentic. Sometimes folks get really caught up in production, and a lot of what I call fluff, and they try to be perfect. People don't want perfect they want real and if you want it to be so polished, then you're looking at it the wrong way. And, and that's what I believe to be true. And you know, other, like, of course others have other opinions and they also might have unlimited budgets, but I don't want to stop somebody from telling their story and sharing with others because of an obstacle like that.
David Hall [00:37:05]:
Yeah, definitely. And then how would you coach someone to really engage as a podcast guest or host? Engage the audience?
Jeremy Schreifels [00:37:15]:
You know, I think that parallels it is being real and being authentic. Invite them in, ask them, but and don't just ask them, tell them like so there's often times I'll say, hey, go do this or did you think about this? But don't make it so challenging that it seems un. Unattainable. Like one of my favorite things to ask is just share this with one person. It had to impacted you in a certain way. Just share with one person. That's it. Like, I'm not asking for five or ten or a whole bunch of likes or none of that kind of stuff.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:37:52]:
Right. Because everybody's asking for that stuff. I'm like, just share it with one person. And if you have someone you don't like, share with them because that would just be a funny joke. Yeah, you know. Yeah, that's me being real that, you know, that's part of that authentic piece. And so capturing them in that way, I feel like holds them longer and keeps them coming back. Yeah.
David Hall [00:38:20]:
So there you heard it. Share it with one person. Jeremy said.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:38:24]:
In case of this podcast, please share with five folks and believe David, a five star rating on Apple itunes.
David Hall [00:38:31]:
Yeah, that would be awesome. Jeremy, this has been such a great conversation. Is there anything else that you want to talk about today?
Jeremy Schreifels [00:38:38]:
You know, we've talked about a lot, David, and I really appreciate the conversation and I mean people can feel free to reach out to me in any way that they want that they feel comfortable. And I'm always, I always love these types of conversations. Our conversation has made me more curious about what it means or doesn't mean to be an introvert. So thank you for building some curiosity.
David Hall [00:39:04]:
Yeah, absolutely. Where can people get a hold of you? Sure.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:39:08]:
The easiest way, box7media.com.
David Hall [00:39:11]:
Okay.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:39:11]:
Whether you want to use the number or the letters, it's going to get you to the same spot. Otherwise you can find me at Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, @Jeremy Schreifles. You will find me there.
David Hall [00:39:23]:
Sounds great. Thanks again, Jeremy.
Jeremy Schreifels [00:39:26]:
Thank you, David.
David Hall [00:39:28]:
Thank you so much for joining me. I appreciate you. I hope you take the time to explore other episodes and learn from other amazing guests. Remember, if you're interested in getting to know yourself better, there is now a free type finder personality Assessment on the Quiet and Strong website. This free assessment will give you a brief report including the four letter Myers Briggs Code. I'll add a link in the show notes and I'd love to connect with you. Reach out to davidandstrong.com or check out the quietandstrong.com website which includes blog posts and links to social media for Quiet and Strong and and much more. Send me topics or guests you would like to see on the show.
David Hall [00:40:07]:
So many great things about being an introvert and so we need those to be understood. Get to know your introverted strengths and needs and be strong.