Ep 269 - The Power of Thoughtful Leadership with guest Chris March

Have you ever wondered how introverted leaders create meaningful impact without being the loudest voice in the room? In this episode, host David Hall sits down with executive coach and leadership expert Chris March to explore how introverts harness their strengths for effective leadership and decision-making.

Listeners will discover practical strategies for embracing introversion, including the value of preparation, the importance of setting healthy boundaries, and how being reflective leads to clarity and confidence. Key takeaways include recognizing introversion as a superpower, navigating team dynamics among introverts and extroverts, and building a reputation for thoughtful decision-making.

If you’re an introvert or a leader seeking to maximize your impact, this conversation will empower you to lead authentically, structure your day for success, and avoid burnout. Tune in to redefine what strong leadership means—embrace your strengths, share your voice, and be strong.

Episode Link: QuietandStrong.com/269

Chris March helps founders and senior leaders make faster, clearer decisions that improve performance and drive measurable growth. He is a business and executive coach, international speaker, and trainer with more than 20 years of leadership experience across the UK, Canada, and Australia.

With clients across multiple continents and insights shared with an audience of more than 30,000 LinkedIn followers, Chris is known for helping leaders cut through noise, align their teams, and drive outcomes that show up in the business.

Connect with Chris: Instagram | LinkedIn | Website

Transcript

Chris March [00:00:00]:
And when an introvert speaks it holds a lot of weight and volume and naturally I find through if I'm given that space, it's allowed me to be effective. And I think that's where effective leadership comes from. It comes from a thoughtful lens versus an an extrovert. I'm not saying it's a it's a bad thing. It's more can be velocity of communication versus direct outcome through thought thoughtfulness.

David Hall [00:00:36]:
Hello and welcome to episode 269 of the Quiet and Strong podcast, especially for introverts. I'm your host David hall and the creator of Quiet and strong dot com. This is a weekly podcast dedicated to understanding the strengths and needs of introverts along with strategies for success. Introversion is not something to fix, but to be embraced. Normally we'll air each episode on a Monday. Be sure to subscribe on your favorite platform, leave a review or rating that would mean a lot to me and help others find the show. Tell a friend about the podcast and help get the word out there that introversion is a beautiful thing. Chris March helps founders and senior leaders make faster, clearer decisions that improve performance and drive measurable growth.

David Hall [00:01:18]:
He is a business and executive coach, international speaker, and trainer with more than 20 years of leadership experience across the UK, Canada and Australia. A former COO, Chris led a major operational turnaround and helped execute a USA expansion strategy. Chris has coached hundreds of founders, business owners and leadership teams globally to sharpen clarity, confidence and execution with clients across multiple continents and insights shared with audiences of more than 30,000 LinkedIn followers. Chris is known for helping leaders cut through noise, align their teams, and drive outcomes that show up in the business. All right, well, welcome to the Quiet and Strong podcast, Chris. Chris, it's so good to have you on today.

Chris March [00:02:07]:
Thank you so much for having me on. I'm excited for this conversation.

David Hall [00:02:10]:
Yeah, and we're going to get into the work you do first. Just tell us a little bit about yourself and your journey to the work you do.

Chris March [00:02:18]:
So leadership is something that I've always felt extremely passionate about. From a young age, I wanted to be a professional basketball player. That dream didn't work out and I used that discipline and modeling of following basketball players growing up and I took that mindset into the workplace and was fortunate enough to work with a lot of great leaders during that time. And then I saw the positive effect that leadership had on people. And then through the pandemic, I was in a senior leadership role and due to a career pivot, I thought at that time I wanted to align at something which was going to be more mission and purpose valued. So that's where I landed on executive coaching that over the last four years has continued to grow and morph into different parts of executive coaching where I've worked one on one group coaching, life coaching. Now I'm mostly working with organizations and founders to helping them scale and operationalize their businesses.

David Hall [00:03:26]:
Very cool. We're going to get more into that. But first, of course, you're on the Quiet and Strong podcast, so. And you are a fellow introvert. Tell us about that. When did you figure that out?

Chris March [00:03:34]:
I have distinct memories at a very young age of being asked to present in school, as most of your listeners probably remember. And I remember getting up there and not being able to communicate at all. I just couldn't do it in plain sight. I just couldn't do it and was completely uncomfortable and I didn't really know what it meant at that time. I don't think there was a lot of communication. This was back in early 90s, so I didn't really know what that was and I didn't really know what introversion was at that point. But then throughout my own growth and development, I had more of an understanding and sought answers of what that meant. And then I quickly learned that there's two types.

Chris March [00:04:22]:
There's an introvert and an extrovert. I mostly lean towards an introvert because my natural instinct is to scan data and sit back before speaking. So that was my experience with it and I naturally have continually evolved through that understanding.

David Hall [00:04:40]:
Yeah, that's great. And yeah, when I didn't understand introversion, definitely starting from a young age like yourself, I, I had trouble with public speaking and I thought something was wrong with me. It's like, why can't.

Chris March [00:04:52]:
Yeah.

David Hall [00:04:52]:
Why is this person so comfortable in.

Chris March [00:04:54]:
Yeah.

David Hall [00:04:55]:
Present, presenting or why is this person so comfortable making conversations and I'm not. But again, that's the whole point of the show. It's like you got to get to know your personality that, you know, we're deep thinkers. It's a good thing and we just have to learn how to harness that. And success might look different for an introvert versus an extrovert. There might be a different path.

Chris March [00:05:14]:
Yeah. So resonate with that. And I think in society we have a. A certain expectation of what life should look like. And I think once you become congruent in understanding who you are, that's when you can operate at the highest level.

David Hall [00:05:28]:
Yeah, for sure. Hey, Chris, what would you say is a strength you have because you're an introvert.

Chris March [00:05:32]:
The ability to recognize patterns, the ability to see when people are naturally hesitating and causing them to over explain or not being able to execute on certain things. And for me, I've always found through my own experience and seeing other effective introverts. Introverts hold the room and when an introvert speaks it holds a lot of weight and volume and naturally I find through if I'm given that space it's allowed me to be effective. And I think that's where effective leadership comes from. It comes from a thoughtful lens versus an extrovert. I'm not saying it's a, it's a bad thing. It's more can be velocity of communication versus direct outcome through thoughtfulness.

David Hall [00:06:28]:
Yeah. And so we may be the most confident, even outspoken introvert. We're likely still not going to say as many words because we're, we're taking it all in, sharing what we think is most important. And what you're saying is we can build that reputation, especially as leaders or that we have important things to say. You know, just give us a chance to do that. And I've heard that from a lot of guests and, and myself included. It's like, you know what, David might not be saying a lot but pay attention when he does because he's, he's thinking about all this and he's going to have some good ideas. So we can build that reputation and not be counted out because we're may not be saying as many words.

Chris March [00:07:12]:
No. And I think typically introverts speak in a lot of shorter sentences because we're processing information differently and we're not going to have long winded answers because it's more thoughtful in a lot of different ways. And I think to your point David, it's around consistency and around preparation. With an introvert we cannot typically turn up to a meeting if we're not well prepared. We need to be in the reps. We can't just turn up there and expect to be congruent with ourselves. We need to have clear understanding of what is required of us to feel that we have the right information to perform in our best.

David Hall [00:07:52]:
Yeah, I think preparation is one of the big keys to our success. What have you learned about that as an introvert? How do you prepare for things? Why is this preparation for you?

Chris March [00:08:02]:
Preparation is key. You've got to have preparation to feel prepared. Consistency is important as an introvert as well. To be put in a situation where you're going to naturally feel comfortable and nothing we're looking for Stability in a lot of different ways. Right. We're looking for stability, and we're looking for patterns which we can naturally pick up, and we're looking for the. For those same patterns ourselves to feel comfortable. And once we feel comfortable in a scenario, that's where we can thrive.

Chris March [00:08:36]:
I talk about that example as a kid. Once we're more congruent in understanding how we show up and how we speak, such as today, that makes us to be more effective for sure.

David Hall [00:08:50]:
What would you say? Or we bust myths on this show. So what's an introvert myth that you want to bust today?

Chris March [00:08:57]:
You don't need to be the loudest leader to be the most effective. I think when we think about leadership, we think of naturally, someone who's the most flamboyant or charismatic, who can shape the room. You can feel the energy when someone comes into the room. But to your point earlier, David, you don't need to be flamboyant or the loudest person who controls the room. You can be effective through your introversion. You can be thoughtful. You can help guide people through their decisions to make people become more effective in. In what you're doing.

Chris March [00:09:37]:
Leadership is about evoking change. And naturally, as. As an introvert, you can help people get through change by recognizing those patterns and helping people move from point A to point B. Yeah.

David Hall [00:09:50]:
So this comes up a lot on the show. You know, the extroverted, large and in charge leader. A lot of times, even. Even introverts think that's how it's supposed to be. But I wanted to get your thoughts on this. My experience is most people don't want that. Most people want the more thoughtful leader that we're describing.

Chris March [00:10:11]:
I think it depends. If you ask an extrovert, they may give you an extroverted answer. I think an introvert, you're going to get that as well. I think it's important to be congruent with the people that you're fortunate to lead. That's. And you have to be able to adapt to the people that you're fortunate enough to lead. If you turn up and deliver the same leadership style to every single person thinking that they require the same thing, you're not going to get the best result. So it's about being interchangeable in your approach.

Chris March [00:10:42]:
And being effective as a leader requires you to be congruent in the person that you're speaking to and the room that you're speaking to at scale, wherever possible.

David Hall [00:10:51]:
Yeah. So most of our teams are probably made up of introverts and Extroverts. What do you say to leaders? How do you, how do you, you were just describing that. How do you navigate the different needs and styles?

Chris March [00:11:07]:
It's, it's about understanding that you can't deliver the one size fits all approach. As I said, you can't turn up and expect to be the same person every single day and deliver the same results to people. So how are you turning up to each person based on the conversation and their needs and meeting people with what they want and need, Being congruent with that and understanding who you are as a, as an introvert firstly and being consistent in that approach. I think most importantly, once you congruent in understanding when you're most effective and I think the biggest thing people miss is the energy that you have as an introvert. Typically we're going to be the most productive before, let's say 12 or 1pm so ensuring that you stack most of your meetings before that time to turn up and deliver the most effective conversations before that time. And you should know that in, typically in business or in life, there's typically energy people who are going to give you energy or depleters who are going to zap your energy. So when you're having those type of conversations within reason, how do you align your day with, with those type of conversations?

David Hall [00:12:20]:
Yeah, I think that's instructions. Yeah, key pieces. I regularly review my calendar and you know, where am I going to need to recharge? You know, maybe do some quiet focused work or something. You know what? Either, because I mean sometimes even things that we enjoy can be draining and we need a break afterward. You know, like with the podcast, I typically don't do it or I, I don't have anything scheduled the hour before or hour after. You know, just in case I, I need some space. So, you know, it's definitely helpful to look ahead and know yourself. You know, what, what do I need to do to maintain my energy, especially as an introvert?

Chris March [00:13:00]:
And I think that to your point, is one of the biggest hacks that people live life reactively versus proactively, meaning that you turn up when you don't really have a plan. You're operating day to day, you come in, you check your emails from a professional perspective and you're reacting throughout the day and you're getting micro wins responding to emails. Yet there's no structure to your day and your energy by the end of the day. If you're getting into that same pattern every single day of just doing and turning up versus structuring out your day and living through your, your calendar. And by design, instead of default, you're going to see a big shift in how you turn up and how you're feeling at the end of the day.

David Hall [00:13:45]:
Yeah. Talk more about that, about structuring to be proactive instead of reactive. Because I think a lot of us fall into that trap where we are reacting to what's coming at us.

Chris March [00:13:54]:
Yeah, I see this pattern all the time with business owners that I work with. And one of the fundamental things that I automatically ask is give me a look at your calendar and I can tell right away of where their energy and time is being spent. So if I ask you to pull up your calendar and it's just there's no structure to it besides a few meetings here and there, how are you turning up to your day? You're turning up with reactivity. You're not planning out your day. There's no structure in that. So what are you really focusing on that is going to move the needle the most this week? What are the most important tasks, David, that only you can do in your specific roles? Now you being pulled into low leverage tasks every single day. That is taking away from what your roles and responsibility look like. A lot of people live in that reactive space.

David Hall [00:14:50]:
Yeah. So another key I think is what you're saying about what is your most important task or tasks. How do you manage that, Chris?

Chris March [00:15:00]:
Understanding what it is only you can do, then what it is the one thing that you do. So if you're a CEO, what's the most important task that you need to be focusing on is having conversations about the website or making certain low level changes or reacting to your inbox. I'm going to say no, that is not the best use of your time. What is the highest leverage you can be doing from a day to day for you as a CEO or the Director of Sales or whatever your specific role is, really take a step back. And a good exercise to support that, David, is to understand where you're spending most of your time and can almost guarantee 90% of your listeners if you do this exercise, I can guarantee you can get it a minimum of one to five hours back just by looking at how you're allocating and resourcing your own time.

David Hall [00:15:56]:
Yeah, that's great. Hey Chris, you call yourself, I think I saw this on LinkedIn. Executive decision advisor. What does that mean?

Chris March [00:16:03]:
An Executive Decision Advisor is someone who helps people make decisions. Naturally we have hesitations to make decisions and as an executive and I work with a lot of executives and leadership Teams, there's a lot of operational drag. And what does operational drag mean is that people hesitate to make decisions. We know we need to raise prices or we know we need to hire a senior people. A senior hire. This can hesitation in this space can cost the business thousands or millions of dollars depending on the people that I'm working with. So I help support a better operating system for them to make effective, effective decisions and not allow those operational drags happen from a day to day. So we're not going to talk about something.

Chris March [00:16:57]:
A lot of my conversations around is what decisions are we going to be making today? In the simplest form.

David Hall [00:17:03]:
Yeah. And along those lines you talk about the difference between scaling and managing. What's, what is the difference?

Chris March [00:17:10]:
The managing is managing the operational daily tasks, making sure you're running the day to day effectively. Right. When you think about a manager, that's your responsibility. Scaling is ensuring that you have the structure in place. So everything is not managing through you. A lot of the people that I work with, they've built businesses through the grit and determination of the founder. And then the business becomes key person dependent and the business can only scale due to that person's personal bandwidth.

David Hall [00:17:43]:
Right, Right.

Chris March [00:17:44]:
Scaling is ensuring that you have the structure in place to support that and your role is no longer key dependent. And that structure allows you to scale beyond just that singular person and the structure in place that supports your role and also multiple roles for the business to scale large.

David Hall [00:18:06]:
Yeah. So you said strategy is not the constraint, the decision system is. Tell us about that.

Chris March [00:18:16]:
So a lot of businesses don't lack strategy. They like, they don't have the execution that sits behind that. What I mean by that is strategies is just a fancy word for saying priorities. Right. So what is strategically the right priorities that we need to follow focus on and typically from a business perspective, you need to focus on what is the number one constraint that would unlock the biggest growth in business right now. And unlocking that and moving that is what are the key things that I focus on each month. So we want to move from constraint to constraint quarterly to help support unlock that biggest time or growth within each of those decisions.

David Hall [00:19:03]:
Definitely. So you, you're in Australia now, you're from Australia originally, right?

Chris March [00:19:09]:
Correct. I spent 16 years in, in Canada, two years in the UK.

David Hall [00:19:13]:
Yeah. And you've traveled around quite a bit. What have you learned about leadership? You know, being in different places, different countries. Leadership is

Chris March [00:19:23]:
such a broad term when you hear leadership and I think leadership has been over complicated in a lot of different ways. Well when people talk about leadership, we're looking for a secret sauce. I have a lot of people that I work with asking me, what's the key to being effective leader? What. What do I need to do? And I think it's. It's important to distill it down in the most simplest form. Leadership is a verb. Leadership is action. Leadership is accessible to every single person.

Chris March [00:19:56]:
Leadership is. It doesn't require a title. It's available in the community. You're. You're a leader to your kids, David. You're a leader through this podcast. And the most important thing is for people just to understand it's a responsibility for people to move forward. And you learn it through doing and helping people to move from point A to point B.

Chris March [00:20:21]:
And I think that's where we've got it complicated. There's many different examples of. Of leadership in the world right now. And at the simplest form, it's a right and responsibility to help people move forward.

David Hall [00:20:35]:
Yeah. What do you say to the introverted leader? What if they're lacking confidence? How. How can they gain that?

Chris March [00:20:43]:
We need to see yourself doing the hard things. We need evidence of that. So if you consistently see yourself doing hard things, you'll naturally get confidence that you're doing that you can do it. So what you need to do is put yourself in those hard situations by bit. So for an example, if you wanted to become a better speaker, let's say, for example, first you want to. You can speak in front of your friends and family, and then you can naturally upsize the audience from there. So naturally, show yourself proof and evidence that you can do these things. And then once you see yourself doing it time and time again, similar to going to the gym, then you just build that muscle.

Chris March [00:21:33]:
You just build that muscle time and time again. And naturally, those reps become muscle memory. And all of a sudden, you're on the biggest stage, talking in front of thousands of people, and you feel confident because you've done it and you remember it.

David Hall [00:21:46]:
Yeah, absolutely. And I always say, too, you got to start just like you're saying, start small.

Chris March [00:21:52]:
Yeah.

David Hall [00:21:52]:
You know, I, I'm. I'm on year five for this podcast, and I love it. You know, it's. It's a lot of fun for me. Yeah, I, I haven't gone back and listened to episode one or two, but I bet they're not as good.

Chris March [00:22:04]:
Oh, 100.

David Hall [00:22:06]:
I know I'm more. Yeah, I know I'm more comfortable as a host, and it's just been the practice and it.

Chris March [00:22:12]:
But you Gotta, you gotta start 100%, David. I've been sharing. One of the big things for me over the last couple of years was to start sharing my thoughts on LinkedIn. Two and a half years ago, start the end of 2024, I decided to share what I've learned as a leader, as a human. And that was scary. And I look back at my content now and it's, it's almost, I can't even look at it. I've. I've deleted some of them, David.

Chris March [00:22:39]:
Full transparency. Yeah, I've deleted some of them. But I'm a much better writer than I am now and I feel comfortable sharing feedback and sharing my thoughts on there consistently. So it's proof that I can do it.

David Hall [00:22:54]:
Yeah. Whether it's speaking, presenting, posting, writing, you just got to start and we're gonna get better. And one thing I always say is like we're not all the same as introverts, but I think one thing we share is we're all reflective. We can learn, learn from our experiences and just, just keep getting better by reflecting on how we did, how, you know, what might be different next time. All that good stuff.

Chris March [00:23:21]:
Yeah. And to add to that point, David, you've reminded me of part of my own growth and I think I wanted to share with everyone. That's definitely helped me as an introvert is, is reflection, is. I've done a lot of that. Journaling has been a key driver for me. I started journaling about four or five years ago and for me as an introvert, that has allowed me to really become more self aware and recognize the patterns that keep coming up personally and professionally and help me overcome them slowly. So if you haven't started that practice, I would highly recommend it. And a lot of times people associate journaling with long winded journaling.

Chris March [00:24:00]:
It doesn't need to be. There's a lot of effective tools digitally or the old school book. Just start simple, do it. There's, there's a huge amount of opportunity in that space for you.

David Hall [00:24:14]:
Yeah. And it's, it's articulating our thoughts, it just makes it more clear. It, it gives us clarity and it is a good practice. I, I am not very good at that, but it's. When I do, it's, it's a good thing.

Chris March [00:24:29]:
Yeah. It's a great exercise. I've enjoyed, I've enjoyed it. I've moved it to digital now myself. It's a weekly practice. I review weekly alignment with my goals for this year. So I set out some goals for this year. And then I do a weekly alignment to check in on those goals.

Chris March [00:24:45]:
Am I living in alignment with each of those goals for 2026?

David Hall [00:24:49]:
Yeah, that's a great practice. So being reflective can sometimes come with being too reflective, maybe, and overthinking. How do we get out of overthinking kind of patterns?

Chris March [00:25:03]:
We live in a time where there's so much information, too much information. And I think naturally, as a leader, we can overanalyze analysis, paranasis paralysis analysis, where we overthink it. And I think it's really important to firstly recognize with key stakeholders what are the decisions we're making. Is it something that I need to own myself or have other conversations with Good leaders? Make clear decisions effectively. So whatever your natural decision process looks like, make sure that you stick to that. Everyone is different, but just making sure that you're deferring the wrong information and you're taking in the right information for you to make an informed decision. Because there's a lot of information out there. Distill it down in what you need and then make a clear decision, which is going to help things move forward.

David Hall [00:26:00]:
Yeah. And definitely there's a lot of information. There's a lot of things to do. As leaders, how can we avoid getting burned out or come back from being burned out?

Chris March [00:26:13]:
This is something I've experienced myself. Prior to the pandemic, I was managing over a hundred people, had 15 direct reports. David.

David Hall [00:26:23]:
Wow.

Chris March [00:26:23]:
And I look back at how I was operating at that point, and I was operating reactively and I was burning myself out trying to give myself too much time to everyone not thinking about myself first and how I wanted to show up. And I just burnt myself out. And I think the biggest lesson that I would say from that is coming back to being structured and understanding where you can be most effective during the day and where your time needs to be spent and you're congruent with that. And aligning yourself with the most important tasks that only you can do, and recognizing that you need the time for yourself to replenish and fill your cup, whatever that looks like. And sometimes burnout. You may not see the signs, but make sure that if you are seeing the signs, to work with it, not against it. And what I mean by that is step aside, make the time for yourself and make sure that you're working effectively with who you show up with every day.

David Hall [00:27:32]:
Yeah, absolutely. So we've definitely talked a lot about being reflective, making strategy, journaling. How do you. How do you find that time to let your introverted mind do Its best work, like how do you structure your week? For that

Chris March [00:27:52]:
it would be not in congruent with myself not to follow the advice that I give to others. So I try to live the best possible way, David, is to live through my calendar. Now I've learned through trial and error, through that phase that I, that I mentioned to, to be structured as much as possible. I'm a very structured person now and I think that really helps me. I only have meetings, as I mentioned earlier, I only have meetings wherever possible before 2pm 2pm I need my time. I structure a lunch hour break. So my lunch hour break, I'm going to step away from my computer, I'm going to go for a walk. I'm going to find something that is going to energize me.

Chris March [00:28:35]:
I'll go to the gym if possible, if I haven't been in the morning. And then I ensure that I structure my day and I set healthy boundaries. I'm not perfect at this. If there's one thing you can take away from it as well is to make sure that you're setting healthy boundaries.

David Hall [00:28:50]:
Okay, what do you mean by that? What is a healthy boundary?

Chris March [00:28:54]:
And how do you say what I mean? Yeah, what I mean by that is an example. This week I had a meeting at 5, 5pm Now I said that's outside of my typical norm that I did, but I did it to help support a client. That meeting went from 5pm to 7pm I was burnt out yesterday from, from that and might do differently with that is that I should have stopped the meeting at, at 6:00pm that would have been a healthy boundary example. But for whatever reason, I decided to let the meeting go. We were in good flow, so I didn't stop it. But if I was being congruent with myself, I would have finished the day stronger and I wouldn't have felt burnt out the following day. So it's recognizing when you need to set healthy boundaries. And if you don't set a boundary for yourself, no one else is going to do it, David.

Chris March [00:29:42]:
So check those gates at all costs. As an introvert.

David Hall [00:29:46]:
Yeah, that's funny. I'm not always the best at setting boundaries either. But I had a request for a meeting about the same day of the week in time. And, and I was thinking I could help this person out. But then I thought, you know what, I'm going to be better if I say, hey, let's do this next week kind of thing at a better time. So yeah, you just have to figure out what works for you. You know, we need a healthy balance between our alone time and people time. We love people, we love our family and friends and we love to collaborate, but we need some time alone too.

Chris March [00:30:18]:
Yeah, I completely agree. Following this, it's my Saturday morning. I'm going to go in and have at my time and, and relax after this conversation, for example.

David Hall [00:30:28]:
Yeah, same here. Is there any really big lessons you've learned working with executive leaders?

Chris March [00:30:34]:
There's been, there's been many throughout it. I think when you. The biggest thing that I'm always learning is, is that is the prioritization of off time and execution. Is that the best operators that I see are ruthless with their time. Ruthless that are absolutely ruthless and do only the things that they can do. Those are the ones that are operating at the largest scale. I chat with an executive a couple of weeks ago who hasn't read an email in months because he hasn't. He doesn't have time for emails.

Chris March [00:31:16]:
He has put the structure and the systems in place where he doesn't need to check emails. Anything outside of that. And that may make people feel apprehensive because naturally. Right. We jump into emails. That's the first thing you do. I did it this morning. Right.

Chris March [00:31:34]:
You do it because you get a quick dopamine, you reply, you get a win. That is responding to someone else's to do list. So these are the things that I'm learning through, through working with executives and why I love the work that I do is that I'm also learning throughout the process and embedding these into my own life.

David Hall [00:31:51]:
Yeah. So good advice there. Yeah. And I feel a little, Yeah, I sort of feel a little apprehensive. When you're saying he didn't respond to emails, I'm like, how's that possible?

Chris March [00:32:02]:
First thing you do is how, how, how it's. You've got systems in place at scale to allow.

David Hall [00:32:10]:
Yeah, for sure. Chris, this has been a wonderful conversation about leadership, giving us lots of great tips and strategies. Is there anything else you want to add today?

Chris March [00:32:19]:
Thank you for the conversation. Glad to be talking about a topic that I feel I haven't talked about in such a long time. I think it's an important topic and I love the message you, you're sending out and talking about this more. I don't see a lot of people talking about this, so I just wanted to commend you on, on that, David, and feel comfortable to come into this space. And for anyone who's questioning their introversion, I would say lean into it, really understand the superpower that you have and what you do really well is what you do really well. So don't be afraid if you feel you should be an extrovert when you're an introvert. Be proud of who you are and make sure you're leveraging in.

David Hall [00:33:01]:
Yeah, well said. Superpower is a great word.

Chris March [00:33:03]:
Exactly.

David Hall [00:33:04]:
Chris, where can people find out more about you and the great work that you do? Two ways.

Chris March [00:33:08]:
Firstly, you can reach me via my website a little bit more about my services and the work that I do with executives and executive coaching teams or Chris March coaching. And secondly, you can reach me on LinkedIn where I'm sharing consistent content around the leadership landscape, decision making, founder, gravity, all the good stuff that I love talking about. Feel free to connect with me there or send me a dm. Always up for a conversation. Understand what you're up to.

David Hall [00:33:39]:
All right. Thanks again Chris.

Chris March [00:33:41]:
Thanks for having me.

David Hall [00:33:41]:
David, thank you so much for joining me. I appreciate you. I hope you take the time to explore other episodes and learn from other amazing guests. Remember, if you're interested in getting to know yourself better, there is now a free type finder personality assessment on the Quiet and Strong website.

David Hall [00:33:58]:
This free assessment will give you a

David Hall [00:33:59]:
brief report including the four letter Myers Briggs Code. I'll add a link in the show notes and I'd love to connect with you. Reach out to daviduyanstrong.com or check out the quietandstrong.com website which includes blog posts and links to social media for Quiet and strong and much more. Send me topics or guests you would like to see on the show.

David Hall [00:34:22]:
So many great things about being an

David Hall [00:34:23]:
introvert and so we need those to be understood. Get to know your introverted strengths and needs and be strong.