Breaking the Mold: Triumphs of a Greek Artist in Hollywood
Jan 24, 2024Season 6Episode 2
Alexia Melocchi
Have you ever wondered what it's like to forge a career in Hollywood's glittering but daunting landscape, especially as an international actor? Join me, Alexia Melocchi, for a compelling conversation with Greek sensation Christos Vasilopoulos, who peels back the curtain on his Hollywood journey. From the bustling streets of Greece to the star-studded pavements of Los Angeles, Christos's story is a masterclass in determination and adaptability. We tackle the crucial aspects of accent neutralization and the complex decision-making involved in transcending typecast roles, providing a blueprint for international actors aiming to make their mark.
It's more than just lights, camera, and action—our discussion digs into the emotional trenches of an actor's life in LA, where rejection is a frequent co-star and resilience is your most trusted ally. Christos candidly shares the battles with ego, the significance of industry knowledge, and the importance of embracing one's ethnic identity in a world often skewed toward stereotyping. His anecdotes serve as a reminder of the unpredictable nature of auditions, the industry's evolving inclusivity, and how being true to oneself can lead to unexpected opportunities.
But what happens when the camera stops rolling? Together we set to explore the balance between life's passions and the pursuit of artistic dreams. We unravel how personal growth, mentorship, and community play pivotal roles in navigating the ups and downs of a creative career. Christos also introduces his educational course dedicated to guiding international actors through Hollywood's labyrinth of expectations and opportunities. Whether you're an aspiring actor or a creative soul seeking insight, this episode is a treasure!
Have you ever wondered what it's like to forge a career in Hollywood's glittering but daunting landscape, especially as an international actor? Join me, Alexia Melocchi, for a compelling conversation with Greek sensation Christos Vasilopoulos, who peels back the curtain on his Hollywood journey. From the bustling streets of Greece to the star-studded pavements of Los Angeles, Christos's story is a masterclass in determination and adaptability. We tackle the crucial aspects of accent neutralization and the complex decision-making involved in transcending typecast roles, providing a blueprint for international actors aiming to make their mark.
It's more than just lights, camera, and action—our discussion digs into the emotional trenches of an actor's life in LA, where rejection is a frequent co-star and resilience is your most trusted ally. Christos candidly shares the battles with ego, the significance of industry knowledge, and the importance of embracing one's ethnic identity in a world often skewed toward stereotyping. His anecdotes serve as a reminder of the unpredictable nature of auditions, the industry's evolving inclusivity, and how being true to oneself can lead to unexpected opportunities.
But what happens when the camera stops rolling? Together we set to explore the balance between life's passions and the pursuit of artistic dreams. We unravel how personal growth, mentorship, and community play pivotal roles in navigating the ups and downs of a creative career. Christos also introduces his educational course dedicated to guiding international actors through Hollywood's labyrinth of expectations and opportunities. Whether you're an aspiring actor or a creative soul seeking insight, this episode is a treasure!
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Speaker 1:
Welcome to the Heart of Show business. I am your host, alexia Melochi. I believe in great storytelling and that every successful artist has a deep desire to express something from the heart, to create a ripple effect in our society. Emotion and entertainment are closely tied together. My guests and I want to give you insider access to how the film, television and music industry works. We will cover Dreams Come True. The Road Lies, travel, journey, beginnings and a lot of insight and inspiration in between. I am a successful film and television entrepreneur who came to America as a teenager to pursue my show business dreams. Are you ready for some unfiltered real talk with entertainment visionaries from all over the world? Then let's roll sound and action. Hey, everyone, welcome to the Heart of Show business.
Speaker 1:
This very special episode is with actor Christos Vassilopoulos. He hails from Greece and came here determined to succeed and in Hollywood, as an actor thespian, as we call it, and he has been on top shows like the Banshees, like Lost Ship. He continuously works and has created a course for actors, especially international actors, to allow them to learn the ins and outs of moving from another country into La La Land and what you need in order to succeed. You will hear about the process of auditioning and networking, also a little bit about personal growth and how his acting career can be an example for international actors on having success in Hollywood and beyond. Well, hello, hello to everyone. Happy, happy new year. I know it's probably the year has already started. We're in 2024.
Speaker 1:
And I have with me a very, very special guest. I, of course, talked about him a little bit on my intro as far as his credits and what he's done, but what I love, beyond the fact that I consider him a friend, is I love bringing on international actors who've actually succeeded in Hollywood, because there's very few people. There is obviously the big, big stars that everybody knows about, but then there's a lot of great working actors out there that consistently deliver great work and they need to tell you about their journey. They need to talk about what it's like and maybe also give you some information and tidbits of things that you could use for whatever it is you're doing, whether it's, you know, it'll have to be an actor. You could be a filmmaker or a screenwriter, it doesn't really matter. So, without much ado, I'm welcoming to the heart of show business somebody who is a big Greek heart, who is Christos Vasilopoulos. Welcome.
Speaker 2:
Hello Alex, Happy new year.
Speaker 1:
Oh, happy new year to you. It's so lovely to see you. I feel like it was yesterday, last time we met at the Soho House, and then I realized probably, I think you were going to do a movie with Antonio Banderas or something you were leaving something.
Speaker 2:
Yes, I was flying to Greece, to the Saloniki, to film for a movie with Antonio Banderas and you know we had a little chat and then I left to go and work and go and sit in the booth with this amazing man, amazing actor. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
Wow, so that must have been like a year ago, right, or nine months ago.
Speaker 2:
It was actually a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1:
Oh, my God See see people.
Speaker 1:
Okay, it's just times is a blurb since the stupid COVID. But you know, what I love about you is that, first of all, you speak perfect English, and which it helps to have a career on Hollywood. It doesn't really matter, because you've seen the Penelope Cruz and the Salma Hayek's, whatever, who still have a heavy accent. But what to me is very interesting? So I had on my show a few, I think, probably a year ago, gilles Maghini, who, as you know, is a French actor and has had quite a career here. But, unlike you, he came to the United States hardly speaking any English at all. You came here, I think, or I believe, already speaking English and already also being a well known actor in your own country, being Greece.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, I had already worked for 14 years at the theater and movies and TV and at the age of 31, I decided to make the transition to LA and I did speak good English, but not at this level that I am right now and I'd say that I still have a long way to go. I believe that too, but it's all a matter of hard work. You know strategy. Where do you want to go? Do you want to stay in that zone of the foreign actors and always play the Greek guy or similar Mediterranean that has a thick accent, or do you want to be more neutralized American standard urban accent from the city that could? You could be from New York, you could be from LA. You know you want to be more variety on your additions, because this is the, this is the catch. When you come to LA and you do have an accent Most of the times you're going to go for that 3040% of the roles out there maybe 50 nowadays, because we have a lot of diversity. I'd say you're losing the other 50 without you know, because you're always going to be playing the foreigner. So, if you want to practice that, down the line, because it's hard work and you know it takes a lot of time and money, as you will know, because deduction accent courses are pretty, pretty expensive. But then you can have on your roster of auditions more roles because you can be playing that guy from the city. You know what I mean. So you're investing.
Speaker 2:
So I had to make a choice. As a foreign actor do I want to stay in that zone. I'm going to be in that zone for five, 10 years. Good, but still I'm not going to be playing for forever. Probably you know what I mean. So I think it's mostly a move, it's a strategy. Some people say you know, like, like some people made a name like Penelope Cruz. She definitely needs not to. You know she wants. Her accent is great. She's like you always think about her the way she is. That's why she's amazing.
Speaker 1:
But I love what you said about the investing in yourself, because one of the biggest mistakes that I've seen international actors do, especially the ones who are famous in the country but not quite known in the US, is and I've seen that happen with the Greeks, I think personal against the Greeks or the Italians or the Spaniards, you know, because you speak five languages, like I do. But many of them they assume oh, I am famous in Greece, I'm famous in Italy, I'm going to come to LA and I'm going to get signed by the biggest agency in the world and I'm going to go after the leading roles because I am this big celebrity in my country. And then they end up being waiters at the restaurants and they don't even know. They get upset that they have to audition. Like what are you saying to those people? Because obviously you had to go through that or maybe you didn't, maybe you were smarter and you were humbler.
Speaker 2:
I did, I did. I worked as a door guy. You know I worked at restaurants, as it like as a bouncer. You know I worked. It's a lifestyle, you know it's, I feel it's more of a state of mind and it's more like an ego thing. So LA will definitely challenge you, it will definitely take you to the limit, it will drain you, it will lift you up. Sometimes, when you book, you know, when you work in your own set and you're like, oh my God, I'm working on this set and this set is like a $40 million set and you do action scenes and you do this and do so. It's a tough ride and it's an ultra marathon. It's not even a marathon. It's an ultra marathon. It's like a 100 mile marathon that you gotta keep going on and on and on, because, of course, nobody likes to be out of his comfort zone. And welcome to LA. This is the land of the comfort zone, right? Yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 1:
It is nobody knows you here, nobody gives a shit.
Speaker 2:
Nobody really cares if you're number one in your country, if you've worked for 15 years in the National Theater of Greece or you this and that great, it's a great thing to have as an experience. But guess what? You're gonna be in a room with a person that came from a different state of America and has done six months of acting at a studio and he's gonna book the job and you're not. So you know it's. How prepared are you to face that? How prepared is your ego to go from hey, you've been booking jobs for the last five, 10 years and you're making money, to hey, I haven't booked a job for six months and guess what, I'm running out of money and guess what? People don't know me here and nobody treats me like the way they treat me in my. You know all that stuff. So are you really ready for this? Are you willing to what? Are you willing to sacrifice?
Speaker 2:
These are all things that I talk about on my online guide for international actors and the psychology behind coming to LA and making the step to come to LA. You gotta be really, really, really gotta be really prepared. Or you know when you're done? Like, if you have a three month visa, great, get whatever you're gonna get for three months. And then think about it. Go back, think about it, make a plan, come back better. Or just say, hey, this is not for me and I'm gonna keep doing what. That's how I came to LA. I gave myself six months, so I had six months to figure it out, and then suddenly the six months became two years, and the two years became four and we're now in 14.
Speaker 1:
Wow. Well, you know it's also interesting because that's the information that you offer in your online course. I think it is so vital because you know you're using a different word when you are working overseas. Obviously, you're not supposed to know 150 casting directors. You usually book jobs because you know this theater producer, theater director. It's very relationship driven. It's not like a cattle call. But when you come here and then you get called to audition, you better know who your casting directors are. You better know and get familiar with the shows that you're going for, cause you might just go. Hey, I'm just here, right.
Speaker 2:
Absolutely, and that's a great tip. Thank you for seeing this because you know you might be asked and you might be. You know the casting director might ask you something and you might have a little 40 second chat and you have a chance to connect. So the more you know and the more prepared you are about who you're going to meet, what this person done, what is the vibe, what is the tone, you know, I auditioned for a casting director of pop fiction, gary Zerkerberg and Gary Zerkerberg, and the first time I auditioned for him, he liked what I did, but he didn't book me.
Speaker 2:
And he didn't book me only because he knew what was coming on the show, so he didn't wanna sacrifice me for one episode. And he brought me back and I booked a character that I was for six episodes but I had the right, I knew who he was. I'm like this guy's, like, oh man, this guy's big, I gotta nail it, I gotta go well, prepared, done my work, homework. I think I also be ready that, hey, this night might not be the one for me. Onto the next one, let's go onto the next one, onto the next one. There's no like.
Speaker 2:
Oh my God, actors are so dramatic, we're so dramatic. It's all about drama. Oh my God, the phone didn't ring. They say Friday. There's so many million things happening in the production that they don't understand. Production just went 10 days later and there's a problem they need to solve they haven't booked the other actors. There's so many things that you cannot control and you don't understand. But you need to know and have that knowledge because it's gonna make you be so relieved and like see the addition as another pool and another part of your journey and another chance to show what you can do.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, and you're so right, because you could be going for an audition and they're asking for somebody that looks like you. And then midway they said you know what? We're gonna make this character Asian. What are you gonna do? And then it changes Exactly Don't get it. Because they decided they wanna be even more inclusive and they wanna add an Asian. I mean, how many times you see now in series, even in Europe which sometimes I laugh because it's a little bit over the top where you're going and seeing every single ethnicity, like you're in Greece, and then you're gonna see somebody like who looks Nigerian no racist reference here but or who looks you know it's like did we have that in like ancient? Sometimes you wonder, you know when the language is crazy. But again, not trying to be politically incorrect, but I'm just saying sometimes it goes a little over the top and an actor can get, or actress can get, disappointed when that happens, of course, of course, of course.
Speaker 2:
Oh my God.
Speaker 1:
Well, now you're from Greece and obviously God, we all know the land of the Greek gods, so it's an acting of course exactly.
Speaker 2:
We're thestians.
Speaker 1:
Thespians and you come from theater, which is great, because, again, people who do theater that's why the Brits also do very, very well in Hollywood is because they're very rooted in the work of the Shakespeare's and stuff like that, and just as you are rooted in the work of all the Greek theater greats, where you finding yourself. Obviously, you're easy to the eyes. All you have to do is look at it. Youtube people For those that are listening, just look up at his photos. He's easy on the eye. Let's put it this way Do you ever find yourself being stereotypically casted Because, oh, he's Greek. He's very good looking. We need a Greek God type of person. Let's cast him based on that and not on your ability. Does that piss you off or do you think this is a gift? Let me just run with it.
Speaker 2:
It's a good question. I'm going to tell you that I mostly book the bad guys, not the handsome guys. I don't know the devilishly handsome one right.
Speaker 2:
I mean, I've played so many Russian, Ukrainian mobsters, the bad guys. It's always something. You know that. But I feel whatever we have and we can use it to our benefit and it's great If I get casted for the next five, 10 years as the main number one bad guy in Hollywood, so be it. I'm going to go with a ride and I'm going to be loving it. You know it's also in your hands to switch whatever your route and your journey you want it to be. You know We've seen like big, great transformations, great, crazy transitions. Matthew McConaughey is like playing all those like funny movies, like round coms, and suddenly you seem like Oscar winning, like he's like, wow, what did he do? Like what a transformation, what an actor. You know it happens. It's up to you. It's. I think it's your choice. If it happens for me, I'm going with a ride, you're going with a ride and you know what.
Speaker 1:
It comes back full circle to what you just said about when you're sitting in the room with casting directors. I think in this business, more than ever, it's about learning to become memorable, and when you are memorable, that means that you're making a connection with someone, whether it's a casting director, whether it's somebody sitting in the audience, which is why certain people get actor. You know the actors, even like the Matthew McConaughey's. They are no longer judged because of their looks, but because they created a memorable character or a memorable moment in a movie.
Speaker 1:
So what I would say to everyone, no matter what it is and I'm sure you also teach that in your online course is find a way to become memorable for someone, and then the door will open up. Maybe sooner, maybe later, but it will open up eventually, right?
Speaker 2:
True, it's true, yeah, I believe so. There's something about people remembering you. When you get in the room and they go like this guy, oh, he's got something. Maybe he's not right for this, but we remember him and they bring him back. You know, that's part of the game.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, I think it's part. You have to have talent, but you also have to bring the energy in the room, and so important right.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, there's so many things that you, you know, it depends. Is it a movie or is it a TV show? Is it going to be a quick addition? Is it a guest star? Is it then what kind of vibe has the show? And also, nowadays, most of the additions are, you know, via self-tape. So you don't you meet some casting directors. There are some like a lot of callbacks that are Zoom callbacks or in the room, but, yeah, most of the additions are nowadays, are self-tapes. So you have the time, you have the chance to you know there's nobody there you don't have like, because a lot of people you can do a do-over, which is awesome, right.
Speaker 1:
So much nicer.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, I mean for sure. I mean we're talking about fasting now. It's the process. You know you need to have the like you said, you need to have the energy, you need to have, you need to be present, you need to know what you're talking about, the scene, and you need to be also ready to whatever is gonna happen there. Or when you send the audition, you just send it in, forget about it.
Speaker 1:
Exactly so. Do you teach in your course as well, because I would think that it's also vital. I've taken a quick look at your modules, but do you also teach, like you said, what it's like to actually work on an American movie set or TV show, which is obviously a whole different experience of whatever it's one doing in another country, not to say that you are acting with sheep and stuff in Greece. Of course, there's amazing DPs and amazing crews, but the scope of working in, say, an American production, whether it's a studio movie or a big TV series, can be frightening to an actor who's coming from another country. Are there any tips that you can give to someone as to how to know how to navigate that world, as they were?
Speaker 2:
Absolutely. I mean the way I have structured my guide for the international actors. I give them all the hints and tips, I give them material, I give them scenes, I give them backstage of me working with stunt guys. I give them scenes from most of the shows that I've done, so they can. And I tell them how I started and I started by playing most of the villains and then I could see that I was good at the Russian guys and then the auditions would come and they required me to speak more Russian. So I started taking classes. So it was a whole strategy. So I'm talking about all this stuff in my course and I urge every actor to find his niche. Yes, Whatever you're good at, you have to focus on that.
Speaker 2:
I was very lucky. So I set as an example my career here. So I was very lucky because from my first indie movie that I booked it was an independent movie shot in Kansas and I didn't get paid. I got a deferred payment. The movie was never sold, but I was very lucky because the footage I got the footage and the footage was seen by a very big Emmy Award director that invited me to a casting and I booked my first TV show.
Speaker 2:
So that's for me a sign that says, okay, if you have to choose, for example, I could have said, no, I'm working a lot in Greece, this is my first movie, I wanna get paid. If I don't get paid, I'm not gonna do it. So I could have said this and I would have lost the independent movie and the footage that I would never have gotten. So that was a perfect example of what do you choose, what are your choices? You can say, hey, I'm an established actor in Estonia and I don't do deferred payments. Or you can say, fuck, this is my first American movie. It's an independent movie. Great, I'm gonna go ahead and film it. Who cares about money right now? I'm gonna have some footage. Great, you know.
Speaker 1:
I love that. That is such a great attitude and, as I would say, that's almost like it came to me as an Instagram quote, which is every step is a stepping stone. Think about that.
Speaker 2:
Exactly exactly. It's such a cliche, but it's such. So true and so true, so true.
Speaker 1:
So true. So of course we have a journey. Anybody, she or he or it wants to come to America and make it. You know it's a marathon, it's not a sprint. My question to you is I'm sorry, it could be a sprint.
Speaker 2:
It could be a sprint if you look at it like, okay, you know what I'm good in my country, but I wanna come and get a little taste of it and come back. It could be like that kind of a still. Whatever you're gonna get in this La La Land, for as long as you say it's gonna be so useful and it's gonna be so evolving to whatever you're gonna be a good actor, a good mother, a good girlfriend, a good father, whatever you're gonna be.
Speaker 1:
That's very true. I'm sorry for interrupting you. Oh, no, no, I love that. No, please. I love this wisdom impromptu nuggets, you know which brings me to moments of darkness. Have you ever had a moment where you, christo, said, if at all, I'm gonna go back to Greece, or I'm gonna quit acting, or this is BS? Was there a moment that you experienced that and, if so, what is the thing that got you out of it? Where, like? Was it a mission or why something?
Speaker 2:
There were moments that I thought something was happening and I was booking, and then I was booking and then suddenly I wasn't and I'm like why am I going to the next step? Why am I stuck in the same, you know, and I was frustrated. But I feel that the trick is to shift your energy to do something different from acting. Not everything has to evolve around acting. Life is bigger than art. For me, things are happening in life that we'll never seen the movies and I feel you know, the more we're into this journey of life, the better artists we become and we are, because we have fuel to put in our artists' machines to create to. We have pictures, we have sounds, we have journeys, we have experiences.
Speaker 2:
So whenever we're stuck in a situation that is like I'm pushing and I'm pushing and I'm pushing and I'm pushing, okay, great, stop pushing. Look at it the other direction, do something else. Play soccer. I don't know people have. I do Brazilian jiu-jitsu, I like sports. You know I have my son, you know I wear different hats. So just take a moment, breathe, shift your energy and it'll come back.
Speaker 1:
That is such wonderful piece of advice. Sometimes I do that myself. Where I go produce, produce, there's this movie, there's this project, you gotta do this. And then I go. No, can I go write a book? Can I do a podcast with Christos? Can I take a break and just get off my routine and do something that gives me joy and gives me pleasure? And I think what you mentioned is all things that give you joy and pleasure. Right, do your martial arts. Being with your son, it's something that puts you in the present right.
Speaker 2:
Exactly, cookie. You know we've missed, we're missing connection and we're also missing the process. You know we're missing the process. That's why, for example, I love the martial arts, because you can't become a black belt. You know, even if you work in six months, you know you gotta pass a certain time. You know ballet are the same Ballet like, no matter how good you are, you need to pass. You need the process, you need to learn, you need to practice it again and again. It doesn't really matter how hard you're gonna work At early age. You need to go through the process. We might go earlier, but you will go, you know.
Speaker 1:
So we're missing that yeah we are, we are, and I think that's something that people are always rushing Again. Like you said, it could be happening overnight if it's the right time, the right place, the right circumstances. But if you love something, it's like somebody wakes up and says I want to be a doctor. Well, you have to go to medical school, you have to do your residency. You're not going to go and operate on someone without the thing, and I and I love that.
Speaker 1:
I've had quite a few actors and actresses who've been especially from Italy, who have met that they come here and they're doing exactly what you said. They come here for three months and they see if they like it, but so many of them don't even know what. What SAG does, what is the casting director? What are the breakdowns like? Like how to get a visa, and I love that you are, you're breaking it down for everyone. And just when we spoke about this offline before we I pushed the court is that when you get to a point of your career, you're going to continue doing what you love. But it's also why not pass the knowledge? We are the wise ones, so why not give the knowledge of how we did it right?
Speaker 2:
Listen, while I was doing this online guide, I was in class with a Vana Chabak, getting my certification as a teacher to teach her to. So I'm also a student in something else, you know. But it's a never ending journey. If, if you're into this, you're just like and you're really into this, it's, this is how it goes. You never say, oh, my God, I'm gonna pay like 250 bucks Well, guess what. It's an investment? Well, guess what. This is not. It's never ending. You're always going to be paying for your art and you're going to be getting back things, or you're not, and then you're going to be moving on and that's how you see what you like with your series. But if you don't try, if you don't get things, it's not gonna. Nobody will open up your head and put it inside.
Speaker 1:
Nope. And you also, if you're lucky enough to get a part in a series and in a show, in a movie who knows who you're acting up with or against? You may be sitting in the room like we talked Antonio Banderas, you could be with Corsese, and then you're going to learn from them almost naturally by being on the scene With them and exchange that energy and say, wow, they really made it. And that's such a beautiful process for me. I mean, I learn even with my guests, sometimes when I bring them on. You know, I was.
Speaker 1:
I had a couple of you know who came and we're talking about screenwriting, and then he was giving great tips like, oh my God, this is amazing and I'm not a writer, but I said, my writers are going to love it. You know my actors. You want to know for filmmakers out there. If you know how to get in the psychology of an actor and you work with true professionals like Christos here, then he makes the process so much more enjoyable. Was stuck with one another in a movie, was stuck with one another on a show.
Speaker 1:
It's a mystery, and so there's so much to keep learning and evolving, whether we're paying for it or we're getting paid, or yeah, I mean it takes, you know it takes two to tango.
Speaker 2:
it's an ensemble, you know, it's just like a learning process of a lot of people and or two, or more than one. So I, I totally agree, you know, it's just depends on what do you want to do? And hey, listen, every, every story is unique and every individual is unique. But I feel if you're doing the basics and you're like you know how to do this, you know how to do this, you know how to communicate yourself, you know how to do yourself tapes as a pro, you know what you're expecting, then you know it makes the game a lot easier and more fun because you're not in the darkness. I've learned all those things that I'm talking about on my guide In 14 years and the most of the things I started learning after five, six years and to 14 year till I create the guide. So, and I've learned it through experience because I went to the castings or I that happened to me, like the story I told you about.
Speaker 2:
you know the last ship we talked about, or Banshee, or you know, every, every actor has a story, but I feel I believe in the basics and and I believe in an investment to ourselves.
Speaker 1:
Oh, yeah, I believe in that too. I think it's a combination of which is what my podcast is about. It's about creativity, mindset and business, because you have to have all three. You can just have one and not look at the other two elements of it, and it feels to me that what you're teaching is very much in line with what I'm doing through my podcast and my book and the other stuff. We're both passing on the baton, but we're still rocking what we do, and being slaying our own careers, but we're passing the baton.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, yeah, I mean so there's. So, like I, yeah, we were talking about the same things. You know, it's also the marketing for actors mostly. How do you get yourself out there, how do you communicate with, how do you find agents, how do you find, manage, how do you approach them in a way that you're not oh my god, block this, I'm not going to be an agent manager is because we don't think they think something's going to happen and it doesn't. So you got to have like a right approach to it, you know exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1:
Oh, I love that there's the am in team, so it's also you have to put in your with the teamwork. And also, that was such a good conversation, christos. I am gonna I'm gonna leave us with much to think about, a much Googling on who Chris Vasileopoulos is and he's online course and all the other fun stuff that he's doing. I'm going to let the readers and readers actually listeners and, yeah, sometimes there are also readers because there is books rolling out but let them find out more about you. This has been an amazing conversation. I'm going to wrap it up by. You know, I've already warned you by asking you to choose whether you want to give me one of your own life mind, trust and mom and dad taught you, or whatever life philosophy, maybe a Greek philosopher like socrates or Pluto or something or maybe you want to define yourself in three words. Take a pic. Take a pic of the litter.
Speaker 2:
Um, cool. Well, here's one that I strongly believe Create your own content. The second one is a tattoo I have on my feet and it's a Latin quote Lovers are lunatics. You'll always be a lover of something or someone or a situation of, because you have that crazy power of the artist. I think that's it. I don't think I'm. You know. I want to say more and open my head.
Speaker 1:
The tattoo says it all. I think that that's a little bit of who you are in a good way. You're not a bad lunatic, you're a good lunatic.
Speaker 2:
So yes, in a good way in a good way in a creative, fun way that has love and you know only good things and positive vibes. Nothing good about, because I know the lunatic is a little weird word in English.
Speaker 1:
But it's not where we come from, because you know we say, oh, it's almost the only three, lee were all crazy and it's almost like a compliment. So it is crazy, let's be crazy. Thank you so much for coming on my show, chris, and. I wish you luck on your course and, of course, in your Greek Greek theater production, and I can't wait to hear all about it when you get back and thank you so much for having me, alexia.
Speaker 2:
Thank you, that was really really fun and I feel grateful and blessed that you have me here. Thank you.
Speaker 1:
Oh, thank you, Easy breezy, and if you enjoyed this episode, please do subscribe. Rate review. You want to know more about Christos? Follow him on your social, drop in in the show notes, his website and, of course, of course, follow his career. If you'd like to say something good about me, I'm not going to spitty on it.
Speaker 2:
Thank you very much you can do something nice about me as well.
Speaker 2:
I'm not just my guest and everyone talk about you and your great shows and your great talks. It's, it's amazing. First of all, thank you that you share the knowledge and you share whatever you have in your beautiful mind, because I think we talked about it. We live in days that it's nice to share what we have, especially when we can help, and we don't live in those moments back like 30, 40 years that everybody was like 20 years, that they were like fighting stuff and they didn't want to say to you and you had to figure it out, and there was so much. No, there's room for everybody and you, you create that and you teach that. So thank you, alexia.
Speaker 1:
I have to push stop recording. It was amazing.
Speaker 1:
I'm not going to push. He has to come to me now. So thank you very much for that. I could use that and I take that with and accept that with ease and grace. And to everyone out there wanting to be an artist, keep at it, because we are the storytellers and it was done since the ancient times. Everybody loves to tell stories and to participate in stories and I think if you're an artist, you have a great opportunity to do so. So, whatever it is, don't ever give up and go after your dream and over and out. This is Alexia, the heart of show business. Thank you for listening to this week's episode of the heart of show business. If you enjoyed it, please share it with a friend. You can also subscribe, rate and review the show on your favorite podcast player. If you have any questions or comments or feedback for us, you can reach me directly at the heart of showbusinesscom.